0 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:15,000 1 00:00:15,942 --> 00:00:20,942 2 00:00:22,430 --> 00:00:25,428 Mr. Beaton, you've been described at various times 3 00:00:25,430 --> 00:00:28,295 as an author, a designer, a dandy... 4 00:00:28,297 --> 00:00:30,794 you may not report yourself a dandy, but other people have... 5 00:00:30,796 --> 00:00:32,162 a painter, a photographer. 6 00:00:32,164 --> 00:00:34,895 Now, which of these is your main profession? 7 00:00:34,897 --> 00:00:36,527 I wish I knew. 8 00:00:36,529 --> 00:00:37,694 I'm afraid that's been my trouble 9 00:00:37,696 --> 00:00:39,661 for a very long time. 10 00:00:41,296 --> 00:00:42,461 The visual, really, 11 00:00:42,463 --> 00:00:44,894 guides my life more than anything. 12 00:00:58,662 --> 00:01:02,328 "There is scarcely a flattering self-portrait." 13 00:01:04,629 --> 00:01:08,727 "Yet truth begins with one's self." 14 00:01:16,729 --> 00:01:19,760 "Of all the forms of writing, 15 00:01:19,762 --> 00:01:22,228 diaries are the most personal." 16 00:01:27,829 --> 00:01:31,694 "My obsession stems from those same obscure motives 17 00:01:31,696 --> 00:01:33,827 that have impelled me to take snapshots 18 00:01:33,829 --> 00:01:35,162 all my life." 19 00:01:40,696 --> 00:01:44,761 "I exposed thousands of rolls of films, 20 00:01:44,763 --> 00:01:48,327 wrote hundreds of thousands of words, 21 00:01:48,329 --> 00:01:52,593 in a futile attempt to preserve the fleeting moment." 22 00:01:54,329 --> 00:01:57,761 "Some people seem to know their vocation instinctively 23 00:01:57,763 --> 00:02:01,628 and follow a single path their whole lives. 24 00:02:01,630 --> 00:02:04,560 Others wander in the labyrinth of choice." 25 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:12,461 "I started out with very little talent, 26 00:02:12,463 --> 00:02:15,828 but I was so tormented with ambition." 27 00:02:18,297 --> 00:02:20,894 "Once you've started for the end of the rainbow, 28 00:02:20,896 --> 00:02:23,528 you can't very well turn back." 29 00:02:28,429 --> 00:02:31,194 It's interesting looking through his career 30 00:02:31,196 --> 00:02:36,426 to break it up into categories, genres. 31 00:02:36,428 --> 00:02:38,793 The fashion work, the portraiture, 32 00:02:38,795 --> 00:02:40,660 the film and theater work. 33 00:02:42,463 --> 00:02:46,560 But, in fact, they meld into one. 34 00:02:46,562 --> 00:02:49,794 It's always Beaton's look, Beaton's touch. 35 00:02:53,829 --> 00:02:59,827 He just gave over his life to expressing beauty, 36 00:02:59,829 --> 00:03:01,593 however he could do it. 37 00:03:04,297 --> 00:03:07,693 In fact, he was... if he hadn't have done photography, 38 00:03:07,695 --> 00:03:08,894 if he had just done My Fair Lady, 39 00:03:08,896 --> 00:03:10,628 that would have been enough for me. 40 00:03:20,562 --> 00:03:22,761 He's looking very nostalgically to the period 41 00:03:22,763 --> 00:03:25,327 immediately before the First World War, 42 00:03:25,329 --> 00:03:27,761 the High Belle Époque, Edwardian England, 43 00:03:27,763 --> 00:03:31,593 and it's this wild escapism 44 00:03:31,595 --> 00:03:33,195 that is kind of hand in hand 45 00:03:33,197 --> 00:03:37,627 with an extraordinary futurism and modernism. 46 00:03:37,629 --> 00:03:41,461 In fact, Cecil, you could even say invented the Edwardian 47 00:03:41,463 --> 00:03:42,860 and gave it a different look, 48 00:03:42,862 --> 00:03:44,393 'cause he invented it with My Fair Lady 49 00:03:44,395 --> 00:03:46,295 'cause nobody ever looked like that. 50 00:03:46,297 --> 00:03:50,360 I mean, this... it's like, uh, I mean, ever. 51 00:03:55,428 --> 00:03:56,560 Come on. 52 00:03:56,562 --> 00:03:58,461 Come on, Dover. 53 00:03:58,463 --> 00:03:59,464 Come on. 54 00:04:00,830 --> 00:04:02,761 Come on, Dover! 55 00:04:02,763 --> 00:04:04,830 Move your bloomin' arse! 56 00:04:06,396 --> 00:04:09,161 Beaton had this wonderful eye 57 00:04:09,163 --> 00:04:12,162 that could assimilate and draw magic 58 00:04:12,164 --> 00:04:15,427 from the best of everything that happened around him 59 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:17,360 and from the past. 60 00:04:17,362 --> 00:04:21,561 But it's the approach of somebody with this relentless, 61 00:04:21,563 --> 00:04:25,260 restless visual hunger and appetite for beauty. 62 00:04:27,863 --> 00:04:29,693 What is beauty to you? 63 00:04:29,695 --> 00:04:31,861 I think that Francis Bacon said it 64 00:04:31,863 --> 00:04:37,162 when he considered there should be something curious in it. 65 00:04:38,830 --> 00:04:43,326 I think that beauty is only static for so long 66 00:04:43,328 --> 00:04:45,694 and then we move on with our own eyes. 67 00:04:45,696 --> 00:04:50,895 I mean, if you see too much of something too long, 68 00:04:50,897 --> 00:04:54,627 then change your attitude to beauty 69 00:04:54,629 --> 00:04:59,860 and new wonderful vicissitudes of beauty appear. 70 00:05:01,795 --> 00:05:05,693 He had a relationship with the idea of the person, 71 00:05:05,695 --> 00:05:07,727 not actually the person. 72 00:05:09,929 --> 00:05:12,294 There's truth in fantasy, 73 00:05:12,296 --> 00:05:17,861 and I think Beaton was one of the pioneers in that concept. 74 00:05:17,863 --> 00:05:20,461 When you started, it wasn't at all the fashionable, 75 00:05:20,463 --> 00:05:23,528 trendy thing it is today to be a photographer. 76 00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:24,628 Oh, heavens, no. 77 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:26,427 No, a photographer had 78 00:05:26,429 --> 00:05:28,927 a very ambiguous position in society. 79 00:05:28,929 --> 00:05:31,494 He was very much looked down upon. 80 00:05:31,496 --> 00:05:33,194 Not that I really settled 81 00:05:33,196 --> 00:05:34,827 for being a photographer when I started. 82 00:05:34,829 --> 00:05:38,294 I think that that was really a means to an end. 83 00:05:43,229 --> 00:05:45,727 As a boy, I was stage-struck 84 00:05:45,729 --> 00:05:50,326 and I used to haunt the outside of theaters 85 00:05:50,328 --> 00:05:53,561 looking at the photographs of the leading actresses. 86 00:05:55,229 --> 00:05:59,293 And one morning I saw this photograph postcard 87 00:05:59,295 --> 00:06:01,461 of Lily Elsie, 88 00:06:01,463 --> 00:06:04,293 and I thought I'd never seen anything so beautiful. 89 00:06:07,862 --> 00:06:11,761 He took such inspiration from the theater, 90 00:06:11,763 --> 00:06:14,828 from a world into which you step, 91 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:16,627 you suspend disbelief, 92 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:20,426 you give yourself up to whatever is happening on that stage, 93 00:06:20,428 --> 00:06:25,594 and... and you leave in this sort of cloud of delight. 94 00:06:25,596 --> 00:06:29,327 That was the way he determined to live his life. 95 00:06:32,495 --> 00:06:36,426 I used to take photographs of my sisters 96 00:06:36,428 --> 00:06:38,761 and I used to dress my sisters up. 97 00:06:38,763 --> 00:06:41,828 They were very gauche, rather ugly little school girls. 98 00:06:47,862 --> 00:06:49,693 I was entirely self-taught 99 00:06:49,695 --> 00:06:51,827 and I've always been extremely bad 100 00:06:51,829 --> 00:06:55,294 about anything mechanical or technical. 101 00:06:55,296 --> 00:06:58,594 But still I did learn exactly how I wanted 102 00:06:58,596 --> 00:07:02,494 to get the effects that I was aiming at. 103 00:07:02,496 --> 00:07:04,694 When the time came for you to go to school, 104 00:07:04,696 --> 00:07:09,160 was this a relief or did you find it a burden? 105 00:07:09,162 --> 00:07:12,361 Oh, I found it appalling. 106 00:07:12,363 --> 00:07:14,461 At school I really was a dud. 107 00:07:14,463 --> 00:07:16,597 I was a very bad scholar. 108 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:23,493 I'm pretty near uneducated. 109 00:07:23,495 --> 00:07:28,827 I didn't read a book until I was 18, really. 110 00:07:28,829 --> 00:07:30,728 I learned a lot in school, 111 00:07:30,730 --> 00:07:32,794 but nothing to do with the things 112 00:07:32,796 --> 00:07:34,393 that I should have learned. 113 00:07:39,296 --> 00:07:44,226 "In 1922, I arrived at Cambridge. 114 00:07:44,228 --> 00:07:47,493 I set about becoming a rabid aesthete. 115 00:07:47,495 --> 00:07:51,393 I took a passionate interest in the Italian Renaissance, 116 00:07:51,395 --> 00:07:53,727 in Diaghilev's Russian Ballet, 117 00:07:53,729 --> 00:07:57,694 and, of course, in the theater and in photography." 118 00:08:01,363 --> 00:08:03,193 The new doors were opening to me. 119 00:08:03,195 --> 00:08:05,561 This was something that I had never known before, 120 00:08:05,563 --> 00:08:10,160 and I was thrilled by the fact that certain people 121 00:08:10,162 --> 00:08:13,426 would give up their life to aestheticism. 122 00:08:13,428 --> 00:08:15,527 I thought it was lots of fun. 123 00:08:15,529 --> 00:08:18,260 Did you go in for the rather more bizarre extremities 124 00:08:18,262 --> 00:08:21,261 of this style of dressing in fancy clothes and so on? 125 00:08:21,263 --> 00:08:24,693 I think I dressed in a rather peculiar garb, yes. 126 00:08:26,662 --> 00:08:29,828 I wanted to show my individuality. 127 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:31,927 In fact, I'm not so sure 128 00:08:31,929 --> 00:08:34,895 that I didn't rather like shocking people. 129 00:08:39,729 --> 00:08:41,293 Couldn't help it. 130 00:08:41,295 --> 00:08:45,326 I think he couldn't help getting in drag at college. 131 00:08:45,328 --> 00:08:47,194 He couldn't help himself putting on 132 00:08:47,196 --> 00:08:49,193 his mum's nail varnish when he was five years old. 133 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:52,294 He wasn't being provocative and rebellious. 134 00:08:52,296 --> 00:08:54,827 It was in him and it came out. 135 00:08:57,229 --> 00:09:00,528 "During the three years I spent at the university, 136 00:09:00,530 --> 00:09:03,160 I never went to any lectures. 137 00:09:03,162 --> 00:09:06,161 Instead, I formed the theater club, 138 00:09:06,163 --> 00:09:07,694 designed scenery, 139 00:09:07,696 --> 00:09:10,293 and performed in stage productions." 140 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:16,861 He also promoted himself hugely. 141 00:09:16,863 --> 00:09:20,460 He would send up a photograph of himself to newspapers, saying, 142 00:09:20,462 --> 00:09:21,560 "This is Cecil Beaton, 143 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:22,560 he's currently working on the sets 144 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,293 of Pirandello's Henry IV," 145 00:09:24,295 --> 00:09:27,494 and in a sense you could say he's almost the first PR man 146 00:09:27,496 --> 00:09:29,760 because his line was, 147 00:09:29,762 --> 00:09:31,727 "The more people who know about the play, 148 00:09:31,729 --> 00:09:32,861 the more money we can spend," 149 00:09:32,863 --> 00:09:36,160 and the money would be spent in the absolute priority 150 00:09:36,162 --> 00:09:39,694 of sets and costumes by Cecil Beaton, 151 00:09:39,696 --> 00:09:41,527 written by the playwright and starring the actors 152 00:09:41,529 --> 00:09:42,561 in that order. 153 00:09:44,295 --> 00:09:45,761 Running through Beaton's career 154 00:09:45,763 --> 00:09:49,293 principally devoted to photographing others 155 00:09:49,295 --> 00:09:51,560 is an obsession with photographing himself, 156 00:09:51,562 --> 00:09:53,161 staging himself. 157 00:09:53,163 --> 00:09:56,693 Just one of this world of style and elegance 158 00:09:56,695 --> 00:09:59,794 and fantasy that he was creating. 159 00:09:59,796 --> 00:10:03,194 His life was a stage. 160 00:10:03,196 --> 00:10:06,727 "In 1925, I came to the end of my Cambridge years 161 00:10:06,729 --> 00:10:10,294 without a degree, having failed, as usual, 162 00:10:10,296 --> 00:10:13,661 in all my examinations." 163 00:10:13,663 --> 00:10:16,494 Did you feel totally confident and successful 164 00:10:16,496 --> 00:10:17,793 in anything that you had done 165 00:10:17,795 --> 00:10:19,660 or were you still insecure? 166 00:10:19,662 --> 00:10:21,760 Most insecure. 167 00:10:21,762 --> 00:10:24,694 What were your ambitions at that time? 168 00:10:24,696 --> 00:10:28,761 To be able to demonstrate 169 00:10:28,763 --> 00:10:33,694 that I was not just an ordinary anonymous person. 170 00:10:33,696 --> 00:10:38,660 "The truth is, I didn't know what I wanted to do or be. 171 00:10:38,662 --> 00:10:41,226 I should have liked to have been an actor, 172 00:10:41,228 --> 00:10:45,628 but somehow I was diffident or even terrified about this. 173 00:10:45,630 --> 00:10:47,527 I wanted to write plays, 174 00:10:47,529 --> 00:10:50,693 but I could find nothing to write about. 175 00:10:50,695 --> 00:10:53,593 I longed to design for the theater, 176 00:10:53,595 --> 00:10:56,561 but how is one ever to get an offer? 177 00:10:56,563 --> 00:10:59,394 The only thing I could do without being invited 178 00:10:59,396 --> 00:11:01,893 was to indulge my photographic hobby." 179 00:11:13,228 --> 00:11:17,694 "My sisters continued to show compassion to me in my mania." 180 00:11:17,696 --> 00:11:20,561 But it was absolute torture 181 00:11:20,563 --> 00:11:22,160 'cause the more I tried to keep still 182 00:11:22,162 --> 00:11:23,693 the more I twitched. 183 00:11:23,695 --> 00:11:25,326 It was so uncomfortable, I remember, 184 00:11:25,328 --> 00:11:27,294 'cause you would say, "Put your head on one side, 185 00:11:27,296 --> 00:11:29,926 stick your chin in, your stomach out, cross your leg," 186 00:11:29,928 --> 00:11:32,294 I mean, I was like a ruddy corkscrew in the end. 187 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:35,728 He couldn't do much with the father, 188 00:11:35,730 --> 00:11:37,461 but he could do quite a lot with the mother 189 00:11:37,463 --> 00:11:39,628 and the two sisters and he did. 190 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:42,160 He would put notices in if his mother gave a party, 191 00:11:42,162 --> 00:11:43,561 and that would get printed in the paper 192 00:11:43,563 --> 00:11:45,426 and she would be kind of like... 193 00:11:45,428 --> 00:11:46,461 she'd know he'd done it 194 00:11:46,463 --> 00:11:48,260 but get sort of half-irritated 195 00:11:48,262 --> 00:11:50,294 but half probably quite excited. 196 00:11:50,296 --> 00:11:52,660 And he used to dress the two sisters up identically, 197 00:11:52,662 --> 00:11:54,293 and because there were two of them 198 00:11:54,295 --> 00:11:56,160 and they looked quite similar in many ways, 199 00:11:56,162 --> 00:11:59,426 they very often appeared in the society columns. 200 00:11:59,428 --> 00:12:02,461 Cecil was very vain in a certain way 201 00:12:02,463 --> 00:12:04,594 and very, very insecure. 