1 00:00:24,358 --> 00:00:26,401 The Net of Indra, 2 00:00:26,485 --> 00:00:31,114 the metaphor of Indra's jeweled net asks us to envision a vast net 3 00:00:31,198 --> 00:00:34,159 that, at each juncture there lies a jewel, 4 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:39,206 each jewel reflects all the other jewels in this cosmic matrix. 5 00:00:39,748 --> 00:00:43,085 Every jewel represents an individual life form, 6 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:46,588 atom, cell, or unit of consciousness. 7 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:48,924 Each jewel, in turn, 8 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:53,178 is intrinsically and intimately connected to all the others. 9 00:00:53,637 --> 00:00:58,767 Thus, a change in one gem is reflected in all the others. 10 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:08,068 Hundreds of thousands of people have died unnecessary deaths. 11 00:01:08,151 --> 00:01:09,528 The question is, why? 12 00:01:17,536 --> 00:01:22,666 Most of what I treat in my office is chronic disease. 13 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:49,735 We are living in an environment. 14 00:01:49,818 --> 00:01:52,321 Our bodies are ill-prepared for a lot of disease results, 15 00:01:52,404 --> 00:01:55,449 probably about half of disease you see in the hospitals 16 00:01:55,532 --> 00:01:58,201 is due to living in an environment we're not prepared for. 17 00:01:58,285 --> 00:02:00,245 But perhaps the most startling part 18 00:02:00,329 --> 00:02:03,415 is that many of these chronic diseases could have been prevented. 19 00:02:03,832 --> 00:02:06,710 Chronic disease is all the ailments 20 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:10,213 from heart disease to diabetes, to depression, 21 00:02:10,589 --> 00:02:14,176 that are just chipping away at our quality of life. 22 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:34,029 Make rounds in a modern hospital 23 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:35,947 with me in the medical ward sometime, 24 00:02:36,031 --> 00:02:38,575 and just make a note of each patient as you go through. 25 00:02:38,659 --> 00:02:41,161 Which of these patients would actually be there 26 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:43,413 if they had lived in the natural environment 27 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:45,123 compared with our modern environment? 28 00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:47,584 These chronic diseases seem to be moving 29 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:50,045 ever further down in the age bracket 30 00:02:50,128 --> 00:02:52,506 to the point where I am seeing more and more children 31 00:02:52,589 --> 00:02:55,842 with diabetes and heart disease, morbid obesity. 32 00:02:55,926 --> 00:02:57,803 Experts call it "Diabesity." 33 00:02:57,886 --> 00:03:01,139 Over the past decade childhood cases of type 2 diabetes 34 00:03:01,223 --> 00:03:04,935 have increased ten-fold because of rising rates of obesity. 35 00:03:05,102 --> 00:03:07,396 The immune systems in modern people, 36 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,691 specifically in the developed rich countries, are trigger happy. 37 00:03:10,774 --> 00:03:13,276 They are doing crazy things, attacking their own tissues, 38 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,071 like attacking the brain, so then you have multiple sclerosis. 39 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:18,365 All of these are situations where the immune system 40 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:20,909 is doing things it should not be doing, 41 00:03:20,992 --> 00:03:24,121 and in developing countries it doesn't do these things. 42 00:03:24,203 --> 00:03:28,041 So something has changed in the rich developed countries 43 00:03:28,125 --> 00:03:31,628 which is causing our immune systems to lose the control mechanisms 44 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:34,339 that normally stop them from behaving irresponsibly. 45 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:50,731 The medical profession is now actually the third 46 00:03:50,814 --> 00:03:53,442 leading cause of death in the United States. 47 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:56,278 People didn't understand why when we get antibiotics 48 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:57,946 it causes many problems. 49 00:03:58,029 --> 00:04:01,658 Not only that, but each cell in our body has mitochondria 50 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:03,910 that has been before bacteria. 51 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:07,205 So bacteria is the fabric of all the living systems. 52 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:10,250 So we did so many mistakes on our gut bacteria. 53 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,669 As we have less and less infectious disease, 54 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:14,463 we have more and more chronic disease, 55 00:04:14,546 --> 00:04:17,549 but even conditions like multiple sclerosis and depression, 56 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:20,010 in our thought, had some microbial involvement. 57 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,679 And so it may be, as we have conquered infectious disease, 58 00:04:22,763 --> 00:04:24,681 some of the strategies like antibiotics 59 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:27,309 have been either eliminating beneficial microbes 60 00:04:27,392 --> 00:04:29,519 or providing the growth of harmful microbes 61 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:31,646 that are contributing to these chronic diseases 62 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:33,774 in ways that we're just beginning to understand. 63 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:36,485 Most of it relates back to our lifestyle. 64 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:38,320 So to the foods that we're eating, 65 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:41,364 the highly processed foods with lots of sugar 66 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:43,450 and very low nutrient, 67 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:46,369 to the fact that we experience a huge amount of stress 68 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:48,872 and that we're disconnected from our communities. 69 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:51,082 I am starting to discover also to the fact 70 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:53,543 that we're disconnected from the natural world. 71 00:04:53,877 --> 00:04:56,797 We're gradually killing ourselves off. 72 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,634 People have to start realizing that we're all connected, 73 00:05:01,009 --> 00:05:03,970 I mean, including the creatures of the earth, 74 00:05:04,054 --> 00:05:07,057 including the plants, the land, 75 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:10,936 at some point it will come back and bite us 76 00:05:11,019 --> 00:05:13,855 if we don't start changing our ways. 77 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:15,941 Actually it's starting to bite us already. 78 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:19,861 I love to garden without gloves. 79 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:22,197 My name is Dr. Daphne Miller 80 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,951 and I am a family doctor and a nutrition explorer. 81 00:05:27,202 --> 00:05:31,206 And I feel like I wear gloves enough in my medical practice, 82 00:05:31,289 --> 00:05:34,084 and why should I have to wear them in my garden 83 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:37,128 where everything is so wonderful 84 00:05:37,212 --> 00:05:41,299 and where there are the kind of microbes that I want to be connected to, so... 85 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:01,486 "Agroecology is the science that provides 86 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:03,947 the basic ecological principles 87 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:07,659 for how to study, design, and manage agrosystems 88 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:11,329 that are both productive and natural resource-conservative 89 00:06:11,413 --> 00:06:16,793 and that are culturally-sensitive, socially-just, and economically viable." 90 00:06:18,545 --> 00:06:20,755 We can get behind that, right? 91 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,925 "Agroecology goes beyond a one-dimensional view 92 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:25,594 of agroecosystems. 93 00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:29,097 At the heart of the agroecology strategy is the idea 94 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:32,684 that an agroecosystem should mimic the functioning 95 00:06:32,767 --> 00:06:34,978 of local ecosystems." 96 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:37,856 But the word "health" has not come up once yet. 97 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:40,483 "The key agroecological strategy 98 00:06:40,567 --> 00:06:43,194 in designing a sustainable agricultural 99 00:06:43,278 --> 00:06:45,280 is to reincorporate diversity 100 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:48,658 into the agricultural fields and surrounding landscapes." 101 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:50,452 How about human health? 102 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:56,291 No health here, okay. 103 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,550 I am pleased to introduce our next speaker, 104 00:07:05,634 --> 00:07:07,052 Miss Daphne Miller. 105 00:07:07,135 --> 00:07:10,221 She will be talking about diverse farming system, 106 00:07:10,305 --> 00:07:11,305 diverse diets. 107 00:07:11,681 --> 00:07:14,059 She is a family physician, a writer, 108 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:18,104 and associate professor in the Department of Family Medicine 109 00:07:18,188 --> 00:07:20,357 at the University of California, San Francisco. 110 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,234 I wanted also to add this sentence which I like myself, 111 00:07:23,318 --> 00:07:26,029 Miss Miller approaches medicine with idea 112 00:07:26,363 --> 00:07:28,990 that opportunities for health and healing 113 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:31,868 are found not only in the medical system, 114 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:36,748 but in such unexpected places such as home kitchens, 115 00:07:37,082 --> 00:07:41,294 school gardens, community organization, spiritual centers, 116 00:07:41,378 --> 00:07:43,880 farmers, and natural trades. 117 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:44,798 Thank you. 118 00:07:44,881 --> 00:07:45,882 We are hitting a wall, 119 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:48,760 and we know that pills and surgeries 120 00:07:48,843 --> 00:07:51,346 are not making a dent in the rates of diabetes 121 00:07:51,429 --> 00:07:52,973 and heart disease that we're seeing. 122 00:07:53,056 --> 00:07:57,602 The most important thing to understand is that there is no one answer. 123 00:07:57,686 --> 00:08:01,523 Health is something that needs to be engaged with everyday 124 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:02,816 throughout the day 125 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:06,277 in dozens of little choices that we make. 126 00:08:06,361 --> 00:08:08,488 The bad news is that it's complicated. 127 00:08:16,997 --> 00:08:20,959 On my 48th birthday I had a really bad headache. 128 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:22,377 Ultimately it was determined 129 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:26,381 that I had a disorder called neurosarcoidosis. 130 00:08:27,465 --> 00:08:31,344 They started treating me with prednisone, with steroids. 131 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:34,180 I tried to watch TV, TV was too slow, 132 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:36,224 so I finally had to bring in my laptop 133 00:08:36,307 --> 00:08:39,728 and that was the only thing that was, you know, fast enough that I could feel 134 00:08:39,811 --> 00:08:42,105 because these drugs just had my brain go... 135 00:08:42,981 --> 00:08:47,777 A hundred and six thousand Americans are killed every year 136 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,654 from side effects of prescription drugs. 137 00:08:49,738 --> 00:08:53,783 This is not drug errors, this is not illicit drugs, 138 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,619 and this is actually just compliant to drugs given in hospitals. 139 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:59,414 And the steroids were great 140 00:08:59,497 --> 00:09:03,460 and that the symptoms that I was having went away, 141 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:08,840 and within maybe two weeks of going on these massive dosage of steroids, 142 00:09:08,923 --> 00:09:10,300 my appetite was back 143 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:14,262 and I gained somewhere in the neighborhood 30 or 40 pounds 144 00:09:14,345 --> 00:09:15,263 in two weeks, 145 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,098 because I was eating like a teenage boy. 146 00:09:17,182 --> 00:09:18,558 What I didn't know at that time 147 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:22,270 was that prednisone can lead to diabetes. 148 00:09:22,353 --> 00:09:26,232 So I began a course of medication for diabetes. 149 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:28,276 We tend to medicalize health. 150 00:09:28,359 --> 00:09:29,986 We tend to really think of it 151 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:33,740 within the purview of what we can do 152 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,868 that's either a drug or a surgery 153 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:39,996 or some kind of chemical intervention 154 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,581 to make us feel better, 155 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:43,541 and in fact we know 156 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:46,795 that there is many, many other things out there 157 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:49,380 that have everything to do with creating this balance. 158 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:52,509 I mean, I am really thankful that Western medicine saved his life 159 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:56,387 because, you know, definitely it was going downhill fast. 160 00:09:56,471 --> 00:09:57,847 But at the same time, you know, 161 00:09:57,931 --> 00:10:00,767 prednisone has got such terrible side effects that it's... 162 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:04,062 it's just one of those things that... 163 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:06,481 It was like those old '40s and '50s movies 164 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:08,817 where somebody saves your life and now they own you. 165 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:10,568 This is where I pay you off. 166 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:13,863 The hubris of thinking 167 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:17,742 that we could simplify this complex system, 168 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:19,369 put it on a pill, 169 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:26,793 that had the benefits of broccoli, 170 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:28,920 I mean, they would be making billions of dollars 171 00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:30,380 because it's just so clear-cut. 172 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:34,717 So our reductionist approach is doing very little 173 00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:37,303 in the face of this epidemic of chronic disease. 