1 00:00:07.841 --> 00:00:09.717 Iceberg, right ahead! 2 00:00:09.718 --> 00:00:12.562 This is the part of Titanic's story we all know. 3 00:00:18.435 --> 00:00:21.275 But what happened to Titanic after the last eyewitness 4 00:00:21.276 --> 00:00:23.273 saw her slip beneath the surface? 5 00:00:26.944 --> 00:00:29.948 Titanic is the perfect unsolved murder mystery. 6 00:00:30.155 --> 00:00:33.910 It hit there, but then it kind of whiplashes when it hits the ground back here. 7 00:00:33.911 --> 00:00:36.456 What happened in the final minutes of the ship? 8 00:00:36.457 --> 00:00:39.457 How did it break up? How did it fall? How did it hit the bottom? 9 00:00:39.458 --> 00:00:41.499 Why did she sink so fast? 10 00:00:41.500 --> 00:00:43.628 Could more lives have been saved? 11 00:00:43.629 --> 00:00:46.587 Did I get the details right in the feature film? 12 00:00:46.588 --> 00:00:49.215 No, I'm talking about the sinking, the way you depicted the sinking. 13 00:00:49.216 --> 00:00:50.736 We didn't do it 'cause we didn't know. 14 00:00:51.134 --> 00:00:53.557 For the first time ever, I've gathered all the evidence 15 00:00:53.558 --> 00:00:56.931 and eight of the world's leading Titanic experts 16 00:00:56.932 --> 00:00:58.730 all together, in one place. 17 00:00:59.643 --> 00:01:00.982 Some have been to the wreck, 18 00:01:00.983 --> 00:01:03.149 some approach it through the testimony, 19 00:01:03.150 --> 00:01:05.693 some approach it through the physical forensics. 20 00:01:05.694 --> 00:01:07.155 We respectfully disagree. 21 00:01:07.156 --> 00:01:11.492 No one gets out of this room until we piece together, once and for all, 22 00:01:11.493 --> 00:01:14.780 what happened in Titanic's final minutes. 23 00:01:14.790 --> 00:01:16.702 We're going to argue. I guarantee it. It'll get heated. 24 00:01:17.661 --> 00:01:19.375 Coincidence? There's no coincidence. 25 00:01:19.376 --> 00:01:20.960 There's no such thing as coincidence. 26 00:01:20.961 --> 00:01:22.820 - I agree. - No. 27 00:01:23.542 --> 00:01:26.794 Now, on the 100th anniversary of the tragedy, 28 00:01:26.795 --> 00:01:29.514 fifteen years after the film's initial release, 29 00:01:30.632 --> 00:01:32.634 it's time for the final word 30 00:01:33.385 --> 00:01:35.479 on what really happened to Titanic. 31 00:01:41.351 --> 00:01:44.480 Mir I, Mir I. Jake is coming out of his search. Over. 32 00:01:44.771 --> 00:01:46.318 Here he comes. He's out. 33 00:01:56.330 --> 00:01:59.412 I feel like I've lived on Titanic certainly much longer than 34 00:01:59.413 --> 00:02:03.257 any of the people who were actually involved in the event did. 35 00:02:03.999 --> 00:02:07.799 I've got it ingrained in my memory. I could walk the ship in my sleep. 36 00:02:14.510 --> 00:02:15.553 Keep lowering! 37 00:02:24.853 --> 00:02:26.520 When I see the model, 38 00:02:26.521 --> 00:02:32.818 it just brings back to me all those nights of shooting with the crowds, 39 00:02:32.819 --> 00:02:35.368 running and screaming up the decks. 40 00:02:38.909 --> 00:02:41.207 Then going back to one and doing it ail again. 41 00:02:47.751 --> 00:02:48.923 See you in the sunshine. 42 00:02:56.176 --> 00:03:00.431 For me, film-making comes out of my desire to explore unknown worlds. 43 00:03:01.431 --> 00:03:03.852 You want to see Titanic on the sonar? Check this out, bro. 44 00:03:03.853 --> 00:03:04.942 You're gonna love this. 45 00:03:08.438 --> 00:03:12.443 I wanted to dive the wreck more than I wanted to make the movie. 46 00:03:12.984 --> 00:03:16.454 Diving the wreck was my way into the story. 47 00:03:17.614 --> 00:03:19.537 - There she is, baby. - Oh, yeah. 48 00:03:23.745 --> 00:03:25.622 It's a dream come true for me. 49 00:03:29.501 --> 00:03:31.799 Titanic does not give up her secrets easily. 50 00:03:36.174 --> 00:03:37.425 The more you work on this, 51 00:03:37.426 --> 00:03:40.600 the more you can bring it into focus and fill in the gaps. 52 00:03:41.805 --> 00:03:43.603 And there are some enigmas. 53 00:03:44.570 --> 00:03:45.850 Thank: is like a fractal, 54 00:03:45.851 --> 00:03:49.651 the closer you get to it, the more you see completely new patterns. 55 00:03:52.274 --> 00:03:55.528 There have been a lot of ideas, a lot of theories. 56 00:03:55.529 --> 00:03:57.690 It's time to just say, 57 00:03:57.700 --> 00:04:00.290 "This is what really happened, to the best of our collective knowledge." 58 00:04:01.491 --> 00:04:04.994 This shouldn't be all sort of nicey-nicey, blowing pink smoke around. 59 00:04:04.995 --> 00:04:06.120 Let's beat it up. 60 00:04:06.121 --> 00:04:08.795 That's the best way to arrive at an answer that makes sense. 61 00:04:08.796 --> 00:04:14.342 My Titanic dream team includes Ken Marschall, artist, visual historian. 62 00:04:14.880 --> 00:04:19.681 P. H-Nargeolet, explorer, Underwater Operations, RMS Titanic. 63 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:24.516 Bill Sauder, historian, Director of Research, RMS Titanic. 64 00:04:24.973 --> 00:04:27.476 Parks Stephenson, Naval Systems Engineer. 65 00:04:27.893 --> 00:04:31.898 Don Lynch, Chief Historian of the Titanic Historical Society. 66 00:04:31.899 --> 00:04:36.698 Dave Gallo, Director of Special Projects at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. 67 00:04:37.110 --> 00:04:41.365 Commander Jeffrey Stettler, Naval Architect, US Naval Academy. 68 00:04:41.698 --> 00:04:45.748 Brian Thomas, Coast Guard Naval Architect and Salvage Engineer. 69 00:04:46.703 --> 00:04:49.456 We have the team and the tools. 70 00:04:50.791 --> 00:04:54.216 From hundreds of hours of my expedition dive footage, 71 00:04:54.217 --> 00:04:57.306 to deck plans and survivor testimony, 72 00:04:58.298 --> 00:05:00.490 we're going to take all we learned 73 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:02.428 and create a new visualization of the sinking. 74 00:05:03.512 --> 00:05:05.638 From iceberg to bottom, 75 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:09.234 it's never been animated so precisely and so dramatically. 76 00:05:09.768 --> 00:05:12.612 We're determined, once and for all, to learn what happened 77 00:05:12.613 --> 00:05:16.732 after Titanic disappeared beneath the surface 100 years ago. 78 00:05:16.733 --> 00:05:19.655 It's a good, just kind of drive-a-stake-in-the-ground moment 79 00:05:19.656 --> 00:05:21.747 for us to say, "Let's get the history right." 80 00:05:22.572 --> 00:05:26.418 To me, the exercise of making the movie and preparing to make the movie 81 00:05:26.419 --> 00:05:30.204 was about understanding history. 82 00:05:30.205 --> 00:05:31.582 Like, what is history? 83 00:05:31.583 --> 00:05:35.167 History is this kind of consensus hallucination. 84 00:05:35.168 --> 00:05:39.463 There are some people who, they tell the story like it happened yesterday. 85 00:05:39.464 --> 00:05:42.388 And then there are others who, over the years, have been telling the story 86 00:05:42.389 --> 00:05:44.305 and the story changes, you know? So, yeah. 87 00:05:44.306 --> 00:05:47.600 And how much does the telling of the story become the memory, 88 00:05:47.601 --> 00:05:49.224 as opposed to the memory itself? 89 00:05:50.100 --> 00:05:53.936 Our task here is to separate perception from truth. 90 00:05:53.937 --> 00:05:56.650 So what is it that we know for sure? 91 00:05:57.230 --> 00:06:01.244 At the time of her construction, “tank: was the largest ship ever built, 92 00:06:01.736 --> 00:06:07.783 882 feet and nine inches long and standing nearly 20 stories high. 93 00:06:07.784 --> 00:06:10.503 Her weight was over 46,000 tons. 94 00:06:12.414 --> 00:06:14.792 Her hull spanned four city blocks. 95 00:06:19.379 --> 00:06:23.465 She had nine decks encompassing 370 first-class cabins, 96 00:06:23.466 --> 00:06:26.302 168 second-class cabins, 97 00:06:26.303 --> 00:06:28.852 and 297 third-class cabins. 98 00:06:30.515 --> 00:06:34.650 Accommodations for up to 3,547 people. 99 00:06:46.156 --> 00:06:49.330 Mechanically, she was state of the art, 100 00:06:49.340 --> 00:06:53.164 fitted with 29 boilers and 159 furnaces. 101 00:06:54.372 --> 00:06:57.501 Each of her steam engines was the size of a three-story house. 102 00:06:59.169 --> 00:07:02.594 Over 6,000 tons of coal filled her coal bunkers. 103 00:07:05.216 --> 00:07:10.679 From her innovative double-bottom keel, to her 16 water-tight compartments, 104 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.103 Titanic was considered unsinkable. 105 00:07:20.273 --> 00:07:23.195 Each compartment had doors that were designed to dose automatically 106 00:07:23.196 --> 00:07:25.195 if the water level rose above a certain height. 107 00:07:26.363 --> 00:07:28.202 Titanic would be able to stay afloat 108 00:07:28.203 --> 00:07:32.440 if any two compartments or the first four became flooded. 109 00:07:34.371 --> 00:07:36.850 According to her builders, 110 00:07:36.860 --> 00:07:41.800 even in the worst possible accident at sea, Titanic was virtually unsinkable. 111 00:07:52.973 --> 00:07:55.567 - Iceberg, right ahead! - Thank you. 112 00:07:56.810 --> 00:08:02.314 But we know that on April 14, 1912, Titanic sideswiped an iceberg 113 00:08:02.315 --> 00:08:04.400 and sank in two hours and 40 minutes. 114 00:08:04.401 --> 00:08:05.402 Full astern! 115 00:08:07.862 --> 00:08:09.910 - Hard over. - Helm's hard over, sir. 116 00:08:18.123 --> 00:08:19.625 Why ain't they turning? 117 00:08:19.626 --> 00:08:23.490 - Is it hard over?! - It is. Yes sir. Hard over. 118 00:08:34.180 --> 00:08:37.730 One hundred years later, this is what's left of Titanic, 119 00:08:38.435 --> 00:08:40.608 a tangled wreck on the ocean floor. 120 00:08:41.312 --> 00:08:43.440 Thousands of broken pieces. 121 00:08:44.733 --> 00:08:46.697 But from her rust-covered remains, 122 00:08:46.698 --> 00:08:50.243 we may still be able to figure out what happened in her last moments. 123 00:08:53.366 --> 00:08:56.370 Well, it's very important to find out where all the objects wound up. 124 00:08:56.371 --> 00:08:58.790 And then you can work backwards from that 125 00:08:58.791 --> 00:09:01.758 to sort of reconstruct how the processes got started. 126 00:09:05.378 --> 00:09:08.520 You've got to peel away the bottom impact, 127 00:09:08.798 --> 00:09:11.800 and you got to understand what happened in the water column, 128 00:09:11.801 --> 00:09:13.801 you got to understand what happened at the surface. 129 00:09:14.804 --> 00:09:16.850 Then maybe you can work your way back 130 00:09:16.851 --> 00:09:19.397 to what actually set off the sinking in the first place. 131 00:09:20.310 --> 00:09:22.274 It's like a murder-mystery case 132 00:09:22.275 --> 00:09:24.146 where some piece of evidence is an outlier. 133 00:09:24.147 --> 00:09:25.486 Everything fits perfectly, 134 00:09:25.487 --> 00:09:28.905 but there's one outlying piece of evidence, and it seems so trivial, 135 00:09:28.906 --> 00:09:30.741 and yet it unwinds everything else. 136 00:09:30.742 --> 00:09:32.865 It's a great forensic process to go through. 137 00:09:32.866 --> 00:09:36.368 It's the same thing that they do at an NTSB analysis of a crash site 138 00:09:36.369 --> 00:09:37.493 for an airliner. 139 00:09:37.494 --> 00:09:39.454 You know, "How did that engine get way over there? 140 00:09:39.496 --> 00:09:41.455 "How did that wind up two miles back?" 141 00:09:41.456 --> 00:09:43.550 You know, you can't really piece together what happened 142 00:09:43.551 --> 00:09:47.466 until you can account for every single piece and where it got there. 143 00:09:49.130 --> 00:09:52.134 Four hundred miles off the coast of Newfoundland, 144 00:09:52.135 --> 00:09:55.433 and two and a half miles beneath the surface of the North Atlantic, 145 00:09:55.434 --> 00:09:56.975 lies Titanic. 146 00:09:58.140 --> 00:10:00.854 The wreck site spans a mile of the sea floor, 147 00:10:00.855 --> 00:10:02.602 and is anything but accessible. 148 00:10:05.772 --> 00:10:09.695 It takes about two-and-a-half hours to descend in a submersible. 149 00:10:09.696 --> 00:10:11.740 Daylight doesn't reach this depth. 150 00:10:11.986 --> 00:10:13.488 It's eternal darkness. 151 00:10:15.198 --> 00:10:19.440 Here, we find the bow and stern section 2,000 feet apart. 152 00:10:21.412 --> 00:10:24.915 We find the ship's boilers clustered east of the stern. 153 00:10:24.916 --> 00:10:27.419 Cargo cranes sheared from the deck. 154 00:10:29.300 --> 00:10:30.880 Broken pieces of funnel. 155 00:10:32.132 --> 00:10:33.759 Ground-up shell plating. 156 00:10:34.467 --> 00:10:37.220 Sections of the ship's keel, or double bottom. 157 00:10:38.263 --> 00:10:41.686 Rudders and propellers pinned in the sediment, intact. 158 00:10:41.687 --> 00:10:43.435 An open shell door at D deck. 159 00:10:44.185 --> 00:10:47.146 There are sewing plates, tea cups, shoes, 160 00:10:47.147 --> 00:10:49.982 countless personal artifacts. 161 00:10:49.983 --> 00:10:52.818 These are all clues in the mystery. 162 00:10:52.819 --> 00:10:55.572 What caused this magnitude of destruction? 163 00:10:56.698 --> 00:10:58.871 How can we begin to make sense of it? 164 00:11:00.326 --> 00:11:02.873 So, it's good to wrap our heads around this. 165 00:11:02.874 --> 00:11:05.294 So, now you start looking at a debris field map. 166 00:11:08.126 --> 00:11:11.596 It's part of that crime scene recreation 167 00:11:12.255 --> 00:11:16.910 of seeing everything on this macro level. 168 00:11:16.920 --> 00:11:20.554 We can get down to individual images of each individual piece, 169 00:11:20.555 --> 00:11:24.605 but you need the context of it, to keep that forest in sight. 170 00:11:24.606 --> 00:11:28.353 You have to have that map of the wreck site 171 00:11:28.354 --> 00:11:30.448 to do any meaningful forensics. 172 00:11:31.649 --> 00:11:35.861 Titanic's bow and stern are torn in two and lie apart, 173 00:11:35.862 --> 00:11:37.783 like a crime scene where the body and head 174 00:11:37.784 --> 00:11:39.782 are on opposite sides of the room. 175 00:11:41.701 --> 00:11:43.544 You can see it. You can see it on the 176 00:11:45.205 --> 00:11:48.209 debris field map here. It's a very interesting thing. 177 00:11:48.210 --> 00:11:50.677 Bow points north, and it's partly dug into the sediment. 178 00:11:51.211 --> 00:11:53.964 Its open end is ragged, it's not a clean break. 179 00:11:54.797 --> 00:11:57.971 At first glance, it appears the farthest object north, 180 00:11:57.972 --> 00:12:03.388 but there's the number one cargo hatch, and that's 260 feet forward of the bow. 181 00:12:03.389 --> 00:12:06.689 And the hatch bolts are all severed. So, what did that? 182 00:12:07.769 --> 00:12:11.114 And how did the bow break from the stern? What did this? 183 00:12:12.273 --> 00:12:15.903 The stern points south, facing the opposite direction of the bow. 184 00:12:15.904 --> 00:12:18.280 Looks like a bomb hit it. 185 00:12:18.529 --> 00:12:22.783 To the east of the stern lie five boilers from Boiler Room 1, 186 00:12:22.784 --> 00:12:25.202 the midsection of the ship. 187 00:12:25.203 --> 00:12:28.628 I think the location of these boilers is our first lead. 188 00:12:30.166 --> 00:12:33.168 If you just draw a circle around those five boilers, 189 00:12:33.169 --> 00:12:34.419 and you take the center of that circle, 190 00:12:34.420 --> 00:12:36.263 I think that's where the ship broke up at the surface. 191 00:12:36.264 --> 00:12:37.339 Right. 192 00:12:37.340 --> 00:12:39.805 Okay, these five boilers help us to find the hypocenter, 193 00:12:39.806 --> 00:12:41.891 the ground zero for the disaster. 194 00:12:41.892 --> 00:12:43.682 The hypocenter directly underneath 195 00:12:43.683 --> 00:12:46.101 where the breakup took place on the bottom 196 00:12:46.102 --> 00:12:47.521 would be where the heaviest 197 00:12:47.522 --> 00:12:51.228 and most uniform objects would be clustered. 198 00:12:51.229 --> 00:12:53.857 Now, with it, we can extrapolate the journey 199 00:12:53.858 --> 00:12:55.652 taken by each part of the ship, 200 00:12:55.653 --> 00:12:58.779 from the surface to where we find them today, on the bottom. 201 00:12:58.780 --> 00:13:04.700 And then you have a kind of fallout pattern, downwind, if you will, or down current, 202 00:13:04.701 --> 00:13:08.996 for very light objects like teacups and light debris and coal. 203 00:13:08.997 --> 00:13:12.752 The coal being spread the farthest, 'cause it's the least heavy in water. 204 00:13:14.794 --> 00:13:17.760 We can account for many objects on our debris field map, 205 00:13:17.761 --> 00:13:20.759 and explain how they traveled from the breakup at the surface 206 00:13:20.760 --> 00:13:24.181 to end their life two and a half miles down at the bottom. 207 00:13:24.182 --> 00:13:27.182 But not every part can be so easily explained. 208 00:13:28.891 --> 00:13:32.650 Something that just occurred to me for the first time in all these years is... 209 00:13:32.937 --> 00:13:37.316 If that happened way up there, isn't it interesting that we've got... 210 00:13:37.317 --> 00:13:38.906 These would be your poop deck cranes, 211 00:13:38.907 --> 00:13:41.245 and they're this close to their original location. 212 00:13:41.246 --> 00:13:46.575 The stern cranes sort of grouped together and lying adjacent to the stern 213 00:13:46.576 --> 00:13:49.248 was a little mystery that we had to solve. 214 00:13:49.249 --> 00:13:52.249 And in solving that mystery, it would shed some light 215 00:13:52.250 --> 00:13:55.589 on what actually happened to the stern when it hit the bottom of the ocean. 