202 00:12:04,596 --> 00:12:08,594 I think the insecurity stems from those early years 203 00:12:08,596 --> 00:12:12,461 of never really feeling that his family was grand enough 204 00:12:12,463 --> 00:12:16,628 or, you know, it's not the kind of family he wanted to be from. 205 00:12:17,462 --> 00:12:19,560 Going right back to your childhood, 206 00:12:19,562 --> 00:12:23,594 you come of a prosperous upper middle class family, 207 00:12:23,596 --> 00:12:26,628 so it seems to me from reading your diaries. 208 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:29,894 You've written very fully about your father. 209 00:12:29,896 --> 00:12:31,760 Now what was it that made it difficult for you 210 00:12:31,762 --> 00:12:34,493 to get on with your father? 211 00:12:34,495 --> 00:12:36,161 Well, I think it was very difficult 212 00:12:36,163 --> 00:12:38,161 for my father to get on with me. 213 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:45,859 "My father insisted on living in Hampstead, 214 00:12:45,861 --> 00:12:48,660 a suburb of London, 215 00:12:48,662 --> 00:12:52,894 as he considered the air healthier for children. 216 00:12:52,896 --> 00:12:55,561 I was born in 1904. 217 00:12:55,563 --> 00:12:57,694 There were two boys, my brother, Reggie, 218 00:12:57,696 --> 00:13:00,594 being a year younger than me. 219 00:13:00,596 --> 00:13:02,661 Five and seven years later, 220 00:13:02,663 --> 00:13:05,859 my two sisters, Nancy and Baba, were born." 221 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:11,594 Until I reached the age of puberty, shall we say, 222 00:13:11,596 --> 00:13:14,792 I had an idyllically happy childhood. 223 00:13:16,663 --> 00:13:19,326 I wasn't conscious until later 224 00:13:19,328 --> 00:13:23,528 that perhaps there wasn't as much money as I would like. 225 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:26,294 My father was a timber merchant, 226 00:13:26,296 --> 00:13:28,528 and he wanted, obviously, 227 00:13:28,530 --> 00:13:31,627 to have somebody who was going to be like him. 228 00:13:31,629 --> 00:13:33,628 And I found that very difficult. 229 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:37,793 Intuitively, I went against many of the things 230 00:13:37,795 --> 00:13:40,627 that he stood for and liked. 231 00:13:42,562 --> 00:13:45,527 "Reggie was my father's favorite son." 232 00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:51,426 "The two understood one another. 233 00:13:51,428 --> 00:13:53,528 They were kindred spirits." 234 00:13:59,328 --> 00:14:02,461 "My mother's dressing table drawer of powder, rouge, 235 00:14:02,463 --> 00:14:06,294 and mascara held an uncanny fascination for me." 236 00:14:09,196 --> 00:14:13,693 "One day, I stole into her bedroom and painted my face." 237 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:18,527 "My father caught sight of me. 238 00:14:18,529 --> 00:14:22,293 He became so enraged that I was locked in my bedroom." 239 00:14:26,262 --> 00:14:27,427 Now, did your mother know 240 00:14:27,429 --> 00:14:28,827 about this feeling of yours at the time? 241 00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:31,427 Did she sympathize with you? 242 00:14:31,429 --> 00:14:35,193 In a vague way, but she was too busy 243 00:14:35,195 --> 00:14:38,426 getting on with the job of looking after a family. 244 00:14:38,428 --> 00:14:39,827 She wasn't able to help you 245 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:41,859 in this particular difficulty anyway. 246 00:14:41,861 --> 00:14:43,860 No, no one could help me. 247 00:14:43,862 --> 00:14:48,294 It was up to me to find the sort of world that I wanted. 248 00:14:48,296 --> 00:14:51,528 I think Cecil certainly wanted to scale the social tree. 249 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:54,894 And he was the first photographer, really, 250 00:14:54,896 --> 00:14:57,560 to establish himself in the world 251 00:14:57,562 --> 00:14:59,659 of what would be called Fashionable Society 252 00:14:59,661 --> 00:15:01,826 with a capital S, it doesn't exist anymore, 253 00:15:01,828 --> 00:15:03,827 but he wanted to be up there. 254 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:06,293 The camera was, in a way, I suppose, 255 00:15:06,295 --> 00:15:08,427 his passport into that world, 256 00:15:08,429 --> 00:15:10,692 but what you need, eventually, 257 00:15:10,694 --> 00:15:14,160 is a patron, and he found that in Stephen Tennant. 258 00:15:15,694 --> 00:15:17,560 "Stephen Tennant. 259 00:15:17,562 --> 00:15:21,727 I first met this remarkably poetic looking apparition 260 00:15:21,729 --> 00:15:23,826 while he rode the papier-mâché horses 261 00:15:23,828 --> 00:15:27,626 on the roundabouts at the Olympia Circus. 262 00:15:27,628 --> 00:15:29,593 He wore a black leather coat 263 00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:33,561 with a large Elizabethan collar of chinchilla. 264 00:15:33,563 --> 00:15:36,527 As he blew kisses to left and right, 265 00:15:36,529 --> 00:15:39,561 he created an unforgettable sight." 266 00:15:41,428 --> 00:15:43,692 Stephen Tennant was rich, good looking, 267 00:15:43,694 --> 00:15:46,194 bursts of imagination, very successful, 268 00:15:46,196 --> 00:15:48,659 he knew everybody, he was surrounded by a bevy 269 00:15:48,661 --> 00:15:50,560 of Guinness girls and Bright Young Things, 270 00:15:50,562 --> 00:15:53,394 and that's exactly the world that Cecil Beaton wanted. 271 00:15:55,529 --> 00:15:58,528 "I became a member of the Bright Young Things 272 00:15:58,530 --> 00:16:01,394 who did silly things. 273 00:16:01,396 --> 00:16:04,693 Organized treasure hunts, spoof exhibitions, 274 00:16:04,695 --> 00:16:06,494 and dressed up for nights on end 275 00:16:06,496 --> 00:16:08,427 in fancy dress costumes." 276 00:16:10,594 --> 00:16:14,660 "Our activities were all done with zest and originality. 277 00:16:14,662 --> 00:16:16,759 What a rush life had become." 278 00:16:32,262 --> 00:16:33,094 Cecil Beaton, I should think, 279 00:16:33,096 --> 00:16:35,626 probably photographed all of them. 280 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:37,859 Whenever he photographed one, another one would appear. 281 00:16:37,861 --> 00:16:41,360 I mean, they came in relays, really, to Sussex Gardens 282 00:16:41,362 --> 00:16:43,361 to be photographed by Cecil. 283 00:16:46,861 --> 00:16:49,659 All those portraits of Stephen Tennant. 284 00:16:49,661 --> 00:16:52,827 You know, ropes of pearls and looking in a mirror. 285 00:16:52,829 --> 00:16:55,826 I mean, they are terribly narcissistic. 286 00:16:55,828 --> 00:16:59,726 The kind of noir quality to some of those things 287 00:16:59,728 --> 00:17:03,394 that goes back to the decadence of the 1890s 288 00:17:03,396 --> 00:17:06,693 and Oscar Wilde and all that sort of thing. 289 00:17:06,695 --> 00:17:08,827 He wanted to be one of them. 290 00:17:10,694 --> 00:17:12,727 Forgetting the formality and the hierarchy 291 00:17:12,729 --> 00:17:14,427 and the snobbism of the era, 292 00:17:14,429 --> 00:17:18,660 I think just the basic Bright Young Things 293 00:17:18,662 --> 00:17:22,692 and being with them would have been amazing. 294 00:17:22,694 --> 00:17:27,559 Just that youth and that damn elegance. 295 00:17:27,561 --> 00:17:31,427 Part of Beaton's world of the imagination 296 00:17:31,429 --> 00:17:34,226 obviously was the dressing up trunk. 297 00:17:34,228 --> 00:17:37,327 The idea of opening this... this trunk 298 00:17:37,329 --> 00:17:38,893 and pulling out costumes 299 00:17:38,895 --> 00:17:42,326 and becoming different personalities. 300 00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:44,926 They were traveling back in time 301 00:17:44,928 --> 00:17:48,161 and having a glorious time doing it. 302 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:54,693 Well, I would love to have been on the bridge with Rex Whistler 303 00:17:54,695 --> 00:17:58,927 and the Jungman sisters, and, I have to say, 304 00:17:58,929 --> 00:18:02,194 I'd like to insert myself into that picture. 305 00:18:04,562 --> 00:18:06,426 Beaton was essentially an outsider 306 00:18:06,428 --> 00:18:07,660 striving to get in. 307 00:18:08,761 --> 00:18:12,459 Stephen Tennant, of course, was to the manor born, 308 00:18:12,461 --> 00:18:16,792 and Beaton didn't have an inherited income 309 00:18:16,794 --> 00:18:21,760 and, you know, he had to work bloody hard for the money 310 00:18:21,762 --> 00:18:23,261 and to keep it all going. 311 00:18:27,694 --> 00:18:30,659 "I often wonder how it was that none of the beautiful, 312 00:18:30,661 --> 00:18:34,660 eminent, or celebrated personages I photographed 313 00:18:34,662 --> 00:18:38,493 raised an objection to being seen upside down 314 00:18:38,495 --> 00:18:41,261 embowered in flowers, 315 00:18:41,263 --> 00:18:43,726 cellophane clouds, 316 00:18:43,728 --> 00:18:45,394 or almost asphyxiating 317 00:18:45,396 --> 00:18:48,426 with their heads under a Victorian glass dome." 318 00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:52,360 "But, no, it seemed I could indulge myself 319 00:18:52,362 --> 00:18:54,425 to my heart's content." 320 00:19:00,861 --> 00:19:04,360 The idea of taking silver foil and putting it up. 321 00:19:04,362 --> 00:19:07,692 I mean, seeing beauty in something people wrap food in. 322 00:19:09,929 --> 00:19:12,194 It's sort of turning things on their head 323 00:19:12,196 --> 00:19:14,161 of what they're not meant to be. 324 00:19:15,561 --> 00:19:17,426 The sitter really became 325 00:19:17,428 --> 00:19:19,392 much less important than the background 326 00:19:19,394 --> 00:19:22,161 or the whole conception of the design 327 00:19:22,163 --> 00:19:24,327 that I had made with the camera. 328 00:19:24,329 --> 00:19:26,526 And yet one very seldom sees unknown faces 329 00:19:26,528 --> 00:19:27,761 photographed by Beaton. 330 00:19:27,763 --> 00:19:30,560 Was that a conscious policy to find distinguished sitters? 331 00:19:30,562 --> 00:19:33,193 No, I wouldn't say it was conscious in that way. 332 00:19:33,195 --> 00:19:35,260 I mean, I've photographed a lot of friends 333 00:19:35,262 --> 00:19:36,692 who weren't at all well-known. 334 00:19:36,694 --> 00:19:38,592 I think, obviously, that impression comes 335 00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:40,894 because it was the distinguished or well-known ones 336 00:19:40,896 --> 00:19:43,359 that got into the newspapers. 337 00:19:43,361 --> 00:19:47,326 And I did have an eye to publicity. 338 00:19:47,328 --> 00:19:49,792 That was very astonishing for my father 339 00:19:49,794 --> 00:19:53,692 who was quite baffled at the way things suddenly moved. 340 00:19:53,694 --> 00:19:57,827 Because very soon I went to America. 341 00:19:57,829 --> 00:20:00,726 I was confident that I would really 342 00:20:00,728 --> 00:20:03,692 just take America by storm. 343 00:20:05,862 --> 00:20:09,827 What a marvelous thing great physical beauty is. 344 00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:12,893 It's nothing less than a living miracle. 345 00:20:12,895 --> 00:20:17,359 It's not the result of achievement, skill, 346 00:20:17,361 --> 00:20:19,559 patience, or endeavor. 347 00:20:19,561 --> 00:20:22,527 It's just a divine happening. 348 00:20:22,529 --> 00:20:25,526 "Soon after my arrival in New York, 349 00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:28,326 I publicly challenged the standards of beauty 350 00:20:28,328 --> 00:20:30,792 between English and American women." 351 00:20:32,494 --> 00:20:34,759 For beautiful necks and heads, 352 00:20:34,761 --> 00:20:38,792 England possesses the prize winners. 353 00:20:38,794 --> 00:20:42,593 There are many whose beauty should be immortal, 354 00:20:42,595 --> 00:20:45,693 for their alabaster complexions, 355 00:20:45,695 --> 00:20:48,726 their cheeks like pink ice creams, 356 00:20:48,728 --> 00:20:50,460 the cherry lips, 357 00:20:50,462 --> 00:20:53,260 pansy eyes, the feathery lashes. 358 00:21:03,394 --> 00:21:06,326 I think to begin with in my career, 359 00:21:06,328 --> 00:21:10,259 I was terribly limited in my approach, 360 00:21:10,261 --> 00:21:14,194 and I only could appreciate certain forms 361 00:21:14,196 --> 00:21:16,760 of character or beauty. 362 00:21:19,163 --> 00:21:23,259 But the English fail badly about feet and legs. 363 00:21:23,261 --> 00:21:25,693 And here the New Yorkers win, 364 00:21:25,695 --> 00:21:28,226 for their wrists, their ankles, 365 00:21:28,228 --> 00:21:30,793 their legs, their movements, 366 00:21:30,795 --> 00:21:34,592 they are perfect and essential in 1929. 367 00:21:42,495 --> 00:21:45,693 "I fell in love with the new energy I found in the streets 368 00:21:45,695 --> 00:21:48,460 and quickly began recording it with my camera." 369 00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:59,527 I think, with experience, looking around in life, 370 00:21:59,529 --> 00:22:05,827 the photographer gets to appreciate beauty 371 00:22:05,829 --> 00:22:09,426 in very much wider fields. 372 00:22:14,695 --> 00:22:17,692 There's that old expression, "Beauty is where you see it." 373 00:22:17,694 --> 00:22:20,692 I think beauty is there to be recognized 374 00:22:20,694 --> 00:22:23,460 and I think it's terribly important 375 00:22:23,462 --> 00:22:28,660 for the photographer to approach the subject 376 00:22:28,662 --> 00:22:31,893 with a very definite point of view of his own. 377 00:22:36,662 --> 00:22:39,293 Well, it took some time and it was touch and go 378 00:22:39,295 --> 00:22:41,827 when then suddenly things went well. 379 00:22:41,829 --> 00:22:44,292 I got a terribly good contract. 380 00:22:55,294 --> 00:22:57,626 Beaton wasn't the first fashion photographer. 381 00:22:57,628 --> 00:22:59,426 He didn't invent the genre, 382 00:22:59,428 --> 00:23:01,627 but he certainly took it places. 383 00:23:03,195 --> 00:23:06,392 He brought romance, he brought a sense of style, 384 00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:08,826 he knew how to pose his models, 385 00:23:08,828 --> 00:23:11,560 he knew how to create the mood, 386 00:23:11,562 --> 00:23:16,325 that ineffable magic he brought to the mix. 387 00:23:16,327 --> 00:23:20,659 He's the best-known homegrown British photographer 388 00:23:20,661 --> 00:23:22,859 of that period 389 00:23:22,861 --> 00:23:25,259 crossing the Atlantic and photographs being published 390 00:23:25,261 --> 00:23:27,426 in both American Vogue and British Vogue 391 00:23:27,428 --> 00:23:29,860 and also French Vogue. 392 00:23:35,427 --> 00:23:36,459 He's so full of energy, 393 00:23:36,461 --> 00:23:41,292 he finds inspiration everywhere. 394 00:23:41,294 --> 00:23:45,426 You look at the Surrealist photographs from the 1930s, 395 00:23:45,428 --> 00:23:48,459 it's very much about shadow and forebodingness 396 00:23:48,461 --> 00:23:50,827 or there's something impending. 397 00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,259 And I think a lot of that is actually taken 398 00:23:53,261 --> 00:23:55,727 from some German Expressionist cinema. 