174 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,432 Reductionism means taking a system 175 00:10:41,516 --> 00:10:45,228 and reducing it into its component parts 176 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:49,315 as if the whole was just the sum of its part 177 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:52,318 so we can take any single part out, 178 00:10:52,402 --> 00:10:55,238 you know, get the same effect as the whole. 179 00:10:55,530 --> 00:10:58,908 Such processes do not really occur in nature. 180 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:00,827 One of the first ones was Descartes, 181 00:11:01,536 --> 00:11:04,414 which basically said you cannot study nature in its complexity, 182 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:06,291 you have to study in its parts, 183 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:11,045 and that's when the transdisciplinary nature of knowledge was divided 184 00:11:11,129 --> 00:11:13,464 into commodities or disciplines. 185 00:11:13,548 --> 00:11:15,091 The second influence was Darwin. 186 00:11:15,175 --> 00:11:18,887 Darwin, although he came up with the Theory of Evolution, 187 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:21,264 he emphasized the survival of the fittest, 188 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:22,681 which means competition, 189 00:11:22,765 --> 00:11:25,518 the ones that are successful competitors make it, 190 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:27,020 when it turns out that in nature 191 00:11:27,103 --> 00:11:29,731 there is much more complementarity 192 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:32,734 and collaboration and cooperation than competition. 193 00:11:33,735 --> 00:11:35,278 The traditional linear model, 194 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:37,405 the pharmaceutical company model is, 195 00:11:37,488 --> 00:11:40,116 let's identify one probiotic, 196 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,077 they would be put into this extremely complicated system 197 00:11:43,161 --> 00:11:45,330 which is equally complicated to our brain 198 00:11:45,413 --> 00:11:46,831 and that will cure disease. 199 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:50,835 In the modern system's view, not the right way of looking at it. 200 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,338 We see now that we don't live in a linear world 201 00:11:53,421 --> 00:11:55,632 that A causes B causes C. 202 00:11:55,714 --> 00:11:58,384 What in fact we live in is a complex network. 203 00:11:58,468 --> 00:12:02,555 It's a complex system where everything is related to everything else. 204 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:03,973 It's that kind of thinking, 205 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:07,018 the science of complex systems are adaptive complex systems 206 00:12:07,101 --> 00:12:09,270 that determine our future. 207 00:12:09,479 --> 00:12:14,192 What you need for a complex problem is a complex solution. 208 00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:22,617 One of the things that we have done 209 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:24,619 is... that was really important to us 210 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:27,330 was we started a garden. 211 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:30,333 When we got the house that was one of the first things that we did 212 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:32,085 and started growing our own food. 213 00:12:32,168 --> 00:12:35,463 It's kind of something that's become more integrated into our lives. 214 00:12:35,546 --> 00:12:37,382 It tends to drive a lot of things, 215 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:40,343 like we look at some of the food in the grocery store now 216 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:42,011 and just go, I don't want that. 217 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:44,430 You know, I want tomatoes from my garden. 218 00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:50,520 I started really thinking about how I eat and what I eat 219 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:52,605 and started to refine that. 220 00:12:58,278 --> 00:12:59,696 I grew up outside of Buffalo 221 00:12:59,778 --> 00:13:02,991 and a friend of mine who grew up there, she calls it The Land of Meat. 222 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:06,035 A meal is meat with other things around it. 223 00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:10,748 To have salad as a meal is like having a side dish as a meal. 224 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:14,877 It was harder to avoid it than it was to just take it in. 225 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:18,089 You grow up, you don't question it when you get to our age 226 00:13:18,172 --> 00:13:20,842 and meat has some bad effects on your body. 227 00:13:20,925 --> 00:13:25,513 My life then was really very much about my work 228 00:13:25,596 --> 00:13:29,517 and eating as conveniently as possible. 229 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,271 Food is emotional and it's part of, I don't know, who you are. 230 00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:34,939 That was the Ronnie then. 231 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:36,691 Gotten down to where I am about, 232 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:41,362 around 210 or so, and that keeps me going. 233 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:45,116 My blood sugar level has been in the normal range now 234 00:13:45,199 --> 00:13:47,994 for actually probably a couple of years. 235 00:13:48,077 --> 00:13:50,496 Does that mean that you don't have diabetes anymore? 236 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:53,499 I no longer have diabetes, so... 237 00:13:53,583 --> 00:13:56,210 So you are not taking any medication for your diabetes. 238 00:13:56,294 --> 00:14:00,173 No, and before I was taking daily medication 239 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:02,925 or twice daily medication for my diabetes. 240 00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:04,761 What we were taught in medical school 241 00:14:04,843 --> 00:14:06,971 is that you can't reverse diabetes, 242 00:14:07,055 --> 00:14:09,015 that was really what we were taught, 243 00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:12,060 that it was kind of like a runaway train, 244 00:14:12,435 --> 00:14:16,397 and once it was, you know, the breaks were off, it just... 245 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:18,649 it was never coming back to the station, 246 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:23,112 and you really have disproved that 247 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,782 and I just find it amazing. 248 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:28,284 And you are not alone 249 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,870 but it's something that's very inspirational 250 00:14:30,953 --> 00:14:33,748 for other people to know that that can happen. 251 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:37,668 My life, especially in the last ten years or so, 252 00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:40,505 has been about trying to establish routines 253 00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,382 where I could be comfortable 254 00:14:42,465 --> 00:14:46,010 and focus on what's really important to me. 255 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,607 If the revolution continues the way it's gone the last five years, 256 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:02,610 I think we will have to see some dramatic changes 257 00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:05,822 that dietary interventions may have a much bigger influence 258 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,865 I think in medical care, 259 00:15:07,949 --> 00:15:12,203 in both prevention of diseases but also treatment of various disorders. 260 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:15,623 Yeah, I kind of think of it, too, as that's money I don't have to spend 261 00:15:15,706 --> 00:15:19,127 going to the hospital or something else later. 262 00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:22,171 It's a part of my insurance plan. 263 00:15:49,657 --> 00:15:51,617 Hi. I am Daphne Miller. 264 00:15:51,701 --> 00:15:53,494 - Hi. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 265 00:15:57,707 --> 00:15:59,417 We had an epidemic of diabetes, 266 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:03,004 epidemic of nutrition-related problems. 267 00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:05,298 And I show up at Harvard 268 00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:09,969 and there is only one M.D. in my nutrition program, that was me, 269 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:11,596 and I was absolutely shocked. 270 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:14,765 I had a couple of people lower their cholesterol 271 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,517 over 50 points in ten days. 272 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:19,520 If you can lower your cholesterol 50 points in ten days, 273 00:16:19,604 --> 00:16:21,814 why would you want to take a statin drug 274 00:16:21,898 --> 00:16:24,317 that's known to cause liver damage, muscle damage, 275 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,568 memory loss and... 276 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:31,157 And now there are lawsuits about Lipitor causing diabetes. 277 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,702 Why would you want to take that stuff if you can do it naturally? 278 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:37,163 And by the way, the side effects of doing it like that 279 00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:40,583 is, well, your blood sugar gets better, your blood pressure gets better 280 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:42,543 and you might lose weight if you are... 281 00:16:42,627 --> 00:16:44,754 well, you will lose weight if you are overweight. 282 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:49,592 Here in the United States, the number one killer is diet. 283 00:16:49,926 --> 00:16:53,095 So, what we eat determines our lifespan, 284 00:16:53,179 --> 00:16:57,975 our health span in terms of both disability and mortality. 285 00:16:58,476 --> 00:17:02,021 I went from... close to 300 pounds 286 00:17:02,313 --> 00:17:04,565 with a 42-inch waist 287 00:17:04,649 --> 00:17:08,027 down to about a 190 288 00:17:08,110 --> 00:17:10,655 with a 34-inch waist. 289 00:17:10,738 --> 00:17:13,616 Blood pressure was probably one of the biggest things that changed. 290 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:15,159 I was diagnosed pre-diabetic 291 00:17:15,243 --> 00:17:18,746 because both my blood pressure numbers were completely off the charts 292 00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:20,915 and that almost changed immediately. 293 00:17:20,998 --> 00:17:22,375 It also changed my palate. 294 00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:24,919 A lot of the food that's actually available right now 295 00:17:25,002 --> 00:17:28,130 in our supermarkets or in our restaurants didn't taste good, 296 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:31,926 I had to go out and find or grow the type of food 297 00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:35,429 that my body wanted to eat. 298 00:17:35,513 --> 00:17:38,266 In less than, I would even say nine months, 299 00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:41,227 completely changed how I look, how I felt. 300 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:44,480 Now, people who have seen my whole life didn't recognize me, 301 00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:48,150 and I was often accused of being on drugs 302 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,278 because the amount of weight that I dropped down 303 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:52,405 and my body just completely changed. 304 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,407 The native people 305 00:17:54,949 --> 00:17:57,702 have just about the worst health in the nation. 306 00:17:57,785 --> 00:18:00,830 If you look at mortality statistics, 307 00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:05,376 we were unfortunately double the rate of heart disease, 308 00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:07,795 double the rate of cancer, double the rate of stroke. 309 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:10,339 This is in terms of mortality for pure Hawaiians, 310 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:13,050 five times the rate for diabetes. 311 00:18:13,509 --> 00:18:15,553 So I actually went back to the Bishop Museum 312 00:18:15,636 --> 00:18:18,306 and started collecting photographs of Hawaiians 313 00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:19,557 in the old days, 314 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,186 including drawings from Captain Cook's artists back in 1778, 315 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:26,355 and you saw slim Hawaiians. 316 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:28,316 Number one, there was no sugar, 317 00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:32,528 and they didn't have it back in 1778. 318 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,655 I mean, that was a Western invention. 319 00:18:34,989 --> 00:18:39,827 Their main staple was taro and poi, which is made from taro, 320 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:43,623 sweet potatoes, and yams, and little bit of breadfruit. 321 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:48,085 The change in the diet, lifestyle, eating processed food, 322 00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:50,671 and so much meat and so much fat 323 00:18:51,339 --> 00:18:54,717 has contributed to the obesity epidemic here, 324 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,887 and of course, all the diseases that come along with it. 325 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,680 I remember when I was a kid, 326 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:02,391 you could count the number of fast food places on one hand 327 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:03,559 on the whole island. 328 00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:07,188 Now, there's fast food places on every corner. 