216 00:13:55.590 --> 00:13:58.880 Why were those cranes there? Where did they come from? 217 00:13:59.213 --> 00:14:00.881 Odd, isn't it? 218 00:14:00.882 --> 00:14:04.801 Then the question is, what held the cranes with all this, 219 00:14:04.802 --> 00:14:06.803 as opposed to them just scattering? 220 00:14:06.804 --> 00:14:10.434 I don't know. I'm inclined to think these came apart at a higher altitude. 221 00:14:10.435 --> 00:14:13.733 I think that it's just coincidence that they happened to wind up... 222 00:14:14.103 --> 00:14:15.692 Coincidence? There is no coincidence. 223 00:14:15.693 --> 00:14:17.361 There's no such thing as coincidence. 224 00:14:17.362 --> 00:14:19.660 - I agree. - No. 225 00:14:19.670 --> 00:14:20.614 There was a tendency on the part of the group, 226 00:14:20.615 --> 00:14:23.200 I think, to reject the idea of coincidence, 227 00:14:23.201 --> 00:14:25.619 which, I think, is always good in this kind of analysis. 228 00:14:25.907 --> 00:14:29.659 Jim will let you disagree with him as long as 229 00:14:29.660 --> 00:14:32.913 you have a reasonable argument, and your facts are all in a row, 230 00:14:32.914 --> 00:14:35.254 and they're doing a chorus dance behind you. 231 00:14:35.255 --> 00:14:37.670 I'm gonna jump to the crazy part of this. 232 00:14:37.671 --> 00:14:39.700 - Yeah. - All right? 233 00:14:39.800 --> 00:14:43.990 Which is these two double bottom sections and this big chunk. 234 00:14:43.800 --> 00:14:45.143 There are three pieces of the wreck 235 00:14:45.144 --> 00:14:48.809 whose placement on the debris field map don't make sense. 236 00:14:48.810 --> 00:14:50.472 They're outliers. 237 00:14:50.473 --> 00:14:51.643 They're enigmas because 238 00:14:51.644 --> 00:14:54.440 they're strangely out to the east of the hypocenter. 239 00:14:56.396 --> 00:14:59.900 We know from a past expedition that these two, out of the three, 240 00:14:59.901 --> 00:15:02.270 are pieces of Titanic's double bottom. 241 00:15:03.270 --> 00:15:05.323 We know these parts are from the same section of keel 242 00:15:05.324 --> 00:15:08.746 because their ragged ends align like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. 243 00:15:10.340 --> 00:15:13.832 How did these two chunks of keel detach from the bottom of the ship, 244 00:15:13.833 --> 00:15:16.490 and end up to the east of the hypocenter? 245 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:19.594 And what about the third outlier? 246 00:15:21.754 --> 00:15:24.553 Now, I'm just trying to account for something that I don't understand, 247 00:15:24.554 --> 00:15:26.174 which is this thing. 248 00:15:26.175 --> 00:15:28.143 - This is just a big pile of junk. - It's a big, ugly pile. 249 00:15:28.144 --> 00:15:29.353 Big, dirty pile of junk. 250 00:15:29.804 --> 00:15:31.475 Nobody'd ever seen it before. 251 00:15:31.476 --> 00:15:34.316 It's way off to the east. It's beyond these double bottom pieces. 252 00:15:35.184 --> 00:15:40.689 Okay, so the mystery piece, the enigma piece is this. 253 00:15:40.690 --> 00:15:42.230 Is this. Yes. 254 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.526 You know, about the upper couple of decks of that. 255 00:15:44.527 --> 00:15:46.780 It's even bigger and larger and heavier than the boilers, 256 00:15:46.781 --> 00:15:49.157 yet, it ended up way far out there. 257 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.627 How did this chunk, from beneath the third frontal deckhouse, 258 00:15:53.628 --> 00:15:55.292 end up way out there? 259 00:15:56.998 --> 00:15:59.376 All right. Well, why don't we stick to what we think we know, 260 00:15:59.377 --> 00:16:01.480 and fill in the rest of the picture? 261 00:16:01.544 --> 00:16:05.636 To fill in the rest of the picture and visualize Titanic's final moments, 262 00:16:05.637 --> 00:16:09.761 we need to go underwater and take a closer look at the damage. 263 00:16:10.595 --> 00:16:12.970 I see the wreck. 264 00:16:13.431 --> 00:16:14.808 I see it. 265 00:16:17.935 --> 00:16:20.645 Mir II, Mir II, this is Mir I. 266 00:16:20.646 --> 00:16:27.495 Depth is 3,353 meters. 267 00:16:28.571 --> 00:16:29.868 I love this stuff. 268 00:16:30.364 --> 00:16:31.865 Exploration. 269 00:16:31.866 --> 00:16:34.665 Real, honest-to-God, deep-ocean exploration. 270 00:16:37.830 --> 00:16:39.753 To me, it's an alternative to making movies, 271 00:16:40.750 --> 00:16:45.378 which is as technically challenging, as emotionally challenging, 272 00:16:45.379 --> 00:16:48.553 and it's something that I can use my skills as a filmmaker. 273 00:16:51.427 --> 00:16:53.178 It's about creating the technology. 274 00:16:53.179 --> 00:16:57.396 It's about the personal challenge of actually going into this hostile environment, 275 00:16:57.397 --> 00:17:01.771 doing things right, doing things safely, and coming back with results. 276 00:17:02.897 --> 00:17:04.649 Say goodbye to the surface world. 277 00:17:08.110 --> 00:17:11.760 I've been a wreck diver for many years at scuba depths. 278 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:14.952 I love shipwrecks. I love the romance and the mystery of shipwrecks. 279 00:17:14.953 --> 00:17:18.749 And the Titanic's the ultimate wreck. It's the Everest of shipwrecks. 280 00:17:18.750 --> 00:17:21.837 And I said, "Let's do a real expedition to the Titanic 281 00:17:21.838 --> 00:17:23.922 "to shoot scenes for the movie." 282 00:17:23.923 --> 00:17:27.341 And this was all new territory, nobody had ever really done this before. 283 00:17:27.342 --> 00:17:29.214 But looking into the darkness here 284 00:17:29.215 --> 00:17:32.936 and wondering what was beyond, what's down there, you know, 285 00:17:32.937 --> 00:17:38.479 is what led me to want to go back and explore it thoroughly with new technology. 286 00:17:39.100 --> 00:17:40.898 So, of course, as soon as the movie was done, 287 00:17:41.269 --> 00:17:43.863 I was immediately planning my next expedition. 288 00:17:47.149 --> 00:17:48.567 Okay, dive one. 289 00:17:48.568 --> 00:17:54.447 It's gonna be JB and Bill in Mir II, and me and Vince in Mir I. 290 00:17:54.448 --> 00:17:57.420 Come in here, explore these rooms. 291 00:17:57.868 --> 00:18:00.370 Up until our 2001 expedition, 292 00:18:00.371 --> 00:18:04.296 no one had attempted an extensive survey of the interior of the wreck. 293 00:18:06.168 --> 00:18:10.480 So, when we went back for the 3D documentary Ghosts of 'me Abyss, 294 00:18:10.490 --> 00:18:13.170 we developed remotely operated vehicles, or ROVs. 295 00:18:13.180 --> 00:18:14.352 We call them "bots." 296 00:18:14.677 --> 00:18:17.851 Built to withstand the incredible pressure at that depth, 297 00:18:18.931 --> 00:18:21.433 they could maneuver through small holes in the wreckage 298 00:18:21.434 --> 00:18:25.290 and explore up to 2,000 feet from the manned sub. 299 00:18:26.630 --> 00:18:29.613 Previous ROVs had been leashed to the sub by a short, bulky tether. 300 00:18:30.484 --> 00:18:35.158 Our state-of-the-art mini ROVs, affectionately nicknamed Jake and Elwood, 301 00:18:35.159 --> 00:18:36.749 had an on board power supply 302 00:18:37.283 --> 00:18:40.455 and just needed a spool of hair-thin fiber-optic cable 303 00:18:40.456 --> 00:18:44.830 to receive directions and send the live video feed back to my sub. 304 00:18:46.125 --> 00:18:48.844 As I guided them through the wreck, they unwound this cable behind them, 305 00:18:48.845 --> 00:18:52.841 like Theseus unwinding the bail of twine as he explored the labyrinth. 306 00:18:53.549 --> 00:18:57.554 This made it possible, for the first time, to film interior areas of the wreck 307 00:18:57.555 --> 00:19:00.727 that hadn't been seen since the night Titanic sank. 308 00:19:01.390 --> 00:19:04.894 The bots are finally going to Titanic. Three years in the making. 309 00:19:05.610 --> 00:19:06.233 See you on the bottom. 310 00:19:09.982 --> 00:19:12.485 Since my first expedition, I've gone back twice. 311 00:19:15.696 --> 00:19:17.118 Sight enabled. 312 00:19:18.949 --> 00:19:21.326 Comm link, camera power. 313 00:19:21.327 --> 00:19:23.705 All right. I think we're ready to fly. 314 00:19:25.539 --> 00:19:27.337 Elwood's coming out. 315 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:33.681 Pretty cool. 316 00:19:35.633 --> 00:19:37.510 Looking good, Elwood. 317 00:19:38.594 --> 00:19:41.723 Tell him to go ahead, we'll meet in the center of the grand staircase. 318 00:19:47.770 --> 00:19:50.740 I've shot hundreds of hours of archeological survey footage 319 00:19:50.741 --> 00:19:52.278 inside the wreck. 320 00:20:03.536 --> 00:20:05.880 Now they're where I wanted to be. 321 00:20:06.288 --> 00:20:09.383 Those are the lead stained-glass windows. 322 00:20:10.793 --> 00:20:13.467 Look at that. Unbelievable. 323 00:20:15.506 --> 00:20:17.884 And another thing that's absolutely fascinating is 324 00:20:18.342 --> 00:20:20.845 this idea of telepresence. 325 00:20:21.804 --> 00:20:26.516 When you fly an ROV, after the first few minutes, 326 00:20:26.517 --> 00:20:28.982 and really for subsequent hours at a time, 327 00:20:28.983 --> 00:20:32.232 you completely forget your physical human existence. 328 00:20:36.260 --> 00:20:37.152 What's going on? 329 00:20:37.403 --> 00:20:39.279 And you become that vehicle. 330 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:41.829 It's almost like you can feel what it's feeling. 331 00:21:04.930 --> 00:21:07.934 This is what you get when you get the lighting in the right place. 332 00:21:07.935 --> 00:21:11.280 You get a good sense of the depth of the space. 333 00:21:11.771 --> 00:21:14.115 That's right in front of the elevators, I believe. 334 00:21:14.116 --> 00:21:17.150 There's a well-preserved brass bed here. 335 00:21:17.151 --> 00:21:20.300 I'd be in the other sub outside, navigating... 336 00:21:20.310 --> 00:21:21.324 I think on this dive, you were. 337 00:21:21.325 --> 00:21:23.114 Yeah. We could see Jim inside. 338 00:21:23.115 --> 00:21:25.209 Every now and then, you could see the little light in there. 339 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:28.705 And you knew, "Okay, Jim, we need to move a little bit farther aft, because..." 340 00:21:28.706 --> 00:21:31.831 "Yes, yes, all right." Then he flips it up and moves back, 341 00:21:31.832 --> 00:21:33.880 and then you got to get tn the current 'gust fight. 342 00:21:33.881 --> 00:21:35.835 And then, "Okay, Jim, we're coming, 343 00:21:35.836 --> 00:21:37.587 "but we are kind of caught in current here." 344 00:21:37.588 --> 00:21:39.966 Then we'd do a pass. "Jim, how did that look?" 345 00:21:39.967 --> 00:21:41.466 And there'd be a pause. 346 00:21:41.467 --> 00:21:44.558 "Love it, love it, love it. Do it again!" Something like that. 347 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:46.724 So, they were maneuvering 18 tons out there 348 00:21:46.725 --> 00:21:48.474 to get one light through a porthole. 349 00:21:49.475 --> 00:21:51.694 Rising up and aiming the light downward. 350 00:21:55.189 --> 00:21:56.441 There's... Turn. 351 00:21:56.982 --> 00:21:58.740 That's good! 352 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:00.277 I made 33 dives to Titanic. 353 00:22:00.986 --> 00:22:04.536 Laying eyes on the site is one of the most important forensic tools. 354 00:22:05.407 --> 00:22:06.750 The power of observation. 355 00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:11.960 Some of the damage is self-evident, easy to understand. 356 00:22:12.873 --> 00:22:15.100 Other aspects are baffling. 357 00:22:15.626 --> 00:22:19.756 Like cops at a crime scene, we're inventorying ail the evidence. 358 00:22:21.900 --> 00:22:25.266 Now we can begin to rewind the clock and start to put these pieces back together 359 00:22:26.387 --> 00:22:28.765 to tell the story of Titanic's final moments. 360 00:22:29.306 --> 00:22:32.228 You've got to get to the night the ship hit the bottom. 361 00:22:32.229 --> 00:22:34.102 What happened when it hit the bottom? 362 00:22:34.103 --> 00:22:37.605 Then you've got to be able to separate out all the bottom impact damage 363 00:22:37.606 --> 00:22:40.450 from what might have happened as it descended through the water column. 364 00:22:41.151 --> 00:22:42.365 It's important to know that 365 00:22:42.366 --> 00:22:47.117 things that people have identified as possibly iceberg damage probably aren't. 366 00:22:48.325 --> 00:22:50.952 A good example of this is the so-called "big opening," 367 00:22:50.953 --> 00:22:54.298 a hole blasted in the starboard side of Titanic's bow. 368 00:22:55.249 --> 00:22:59.174 We now know it isn't iceberg damage. But how do we explain it, 369 00:22:59.670 --> 00:23:01.798 and the other destruction to the bow? 370 00:23:02.548 --> 00:23:06.269 It hit first here, pushed forward as it settled. 371 00:23:06.760 --> 00:23:09.434 So, the question is, what did it do when it hit? 372 00:23:09.805 --> 00:23:13.855 It hits, crushes like that, momentarily. 373 00:23:14.143 --> 00:23:17.647 This stops moving at that point, other than to slide forward. 374 00:23:18.564 --> 00:23:21.613 And then it's got a mound of debris underneath it, 375 00:23:21.614 --> 00:23:24.488 and it bends the other way when it lands. 376 00:23:24.820 --> 00:23:27.572 And I'll show you what that looks like in animation, 377 00:23:27.573 --> 00:23:31.248 because we thought about this a lot when we animated it. 378 00:23:31.249 --> 00:23:33.496 Take me a second to find it here. 379 00:23:34.955 --> 00:23:37.830 Okay, we made this in '95, for the movie. 380 00:23:37.840 --> 00:23:40.256 I still think it's a useful reference for the bow's impact, 381 00:23:40.878 --> 00:23:44.178 even though some of the other details aren't right. 382 00:23:44.590 --> 00:23:49.221 This is arrival. There is the initial deformation, 383 00:23:50.471 --> 00:23:54.269 which actually puts the forward well deck in compression, 384 00:23:54.270 --> 00:23:56.985 probably buckled in compression, at that point. 385 00:23:56.986 --> 00:24:01.397 And that's the point at which the big opening starts. 386 00:24:01.398 --> 00:24:04.250 'Cause it's actually getting exercised in two directions. 387 00:24:04.260 --> 00:24:07.121 And then the back end now is falling, falling down, 388 00:24:08.300 --> 00:24:11.250 and is hitting and compressing. 389 00:24:11.742 --> 00:24:14.962 Is that the cover I saw? The hatch cover flying off, there. 390 00:24:14.963 --> 00:24:17.330 Right, exactly. We animated that. 391 00:24:17.331 --> 00:24:21.427 The hatch, it's the farthest piece of the ship from the breakup. 392 00:24:23.300 --> 00:24:25.510 How did this thing get out there? 393 00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:27.548 Jim, those forces, to snap bolts... 394 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:29.893 I mean, that's something I can't get my mind around. 395 00:24:29.894 --> 00:24:32.971 So either at the moment of initial impact, 396 00:24:32.972 --> 00:24:35.600 or at the moment that the ship slams down, 397 00:24:36.580 --> 00:24:41.155 the hydraulic forces inside the ship are enough to blow this hatch off. 398 00:24:41.563 --> 00:24:45.534 So you've got some internal over-pressure here, that's hydraulic. 399 00:24:45.535 --> 00:24:48.903 And over the large area of that number one hatch, 400 00:24:48.904 --> 00:24:51.325 it just breaks every bolt at the same time. 401 00:24:51.326 --> 00:24:56.122 The hatch doesn't peel off sequentially, it's an evenly distributed over-pressure. 402 00:24:56.123 --> 00:24:58.839 It just breaks every bolt head simultaneously. 403 00:24:59.373 --> 00:25:01.922 Hydraulic outburst accounts for the mysterious placement 404 00:25:01.923 --> 00:25:03.885 of the number one hatch. 405 00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:06.716 The damage we see to the bow is more extensive 406 00:25:06.717 --> 00:25:09.718 than simply the force of impact at the bottom. 407 00:25:10.884 --> 00:25:14.137 What could have possibly happened as the bow plummeted two and a half miles, 408 00:25:14.138 --> 00:25:16.311 down to the ocean floor? 409 00:25:21.478 --> 00:25:24.680 She hits the berg on the starboard side, right? 410 00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:26.779 She kind of bumps along, punching holes like Morse code... 411 00:25:26.780 --> 00:25:29.277 In a scene from the movie Titanic, we used animation 412 00:25:29.278 --> 00:25:31.246 to illustrate for Rose's character 413 00:25:31.655 --> 00:25:34.282 what we thought had happened as the ship sank. 414 00:25:34.283 --> 00:25:37.702 So now as the bow goes down, the stern rises up... 415 00:25:37.703 --> 00:25:41.920 Since then, we've come a long way in our CG modeling and 3D animation, 416 00:25:41.921 --> 00:25:45.135 but most importantly in our understanding of the disaster. 417 00:25:45.136 --> 00:25:48.963 So, what happens? She splits, right down to the keel. 418 00:25:48.964 --> 00:25:53.259 The bow section planes away, landing about a half a mile away, 419 00:25:53.260 --> 00:25:56.130 going 20, 30 knots when it hits the ocean floor. 420 00:25:59.808 --> 00:26:01.142 Pretty cool, huh? 421 00:26:01.143 --> 00:26:05.444 Thank you for that fine forensic analysis, Mr. Bodine. 422 00:26:06.648 --> 00:26:09.322 Of course, the experience of it was... 423 00:26:10.611 --> 00:26:12.528 somewhat different. 424 00:26:12.529 --> 00:26:14.998 Okay, this '95 animation tells a good story, 425 00:26:15.324 --> 00:26:17.539 but some of the forensic details aren't quite right. 