399 00:23:59,728 --> 00:24:03,893 And, of course, he makes friends with painters, 400 00:24:03,895 --> 00:24:06,793 Tchelitchew, for example, and Christian Bérard, 401 00:24:06,795 --> 00:24:09,359 the sort of French Neo-romantics, 402 00:24:09,361 --> 00:24:12,727 he borrows an awful lot from them as well. 403 00:24:14,929 --> 00:24:18,359 I think that what he brought to the world of Vogue 404 00:24:18,361 --> 00:24:22,527 was something that no other contributor brought, 405 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:27,159 which was not only was he a great fashion photographer 406 00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:30,160 and a witty illustrator... 407 00:24:31,529 --> 00:24:36,225 ...but he was also a very, very evocative writer. 408 00:24:39,628 --> 00:24:41,826 "Each winter, I returned to New York 409 00:24:41,828 --> 00:24:46,592 to take photographs with a passionate enthusiasm. 410 00:24:46,594 --> 00:24:50,359 But I did not feel I had yet expressed myself completely." 411 00:24:52,828 --> 00:24:56,493 "I still had a gnawing haunting for the stage." 412 00:25:07,928 --> 00:25:10,826 I was making a little money with my photographs, 413 00:25:10,828 --> 00:25:15,359 but I didn't deserve to have even a cottage. 414 00:25:15,361 --> 00:25:17,827 And I was staying with Edith Olivier, 415 00:25:17,829 --> 00:25:20,160 who was a great friend of mine. 416 00:25:20,162 --> 00:25:22,593 I said to her, "I wonder if you know of any little place 417 00:25:22,595 --> 00:25:23,659 that just would be big enough 418 00:25:23,661 --> 00:25:27,559 to put a pot of honeysuckle on the windowsill." 419 00:25:27,561 --> 00:25:29,826 And she said, "Well, there's a deserted place 420 00:25:29,828 --> 00:25:31,759 that had a grotto in the garden." 421 00:25:31,761 --> 00:25:35,560 Grotto, my heavens, that's just what we wanted. 422 00:25:35,562 --> 00:25:38,460 I mean, a grotto sounded so Baroque, 423 00:25:38,462 --> 00:25:43,260 so Sitwellian, so Romantic, so Italian. 424 00:25:43,262 --> 00:25:47,160 So we went over and eventually we saw this place. 425 00:25:47,162 --> 00:25:49,293 And we walked down from the top of the downs, 426 00:25:49,295 --> 00:25:50,927 a very deep descent, 427 00:25:50,929 --> 00:25:54,225 and we looked under this marvelous archway, 428 00:25:54,227 --> 00:25:56,292 which was part of the building 429 00:25:56,294 --> 00:25:59,860 that had belonged to the horses and coaches. 430 00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:08,226 "I was almost numbed by my first encounter with the house. 431 00:26:08,228 --> 00:26:13,326 It was as if I had been touched on the head by some magic wand. 432 00:26:13,328 --> 00:26:15,425 It was love at first sight." 433 00:26:17,494 --> 00:26:20,325 "From the moment that I stood under the archway, 434 00:26:20,327 --> 00:26:23,859 I knew that this place was destined to be mine." 435 00:26:26,662 --> 00:26:30,692 Ashcombe was really so remote and so romantic 436 00:26:30,694 --> 00:26:35,760 and so mysterious, it was magical, really. 437 00:26:40,694 --> 00:26:45,160 I was so proud of this strange wayward place, 438 00:26:45,162 --> 00:26:47,527 that I tried to bring down from London 439 00:26:47,529 --> 00:26:50,659 as many friends as I possibly could to see it, 440 00:26:50,661 --> 00:26:53,693 and they all came under its rather haunted spell. 441 00:27:03,427 --> 00:27:05,393 When you read about Ashcombe 442 00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:08,560 and when he was hosting parties there, 443 00:27:08,562 --> 00:27:09,560 I mean, I just don't know 444 00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:13,292 how the guests had even one minute to breathe. 445 00:27:16,862 --> 00:27:19,793 If you went to Ashcombe as a guest, 446 00:27:19,795 --> 00:27:22,292 I can imagine that you'd be crawling out of there 447 00:27:22,294 --> 00:27:26,360 on Sunday night, unable to even think 448 00:27:26,362 --> 00:27:28,360 because there was so much going on. 449 00:27:33,561 --> 00:27:37,426 "Ashcombe had become a much-painted beauty spot. 450 00:27:37,428 --> 00:27:43,326 Many painters, Tchelitchew, Whistler, Bérard, 451 00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:46,459 and Dalí made drawings of the place." 452 00:27:52,425 --> 00:27:54,926 "Tchelitchew at first intimidated me, 453 00:27:54,928 --> 00:27:59,359 but soon cast an almost hypnotic influence over me." 454 00:28:02,494 --> 00:28:05,293 "Sometimes, in order to look at the landscape 455 00:28:05,295 --> 00:28:07,526 from a fresh point of view, 456 00:28:07,528 --> 00:28:10,726 I would employ the simple device I'd learned from him 457 00:28:10,728 --> 00:28:14,692 of gazing upside down at my panorama. 458 00:28:14,694 --> 00:28:16,560 It is quite astonishing to discover 459 00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:19,659 how much more clearly one can see the picture 460 00:28:19,661 --> 00:28:22,226 without preconceived ideas." 461 00:28:29,328 --> 00:28:33,559 "I decided to give a fête champêtre at Ashcombe. 462 00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:37,225 Drawings were made of costumes that my friends must wear." 463 00:28:43,194 --> 00:28:46,225 "Before leaving my house for the first time, 464 00:28:46,227 --> 00:28:49,693 my guests were made to trace the outlines of their hands 465 00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:52,792 on the walls of one of my bathrooms. 466 00:28:52,794 --> 00:28:56,292 By degrees, an extraordinary connection was achieved." 467 00:28:58,762 --> 00:29:03,293 "For me, the years that followed were the gayest of my life." 468 00:29:04,495 --> 00:29:10,460 "In that time, life took on a sudden color and warmth." 469 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:16,791 "Peter Watson. 470 00:29:16,793 --> 00:29:19,160 His acute sensibility, 471 00:29:19,162 --> 00:29:20,858 subtlety of mind, 472 00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:23,493 wry sense of humor, 473 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,726 and mysterious qualities of charm 474 00:29:26,728 --> 00:29:29,593 made him unlike anyone I had known." 475 00:29:32,228 --> 00:29:34,459 "I wish I had some of his gifts." 476 00:29:38,529 --> 00:29:41,360 I read not long ago about Peter Watson. 477 00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:44,292 Peter Watson was absolutely shocking. 478 00:29:44,294 --> 00:29:46,791 And for Cecil he was like, "Oh!" 479 00:29:46,793 --> 00:29:48,527 He was like a god, a young god. 480 00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:50,660 He wasn't that young or wasn't that god or that beautiful, 481 00:29:50,662 --> 00:29:54,759 but for Cecil it seems to me that he was like that. 482 00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:58,726 "I have never been in love with women, 483 00:29:58,728 --> 00:30:00,892 and I don't think I ever shall be 484 00:30:00,894 --> 00:30:04,925 in the way that I have been in love with men. 485 00:30:04,927 --> 00:30:09,259 I'm really a terrible, terrible homosexualist 486 00:30:09,261 --> 00:30:11,792 and try so hard not to be." 487 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:22,892 The Peter Watson love affair was very, very troubled. 488 00:30:22,894 --> 00:30:24,627 Peter Watson kept him very close to him, 489 00:30:24,629 --> 00:30:26,527 but on a sort of like no-touch basis, 490 00:30:26,529 --> 00:30:28,758 so Cecil Beaton was kind of like feeling 491 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,758 all the frustrations of the rejected lover. 492 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,459 What does Peter Watson do? 493 00:30:32,461 --> 00:30:34,359 He goes off with Oliver Messel, 494 00:30:34,361 --> 00:30:36,160 under Cecil's own roof. 495 00:30:41,428 --> 00:30:44,826 "Oliver Messel was my friend and my rival." 496 00:30:49,629 --> 00:30:52,826 "We had shared lovers, though I am bound to admit, 497 00:30:52,828 --> 00:30:55,492 I did not do well in the race." 498 00:31:05,529 --> 00:31:10,293 "There are no regrets in my amorous friendship with Peter. 499 00:31:10,295 --> 00:31:13,858 I am sad that it was never a mutual love affair." 500 00:31:34,294 --> 00:31:37,691 "My next stop was the celluloid oasis. 501 00:31:37,693 --> 00:31:44,226 At this time, all the Hollywood studios were a buzzing hive. 502 00:31:44,228 --> 00:31:47,426 Not only was this the center of motion pictures, 503 00:31:47,428 --> 00:31:51,193 but the talkies had just been invented. 504 00:31:51,195 --> 00:31:54,160 It was a time when Hollywood was alive." 505 00:31:55,394 --> 00:31:57,626 Then when he went to Hollywood in the '30s, 506 00:31:57,628 --> 00:31:59,260 he captures Hollywood 507 00:31:59,262 --> 00:32:01,826 and American elegance like no one. 508 00:32:01,828 --> 00:32:06,426 He managed to make it more American and chic at the time. 509 00:32:06,428 --> 00:32:10,560 Come on, that picture of Gary Cooper is beautiful. 510 00:32:10,562 --> 00:32:13,925 "To watch the antics of this lanky lad in Hollywood 511 00:32:13,927 --> 00:32:16,160 was like watching and enjoying 512 00:32:16,162 --> 00:32:20,626 the obvious discomfort of a caged eagle." 513 00:32:20,628 --> 00:32:23,592 I don't think anybody has really captured the 20th century 514 00:32:23,594 --> 00:32:26,226 in many, many decades like he has. 515 00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:46,559 "My Hollywood photographs were widely published 516 00:32:46,561 --> 00:32:48,561 and had a great influence in the film capital." 517 00:32:51,728 --> 00:32:55,293 "Meanwhile, the unexpected in all its forms 518 00:32:55,295 --> 00:32:57,193 is always lurking." 519 00:32:59,694 --> 00:33:03,293 "It can strike at any moment." 520 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,826 He was often asked to illustrate articles in Vogue. 521 00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:18,625 Into this particular article, 522 00:33:18,627 --> 00:33:20,825 he introduced some very unpleasant 523 00:33:20,827 --> 00:33:22,558 anti-Semitic slogans, 524 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,692 in particular the word "kike." 525 00:33:24,694 --> 00:33:26,658 But very, very small, and you'd really need 526 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:31,625 a magnifying glass to see what he had written. 527 00:33:31,627 --> 00:33:33,825 Condé Nast, the proprietor of Vogue, 528 00:33:33,827 --> 00:33:38,193 has to order the pulping of 130,000 copies 529 00:33:38,195 --> 00:33:40,726 of the magazine. 530 00:33:40,728 --> 00:33:44,859 "Condé was very emotionally upset. 531 00:33:44,861 --> 00:33:47,692 It was so serious that I had to resign." 532 00:33:51,693 --> 00:33:55,159 It's very hard to understand what he was thinking, 533 00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:58,826 'cause half his friends in New York were Jewish, 534 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:02,426 and American Vogue was run by Jewish people. 535 00:34:02,428 --> 00:34:05,393 I mean, it was an extraordinary thing to do. 536 00:34:10,261 --> 00:34:12,791 "Why did I do that? 537 00:34:12,793 --> 00:34:15,525 I was baffled. 538 00:34:15,527 --> 00:34:20,591 I can only tell you how deeply sorry I am. 539 00:34:20,593 --> 00:34:23,326 It was done unconsciously. 540 00:34:23,328 --> 00:34:24,558 I am not anti-Jewish 541 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,558 and I am violently hostile to Hitler." 542 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,425 Why did he do it? 543 00:34:31,427 --> 00:34:34,691 The incident was caused by thoughtlessness, arrogance, 544 00:34:34,693 --> 00:34:37,825 and misunderstanding of the gravity of the situation. 545 00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:41,292 And generally just getting above himself. 546 00:34:41,294 --> 00:34:42,527 And down he went. 547 00:34:44,927 --> 00:34:50,192 And he didn't really work for a year and a half after that. 548 00:34:50,194 --> 00:34:52,360 It was a wake up moment for him. 549 00:34:52,362 --> 00:34:54,459 He worked very hard to overcome it, 550 00:34:54,461 --> 00:34:58,692 but it was something that he didn't forget. 551 00:34:58,694 --> 00:35:01,428 He had some amends to make. 552 00:35:11,594 --> 00:35:15,659 "In July 1939, the telephone rang. 553 00:35:15,661 --> 00:35:18,424 'This is the lady in waiting speaking. 554 00:35:18,426 --> 00:35:20,759 The Queen wants to know if you will photograph her 555 00:35:20,761 --> 00:35:22,558 tomorrow afternoon.'" 556 00:35:25,362 --> 00:35:28,691 "At first I thought it might be a practical joke, 557 00:35:28,693 --> 00:35:31,359 the sort of thing Oliver Messel might do." 558 00:35:33,294 --> 00:35:34,825 "But it was no joke. 559 00:35:34,827 --> 00:35:39,626 My pleasure and excitement were overwhelming. 560 00:35:39,628 --> 00:35:41,859 Another lease of life extended to me 561 00:35:41,861 --> 00:35:44,160 in my photographic career." 562 00:35:48,394 --> 00:35:51,160 "I decided that of all painters, 563 00:35:51,162 --> 00:35:54,692 the most suitable to express the Queen's personality 564 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:56,658 would have been Renoir." 565 00:35:58,195 --> 00:36:01,591 "But there was no Renoir and I was to face my job 566 00:36:01,593 --> 00:36:04,492 that afternoon with a camera." 567 00:36:19,161 --> 00:36:21,293 "When I entered the gates of Buckingham Palace 568 00:36:21,295 --> 00:36:22,826 for the first time, 569 00:36:22,828 --> 00:36:26,791 on my way to photograph that ravishing and wonderful person, 570 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:29,858 Queen Elizabeth, I thought, 571 00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:31,826 'How did I get here?'" 572 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:40,425 That very first sitting that Beaton had 573 00:36:40,427 --> 00:36:43,324 with Queen Elizabeth as she was then, 574 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:46,159 later the Queen Mother, was in 1939. 575 00:36:46,161 --> 00:36:48,325 And in his diary he writes about the fact 576 00:36:48,327 --> 00:36:52,293 that he's expecting the sitting to last 20 minutes or so. 577 00:36:52,295 --> 00:36:54,859 And, in fact, he spent a full three hours 578 00:36:54,861 --> 00:36:57,725 at Buckingham Palace in many of the state rooms, 579 00:36:57,727 --> 00:37:01,325 out in the garden taking those incredibly romantic, 580 00:37:01,327 --> 00:37:04,160 beautiful pictures of the Queen with a parasol. 581 00:37:04,162 --> 00:37:09,324 So it was an immediate rapport that he struck up with the Queen 582 00:37:09,326 --> 00:37:12,159 that then led to so many subsequent sittings 583 00:37:12,161 --> 00:37:13,925 with her family and her children. 