329 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:11,651 We are faced with a society that's already been brainwashed 330 00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:14,070 to eat meat three times a day, 331 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,988 dairy three times a day, 332 00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:18,407 taught that lean meat and chicken is health food, 333 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:19,367 which it is not. 334 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,327 We need to educate people, 335 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:24,705 the healthiest way is nature's way. 336 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:27,625 After all, for thousands of years, 337 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:31,337 we have been eating whole grains and vegetables and beans 338 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:34,298 and animals were not fattened up like they are today, 339 00:19:34,423 --> 00:19:35,925 or chemicalized. 340 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,678 Basically, we're gradually poisoning ourselves. 341 00:19:38,761 --> 00:19:41,639 All you have to do is look at the obesity maps in the U.S. 342 00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:43,474 It's getting worse and worse and worse. 343 00:19:49,146 --> 00:19:50,856 We are just totally been screwed over. 344 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:55,152 You've got this junk food industry that's spending billions of dollars 345 00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:57,988 to get the young kids to eat their shit. 346 00:19:58,072 --> 00:20:01,534 By the time these poor kids are 13, 14 years old, 347 00:20:01,617 --> 00:20:03,244 they got all kinds of diseases. 348 00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:06,414 They got asthma, they got attention deficit, 349 00:20:06,497 --> 00:20:09,875 they got so much going on that is just out of control, 350 00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:12,628 and it's really sad. 351 00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:14,880 These remarkable studies 352 00:20:14,964 --> 00:20:17,925 in which the progression of cancer 353 00:20:18,008 --> 00:20:20,428 was reversed with the whole food, plant-based diet, 354 00:20:20,511 --> 00:20:22,430 progression of heart disease, hypertension, 355 00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:26,058 type 2 diabetes reversed, and cases, even cured. 356 00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:28,394 It's the complexity in the diet, 357 00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:30,312 how those foods come together, 358 00:20:30,688 --> 00:20:33,941 and how those foods interact with the soil 359 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:36,444 that really offers us the real medicine. 360 00:20:36,777 --> 00:20:40,573 Is there anybody who is in the health field in this room? 361 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:42,658 Anybody working in health at all? 362 00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:45,661 Wow. Okay, I really am alone. 363 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:48,789 How many farmers do we have here today? 364 00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:51,459 A couple of farmers, wonderful. 365 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:53,794 Well, to the farmers in the room, 366 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:57,590 I look at you and me as one and the same. 367 00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:00,009 We're doing the exact same work. 368 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:01,802 We're here to keep people healthy 369 00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:03,846 and heal our communities, 370 00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:06,223 and hopefully by the end of my talk, 371 00:21:06,307 --> 00:21:08,684 you'll all agree with me that that is the case. 372 00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:16,859 I've got the kitchen waste compost in here, 373 00:21:17,985 --> 00:21:20,070 and down inside there we have worms, 374 00:21:20,154 --> 00:21:23,866 so the worms are eating up the kitchen compost, 375 00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:26,327 and we're getting a little bit of rain now, 376 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,454 so it's about time to water it. 377 00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:30,289 And everyday we collect... 378 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:31,957 We collected this one already 379 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:34,210 and we get this incredible worm juice. 380 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,378 And we use it for watering our nursery 381 00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:39,298 and other plants that are in need of help. 382 00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:42,051 As far as obtaining anything in the store, 383 00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:46,764 nothing comes close to how wonderful this works 384 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,933 at putting nutrients into your plants. 385 00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:51,519 Look at these coconuts, man, they're only... 386 00:21:51,602 --> 00:21:54,605 They're only four years old and I am eating coconuts off of them. 387 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,399 Yeah, this is quite the site to have a coconut tree 388 00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:59,693 where you got to get down on your knees to harvest. 389 00:21:59,777 --> 00:22:02,196 Right there, there were 16 coconuts. 390 00:22:02,905 --> 00:22:05,324 Nice view. So we get to watch the whales every winter. 391 00:22:05,741 --> 00:22:07,868 The whales park out here, so all winter long, 392 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,120 we get to watch the whales breaching on here. 393 00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:11,204 It's really beautiful. 394 00:22:11,247 --> 00:22:12,623 They call me Ginger John, 395 00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:15,543 that's what everybody knows me by on the island. 396 00:22:25,553 --> 00:22:29,181 Not only are they producing the food that keeps us healthy, 397 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:32,768 but they are protecting the land and the soil, 398 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:35,855 which is absolutely critical to our own health. 399 00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:43,529 - Daphne? - Yeah. All right. 400 00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:44,864 Good to meet you too. Aloha. 401 00:22:44,947 --> 00:22:46,282 This is your property? 402 00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:48,576 - It's all of ours. - So it's mine too. 403 00:22:48,659 --> 00:22:49,994 - That's yours too. - Okay. 404 00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:51,954 You're standing here, life brought you here. 405 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:52,872 Enjoy. 406 00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:54,707 You look fantastic, so obviously it's... 407 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,626 Sixty-eight years old and I work circles around as 20-year-olds. 408 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,837 I was the vanguard of the Hippie Movement 409 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,423 and somehow I got the message to come to Hawaii, 410 00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:06,427 so I got here in 1967, ended up living on this beach, 411 00:23:06,969 --> 00:23:08,429 Makena Beach on Maui, 412 00:23:08,721 --> 00:23:10,556 for two years with no clothes 413 00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:14,226 and no money, no blanket, nothing. 414 00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:18,731 Getting disconnected, so to speak, connected me. 415 00:23:18,814 --> 00:23:21,275 I was laying on the beach and thinking, you're gonna die. 416 00:23:21,358 --> 00:23:24,028 You better go into town so that you can do something about it. 417 00:23:24,111 --> 00:23:27,865 I was sitting and about ready to fall over and this old Hawaiian lady came up to me 418 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,951 and saw that I was really ill and just embraced me. 419 00:23:31,035 --> 00:23:33,954 And asthma was drawing and I told her I was bleeding from my lungs, 420 00:23:34,038 --> 00:23:35,915 I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. 421 00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:39,417 And she said, "Well, when the Hawaiians had lung diseases, they ate noni." 422 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:40,920 And she took me to a noni tree 423 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,796 because noni used to grow everywhere, 424 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,759 and I started eating nonis and I haven't stopped. 425 00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,636 I have been eating nonis for 50 years now 426 00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:51,013 I am a way into eating noni. I eat it every morning. 427 00:23:51,138 --> 00:23:52,181 That's amazing. 428 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:55,100 So you were near death, it sounds like. 429 00:23:55,184 --> 00:23:57,186 I have been near death many times. 430 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,563 I have had just about every disease you can think of 431 00:23:59,647 --> 00:24:01,899 and I just lay down on the ground and go through it. 432 00:24:01,982 --> 00:24:02,982 I don't go to doctors. 433 00:24:03,025 --> 00:24:05,736 I am sure John told you all about taro and how beautiful it is. 434 00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:07,988 This is the only hypoallergenic food in the world. 435 00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:10,240 You can give this to a baby, a day old. 436 00:24:10,324 --> 00:24:12,701 If they have a milk allergy to their own mother's milk, 437 00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:14,620 give it to a baby and it will sustain them. 438 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:17,539 That's the stuff. 439 00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:20,042 My name is Connor Garrett, I am from Naples, Florida. 440 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:22,127 I am living here on Ginger John's farm. 441 00:24:22,211 --> 00:24:25,089 I initially came here with the intention to do so 442 00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:27,341 and then move on, go back to what I was doing, 443 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:31,345 but now I've become quite enveloped in this lifestyle 444 00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:33,973 and I don't really plan on going back anytime soon. 445 00:24:34,223 --> 00:24:37,226 John is somebody who will definitely blow your mind 446 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:38,309 in a lot of ways. 447 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,231 This tool is called the hodad, my favorite tool. 448 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,066 No, he does intensive farming. 449 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:45,359 It's not like gardening. 450 00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:49,071 It's not anything in a hoop house where you're spraying chemicals, 451 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:51,240 and you get to prance around in the flowers. 452 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:53,158 You got to rip things out of the ground, 453 00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:55,285 beat the dirt off of them. 454 00:25:14,512 --> 00:25:15,556 Full bucket. 455 00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:53,302 Good to see you. 456 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,345 I am glad you could make it. 457 00:25:56,138 --> 00:25:59,516 This is all yours, this amazing estate here? 458 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,684 - Sort of. - Sort of. 459 00:26:00,768 --> 00:26:03,896 The bank owns some of it, and my children own some of it, 460 00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:05,230 but this is a family farm. 461 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:06,690 Can we have a tour first? 462 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:07,816 Anything you wanna do. 463 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:09,443 Yeah, let's have a tour and then... 464 00:26:09,526 --> 00:26:11,195 I pity the man that says no to you. 465 00:26:14,615 --> 00:26:17,159 How many acres do you have? 466 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,453 We've got about 100 acres of soybeans. 467 00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,830 We just finished this field Monday, 468 00:26:22,456 --> 00:26:25,834 now this is the one we planted after wheat that we dried... 469 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:26,835 Right. 470 00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:28,378 This was the one we just planted, 471 00:26:28,462 --> 00:26:31,589 and the one that we're just finished working on right now is... 472 00:26:32,341 --> 00:26:35,677 we call early beans that we planted in May. 473 00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:38,347 Do you buy seeds from Monsanto by the way? 474 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,516 Monsanto Technology Card. 475 00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:42,518 My goodness. 476 00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,229 So the genetic modification allowed us to use 477 00:26:45,312 --> 00:26:48,482 some simple applications of a herbicide, 478 00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:49,858 Roundup primarily. 479 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:53,320 It can kill everything but the corn. It can kill everything but the soybeans. 480 00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:55,572 Our cost went down and it was easier to farm, 481 00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:57,074 and it was easier to maintain. 482 00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:59,201 We just have, like, a smorgasbord of chemicals 483 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:00,994 we were trying to pick out what to use. 484 00:27:01,078 --> 00:27:03,705 So you have to make a cocktail mixture of what to apply 485 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:06,041 to kill the weeds that were chocking the crop. 486 00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:07,334 Roundup took it all. 487 00:27:07,584 --> 00:27:11,004 You can imagine that anything that is engineered 488 00:27:11,088 --> 00:27:13,715 to kill off bacteria in the soil 489 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,467 is gonna do the same thing in our gut, 490 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,303 and pesticides and herbicides do exactly that. 491 00:27:19,346 --> 00:27:22,182 They work the same way as antibiotics work. 492 00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:24,184 They kill living things. 493 00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:27,688 So we're standing at the side of the Century Experiment, 494 00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:30,941 which is a hundred-year research experiment 495 00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:35,237 looking at the sustainability of different agricultural systems. 