426 00:26:17.540 --> 00:26:21.376 So with what we're learning now in our current investigation, 427 00:26:21.377 --> 00:26:23.498 we're going to get to update this. 428 00:26:23.499 --> 00:26:27.800 It's pulling the whole ship down. It now breaks. There's a relaxation. 429 00:26:29.713 --> 00:26:33.843 It's pulling it down, it rips away, and then natural flooding. 430 00:26:34.900 --> 00:26:37.684 This is a big deal for me. I've wanted to do this for a long time. 431 00:26:38.222 --> 00:26:42.220 A detailed and thoroughly accurate visualization of Titanic sinking 432 00:26:42.230 --> 00:26:43.518 does not exist. 433 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.233 Working with animator Casey Schatz 434 00:26:45.234 --> 00:26:47.948 and naval system engineer, Parks Stephenson by remote, 435 00:26:48.482 --> 00:26:51.310 I'm gonna improve what we did 15 years ago. 436 00:26:52.736 --> 00:26:55.760 This looks great. This is the sum total of everything 437 00:26:55.770 --> 00:26:57.951 that you and Parks have been working on over the last few weeks. 438 00:26:57.952 --> 00:27:00.290 - Yeah. - I think it looks awesome. 439 00:27:00.291 --> 00:27:02.370 All right, let's go to the bow section. 440 00:27:02.371 --> 00:27:04.339 It's nice when you see it in scale like this, isn't it? 441 00:27:04.340 --> 00:27:05.665 Oh, yeah. Totally! 442 00:27:05.666 --> 00:27:08.543 It just makes sense. When you see it in scale, it all makes sense. 443 00:27:08.544 --> 00:27:11.343 And this is accurate, the ship is to scale to the water column, right? 444 00:27:11.344 --> 00:27:13.339 Absolutely, I've been OCD about everything. 445 00:27:13.340 --> 00:27:14.432 Okay. 446 00:27:14.883 --> 00:27:16.226 Not shocked by that. 447 00:27:17.177 --> 00:27:21.227 See? That's it, man. That's exactly the way I always pictured it. 448 00:27:21.228 --> 00:27:24.853 So the stern is actually only a few lengths behind. 449 00:27:25.310 --> 00:27:29.438 Yeah, it was surprising, but it follows down fairly closely. 450 00:27:29.439 --> 00:27:32.737 Yeah, see, everybody always talks about how it's planing forward. 451 00:27:32.738 --> 00:27:36.614 Yeah, it's planing forward, but if you looked at this, you'd just say it was falling. 452 00:27:36.615 --> 00:27:40.663 Yes, it's planing forward, and that accounts for its displacement. 453 00:27:40.909 --> 00:27:45.540 But it's one forward and six down, so it's basically just falling. 454 00:27:45.831 --> 00:27:50.632 It dives and stalls. And when it stalls, it moves forward. 455 00:27:50.878 --> 00:27:54.178 And then it dives and goes down, and then it stalls and moves forward. 456 00:27:54.923 --> 00:27:56.924 We can't complete our update of the animation 457 00:27:56.925 --> 00:27:59.343 till we answer some more questions. 458 00:27:59.344 --> 00:28:01.938 Let's keep working backwards from the wreck. 459 00:28:02.598 --> 00:28:05.270 We've analyzed the force of impact with the bottom, 460 00:28:05.271 --> 00:28:08.565 but that doesn't explain ail the observable damage. 461 00:28:08.566 --> 00:28:10.985 What could have possibly happened as the bow plummeted 462 00:28:10.986 --> 00:28:14.192 two-and-a-half miles down to the ocean floor? 463 00:28:14.193 --> 00:28:19.700 To me, one of the fun parts of this is looking at what happened to the bow 464 00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.950 right when it departed the surface. 465 00:28:22.951 --> 00:28:26.125 And looking at the evidence for that high flow rate, 466 00:28:26.126 --> 00:28:28.624 that high longitudinal flow rate. 467 00:28:30.292 --> 00:28:34.422 Weighing at least 20,000 tons, Titanic's bow tore away from the stern 468 00:28:34.423 --> 00:28:38.392 and plunged downward at a speed of 25 to 30 miles per hour. 469 00:28:48.810 --> 00:28:51.188 This is the forward well deck of Titanic. 470 00:28:51.647 --> 00:28:55.993 And you can see there, that kind of tubular object is the mast. 471 00:28:58.280 --> 00:28:59.325 You see the mast? 472 00:29:02.658 --> 00:29:07.380 We are up on the top of the deckhouse right now, I think, aren't we? 473 00:29:07.390 --> 00:29:10.541 Yes! Just hold right on this. This is good. 474 00:29:20.717 --> 00:29:23.596 Do we have any pictures of that area handy? 475 00:29:24.120 --> 00:29:27.478 Maybe one of Ken's paintings is a better jumping off point. 476 00:29:27.479 --> 00:29:29.772 Yeah, that's the wreck section there. 477 00:29:29.773 --> 00:29:32.895 Ken feels very connected to Titanic. 478 00:29:32.896 --> 00:29:36.362 And quite honestly, the movie was pitched using his paintings. 479 00:29:36.363 --> 00:29:40.532 I just opened up the big double-truck spread of his glorious painting 480 00:29:40.533 --> 00:29:42.450 of the ship going down with its lights blazing 481 00:29:42.451 --> 00:29:44.537 and the rockets being fired off, 482 00:29:44.538 --> 00:29:46.535 showed it to the studio executives and said, 483 00:29:47.350 --> 00:29:49.208 "This ship, Romeo and Juliet. " 484 00:29:50.372 --> 00:29:53.169 And that's it. It was probably the shortest pitch 485 00:29:53.170 --> 00:29:56.168 relative to the amount of money it raised in the history of movies. 486 00:29:56.169 --> 00:29:58.671 Well, yeah, you can actually see it pretty well in this painting. 487 00:29:58.672 --> 00:30:01.391 This is a good image. Let's keep this image up. 488 00:30:03.385 --> 00:30:05.558 So, let's see what we've got. 489 00:30:05.887 --> 00:30:08.681 We got a mast that's knocked aft. 490 00:30:08.682 --> 00:30:12.273 So what force knocked the mast aft, and then kept it there? 491 00:30:12.274 --> 00:30:15.899 Even though the ship hit the bottom with a slight forward vector. 492 00:30:15.900 --> 00:30:19.572 All of the B deck, forward-facing windows, 493 00:30:20.360 --> 00:30:23.489 broken, broken, broken, and that one's broken. 494 00:30:24.489 --> 00:30:27.413 So, to me, that all adds up to 495 00:30:27.909 --> 00:30:30.913 a very strong longitudinal flow over the ship, 496 00:30:30.914 --> 00:30:35.837 sufficient not only to break the mast, but to get that mast into position, 497 00:30:35.838 --> 00:30:40.759 and then allow it to shelter these windows from a peak hydrodynamic pressure, 498 00:30:40.760 --> 00:30:43.900 which subsequently broke those windows. 499 00:30:44.926 --> 00:30:47.645 And when the bow broke away and started speeding up, 500 00:30:47.646 --> 00:30:50.598 that's also what tore the crane off 501 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.479 and the jib on this crane went down behind it there. 502 00:30:54.936 --> 00:30:57.610 Where we find the mast today on the wreck 503 00:30:59.483 --> 00:31:05.286 is clearly a result of the bow section breaking away from the stern 504 00:31:11.995 --> 00:31:14.293 and diving toward the bottom. 505 00:31:17.918 --> 00:31:19.627 And that initial speed, 506 00:31:19.628 --> 00:31:24.805 which could have gotten up to as high as maybe 40 knots or something like that. 507 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:29.521 That pressure of sea water pushing back, it's too much for the mast. 508 00:31:29.888 --> 00:31:35.643 It just bent back, and probably bashed around a little bit for a few seconds, 509 00:31:35.644 --> 00:31:38.488 destroyed the wheelhouse, which was made of wood, 510 00:31:38.489 --> 00:31:41.575 and ended up right in that position. 511 00:31:42.651 --> 00:31:45.746 Hydrodynamic flow, or the force of the racing water, 512 00:31:45.747 --> 00:31:47.865 caused considerable damage. 513 00:31:50.784 --> 00:31:56.462 So, this was our attempt to show the mast doing that, in the '95 animation. 514 00:31:57.707 --> 00:32:01.877 So here is the mast coming back, hits the wheelhouse, 515 00:32:01.878 --> 00:32:04.213 wheelhouse starts to peel off. 516 00:32:04.214 --> 00:32:06.683 Mast is kind of bouncing around in that area, 517 00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:09.678 and then the wheelhouse disintegrates in the flow. 518 00:32:10.679 --> 00:32:14.354 And I think it was more dramatic than that. I think it was like a house in a hurricane. 519 00:32:14.355 --> 00:32:16.475 I think it just went in one. 520 00:32:16.476 --> 00:32:18.604 You know how, when the house will start to lift, 521 00:32:18.605 --> 00:32:21.105 and then there's a moment where it just goes 522 00:32:21.106 --> 00:32:23.527 because it gets too much of an angle of attack. 523 00:32:23.528 --> 00:32:27.290 I don't think it just peeled away like that. I think it kind of like... 524 00:32:27.300 --> 00:32:28.195 - Yeah. - Yeah. 525 00:32:28.196 --> 00:32:31.744 Okay, we'll make sure to get this right when I update the animation. 526 00:32:31.745 --> 00:32:34.995 But for now, the hydrodynamic flow can't explain all of this damage. 527 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.936 This deckhouse wall is pushed outward. 528 00:32:52.721 --> 00:32:57.227 Same on the other side, pushed outward. Why just that? Why not all of it? 529 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.600 - This roof is mushroomed. - Yeah. 530 00:33:00.610 --> 00:33:03.941 Mushroomed out or pancaked down with extreme force, 531 00:33:04.441 --> 00:33:09.690 and the top of the gymnasium is bent down. The windows are all bent. 532 00:33:09.700 --> 00:33:12.948 That's not sag. It was buckled down. 533 00:33:12.949 --> 00:33:17.546 The roof was found to be sagged in with a few pieces of funnel shell on that side. 534 00:33:18.790 --> 00:33:20.832 What caused this damage? Are we missing something? 535 00:33:22.830 --> 00:33:25.506 So you've got this big wreck coming down through the water column, 536 00:33:25.507 --> 00:33:26.924 it's pulling water down with it 537 00:33:26.925 --> 00:33:30.301 and it's been moving for miles, literally at 25 miles an hour, 538 00:33:30.302 --> 00:33:33.891 pulling along this wake behind it, just like the wake behind a race car 539 00:33:33.892 --> 00:33:36.766 that another race car can get into and kind of draft. 540 00:33:36.767 --> 00:33:39.355 So there's all this moving water, a big column of water. 541 00:33:39.356 --> 00:33:42.942 Ship hits the bottom, stops suddenly. The column of water does not stop. 542 00:33:42.943 --> 00:33:46.442 It comes down on top of the ship, pancakes down the roof, 543 00:33:46.443 --> 00:33:51.195 crushes down the decks, and then spreads out across the sea floor. 544 00:33:51.196 --> 00:33:54.118 So it actually winds up moving kind of horizontally 545 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.334 and blowing objects away from the ship. 546 00:33:59.913 --> 00:34:03.133 Do we have any data on the magnitude of the down blast? 547 00:34:04.125 --> 00:34:07.755 The hydro guy in me says that it can't be all that huge. 548 00:34:07.756 --> 00:34:11.924 We are talking about buckling and deforming in a big way, 549 00:34:11.925 --> 00:34:14.303 these moderate-sized structural members. 550 00:34:14.304 --> 00:34:18.307 And the total mass of water can't be any much more than the mass of the ship. 551 00:34:19.570 --> 00:34:21.392 - Down blast is enormous. - Okay. 552 00:34:21.393 --> 00:34:24.818 It's huge loading per square inch. 553 00:34:25.313 --> 00:34:29.233 Yeah, I professionally disagree with that statement. 554 00:34:29.234 --> 00:34:31.735 It can't be the momentum of the deck mushrooming, 555 00:34:31.736 --> 00:34:34.489 and then plasticailly deforming and remaining there in permanent set? 556 00:34:34.698 --> 00:34:36.291 Plastically deforming just from inertia? 557 00:34:36.292 --> 00:34:39.326 So, the deck is falling, falling, falling, stopping, 558 00:34:39.327 --> 00:34:41.750 there's nothing supporting the middle of the deck, it just... 559 00:34:42.330 --> 00:34:44.169 Yeah. It's got water underneath it 560 00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:46.839 that needs to be compressed out of the way for it to deform. 561 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.450 What it does is, as it squashes the ship, 562 00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:52.925 it increases pressure on the water inside the ship, 563 00:34:52.926 --> 00:34:55.676 which can't be compressed like air. 564 00:34:55.677 --> 00:34:59.394 So it has a hydraulic effect, just like the fluid in a hydraulic cylinder, 565 00:34:59.395 --> 00:35:01.437 and it tends to blow things out the side. 566 00:35:01.438 --> 00:35:07.531 So this thing stops cold, and you've got 50,000 tons of water moving above it 567 00:35:08.231 --> 00:35:10.816 at, still, 30 miles an hour. 568 00:35:10.817 --> 00:35:14.993 That's 30 knots coming down. Whatever its sinking speed was. 569 00:35:15.572 --> 00:35:18.246 Which is the equivalent of the flow here that broke the mast, 570 00:35:18.247 --> 00:35:23.873 and broke all these windows, and peeled off the davits, and did all that. 571 00:35:24.247 --> 00:35:27.968 They like to say that the steel doesn't lie, but I like to... 572 00:35:28.793 --> 00:35:32.218 I think I'd revise that. I'd say that the steel probably tells more complicated stories 573 00:35:32.219 --> 00:35:36.180 than we can tell from how it's lying on the bottom of the ocean. 574 00:35:36.181 --> 00:35:38.554 There's two different energies going here. 575 00:35:38.555 --> 00:35:41.847 Number one, it took off, did this. 576 00:35:41.848 --> 00:35:45.569 Flow passed, weakened a lot of these structures up here. 577 00:35:46.227 --> 00:35:50.733 Then it hit, and those weakened structures, which were moving with the ship, 578 00:35:50.734 --> 00:35:52.571 all of a sudden, they do this. 579 00:35:52.572 --> 00:35:55.239 And then on top of this, then you have your down blast. 580 00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:56.325 So it's a combined effect. 581 00:35:56.326 --> 00:35:57.910 Sure, it's definitely combined. 582 00:35:57.911 --> 00:36:01.873 I think that the steel and the water are kind of flowing together. 583 00:36:01.874 --> 00:36:03.666 I agree with Parks on that, absolutely. 584 00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:08.254 But there is one curious detail that baffles me. 585 00:36:08.255 --> 00:36:11.922 All the windows of the officers' quarters on the boat deck are open. 586 00:36:11.923 --> 00:36:14.842 The air was freezing that night, they wouldn't have opened them. 587 00:36:14.843 --> 00:36:18.930 So, who or what opened those heavy-latched windows? 588 00:36:21.262 --> 00:36:24.687 So the interesting thing is, why are these windows all open and forward? 589 00:36:25.767 --> 00:36:28.816 - Yeah, that is really interesting. - Well, it went... The very front one... 590 00:36:28.817 --> 00:36:31.440 - No, but why are they unlatched? - Why are they unlatched? 591 00:36:31.441 --> 00:36:33.565 - Unlatched is a different deal. - It's down blast. 592 00:36:33.566 --> 00:36:35.159 We know why they're forward, the hinges are that way. 593 00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:37.991 It's the overhead just getting enough of a compression, 594 00:36:37.992 --> 00:36:41.820 'cause this is right under it, and all those windows... 595 00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:43.745 So they just blew open. 596 00:36:43.746 --> 00:36:46.337 But why wouldn't it just break the glass? 597 00:36:46.338 --> 00:36:49.957 Why would it unhinge solid brass hinges and latches? 598 00:36:49.958 --> 00:36:51.125 Yeah, one after another. 599 00:36:51.126 --> 00:36:53.127 Keep in mind, there's two ways to latch this window. 600 00:36:53.128 --> 00:36:57.133 There's a day latch, which is done from the casement, like we would all think of. 601 00:36:57.549 --> 00:37:00.223 - And then there is a storm... - Which is this thing. 602 00:37:00.468 --> 00:37:02.182 Yeah, that's an eccentric. 603 00:37:02.183 --> 00:37:04.555 You close the window, you turn the crank, 604 00:37:04.556 --> 00:37:07.603 the eccentric shifts, and it pins that window in place. 605 00:37:07.604 --> 00:37:11.821 That's not latched, so there's a day latch that is actuated from the inside, right? 606 00:37:11.822 --> 00:37:15.315 If that handle weighed more than the latching side, 607 00:37:15.316 --> 00:37:18.490 when the ship flopped down to the bottom, all those handles flipped open? 608 00:37:18.491 --> 00:37:20.989 No, I think what happened is, 609 00:37:22.490 --> 00:37:27.161 the spindle that goes in probably just failed from tension. 610 00:37:27.162 --> 00:37:31.129 A lot of times, people will look at a device from the Victorian period 611 00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:34.334 and go, "Well, what's this for?" And they will make up an answer. 612 00:37:34.335 --> 00:37:36.133 And unfortunately, it's the wrong answer because 613 00:37:36.134 --> 00:37:40.509 our understanding of machinery is different from the ones at the time. 614 00:37:40.510 --> 00:37:41.633 Oh, okay. 615 00:37:41.634 --> 00:37:44.181 Because it's a fairly large area, and it's at the end of the fulcrum. 616 00:37:44.182 --> 00:37:46.225 Yeah, I see what you are saying. Sure, it just blew them open. 617 00:37:46.226 --> 00:37:48.200 - Yes. It's not meant to... - But didn't break the glass? 618 00:37:48.210 --> 00:37:49.475 And that was weaker than the glass. 619 00:37:49.476 --> 00:37:50.601 - But didn't break the glass. - Yeah. 620 00:37:50.602 --> 00:37:54.680 Bill Sauder very modestly says he knows the ship better than the builders, 621 00:37:54.690 --> 00:37:55.814 and I actually believe he does. 622 00:37:55.815 --> 00:37:59.690 He's the curator of an enormous collection of Titanic artifacts. 