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uh huh.
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the news on idaho fell
a little slow
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Not a lot of big things
happened here p >
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If this is the case,
The biggest story of my career,
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Happens.
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it just
makes no sense
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To not find anything
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Footprints, pieces of meat,
pieces of clothing
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oh, this - it's annoying
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You know, I know, you know,
my member
search and rescue unit
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That doesn't sleep
too well.
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This is a small town
on idaho called leadore
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This is far away.
Your cellphone
will enter and exit
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You are on
gravel road at first,
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But then it turns out
very rocky. P>
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Dan ketika saya mengatakan berbatu,
Maksudku batu-batu besar.
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You need to drive
Maybe five miles per hour
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And it's safe
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And it's really rocky.
It takes a long time
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For short trips
from leadore city
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To camp.
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after you go
sidewalks, I think that
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A little more than seven miles
quite rough road
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Once you reach the campsite
to where they are,
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Timber tributary camps,
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It's just deadlocked.
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And you're out
and there's a campsite,
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There's a table,
there's a fire pit
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Ten meters away,
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There is a steep hill
going to the creek
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it's a combination of
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Willowy, berawa,
riverbed,
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The steep hillside,
some of them...
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Sage brush,
some of them wood.
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Lots of stones.
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they have arrived
at the campsite
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Late at night
July 9, Thursday evening.
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It's too late,
it's dark
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They say that
go to bed immediately.
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From the first day,
law enforcement told us
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That's everyone
at camp
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Considered as a person
interest
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Only because they
are only there
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Deorr sr and jessica mitchell,
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Young deorr parents,
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Grandfather, grandfather Jessica,
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And another man
named isaac reinwand,
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Who is grandfather's friend
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Who seems to be
last minute
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Decide to go camping
with them. P>
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It was dark
they got there
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Deorr said it
parked the truck
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Parked the trailer
on the outskirts of the city.
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Issac installed his tent,
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They have a grandfather settle down
in the camp trailer,
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They sleep behind
from the outskirts of the city.
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Wake up the next morning,
and then he realizes p >
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How is the countryside.
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You know, that's right
basically at the end of
the way.
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Think that's
a pretty place safe
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You know?
Cliff rather
All the way around,
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Not too
for him to get out.
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You know? P>
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The next morning,
July 10, Friday,
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They wake up,
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They hang around
at the campsite
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they have gone
to leadore, to the store,
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Because jessica is needed
feminine products,
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They go in there
and they buy,
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You know, that's all
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And then some candy and
items for the little one.
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jessica goes
to the bathroom,
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When the boy is loaded.
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And they go back to
campsite.
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So they got to the camp,
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Isaac's and
bob's grandfather
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He said, "we have some fish."
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And he shows his fish
for deorr,
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Dan deorr is said to say,
"I don't believe you were caught
the fish on the river. P>
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I don't believe it.
Show me where you
have them. P>
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Become jessica and deorr
with this issac
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Go to the creek, < br /> which may be 100 feet away.
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they say
for a little deorr,
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"Do you want to come?
with us?"
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According to law enforcement,
a little deorr followed them
for one point,
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But then turn around
and come back
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The parents continue
with the grandfather's assumption
watching deorr
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And jessica tells me,
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He keeps looking back
from behind his shoulder
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To make sure the little boy
doesn't follow them
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And when he's confident
he doesn't follow,
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They go to those two places
along the creek
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Where should they
catch fish
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they go get there
maybe 10-15 minutes,
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And then they see a little fish.
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And they will
go back to the camp
and get a man small,
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Because he likes fish.
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He loves bugs...
Things like that.
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And so,
they go back there
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And deorr looks
on bob and said,
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"where is there a small deorr?"
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And bob said,
"He is here."
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"in where is there a little deorr? "
and grandfather said,
" He was there. "
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Of course he wasn't there.
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Grandpa claimed not
entered the trailer.
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But I'm sure he did it.
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The police said that the reinwand
issac is currently down
in a small river, fishing.
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They said they were panicking.
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They did a search
straight camp
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They looked everywhere
they could.
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madness starts
Everyone...
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I mean, they start shouting,
they start looking.
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They searched
15 to 20 minutes
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There were no signs of them.
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Then they decided
better to call 911 p >
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This is a remote area,
You can't get it
cell phone service
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Jessica said miraculously
she got a signal.
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um, my two-year-old son...
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Um, we can't find it.
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Deorr jumped onto the truck,
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Go to the road to see
if he can get better service
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Both are
calling
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With 911
at the same time.