496 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,282 And so there is this contrast between managing soil 497 00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:40,951 sort of like cookbook style, following the menu, 498 00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:43,579 and you put in this and that at this time, 499 00:27:43,661 --> 00:27:44,913 then you spray this. 500 00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:48,041 So it's pretty much a, you know, a codified approach 501 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:49,918 that you might get from an extension, 502 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:54,631 as opposed to other farmers who actually talk about farming the soil 503 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:57,968 and they talk about having a relationship with the soil. 504 00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:00,387 They talk about doing as much for the soil 505 00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:01,972 as they are doing for their crops. 506 00:28:02,055 --> 00:28:04,224 They may even put more emphasis on the soil 507 00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:06,935 because they feel like if they take care of the soil 508 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:08,604 then the crops are going to do fine. 509 00:28:08,937 --> 00:28:11,356 An organic farmer grows soil, 510 00:28:11,815 --> 00:28:12,816 it's light. 511 00:28:13,691 --> 00:28:15,485 A chemical farmer grows crops. 512 00:28:15,777 --> 00:28:17,695 So how do you put nutrients back in? 513 00:28:18,155 --> 00:28:21,575 So we will buy usually commercial fertilizers. 514 00:28:21,699 --> 00:28:24,411 It's got earthworm in it. Hey, buddy. 515 00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:25,954 You are on camera. 516 00:28:27,331 --> 00:28:28,165 That's good. 517 00:28:28,248 --> 00:28:29,707 So if my crops don't do well, 518 00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,544 it's not 'cause of what I'm putting in, it's 'cause of the soil. 519 00:28:32,628 --> 00:28:34,421 So we don't really know where it sourced. 520 00:28:34,504 --> 00:28:35,589 Does that ever worry you 521 00:28:35,672 --> 00:28:37,715 that you're putting all the stuff on your field 522 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,593 from some foreign place? 523 00:28:39,676 --> 00:28:40,510 No, it doesn't. 524 00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:43,889 When you are locked into a system that seems to be working, 525 00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:46,475 it's really hard to make the change. 526 00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:50,938 The whole agribusiness system has separated this whole, 527 00:28:51,021 --> 00:28:53,482 and I think that's part of what the local food movement 528 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:56,902 a lot of what was going on, how do we make that connectivity to it. 529 00:28:56,985 --> 00:29:00,155 And I don't know how individually to bridge that gap, 530 00:29:00,697 --> 00:29:01,949 I don't know how to do it. 531 00:29:02,032 --> 00:29:03,325 I don't know my consumer. 532 00:29:03,659 --> 00:29:05,369 I have no connection whatsoever. 533 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:07,996 My farming style is to grow the food crops 534 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,748 that have sustained civilization. 535 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:10,958 When I sit down and eat, 536 00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,001 90 percent of what I eat comes from this farm. 537 00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:14,586 I really feel like I am cheating. 538 00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:16,421 So where do you get your food? 539 00:29:16,505 --> 00:29:17,714 I go to the Kroger Stores. 540 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:19,424 - Really? - Yeah. 541 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,302 You go and shop in a grocery store for food? 542 00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:24,221 Sure. Every farmer does. 543 00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:25,847 I know very few 544 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:30,435 who actually consume the food on their own farm. 545 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,731 The average food that we eat travels about 1,500 miles. 546 00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:36,316 And a city like Rome, for example, 547 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,319 has to import 5,000 tons of food per day. 548 00:29:39,403 --> 00:29:41,822 Can you imagine the fragility of a system like that, 549 00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:43,573 the consequences of a system like that 550 00:29:43,657 --> 00:29:47,369 that it has on transportation energy and greenhouse gases. 551 00:29:47,661 --> 00:29:51,123 I mean, things have to change, and that's local agriculture, 552 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,835 and much of our local agriculture is founded in traditional agriculture. 553 00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:57,587 To feed a person in a developed world 554 00:29:57,921 --> 00:29:59,298 with commercial agriculture, 555 00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:02,175 we need about 12 barrels of oil 556 00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:03,593 per year per person. 557 00:30:03,677 --> 00:30:05,804 If we think about the moment 558 00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:08,765 in which the world produced its peak of oil, 559 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:13,103 that was about five barrels per person, per year. 560 00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:17,774 There is not enough oil in the world to sustain food production 561 00:30:17,858 --> 00:30:19,234 under the conventional model. 562 00:30:19,318 --> 00:30:21,903 It works 'cause it only works in a small part of the world. 563 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:23,530 Most farmers don't raise food. 564 00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:25,615 We don't know much about food. 565 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:27,451 We know about product. 566 00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:29,745 I see some sadness in your eyes when I say that, 567 00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:31,997 but I think it's a legitimate statement, 568 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,292 is that we just don't have a way to connect with that aspect. 569 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:39,212 Organic farming receives, in a country like the Netherlands, 570 00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:44,176 about ten percent of the funding for agricultural research. 571 00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:46,887 Now, the Netherlands invests in organic farming 572 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:48,889 something like $4 million per year. 573 00:30:49,473 --> 00:30:54,603 A company like Monsanto invests $900 million per year in research, 574 00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,563 and most of the governments in the world 575 00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,899 invest most of the money in conventional farming. 576 00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:00,108 When I harvest a weed, 577 00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:03,153 I can put it under loan with USDA, 578 00:31:03,236 --> 00:31:06,698 I can at least get three quarters of its market value 579 00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:07,824 the day I harvest it. 580 00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:12,037 So there's lots of incentives for me to stay inside of the safety net. 581 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,081 What you're telling me is that the government 582 00:31:14,164 --> 00:31:16,541 is a lot more reliable customer for you? 583 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:21,004 On the basic commodities that we raise in this country, 584 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:22,964 the feed grains, the wheat, the corn, 585 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,385 and the government, through farm bills, has provided a way 586 00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:30,764 to at least protect you and have a marketing system. 587 00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:34,017 Although the gap in yields between organic and conventional 588 00:31:34,101 --> 00:31:35,435 is only 20 percent, 589 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,480 the gap in investments and research is 100 percent, 590 00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:41,358 and yet without research, without funding, 591 00:31:41,441 --> 00:31:44,152 organic farming is pushing and coming closer 592 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:45,529 to conventional farming. 593 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:50,826 So the results, the progress made per dollar invested in research is huge. 594 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:52,076 It's a way of life. 595 00:31:52,452 --> 00:31:55,455 You live like a peasant, you work like a slave, 596 00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:58,500 but you eat better than any king ever ate. 597 00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:01,128 And the important part about that 598 00:32:01,211 --> 00:32:03,296 is that is your health insurance. 599 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:06,383 I don't have a health insurance, I don't have social security. 600 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:07,759 I have this. 601 00:32:07,843 --> 00:32:11,012 Another cemetery on the farm over there on the hillside 602 00:32:11,096 --> 00:32:12,931 and there's some Hentons buried over there. 603 00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:14,224 This is one of the... 604 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,937 Well, I figure that's my spot about there at some point. 605 00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:21,898 I am curious to hear what happens with you 606 00:32:21,982 --> 00:32:23,859 in the next couple of years, Hoppy, 607 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:25,569 because I do believe maybe up... 608 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,571 Hopefully you're gonna talk to my daughter 609 00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:30,490 and she is gonna have a whole new approach on this, okay? 610 00:32:31,116 --> 00:32:33,869 This is the generational shift, this is gonna change. 611 00:32:36,997 --> 00:32:39,875 That statement about not growing food, 612 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,501 that farmers don't grow food... 613 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:46,298 was unbelievable to me. 614 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:47,424 That was amazing. 615 00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:51,761 I mean, I just wrote a whole book about farmers being healers 616 00:32:51,845 --> 00:32:54,806 and that they had the health of their community 617 00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:58,852 as their primary concern. 618 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:04,608 And I think that might be the case for a small subset of farmers, 619 00:33:04,691 --> 00:33:07,110 but from what Hoppy was saying, 620 00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:09,905 that certainly isn't the case for the majority of farmers. 621 00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:16,953 I see this as the single largest health issue 622 00:33:17,037 --> 00:33:18,622 that is facing our country. 623 00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:23,835 Can growing food or growing products 624 00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:28,715 be something that is net positive for us? 625 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,886 Can it be healing? 626 00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:36,765 Last Sunday we told you about a WHO report 627 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:40,310 that listed several chemicals as potentially cancer-causing, 628 00:33:40,393 --> 00:33:44,481 including glyphosate found in the popular weed-killer Roundup. 629 00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,776 Now, in an interview for an upcoming French documentary, 630 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,738 a Canadian scientist has been caught in an Erin Brockovich-like moment 631 00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:54,032 when he's asked to defend that chemical 632 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,743 against links to cancer rates in Argentina. 633 00:33:57,077 --> 00:33:58,077 Take a look. 634 00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:01,498 Do not believe glyphosate, in Argentina, 635 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:03,333 is causing increases in cancer. 636 00:34:03,416 --> 00:34:05,877 You can drink a whole quart of it and it won't hurt you. 637 00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,421 Yes, do you want to drink some? We have some here. 638 00:34:08,505 --> 00:34:11,216 I would be happy to actually, not really, but... 639 00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:13,260 - Not really? - I know it wouldn't hurt me. 640 00:34:13,343 --> 00:34:15,345 If you say so, I have some glyphosate. 641 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:16,680 No, I'm not stupid. 642 00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:19,766 Okay, so it's dangerous, right? 643 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:22,060 No, but I know people try to commit suicide with it 644 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:23,478 and fail fairly regularly. 645 00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:24,938 Tell the truth, it's dangerous. 646 00:34:25,021 --> 00:34:26,856 It's not dangerous to humans. No, it's not. 647 00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:28,942 So are ready to drink one glass of glyphosate? 648 00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:30,026 No, I'm not an idiot. 649 00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:33,738 Even though this may look disgusting to most people 650 00:34:33,822 --> 00:34:38,410 because this is really kind of dirty looking, 651 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,162 I know that the microorganism living in here 652 00:34:41,246 --> 00:34:43,999 is the most beneficial one on earth, 653 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:45,082 and so... 654 00:34:47,294 --> 00:34:49,254 I'm not afraid to take a big drink of it, 655 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:51,506 and super-probiotic, 656 00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:54,009 had a little bite to it too. 657 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:56,970 And this is essentially the food for the microorganisms 658 00:34:57,053 --> 00:34:58,346 when I put them out there. 659 00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:02,100 And this one is much better. 