623 00:37:59.694 --> 00:38:01.195 He has more day-to-day contact 624 00:38:01.196 --> 00:38:04.416 with the physical remains of the ship than anyone. 625 00:38:05.450 --> 00:38:09.292 The one thing I'll remember about Titanic artifacts, to the day I die, 626 00:38:09.293 --> 00:38:12.211 is when the Saalfeld perfume vials came up. 627 00:38:13.166 --> 00:38:18.297 When you recover stuff from the Titanic, it's wet, it's rusty, and it's rotten. 628 00:38:18.546 --> 00:38:24.530 And the smell that comes off it is perfectly alien, perfectly fetid. 629 00:38:24.677 --> 00:38:28.557 You know it's a kind of death you have never experienced. 630 00:38:29.933 --> 00:38:31.981 So the lab is kind of unpleasant, 631 00:38:32.310 --> 00:38:37.362 and then all of a sudden somebody opens up this satchel, this leather satchel, 632 00:38:37.363 --> 00:38:39.983 and out comes the fragrance of heaven. 633 00:38:39.984 --> 00:38:44.613 It's all these flowers and fruity flavors, 634 00:38:44.614 --> 00:38:45.906 and it's delicious. 635 00:38:45.907 --> 00:38:48.581 It's the most wonderful thing you've ever had. 636 00:38:51.329 --> 00:38:55.624 It was just a complete, overwhelming experience. 637 00:38:55.625 --> 00:39:00.381 It was like, all of a sudden the fragrance of heaven kind of goes through the room. 638 00:39:02.423 --> 00:39:07.270 Instead of being surrounded by all of these dead things, 639 00:39:11.641 --> 00:39:14.815 for those few minutes, the ship was alive again. 640 00:39:30.285 --> 00:39:32.538 Okay, we're filling in the picture 641 00:39:32.996 --> 00:39:35.795 from the flow, to the impact, to the down blast. 642 00:39:36.332 --> 00:39:39.381 I understand the damage to Titanic's bow, 643 00:39:40.860 --> 00:39:42.214 but the stern is a completely different story. 644 00:39:42.215 --> 00:39:45.930 It shattered beyond recognition, like it was hit by a bomb. 645 00:39:45.931 --> 00:39:47.268 We're gonna figure out why. 646 00:39:53.266 --> 00:39:55.180 Well, my name is Ken Marschall. 647 00:39:55.310 --> 00:39:58.985 I've been studying the Titanic for over three decades now. 648 00:40:00.231 --> 00:40:02.359 I called Ken Marschall to this investigation 649 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.985 because he knows the wreck site better than anyone. 650 00:40:04.986 --> 00:40:08.991 He has created these remarkable paintings that stand even today 651 00:40:08.992 --> 00:40:12.460 as a definitive guide to Titanic, in life and in death. 652 00:40:18.541 --> 00:40:22.200 After 30 years of studying the ship so intently 653 00:40:22.300 --> 00:40:24.843 and painting the ship so many times, a hundred times, 654 00:40:24.844 --> 00:40:27.466 to see this thing in three dimensions and be standing here, 655 00:40:27.467 --> 00:40:29.686 I am absolutely speechless. 656 00:40:29.886 --> 00:40:34.160 I've been painting Titanic since the late 1960s. 657 00:40:34.349 --> 00:40:37.193 1967, actually, was my first painting. 658 00:40:39.562 --> 00:40:42.189 Ken has a keen visual memory and the talent to composite 659 00:40:42.190 --> 00:40:45.535 hundreds of separate images into these big picture mosaics. 660 00:40:47.362 --> 00:40:50.741 He is especially invaluable with the internal archeological survey 661 00:40:50.742 --> 00:40:52.366 that we did with the robotics, 662 00:40:52.367 --> 00:40:54.910 because he can actually look at something and identify it. 663 00:40:54.911 --> 00:40:58.379 There will be big brass letters that will say, "A deck," "B deck," "C deck," or "D deck," 664 00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.661 the first thing you see when you come out of the elevator. 665 00:41:02.251 --> 00:41:05.881 And there it is. Bingo, baby! Bingo! Tell him, bingo. 666 00:41:09.926 --> 00:41:13.681 With my paintbrush, I've been spending truly my adult lifetime, 667 00:41:13.682 --> 00:41:16.264 I feel, subconsciously trying 668 00:41:16.265 --> 00:41:21.237 to bring all those souls back to life, in a weird way. 669 00:41:22.397 --> 00:41:26.243 To honor their memory, to keep it alive in peoples' memory. 670 00:41:28.690 --> 00:41:30.370 The ship and the people. 671 00:41:35.868 --> 00:41:40.247 When Bob Ballard's expedition with the French found the wreck in 1985, 672 00:41:40.248 --> 00:41:43.843 the first images confirmed that the ship had broken apart. 673 00:41:45.211 --> 00:41:48.806 But it was impossible to see the entire wreck in one shot, 674 00:41:50.910 --> 00:41:53.885 so Ballard's publisher enlisted me to paint composites, 675 00:41:53.886 --> 00:41:58.392 big-picture views of the ship created from studying hundreds of close-ups. 676 00:42:00.727 --> 00:42:03.979 And that was my first exposure to the wreck, 677 00:42:03.980 --> 00:42:08.952 other than the few pictures I'd seen in magazines or in the news. 678 00:42:11.404 --> 00:42:15.125 Seeing all of this imagery for the first time, 679 00:42:15.408 --> 00:42:19.788 Bob setting me up in a room downstairs, right below his lab. 680 00:42:20.621 --> 00:42:25.502 Thousands of feet of individual stills and I had to crank through this film. 681 00:42:25.793 --> 00:42:29.259 And I was doing sketching, and I was pinpointing particular images 682 00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:33.556 that I needed enlargements of and duplicates of in order to do these paintings. 683 00:42:34.677 --> 00:42:40.265 I thought we would find her, and she'd still be in relatively good condition 684 00:42:40.266 --> 00:42:42.644 and still would look more like the ship, 685 00:42:42.645 --> 00:42:46.489 but instead she was just nuked, just blasted apart. 686 00:42:47.774 --> 00:42:50.197 It was like going to an autopsy. 687 00:42:53.154 --> 00:42:56.454 It was quite a rude awakening. 688 00:43:03.122 --> 00:43:06.100 After three days of that, I broke down in tears one night. 689 00:43:06.200 --> 00:43:09.379 I remember I called home to speak to a friend, 690 00:43:09.921 --> 00:43:12.255 and I remember saying words to the... 691 00:43:12.256 --> 00:43:14.350 It kind of makes me tear up right now to think about it. 692 00:43:14.351 --> 00:43:19.980 But I said to him, "My ship! My ship, it's gone." 693 00:43:21.265 --> 00:43:24.180 It was so destroyed. 694 00:43:24.852 --> 00:43:27.526 And I knew the ship was in two pieces, 695 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.820 but to see these close-up images and the high resolution of some of them, 696 00:43:34.821 --> 00:43:38.744 and to look down and see how completely ripped apart the ship was... 697 00:43:38.745 --> 00:43:42.712 I know it as I would a brother, a sister, a mother, a father. 698 00:43:43.704 --> 00:43:48.500 And there she was, in a million pieces. Dead. 699 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.509 Some of the damage is easy to understand. 700 00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:56.760 Other aspects are downright mysterious, 701 00:43:57.927 --> 00:44:01.397 like the stern. It's completely bizarre at first sight. 702 00:44:03.558 --> 00:44:06.232 Just like a bomb went off overhead. 703 00:44:09.272 --> 00:44:12.367 When I dived it, it was remarkable to see the extent of the damage. 704 00:44:15.528 --> 00:44:18.202 The rudder and the enormous propellers pinned in the sediment 705 00:44:18.203 --> 00:44:19.915 are hauntingly intact. 706 00:44:23.244 --> 00:44:27.124 Surrounding the stern is a large concentration of mangled debris. 707 00:44:27.125 --> 00:44:29.672 It really looks like a plane crash. 708 00:44:32.962 --> 00:44:37.580 How do we know that the stern took off toward the bottom going pretty fast? 709 00:44:37.425 --> 00:44:38.927 The poop deck. 710 00:44:39.594 --> 00:44:43.565 So the aft-most deck, the poop deck, is doubled over completely. 711 00:44:43.931 --> 00:44:46.935 Three-eighths inch steel folded like a taco. 712 00:44:47.185 --> 00:44:48.983 How did this happen? 713 00:44:49.270 --> 00:44:51.234 It's got a big electric crane sitting here, 714 00:44:51.235 --> 00:44:54.609 that's got a lot of sail area across, on that axis. 715 00:44:55.260 --> 00:44:57.736 Right? So to take off toward the bottom, 716 00:44:57.737 --> 00:45:00.456 you got a really powerful hydrodynamic loading here. 717 00:45:00.457 --> 00:45:04.578 So you got a big, sort of prying moment right here, 718 00:45:05.912 --> 00:45:10.624 and it just rips this deck up, which then catches lift, 719 00:45:10.625 --> 00:45:12.969 peels back, and flops over double, and winds up like that. 720 00:45:12.970 --> 00:45:15.964 And you think that happened in the first 500 feet... 721 00:45:15.965 --> 00:45:17.306 The first 30 seconds. 722 00:45:17.465 --> 00:45:21.811 Now, you might have had some implosions in here, loosening rivets. 723 00:45:22.178 --> 00:45:23.680 You know, bang-bang. 724 00:45:37.818 --> 00:45:40.367 The stern left the surface in a very different configuration. 725 00:45:41.405 --> 00:45:44.909 It had all its broken parts faced into the current. 726 00:45:45.493 --> 00:45:48.713 And I think it just blew off, all pretty close to the surface. 727 00:45:51.123 --> 00:45:55.502 And if something held on, it might have been packed up against the face of it 728 00:45:55.503 --> 00:45:57.337 or flat back against the underside. 729 00:45:57.338 --> 00:45:59.900 And it took a while for that to exercise loose, 730 00:45:59.100 --> 00:46:00.849 and all the loose stuff had already been blown off. 731 00:46:00.850 --> 00:46:05.893 He is proposing that the stern fell leading edge first, 732 00:46:07.556 --> 00:46:12.394 and that it was water passage into and around that damage area 733 00:46:12.395 --> 00:46:17.526 that sort of peeled off and exfoliated, basically, the first third of the stern. 734 00:46:19.986 --> 00:46:22.157 We didn't get this right in the '95 animation, 735 00:46:22.158 --> 00:46:23.497 but we're gonna nail it now. 736 00:46:24.657 --> 00:46:26.625 I think the point you are making is, this is not like 737 00:46:26.626 --> 00:46:28.159 that DD one, where it was just... 738 00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:30.412 - It was just leaves... - It was just coming off in regular... 739 00:46:30.413 --> 00:46:32.507 - Right, right. - Yeah, yeah. Copy. 740 00:46:32.508 --> 00:46:35.417 So all this stuff has come off the ship 741 00:46:35.418 --> 00:46:39.760 pretty much by the time the ship is probably two-thirds or three-quarters 742 00:46:39.761 --> 00:46:42.990 of the way through that end swap, so it's quick. 743 00:46:42.550 --> 00:46:45.222 So that's happening now. So stuffs coming off, 744 00:46:45.223 --> 00:46:48.314 and decking is coming off, and now it's all off. 745 00:46:48.764 --> 00:46:50.610 Yeah, it is fast. Wow. 746 00:46:51.434 --> 00:46:55.395 If you stick your hand out the window of a moving car with a deck of playing cards, 747 00:46:55.396 --> 00:46:58.445 if you turn it this way, you can hold on to it, and that's what the bow was. 748 00:46:58.446 --> 00:47:02.908 You turn it that way, they are all gone. They'll all spilt apart and blow backwards. 749 00:47:02.909 --> 00:47:06.498 Because the second their angle of attack increases to a few degrees, 750 00:47:06.499 --> 00:47:08.575 then it increases rapidly. 751 00:47:08.576 --> 00:47:10.910 Once it's at 90 degrees, there's no holding on to it. 752 00:47:10.911 --> 00:47:12.458 It's gone. It all happens instantaneously. 753 00:47:12.459 --> 00:47:15.834 And at the moment that happens, when those cards blow like that, 754 00:47:15.835 --> 00:47:18.928 there's a much stronger back force on your hand. 755 00:47:20.463 --> 00:47:22.553 - Try it sometime. - Yeah, I will. 756 00:47:22.554 --> 00:47:24.926 - Might get busted for littering. - Exactly! 757 00:47:26.302 --> 00:47:28.805 It feels great to have a second chance to get this stuff right. 758 00:47:28.806 --> 00:47:33.310 In the '95 animation, the stern didn't spiral, but we now know that it did. 759 00:47:34.477 --> 00:47:39.689 Because I think that when the stern hit the ground, 760 00:47:39.690 --> 00:47:42.660 it did not hit straight down. I think it slid. 761 00:47:43.277 --> 00:47:46.121 Definitely, because its back is broken. 762 00:47:46.989 --> 00:47:49.574 The axis of this part of it... 763 00:47:49.575 --> 00:47:51.953 - Perfectly centered. - Rudder is pinned in the sediment perfectly, 764 00:47:51.954 --> 00:47:54.454 and the props are pinned in the sediment perfectly, 765 00:47:54.455 --> 00:47:55.957 and that's the anchor, and then it comes down. 766 00:47:55.958 --> 00:48:00.130 Which actually makes sense, 'cause it peeled off all this stuff over here 767 00:48:00.131 --> 00:48:01.923 and blew that side out flat. 768 00:48:01.924 --> 00:48:03.798 - Yes, that's true. - Rig ht. 769 00:48:04.382 --> 00:48:07.477 It still doesn't explain these freaking cranes. 770 00:48:07.478 --> 00:48:08.685 Yeah, I know. 771 00:48:09.220 --> 00:48:11.810 Why were those cranes there? Where did they come from? 772 00:48:11.811 --> 00:48:15.220 Did they originate from the poop deck? Did they originate from the well deck? 773 00:48:15.230 --> 00:48:18.108 Or the A deck level? We had to have an answer. 774 00:48:18.109 --> 00:48:21.700 Those cranes are loose, and they are two-and-a-half miles up. 775 00:48:21.710 --> 00:48:24.156 - And somehow they end up... - No, no, no. I think... 776 00:48:24.157 --> 00:48:26.698 - These cranes came down with the stern. - Exactly. 777 00:48:26.699 --> 00:48:30.495 Somehow attached to the overturn on the underside of the poop? 778 00:48:30.825 --> 00:48:32.164 How did they end up over there, 779 00:48:32.165 --> 00:48:34.580 when the poop deck went like that, way up there? 780 00:48:34.581 --> 00:48:36.420 That's just my question. 781 00:48:36.430 --> 00:48:40.130 Did they fall from the surface? Were they deposited there toward the end? 782 00:48:40.131 --> 00:48:44.631 It's kind of hard to tell. Every time we tried to poke at a scenario that would explain it, 783 00:48:44.632 --> 00:48:45.844 there was a problem with it. 784 00:48:45.845 --> 00:48:49.344 - All right, let's take a look. - Which one they are? 785 00:48:49.345 --> 00:48:53.980 I think there was this one part still there. I'm not sure. 786 00:48:53.990 --> 00:48:57.352 Well, here is an interesting thing, these cranes can be completely gone, unrelated, 787 00:48:57.601 --> 00:49:00.854 and the three that you see sitting right here are these. 788 00:49:00.855 --> 00:49:03.859 - Right, this one is still there. - Okay. Al! right. So it's these three. 789 00:49:03.860 --> 00:49:05.405 It would be these three. 790 00:49:05.406 --> 00:49:09.998 So, now you are talking about a hydraulic outburst impact effect. 791 00:49:10.489 --> 00:49:12.160 The ship hits the bottom, plows in, 792 00:49:12.161 --> 00:49:14.498 compresses all of this shell plating underneath here, 793 00:49:14.499 --> 00:49:16.539 and everything gets ejected up. 794 00:49:16.540 --> 00:49:20.883 Including the entire well deck, which winds up lying someplace nearby. 795 00:49:21.584 --> 00:49:24.878 I had to bring to bear some of my observations 796 00:49:24.879 --> 00:49:27.755 about the effects of hydraulic outburst. 797 00:49:27.756 --> 00:49:30.928 When these big masses come down and stop suddenly on the bottom, 798 00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:33.678 build up these intense, internal hydraulic pressures, 799 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:38.435 and how that can eject big, flat areas, like decks, and like side shell plating 800 00:49:38.436 --> 00:49:41.938 and so on, and that probably launched the cranes off the ship at that point. 801 00:49:43.230 --> 00:49:44.647 Okay, that makes sense. 802 00:49:44.648 --> 00:49:47.250 The placement of the cranes and the damage to the poop deck 803 00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:49.825 help explain how the stern got obliterated. 804 00:49:50.290 --> 00:49:53.499 Now let's turn to what we don't know, the three outliers. 805 00:49:54.740 --> 00:49:55.995 We haven't yet explained them. 806 00:49:55.996 --> 00:50:00.430 Until we do, we won't know exactly what happened to the ship 807 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.885 as she vanished beneath the surface 100 years ago. 808 00:50:10.900 --> 00:50:12.931 One of the more unique challenges to studying the wreck 809 00:50:12.932 --> 00:50:15.271 is trying to see past what 100 years 810 00:50:15.272 --> 00:50:19.682 of sitting at the bottom of the ocean has done to the steel. 811 00:50:19.683 --> 00:50:23.108 Titanic is not rusting in the way that we would think of rusting. 812 00:50:23.109 --> 00:50:25.897 It's actually being eaten by bacteria. 813 00:50:25.898 --> 00:50:29.778 And the bodies of these bacteria form these amazing structures called rusticles. 814 00:50:33.197 --> 00:50:35.114 They look like stalactites, 815 00:50:35.115 --> 00:50:37.742 and they are actually formed in kind of a similar way 816 00:50:37.743 --> 00:50:41.373 in that stalactites are a deposition of minerals created by gravity. 817 00:50:41.374 --> 00:50:44.707 This is actually the deposition of dead bacteria 818 00:50:44.708 --> 00:50:48.588 that have iron inside their bodies that they have absorbed from the ship, 819 00:50:48.589 --> 00:50:53.309 and they just kind of form these structures that are actually organic. 820 00:50:54.176 --> 00:50:57.767 I think the rusticles are now part of this amazing monument 821 00:50:57.768 --> 00:50:58.980 at the bottom of the ocean. 