584 00:37:31,494 --> 00:37:34,160 Beaton photographed nearly 30 members 585 00:37:34,162 --> 00:37:35,559 of the British royal family, 586 00:37:35,561 --> 00:37:38,925 including the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. 587 00:37:38,927 --> 00:37:41,826 Beaton's images of the couple together 588 00:37:41,828 --> 00:37:45,525 helped to promote that idea of a royal love story 589 00:37:45,527 --> 00:37:50,259 and the king who abdicated for the woman who he adored. 590 00:37:53,293 --> 00:37:57,226 "Wallis Simpson, the lady who became the Duchess of Windsor, 591 00:37:57,228 --> 00:38:00,160 was one of my most frequent subjects." 592 00:38:01,426 --> 00:38:03,391 "For those who enjoy gossip, 593 00:38:03,393 --> 00:38:05,592 she was a particular treat." 594 00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:09,758 I think it's an extraordinary testament 595 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,858 to his strength of character that he was able to, 596 00:38:14,860 --> 00:38:18,224 on one hand, photograph the marriage of Wallis Simpson 597 00:38:18,226 --> 00:38:19,859 to the Duke of Windsor, 598 00:38:19,861 --> 00:38:25,858 and also to then take photographs of Queen Elizabeth 599 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:28,859 and her husband, the reigning king. 600 00:38:28,861 --> 00:38:31,659 These are two sides of the family 601 00:38:31,661 --> 00:38:34,160 that absolutely despised each other, 602 00:38:34,162 --> 00:38:35,591 and Beaton successfully manages 603 00:38:35,593 --> 00:38:39,591 to keep in with both factions. 604 00:38:43,594 --> 00:38:46,258 "The afternoon light began to fade, 605 00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:49,160 and the Queen, with all the wistful symbolism 606 00:38:49,162 --> 00:38:51,459 of a Chekhov character, said, 607 00:38:51,461 --> 00:38:53,359 'You watch, Mr. Beaton, 608 00:38:53,361 --> 00:38:57,159 in a little while the sky will be rose-colored. 609 00:38:57,161 --> 00:39:01,625 I sometimes think Piccadilly is on fire every evening.' 610 00:39:01,627 --> 00:39:05,594 Her words, alas, were only too prophetic." 611 00:39:33,193 --> 00:39:35,826 "The Blitz began in 1940. 612 00:39:35,828 --> 00:39:40,825 For months, London was terribly bombed. 613 00:39:40,827 --> 00:39:46,558 Once more, I was faced with my old vocational vertigo. 614 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,925 It was clear that in anything connected with soldiering, 615 00:39:49,927 --> 00:39:53,459 I would be a real sad sack. 616 00:39:53,461 --> 00:39:55,692 But I wanted to be useful." 617 00:39:57,527 --> 00:40:00,392 "I went down to the city to photograph the damage done 618 00:40:00,394 --> 00:40:02,292 by Sunday night's raid." 619 00:40:14,628 --> 00:40:17,826 The Minister of Information was desperate 620 00:40:17,828 --> 00:40:21,159 for international understanding and support, 621 00:40:21,161 --> 00:40:23,425 particularly from America. 622 00:40:23,427 --> 00:40:25,825 Cecil Beaton's unique style of photography, 623 00:40:25,827 --> 00:40:29,158 it was felt, would catch the eye. 624 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,158 It was different to the normal press photography. 625 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,558 They regularly used five photographers, 626 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,158 and Beaton is the most celebrated. 627 00:40:41,728 --> 00:40:44,826 He still felt that sense of shame 628 00:40:44,828 --> 00:40:51,558 for what he had done in 1938 with American Vogue. 629 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,391 He genuinely did long for redemption. 630 00:40:55,393 --> 00:40:58,292 And it's really only the war years 631 00:40:58,294 --> 00:41:00,658 that sort of save his reputation 632 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:02,692 'cause he does go out of his way to be 633 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:05,325 an extraordinary documentary photographer 634 00:41:05,327 --> 00:41:07,859 from 1939 onwards. 635 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,392 During the war, Cecil Beaton took over 7,000 photographs. 636 00:41:15,828 --> 00:41:18,626 He published eight books. 637 00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:23,492 Writing for innumerable magazine features 638 00:41:23,494 --> 00:41:25,492 and articles, 639 00:41:25,494 --> 00:41:27,626 as well as drawing for them. 640 00:41:32,394 --> 00:41:36,825 That began to open the door for Beaton to make a return, 641 00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:40,725 and it certainly made American Vogue and British Vogue 642 00:41:40,727 --> 00:41:43,425 think that maybe they ought to think again 643 00:41:43,427 --> 00:41:45,528 about employing him. 644 00:41:46,828 --> 00:41:52,659 I treated it always in a sort of visual way. 645 00:41:52,661 --> 00:41:55,391 I think it was a marvelous opportunity 646 00:41:55,393 --> 00:42:00,158 for me to be dug out of my little rut. 647 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,325 "I went to most of the theaters of war. 648 00:42:03,327 --> 00:42:06,726 I went to Burma and China and Egypt." 649 00:42:08,927 --> 00:42:11,158 "I remember a most extraordinary sight 650 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,625 when a whole lot of tanks had been blown up 651 00:42:13,627 --> 00:42:15,224 and left there, 652 00:42:15,226 --> 00:42:17,192 and these strange circular objects 653 00:42:17,194 --> 00:42:19,726 were half-buried in the sand. 654 00:42:19,728 --> 00:42:23,158 They just remained looking like a Surrealist picture." 655 00:42:36,260 --> 00:42:38,792 So different from conventional war photography 656 00:42:38,794 --> 00:42:40,292 because he's an aesthete 657 00:42:40,294 --> 00:42:42,292 and he's looking for beautiful things, 658 00:42:42,294 --> 00:42:45,558 even in extremis and despair and hardship. 659 00:42:48,193 --> 00:42:51,692 Which is very, very powerful and enduringly so, I think, 660 00:42:51,694 --> 00:42:53,826 it's just this idea that, you know, 661 00:42:53,828 --> 00:42:55,925 culture and beauty is going to survive 662 00:42:55,927 --> 00:42:57,659 whatever they throw at us. 663 00:43:16,627 --> 00:43:19,291 I think his sexuality is extremely important 664 00:43:19,293 --> 00:43:22,592 in those photographs, because the portrayals of, you know, 665 00:43:22,594 --> 00:43:24,924 the airmen and the soldiers and the sailors 666 00:43:24,926 --> 00:43:28,159 are very, very loving 667 00:43:28,161 --> 00:43:30,858 and sometimes eroticized and... 668 00:43:32,861 --> 00:43:35,758 ...and I think that's also something that you don't get 669 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,259 with conventional war photography. 670 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,359 "In the hangars of an aerodrome, 671 00:43:52,361 --> 00:43:54,424 I found more thrilling sets 672 00:43:54,426 --> 00:43:56,491 than in the Hollywood studios." 673 00:44:00,828 --> 00:44:04,291 "In the hospitals, there are characters and personalities 674 00:44:04,293 --> 00:44:05,759 to be seen, 675 00:44:05,761 --> 00:44:08,758 more vivid than in any stage drama." 676 00:44:10,528 --> 00:44:12,825 "With her little head bandaged, 677 00:44:12,827 --> 00:44:15,224 four-year-old Eileen Dunne was in bed 678 00:44:15,226 --> 00:44:19,626 with wild, staring eyes and a gray face 679 00:44:19,628 --> 00:44:22,659 and clutching a gray toy. 680 00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:25,591 Perhaps all that remained of her former life." 681 00:44:30,294 --> 00:44:33,458 Becomes the cover of Life magazine. 682 00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:39,158 You know, and it really does help persuade American opinion 683 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,792 in favor of helping out Europe. 684 00:44:47,361 --> 00:44:49,826 Beaton worked extraordinarily hard 685 00:44:49,828 --> 00:44:53,159 and often fell ill. 686 00:44:53,161 --> 00:44:57,158 He traveled in great discomfort. 687 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,758 He was in a very serious airplane crash. 688 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,691 Before that he was like a sugared almond, 689 00:45:04,693 --> 00:45:07,791 a sort of pretty little sweet, 690 00:45:07,793 --> 00:45:10,625 and then the inside of him he was like a hard nut. 691 00:45:10,627 --> 00:45:13,224 And he just got on a plane, 692 00:45:13,226 --> 00:45:14,759 the plane crashed, 693 00:45:14,761 --> 00:45:16,759 he got out of that plane and got on the next one, 694 00:45:16,761 --> 00:45:18,625 kept going, I mean, that's an incredible... 695 00:45:18,627 --> 00:45:22,525 for that sort of foppish dandy, that fondant piece of icing, 696 00:45:22,527 --> 00:45:25,391 he actually had a very hard interior. 697 00:45:26,561 --> 00:45:28,325 Have you ever, at any stage in your life, 698 00:45:28,327 --> 00:45:31,559 had to do something which was really too difficult for you? 699 00:45:31,561 --> 00:45:33,758 Oh, I'm always having to do things 700 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,925 which are too difficult for me, 701 00:45:34,927 --> 00:45:38,525 and I think that that is the thing that keeps me going. 702 00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:41,225 I'm perfectly willing to take on any job 703 00:45:41,227 --> 00:45:45,558 that I think may help make me a little better 704 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,259 as a human being. 705 00:45:58,393 --> 00:46:01,759 "Pelham Place, my home in London, 706 00:46:01,761 --> 00:46:05,458 was no longer habitable. 707 00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:06,725 The street was roped off 708 00:46:06,727 --> 00:46:11,258 with an unexploded bomb in the vicinity. 709 00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:13,191 So I was particularly blessed 710 00:46:13,193 --> 00:46:16,425 to have Ashcombe as a retreat. 711 00:46:16,427 --> 00:46:20,492 It became, more than ever, a refuge." 712 00:46:23,694 --> 00:46:26,626 When the time came, eventually, 713 00:46:26,628 --> 00:46:29,525 for me to go and see my landlord 714 00:46:29,527 --> 00:46:36,592 and to hear that he wanted to take over the place, 715 00:46:36,594 --> 00:46:38,291 I... I just couldn't believe it. 716 00:46:38,293 --> 00:46:40,492 It was like a death knell. 717 00:46:40,494 --> 00:46:42,891 I couldn't imagine that I would be expelled 718 00:46:42,893 --> 00:46:47,592 from this loveliness that I had made my own. 719 00:47:05,161 --> 00:47:07,691 "I've been going through all the old boxes." 720 00:47:09,826 --> 00:47:13,191 "The past comes alive with shocking vividness." 721 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,458 "Some of the letters and documents make me sad. 722 00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:27,592 Some almost stop my heart beating. 723 00:47:27,594 --> 00:47:30,491 The telegram announcing my father's death." 724 00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:34,691 "A piece of paper left on the hall table 725 00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:38,392 indicating that my brother, Reggie, was out. 726 00:47:38,394 --> 00:47:41,424 He would never come back to write that he was in." 727 00:47:46,394 --> 00:47:49,690 "The evening that Reggie was killed by an underground train, 728 00:47:49,692 --> 00:47:51,425 I felt unmoved." 729 00:47:54,261 --> 00:47:58,626 "His suicide was the crowning blow to my father's life. 730 00:47:58,628 --> 00:48:00,225 I thought, 731 00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:03,924 'Dear Daddy, what a nightmare ordeal for you.'" 732 00:48:05,826 --> 00:48:08,424 "'Reggie was your favorite son. 733 00:48:08,426 --> 00:48:10,259 You'd been such friends.'" 734 00:48:15,693 --> 00:48:17,324 "I'm thinking now of all the days 735 00:48:17,326 --> 00:48:19,558 Reggie and I spent together. 736 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,924 We grew up in great intimacy, 737 00:48:21,926 --> 00:48:25,291 fighting a lot but really devoted. 738 00:48:25,293 --> 00:48:27,658 I feel full of regret and guilt 739 00:48:27,660 --> 00:48:29,857 for having been so selfish." 740 00:48:37,827 --> 00:48:39,825 His mother was very much his responsibility 741 00:48:39,827 --> 00:48:43,159 after the father died. 742 00:48:43,161 --> 00:48:44,691 He was very protective of his mother 743 00:48:44,693 --> 00:48:46,691 and very devoted to her. 744 00:48:46,693 --> 00:48:49,925 Wherever he lived, she always had her own room 745 00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:52,259 and she was part of the scenery. 746 00:48:54,394 --> 00:48:56,658 "Since I was thrown out of Ashcombe, 747 00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:58,690 I have found a small house in the country 748 00:48:58,692 --> 00:49:01,259 to take its place. 749 00:49:01,261 --> 00:49:03,658 Of course, Reddish House did not possess 750 00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:07,724 the wayward romantic remoteness of Ashcombe. 751 00:49:07,726 --> 00:49:11,757 This was the abode of an adult person. 752 00:49:11,759 --> 00:49:14,891 Is it because it is my own that I love it so much?" 753 00:49:18,561 --> 00:49:20,191 He not only grew up 754 00:49:20,193 --> 00:49:25,425 and began to value things in life beyond himself, 755 00:49:25,427 --> 00:49:27,690 but it was also the point at which 756 00:49:27,692 --> 00:49:30,291 his life changed direction, 757 00:49:30,293 --> 00:49:35,159 which was less photography and more about stage design. 758 00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:43,258 After the war, when he did that famous production 759 00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:45,425 of the Wilde play Lady Windermere ' s Fan, 760 00:49:45,427 --> 00:49:48,224 I mean, that gave a glamour after 1945, 761 00:49:48,226 --> 00:49:51,624 after the dreadful, dull, gray, 762 00:49:51,626 --> 00:49:56,558 bleak, ruined, shitty kind of atmosphere. 763 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,158 Post 1945, suddenly to see this vision 764 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,791 of Edwardian grandeur, splendor, 765 00:50:02,793 --> 00:50:04,557 I mean, we needed that. 766 00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:09,392 "It was Diaghilev who set me on the track 767 00:50:09,394 --> 00:50:11,491 of designing for the theater and the ballet." 768 00:50:12,593 --> 00:50:15,424 "He was neither a dancer, a painter, 769 00:50:15,426 --> 00:50:18,690 a choreographer, nor a musician, 770 00:50:18,692 --> 00:50:20,691 but he had the vision, 771 00:50:20,693 --> 00:50:22,491 the taste, 772 00:50:22,493 --> 00:50:25,425 the knowledge to embrace all these things." 773 00:50:27,592 --> 00:50:30,325 Cecil Beaton was inspired by 774 00:50:30,327 --> 00:50:33,292 the two great Russian icons of ballet 775 00:50:33,294 --> 00:50:35,825 who came from the same generation 776 00:50:35,827 --> 00:50:37,658 and were totally opposed to each other... 