660 00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:06,479 For two years I was trying to grow taro in these fields, 661 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:10,317 and I have been growing taro for about 40 years 662 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,027 and I never had a problem. 663 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,154 Yet I couldn't get a crop to really grow. 664 00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:15,655 I was getting really discouraged. 665 00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:20,410 And then I heard about Master Cho and Korean Natural Farming. 666 00:35:22,704 --> 00:35:25,332 Nature heals itself. 667 00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:28,627 Natural farming is about using nature's material and processes. 668 00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:30,587 It's not about adding nutrients directly. 669 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:33,798 It's about supplying the origin of nutrients 670 00:35:33,882 --> 00:35:39,763 so the crops have everything they need to thrive. 671 00:35:39,846 --> 00:35:43,475 Even those who are new to natural farming can do this 672 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:46,353 by following simple instructions. 673 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:49,272 It's kind of designed for peasants like myself. 674 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,733 And all these different things 675 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:54,069 when combined in the right proportions 676 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,781 make the microorganisms thrive and bring them back to life. 677 00:35:57,864 --> 00:35:59,866 Microorganisms are inside of us. 678 00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:02,702 They are on our skin, they are in our lungs. 679 00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:07,040 They are really what connect us to the world around us. 680 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:10,210 Nothing was growing, there wasn't an earthworm here, 681 00:36:10,293 --> 00:36:15,298 and he had almost reintroduced that fungal network 682 00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:16,716 into his soil here 683 00:36:17,258 --> 00:36:19,177 and the results have spoken themselves. 684 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,471 Indigenous microorganisms 685 00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:25,308 are basically probiotics for agriculture. 686 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:31,106 IMOs are made by farmers using the materials from that land 687 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,609 and then fermenting it and putting it back into the land 688 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:39,280 where it can help the plants and the fungi and all the above, 689 00:36:39,364 --> 00:36:41,866 soil and everything that's there, thrive. 690 00:36:49,499 --> 00:36:50,499 Nice. 691 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:53,128 If you have totally white mold like this, 692 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:56,965 it's an excellent IMO-1 that we cultivated. 693 00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:01,678 From this stage you would collect all this into a jar 694 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:05,974 and add equal amount of sugar to the rice 695 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:09,644 and so that way we will move it to IMO-2. 696 00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:17,694 Our approach is based on letting natural processes unfold. 697 00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:19,946 It's basically a philosophy of non-interference. 698 00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:22,657 The emphasis is on creating a healthy foundation. 699 00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:25,827 And then just observing as Mother Nature does her work. 700 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,621 We planted the red lettuces. 701 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:31,082 I was spraying them with the Korean Natural Farming, 702 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:32,292 and then I guess, 703 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,086 when I wasn't paying attention I forgot the one at the end. 704 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:38,089 Then I came back and the other red lettuces 705 00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,216 are four times the size 706 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:41,718 of the other red lettuce, 707 00:37:41,801 --> 00:37:43,678 and they were all planted on the same day, 708 00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:46,264 except for the front half of the row 709 00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:49,684 received Korean Natural Farming nutrients. 710 00:37:50,018 --> 00:37:52,145 Four inches deep... 711 00:37:52,228 --> 00:37:54,105 that this tester can get into the ground, 712 00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:56,775 so this is a conventional practice. 713 00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:58,735 So this is six inches. 714 00:37:58,818 --> 00:38:01,654 I have about eight inches deep in an organic plot. 715 00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:06,534 So I have scattered IMO for last season 716 00:38:06,785 --> 00:38:09,078 before we planted tomato in here. 717 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,919 You can see that I get to a deeper level 718 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:17,629 in this soil compaction. 719 00:38:18,213 --> 00:38:20,256 Now we can see how deep it gets. 720 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:22,926 So this is 12 inches, 721 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:25,261 I have it about 14 inches. 722 00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:30,058 So from four inches in the conventional practice, 723 00:38:30,683 --> 00:38:32,519 eight inches in the organic, 724 00:38:32,602 --> 00:38:35,772 now we have 14 inches in Korean Natural Farming. 725 00:38:36,022 --> 00:38:37,524 When you have a commercial plant, 726 00:38:37,607 --> 00:38:39,734 you have a very small root system 727 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,694 because they're drug-dependent, 728 00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:43,363 so the roots don't have to travel. 729 00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:45,949 There is nothing for them to go out there for, it's dead. 730 00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,618 It's a dead zone and they're just living on these chemicals 731 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:49,786 that have been fed them. 732 00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:53,081 If you're farming with microorganisms, 733 00:38:53,206 --> 00:38:55,291 you're doing a biological farming 734 00:38:55,375 --> 00:38:58,378 and you have a good population of microbes in the soil. 735 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,631 The root systems will grow very far out, hundreds of feet. 736 00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:05,260 Korean Natural Farming, what farmers are doing is recognizing 737 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,554 that the microbes that are there 738 00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,056 on that farm and in that soil 739 00:39:10,139 --> 00:39:13,685 are really critical to the life cycle of the farm 740 00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:15,228 and to the health of the plants, 741 00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:18,314 and to the health of the people who eat those plants. 742 00:39:18,398 --> 00:39:20,191 I have a degree in Computer Science 743 00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:24,863 and decided to learn how to farm. 744 00:39:24,946 --> 00:39:26,906 With all the techniques you can pick, 745 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:29,617 Korean Natural Farming is like right on with the kids 746 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:31,744 because every single thing you use is edible, 747 00:39:32,996 --> 00:39:35,540 and so with the kids I don't have to worry about them 748 00:39:35,623 --> 00:39:37,584 getting poison on them and eating it, 749 00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:39,460 or like getting in dangerous situations. 750 00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:41,921 They just... everything they can eat, if they spill it, 751 00:39:42,005 --> 00:39:43,089 it's not a problem, 752 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:45,341 it just goes into the ground, makes things better. 753 00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:46,509 Now, right here, 754 00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:51,097 you are probably looking at six billion microorganisms 755 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,599 in this little chunk here. 756 00:39:52,682 --> 00:39:54,684 What Ginger John is practicing 757 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,061 is basically complexity medicine, you know, 758 00:39:57,145 --> 00:39:58,605 or complexity farming. 759 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:00,690 - Can you see that white on your film? - Yeah. 760 00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:03,693 That's the microorganisms going to work here. 761 00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:07,697 The ones with the microorganisms were flourishing, 762 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:10,241 They were twice as large, very green, 763 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:11,576 the cups were full of roots. 764 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:15,371 So right then we knew, wow, what is this magic? 765 00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:17,957 In here is an IMO pile here. 766 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:22,253 The first time that I started applying my IMO to the land 767 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:23,546 and I am dumping it out, 768 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:26,633 I had this incredible feeling of sovereignty 769 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:29,260 that I was freeing myself 770 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,682 from the need of spending hard-earned money on anything 771 00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:36,184 that was being shipped over 772 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,227 across the ocean from the mainland. 773 00:40:38,311 --> 00:40:40,563 A plant will put out a stress signal 774 00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:42,440 that it's lacking some kind of nutrient. 775 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,692 It can be like boron or magnesium or calcium. 776 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:47,153 The fungus that are attached to the roots of the plant 777 00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:48,905 will sense that imbalance, 778 00:40:48,988 --> 00:40:50,949 it can actually send a signal 779 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:52,909 to an area that's rich 780 00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:54,661 and it will bring that to the plant. 781 00:40:55,036 --> 00:40:57,205 Some of them live in the rhizosphere, 782 00:40:57,288 --> 00:40:58,498 in the root of plants. 783 00:40:59,165 --> 00:41:02,502 Root of plants is extremely complex environment 784 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,463 because there are many, many organisms living there. 785 00:41:05,755 --> 00:41:08,549 Some of them cooperate, some of them compete, 786 00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:11,511 so they have to develop in order to survive 787 00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:15,473 extremely sophisticated social intelligence. 788 00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:18,059 Very much like human in social intelligence, 789 00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:19,268 just more advanced. 790 00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:22,522 So it gave us an idea what are the features 791 00:41:22,605 --> 00:41:24,941 that characterize social intelligence. 792 00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:26,776 Then I found that our own bacteria, 793 00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:28,194 the bacteria that I discovered 794 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:31,364 fall in the standard deviation above the average. 795 00:41:32,031 --> 00:41:33,241 So they are like Einstein. 796 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,995 They have special circuits to process the information 797 00:41:37,078 --> 00:41:39,497 and even engage in decision making, 798 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:40,915 looking at the desert, 799 00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:44,669 the social bacteria like enormous soil 800 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:46,629 on the integrity of Earth, 801 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,215 because all these bushes that you see here 802 00:41:49,716 --> 00:41:51,551 are connected underneath, 803 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,803 so all these things that you see around 804 00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,431 has its one big network. 805 00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,224 It's super fun, it's almost... 806 00:41:58,307 --> 00:41:59,684 like I am way too scientific. 807 00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:01,978 At first I was like, no, that's some hippy stuff. 808 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:04,522 No, it's real, it happens, 809 00:42:04,605 --> 00:42:06,024 and it's part of healthy soil. 810 00:42:06,107 --> 00:42:08,151 You'll never see it in conventional agriculture. 811 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:10,945 One of the things I have been studying is Soil Biology 812 00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:13,156 with a 400 power microscope, 813 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,452 and with that I'm able to see the beneficial fungus and bacteria, 814 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:21,289 and very quickly quantitatively decide if I'm doing it right or not. 815 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:24,792 All throughout this sample of the beneficial microorganisms 816 00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:26,461 I am finding nice fungus 817 00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:29,088 and I am finding much more of biodiversity. 818 00:42:29,172 --> 00:42:33,301 They are the ones who are harvesting nutrients from the soil 819 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,970 and passing them on to the roots of the plants, 820 00:42:36,304 --> 00:42:38,264 we're then passing them on to us. 821 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:40,641 Scientist have now discovered important clues 822 00:42:40,725 --> 00:42:43,311 about the role of so-called good bacteria. 