822 00:51:02.309 --> 00:51:05.438 - Tell him to move ahead slowly. - Move ahead slow. 823 00:51:07.220 --> 00:51:10.151 Part of what's fascinating for me is that it's this onion skin process. 824 00:51:10.152 --> 00:51:12.991 You have to peel away the layers of the damage, 825 00:51:12.992 --> 00:51:16.992 working in reverse order from what you're seeing right now in the present. 826 00:51:16.993 --> 00:51:19.585 Now we're looking at Titanic from 100 years later, 827 00:51:19.586 --> 00:51:23.121 so you've got the deterioration at the sea floor, 828 00:51:23.122 --> 00:51:26.501 on top of the bottom impact, on top of the descent, 829 00:51:26.917 --> 00:51:29.136 and then the breakup at the surface. 830 00:51:30.838 --> 00:51:33.172 Once we apply our forensic process, 831 00:51:33.173 --> 00:51:36.551 Titanic's remains in the debris field begin to tell the story 832 00:51:36.552 --> 00:51:40.523 of what happened on that night, April 14, 1912. 833 00:51:46.520 --> 00:51:49.524 So far, our theory of how the wreck traveled through the water column 834 00:51:49.525 --> 00:51:52.151 and what happened at impact fits the evidence, 835 00:51:53.193 --> 00:51:55.412 except for three outliers. 836 00:51:56.488 --> 00:52:01.409 How did these two pieces of double bottom and a pile of deckhouse debris 837 00:52:01.410 --> 00:52:05.665 from beneath the third funnel end up far from the rest of the wreck? 838 00:52:15.174 --> 00:52:17.802 Well, the two double bottom sections are wing-shaped, so... 839 00:52:17.803 --> 00:52:18.893 - These are wings. - Yeah. 840 00:52:18.894 --> 00:52:21.950 - These are 747 wings. - Yeah. 841 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.226 They both happen to land within a fairly narrow cone of each other, 842 00:52:25.227 --> 00:52:27.190 so it's likely they were attached to each other 843 00:52:27.191 --> 00:52:29.526 and separated at some point in the water column, 844 00:52:29.527 --> 00:52:30.610 and then fell separately. 845 00:52:30.611 --> 00:52:35.906 I agree. They had a weakened area that kept them together for a certain period. 846 00:52:35.907 --> 00:52:38.740 When you're sitting at a table of experts, 847 00:52:38.750 --> 00:52:40.825 and you start whittling away at what's real and what's not real, 848 00:52:40.826 --> 00:52:44.869 and you end up with real mysteries that are solvable... 849 00:52:44.870 --> 00:52:47.419 You know, the answers are there. The clues are at the bottom of the ocean. 850 00:52:47.420 --> 00:52:51.135 So, they're coming down through the water 851 00:52:51.669 --> 00:52:53.258 - kind of like that. - Right. 852 00:52:53.259 --> 00:52:56.469 Right? And then finally it just exercises it so much, it breaks apart, 853 00:52:56.470 --> 00:52:59.140 - whatever that last connection was. - Right. 854 00:52:59.150 --> 00:53:01.427 It would look something like this. 855 00:53:01.428 --> 00:53:04.102 The pieces of double bottom keel begin life together, 856 00:53:04.103 --> 00:53:10.610 and on the journey down, exercised apart, planing away like an aircraft wing 857 00:53:10.620 --> 00:53:12.941 to where we find them today out in the debris field. 858 00:53:16.902 --> 00:53:18.903 - All right. So, that accounts for that. - Right. 859 00:53:18.904 --> 00:53:20.822 - That's not a planing shape. - It's not. 860 00:53:20.823 --> 00:53:22.951 - This is just a big pile of junk. - It's a big, ugly pile of junk. 861 00:53:22.952 --> 00:53:26.350 Big, dirty pile of junk that would not have any strong tendency 862 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:27.236 to plane in any one direction. 863 00:53:27.413 --> 00:53:30.873 And it's a big, lumpy shape. 864 00:53:30.874 --> 00:53:34.480 It's just a pile of crap on the ocean floor right now. 865 00:53:34.962 --> 00:53:36.963 It has no aerodynamic qualities, 866 00:53:36.964 --> 00:53:39.882 has the same aerodynamic qualities as one of the boilers. 867 00:53:39.883 --> 00:53:42.102 It's even bigger and larger and heavier than the boilers, 868 00:53:42.103 --> 00:53:44.554 yet, it ended up way far out there. 869 00:53:44.555 --> 00:53:46.353 So, how did it get way over there? 870 00:53:48.350 --> 00:53:51.648 I think one of the big problems we have is that we're thinking way over there, 871 00:53:51.649 --> 00:53:55.695 when really, detaching from this point, it's way over there. 872 00:53:56.660 --> 00:53:57.650 Okay. No, no. I got it. 873 00:53:57.651 --> 00:54:00.323 - We're not getting the vertical scale. - No, no. Understood. 874 00:54:00.324 --> 00:54:02.535 Right. So if something detaches here 875 00:54:02.536 --> 00:54:05.283 and frisbees off, it's only going that far. 876 00:54:05.284 --> 00:54:07.662 Jim threw out a couple of quick ideas about it. 877 00:54:07.663 --> 00:54:12.290 Being attached to the stern, and the stern spiraling down, 878 00:54:12.291 --> 00:54:15.440 and maybe it flung it off over there. 879 00:54:16.300 --> 00:54:18.970 But the problem with that is, 880 00:54:18.839 --> 00:54:25.110 there was a chunk of the ship between that chunk and the stern, 881 00:54:25.120 --> 00:54:27.555 and that didn't get thrown out there. 882 00:54:27.556 --> 00:54:30.516 We don't have very good imagery of it. 883 00:54:30.517 --> 00:54:35.563 We're going to need better imagery of it to try and understand it more, 884 00:54:35.564 --> 00:54:37.857 and see if there's clues in there 885 00:54:37.858 --> 00:54:41.533 that will help us understand why it ended up out there so far. 886 00:54:42.988 --> 00:54:44.740 Although there are still mysteries, 887 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.360 we've learned enough to rewind the clock farther 888 00:54:48.370 --> 00:54:50.629 on the night of April 14, 1912, 889 00:54:51.380 --> 00:54:55.885 to the moment Titanic lost her fight to stay afloat and broke in two. 890 00:54:56.210 --> 00:54:57.507 Let's take a look at the results of 891 00:54:57.508 --> 00:55:00.302 a two-and-a-half year study by naval architects 892 00:55:00.303 --> 00:55:05.224 to see if we can pinpoint where Titanic split and exactly how. 893 00:55:07.387 --> 00:55:10.561 We've peeled away the layers to reconstruct the story of the forces 894 00:55:10.562 --> 00:55:14.528 that hammered Titanic as she plummeted and hit bottom. 895 00:55:15.354 --> 00:55:18.278 Now, it's time to look at the breakup at the surface. 896 00:55:27.741 --> 00:55:29.659 How did an unsinkable ship, 897 00:55:29.660 --> 00:55:33.585 the world's greatest technological marvel at the time, break in two? 898 00:55:35.415 --> 00:55:39.795 If the wreck site is a crime scene, the breakup was her last breath. 899 00:55:42.589 --> 00:55:44.590 In the days that followed the disaster, 900 00:55:44.591 --> 00:55:48.803 the US Senate hearing and the British Board of Trade inquiry 901 00:55:48.804 --> 00:55:52.434 recorded contradictory eyewitness testimony about the breakup. 902 00:55:53.851 --> 00:55:56.700 Some saw her break in two. 903 00:55:57.729 --> 00:56:00.608 Others swore she went down whole. 904 00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.666 The British Board of Trade concluded that Titanic sank intact. 905 00:56:18.709 --> 00:56:20.251 Not until 1985, 906 00:56:20.252 --> 00:56:24.757 when explorer Bob Ballard's co-expedition with the French found the wreck, 907 00:56:24.758 --> 00:56:28.477 did we have proof, once and for all, that 'Wank. broke apart. 908 00:56:31.805 --> 00:56:33.933 Dr. Ballard will take questions now, if you have any. 909 00:56:33.934 --> 00:56:35.853 How do you account for the fact that 910 00:56:35.854 --> 00:56:38.695 the bow and the stern are at opposite ends of the debris field? 911 00:56:38.696 --> 00:56:44.275 Well, we found the boilers there, major pieces of the stern, 912 00:56:44.276 --> 00:56:47.371 and that's separated by 800 meters. I don't know. 913 00:56:47.372 --> 00:56:52.533 And again, I'm sure that 30%, if not more, 914 00:56:52.534 --> 00:56:56.414 of what I'm selling you right now I will try to eat 915 00:56:56.830 --> 00:57:00.175 in a few weeks, when I finally get a chance to look at my data. 916 00:57:08.759 --> 00:57:12.354 I'm kind of embarrassed that somebody in the '70s or the '80s 917 00:57:12.355 --> 00:57:15.140 didn't put forward the breakup. 918 00:57:15.150 --> 00:57:17.725 - When you read the many accounts... - It's all there. 919 00:57:17.726 --> 00:57:19.444 - it says, like... - It's all spelled out. 920 00:57:19.445 --> 00:57:21.526 vast amounts of cork were found. 921 00:57:21.527 --> 00:57:24.318 Well, that's what they used to insulate the uptakes. 922 00:57:24.319 --> 00:57:28.569 You know, the Pan's Wood, it's a piece of wood from the lounges. 923 00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:29.913 As a matter of fact, you use it in the movie. 924 00:57:29.914 --> 00:57:33.908 I think Rose is on it, and Leo says, "Goodbye." 925 00:57:33.909 --> 00:57:36.327 Well, if the lounge is gone, 926 00:57:36.328 --> 00:57:38.918 and there's woodwork from other parts of the ship, 927 00:57:38.919 --> 00:57:41.379 clearly there's no middle part of the ship anymore. 928 00:57:41.380 --> 00:57:44.900 Why didn't the light bulb go off in anybody's head? 929 00:57:44.910 --> 00:57:45.962 Because the wreck hadn't been found yet, 930 00:57:45.963 --> 00:57:48.466 and so there wasn't as much worldwide interest. 931 00:57:48.467 --> 00:57:52.388 And so, there weren't groups of people like ourselves focusing on this 932 00:57:52.389 --> 00:57:53.806 as much as we are now. 933 00:57:53.807 --> 00:57:56.225 Well, and then there is that institutionalized myth. 934 00:57:56.226 --> 00:57:59.771 - Exactly. Who saw it break. - There were survivors who said it broke. 935 00:57:59.772 --> 00:58:04.399 And they tried to tell the story, and they were shouted down by experts, 936 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.733 who insisted over the years that, 937 00:58:07.734 --> 00:58:10.236 "No, it couldn't have broken. You're mistaken." 938 00:58:10.237 --> 00:58:12.577 - But this is the fun part of history. - Yeah. 939 00:58:12.578 --> 00:58:15.825 Because everybody wanted to think of Titanic as this majestic... 940 00:58:15.826 --> 00:58:17.415 They wanted to romanticize it. 941 00:58:17.416 --> 00:58:22.460 We wanted it to sink as this beautiful icon that just passed away into another world. 942 00:58:22.461 --> 00:58:23.833 And be sitting on the bottom of... 943 00:58:23.834 --> 00:58:27.132 And is sitting on the bottom in some ghostly, perfect way. 944 00:58:27.133 --> 00:58:32.222 Ruth Blanchard said, "People say that I'm wrong, and that I didn't see right, 945 00:58:32.223 --> 00:58:34.390 "and that the ship didn't really break in two. 946 00:58:34.391 --> 00:58:36.137 "I was only 12, 947 00:58:36.138 --> 00:58:40.105 "but I saw it, and we were all talking about it in the lifeboat. 948 00:58:40.106 --> 00:58:42.727 "'Did you see that the ship broke in two? 949 00:58:42.728 --> 00:58:45.240 "'One part went this way, and the rest went back down."' 950 00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:47.650 Now, they can't all be having this hallucination. 951 00:58:47.651 --> 00:58:49.993 We heard a terrible explosion, 952 00:58:51.111 --> 00:58:55.614 and as all of you know, the Titanic had four funnels. 953 00:58:55.615 --> 00:59:00.161 And when we heard this explosion, the Titanic broke in half. 954 00:59:00.162 --> 00:59:01.379 I remember at one of our conventions, 955 00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:04.290 when Ruth Blanchard talked about the ship breaking in two, 956 00:59:04.291 --> 00:59:05.586 and this was before they found the ship, 957 00:59:05.587 --> 00:59:07.960 and one of the officers at the society grabbed the microphone 958 00:59:07.961 --> 00:59:09.634 and explained how it was just her perception 959 00:59:09.635 --> 00:59:11.469 because the funnel had fallen. 960 00:59:11.470 --> 00:59:13.968 And in hindsight, I wish she had taken the microphone back 961 00:59:13.969 --> 00:59:15.344 and said, "Were you there?" 962 00:59:16.178 --> 00:59:18.142 I called Don Lynch to this investigation 963 00:59:18.143 --> 00:59:21.563 for his insight into the experience of the Titanic survivors. 964 00:59:22.476 --> 00:59:25.942 He spent his entire career gathering their stories. 965 00:59:25.943 --> 00:59:29.111 Many of the survivors were his close personal friends. 966 00:59:30.150 --> 00:59:34.779 Well, when I first joined the Titanic Historical Society in 1974, 967 00:59:34.780 --> 00:59:37.158 and I realized nobody had made an effort to find them. 968 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.285 And so, I started tracking them down. 969 00:59:40.994 --> 00:59:44.294 I got to know a number of them, I got to know some of them fairly well. 970 00:59:45.457 --> 00:59:48.254 The story of the Thanh is in the survivors, 971 00:59:48.255 --> 00:59:49.797 that's how we know what happened. 972 00:59:49.798 --> 00:59:51.923 And people sort of ignored that all those years. 973 00:59:51.924 --> 00:59:54.840 There was always this fascination with the ship and the shipwreck, 974 00:59:54.841 --> 00:59:57.140 and they didn't feel we could learn more from the survivors. 975 00:59:57.150 --> 01:00:00.346 The question is, what does seeing it break mean? 976 01:00:00.347 --> 01:00:02.348 Does it mean seeing the ship suddenly move, 977 01:00:02.349 --> 01:00:03.894 associated with a loud noise? 978 01:00:03.895 --> 01:00:07.146 - No, they see an actual clean break. - Right. Okay. 979 01:00:07.147 --> 01:00:10.524 So, do we know where the clean break is? 980 01:00:11.660 --> 01:00:12.534 - Right here? - That's where the clean break is. 981 01:00:12.535 --> 01:00:14.153 And this is based on the wreck. 982 01:00:14.154 --> 01:00:17.760 - You're saying based on... - On observations from the wreck. 983 01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:20.449 Well, it should be, actually, at the promenade deck. 984 01:00:20.450 --> 01:00:22.326 It should be towards the top of the promenade deck, 985 01:00:22.327 --> 01:00:24.954 or just at the bottom of the boat deck, 986 01:00:24.955 --> 01:00:28.207 midway between the second and third funnels. 987 01:00:28.208 --> 01:00:29.291 - Here. - There you go. 988 01:00:29.292 --> 01:00:31.132 - Oh, so that's right. - He's just about right. 989 01:00:31.878 --> 01:00:34.713 The '95 animation gets this detail wrong. 990 01:00:34.714 --> 01:00:37.511 It shows the clean break just behind the third funnel, 991 01:00:37.512 --> 01:00:39.724 and we now know that it broke in front of it. 992 01:00:39.725 --> 01:00:42.438 Okay, I'm gonna fix this in the new animation. 993 01:00:43.890 --> 01:00:46.225 So, we know where she broke. 994 01:00:46.226 --> 01:00:49.700 The question now is, how? 995 01:00:49.521 --> 01:00:53.607 It all comes back to, did it detach in the vertical position? 996 01:00:53.608 --> 01:00:56.200 And what does that mean to what subsequently happened to the stern? 997 01:00:56.201 --> 01:00:57.945 'Cause the stern is where all the people were. 998 01:00:57.946 --> 01:00:59.572 And there are so many conflicting accounts 999 01:00:59.573 --> 01:01:01.744 of the stern being vertical, but not vertical. 1000 01:01:01.745 --> 01:01:04.369 Kind of also, you know, "How wrong was the movie?" 1001 01:01:05.780 --> 01:01:08.820 That's kind of important to me as well, you know. 1002 01:01:08.830 --> 01:01:11.584 But I think we were right about the idea that the bow swung down, 1003 01:01:11.585 --> 01:01:16.910 once the forces were relieved, and it broke, swung down, 1004 01:01:22.262 --> 01:01:25.431 and took off for the bottom with a high rate. 1005 01:01:25.432 --> 01:01:28.147 Right. So, one thing is very strong enough 1006 01:01:28.148 --> 01:01:30.487 to hold the bow attached to the stern. 1007 01:01:30.488 --> 01:01:31.645 Double bottom. 1008 01:01:31.646 --> 01:01:33.833 - Double bottom... - Double bottom is holding it together. 1009 01:01:33.857 --> 01:01:36.572 'Wank: was constructed with a double bottom, 1010 01:01:36.573 --> 01:01:40.618 which in theory made the ship's underside more resistant to damage and flooding. 1011 01:01:41.310 --> 01:01:45.810 Could this innovation have delayed Titanic's breakup and bought time, 1012 01:01:45.820 --> 01:01:48.370 maybe only minutes, to save additional lives? 1013 01:01:48.371 --> 01:01:49.872 Did a piece of the double bottom 1014 01:01:49.873 --> 01:01:52.843 hold the bow and stern together till the very last moment? 1015 01:01:57.464 --> 01:02:01.262 We've all been thinking of this as the classic break-the-sword-over-the-knee, 1016 01:02:01.263 --> 01:02:02.429 one split, and that's fine, 1017 01:02:02.430 --> 01:02:06.269 'cause that does account for the primary fracture at Frame 12 aft. 1018 01:02:06.270 --> 01:02:10.481 But is it possible that there is some sort of rotational component? 1019 01:02:10.482 --> 01:02:13.105 Because I want to ask whether or not you're looking at, 1020 01:02:13.106 --> 01:02:15.275 in medicine, what's called a "greenstick fracture." 1021 01:02:15.276 --> 01:02:17.526 - Oh, absolutely. - If you take a bone and twist it, 1022 01:02:17.527 --> 01:02:21.155 it doesn't cleave, it fractures in a complicated spiral way. 1023 01:02:21.156 --> 01:02:23.748 The so-called "greenstick fracture" is the way in which 1024 01:02:23.749 --> 01:02:27.868 the keel broke away from the ship, 1025 01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:30.998 to account for how it's isolated from the rest of the wreck. 