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You know, "my child is missing
Can you help us?"
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And that's it
chaos from there
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Good night everyone.
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You are in the right place,
at the right time.
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This is the beach for my expenses.
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Tonight, we plunge once more,
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In the end
paranormal pools
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Hundreds of people vanished
from our
national park and forest.
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Some right under the nose
parents or family members,
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Under very unusual ,
but very similar
circumstances.
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Dave paulides, welcome back
to the program
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Thank you for
having me, george
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okay, dave,
I want to jump into this.
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Deorr kunz, two years.
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I mean, you're a cop.
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If you become
investigate this case,
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Kidnapping is one of the few
events that might occur, right?
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I might will say yes.
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And the reason,
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Is that the family?
at a campsite,
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Far into the mountains.
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There is something very
rocky, rough roads enter, p >
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And the same path comes out.
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If someone gets pushed
into that area,
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You will think that
family definitely
hear it
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And if they want to
walk to the camp,
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They will definitely do it
it has been seen
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it's like,
It's like in many things
from other cases
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It's like he's picked
out of the sky
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It's like just been snatched away
out of the sky
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the case
very reminiscent of
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Of the cases that occurred
decades before
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Right outside the estes park,
colorado
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St. Malo is...
Pure for Catholicism,
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This is one of the most visited
placed in the estes valley.
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Up on the hill
You have the statue of Christ.
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Then right below that,
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What is st.
Catherine's chapel
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The story of st.
Malo
really beautiful
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This back to a man
named father Joseph Pascetti,
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Who is the Catholic priest.
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One day, in 1916,
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He came to the valley of Tahosa
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And he and two or three
others are camping
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On the mountain slopes of meeker,
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When they see
a meteor on sky
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They rise up,
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Walk towards the meteor
hoping they can find where
it goes down,
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And finally stands up
on stone
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Where st.
Catherine
Chapel is located.
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And pascetti's father said
this will be a good place
for boys camp,
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And the rest is history.
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I am an interpreter key here,
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at st.
Catherine siena> s
chapel on stone.
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It was built in 1935
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As a chapel for camp kids
for years
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Many kids camp
come here
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And 1973, I came here
and became camp counselor
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at camp st.
Malo,
and love the outdoors.
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Every week,
children will continue to rise.
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Something's easy,
moderate and hard rise.
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And we will have a campfire
and night stay,
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Where do we do
theatrics and singing songs and...
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Friendship is extraordinary.
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This is August,
This is a warm summer month.
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Bobby bobby is
ten years old.
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He's partially deaf,
wear hearing aids
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And he likes fish.
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Well, on August 15,
around 6:00 pM
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Bobby fishing in the small
river behind the retreat,
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When becoming a counselor
Approaching him and telling him
it was dinner time
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Bobby admitted
counselor
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And start following it
going down to retreat
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As counselor
walking back,
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He turns around behind him
to see,
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And Bobby is gone.
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And that's when
the search starts
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St. Malo retreats and
summer camps
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Tepat di perbatasan
taman nasional gunung berbatu.
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Within four days there
400 searches from
national park services,
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Local sheriffs,
volunteers and sar experts.
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Officials
difficult to understand
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How can Bobby get lost
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Because it goes straight down
on a very clear path
to retreat
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During height
from the search,
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Civil air patrols went down
5,000 leaflets
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The one who told Bobby was
His parents loved him
and they needed it .
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On August 25,
a formal search
was stopped
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After nine days of effort.
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Now, there
three counselors
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It's looking for bobby
that all the time,
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And the next year
they come back.
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And one day, they walk
on the side of the mountain meeker,
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Right through
rock fields,
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About 2,000 feet
from retreats,
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And looking at hearing aids,
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And pieces of clothing.
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They found
the rest of bobby bizup
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And they found it
on the cliff,
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Get to the face
from meeker mount,
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What's here,
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Along the creek.
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He is in the ravine
that they have searched for
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At least three times
the previous year p >
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don't get me wrong,
bobby can't be lost
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Uphill, the slacker
is tiring
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And dangerous
hiking places p >
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Going down to retreats is
dinner and easy hikes.
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You mentioned it
Bobby is deaf
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When you see
in large image
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In the number of cases
that you have investigated,
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It looks like an abnormal
number
from these people
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Disappeared with some kind
physical disorders,
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Or genetic deficiencies.
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So the case of Bobby
happened August 15, 1958.