823 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:45,354 A new study in the journal Nature 824 00:42:45,438 --> 00:42:49,275 finds that people without certain microbes are more likely to be obese 825 00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:51,861 and to have diabetes or other serious health problems. 826 00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,030 The fascinating thing about the human microbiome 827 00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:58,201 is that we now realize there is an entire organ inside of us 828 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:01,913 that until about five or ten years ago nobody even thought about 829 00:43:01,996 --> 00:43:04,332 and all the medical theories about health and disease 830 00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:06,084 have been made without that organ. 831 00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:09,212 Its a mass of cells that weighs about the same as your brain 832 00:43:09,295 --> 00:43:12,048 but it has more genes, more cells, 833 00:43:12,131 --> 00:43:14,550 arguably more connections, and more complexity, 834 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:17,386 and replacing physiologically well defined roles, 835 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:20,389 we're just beginning to understand what all those roles are. 836 00:43:20,473 --> 00:43:22,475 It's not an insubstantial organ 837 00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:26,062 because it has composed of 100 trillion cells, 838 00:43:26,145 --> 00:43:27,438 these are ten times more cells 839 00:43:27,522 --> 00:43:30,441 than an entire repertoire of human cells. 840 00:43:30,525 --> 00:43:32,110 There is so much excitement about it 841 00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:35,655 'cause it turns out most of our genes are not human genes but microbial genes. 842 00:43:35,738 --> 00:43:39,325 There is something going on inside of us that is very exciting, mysterious, 843 00:43:39,408 --> 00:43:41,953 and people are now shifting their attitude 844 00:43:42,036 --> 00:43:43,246 towards understanding this, 845 00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:46,791 implicating the microbiome in virtually every function of the body. 846 00:43:46,874 --> 00:43:48,417 They are doing all kinds of things. 847 00:43:48,501 --> 00:43:50,378 We have no idea what they were involved with 848 00:43:50,461 --> 00:43:51,461 until very recently. 849 00:43:51,504 --> 00:43:53,798 Everything from affecting how we process our diet 850 00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:56,259 to how we respond to different drugs, 851 00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:59,095 even to things like how we resist different kinds of diseases. 852 00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:01,514 One of the more intriguing things about the microbiome 853 00:44:01,597 --> 00:44:04,058 is its possible role in human obesity. 854 00:44:04,517 --> 00:44:07,603 Millions of microbes that live in the guts of slim people 855 00:44:07,687 --> 00:44:09,814 could be turned into potential fat fighters 856 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:11,899 to help the nation's obesity epidemic, 857 00:44:11,983 --> 00:44:13,151 according to a new study. 858 00:44:13,234 --> 00:44:17,196 They have taken stool material from lean and obese twins 859 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,407 so they are twin humans, 860 00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:22,118 and if you take the stool from the obese twin 861 00:44:22,201 --> 00:44:23,619 and give it to a mouse, 862 00:44:23,703 --> 00:44:25,746 that mouse will become fat, 863 00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:27,665 and if you take the stool from a lean twin 864 00:44:27,748 --> 00:44:30,251 and give it to a different mouse, that mouse stays thin. 865 00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:31,878 What's really important about that 866 00:44:31,961 --> 00:44:34,672 is that the two mice they eat the same, they exercise the same. 867 00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,424 So the only factor that was different 868 00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:38,176 was the microbiome that they received. 869 00:44:38,259 --> 00:44:41,929 They are not just sitting there as inactive bystanders. 870 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:44,348 They produce many chemicals 871 00:44:44,432 --> 00:44:47,226 that are very similar to the neurotransmitters 872 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:49,937 that our brain uses. They talk to our immune cells, 873 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:52,607 they talk to various cells within our gut. 874 00:44:52,689 --> 00:44:57,737 The reason that has truly caught the imagination of people 875 00:44:57,820 --> 00:45:01,365 is this idea that we are host to all these creatures, 876 00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:04,452 and those internal bacteria we're discovering 877 00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:09,040 or maybe as important as our own DNA in our own cells 878 00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:11,876 when it comes to determining our mood, 879 00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:13,586 how we process food, 880 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:15,546 how our immune system works. 881 00:45:28,851 --> 00:45:30,727 When I was a kid I was a huge germophobe. 882 00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:33,730 One of the things that we learned is, you know, they're not... 883 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:36,776 most of them aren't germs, most of them aren't bad. 884 00:45:37,151 --> 00:45:39,528 So if you eat a little dirt it's not gonna hurt. 885 00:45:39,612 --> 00:45:42,782 We're, you know, introducing diversity to ourselves 886 00:45:42,865 --> 00:45:44,700 and that diversity, especially as children, 887 00:45:44,784 --> 00:45:45,785 is so important 888 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,496 for helping our immune system develop properly. 889 00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:51,624 So now I'm not so worried about touching door handles 890 00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:54,710 or getting my hands dirty, 891 00:45:54,794 --> 00:45:58,047 because I know that I'm just increasing the diversity of my microbes. 892 00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:59,590 That's pretty good for my health. 893 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,094 Having a dog is one of the best evidence-based things that you can do 894 00:46:03,511 --> 00:46:06,472 in terms of reducing the rates of allergies later on. 895 00:46:06,763 --> 00:46:11,435 There is much our inheritance as the genes in our chromosomes are 896 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,770 and yet much of the way we live nowadays, 897 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:15,982 we seem to be trying to stop transmission 898 00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:18,109 of mother's microbes to the baby. 899 00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:20,528 We need to transmit the microbiota to the baby. 900 00:46:20,777 --> 00:46:22,697 Everyone assumes that breast milk is sterile, 901 00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:24,699 but not only is it not sterile, 902 00:46:24,781 --> 00:46:28,035 there is a biological mechanism to ensure that it is not, 903 00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,496 and there are organisms being picked up from the guts, 904 00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:33,541 transported in the blood, and put into breast milk. 905 00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:35,710 One has to guess that those are the organisms 906 00:46:35,792 --> 00:46:38,045 that is quite difficult to get from the maternal gut 907 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:39,839 into the baby's gut in other ways, 908 00:46:40,256 --> 00:46:42,675 and mother's milk contains a succession 909 00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:44,385 of interesting polysaccharides 910 00:46:44,468 --> 00:46:46,846 produced at different stages during lactation, 911 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:48,973 which act as a growth factor 912 00:46:49,056 --> 00:46:52,226 for the organisms that need to be developing in the baby's gut 913 00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:54,937 at each stage after birth. 914 00:46:55,187 --> 00:46:58,316 So we do seem to be trying to block this essential transmission 915 00:46:58,399 --> 00:47:00,151 of the microbiota in the next generation. 916 00:47:00,234 --> 00:47:01,485 We come out the regular way. 917 00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:03,112 As you pass through the birth canal 918 00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:06,490 you are coated with a particular set of microbes from your mother, 919 00:47:06,574 --> 00:47:08,951 whereas if you are delivered by C-section instead, 920 00:47:09,035 --> 00:47:10,619 you miss out on that inoculation 921 00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:14,040 and essentially what you pick up is skin microbes from other people 922 00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:17,126 or possibly from dust flushing around in the air. 923 00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:19,836 All of these things are limiting the transmission 924 00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:21,630 of the microbiota, 925 00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:23,716 which is part of the family's heritage, 926 00:47:23,799 --> 00:47:25,468 part of the genetics of the family. 927 00:47:25,551 --> 00:47:27,094 The reason why this is important 928 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:29,096 is 'cause if you are delivered by C-section, 929 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:31,474 you have higher rates of a whole lot of diseases 930 00:47:31,557 --> 00:47:33,850 with immune complications 931 00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:37,271 including asthma, allergies, atopic disease, even obesity. 932 00:47:37,646 --> 00:47:39,774 They really determine who we are. 933 00:47:39,856 --> 00:47:41,359 The bushes you see around 934 00:47:41,442 --> 00:47:43,652 is a colony of many microorganisms. 935 00:47:43,736 --> 00:47:47,907 We have also a colony of many microorganisms. 936 00:47:51,202 --> 00:47:53,496 The art was part of the science 937 00:47:53,579 --> 00:47:55,414 and the science is part of the art. 938 00:47:55,498 --> 00:47:59,418 The coloring started not really just to make art, 939 00:47:59,627 --> 00:48:02,380 but for us to capture different features 940 00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:04,799 in different motives in the pattern, 941 00:48:05,174 --> 00:48:09,136 because it seems like many secrets are hidden there. 942 00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:13,182 So each time we do new experiment, we find new patterns 943 00:48:13,265 --> 00:48:16,310 and I keep like a child, wow. 944 00:48:16,394 --> 00:48:18,187 Complexity of the pattern 945 00:48:18,521 --> 00:48:21,732 reflects the fact that you have distribution of task, 946 00:48:21,816 --> 00:48:24,318 you have these dots on the colony that you see. 947 00:48:24,652 --> 00:48:26,737 There are tens of thousands, 948 00:48:26,821 --> 00:48:29,323 hundreds of thousands of bacteria that connect together, 949 00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:31,992 they hold hands and they dance together, 950 00:48:32,076 --> 00:48:33,077 they circle around, 951 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,664 and they pave the way to the colony to move on hard surfaces. 952 00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:40,584 When you have a complex pattern, when the environment changes 953 00:48:40,668 --> 00:48:42,837 and in the soil, the environment changes, 954 00:48:42,919 --> 00:48:47,007 they can change the shape, change the mix, make up of the colony, 955 00:48:47,091 --> 00:48:48,634 and adapt to the new conditions. 956 00:48:48,717 --> 00:48:50,803 This is mother nature, 957 00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:54,181 it's the microorganisms in the soil, 958 00:48:54,265 --> 00:48:58,894 and that's what makes all of the globe one big organism. 959 00:48:59,353 --> 00:49:01,897 Restoring this and rejuvenating back 960 00:49:01,981 --> 00:49:05,067 to growing your own beneficial microorganisms 961 00:49:05,151 --> 00:49:08,654 and reinoculating them into the environment 962 00:49:09,113 --> 00:49:14,326 is really the only way to turn the page into heal our forest, to heal our ocean, 963 00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:16,328 and the systems that keep us alive. 964 00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:18,706 On an ordinary day out in a... 965 00:49:18,789 --> 00:49:21,250 out walking in the park or something, 966 00:49:21,333 --> 00:49:25,129 there might be maybe a 100,000 organisms per cubic meter of air. 967 00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:27,840 But if you are out there with your brush-cutter 968 00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:29,341 on a summer's day 969 00:49:29,425 --> 00:49:30,967 or if you're in a cowshed, 970 00:49:31,051 --> 00:49:32,803 you're up to hundreds of millions. 971 00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:35,473 You're taking an enormous number of organisms 972 00:49:35,556 --> 00:49:37,099 from the natural environment. 973 00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:39,018 Our bodies are not islands. 974 00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:42,021 We are very porous creatures 975 00:49:42,104 --> 00:49:45,107 who are constantly exchanging information 976 00:49:45,232 --> 00:49:48,402 and exchanging DNA with the environment around us, 977 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:51,363 and as we go on this adventure 978 00:49:51,447 --> 00:49:55,242 to discover what makes us healthy and what keeps us in balance 979 00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:57,745 that has to be part of the equation. 980 00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:00,748 It's sort of these microscopic influences 981 00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:03,709 that have a huge amount to do with our well-being. 982 00:50:04,043 --> 00:50:06,295 So there, we're beginning to have real evidence, 983 00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:07,796 real hard evidence, 984 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,134 that exposure to the green environment is doing things to our immune systems 985 00:50:12,218 --> 00:50:15,054 which is relevant to how our immune systems function, 986 00:50:15,137 --> 00:50:17,139 which is therefore relevant to human health. 987 00:50:17,223 --> 00:50:19,892 The problem is we don't live in either a natural 988 00:50:19,975 --> 00:50:21,519 or an urban environment anymore. 989 00:50:21,644 --> 00:50:22,561 We live indoors. 990 00:50:22,645 --> 00:50:24,605 To think that we have evolved 991 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:27,816 with a contact with nature for tens of millennium, 992 00:50:28,609 --> 00:50:33,029 and to think that moving ourselves to a profoundly artificial environment 993 00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:34,657 have no consequences, 994 00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:37,243 I think it would be willfully naive to believe that. 995 00:50:37,326 --> 00:50:41,330 As of 2008, more people live in cities than in the countryside, 996 00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:42,414 all around the world. 