1026 01:02:31.498 --> 01:02:35.376 Sometimes when structures fail, 1027 01:02:35.377 --> 01:02:39.672 the last part to fail will stay connected to both ends. 1028 01:02:39.673 --> 01:02:41.469 Maybe we should take it over to the... 1029 01:02:41.470 --> 01:02:42.930 - Do you wanna go? - Okay. Yeah. 1030 01:02:42.931 --> 01:02:44.180 Grab your banana. 1031 01:02:45.262 --> 01:02:47.140 - Hello? - I beg your pardon? 1032 01:02:48.348 --> 01:02:50.646 A little early in the party for that, don't you think? 1033 01:02:50.647 --> 01:02:52.476 Right. So, yes. 1034 01:02:52.477 --> 01:02:53.729 It actually works quite well. 1035 01:02:53.730 --> 01:02:55.688 This is one of our scientific analysis tools. 1036 01:02:55.689 --> 01:02:58.489 Yeah, it's pretty good, because look what happens when you rip through. 1037 01:02:58.775 --> 01:03:02.325 A banana turns out to be a great way to model the breakup of Titanic. 1038 01:03:02.779 --> 01:03:04.869 So imagine that the bow is going underwater, 1039 01:03:04.870 --> 01:03:06.240 and the stern's being lifted up. 1040 01:03:06.241 --> 01:03:08.913 And you've got a center of buoyancy right here. 1041 01:03:08.914 --> 01:03:11.914 This is gonna be so cool, 'cause it's gonna break just like the ship. 1042 01:03:11.915 --> 01:03:14.456 So it starts to break at the top, 1043 01:03:14.457 --> 01:03:18.380 there's a buckling failure underneath, which you can see right there. 1044 01:03:18.381 --> 01:03:20.960 Starts to tear down. Right? 1045 01:03:20.970 --> 01:03:23.924 So now the stern's falling back, the bow's sinking down, 1046 01:03:23.925 --> 01:03:26.719 and as they separate... Check that out. 1047 01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:30.431 There is the double bottom separating from the stern 1048 01:03:30.432 --> 01:03:32.683 and from the bow. 1049 01:03:32.684 --> 01:03:34.186 All right'? Now the only thing that's missing... 1050 01:03:34.187 --> 01:03:35.607 You've got to tear it. 1051 01:03:36.620 --> 01:03:40.232 And this is how the bow separates and drops down, like that. 1052 01:03:40.233 --> 01:03:43.736 Now the stern's sitting at the surface with this big piece of double bottom. 1053 01:03:43.737 --> 01:03:45.614 The stern now floods, goes vertical, 1054 01:03:45.615 --> 01:03:49.330 heads for the bottom at high speed, like this. 1055 01:03:49.340 --> 01:03:50.911 And this big piece of windage here, 1056 01:03:50.912 --> 01:03:54.371 that's flapping in the breeze, bends back, 1057 01:03:54.372 --> 01:03:57.875 breaks off, and goes frisbeeing off across the debris field 1058 01:03:57.876 --> 01:04:00.400 about a quarter of a mile away. 1059 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:02.597 Banana peel theory. 1060 01:04:08.928 --> 01:04:13.200 Okay, let's rewind the clock to the early morning hours of April 15, 1912. 1061 01:04:13.210 --> 01:04:16.188 Go back to the moment just before Titanic broke 1062 01:04:16.189 --> 01:04:19.146 in order to understand the escalation of forces 1063 01:04:19.147 --> 01:04:21.680 that caused this massive failure in a structure 1064 01:04:21.690 --> 01:04:22.864 that's designed to be unbreakable. 1065 01:04:28.823 --> 01:04:30.616 Basically, buoyancy 1066 01:04:30.617 --> 01:04:32.870 is what determines if the ship floats or not. 1067 01:04:33.912 --> 01:04:38.759 In Titanic's case, the stern maintained its positive buoyancy for a while 1068 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.667 and stayed on the surface, 1069 01:04:40.668 --> 01:04:42.586 then the bow became nothing but a dead weight 1070 01:04:42.587 --> 01:04:44.347 that's got to go to the bottom of the ocean. 1071 01:04:45.632 --> 01:04:49.478 Once the bow had gone under and lifted the stern right out of the water, 1072 01:04:49.479 --> 01:04:53.815 stresses not anticipated by the ship's designers wreaked havoc. 1073 01:05:14.327 --> 01:05:19.915 If this bow was hanging down like you say, it's totally negative buoyancy. 1074 01:05:19.916 --> 01:05:23.507 Or very close to it. Probably has still some airspace at the top. 1075 01:05:23.508 --> 01:05:28.132 Which speaks to the buoyancy in the stern because that thing is holding up... 1076 01:05:28.133 --> 01:05:29.726 - That's what's holding it. - All of that. 1077 01:05:29.727 --> 01:05:33.183 Thought of as a complete system, it's still positively buoyant. 1078 01:05:33.184 --> 01:05:35.681 But there's this huge negative mass, pendulous mass, 1079 01:05:35.682 --> 01:05:40.686 which breaks off at some point, maybe at this angle, maybe at this angle, 1080 01:05:40.687 --> 01:05:42.232 maybe it hangs on for a second. 1081 01:05:42.233 --> 01:05:45.530 Maybe as it is achieving that angle, it's ripping away. 1082 01:05:47.193 --> 01:05:49.537 In order to test popularly held assumptions 1083 01:05:49.538 --> 01:05:51.572 based on eyewitness accounts, 1084 01:05:51.573 --> 01:05:53.869 I've commissioned a team of naval architects 1085 01:05:53.870 --> 01:05:56.666 to apply a scientific method to Titanic's breakup, 1086 01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.710 to really separate myth from reality. 1087 01:06:00.665 --> 01:06:02.963 Do you wanna tell us about the modeling software that was used? 1088 01:06:02.964 --> 01:06:05.169 Sure. I think we need to shift... 1089 01:06:05.170 --> 01:06:06.879 We'll switch to... 1090 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:09.191 - Yeah, we'll come back to this. - Stettler's computer, please. 1091 01:06:09.215 --> 01:06:10.260 So, what I wanted to do... 1092 01:06:10.261 --> 01:06:13.387 I'll just stand up a little bit, here, to illustrate. 1093 01:06:13.388 --> 01:06:16.226 These are called hydrostatics and stability softwares, 1094 01:06:16.227 --> 01:06:18.145 and there's a number of them out there. 1095 01:06:18.391 --> 01:06:20.392 Basically the way they all work is, 1096 01:06:20.393 --> 01:06:24.648 - you use the lines drawing for the ship... - What did you use as a source? 1097 01:06:24.649 --> 01:06:26.900 The Harland and Wolff drawings? 1098 01:06:27.442 --> 01:06:29.661 Right, the original drawings from Harland and Wolff. 1099 01:06:30.361 --> 01:06:34.366 In Titanic's time, shipbuilding was at the cutting edge of all industries. 1100 01:06:34.367 --> 01:06:37.117 Harland and Wolff, based in Belfast, Ireland, 1101 01:06:37.118 --> 01:06:40.247 was a revolutionary shipyard that designed iron ships 1102 01:06:40.248 --> 01:06:42.965 that didn't simply copy the design of wooden ships. 1103 01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:46.257 This allowed them to build bigger, better, 1104 01:06:46.258 --> 01:06:50.723 and technologically superior vessels ahead of any of their competitors. 1105 01:06:51.424 --> 01:06:54.765 Unfortunately, their crowning achievement, Titanic, 1106 01:06:54.766 --> 01:06:58.610 flooded, split in half, and sank to the bottom of the ocean. 1107 01:06:59.390 --> 01:07:02.688 Now, using today's most advanced shipbuilding computer tools, 1108 01:07:02.689 --> 01:07:04.937 Commander Stettler will attempt to figure out 1109 01:07:04.938 --> 01:07:08.650 why Harland and Wolff's design failed. 1110 01:07:08.660 --> 01:07:12.270 So this is just a representative section, as we call them. 1111 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.407 All the compartments had to be defined by the balance of the decks. 1112 01:07:15.408 --> 01:07:16.995 So you can see the coal bunkers, 1113 01:07:16.996 --> 01:07:21.792 and the salt water tanks are green, and the blue are the fresh water tanks. 1114 01:07:22.747 --> 01:07:25.626 So we model the hull as a bunch of these sections, 1115 01:07:25.627 --> 01:07:27.751 basically, these slices, 1116 01:07:27.752 --> 01:07:33.215 and for each slice, that slice has an area of property associated with it. 1117 01:07:33.216 --> 01:07:37.960 And we can actually calculate, basically, the resistance to bending, 1118 01:07:37.970 --> 01:07:39.974 or flexure, of that section of the hull. 1119 01:07:40.181 --> 01:07:42.896 And then we can use that to find the stress. 1120 01:07:42.897 --> 01:07:45.439 So let me just shift the view a little bit. 1121 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.155 Now let's look at the stress, say, in this panel here, 1122 01:07:48.356 --> 01:07:50.575 and plot the bending moment. 1123 01:07:51.317 --> 01:07:56.323 So, now you see what's on the bottom is actually negative. 1124 01:07:56.698 --> 01:07:58.198 Compressive stresses in the bottom. 1125 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:00.420 - Compressive stress in the bottom. - Tension... 1126 01:08:00.430 --> 01:08:03.163 And you see the yellow and a little bit of red up there, 1127 01:08:03.164 --> 01:08:06.600 that's tensional or positive stresses. Okay? 1128 01:08:06.499 --> 01:08:08.125 So what's interesting is, it's basically saying that 1129 01:08:08.126 --> 01:08:11.336 the bottom plating of the ship will buckle 1130 01:08:11.337 --> 01:08:14.170 - before the material reaches a yield stress. - At a smaller stress. 1131 01:08:14.173 --> 01:08:17.509 Just to be clear, based on your calculations, 1132 01:08:17.510 --> 01:08:20.225 we're thinking that the bottom buckled first, 1133 01:08:20.226 --> 01:08:22.394 before the shell broke at the top. 1134 01:08:22.395 --> 01:08:23.473 Correct. 1135 01:08:23.474 --> 01:08:26.521 We know the steel was better in tension than it was in compression. 1136 01:08:26.522 --> 01:08:28.520 Right, but that makes the keel even stronger. 1137 01:08:28.521 --> 01:08:30.731 It was put into compression, 1138 01:08:30.732 --> 01:08:33.250 but was still strong enough to hold 1139 01:08:33.260 --> 01:08:35.199 - the two sections together momentarily. - To hold together. 1140 01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:38.730 What Commander Stettler was able to do 1141 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:42.289 was bring a rational, mathematical model. 1142 01:08:43.360 --> 01:08:45.880 No cinema tricks, 1143 01:08:46.372 --> 01:08:51.430 no mythology, just the facts. "This is what the computer said." 1144 01:08:51.440 --> 01:08:53.547 I found that was a breath of fresh air, 1145 01:08:53.548 --> 01:08:58.508 because it lets you sever the chains with those preconceptions you have 1146 01:08:58.509 --> 01:08:59.726 and say, "A-ha! 1147 01:09:00.553 --> 01:09:02.806 “This is what happened." 1148 01:09:03.848 --> 01:09:06.818 Commander Stettler's analysis gives us the scientific proof 1149 01:09:06.819 --> 01:09:09.904 to support our ideas of Titanic's last hours. 1150 01:09:11.856 --> 01:09:13.357 But what about the flooding itself, 1151 01:09:13.358 --> 01:09:15.360 and how the rushing water brought the ship down? 1152 01:09:17.862 --> 01:09:20.240 Did her stern really rise out of the water? 1153 01:09:20.990 --> 01:09:23.455 It's a controversial shot in the movie, 1154 01:09:23.456 --> 01:09:27.126 a gut-wrenching, big-screen moment based on survivor testimony. 1155 01:09:27.914 --> 01:09:29.916 Is this really how it happened? 1156 01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:42.596 If the breakup was Titanic's last breath, the iceberg strike was her death blow. 1157 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:50.227 It damaged nearly 300 feet of her hull, 1158 01:09:50.228 --> 01:09:54.108 allowing flooding in five of her 16 major watertight compartments. 1159 01:10:02.281 --> 01:10:04.784 An injury that fatally crippled the ship. 1160 01:10:11.124 --> 01:10:14.378 No one has ever actually seen the iceberg damage. 1161 01:10:14.379 --> 01:10:17.677 It lies buried in the sediment, underneath the ocean floor. 1162 01:10:18.131 --> 01:10:22.511 But using the modern analytic tools of the shipbuilding industry, 1163 01:10:22.512 --> 01:10:25.684 can we fill in some holes in our understanding of the flooding? 1164 01:10:25.888 --> 01:10:30.359 So, Commander Stettler's gonna start off. He's gonna show us the sinking studies. 1165 01:10:30.360 --> 01:10:31.435 Yep. 1166 01:10:31.436 --> 01:10:34.110 Let's turn to the flooding analysis to look for facts. 1167 01:10:36.315 --> 01:10:40.444 We know some things about the initiation of the flooding, 1168 01:10:40.445 --> 01:10:44.750 that it sideswiped an iceberg, that it opened the first five compartments. 1169 01:10:44.365 --> 01:10:48.827 We have some outer boundaries that were set up by the testimony. 1170 01:10:48.828 --> 01:10:50.918 We know it didn't take three days to sink, 1171 01:10:50.919 --> 01:10:54.336 we know it took about two-and-a-half, two hours and 40 minutes. 1172 01:10:54.337 --> 01:10:55.880 So, there are certain things we know. 1173 01:10:55.881 --> 01:11:00.172 They were able to create a model complex enough 1174 01:11:00.173 --> 01:11:04.178 and accurate enough to be able to tell us certain things we didn't know before. 1175 01:11:05.344 --> 01:11:08.188 How did the floodwater move through the ship? 1176 01:11:09.150 --> 01:11:11.689 How did the bow so rapidly go negative? 1177 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:14.778 How did the stern rise? 1178 01:11:16.220 --> 01:11:19.526 Let's turn to the naval architects' progressive flooding mode! 1179 01:11:19.527 --> 01:11:21.260 To look for facts. 1180 01:11:21.270 --> 01:11:25.770 Part of the analysis that I was working on is a hydrostatics study. 1181 01:11:25.780 --> 01:11:28.200 It involves tracking the floodwater 1182 01:11:28.201 --> 01:11:32.204 as it moves from the sea, through the holes in the hull, 1183 01:11:32.205 --> 01:11:34.169 up and through all the compartments. 1184 01:11:34.170 --> 01:11:36.543 I have sliced the model up in a bunch of places, 1185 01:11:36.544 --> 01:11:40.712 so you have Hold 1, Hold 2, Hold 3. 1186 01:11:40.713 --> 01:11:42.384 We haven't ever been able to track 1187 01:11:42.385 --> 01:11:45.225 the compartment-to-compartment progression of floodwater before. 1188 01:11:45.510 --> 01:11:47.550 It allows us to determine 1189 01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:49.763 if the floodwater would've reached one part of a compartment 1190 01:11:49.764 --> 01:11:51.437 or a different part of a compartment first. 1191 01:11:51.438 --> 01:11:56.654 It allows us to much more accurately see, at any intermediate stage of flooding, 1192 01:11:56.655 --> 01:11:58.563 how the ship is loaded 1193 01:11:58.564 --> 01:12:00.817 and what the structural consequences of that are. 1194 01:12:01.776 --> 01:12:03.449 All right, so here we go. 1195 01:12:14.372 --> 01:12:17.251 It's recalculating everything on ten-second intervals. 1196 01:12:20.253 --> 01:12:22.960 As you can see, there's a long period in here 1197 01:12:22.970 --> 01:12:25.920 between, say, 25 minutes and 45 minutes or so, 1198 01:12:25.930 --> 01:12:28.150 before you get much flooding in other places. 1199 01:12:29.554 --> 01:12:30.851 Can you stop for one second? 1200 01:12:31.264 --> 01:12:32.766 How is it getting to here? 1201 01:12:32.767 --> 01:12:35.141 Is that Scotland Road? 1202 01:12:35.142 --> 01:12:37.110 This is Scotland Road. Yeah. 1203 01:12:37.603 --> 01:12:40.856 Scotland Road is the long passageway on the port side of E deck 1204 01:12:40.857 --> 01:12:42.780 that travels the length of the ship. 1205 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:44.948 As Scotland Road flooded, 1206 01:12:44.949 --> 01:12:48.242 it completely undermined the precaution of sealed compartments, 1207 01:12:48.243 --> 01:12:51.830 like an accelerant, acting as a shortcut for the floodwater 1208 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:53.419 over the top of the bulkheads. 1209 01:12:53.661 --> 01:12:55.208 Here we go. 1210 01:12:57.832 --> 01:13:01.962 Because the starboard side on E deck, sort of starboard of Scotland Road, 1211 01:13:01.963 --> 01:13:06.137 is allowed to, in our model right now, flood earlier, it floods first. 1212 01:13:08.384 --> 01:13:10.100 To see it dissected in such a way, 1213 01:13:10.110 --> 01:13:13.580 and to see how the flooding progressed in a forensic way like that, 1214 01:13:13.590 --> 01:13:16.480 was almost like seeing Titanic sink for the first time. 1215 01:13:17.180 --> 01:13:21.521 Another accelerant was an open door on D deck, just one. 1216 01:13:21.522 --> 01:13:26.403 Why would someone open a large door on the lower level of a rapidly sinking ship? 1217 01:13:26.652 --> 01:13:31.760 Second Officer Lightoller at one point sent a boatswain by the name of Nichols 1218 01:13:31.770 --> 01:13:34.621 to grab some men and go down and open one of the doors. 1219 01:13:34.622 --> 01:13:38.288 And I think the idea was that, since he wasn't loading the lifeboats full, 1220 01:13:38.289 --> 01:13:40.400 that they would come back and take people off 1221 01:13:40.410 --> 01:13:41.505 through the doorway or something. 1222 01:13:41.506 --> 01:13:42.843 And he never saw the man again. 1223 01:13:42.844 --> 01:13:47.841 And when they found the ship in 1985, there it is. The door is open. 1224 01:13:51.427 --> 01:13:55.851 The interesting thing about the D deck shell door on the port side is that 1225 01:13:55.852 --> 01:13:59.680 it communicates down a quarter all the way forward. 1226 01:13:59.852 --> 01:14:04.730 If you look at it here. Here's your door. If your water could come in here, 1227 01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:08.411 it could come down and flood the entire forward D deck. 1228 01:14:11.906 --> 01:14:14.121 We should stop it at the peak of that stress curve, 1229 01:14:14.122 --> 01:14:17.400 because we know it didn't go past that, so that's your upper bound. 