777 00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:40,724 Anna Pavlova and Serge Diaghilev. 778 00:50:40,726 --> 00:50:42,758 Ballet people talk about the word "perfume," 779 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,292 and Anna Pavlova was the ultimate perfume ballerina. 780 00:50:45,294 --> 00:50:47,624 She would leave essences of herself, 781 00:50:47,626 --> 00:50:50,824 and had a wonderful quality of upper body acting, 782 00:50:50,826 --> 00:50:52,625 so people thought she was like a flame. 783 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,758 The ballet I wish we could see 784 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,158 is the original version of Apparitions. 785 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,591 Just see these extraordinary splashes of color 786 00:51:02,593 --> 00:51:03,757 where the whole corps de ballet, 787 00:51:03,759 --> 00:51:06,324 one section's wearing purple and lilac, 788 00:51:06,326 --> 00:51:07,858 one section's wearing scarlet, 789 00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:10,790 and that gives us such an idea of pure beauty. 790 00:51:15,293 --> 00:51:16,525 I don't think Cecil Beaton was like 791 00:51:16,527 --> 00:51:17,658 anybody else in the world of dance 792 00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:20,858 because he was a photographer and he was a designer. 793 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:24,457 I can't really think of people who did those two things. 794 00:51:24,459 --> 00:51:27,158 But he was, you know, he was a personality and opinion, 795 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,691 and he was like all these post-Diaghilev people, 796 00:51:29,693 --> 00:51:31,557 he was a dandy. 797 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,525 Everything about him was style. 798 00:51:39,527 --> 00:51:42,857 The way he dressed, the way the table was laid. 799 00:51:42,859 --> 00:51:44,825 The flowers in the house. 800 00:51:44,827 --> 00:51:48,725 All those little details of a kind of dandy. 801 00:51:58,526 --> 00:52:00,658 It goes far beyond clothes. 802 00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:03,458 It's an attitude, and in his case 803 00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:07,825 the way he documented the world around him. 804 00:52:07,827 --> 00:52:09,825 Do you think you were, when you were younger, 805 00:52:09,827 --> 00:52:12,292 abnormally self-conscious about your appearance? 806 00:52:12,294 --> 00:52:14,325 - Oh yes. - Are you still so? 807 00:52:14,327 --> 00:52:16,292 Luckily, no. 808 00:52:16,294 --> 00:52:19,590 I've got rid of the past except for this hat. 809 00:52:21,527 --> 00:52:25,892 This hat I wear because I think it has a certain... 810 00:52:25,894 --> 00:52:28,258 Edwardian bravura, 811 00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:32,525 and also it hides the fact that I'm going bald. 812 00:52:32,527 --> 00:52:35,524 And I don't like to exhibit myself quite bald, you know. 813 00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:42,457 Cecil had an aura about him that really drew you in. 814 00:52:44,392 --> 00:52:46,625 He was extremely stylish, 815 00:52:46,627 --> 00:52:49,857 but he looked totally unlike anybody else. 816 00:52:51,226 --> 00:52:53,690 He's both very vain 817 00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:56,225 and very modest at the same time. 818 00:52:57,659 --> 00:53:01,791 He has a kind of social vanity, 819 00:53:01,793 --> 00:53:05,259 which is amusing and unique, and I like it, 820 00:53:05,261 --> 00:53:07,457 and it's part of his charm. 821 00:53:07,459 --> 00:53:09,624 Am I vain? 822 00:53:09,626 --> 00:53:12,158 Oh no, anything but vain. 823 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,192 I'm my worst critic. 824 00:53:16,194 --> 00:53:17,790 I've got this strange feeling about vanity. 825 00:53:17,792 --> 00:53:21,423 I think vanity's when you think you're perfect. 826 00:53:21,425 --> 00:53:23,158 And Cecil didn't think he was perfect 827 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,323 and tried to improve himself. 828 00:53:25,325 --> 00:53:27,457 But he was hugely critical. 829 00:53:27,459 --> 00:53:30,925 I think he thought some people didn't rise to his standards. 830 00:53:37,227 --> 00:53:39,694 Who is the most beautiful woman you've ever photographed? 831 00:53:41,294 --> 00:53:43,295 Uh, I suppose Garbo. 832 00:53:44,326 --> 00:53:46,891 "I am obsessed by her. 833 00:53:46,893 --> 00:53:48,824 The moment I wake in the morning, 834 00:53:48,826 --> 00:53:50,525 I start to think about her, 835 00:53:50,527 --> 00:53:52,192 and so it goes on all day, 836 00:53:52,194 --> 00:53:55,491 and then in my dreams at night." 837 00:53:55,493 --> 00:53:57,158 Don't speak. 838 00:54:01,425 --> 00:54:04,290 Miss Garbo, I always wanted to photograph her, 839 00:54:04,292 --> 00:54:06,558 but she was very averse to the idea 840 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,159 until suddenly one day, fate played into my lap 841 00:54:11,161 --> 00:54:13,424 and she said, 842 00:54:13,426 --> 00:54:18,558 "If only you weren't such a grand and elegant photographer." 843 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,258 So I said, "I suppose then you'd ask me 844 00:54:20,260 --> 00:54:22,857 to take a passport photograph, wouldn't you?" 845 00:54:22,859 --> 00:54:24,790 She said, "How did you know?" 846 00:54:25,894 --> 00:54:27,192 Well, the pictures I took 847 00:54:27,194 --> 00:54:29,658 weren't very suitable for passport. 848 00:54:41,194 --> 00:54:42,824 They were the most beautiful pictures, 849 00:54:42,826 --> 00:54:44,625 those pictures of Garbo, 850 00:54:44,627 --> 00:54:45,658 and they were loving, 851 00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:48,324 you could feel that he just adored her, right, 852 00:54:48,326 --> 00:54:49,924 more than other subjects. 853 00:54:51,826 --> 00:54:53,690 These pictures of her kind of sprawled out on a couch 854 00:54:53,692 --> 00:54:56,357 wearing a turtleneck and this amazing bracelet. 855 00:54:58,426 --> 00:54:59,892 "She put a penciled line 856 00:54:59,894 --> 00:55:03,490 on the back of those of which she approved, 857 00:55:03,492 --> 00:55:05,892 and would allow me to publish one of them in Vogue." 858 00:55:10,726 --> 00:55:13,791 "A week before the magazine was to be in all the bookstores, 859 00:55:13,793 --> 00:55:16,258 Greta sent me a cable 860 00:55:16,260 --> 00:55:19,825 saying that if more than one of the photographs were to appear, 861 00:55:19,827 --> 00:55:21,858 I would never be forgiven." 862 00:55:26,492 --> 00:55:32,490 "Frantic calls to my friends at Vogue, 'Stop everything!' 863 00:55:32,492 --> 00:55:35,158 It was too late, the copies were already bound 864 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,857 and on their way throughout the country." 865 00:55:39,425 --> 00:55:42,625 "Through a complete misunderstanding, 866 00:55:42,627 --> 00:55:44,757 it was now impossible to prevent her 867 00:55:44,759 --> 00:55:47,424 from feeling completely betrayed." 868 00:55:51,292 --> 00:55:54,691 "My abject cables, letters, telephone calls, 869 00:55:54,693 --> 00:55:57,525 and flowers sent to her were unanswered." 870 00:55:59,293 --> 00:56:01,858 There was a self-destructive thing there, 871 00:56:01,860 --> 00:56:05,223 not in terms of his career 872 00:56:05,225 --> 00:56:07,257 or what he was doing as an artist, 873 00:56:07,259 --> 00:56:11,324 much more about the destruction of relationships, you know? 874 00:56:11,326 --> 00:56:14,290 This compulsion to make things all the time 875 00:56:14,292 --> 00:56:15,458 is what drives your life, 876 00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:17,524 and you sacrifice almost everything 877 00:56:17,526 --> 00:56:18,824 on the altar of that. 878 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,324 Beaton is a creative force, 879 00:56:24,326 --> 00:56:27,424 and it's about creating this illusory world 880 00:56:27,426 --> 00:56:32,290 that the viewer is invited to step into. 881 00:56:32,292 --> 00:56:36,690 The idea of the scrapbook, the collage, is pure Beaton. 882 00:56:39,626 --> 00:56:44,791 "So I have now 150 diaries and 97 scrapbooks, 883 00:56:44,793 --> 00:56:48,158 memorials of many violated magazines, 884 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,924 repositories of museum picture postcards, 885 00:56:50,926 --> 00:56:53,858 theatrical programs, letters, and photographs 886 00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:56,424 which I have accumulated since childhood." 887 00:57:01,859 --> 00:57:05,458 "If I could bring one thing to a deserted island, 888 00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:08,423 I would choose one of my scrapbooks, 889 00:57:08,425 --> 00:57:09,590 because they're full of pictures 890 00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:12,558 of people still alive in my memory." 891 00:57:16,527 --> 00:57:18,757 "Finally, after six months, 892 00:57:18,759 --> 00:57:21,790 Greta called and left word with my secretary 893 00:57:21,792 --> 00:57:24,258 that she would visit me that afternoon." 894 00:57:25,727 --> 00:57:28,624 "My heart started to thump so violently, 895 00:57:28,626 --> 00:57:30,424 it was almost alarming." 896 00:57:32,192 --> 00:57:36,290 Yes, I think there was some hanky panky with Greta Garbo. 897 00:57:36,292 --> 00:57:37,691 Something happened, I don't know what. 898 00:57:37,693 --> 00:57:40,423 It might have just been a rather... 899 00:57:40,425 --> 00:57:42,458 awkward fumble on the sofa or something, 900 00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:44,224 I don't know, but something happened. 901 00:57:44,226 --> 00:57:47,324 He thought he could turn Garbo, 902 00:57:47,326 --> 00:57:49,657 and I think Garbo hoped she could turn him. 903 00:57:49,659 --> 00:57:52,424 But I'm told actually Cecil was quite good in bed 904 00:57:52,426 --> 00:57:53,557 with girls. 905 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,558 "I had known that we were made for each other." 906 00:57:59,827 --> 00:58:02,758 "I asked, 'Why don't you marry me?'" 907 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,290 "I never asked anyone to marry me, 908 00:58:06,292 --> 00:58:07,291 and yet to make this proposal 909 00:58:07,293 --> 00:58:10,491 seemed the most natural and easy thing to do." 910 00:58:12,759 --> 00:58:15,423 "But Greta looked completely astounded." 911 00:58:18,726 --> 00:58:21,690 Garbo, to some extent, may well have been a lesbian, 912 00:58:21,692 --> 00:58:24,557 but she also had quite a lot of relationships with men. 913 00:58:26,626 --> 00:58:29,257 The problem certainly about him sort of settling down 914 00:58:29,259 --> 00:58:30,924 into one of those cozy partnerships 915 00:58:30,926 --> 00:58:32,757 was unlikely to work really very well 916 00:58:32,759 --> 00:58:33,758 because there was always 917 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,558 some incredibly tempting lighted candle somewhere 918 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,791 which was more appealing. 919 00:58:40,425 --> 00:58:42,490 He had this vision of what he wanted to be, 920 00:58:42,492 --> 00:58:45,127 and he was always in a hurry. 921 00:58:46,325 --> 00:58:48,424 "Anything for the uprise," as he once put it. 922 00:58:48,426 --> 00:58:52,290 He was very, very keen to move in good social circles. 923 00:58:52,292 --> 00:58:54,157 He loved that royalty thing. 924 00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:55,557 I suppose if you looked at it one way, 925 00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:57,223 it could be kind of endearing 926 00:58:57,225 --> 00:58:59,824 that he was so taken in by all that stuff, 927 00:58:59,826 --> 00:59:03,223 and, uh, and I think 'cause of his background, 928 00:59:03,225 --> 00:59:06,691 he wanted to be part of that group of people. 929 00:59:06,693 --> 00:59:08,257 If a person had a crown on his head, 930 00:59:08,259 --> 00:59:10,158 he liked them much more. 931 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,757 He was a terrible social climber. 932 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,658 "The call saying the Queen wanted me to do 933 00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:24,290 her personal coronation photographs 934 00:59:24,292 --> 00:59:26,357 comes as an enormous relief." 935 00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:32,924 By the time of the Queen's coronation in 1953, 936 00:59:32,926 --> 00:59:36,590 Beaton was already world famous. 937 00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:42,925 He attended Westminster Abbey for the ceremony itself. 938 00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:44,924 He was seated very high up in the abbey, 939 00:59:44,926 --> 00:59:46,690 up near the organ pipes, 940 00:59:46,692 --> 00:59:49,557 and he had his top hat stuffed full of sandwiches 941 00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:51,490 and drawing materials. 942 00:59:51,492 --> 00:59:56,191 And he recorded, in very simple black sketches, 943 00:59:56,193 --> 00:59:59,290 the goings on in the abbey as they unfolded before him. 944 00:59:59,292 --> 01:00:01,690 Long live the Queen! 945 01:00:01,692 --> 01:00:03,491 Long live the Queen! 946 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,791 When you look at those pictures of the Queen, 947 01:00:12,793 --> 01:00:14,824 particularly the color images, 948 01:00:14,826 --> 01:00:17,558 there's a real glow about her, 949 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,690 there's a sense that she's almost radiating light. 950 01:00:29,727 --> 01:00:31,891 The image he created of the monarchy 951 01:00:31,893 --> 01:00:34,324 was absolutely crucial, 952 01:00:34,326 --> 01:00:35,790 and his ability to create 953 01:00:35,792 --> 01:00:40,691 this seemingly magnificent, unfolding tale 954 01:00:40,693 --> 01:00:43,690 of romance and glamour was so important 955 01:00:43,692 --> 01:00:45,191 to inspire the nation. 956 01:00:48,892 --> 01:00:52,824 I don't know if he ever became an insider himself, 957 01:00:52,826 --> 01:00:55,290 because I think that he always saw himself 958 01:00:55,292 --> 01:00:58,557 as beneath his subjects, especially the royal family. 959 01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,690 He just felt so privileged to be near them 960 01:01:01,692 --> 01:01:03,691 in the same room, you know? 961 01:01:03,693 --> 01:01:05,924 And I always found that a little sad. 962 01:01:05,926 --> 01:01:09,191 But he's English, so he knows his place. 