997 00:50:42,748 --> 00:50:45,751 That's the first time in human history. 998 00:50:45,834 --> 00:50:49,547 It raises big questions about the future of our cities. 999 00:50:49,630 --> 00:50:53,759 It raises huge questions about the future of the human race. 1000 00:50:53,842 --> 00:50:55,386 That means one or two things. 1001 00:50:55,469 --> 00:50:58,222 Either the human species will continue to lose 1002 00:50:58,305 --> 00:51:00,474 whatever connection to nature it still has, 1003 00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:02,685 or it means beginning of a new kind of city. 1004 00:51:03,102 --> 00:51:05,646 If you're interested in trees and how they benefit people, 1005 00:51:05,729 --> 00:51:08,148 and ultimately you realize the trees 1006 00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:10,401 that give the greatest benefit are in cities, 1007 00:51:10,484 --> 00:51:11,652 they are near the people. 1008 00:51:11,735 --> 00:51:13,404 The paradox of an urban society, 1009 00:51:13,487 --> 00:51:16,031 we get most of our interaction with the natural environment 1010 00:51:16,115 --> 00:51:17,199 in an urban environment. 1011 00:51:17,283 --> 00:51:20,828 The Atlantic did an interesting piece about this research 1012 00:51:21,245 --> 00:51:23,414 and they had a somewhat provocative title, 1013 00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:26,041 it's "When Trees Die, People Die." 1014 00:51:26,125 --> 00:51:28,711 Where there are trees, with the nicest trees in urban areas, 1015 00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:31,338 there are also the people who tend to be whiter, wealthier, 1016 00:51:31,422 --> 00:51:33,257 they're educated, they're more privileged, 1017 00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,302 they are going to people who are gonna tend to have health outcomes. 1018 00:51:36,385 --> 00:51:38,304 I am trying to disentangle that relationship. 1019 00:51:38,387 --> 00:51:39,930 It can be tricky. 1020 00:51:40,014 --> 00:51:41,890 The cold weather nothing compared 1021 00:51:41,974 --> 00:51:44,310 to what the Emerald Ash Borer can do. 1022 00:51:44,393 --> 00:51:46,812 This tiny bug is eating its way through trees 1023 00:51:46,895 --> 00:51:49,690 and destroying landscapes all across Western New York. 1024 00:51:49,773 --> 00:51:51,233 Let's see what happens 1025 00:51:51,317 --> 00:51:53,611 when the Emerald Ash Borer spreads out from Detroit 1026 00:51:53,694 --> 00:51:55,487 and see if there are health consequences. 1027 00:51:55,571 --> 00:51:56,989 I looked at two causes of death, 1028 00:51:57,072 --> 00:52:00,367 cardiovascular disease and then lower, a respiratory disease. 1029 00:52:00,451 --> 00:52:04,622 We did see increased levels of these two types of diseases 1030 00:52:04,705 --> 00:52:07,041 in counties that were infested with Emerald Ash Borer. 1031 00:52:07,123 --> 00:52:09,251 There was a bigger impact in wealthier counties. 1032 00:52:09,335 --> 00:52:11,337 If trees are good for you, 1033 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:13,213 and we know that those wealthier counties 1034 00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:14,590 are gonna have more of them, 1035 00:52:14,673 --> 00:52:17,509 then killing those trees should have a bigger health impact 1036 00:52:17,593 --> 00:52:18,927 and that's indeed what we saw. 1037 00:52:19,011 --> 00:52:22,848 People who are at the bottom end of the socioeconomic scale 1038 00:52:22,931 --> 00:52:24,808 and are not close to green space 1039 00:52:24,892 --> 00:52:28,896 are about twice as likely to die in that five-year period 1040 00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:32,191 as they with people at the top of the socioeconomic scale, 1041 00:52:32,274 --> 00:52:34,318 as they get closer to green space. 1042 00:52:34,443 --> 00:52:36,779 So this difference between the top and the bottom 1043 00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:39,031 of the socioeconomic scale starts to disappear. 1044 00:52:39,114 --> 00:52:41,283 Most people who talk in the environmental movement 1045 00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:43,535 talk about, you know, the morality of it. 1046 00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,204 They are very stern. 1047 00:52:45,287 --> 00:52:47,956 We have to protect nature because it's the right thing to do. 1048 00:52:48,332 --> 00:52:49,708 Well, I am an economist. 1049 00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:53,169 I study selfishness, and what I understand is that, you know, 1050 00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:55,255 scolding people do things ain't very effective. 1051 00:52:55,339 --> 00:52:57,007 The type of stuff I do in other people 1052 00:52:57,091 --> 00:52:59,343 is showing that looking after a natural environment 1053 00:52:59,426 --> 00:53:00,678 is profoundly self-interest, 1054 00:53:00,761 --> 00:53:02,721 and when you appeal to people's self-interest 1055 00:53:02,805 --> 00:53:04,180 then that's a different matter. 1056 00:53:04,264 --> 00:53:05,766 You know, if you can show people 1057 00:53:05,849 --> 00:53:09,269 this is really in your best interest to do that, 1058 00:53:09,353 --> 00:53:11,355 then I think we are gonna see some change. 1059 00:53:11,605 --> 00:53:15,401 Nature deficit disorder is not a known medical diagnosis. 1060 00:53:15,484 --> 00:53:19,238 Basically what it is, is a metaphor to describe the harm 1061 00:53:19,321 --> 00:53:21,240 that comes to the human species 1062 00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:24,243 when it doesn't have much connection to the natural world. 1063 00:53:24,326 --> 00:53:26,286 And the way to show that is not by saying, 1064 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:28,580 "This kid has nature deficit disorder 1065 00:53:28,664 --> 00:53:31,375 and this kid exhibits these symptoms." 1066 00:53:31,458 --> 00:53:34,002 You could do that, but what I would rather do 1067 00:53:34,086 --> 00:53:37,256 is look at all this positive research that's come out 1068 00:53:37,339 --> 00:53:41,051 and then ask, if that's connected to the natural world, 1069 00:53:41,135 --> 00:53:43,429 what happens when you take the natural world away? 1070 00:53:43,929 --> 00:53:45,013 Shouldn't every kid, 1071 00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:49,935 and in fact, I think every adult have a right to the benefits 1072 00:53:50,269 --> 00:53:51,687 of being in the natural world. 1073 00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:54,940 Really what it gets down to the small choices about, you know, 1074 00:53:55,023 --> 00:53:57,025 we plant a tree here, we preserve a part here. 1075 00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:59,570 That's what's gonna really make the day-to-day difference 1076 00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:01,237 in people's lives, I believe. 1077 00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:05,117 I was in a hotel room one day in San Francisco 1078 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,327 and I picked up one of those magazines 1079 00:54:07,411 --> 00:54:10,289 that you wonder where they come from in the hotel rooms, 1080 00:54:10,372 --> 00:54:12,916 and I was flipping through it and I looked at the back page 1081 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,918 and there was this black and white photograph 1082 00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:16,211 of a little boy on a beach. 1083 00:54:16,295 --> 00:54:18,630 He's running along and his eyes are filled with life, 1084 00:54:18,714 --> 00:54:22,342 and the story next to this photograph said this little boy had a problem. 1085 00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,386 He had the wiggles, he couldn't sit still. 1086 00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:26,013 He was disruptive in class. 1087 00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:27,598 The school finally kicked him out. 1088 00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:30,434 The parents were upset, of course. 1089 00:54:31,018 --> 00:54:32,478 But they had been very observant. 1090 00:54:32,561 --> 00:54:36,982 They noticed how a little bit of time in nature 1091 00:54:37,065 --> 00:54:40,819 helped their little boy calm himself and focus. 1092 00:54:40,903 --> 00:54:43,155 So for the next ten years they took their little boy 1093 00:54:43,238 --> 00:54:46,074 all over the great western wilderness areas. 1094 00:54:46,158 --> 00:54:47,534 Now, the kid turned out okay. 1095 00:54:47,618 --> 00:54:49,620 The photograph was taken in 1906. 1096 00:54:49,703 --> 00:54:51,538 The little boy's name was Ansel Adams. 1097 00:54:52,247 --> 00:54:53,248 So here's a question. 1098 00:54:53,332 --> 00:54:55,751 What would have happened if they had taken little Ansel 1099 00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:57,669 and put him in a chair in front of a desk, 1100 00:54:57,753 --> 00:54:58,879 in front of a computer, 1101 00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:00,130 telling him to sit there, 1102 00:55:00,214 --> 00:55:01,757 take chess all day, 1103 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,885 canceled recess, which more and more schools are doing, 1104 00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:06,302 cancel field trips, 1105 00:55:06,386 --> 00:55:08,680 lengthen the school day, lengthen the school, 1106 00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:10,140 and then given him Ritalin? 1107 00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:13,352 Would we have the gifts of nature that Ansel gave us? 1108 00:55:13,435 --> 00:55:15,187 Would we have the political support 1109 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:17,147 such as it is for the national parks 1110 00:55:17,231 --> 00:55:18,690 without his photographs? 1111 00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:22,945 How many little Ansels and Anselets are out there right now 1112 00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:25,447 who can give us great gifts in the future 1113 00:55:25,531 --> 00:55:27,741 if we give them the great gift of nature now? 1114 00:55:28,033 --> 00:55:31,870 Kind of been slowly peeling back the story 1115 00:55:31,954 --> 00:55:34,832 of what is ailing Hawaiians. 1116 00:55:34,915 --> 00:55:36,708 Finally this afternoon, 1117 00:55:36,792 --> 00:55:40,462 we started to get at a glimmer of amazing hope 1118 00:55:40,963 --> 00:55:44,258 for how to heal by seeing these kids, 1119 00:55:44,340 --> 00:55:47,010 by reconnecting to that land 1120 00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:49,263 and really understanding how to grow things, 1121 00:55:49,345 --> 00:55:52,683 and how to nourish themselves, and how to nourish the soil... 1122 00:55:52,766 --> 00:55:54,893 Their soil can make themselves healthy. 1123 00:55:54,977 --> 00:55:57,187 Working with the kids has been so powerful 1124 00:55:57,271 --> 00:56:00,941 because showing them that the earth is alive at a young age 1125 00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:03,110 really will impact how they grow up. 1126 00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:05,237 Are they gonna be going and buying Roundup? 1127 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,824 Are they gonna be going out to their soil and realizing it's alive 1128 00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:13,412 and really feeling that heart space connection to caring for the land? 1129 00:56:13,495 --> 00:56:17,583 The kids here, they need economic opportunity 1130 00:56:17,666 --> 00:56:19,751 and through this agricultural practices 1131 00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,670 where it's affordable to do, 1132 00:56:21,753 --> 00:56:23,672 where it's environmentally sound, 1133 00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:28,468 I believe it will give everyone in this area a great opportunity 1134 00:56:28,552 --> 00:56:29,970 to have a great life 1135 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:31,638 and to provide for their family 1136 00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:33,389 and to be happy everyday. 1137 00:56:33,473 --> 00:56:36,392 Until you started doing this natural farming 1138 00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:38,437 and realizing that the earth is alive, 1139 00:56:39,146 --> 00:56:41,064 it changes your whole perspective. 1140 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,567 It just made me so much more conscientious 1141 00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:44,735 in every part of my life, 1142 00:56:44,818 --> 00:56:47,195 brought so much more respect to the whole systems 1143 00:56:47,279 --> 00:56:50,657 that are naturally there providing such abundance already. 1144 00:57:05,005 --> 00:57:06,465 So I went to the Marche region, 1145 00:57:06,798 --> 00:57:09,968 it's like a fantasy land for agroecologists. 1146 00:57:10,052 --> 00:57:12,846 They have been farming in these little plots 1147 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:14,598 for hundreds of years, 1148 00:57:14,681 --> 00:57:16,725 ever since the Benedictines 1149 00:57:16,808 --> 00:57:19,061 who were like the original hippies, 1150 00:57:19,144 --> 00:57:22,230 who went there and started to create 1151 00:57:22,314 --> 00:57:25,192 these little farms with their monasteries, 1152 00:57:25,275 --> 00:57:28,153 and the soil there is very healthy and it's very beautiful. 1153 00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:29,780 Ninety-two. 1154 00:57:29,863 --> 00:57:31,448 Ninety-two? 1155 00:57:31,573 --> 00:57:33,325 You're 92 years old. 1156 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,836 Bravo! 1157 00:58:09,695 --> 00:58:11,822 This is the basic belief of the monastic life. 1158 00:58:11,905 --> 00:58:14,157 We pray at dawn when the light is barely coming up. 1159 00:58:14,241 --> 00:58:20,914 You feel like you are a part of this breath of the earth. 1160 00:58:20,998 --> 00:58:24,543 A rebirth. 1161 00:58:24,626 --> 00:58:29,006 This is a vital rhythm for every one of us. 1162 00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:34,094 A rhythm that synchronizes you with the earth as it breathes. 1163 00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:40,600 Our philosophy, above all, is that we are stewards of creation. 1164 00:58:40,684 --> 00:58:45,605 That is to say, the caretakers of the earth, which gives us everything. 1165 00:58:53,822 --> 00:58:55,198 When is someone healthy? 1166 00:58:55,282 --> 00:59:00,287 When that person acts and lives and forgets about himself or herself. 1167 00:59:00,370 --> 00:59:03,874 It's also known for being the place in Europe 1168 00:59:03,957 --> 00:59:06,043 that has the most centenarians, 1169 00:59:06,126 --> 00:59:08,420 people who are over a hundred years old. 1170 00:59:10,964 --> 00:59:14,092 In one year, we celebrated five people turning 100, 1171 00:59:14,176 --> 00:59:19,598 which is a very high percentage compared to the 38,000 residents. 1172 00:59:23,518 --> 00:59:30,484 I believe this is because our region has always focused on 1173 00:59:30,942 --> 00:59:37,491 well-being through food and work. 1174 00:59:40,243 --> 00:59:43,205 It's not about preventing sickness... 1175 00:59:43,872 --> 00:59:47,667 but promoting health. 1176 00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:51,129 The main difference between the two is this: 1177 00:59:51,546 --> 00:59:54,299 prevention tries to ward of disease. 