1230 01:14:17.662 --> 01:14:19.960 Okay, the peak of the stress curve is the moment we're after. 1231 01:14:19.961 --> 01:14:22.460 It's just before the ship broke. 1232 01:14:22.470 --> 01:14:26.171 When we reach this point, we'll know the final angle of the stern. 1233 01:14:35.888 --> 01:14:38.610 Yeah, it should be at 19 degrees at trim. 1234 01:14:38.620 --> 01:14:39.224 Interesting. 1235 01:14:39.225 --> 01:14:41.101 Okay, the model shows us that the flooding caused 1236 01:14:41.102 --> 01:14:43.480 a 19-degree maximum angle of tilt. 1237 01:14:44.397 --> 01:14:48.240 There is no subsequent force acting on the ship 1238 01:14:48.250 --> 01:14:53.405 that would tend to break it, that exists greater than that moment 1239 01:14:53.406 --> 01:14:55.115 until it hits the bottom. 1240 01:14:55.116 --> 01:14:57.244 And we know it broke before it hit the bottom. 1241 01:14:57.245 --> 01:15:00.578 That might be our maximum tilt. 1242 01:15:00.579 --> 01:15:01.580 Yeah. 1243 01:15:02.748 --> 01:15:03.957 Not as much as we thought. 1244 01:15:03.958 --> 01:15:05.754 Ken, you're going to have to repaint your paintings, buddy. 1245 01:15:05.755 --> 01:15:08.275 - I'm going to have to re-shoot my movie. - Which one's easier'? 1246 01:15:09.500 --> 01:15:11.599 Painting. I'll help you paint the paintings. 1247 01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:20.727 I think this is pretty amazing. I mean, this is completely new to me, 1248 01:15:20.728 --> 01:15:23.820 that in the two-and-a-half hours it took Titanic to sink, 1249 01:15:23.821 --> 01:15:25.438 she never capsized. 1250 01:15:25.730 --> 01:15:28.984 We never really thought about that. It was staring us in the face. 1251 01:15:28.985 --> 01:15:30.191 Ships capsize. 1252 01:15:30.192 --> 01:15:32.488 We saw it recently with the Costa Concordia 1253 01:15:32.489 --> 01:15:34.112 that sank off the coast of Italy. 1254 01:15:34.113 --> 01:15:35.697 And when you look back 1255 01:15:35.698 --> 01:15:38.326 at the history of all the other famous shipwrecks, 1256 01:15:38.327 --> 01:15:39.497 they all roll over. 1257 01:15:40.286 --> 01:15:43.335 Bismarck rolled over, Andrea Doria rolled over. 1258 01:15:44.123 --> 01:15:46.870 But Titanic just went almost straight down. 1259 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:47.630 Yeah, toward the end it had, maybe, 1260 01:15:47.631 --> 01:15:51.129 a variously reported six, maybe eight-degree list. 1261 01:15:51.130 --> 01:15:52.131 That's not much. 1262 01:15:52.590 --> 01:15:54.466 That creates a whole new question. 1263 01:15:54.467 --> 01:15:55.637 Were they trimming the ship? 1264 01:15:55.638 --> 01:15:58.990 Were the engineers, none of whom survived, 1265 01:15:58.100 --> 01:15:59.809 actually trimming the ship actively? 1266 01:15:59.810 --> 01:16:03.728 Were they fighting that? Were they that good with their pumps 1267 01:16:03.729 --> 01:16:08.275 by filling the trim tanks and seeing the ship was listing one direction, 1268 01:16:08.276 --> 01:16:13.153 controlling it and trying to keep it upright so they could get those boats off? 1269 01:16:13.154 --> 01:16:14.369 Or did they just get lucky? 1270 01:16:14.779 --> 01:16:17.657 Was it the most amazing piece of luck in maritime history 1271 01:16:17.658 --> 01:16:20.408 that they managed to successfully evacuate 1272 01:16:20.409 --> 01:16:25.163 700-some people in the boats while the ship just sat 1273 01:16:25.164 --> 01:16:26.835 perfectly upright in the water? 1274 01:16:26.836 --> 01:16:28.252 I've never thought of that before. 1275 01:16:28.253 --> 01:16:31.466 Well, there are some questions we're just going to have to live with. 1276 01:16:31.467 --> 01:16:35.920 But before I send these guys home, there's a game I like to play. 1277 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.387 What would you have done if you were captain of Titanic? 1278 01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:41.768 Could more lives have been saved? 1279 01:16:49.146 --> 01:16:53.196 Titanic set sail with more than 2,200 souls on board, 1280 01:16:54.260 --> 01:16:56.950 but just over 700 would survive the disaster. 1281 01:16:57.822 --> 01:16:59.199 Some went down with the ship. 1282 01:17:00.320 --> 01:17:03.957 Most froze to death floating in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic 1283 01:17:03.958 --> 01:17:05.995 waiting for a rescue ship. 1284 01:17:05.996 --> 01:17:07.122 Right ahead, sir. 1285 01:17:09.542 --> 01:17:10.712 Careful with your oars. 1286 01:17:10.713 --> 01:17:12.480 Even with only enough lifeboats 1287 01:17:12.490 --> 01:17:15.100 for 50% of the passengers and crew on board, 1288 01:17:15.110 --> 01:17:17.633 could the crisis have been managed more effectively? 1289 01:17:19.885 --> 01:17:21.432 Can anyone hear me? 1290 01:17:22.596 --> 01:17:25.937 Let me pose a problem based on everything you guys know. 1291 01:17:25.938 --> 01:17:30.404 Let's say I've got a time machine and I can teleport you back to Titanic 1292 01:17:30.405 --> 01:17:34.149 one second after the ship has already hit the iceberg. 1293 01:17:34.150 --> 01:17:36.744 You can do anything, but you've already hit the iceberg. 1294 01:17:37.194 --> 01:17:39.330 So it's really an exercise in, 1295 01:17:39.340 --> 01:17:41.748 could the crisis have been managed differently 1296 01:17:41.749 --> 01:17:43.658 if they knew what we knew? 1297 01:17:43.659 --> 01:17:45.377 How would you have saved everybody? 1298 01:17:45.828 --> 01:17:48.707 And it's not meant as an indictment of the choices 1299 01:17:48.708 --> 01:17:51.209 that were made by the captain and the officers. 1300 01:17:51.210 --> 01:17:55.600 I think they were managing the problem about as well as humanly possible 1301 01:17:55.700 --> 01:17:56.299 under the circumstances. 1302 01:17:56.300 --> 01:17:58.675 But with what we know now, could we have done any better? 1303 01:17:58.676 --> 01:18:01.139 Like, how would you have saved everybody? 1304 01:18:01.140 --> 01:18:04.981 Save everybody, I think it was not possible. You can save much more. 1305 01:18:05.556 --> 01:18:08.435 We can shift the number, that's for sure. 1306 01:18:12.210 --> 01:18:13.860 I think you could save everybody. 1307 01:18:13.861 --> 01:18:16.325 I think you could save everybody and their dog. 1308 01:18:17.526 --> 01:18:18.693 Really? 1309 01:18:18.694 --> 01:18:19.946 I think there's a couple of ways to do it. 1310 01:18:19.947 --> 01:18:22.160 There's two ways to do it that I can think of. 1311 01:18:22.161 --> 01:18:25.660 There is a ship. There is a ship six to eight miles away. 1312 01:18:25.661 --> 01:18:27.624 - One. - Well observed by everybody. 1313 01:18:27.625 --> 01:18:29.793 All right? It's there. You can see it. 1314 01:18:30.122 --> 01:18:33.213 It's thought to have been the British steam ship Californian, 1315 01:18:33.214 --> 01:18:37.900 within radio contact of the Titanic right before the accident. 1316 01:18:37.296 --> 01:18:40.550 One of the officers told people when they were getting in the boat 1317 01:18:40.551 --> 01:18:41.846 to go row to that ship. 1318 01:18:41.847 --> 01:18:42.967 Captain Smith. 1319 01:18:42.968 --> 01:18:45.808 Captain Smith, he was telling people to row to the ship. 1320 01:18:45.809 --> 01:18:47.990 Why row to the ship? 1321 01:18:47.100 --> 01:18:48.973 Why not drive your ship to that ship? 1322 01:18:48.974 --> 01:18:51.809 Six miles with a boat like that? 1323 01:18:51.810 --> 01:18:54.630 No, no, no. Not that boat. That ship. 1324 01:18:55.314 --> 01:18:57.649 Drive your ship to the other ship. 1325 01:18:57.650 --> 01:18:59.484 And I would say even drive it backwards. 1326 01:18:59.485 --> 01:19:01.565 You don't want to go too fast, 'cause you're damaged. 1327 01:19:03.405 --> 01:19:05.999 You've only got to go six miles. It's not very far. 1328 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.588 No, but it could be an hour, or something like that. 1329 01:19:10.996 --> 01:19:14.341 Drive it backwards, it's going to tend to plane up slightly 1330 01:19:14.342 --> 01:19:17.252 and not add to the flooding. 1331 01:19:17.253 --> 01:19:19.379 You'd actually relieve the pressure and slow the flooding. 1332 01:19:19.380 --> 01:19:20.802 You think it's just pure head pressure? 1333 01:19:20.803 --> 01:19:22.175 We respectfully disagree. 1334 01:19:22.176 --> 01:19:25.847 It's a big ship and the holes are far underwater and it just... 1335 01:19:25.848 --> 01:19:29.389 I think Jeff and I made the point in there. We disagree with that one. 1336 01:19:29.390 --> 01:19:31.857 You're going to evacuate some of them. Some are going to go in the water 1337 01:19:31.858 --> 01:19:33.977 and some are going to have to get picked up by the other ship. 1338 01:19:33.978 --> 01:19:36.481 So that's your biggest problem, is the transfer. 1339 01:19:36.482 --> 01:19:39.983 Driving a ship backwards, I was not in favor, 1340 01:19:39.984 --> 01:19:42.360 but I had no objective reasons. 1341 01:19:42.361 --> 01:19:44.784 It just seemed like the wrong thing to do to me. 1342 01:19:45.364 --> 01:19:48.740 My first favorite idea is to put everybody on the iceberg 1343 01:19:48.750 --> 01:19:49.760 'cause it's not sinking. 1344 01:19:49.785 --> 01:19:52.203 Take a fur coat, sit on the iceberg. 1345 01:19:52.204 --> 01:19:53.705 If you have access to the iceberg. 1346 01:19:53.706 --> 01:19:55.959 Why don't you have access to it? You just ran into it. 1347 01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:57.458 You left it behind. 1348 01:19:57.459 --> 01:20:00.131 A couple hundred meters away. It's sitting right there. 1349 01:20:00.132 --> 01:20:04.305 If you have trouble convincing people to get into a lifeboat... 1350 01:20:06.385 --> 01:20:09.601 They didn't have any trouble when they got up to boat 13 and 15. 1351 01:20:09.602 --> 01:20:11.180 - That was later. - Yeah. 1352 01:20:11.190 --> 01:20:12.980 That was later. 1353 01:20:12.990 --> 01:20:14.898 How are you going to put 2,000 people on an iceberg that 1354 01:20:14.899 --> 01:20:17.854 you know is pretty irregular? 1355 01:20:17.855 --> 01:20:19.947 And how in the hell are you going to get them on top? 1356 01:20:19.948 --> 01:20:22.238 - What I would do is... - I think I'd be taking a chance on that. 1357 01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.324 - Here's the option. - It's either that, 1358 01:20:24.325 --> 01:20:26.867 or cling to the stern, which is going down. 1359 01:20:26.868 --> 01:20:28.770 No, no. Option two. 1360 01:20:28.780 --> 01:20:30.825 They had received reports for days that there was field ice, 1361 01:20:30.826 --> 01:20:33.705 and they knew they were within five miles of it. 1362 01:20:33.706 --> 01:20:35.375 - Field ice. Pack ice. - Right. 1363 01:20:35.376 --> 01:20:39.890 Now that you can easily walk right onto from any shell door. 1364 01:20:39.900 --> 01:20:41.428 Sure. Just drive the ship right into it. 1365 01:20:41.429 --> 01:20:46.170 I would've headed northwest until I hit the pack ice. 1366 01:20:46.842 --> 01:20:48.431 Much easier than climbing. 1367 01:20:48.432 --> 01:20:50.348 - But then you have to sail. - Yes, yes. 1368 01:20:50.349 --> 01:20:51.685 Why you don't sail to the ship? 1369 01:20:51.686 --> 01:20:53.644 To the ship? Because of the transfer problem. 1370 01:20:53.645 --> 01:20:55.480 I would prefer to be on the ship than... 1371 01:20:55.481 --> 01:20:58.700 What if the ship turns out to be a 50-foot fishing sloop? 1372 01:20:58.710 --> 01:21:01.441 How do you get 3,000 people on a 50-foot ship. 1373 01:21:02.232 --> 01:21:06.199 I don't think we came up with any super brilliant ways to solve it. 1374 01:21:06.200 --> 01:21:08.340 There were a couple that might have worked, 1375 01:21:08.350 --> 01:21:10.203 if you were incredibly ballsy and just went for them. 1376 01:21:10.449 --> 01:21:13.623 You could've spent your time fashioning rafts. 1377 01:21:14.161 --> 01:21:16.876 Oh, that's another... That could be a possibility 1378 01:21:16.877 --> 01:21:18.793 with all the chairs and stuff like that. 1379 01:21:18.794 --> 01:21:20.962 But the people, they will be already in the water. 1380 01:21:20.963 --> 01:21:23.461 You could go tear the woodwork off the first-class lounge 1381 01:21:23.462 --> 01:21:26.259 - and throw more of that into the water. - One guy took a bunch of deck chairs 1382 01:21:26.260 --> 01:21:27.803 and he made a raft out of it and survived. 1383 01:21:27.804 --> 01:21:29.926 Yeah, but you can put more and more on them... 1384 01:21:29.927 --> 01:21:31.645 No, but that's one guy on his own initiative. 1385 01:21:31.646 --> 01:21:33.638 If you had the crew concentrated 1386 01:21:33.639 --> 01:21:38.726 on fashioning rafts from the carpenters' stores, I think that... 1387 01:21:38.727 --> 01:21:42.720 I don't see that happening. You might've saved another 50 people. 1388 01:21:42.730 --> 01:21:44.982 Some people have come up with the idea of 1389 01:21:44.983 --> 01:21:47.530 gathering together a whole bunch of mattresses 1390 01:21:47.531 --> 01:21:51.908 and lowering them over by ropes over the side, and they suck against the... 1391 01:21:51.909 --> 01:21:55.248 'Cause they knew from the inside where the leaks were. 1392 01:21:55.249 --> 01:21:59.920 Ken had an interesting idea of putting mattresses down the side of the ship 1393 01:21:59.921 --> 01:22:06.594 and trying to block the inrush of water into Boiler Room 5 and Boiler Room 6. 1394 01:22:07.297 --> 01:22:10.216 And I think, as we argued it, 1395 01:22:10.217 --> 01:22:13.139 there was some possibility that, that might've worked. 1396 01:22:13.140 --> 01:22:15.727 So our model indicates that if you just 1397 01:22:15.728 --> 01:22:18.521 lower the permeability in the holds and forward spaces enough, 1398 01:22:19.170 --> 01:22:21.858 that you would reach equilibrium and you would never go down, 1399 01:22:21.859 --> 01:22:24.319 or it would take hours and hours and hours and hours. 1400 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:27.737 - So how do you... - So take all the life-jackets on board, 1401 01:22:27.738 --> 01:22:28.823 just all of them, 1402 01:22:28.824 --> 01:22:30.865 and shove them down in those four compartments. 1403 01:22:30.866 --> 01:22:32.784 You would lower the permeabilities really low. 1404 01:22:32.785 --> 01:22:34.909 - That's pretty scary. - Like a ping-pong ball? 1405 01:22:34.910 --> 01:22:36.497 - Yeah. - That's pretty scary. 1406 01:22:36.498 --> 01:22:40.370 But all you got to do is reduce 20% of that total volume. 1407 01:22:40.380 --> 01:22:42.382 - I mean, that's a lot of volume, but... - How do you get them in? 1408 01:22:42.383 --> 01:22:44.797 Because you try to push them down, they keep popping up. 1409 01:22:44.798 --> 01:22:47.837 You put them in before the flooding. 1410 01:22:47.838 --> 01:22:50.900 - I like that. - That is really cinematic. 1411 01:22:50.100 --> 01:22:53.430 The risk of taking the life-jackets off of all the passengers, 1412 01:22:53.431 --> 01:22:55.517 saying, "We're going to do this instead." 1413 01:22:55.518 --> 01:22:58.890 Well, they can live, or they can die in the water wearing life-jackets. 1414 01:22:58.891 --> 01:22:59.932 Yeah. 1415 01:22:59.933 --> 01:23:03.563 Now take away every life-jacket from every man, woman, and child on the ship, 1416 01:23:03.564 --> 01:23:05.656 and put them all into one room. 1417 01:23:06.690 --> 01:23:11.116 That might be piling your chips on one long shot. 1418 01:23:12.404 --> 01:23:14.782 Now based on what we've learned in this room, 1419 01:23:14.783 --> 01:23:17.578 what did we get wrong in depicting the tragedy 1420 01:23:17.579 --> 01:23:18.793 in the feature film? 1421 01:23:24.750 --> 01:23:28.345 All right boys. Like the Captain said, nice and cheery, so there's no panic. 1422 01:23:29.588 --> 01:23:31.900 "Wedding Dance." 1423 01:23:33.634 --> 01:23:36.262 We never really took much of a beating for what we showed in the movie. 1424 01:23:36.263 --> 01:23:39.352 There were people that disagreed with certain aspects of it 1425 01:23:39.353 --> 01:23:42.818 because they had their own preconceptions of what it was like. 1426 01:23:44.269 --> 01:23:45.771 Stop! 1427 01:23:47.105 --> 01:23:48.231 Hold the left side! 1428 01:23:48.232 --> 01:23:52.328 It was generally, broadly well-accepted in the Titanic community. 1429 01:23:52.653 --> 01:23:55.827 I think it's really more that we're just hard on ourselves. 1430 01:23:56.323 --> 01:23:59.998 Based on what we know now, what did we screw up in the movie? 1431 01:24:00.619 --> 01:24:03.293 We didn't screw it up. We were basing it on what we knew at the time. 1432 01:24:03.294 --> 01:24:04.330 Exactly. 1433 01:24:04.331 --> 01:24:08.379 So, I think, of course, Ken could give us a list about 100 things long. 1434 01:24:08.380 --> 01:24:10.592 Are we just really nitpicking over physical things 1435 01:24:10.593 --> 01:24:12.713 that we would do different with your sinking? 1436 01:24:12.714 --> 01:24:15.216 What you would consider nitpicking and what I would consider nitpicking 1437 01:24:15.217 --> 01:24:16.300 are two different things. 1438 01:24:16.301 --> 01:24:19.980 - Your broad strokes are my nitpicks. - No, I'm talking about the sinking. 1439 01:24:19.990 --> 01:24:20.723 - The way you depicted the sinking. - Yeah. 1440 01:24:20.724 --> 01:24:24.270 - There is a mistake. There was a... - The broad strokes are very accurate. 