963 01:01:11,727 --> 01:01:14,490 The British class system is a very, very interesting 964 01:01:14,492 --> 01:01:17,290 and strange animal. 965 01:01:17,292 --> 01:01:19,157 If you were born outside that world, 966 01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:20,158 that was just it, 967 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,390 and you could be, you know, a court jester, 968 01:01:22,392 --> 01:01:25,457 and you could be a sort of entertainer 969 01:01:25,459 --> 01:01:28,724 and a recorder of it, 970 01:01:28,726 --> 01:01:30,857 but you were never going to be inside that world. 971 01:01:30,859 --> 01:01:34,557 Underneath it I think there was always an insecure person. 972 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,591 You know, he was never, ever confident 973 01:01:36,593 --> 01:01:39,558 that people were accepting him. 974 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,690 That's also a driving force. 975 01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:48,157 He published about 38 books in his lifetime. 976 01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:50,291 Some of them obviously were very visual, 977 01:01:50,293 --> 01:01:52,391 some of them were more like diaries. 978 01:01:54,260 --> 01:01:56,358 I think there are photographers and stylists 979 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,323 and certainly designers 980 01:01:58,325 --> 01:02:00,923 who have referenced Beaton heavily through the years. 981 01:02:02,026 --> 01:02:04,424 That incredible book, The Glass of Fashion, 982 01:02:04,426 --> 01:02:05,591 changed my life. 983 01:02:07,292 --> 01:02:09,258 He's able to do these incredible drawings, 984 01:02:09,260 --> 01:02:10,790 and it's great writing. 985 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,424 I was 18 and I got a job as an archivist 986 01:02:17,426 --> 01:02:19,890 in the Vogue Beaton archive. 987 01:02:19,892 --> 01:02:22,324 It was my job to look at the negatives, 988 01:02:22,326 --> 01:02:23,490 hold them up to a light 989 01:02:23,492 --> 01:02:26,157 and try and choreograph them 990 01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:29,290 to the Beaton pictures on the page in the magazine. 991 01:02:29,292 --> 01:02:30,691 Of course it rubbed off on me. 992 01:02:34,325 --> 01:02:38,824 I think it was Beaton's romance that attracted me. 993 01:02:38,826 --> 01:02:44,491 Human beings feed off escapism and fantasy 994 01:02:44,493 --> 01:02:47,357 in a reaction to the harshness of reality. 995 01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:50,924 I think there's a sort of nobility to fantasy 996 01:02:50,926 --> 01:02:52,157 for that reason. 997 01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,158 He opened my eyes to photography, 998 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,756 and I then realized 999 01:03:00,758 --> 01:03:04,657 there are some good portrait photographers. 1000 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,923 Beaton used the camera in a very particular way. 1001 01:03:09,925 --> 01:03:14,158 Really what mattered to him was always the subject. 1002 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,591 Seizing, freezing, holding that beauty, that glamour, 1003 01:03:18,593 --> 01:03:20,658 that idea. 1004 01:03:20,660 --> 01:03:23,691 Creating this Beaton universe. 1005 01:03:23,693 --> 01:03:25,923 It's not the world as he found it, 1006 01:03:25,925 --> 01:03:28,391 it's the world as he transformed it, 1007 01:03:28,393 --> 01:03:29,591 as he wished it to be. 1008 01:03:34,626 --> 01:03:36,724 One of the greatest contributions 1009 01:03:36,726 --> 01:03:39,157 to the quality of Gigi 1010 01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:44,558 is the fact that the producer hired Cecil Beaton 1011 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,789 to do everything visual in the film. 1012 01:03:50,459 --> 01:03:53,689 Can you imagine what that was like for Cecil Beaton? 1013 01:03:53,691 --> 01:03:56,158 Going to a soundstage where you could just create 1014 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,890 absolutely anything, carte blanche. 1015 01:03:59,893 --> 01:04:01,457 That's like a fantasy, 1016 01:04:01,459 --> 01:04:03,357 that's like being in the biggest space in the world 1017 01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:05,891 and someone saying, like, "Just create your own reality." 1018 01:04:05,893 --> 01:04:07,823 Hello, Grandmama. 1019 01:04:07,825 --> 01:04:10,358 Gigi, where have you been? 1020 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,690 - Playing in the park. - Armenonville. 1021 01:04:12,692 --> 01:04:15,657 A lot of the picture was shot in Paris, 1022 01:04:15,659 --> 01:04:17,757 and then we went back to Hollywood 1023 01:04:17,759 --> 01:04:19,790 just for the interiors. 1024 01:04:19,792 --> 01:04:23,624 It was the first time that I've ever worked as a designer 1025 01:04:23,626 --> 01:04:25,856 in a major Hollywood studio. 1026 01:04:25,858 --> 01:04:29,823 You can ask the impossible and it suddenly appears. 1027 01:04:31,493 --> 01:04:32,856 Look, Gaston. 1028 01:04:32,858 --> 01:04:35,857 Four yards of material in the skirt. 1029 01:04:35,859 --> 01:04:38,458 Cecil didn't miss a minute. 1030 01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:43,357 He was there every day from seven o'clock on. 1031 01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:47,923 And then while we were shooting, he would take pictures. 1032 01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:49,324 "More than anyone else, 1033 01:04:49,326 --> 01:04:51,823 Leslie Caron poses the question, 1034 01:04:51,825 --> 01:04:55,458 'What makes a face photogenic?' 1035 01:04:55,460 --> 01:04:57,857 In life and onstage, 1036 01:04:57,859 --> 01:05:00,424 we see a delightful little frog." 1037 01:05:01,258 --> 01:05:03,690 "In the twinkling of a flashbulb, 1038 01:05:03,692 --> 01:05:05,724 we see a photograph of a beauty." 1039 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,591 Beaton entered into my realm subliminally when I was a kid. 1040 01:05:14,593 --> 01:05:19,557 I think that, of the films that I love of Beaton's, 1041 01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:22,458 the one that I love the most is My Fair Lady. 1042 01:05:32,459 --> 01:05:36,324 When they came to me with My Fair Lady, 1043 01:05:36,326 --> 01:05:39,290 I just knew that I'd really got something 1044 01:05:39,292 --> 01:05:41,558 that I'd always been wishing for. 1045 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,324 It was really a question 1046 01:05:45,326 --> 01:05:49,589 of delving down into the... my youth, into my childhood, 1047 01:05:49,591 --> 01:05:51,257 into my adolescence. 1048 01:05:54,426 --> 01:05:56,689 My mother took me to see My Fair Lady, 1049 01:05:56,691 --> 01:05:58,756 and I remember the credits coming up. 1050 01:06:00,527 --> 01:06:05,257 I also remember thinking that he'd got it all horribly wrong 1051 01:06:05,259 --> 01:06:07,358 by giving the Ascot ladies 1052 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:12,290 that... those kind of early sixties Cleopatra winged eyes. 1053 01:06:12,292 --> 01:06:14,257 ♪ Pulses ♪ 1054 01:06:14,259 --> 01:06:16,157 ♪ Rushing ♪ 1055 01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:17,923 ♪ Faces ♪ 1056 01:06:17,925 --> 01:06:19,524 ♪ Flushing ♪ 1057 01:06:19,526 --> 01:06:24,157 And I could already see that that was entirely un-1912. 1058 01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:27,257 ♪ I have never been so keyed up ♪ 1059 01:06:27,259 --> 01:06:29,756 So I was a little bit tut tutty about the whole thing. 1060 01:06:29,758 --> 01:06:31,623 But I... 1061 01:06:31,625 --> 01:06:32,524 which is a little bit scary 1062 01:06:32,526 --> 01:06:34,823 considering I was seven or eight, I think. 1063 01:06:34,825 --> 01:06:39,191 Um, but of course I later came to realize 1064 01:06:39,193 --> 01:06:42,723 that as an ensemble, it was quite remarkable. 1065 01:06:42,725 --> 01:06:48,457 ♪ The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain ♪ 1066 01:06:48,459 --> 01:06:50,158 ♪ I think she's got it ♪ 1067 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,790 ♪ I think she's got it ♪ 1068 01:06:51,792 --> 01:06:56,557 ♪ The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain ♪ 1069 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:59,323 You could argue that after Eliza Doolittle 1070 01:06:59,325 --> 01:07:01,257 learns how to speak properly, 1071 01:07:01,259 --> 01:07:03,524 Cecil carries the rest of the film completely. 1072 01:07:03,526 --> 01:07:06,323 And it's all visual, really, after that. 1073 01:07:06,325 --> 01:07:08,424 On top of being a photographer, on top of being a writer, 1074 01:07:08,426 --> 01:07:09,924 he was a painter. 1075 01:07:09,926 --> 01:07:13,790 And that color sense that Beaton had was marvelous. 1076 01:07:14,858 --> 01:07:17,824 For me, if you get the color right, you have it. 1077 01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:22,523 The one production that one tends to associate with you 1078 01:07:22,525 --> 01:07:24,390 above all others is My Fair Lady, 1079 01:07:24,392 --> 01:07:26,191 both the play and the film, 1080 01:07:26,193 --> 01:07:28,257 which won you, I think, two Oscars. 1081 01:07:28,259 --> 01:07:30,557 I got the impression that when it came to doing the film, 1082 01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:32,823 you were less happy in Hollywood. 1083 01:07:32,825 --> 01:07:35,657 I loved the preparation. 1084 01:07:35,659 --> 01:07:37,789 I thought that was the most exciting thing 1085 01:07:37,791 --> 01:07:41,424 because I was rethinking the whole production. 1086 01:07:41,426 --> 01:07:45,924 But unfortunately, once we started shooting, 1087 01:07:45,926 --> 01:07:49,291 I felt disappointed 1088 01:07:49,293 --> 01:07:55,158 with certain personal aspects of the whole set up. 1089 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,456 He was quite wound up over in Los Angeles, 1090 01:07:57,458 --> 01:07:58,556 'cause he hated it. 1091 01:07:58,558 --> 01:08:00,690 "Oh, that terrible George Cukor. 1092 01:08:00,692 --> 01:08:02,423 Such a nightmare." 1093 01:08:02,425 --> 01:08:04,357 I gather that you really didn't get on very well 1094 01:08:04,359 --> 01:08:06,258 with Cecil Beaton. 1095 01:08:06,260 --> 01:08:08,657 No, I didn't. 1096 01:08:08,659 --> 01:08:09,891 Would you like to expand on that? 1097 01:08:09,893 --> 01:08:11,857 No, no, it's a boring subject. 1098 01:08:11,859 --> 01:08:14,190 I'm sure he's bored with it, and so am I. 1099 01:08:14,192 --> 01:08:15,857 No, no. 1100 01:08:15,859 --> 01:08:18,422 - But... - Except he did pick my pockets. 1101 01:08:18,424 --> 01:08:20,290 And he attempted to strangle me, 1102 01:08:20,292 --> 01:08:23,291 and he's a forger and everything. 1103 01:08:23,293 --> 01:08:26,422 No, no, it just... we just didn't get on very well. 1104 01:08:26,424 --> 01:08:27,623 And I was right. 1105 01:08:32,425 --> 01:08:34,824 "I really suffocated in Hollywood." 1106 01:08:36,825 --> 01:08:38,856 "It is ugly beyond belief, 1107 01:08:38,858 --> 01:08:40,224 and there were very few people 1108 01:08:40,226 --> 01:08:42,358 with whom I could speak the same language." 1109 01:08:47,826 --> 01:08:49,689 "It is two years since that night 1110 01:08:49,691 --> 01:08:53,724 when at that strange locale, among the black leather toughs, 1111 01:08:53,726 --> 01:08:56,789 one very beautiful fawnlike creature in olive green 1112 01:08:56,791 --> 01:09:00,790 smiled the sweetest, most tender of smiles at me." 1113 01:09:04,192 --> 01:09:07,524 I think Cecil was very much in love with Kin Hoitsma. 1114 01:09:07,526 --> 01:09:10,157 He was like a schoolgirl with Kin. 1115 01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,257 He was all... I remember in the pool, 1116 01:09:12,259 --> 01:09:14,824 and Kin would sort of pick up Cecil in his arms, 1117 01:09:14,826 --> 01:09:16,358 and Cecil, "Yeah," like that. 1118 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,789 I mean, he was so sort of girly with Kin. 1119 01:09:19,791 --> 01:09:22,924 "He was a continuous delight to the eye, 1120 01:09:22,926 --> 01:09:26,190 full of laughter, unspoiled, 1121 01:09:26,192 --> 01:09:28,723 enchantingly young and coltish, 1122 01:09:28,725 --> 01:09:31,690 and ceaselessly beautiful. 1123 01:09:31,692 --> 01:09:35,656 He was my most prized possession." 1124 01:09:37,358 --> 01:09:40,690 I don't think that Kin brought out the best in Cecil Beaton. 1125 01:09:40,692 --> 01:09:43,257 At that point, Cecil was experimenting 1126 01:09:43,259 --> 01:09:47,524 with a whole new generation, a whole new life. 1127 01:09:47,526 --> 01:09:49,191 He must have felt that this gave him 1128 01:09:49,193 --> 01:09:51,823 a sort of a great youthful boost, 1129 01:09:51,825 --> 01:09:55,158 but that's not a very good basis for a long-term relationship. 1130 01:09:57,559 --> 01:10:00,422 "Kin's exit was as if to an execution." 1131 01:10:01,691 --> 01:10:04,824 "I like to think it was as bad a moment for him 1132 01:10:04,826 --> 01:10:06,291 as it was for me." 1133 01:10:10,491 --> 01:10:12,390 "I went back to bed, 1134 01:10:12,392 --> 01:10:15,190 not to sleep but to moan at my loss 1135 01:10:15,192 --> 01:10:17,457 and to feel desperately sad." 1136 01:10:21,358 --> 01:10:24,423 I think he always wanted to have a longstanding romance, 1137 01:10:24,425 --> 01:10:26,589 and it never really worked. 1138 01:10:26,591 --> 01:10:30,157 I mean, the... he really was in love with Peter Watson 1139 01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:31,923 all his life, I think. 1140 01:10:31,925 --> 01:10:34,258 Kin was not unlike Peter Watson in a funny way. 1141 01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:35,323 Same sort of look. 1142 01:10:36,691 --> 01:10:38,258 Cecil Beaton seems to have had a knack 1143 01:10:38,260 --> 01:10:40,422 of being a pretty bad chooser, 1144 01:10:40,424 --> 01:10:42,890 and maybe we see a little thread going through all this 1145 01:10:42,892 --> 01:10:44,891 that perhaps, you know, subconsciously 1146 01:10:44,893 --> 01:10:47,157 he didn't really want to settle down with any of them. 1147 01:10:51,559 --> 01:10:52,423 Cecil Beaton, I suppose, 1148 01:10:52,425 --> 01:10:55,924 was basically homosexual without a doubt, 1149 01:10:55,926 --> 01:11:00,322 but he always realized that he was on the outside of society. 1150 01:11:00,324 --> 01:11:02,489 Cecil was definitely gay 1151 01:11:02,491 --> 01:11:04,158 in a time when it was against the law. 1152 01:11:05,591 --> 01:11:09,290 He did have a physical life, 1153 01:11:09,292 --> 01:11:13,790 but it was very behind closed doors. 1154 01:11:13,792 --> 01:11:16,524 He had one regular black gentleman 1155 01:11:16,526 --> 01:11:19,289 that he used to visit quite frequently. 