1178 00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:57,260 While promotion seeks to maintain, 1179 00:59:57,344 --> 00:59:59,012 exalt, and increase health. 1180 01:00:00,806 --> 01:00:04,101 Most of all, our region has placed 1181 01:00:04,184 --> 01:00:08,772 great importance on agriculture. 1182 01:00:15,654 --> 01:00:20,742 There's this elder sister who gardens with lots of love 1183 01:00:23,245 --> 01:00:28,166 and she talks to the plants. 1184 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:34,798 She talks to the land, with the plants, 1185 01:00:35,132 --> 01:00:39,177 with tomatoes, with the flowers. 1186 01:00:40,011 --> 01:00:46,852 They're not people, but they might need something, like more water... 1187 01:00:47,227 --> 01:00:53,400 or you may need to wait before planting another seed. 1188 01:00:55,569 --> 01:00:58,029 They're fragile! Be careful! The beans! 1189 01:00:58,113 --> 01:01:01,575 They're fragile! I am so sorry. I don't want to hurt the beans. 1190 01:01:06,663 --> 01:01:07,789 I am sorry. 1191 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:14,838 Hello. I am so honored. 1192 01:01:16,047 --> 01:01:18,466 This is a doctor who comes from America. 1193 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:19,885 And? 1194 01:01:21,011 --> 01:01:23,722 Let's go so they can ask you questions for a little bit. 1195 01:01:23,847 --> 01:01:27,392 What questions are they going to ask me? 1196 01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:30,145 Don't worry, you'll have a response. 1197 01:01:30,228 --> 01:01:31,813 What if I don't? 1198 01:01:31,897 --> 01:01:33,648 Then I'll tell it to you. 1199 01:01:33,732 --> 01:01:36,151 Come on and she'll give you the answers. 1200 01:01:40,113 --> 01:01:42,490 Let's go. Come on. Careful, come on. 1201 01:01:42,574 --> 01:01:44,910 She's moving faster than everybody else. 1202 01:01:55,003 --> 01:01:57,172 - How old? - Ninety-six now. 1203 01:01:57,255 --> 01:01:58,840 This is how you live to be 96. 1204 01:01:59,674 --> 01:02:00,884 Right here. 1205 01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:04,554 You can see that she works. 1206 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:06,932 Should I help? No? 1207 01:02:09,392 --> 01:02:10,810 She climbs that tree. 1208 01:02:10,936 --> 01:02:12,562 She climbs those trees? 1209 01:02:12,646 --> 01:02:13,647 - Yes. - No. 1210 01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,774 She climbs that tree to get fruit? 1211 01:02:15,857 --> 01:02:17,317 Yes, for taking the fruit. 1212 01:02:18,485 --> 01:02:20,403 Yes, you do, to pick the fruit! 1213 01:02:20,528 --> 01:02:21,947 No. There's isn't any now. 1214 01:02:22,072 --> 01:02:23,865 We know that there's no more. 1215 01:02:23,949 --> 01:02:25,492 Now it's finished, the fruit. 1216 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:27,160 They are all down. So she threw... 1217 01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:29,037 She threw down. 1218 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,622 No more peach. 1219 01:02:30,705 --> 01:02:32,040 All that's left are apples. 1220 01:02:32,123 --> 01:02:33,875 Okay, we don't have to worry about her. 1221 01:02:33,959 --> 01:02:35,877 Where does this go? 1222 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:47,931 You came here when you were a child, right? 1223 01:02:48,014 --> 01:02:50,058 Yes, I was five. 1224 01:02:50,141 --> 01:02:52,310 This I haven't told you. 1225 01:02:52,394 --> 01:02:55,605 She always had a fever and was sick as a child 1226 01:02:55,689 --> 01:02:57,732 so they sent her to a hospital, all the way to Rome, 1227 01:02:57,816 --> 01:03:00,193 and they couldn't find any medicine to cure her. 1228 01:03:01,152 --> 01:03:03,113 The Abbess wanted us to work, 1229 01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:05,490 but I thought she meant she wanted us to visit the fields. 1230 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:07,784 She thought she was visiting. 1231 01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:09,744 She didn't realize they had sent her to work. 1232 01:03:10,036 --> 01:03:13,456 When you came and worked the earth, you felt better, right? 1233 01:03:14,249 --> 01:03:15,083 Yes. 1234 01:03:15,166 --> 01:03:19,337 Because she's spent her whole life here 1235 01:03:19,421 --> 01:03:23,591 at the monastery dedicated to this work, 1236 01:03:24,009 --> 01:03:27,345 she knows everything that has been put on this land. 1237 01:03:27,429 --> 01:03:28,972 She understands all of it. 1238 01:03:30,223 --> 01:03:32,642 What're you doing? 1239 01:03:32,726 --> 01:03:34,477 Why don't you get lost? 1240 01:03:37,439 --> 01:03:41,109 What I want to talk to you right now is about what we have lost. 1241 01:03:41,192 --> 01:03:43,320 When we move away from those little fields 1242 01:03:43,403 --> 01:03:44,988 in the Marche region, 1243 01:03:45,071 --> 01:03:47,073 what are the health things that we have lost? 1244 01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:51,161 Because these are all parts of argoecology, crop diversity, 1245 01:03:51,286 --> 01:03:53,663 perennials and native seeds, traditional technologies, 1246 01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:56,082 soil vitality, community, 1247 01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:59,044 but what they really are is health. 1248 01:04:00,253 --> 01:04:02,922 I was operated on because I had pancreatic tumor. 1249 01:04:03,006 --> 01:04:05,175 All the doctors asked, "What are you still doing here? 1250 01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:08,178 Why aren't you already in heaven?" 1251 01:04:08,261 --> 01:04:11,473 - You had a tumor in your pancreas? - Yes. 1252 01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,141 How long ago was that? 1253 01:04:13,433 --> 01:04:14,559 Nine years ago. 1254 01:04:15,226 --> 01:04:18,271 You had a pancreatic tumor nine years ago? 1255 01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:23,568 Pancreas, stomach, liver, gall bladder, intestines... 1256 01:04:23,902 --> 01:04:25,111 all over. 1257 01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:28,448 And I am still here to be able to tell this story. 1258 01:04:28,531 --> 01:04:29,949 Are they studying you 1259 01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:32,410 or are they from the scientific standpoint? 1260 01:04:32,494 --> 01:04:35,872 You are a miracle. 1261 01:04:36,915 --> 01:04:39,667 I'm here by the grace of God that keeps me here. 1262 01:04:39,793 --> 01:04:42,545 But also thanks to my joyfulness and desire to live in nature, 1263 01:04:42,921 --> 01:04:45,548 not just food, not just things, 1264 01:04:45,632 --> 01:04:50,095 but everything in our lives is connected to nature. 1265 01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:54,265 Everything that I feel and experience... 1266 01:04:55,683 --> 01:04:59,687 contributes to my physical, spiritual, and moral health. 1267 01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:06,945 Can you give us a rundown of this? 1268 01:05:07,028 --> 01:05:09,572 - Just give me one second, okay? - Yeah. 1269 01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,914 Padre Giovanni just shared stuff 1270 01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:20,917 that was incredibly personal to him 1271 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,629 and that I didn't get the sense that he talks about it all the time, 1272 01:05:25,713 --> 01:05:28,383 and it affected me very deeply. 1273 01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:30,552 He just got so much of the crux, 1274 01:05:31,886 --> 01:05:34,722 what I am trying to understand about those connections 1275 01:05:34,806 --> 01:05:38,017 between our bodies and the earth 1276 01:05:38,101 --> 01:05:39,936 and he is just living this every day. 1277 01:05:40,019 --> 01:05:44,357 For him it's his awareness, 1278 01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:46,443 it's his existence, 1279 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,612 and that story about him 1280 01:05:49,696 --> 01:05:52,323 getting pancreatic cancer nine years ago, 1281 01:05:52,407 --> 01:05:53,700 I mean, the life expectancy 1282 01:05:53,825 --> 01:05:58,496 from what sounds like he had metastatic pancreatic cancer 1283 01:05:58,580 --> 01:05:59,664 he had in his gut, 1284 01:05:59,747 --> 01:06:02,125 and everything is three to six months, 1285 01:06:03,334 --> 01:06:06,212 and it's really amazing. 1286 01:06:06,296 --> 01:06:08,423 He said he did all the medical treatments 1287 01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:11,468 but there was this other side of what he did, 1288 01:06:11,551 --> 01:06:17,474 which possibly was the reason that he's still with us 1289 01:06:17,557 --> 01:06:19,851 nine years later. 1290 01:06:23,271 --> 01:06:26,733 People talk about healing the earth, the earth heals us. 1291 01:06:26,816 --> 01:06:28,735 Look around us and see the beauty. 1292 01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:32,405 I mean, every sunrise and every sunset, every rain shower 1293 01:06:32,489 --> 01:06:36,326 and every breeze and every cloud is so magnificent. 1294 01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:38,995 I mean, what more beauty could there have been? 1295 01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:41,706 Even when we're living in a city 1296 01:06:41,789 --> 01:06:45,168 on the 30th floor of a concrete high-rise, 1297 01:06:45,251 --> 01:06:47,670 we have to start to think of ourselves 1298 01:06:47,754 --> 01:06:50,673 as part of an agroecological cycle. 1299 01:06:50,757 --> 01:06:54,677 Only with that mentality are we gonna actually leave something 1300 01:06:54,761 --> 01:06:56,596 for our children and our grandchildren. 1301 01:06:56,971 --> 01:06:58,097 Thank you. 1302 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:04,062 So increasingly, instead of saying "sustainable," 1303 01:07:04,145 --> 01:07:05,730 I say, "nature rich." 1304 01:07:06,314 --> 01:07:08,358 What does a nature rich city look like? 1305 01:07:08,441 --> 01:07:11,736 A nature rich future, a nature rich yard, 1306 01:07:11,819 --> 01:07:13,530 built with native species 1307 01:07:13,613 --> 01:07:15,490 that bring back butterfly migration routes 1308 01:07:15,573 --> 01:07:16,866 and bird migration routes. 1309 01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:18,368 What does that future look like? 1310 01:07:18,451 --> 01:07:21,204 When you begin to use terminology like a "nature rich city," 1311 01:07:21,287 --> 01:07:23,998 people can see that in their minds, and I can tell you, 1312 01:07:24,082 --> 01:07:26,501 particularly young people resonate to that. 1313 01:07:26,584 --> 01:07:28,753 They want to go there, they want to create that. 1314 01:07:29,128 --> 01:07:30,755 We humans are so arrogant 1315 01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:33,424 that we think the hypothesis that we come up with 1316 01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,051 actually have anything to do 1317 01:07:35,134 --> 01:07:37,845 with the complexity of the world around us. 1318 01:07:37,929 --> 01:07:40,848 So "ai" in Hawaiian means to eat, 1319 01:07:41,391 --> 01:07:42,850 means food, 1320 01:07:43,518 --> 01:07:45,395 means reproduction, 1321 01:07:47,272 --> 01:07:51,651 and then "na" is in reference to the land. 1322 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,779 So it's the land that feeds us. 1323 01:07:54,862 --> 01:07:57,323 You are the servant to the land. 1324 01:07:57,699 --> 01:08:01,035 So that land doesn't only mean land, it also means the ocean. 1325 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,495 Right? Everything in nature, 1326 01:08:02,579 --> 01:08:06,332 you are the servant to nature in order to live. 1327 01:08:06,416 --> 01:08:09,836 There's a movement that is sometimes called the new agrarians. 1328 01:08:10,211 --> 01:08:14,299 These are often young people who are dedicated to organic farming 1329 01:08:14,382 --> 01:08:15,717 near a city or in a city. 1330 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,552 They are changing their neighborhoods. 1331 01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:19,429 They are really dedicated 1332 01:08:19,512 --> 01:08:23,016 to creating a different kind of food distribution. 1333 01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:25,143 The attitude that we're now developing 1334 01:08:25,226 --> 01:08:28,104 is a much more humble and modest attitude 1335 01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:31,608 where we essentially say, we really don't understand nature, 1336 01:08:31,691 --> 01:08:34,193 but we will listen to it in an unbiased way 1337 01:08:34,277 --> 01:08:37,739 and will let the wisdom and the intelligence of nature 1338 01:08:37,822 --> 01:08:40,575 tell us how it's working and how it's operating. 1339 01:08:40,908 --> 01:08:44,871 So we're really starting to think about how all these parts interconnect, 1340 01:08:44,954 --> 01:08:46,831 not just to keep the land healthy 1341 01:08:46,914 --> 01:08:48,916 and not just to keep the air healthy 1342 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,418 but also to keep us healthy. 1343 01:08:50,668 --> 01:08:52,920 The big challenge of life in general 1344 01:08:53,004 --> 01:08:54,422 is trying to find balance 1345 01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:57,091 and once you find it, trying to maintain balance, 1346 01:08:57,175 --> 01:09:01,554 it's not a goal that you achieve and then that's it. 1347 01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:04,098 The balance is always gonna shift again 1348 01:09:04,182 --> 01:09:06,059 and then you'll have to regain the balance. 1349 01:09:06,142 --> 01:09:08,269 It's something that's constantly adapting, 1350 01:09:08,353 --> 01:09:11,773 constantly moving with thousands of different variables, 1351 01:09:12,231 --> 01:09:14,734 and that, in fact, is balance. 1352 01:09:15,026 --> 01:09:18,071 Almost everything is organized in interconnected systems, 1353 01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:20,948 from the simplest systems to the most complex ones. 1354 01:09:21,032 --> 01:09:24,494 There is a natural law that when systems organize, 1355 01:09:24,577 --> 01:09:27,538 they will obey one, just like the law of gravity. 1356 01:09:27,622 --> 01:09:29,499 You can say there is a higher intelligence 1357 01:09:29,582 --> 01:09:32,502 that used to design to create the universe 1358 01:09:32,585 --> 01:09:35,963 by very beautiful, simple design that is scalable, 1359 01:09:36,047 --> 01:09:39,008 that can be used in tiny little networks of insects, 1360 01:09:39,092 --> 01:09:41,052 so ants talking to each other. 1361 01:09:41,135 --> 01:09:43,262 There's two ways of explaining it as an engineer 1362 01:09:43,346 --> 01:09:44,889 or as a spiritual person, 1363 01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:47,767 and I think at the moment, they are both equally valid. 1364 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:55,942 Awareness of interconnectedness 1365 01:09:56,025 --> 01:09:58,152 is increasing in leaps and bounds 1366 01:09:58,236 --> 01:10:01,572 as the new age of globalization accelerates. 1367 01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,616 Our civilization has evolved, 1368 01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:07,412 emphasizing the separation into parts for too long, 1369 01:10:07,995 --> 01:10:12,083 on this realization of unbroken wholeness, 1370 01:10:12,166 --> 01:10:14,669 our future may depend.