1441 01:24:24.271 --> 01:24:27.234 At one point during the sinking, there was a clear list where 1442 01:24:27.235 --> 01:24:31.826 lifeboats were really scraping the side and they were trying to push with oars 1443 01:24:31.827 --> 01:24:33.985 to even lower the boats, 1444 01:24:33.986 --> 01:24:35.907 and that isn't depicted in the movie. 1445 01:24:35.908 --> 01:24:39.534 So that's something that could be changed, if it were ever to be done. 1446 01:24:39.535 --> 01:24:46.414 The next time I build a 1.5 million pound set and lower it four stories into a tank, 1447 01:24:46.415 --> 01:24:48.338 I'll make sure I get that list on there. 1448 01:24:50.544 --> 01:24:54.797 Boat 11, which is caught with the condenser discharge, 1449 01:24:54.798 --> 01:24:59.552 is trying to row away while 13 is coming down almost on top of it, 1450 01:24:59.553 --> 01:25:00.928 right behind that. 1451 01:25:00.929 --> 01:25:03.773 And just about the time that 13 hits the water, 1452 01:25:03.774 --> 01:25:06.601 15 will be coming down on top of that. 1453 01:25:06.602 --> 01:25:10.771 And the wash from that discharge washes 13 aft, 1454 01:25:10.772 --> 01:25:12.690 right underneath 15 1455 01:25:12.691 --> 01:25:15.490 to the place where the passengers can reach up and touch the bottom 1456 01:25:15.491 --> 01:25:17.278 of that 15 coming down. 1457 01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:19.748 And they were panicked. They didn't know if they could hear them. 1458 01:25:19.749 --> 01:25:23.494 But, fortunately, they were able to release the falls on 13 just in time 1459 01:25:23.495 --> 01:25:24.582 to row out of the way. 1460 01:25:24.583 --> 01:25:28.420 And then 15 came down right where 13 had been just moments before. 1461 01:25:28.421 --> 01:25:29.712 Can you hear me, Jim? 1462 01:25:29.958 --> 01:25:32.630 They should be able to stand up and touch the bottom, 1463 01:25:32.631 --> 01:25:35.510 and it shouldn't be really much lower than that. 1464 01:25:36.214 --> 01:25:39.218 Thanks for your opinion. Now I'm going to make it exciting. 1465 01:25:39.219 --> 01:25:42.808 What I told various interviewers during the marketing of the film was, 1466 01:25:42.809 --> 01:25:46.270 "I want this movie to be like you went back in a time machine 1467 01:25:46.271 --> 01:25:48.267 "and you actually were there for the sinking. 1468 01:25:48.268 --> 01:25:49.894 "That's how accurate I want it to be." 1469 01:25:49.895 --> 01:25:52.114 Now that didn't prove to be possible. 1470 01:25:52.397 --> 01:25:55.401 What about the colors of the rockets? 1471 01:26:03.408 --> 01:26:05.785 We talked about that at the time and there was... 1472 01:26:05.786 --> 01:26:07.286 The consensus was they were white. 1473 01:26:07.287 --> 01:26:08.459 Well, no. It wasn't the consensus. 1474 01:26:08.460 --> 01:26:10.706 It was because nobody would've believed you 1475 01:26:10.707 --> 01:26:13.840 if you'd had them burst into colored balls. That's my memory. 1476 01:26:13.850 --> 01:26:14.210 Do you think they were colored? 1477 01:26:14.211 --> 01:26:16.758 'Cause you asked me about... We know they were now. 1478 01:26:16.759 --> 01:26:18.839 - They were white. - We had enough... 1479 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:20.260 - He says they weren't white. - They went up white, 1480 01:26:20.261 --> 01:26:22.181 - and they burst into colored balls. - Yeah, they were white. 1481 01:26:22.182 --> 01:26:23.260 - All of them. - No. 1482 01:26:23.261 --> 01:26:24.478 They went up white and burst into colored balls. 1483 01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:25.554 Yup. 1484 01:26:25.555 --> 01:26:26.852 Well, no, it wasn't the consensus, 1485 01:26:26.853 --> 01:26:29.517 it was because nobody would've believed you. 1486 01:26:29.518 --> 01:26:32.488 The only people who said they burst out into white balls were the officers. 1487 01:26:32.489 --> 01:26:34.402 Can we put Parks' monitor up, please? 1488 01:26:34.940 --> 01:26:37.944 'Cause this is something we did not know then that I now know. 1489 01:26:38.485 --> 01:26:41.659 - 2004, we found a box of rocket detonators. - Right. 1490 01:26:41.660 --> 01:26:45.324 And the interesting thing about this is, 1491 01:26:45.325 --> 01:26:49.704 there was a hole behind the brass cone of the detonator 1492 01:26:49.705 --> 01:26:51.544 that was cut out to let you see 1493 01:26:51.545 --> 01:26:55.795 the color of the balls that would come out of this white burst. 1494 01:26:55.796 --> 01:27:00.846 This is definitely bluer and greener, and this is definitely warmer, redder. 1495 01:27:01.466 --> 01:27:02.800 Obviously white. 1496 01:27:02.801 --> 01:27:04.427 What a discovery. 1497 01:27:04.428 --> 01:27:05.928 That's pretty cool. 1498 01:27:05.929 --> 01:27:07.772 I wish we'd had that when we were making the movie. 1499 01:27:07.773 --> 01:27:09.353 We would've made it look right. 1500 01:27:09.354 --> 01:27:13.229 And so, apparently they were sending up rockets that did burst into colored balls, 1501 01:27:13.230 --> 01:27:14.478 the way people remembered. 1502 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:16.260 He's got to go back and change everything 1503 01:27:16.270 --> 01:27:17.611 he's ever written about the rockets, 1504 01:27:17.612 --> 01:27:20.531 Ken's got to go back and redo every painting he's ever done, 1505 01:27:20.532 --> 01:27:23.863 and Pd have to go back and redo the movie 1506 01:27:23.864 --> 01:27:26.743 and change the colors of some of the rockets at least. 1507 01:27:26.744 --> 01:27:30.830 Of course what we all cling to is, at least some of them were white. 1508 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:34.100 Well, how about the fact that all of your paintings and the movie 1509 01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:36.671 show the elevation of the stern significantly higher than 1510 01:27:36.672 --> 01:27:39.171 what we now know from this simulation. 1511 01:27:39.504 --> 01:27:41.347 We now know the angle of the ship's too high. 1512 01:27:41.348 --> 01:27:43.137 It's dramatic. You know, it looks cool. 1513 01:27:46.595 --> 01:27:50.224 So it's not like there was this equipoise, this moment of it just sitting there. 1514 01:27:50.225 --> 01:27:54.854 Even though we protracted it in the film, and that's the romanticized image of it. 1515 01:27:54.855 --> 01:27:59.565 In fact, it would've just accelerated through that angle 1516 01:27:59.566 --> 01:28:01.340 until it finally did that. 1517 01:28:01.193 --> 01:28:04.528 It's not vastly different than what we've showed, 1518 01:28:04.529 --> 01:28:06.368 just a little less dramatic. 1519 01:28:06.369 --> 01:28:10.456 And I think that we're constantly trying to take into consideration 1520 01:28:10.457 --> 01:28:13.831 what eyewitnesses saw and how dramatic it was to them, 1521 01:28:13.832 --> 01:28:16.207 how it felt to them, and how they might've 1522 01:28:16.208 --> 01:28:19.480 slightly exaggerated things later, in the telling of the story, 1523 01:28:19.490 --> 01:28:20.887 as almost everyone would do. 1524 01:28:22.881 --> 01:28:25.179 Bloody pull faster! And pull! 1525 01:28:26.551 --> 01:28:28.390 But we weren't wrong in broad strokes. 1526 01:28:28.391 --> 01:28:30.730 The ship broke at the surface. We know that. 1527 01:28:39.773 --> 01:28:42.117 The bow plunged vertically. We know that. 1528 01:28:43.401 --> 01:28:45.574 The stern hung around for a while. We know that. 1529 01:28:48.990 --> 01:28:51.951 So the movie was true in its broad strokes. 1530 01:28:51.952 --> 01:28:57.581 So I didn't feel after the film that I had a lot to defend. 1531 01:28:57.582 --> 01:29:00.850 I felt like we had done good work at the time. 1532 01:29:00.669 --> 01:29:01.882 But it was limited. 1533 01:29:01.883 --> 01:29:04.713 There was still so much more that the wreck site could teach us, 1534 01:29:04.714 --> 01:29:06.512 which is why I personally went back out there 1535 01:29:06.513 --> 01:29:09.261 on two successive expeditions. 1536 01:29:10.428 --> 01:29:12.668 My decision has been to not change anything in the movie. 1537 01:29:13.974 --> 01:29:16.944 Because once you start that process, where do you stop? 1538 01:29:18.270 --> 01:29:21.442 And the things that are wrong are things that would only bother 1539 01:29:21.443 --> 01:29:22.941 eight people in the world. 1540 01:29:23.441 --> 01:29:26.365 Myself being one of them, but I can live with it. 1541 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:29.122 Even though I'm not going to change the movie, 1542 01:29:29.123 --> 01:29:31.913 I do get to redo the animation of the sinking. 1543 01:29:32.450 --> 01:29:33.826 It's going to be very cool. 1544 01:29:33.827 --> 01:29:37.582 The most accurate depiction ever of what happened that night, 1545 01:29:37.583 --> 01:29:39.208 100 years ago. 1546 01:29:42.627 --> 01:29:43.799 We've beat it up. 1547 01:29:44.921 --> 01:29:46.173 We've disagreed. 1548 01:29:48.884 --> 01:29:51.137 But we've found a lot of consensus. 1549 01:29:51.469 --> 01:29:54.313 We've advanced our knowledge of Titanic's final moments, 1550 01:29:54.806 --> 01:29:58.397 and have plugged what we've learned into an updated visual record. 1551 01:29:58.398 --> 01:30:01.112 The final word on the disaster in animation. 1552 01:30:03.440 --> 01:30:05.613 So this is the last thing l... 1553 01:30:06.860 --> 01:30:08.770 As Quicktime, as you had... 1554 01:30:08.780 --> 01:30:12.823 Now did you notice that, in Stettler's paper, he said that 1555 01:30:12.824 --> 01:30:16.327 the final trim angle before the break was 23 degrees, not 19? 1556 01:30:16.328 --> 01:30:17.494 Yes. 1557 01:30:17.495 --> 01:30:21.341 Since the conclusion of our investigation, Commander Stettler revised his results 1558 01:30:21.342 --> 01:30:24.627 and published 23 degrees maximum angle of tilt. 1559 01:30:24.628 --> 01:30:29.179 You know, if our two-and-a-half year engineering study shows 23 degrees, 1560 01:30:29.180 --> 01:30:31.258 we should show 23 degrees. 1561 01:30:31.259 --> 01:30:32.468 Okay, there. 1562 01:30:32.469 --> 01:30:34.845 That's the number that he settled on, right? 1563 01:30:34.846 --> 01:30:36.847 It's two degrees off right now. That's an easy fix. 1564 01:30:36.848 --> 01:30:39.692 You know, we've been arguing over the number of degrees 1565 01:30:39.693 --> 01:30:41.602 for about 15 years now. 1566 01:30:41.603 --> 01:30:42.900 Let's make it 23 degrees. 1567 01:30:42.901 --> 01:30:45.356 Oh, absolutely. I'm happy to do it. 1568 01:30:45.357 --> 01:30:46.859 All right. Let's put this to bed. 1569 01:30:46.860 --> 01:30:47.860 There we go. 1570 01:30:49.486 --> 01:30:53.616 All right. That looks good. The ship's veering to port at 22 knots. 1571 01:30:54.324 --> 01:30:56.200 Sideswipes the iceberg. 1572 01:30:56.201 --> 01:31:00.293 Murdoch ports around the iceberg, trying to keep from hitting the propellers. 1573 01:31:00.294 --> 01:31:01.505 That looks pretty good. 1574 01:31:03.667 --> 01:31:06.464 Okay, so now we're watching in accelerated time. 1575 01:31:06.465 --> 01:31:10.637 We see the first five compartments flood. They equalize pretty quickly. 1576 01:31:10.638 --> 01:31:11.975 Bow is pulled down. 1577 01:31:15.637 --> 01:31:17.179 We see the port list. 1578 01:31:17.180 --> 01:31:19.682 Port list looks right. That looks like about nine degrees. 1579 01:31:19.683 --> 01:31:24.290 Oh, you can really see the effect of that list on the flooding. 1580 01:31:32.700 --> 01:31:34.949 So, yeah, superstructure starts to get pulled under. 1581 01:31:42.580 --> 01:31:44.253 Funnels collapse at their base. 1582 01:31:46.918 --> 01:31:50.548 Now the bow is accelerating downward. That looks good. 1583 01:31:50.549 --> 01:31:52.843 We're starting to see the stern come up. 1584 01:31:52.844 --> 01:31:55.811 We got our maximum peak stress, and yeah, boom! 1585 01:31:55.812 --> 01:31:56.969 It breaks. 1586 01:31:56.970 --> 01:31:59.519 Okay, bow swinging down... That looks good. 1587 01:31:59.973 --> 01:32:01.691 The double keel hang on, 1588 01:32:02.726 --> 01:32:04.143 then they separate. 1589 01:32:04.144 --> 01:32:06.103 Bow plunges straight down. 1590 01:32:06.104 --> 01:32:08.194 All right, we got mast snapping back, 1591 01:32:08.195 --> 01:32:11.443 the funnels are ripping backwards, pulling off all the davits. 1592 01:32:13.280 --> 01:32:15.156 Bow is going down like a torpedo. 1593 01:32:15.157 --> 01:32:18.703 Here's the angle when it falls through into a stable position. 1594 01:32:18.704 --> 01:32:19.826 Let's see the stern. 1595 01:32:21.619 --> 01:32:24.288 Keeling way over to port. That looks right. 1596 01:32:24.289 --> 01:32:25.630 And she goes... Yup, that is right. 1597 01:32:25.631 --> 01:32:28.217 She goes almost vertical just when she goes under, and then, boom! 1598 01:32:28.218 --> 01:32:29.256 Implodes. 1599 01:32:29.878 --> 01:32:32.882 Now she accelerates, and all the stuff starts to rip off. 1600 01:32:33.465 --> 01:32:36.137 See the shell plating going. There goes the double bottom. 1601 01:32:36.138 --> 01:32:38.110 Double bottom frisbeeing off. 1602 01:32:38.970 --> 01:32:40.768 And the Stern's falling through. 1603 01:32:41.848 --> 01:32:44.943 So now the stern's falling aft-end down. 1604 01:32:45.977 --> 01:32:48.150 And we see the spiraling. 1605 01:32:50.650 --> 01:32:51.153 Here comes the bow. 1606 01:32:51.154 --> 01:32:54.494 Bow is falling in its stable position, and it hits... 1607 01:32:54.495 --> 01:32:55.527 Yeah, boom! 1608 01:32:55.528 --> 01:32:56.904 It kind of breaks its back. 1609 01:32:56.905 --> 01:32:59.658 And we see the hydraulic outburst and the down blast effect. 1610 01:32:59.659 --> 01:33:00.954 Let's see the stern. 1611 01:33:02.494 --> 01:33:06.670 Oh, you see the shell plating blowing off, decks, everything kind of settling around it. 1612 01:33:08.166 --> 01:33:10.168 Looks like a big airplane crash site. 1613 01:33:13.421 --> 01:33:15.139 That's exactly what we're looking for. 1614 01:33:19.511 --> 01:33:20.512 And action! 1615 01:33:21.179 --> 01:33:23.728 I've been working on Titanic for nearly 20 years. 1616 01:33:26.226 --> 01:33:29.776 I've planned this investigation to be my final word. 1617 01:33:30.605 --> 01:33:34.735 It's time for me to pass the baton and move on to some new challenges, 1618 01:33:36.270 --> 01:33:38.654 but I'll never stop thinking about Titanic. 1619 01:33:38.655 --> 01:33:43.350 For me, it's so much more than simply an exercise in forensic archeology. 1620 01:33:48.915 --> 01:33:54.440 Part of the Thank; parable is of arrogance, of hubris, 1621 01:33:54.450 --> 01:33:57.174 of the sense that we're too big to fail. 1622 01:33:58.716 --> 01:34:00.356 Well, where have we heard that one before? 1623 01:34:04.889 --> 01:34:06.974 There was this big machine, 1624 01:34:06.975 --> 01:34:10.817 this human system that was pushing forward with so much momentum 1625 01:34:10.818 --> 01:34:14.439 that it couldn't turn, it couldn't stop in time to avert a disaster. 1626 01:34:14.440 --> 01:34:15.800 And that's what we have right now. 1627 01:34:20.710 --> 01:34:22.950 Within that human system on board that ship, 1628 01:34:22.951 --> 01:34:25.452 if you want to make it a microcosm for the world, 1629 01:34:25.453 --> 01:34:27.578 you have different classes. 1630 01:34:27.579 --> 01:34:30.126 You've got first class, second class, third class. 1631 01:34:30.127 --> 01:34:31.837 Well, in our world right now, 1632 01:34:31.838 --> 01:34:34.382 you've got developed nations and undeveloped nations. 1633 01:34:34.383 --> 01:34:36.795 You've got the starving millions 1634 01:34:36.796 --> 01:34:40.382 who are going to be the ones most affected by the next iceberg that we hit, 1635 01:34:40.383 --> 01:34:41.823 which is going to be climate change. 1636 01:34:42.343 --> 01:34:44.437 We can see that iceberg ahead of us right now, 1637 01:34:44.438 --> 01:34:45.762 but we can't turn. 1638 01:34:45.763 --> 01:34:48.607 We can't turn because of the momentum of the system. 1639 01:34:48.608 --> 01:34:51.226 Political momentum, business momentum. 1640 01:34:51.227 --> 01:34:53.776 There are too many people making money out of the system 1641 01:34:53.777 --> 01:34:56.231 the way the system works right now. 1642 01:34:56.232 --> 01:34:59.780 And those people, frankly, have their hands on the levers of power 1643 01:34:59.781 --> 01:35:01.279 and aren't ready to let them go. 1644 01:35:01.696 --> 01:35:04.618 Until they do, we're not going to be able to turn and miss that iceberg, 1645 01:35:04.619 --> 01:35:06.118 and we're going to hit it. 1646 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:07.576 When we hit it, 1647 01:35:07.577 --> 01:35:10.292 the rich are still going to be able to get their access 1648 01:35:10.293 --> 01:35:12.378 to food, to arable land, to water, and so on. 1649 01:35:12.379 --> 01:35:13.457 It's going to be the poor, 1650 01:35:13.458 --> 01:35:15.381 it's going to be the steerage that are going to be impacted. 1651 01:35:15.382 --> 01:35:16.878 And it was the same with Titanic. 1652 01:35:18.379 --> 01:35:22.384 And I think that's why this story will always fascinate people, 1653 01:35:22.385 --> 01:35:28.805 because it is a perfect, little encapsulation of the world and all social spectra. 1654 01:35:28.806 --> 01:35:33.602 But until our lives are really put at risk, the moment of truth, 1655 01:35:33.603 --> 01:35:36.106 we don't know what we would do. 1656 01:35:37.315 --> 01:35:38.783 And that's my final word.