1156 01:11:20,858 --> 01:11:22,656 But he was very discreet about it. 1157 01:11:26,792 --> 01:11:30,158 I think he was genuinely curious about other people, 1158 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,289 and felt inspired by great artists. 1159 01:11:34,291 --> 01:11:38,356 He saw himself in that sort of constellation 1160 01:11:38,358 --> 01:11:41,289 of great creative people. 1161 01:11:41,291 --> 01:11:43,556 You didn't have to be madly beautiful 1162 01:11:43,558 --> 01:11:45,389 to appeal to Cecil Beaton. 1163 01:11:45,391 --> 01:11:47,890 What he liked was people who expressed themselves. 1164 01:11:47,892 --> 01:11:50,523 But he was a very good friend to his friends, 1165 01:11:50,525 --> 01:11:53,322 and his friends were very, very loyal to him. 1166 01:11:53,324 --> 01:11:55,356 From the beginning, I've known him all my life, 1167 01:11:55,358 --> 01:11:56,724 he's a friend of a lifetime, 1168 01:11:56,726 --> 01:11:58,823 he always wanted a very good life, 1169 01:11:58,825 --> 01:12:00,789 and he realized there's only one very good life, 1170 01:12:00,791 --> 01:12:02,689 and that's the life that you know you want 1171 01:12:02,691 --> 01:12:03,723 and you make it yourself. 1172 01:12:03,725 --> 01:12:04,757 That's what he's done. 1173 01:12:04,759 --> 01:12:05,890 Don't you think? 1174 01:12:05,892 --> 01:12:08,289 Yes, well, he's a total self-creation. 1175 01:12:08,291 --> 01:12:09,824 - Mm, total. - There are very few people 1176 01:12:09,826 --> 01:12:12,257 in the world that are total self-creations, 1177 01:12:12,259 --> 01:12:13,789 and he certainly is one. 1178 01:12:13,791 --> 01:12:15,689 You see, what I like about Cecil, 1179 01:12:15,691 --> 01:12:19,357 he's got a great deal of the outrageous in him. 1180 01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:21,257 He likes all the limits, doesn't he? 1181 01:12:21,259 --> 01:12:23,657 Well, he certainly goes to extremes. 1182 01:12:23,659 --> 01:12:25,423 - Yes. - He can be extremely kind 1183 01:12:25,425 --> 01:12:26,923 or extremely rude. 1184 01:12:26,925 --> 01:12:30,222 He can be the rudest person I've ever known. 1185 01:12:30,224 --> 01:12:32,556 Yes, and he picks his enemies beautifully, doesn't he? 1186 01:12:32,558 --> 01:12:36,257 Mm? He knows what he's doing when he's doing those things. 1187 01:12:36,259 --> 01:12:37,689 I wonder, though, really, 1188 01:12:37,691 --> 01:12:40,222 I mean, he certainly gathers enemies 1189 01:12:40,224 --> 01:12:41,924 like other people gather roses. 1190 01:12:41,926 --> 01:12:43,824 - That's right. - I'm not so sure 1191 01:12:43,826 --> 01:12:45,556 that he picks them well. 1192 01:12:45,558 --> 01:12:48,156 But he's very positive, he's not a negative person. 1193 01:12:48,158 --> 01:12:49,690 He loves, it's very easy for him to love. 1194 01:12:49,692 --> 01:12:53,690 Well, he positively loves you or he positively hates you. 1195 01:12:53,692 --> 01:12:57,356 Are there any close friends from either school or Cambridge 1196 01:12:57,358 --> 01:12:58,923 that you've carried right the way through with you 1197 01:12:58,925 --> 01:13:01,156 and are still close friends today? 1198 01:13:01,158 --> 01:13:02,757 Yes. 1199 01:13:02,759 --> 01:13:04,756 Um, enemies? 1200 01:13:04,758 --> 01:13:07,157 Yes. 1201 01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:09,293 No names, I suppose, no (UNINTELLIGIBLE)? 1202 01:13:10,859 --> 01:13:12,724 Uh, I don't mind giving a few names 1203 01:13:12,726 --> 01:13:14,156 - if you want. - Tell me a few names 1204 01:13:14,158 --> 01:13:15,257 of friends and enemies 1205 01:13:15,259 --> 01:13:17,556 who've been with you all the time. 1206 01:13:17,558 --> 01:13:20,289 Well, um... 1207 01:13:20,291 --> 01:13:24,222 Evelyn Waugh, uh, is my enemy. 1208 01:13:24,224 --> 01:13:27,490 We dislike one another intensely. 1209 01:13:27,492 --> 01:13:31,256 He thinks that I'm a nasty piece of goods, 1210 01:13:31,258 --> 01:13:34,157 and, oh, brother, I feel the same way about him. 1211 01:13:36,492 --> 01:13:38,289 "As for Noël Coward, 1212 01:13:38,291 --> 01:13:41,423 I admire everything about his work. 1213 01:13:41,425 --> 01:13:43,157 Why then have I hated him?" 1214 01:13:44,293 --> 01:13:47,556 "Perhaps I was envious of the success of his career." 1215 01:13:50,425 --> 01:13:52,823 "I've always despised the Burtons 1216 01:13:52,825 --> 01:13:54,689 for their vulgarity, commonness, 1217 01:13:54,691 --> 01:13:57,422 and crass bad taste. 1218 01:13:57,424 --> 01:13:59,624 Richard Burton is as butch and coarse 1219 01:13:59,626 --> 01:14:01,556 as only a Welshman can be." 1220 01:14:02,525 --> 01:14:06,290 "Elizabeth Taylor is everything I dislike, 1221 01:14:06,292 --> 01:14:09,556 combining the worst of American and English taste." 1222 01:14:12,258 --> 01:14:15,724 "Katharine Hepburn's appearance is appalling. 1223 01:14:15,726 --> 01:14:20,223 A freckled, burned, mottled, bleached, and wizened piece 1224 01:14:20,225 --> 01:14:22,423 of decaying matter. 1225 01:14:22,425 --> 01:14:27,289 She has no generosity, no heart, no grace. 1226 01:14:27,291 --> 01:14:29,157 She's a dried up boot." 1227 01:14:32,558 --> 01:14:33,857 Oh, yes, I can hate. 1228 01:14:33,859 --> 01:14:36,257 I can hate unreasonably. 1229 01:14:36,259 --> 01:14:38,490 I mean, I'm very conscious of that. 1230 01:14:38,492 --> 01:14:40,457 And then a lot of the time I feel, 1231 01:14:40,459 --> 01:14:42,556 well, I'm only doing it just for a gag, 1232 01:14:42,558 --> 01:14:44,322 that I really don't hate this person, 1233 01:14:44,324 --> 01:14:46,489 that it's just a sort of game 1234 01:14:46,491 --> 01:14:48,456 I'm playing with myself about them, 1235 01:14:48,458 --> 01:14:50,222 but clearly they're not too bad. 1236 01:14:50,224 --> 01:14:53,289 But I take a line about certain people and stick to it. 1237 01:14:54,925 --> 01:14:57,924 I think he could be very disapproving. 1238 01:14:57,926 --> 01:15:01,589 You'd suddenly see a little flash of... 1239 01:15:01,591 --> 01:15:03,257 bitchiness. 1240 01:15:03,259 --> 01:15:06,557 There's a way the English have of being rude in a nice way 1241 01:15:06,559 --> 01:15:08,823 where you actually quite like them being rude to you. 1242 01:15:08,825 --> 01:15:11,557 And Cecil didn't have that rudeness, he just had rudeness. 1243 01:15:15,292 --> 01:15:18,689 I actually really loved Cecil. 1244 01:15:18,691 --> 01:15:21,422 I had a huge soft spot for him. 1245 01:15:21,424 --> 01:15:26,556 I think that was something to do with his melancholy side. 1246 01:15:26,558 --> 01:15:28,824 He never gave the impression of being a happy person, 1247 01:15:28,826 --> 01:15:30,524 although he had a lot of humor 1248 01:15:30,526 --> 01:15:34,623 and he was... he engaged with people very, very easily. 1249 01:15:34,625 --> 01:15:37,523 I think that probably love, or the lack of love, 1250 01:15:37,525 --> 01:15:39,489 was an enormous part of his life. 1251 01:15:39,491 --> 01:15:42,389 Maybe he didn't open his heart very much. 1252 01:15:42,391 --> 01:15:44,924 He was very hard to read, 1253 01:15:44,926 --> 01:15:46,857 and I think like probably 1254 01:15:46,859 --> 01:15:49,724 most interesting people in the world, 1255 01:15:49,726 --> 01:15:53,724 he was just this sort of mass of contradictions. 1256 01:15:53,726 --> 01:15:55,357 Let's face it, he was two faced. 1257 01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:58,689 I remember one weekend I was staying with Cecil Beaton 1258 01:15:58,691 --> 01:16:01,289 and he spotted this woman outside the door and he said, 1259 01:16:01,291 --> 01:16:03,256 "Oh, it's that fucking woman!" 1260 01:16:03,258 --> 01:16:05,289 Opening the door, "Mary, darling, 1261 01:16:05,291 --> 01:16:06,823 it's so wonderful to see you." 1262 01:16:06,825 --> 01:16:08,624 That got him in one. 1263 01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:15,923 Supposing you had to judge yourself from your diaries, 1264 01:16:15,925 --> 01:16:19,556 what sort of man do you think you'd find there? 1265 01:16:19,558 --> 01:16:21,689 Were you a bit shocked when you looked back 1266 01:16:21,691 --> 01:16:23,824 on the early ones? 1267 01:16:23,826 --> 01:16:28,489 Um, I really looked upon them from a technical point of view. 1268 01:16:28,491 --> 01:16:32,422 I came across this hoard and I started reading them, 1269 01:16:32,424 --> 01:16:38,790 and I was appalled by the person that was revealed there. 1270 01:16:38,792 --> 01:16:42,323 But suddenly, there would be a little patch 1271 01:16:42,325 --> 01:16:45,156 that I thought had great vitality, 1272 01:16:45,158 --> 01:16:47,724 that still seemed to... 1273 01:16:47,726 --> 01:16:49,289 be valid, 1274 01:16:49,291 --> 01:16:53,156 and so I collected them together. 1275 01:16:53,158 --> 01:16:57,523 And even if I came out of them in a pretty unbecoming light, 1276 01:16:57,525 --> 01:16:59,156 and I thought they were interesting, 1277 01:16:59,158 --> 01:17:00,689 then I let them go in. 1278 01:17:00,691 --> 01:17:02,824 Of course the most notorious example of that 1279 01:17:02,826 --> 01:17:04,524 was when he published his diaries 1280 01:17:04,526 --> 01:17:06,156 about the affair with Greta Garbo, 1281 01:17:06,158 --> 01:17:08,590 because he thought it was a very important part of his life 1282 01:17:08,592 --> 01:17:09,823 and it couldn't be ignored. 1283 01:17:09,825 --> 01:17:11,557 Well, she was a very, very private person, 1284 01:17:11,559 --> 01:17:14,157 and that did not go down well either with her 1285 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:15,723 or with a great number of other people 1286 01:17:15,725 --> 01:17:19,256 who considered that he had not behaved like a gentleman. 1287 01:17:19,258 --> 01:17:22,856 I do find that my opinion changes very much 1288 01:17:22,858 --> 01:17:24,456 as time goes by, 1289 01:17:24,458 --> 01:17:26,457 and I'm always sort of reconsidering, 1290 01:17:26,459 --> 01:17:30,156 and I think perhaps I've been much too outspoken 1291 01:17:30,158 --> 01:17:31,789 on rather trivial subjects. 1292 01:17:34,658 --> 01:17:37,357 That's marvelous, Penelope, just like that. 1293 01:17:37,359 --> 01:17:39,457 Good, your fingers straighter. 1294 01:17:39,459 --> 01:17:40,689 And head a bit higher. 1295 01:17:40,691 --> 01:17:42,624 That's right, now then will you follow me? 1296 01:17:47,458 --> 01:17:50,823 I want you to look ecstatic, you must be inspired. 1297 01:17:50,825 --> 01:17:53,457 Don't smile, no, very serious. 1298 01:18:15,424 --> 01:18:17,790 Jolly good, jolly well done. 1299 01:18:17,792 --> 01:18:20,922 I think you're absolutely super. 1300 01:18:20,924 --> 01:18:24,556 I was with David Bailey when he decided to do a documentary 1301 01:18:24,558 --> 01:18:25,756 on Cecil Beaton. 1302 01:18:28,759 --> 01:18:30,889 You know, I didn't like him, Cecil. 1303 01:18:30,891 --> 01:18:32,423 He was such a snob. 1304 01:18:32,425 --> 01:18:34,724 But I thought he was a great photographer 1305 01:18:34,726 --> 01:18:36,757 and a great designer. 1306 01:18:36,759 --> 01:18:38,789 That's absolutely marvelous. 1307 01:18:38,791 --> 01:18:40,557 - Precioso. - Oh... 1308 01:18:40,559 --> 01:18:43,790 Cecil was very patient with Bailey, 1309 01:18:43,792 --> 01:18:47,422 but I think that Beaton absolutely loathed Bailey. 1310 01:18:47,424 --> 01:18:49,290 - All right? - No. 1311 01:18:49,292 --> 01:18:52,223 In a way, you have to sort of get the person in the film 1312 01:18:52,225 --> 01:18:53,423 when you're making a film about them. 1313 01:18:53,425 --> 01:18:55,823 - Thank you. - Good, and walk towards me. 1314 01:18:55,825 --> 01:18:56,956 - Walk towards you? - Yeah. 1315 01:18:56,958 --> 01:19:00,222 Drag them in, in a way, even if you have to annoy them. 1316 01:19:00,224 --> 01:19:01,889 - Good. - That's right. 1317 01:19:01,891 --> 01:19:04,788 "Bailey, your film is entertaining 1318 01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:07,290 and is of good value. 1319 01:19:07,292 --> 01:19:09,724 But it is not a good film. 1320 01:19:09,726 --> 01:19:13,556 It is inconclusive and superficial." 1321 01:19:13,558 --> 01:19:15,290 Well, I got him then, didn't I? 1322 01:19:19,424 --> 01:19:22,422 Right on the head, maybe it's too close to home, Cecil, 1323 01:19:22,424 --> 01:19:25,423 if you're listening up there with God, 1324 01:19:25,425 --> 01:19:27,822 decorating His front room. 1325 01:19:31,825 --> 01:19:34,624 A lot of people just dismissed, 1326 01:19:34,626 --> 01:19:37,389 you know, younger successful people 1327 01:19:37,391 --> 01:19:41,623 as being flash in the pans or pop culture, 1328 01:19:41,625 --> 01:19:45,390 but Cecil, you know, he knew what talent was, 1329 01:19:45,392 --> 01:19:48,690 and he... you know, he followed that. 1330 01:19:48,692 --> 01:19:52,788 He was photographing the great modern artists 1331 01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:54,422 of the post-war years. 1332 01:19:54,424 --> 01:19:59,623 Bacon and Freud and Gilbert & George. 1333 01:19:59,625 --> 01:20:02,323 Well, he loved anything, anything new. 1334 01:20:02,325 --> 01:20:04,290 Loved youth. 1335 01:20:04,292 --> 01:20:07,788 Good, uh, just lean forward like that awful advertisement, 1336 01:20:07,790 --> 01:20:10,423 "Your cigarette, sir." 1337 01:20:11,591 --> 01:20:14,523 He came in the Royal College of Art 1338 01:20:14,525 --> 01:20:16,788 when I was a student. 1339 01:20:17,925 --> 01:20:20,623 I knew he was an old queen. 1340 01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:24,524 I knew a few things about him. 1341 01:20:25,526 --> 01:20:30,256 Then he told me he wanted to buy this painting. 1342 01:20:30,258 --> 01:20:32,756 He offered me 40 pounds for it, 1343 01:20:32,758 --> 01:20:38,356 which I'd never had 40 pounds for a painting before. 1344 01:20:38,358 --> 01:20:44,688 And so I used that money to come to America the first time, yeah. 1345 01:20:44,690 --> 01:20:46,823 Look out of the false window. 1346 01:20:46,825 --> 01:20:49,189 "It staggers me how this young man 1347 01:20:49,191 --> 01:20:51,556 can be so at home in the world. 1348 01:20:51,558 --> 01:20:55,788 He has the golden quality of being able to enjoy life." 1349 01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:56,855 Scintillating. 1350 01:20:56,857 --> 01:20:58,889 "He is never blasé, 1351 01:20:58,891 --> 01:21:01,657 never takes anything for granted. 1352 01:21:01,659 --> 01:21:04,557 Life is a delightful wonderland for him." 1353 01:21:04,559 --> 01:21:06,656 And then just look at me. That's right. 1354 01:21:06,658 --> 01:21:09,922 I mean, I did get to know him quite well. 1355 01:21:09,924 --> 01:21:11,789 I had to sketch him for Vogue, 1356 01:21:11,791 --> 01:21:14,723 and he photographed me. 1357 01:21:14,725 --> 01:21:17,756 So the drawings took a long time. 1358 01:21:17,758 --> 01:21:21,856 I remember if he liked the drawing, I didn't. 1359 01:21:21,858 --> 01:21:24,656 If I liked the drawing, he didn't. 1360 01:21:25,824 --> 01:21:27,656 He never really rested. 1361 01:21:27,658 --> 01:21:29,557 I don't see how he did everything 1362 01:21:29,559 --> 01:21:31,422 and went out every night. 1363 01:21:31,424 --> 01:21:34,290 It's extraordinary how much he got done. 1364 01:21:36,424 --> 01:21:41,189 "I have always complimented myself on my stamina, 1365 01:21:41,191 --> 01:21:43,557 and can wear out even my younger friends 1366 01:21:43,559 --> 01:21:45,756 when it comes to work or play." 1367 01:21:48,324 --> 01:21:49,756 "I can still think of myself 1368 01:21:49,758 --> 01:21:53,289 as a rather appealing bright young thing." 1369 01:21:53,291 --> 01:21:55,755 Look at Hockney, you see he's giggling away. 1370 01:21:55,757 --> 01:21:57,289 I love his green shirt. 1371 01:21:57,291 --> 01:21:59,822 I went to Cecil's parties. 1372 01:21:59,824 --> 01:22:01,557 Get him out of here. 1373 01:22:01,559 --> 01:22:05,256 I mean, I met all kinds of people there. 1374 01:22:05,258 --> 01:22:07,489 I met Vivien Leigh there, 1375 01:22:07,491 --> 01:22:09,322 Laurence Olivier, 1376 01:22:09,324 --> 01:22:12,157 loads of film people. 1377 01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:16,556 That's where I met Mick Jagger, at Cecil Beaton's. 1378 01:22:22,292 --> 01:22:26,723 I first met Cecil Beaton in part of Morocco 1379 01:22:26,725 --> 01:22:30,788 which was little known then. 1380 01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:32,688 I was walking in the medina one day 1381 01:22:32,690 --> 01:22:37,190 and I saw this beautiful figure clad all in a white suit 1382 01:22:37,192 --> 01:22:39,289 and a beautiful fedora hat. 1383 01:22:39,291 --> 01:22:40,622 It was very nice. 1384 01:22:40,624 --> 01:22:42,156 Take some nice pictures. 1385 01:22:47,224 --> 01:22:49,357 "Mick Jagger is sexy, 1386 01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:52,356 yet completely sexless. 1387 01:22:52,358 --> 01:22:54,556 He is beautiful and ugly, 1388 01:22:54,558 --> 01:22:56,689 feminine and masculine. 1389 01:22:56,691 --> 01:22:59,389 A rare phenomenon." 1390 01:22:59,391 --> 01:23:01,157 Cecil Beaton had a knack 1391 01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:03,423 of always being in the right place at the right time. 1392 01:23:03,425 --> 01:23:06,289 You know, he wasn't having a siesta in the hotel 1393 01:23:06,291 --> 01:23:07,589 when the Rolling Stones came by, 1394 01:23:07,591 --> 01:23:09,788 he was out there and he saw them 1395 01:23:09,790 --> 01:23:12,556 and he took their pictures by the pool. 1396 01:23:12,558 --> 01:23:14,422 Terribly good of Andy Warhol. 1397 01:23:14,424 --> 01:23:16,290 I like that one the most. 1398 01:23:16,292 --> 01:23:18,655 He continually embraced what was exciting and new 1399 01:23:18,657 --> 01:23:21,423 and modern and happening and of the moment 1400 01:23:21,425 --> 01:23:25,389 and up to the minute and with it and swinging and hip. 1401 01:23:25,391 --> 01:23:27,289 Delightful. 1402 01:23:27,291 --> 01:23:29,290 The mind boggles to think what he could have made 1403 01:23:29,292 --> 01:23:34,589 of today's internet, Instagram, selfie world. 1404 01:23:34,591 --> 01:23:39,856 I'd love to see a Beaton portrait of Kim Kardashian, 1405 01:23:39,858 --> 01:23:43,223 and I'd particularly like to read the diary entry. 1406 01:23:50,691 --> 01:23:54,156 "I come down to the country by the earliest train possible." 1407 01:23:56,891 --> 01:24:00,688 "The landscape is everything I love, 1408 01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:03,655 with dry grasses in the hedges 1409 01:24:03,657 --> 01:24:06,223 and all the cottage gardens ablaze." 1410 01:24:14,824 --> 01:24:17,390 When you found the real Cecil, 1411 01:24:17,392 --> 01:24:20,156 it was delightful. 1412 01:24:20,158 --> 01:24:22,889 The real Cecil would come out when he was home at Reddish, 1413 01:24:22,891 --> 01:24:27,622 in the garden with his old garden clothes on. 1414 01:24:27,624 --> 01:24:29,289 He was happy. 1415 01:24:29,291 --> 01:24:32,522 There was no grandeur. 1416 01:24:32,524 --> 01:24:34,855 He really was himself, 1417 01:24:34,857 --> 01:24:36,656 which was very nice to see. 1418 01:24:38,425 --> 01:24:39,555 Here's my little cat. 1419 01:24:39,557 --> 01:24:42,922 He likes very much staying in the herbaceous border. 1420 01:24:42,924 --> 01:24:45,488 I wonder if I might be able to get you. 1421 01:24:45,490 --> 01:24:47,222 Come on, Timothy, yeah. 1422 01:24:47,224 --> 01:24:50,423 Oh, I'm so pleased to see a nice cat. 1423 01:24:52,291 --> 01:24:54,157 Timothy White. 1424 01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,655 Timothy White. 1425 01:24:56,657 --> 01:25:01,156 I have no plans for settling down at all. 1426 01:25:01,158 --> 01:25:04,890 I think my idea of a peaceful old age 1427 01:25:04,892 --> 01:25:09,356 is continuing to experiment and develop 1428 01:25:09,358 --> 01:25:13,422 and tackle each new hurdle as it comes along. 1429 01:25:17,292 --> 01:25:19,156 London's National Portrait Gallery 1430 01:25:19,158 --> 01:25:22,190 is paying an unprecedented compliment to Cecil Beaton 1431 01:25:22,192 --> 01:25:25,223 with an exhibition of 700 of his portrait photographs. 1432 01:25:26,657 --> 01:25:30,223 It was a landmark show. 1433 01:25:30,225 --> 01:25:32,555 It put Beaton back in the limelight. 1434 01:25:32,557 --> 01:25:34,189 It put the National Portrait Gallery, 1435 01:25:34,191 --> 01:25:38,256 up until then thought of as the dowdiest gallery in London, 1436 01:25:38,258 --> 01:25:41,555 at the height of glamour and excitement. 1437 01:25:41,557 --> 01:25:45,689 And no national collection had ever staged 1438 01:25:45,691 --> 01:25:48,388 an exhibition of a living photographer. 1439 01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:51,822 So it put photography on the map as never before. 1440 01:25:57,625 --> 01:25:59,456 "Barbra Streisand. 1441 01:25:59,458 --> 01:26:00,889 She has star quality. 1442 01:26:00,891 --> 01:26:02,556 She's a natural. 1443 01:26:02,558 --> 01:26:05,256 She is above all else intelligent. 1444 01:26:05,258 --> 01:26:08,655 Her brain works so clearly, so healthily, 1445 01:26:08,657 --> 01:26:10,189 she could be a lawyer." 1446 01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:13,788 Would you have liked your life all to be different? 1447 01:26:13,790 --> 01:26:14,923 Very different, yes. 1448 01:26:16,059 --> 01:26:23,421 I think that I wish that I were able to dig down deeper. 1449 01:26:24,625 --> 01:26:27,822 I think that I relied on my instinct 1450 01:26:27,824 --> 01:26:31,688 and tried to perfect my inner sense of reality, 1451 01:26:31,690 --> 01:26:34,156 but I don't think that I have made 1452 01:26:34,158 --> 01:26:38,190 an intellectual enough approach 1453 01:26:38,192 --> 01:26:41,755 to my work and my life. 1454 01:26:42,757 --> 01:26:45,822 And the winner is Cecil Beaton for Coco. 1455 01:26:53,591 --> 01:26:55,522 This is simply spiffy. 1456 01:26:58,191 --> 01:27:00,290 I'm very lucky to get this. 1457 01:27:00,292 --> 01:27:03,290 I'm lucky because I don't think any other designer 1458 01:27:03,292 --> 01:27:06,823 has ever had such a marvelous inspiration to work to 1459 01:27:06,825 --> 01:27:09,556 as Mademoiselle Coco Chanel. 1460 01:27:14,558 --> 01:27:17,289 Beaton's relationship with the V&A Museum 1461 01:27:17,291 --> 01:27:21,822 began when he was invited to stage an exhibition 1462 01:27:21,824 --> 01:27:25,223 called Fashion: An Anthology. 1463 01:27:25,225 --> 01:27:26,455 It was a huge success. 1464 01:27:26,457 --> 01:27:28,389 It was wildly popular. 1465 01:27:28,391 --> 01:27:31,556 And it included garments and clothing 1466 01:27:31,558 --> 01:27:34,923 from virtually everyone Cecil Beaton knew. 1467 01:27:38,490 --> 01:27:41,756 Cecil got a CBE in 1957. 1468 01:27:41,758 --> 01:27:44,723 That's Companion of the Order of the British Empire. 1469 01:27:44,725 --> 01:27:47,889 And for a long time he wasn't knighted. 1470 01:27:47,891 --> 01:27:50,855 But what he actually said when he did get knighted finally 1471 01:27:50,857 --> 01:27:53,589 in 1972 was, 1472 01:27:53,591 --> 01:27:55,421 "Oh, it's practically posthumous." 1473 01:27:57,524 --> 01:28:00,157 Good, and the hands, give it a little more sort of... 1474 01:28:01,658 --> 01:28:02,889 "As the years pass, 1475 01:28:02,891 --> 01:28:06,556 I have found that I must work harder than ever I did before." 1476 01:28:06,558 --> 01:28:08,788 It's good, it's very nice. 1477 01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:12,655 "The whole problem of the future is one of anxiety." 1478 01:28:27,691 --> 01:28:31,157 After a very intense working career, 1479 01:28:31,159 --> 01:28:33,356 Beaton suffered his stroke. 1480 01:28:33,358 --> 01:28:35,156 He was greatly debilitated. 1481 01:28:35,158 --> 01:28:37,589 He was paralyzed down his right side 1482 01:28:37,591 --> 01:28:42,289 and he never really got the use of his right hand back. 1483 01:28:44,223 --> 01:28:45,523 Worst of all perhaps for him 1484 01:28:45,525 --> 01:28:48,623 is that he lost his particular elegance, 1485 01:28:48,625 --> 01:28:50,421 and that he resented very much, 1486 01:28:50,423 --> 01:28:52,756 and he was very, very, very depressed. 1487 01:28:57,158 --> 01:29:00,722 "It is awful how easily I weep. 1488 01:29:00,724 --> 01:29:03,157 Why have I not any self control?" 1489 01:29:04,824 --> 01:29:08,255 "Suddenly I realized I was appalled 1490 01:29:08,257 --> 01:29:10,422 by the sadness of life." 1491 01:29:12,591 --> 01:29:15,623 "I was weeping for my own lost youth, 1492 01:29:15,625 --> 01:29:18,755 and I was weeping for the dead people I had loved. 1493 01:29:18,757 --> 01:29:20,788 My mother and my brother 1494 01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:23,422 and all who had been part of my childhood." 1495 01:29:28,457 --> 01:29:32,321 "Why should I feel sad about the passing of so much 1496 01:29:32,323 --> 01:29:35,688 rather than gratitude that so much has been fitted into life?" 1497 01:29:45,358 --> 01:29:49,222 He was on this endless quest for something, 1498 01:29:49,224 --> 01:29:50,556 not immortality 1499 01:29:50,558 --> 01:29:53,455 but to achieve something that he was proud of. 1500 01:29:55,324 --> 01:29:57,156 But I feel in some kind of way 1501 01:29:57,158 --> 01:30:00,288 that none of the things he did really satisfied him. 1502 01:30:01,591 --> 01:30:04,322 I don't think he thought that he really... 1503 01:30:04,324 --> 01:30:05,421 was all he could have been. 1504 01:30:08,223 --> 01:30:11,856 He was so much more interesting and so much more curious, 1505 01:30:11,858 --> 01:30:15,923 and so much more complex as a person. 1506 01:30:15,925 --> 01:30:21,388 But I think that complexity he had is what artists have. 1507 01:30:22,558 --> 01:30:25,688 It's not... it's not for the ordinary. 1508 01:30:30,224 --> 01:30:32,322 He gave up writing diaries 1509 01:30:32,324 --> 01:30:35,655 when he had this bad stroke in 1974, 1510 01:30:35,657 --> 01:30:38,822 but there was actually a post-stroke diary as well, 1511 01:30:38,824 --> 01:30:42,289 because when I went to see Cecil and Eileen, his secretary, 1512 01:30:42,291 --> 01:30:45,421 they told me that they'd had this terrible drama 1513 01:30:45,423 --> 01:30:48,321 because the cat, Timothy, after 17 years 1514 01:30:48,323 --> 01:30:50,421 had had to be put to sleep. 1515 01:30:51,390 --> 01:30:54,689 And when I actually got my hands on the diary, 1516 01:30:54,691 --> 01:30:57,321 the last thing Cecil Beaton ever wrote was, 1517 01:30:57,323 --> 01:30:59,855 "So Timothy has passed through to oblivion. 1518 01:30:59,857 --> 01:31:01,722 Is he perhaps the lucky one?" 1519 01:31:02,825 --> 01:31:05,289 And exactly a week later, 1520 01:31:05,291 --> 01:31:07,355 he himself got flustered in the night 1521 01:31:07,357 --> 01:31:08,555 and out he went. 1522 01:31:16,624 --> 01:31:18,489 Cecil Beaton died at Reddish House 1523 01:31:18,491 --> 01:31:21,288 on the 18th of January 1980. 1524 01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:24,155 There were three photographs in his room when he died. 1525 01:31:24,157 --> 01:31:26,755 One was of Peter Watson, one was of Kin Hoitsma, 1526 01:31:26,757 --> 01:31:27,790 and one was of Greta Garbo. 1527 01:31:27,792 --> 01:31:30,421 Those were the three people that he considered 1528 01:31:30,423 --> 01:31:32,188 the great loves of his life. 1529 01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:41,155 I was sad for him 1530 01:31:41,157 --> 01:31:43,689 because I know he would have hated dying. 1531 01:31:45,591 --> 01:31:47,523 He loved life too much, 1532 01:31:47,525 --> 01:31:50,588 and it would... he would have felt he was missing something 1533 01:31:50,590 --> 01:31:51,756 by being dead. 1534 01:32:04,290 --> 01:32:09,556 His life was about living for the wondrous, 1535 01:32:09,558 --> 01:32:11,755 living for beauty, 1536 01:32:11,757 --> 01:32:15,855 rejecting the banal, rejecting the commonplace, 1537 01:32:15,857 --> 01:32:19,622 and believing that you can create a life, 1538 01:32:19,624 --> 01:32:22,855 you can create a personality, you can create a world 1539 01:32:22,857 --> 01:32:24,788 for yourself and those around you. 1540 01:32:30,757 --> 01:32:35,455 No one has had the ability to wave the wand 1541 01:32:35,457 --> 01:32:39,222 and scatter the magic over somebody like Cecil Beaton. 1542 01:32:45,157 --> 01:32:49,556 He was uniquely connected to so many different worlds, 1543 01:32:49,558 --> 01:32:54,256 and it's always fascinating having his perspective. 1544 01:32:56,725 --> 01:33:00,822 The pointed observation that someone else might have missed. 1545 01:33:03,223 --> 01:33:07,756 It's very interesting to get the unvarnished truth sometimes. 1546 01:33:09,557 --> 01:33:13,822 And I think he could always be relied upon to furnish that, 1547 01:33:13,824 --> 01:33:18,421 you know, even in his most private writings. 1548 01:33:25,491 --> 01:33:28,155 "If I knew anyone had read this, 1549 01:33:28,157 --> 01:33:29,689 I'd almost go mad." 1550 01:33:31,358 --> 01:33:33,588 "And yet I feel I had to write it." 1551 01:33:35,658 --> 01:33:38,823 "Perhaps I have digressed in life. 1552 01:33:38,825 --> 01:33:41,422 But what if one doesn't want to specialize?" 1553 01:33:45,323 --> 01:33:47,321 "Be daring." 1554 01:33:48,591 --> 01:33:49,589 "Be different." 1555 01:33:51,291 --> 01:33:52,389 "Be impractical." 1556 01:33:54,158 --> 01:33:59,422 "Be anything that will assert integrity of purpose 1557 01:33:59,424 --> 01:34:03,488 and imaginative vision against the play-it-safers, 1558 01:34:03,490 --> 01:34:05,489 the slaves of the ordinary." 1559 01:34:12,791 --> 01:34:15,288 "What if one is a dreamer?" 1560 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,322 Subtitles by explosiveskull