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But even today it happened
as we talked about.
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This third night
an idaho falls family
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Is spending without
their child
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More than 10,000
working hours have been completed
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Ke try to find
a missing toddler
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it's gone
it's got a lot
scratching their heads
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Ten miles west of tin,
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This camp
is the last place
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Some have seen a two-year-old child
deorr kunz jr
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a child of that age,
256
00:16:13,974 --> 00:16:17,809
75% of them are found inside
four tenths of a mile
257
00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:19,844
From the place that was last seen.
258
00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:23,514
I mean, you see the field
and it's very rough,
259
00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:26,718
But they can go further than
you think will make sense.
260
00:16:30,956 --> 00:16:32,824
I sent a deputy there,
261
00:16:32,826 --> 00:16:35,026
Active search and rescue
262
00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:37,228
sheriff
within a few hours
263
00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,496
He has several searchers
264
00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:40,431
Who is looking for
for this child
265
00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:42,767
Find him
266
00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:45,303
We use dogs
267
00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:48,072
For start with some
land seekers
268
00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:50,141
To start with, uh...
269
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,844
Helicopters enter
270
00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:58,549
I mean, the flare that is
is forward looking for
infrared for the night
271
00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,184
This is all done by these people.
272
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:02,720
This type of item,
search and rescue
273
00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,991
I want to spread everyone
out in one long chain.
274
00:17:06,993 --> 00:17:08,292
As broad as we can get.
275
00:17:08,294 --> 00:17:10,395
I mean, from the top of the hill
to the top of the hill ,
276
00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:12,330
We will walk
the main high road.
277
00:17:12,332 --> 00:17:14,732
I want to cover everything
small corners and slits,
278
00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:16,734
Close each log...
279
00:17:16,736 --> 00:17:20,138
Whatever it is
looks to turn around,
try to see.
280
00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:23,641
I am 90 to 100 miles per hour
walking around people, p >
281
00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:26,611
You know, just acting
like crazy to go up there.
282
00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:29,347
I think it will happen
really stupid
When I got above there
283
00:17:29,349 --> 00:17:31,215
And get out of the car
and he's there.
284
00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,252
You know, and I'm out of
the car and that isn't
what happens.
285
00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:37,188
You know, everyone says
286
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:39,590
Take five steps, look up,
look down, look around.
287
00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,093
Take five steps, look up,
look down and around.
288
00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:43,261
And that's what we do.
289
00:17:43,263 --> 00:17:45,930
I mean, there are
many areas up there
290
00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:47,231
There are people everywhere.
291
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,567
I mean, there are 200 plus
searchers there,
292
00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:51,669
The day after he left
lost on Saturday
293
00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:53,838
You know, there are
people in everywhere
294
00:17:58,877 --> 00:18:01,112
Maybe he fell
to the creek
295
00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:03,347
The river,
search and rescue crew
296
00:18:03,349 --> 00:18:05,116
Going through
their hands and feet,
297
00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:07,852
With the poles, really crawling
through the river.
298
00:18:07,854 --> 00:18:08,920
None.
299
00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:11,022
I guess they
check the nest of wolves,
300
00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:12,957
They check the nest of bears,
301
00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:14,425
They check eagle nests.
302
00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,061
Because the eagle can
take 30 pounds
303
00:18:17,063 --> 00:18:20,364
A little deorr weighed
around 27-28 pounds
304
00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:22,100
There are bears
in the area.
305
00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:24,802
There are bobcats,
There are mountain lions.
306
00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:26,404
There are other animals.
307
00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:30,374
But there will be some
some kind of clothes,
308
00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:33,444
Or bones, or something like that,
you will think.
309
00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:36,681
There are no clothes,
no meat
310
00:18:36,683 --> 00:18:39,117
Or anything that will be shown
that an animal got it.
311
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,719
There's no blood,
there's nothing there
312
00:18:45,557 --> 00:18:48,259
You know, you think you
will find something
313
00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:51,129
You are talking about
the trail you are looking for,
314
00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:53,030
Or maybe a boot is off.
315
00:18:53,032 --> 00:18:55,800
Well, they are camouflage
cowboy boots p >
316
00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,268
You know, the problem is,
317
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,570
Everything was there
at that time of year
that high.
318
00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,139
You know...
319
00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:03,341
It's the same size as him.
320
00:19:05,944 --> 00:19:07,678
That's possible.
321
00:19:09,414 --> 00:19:11,949
This little boot
is similar...
322
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,851
Actually this
is the right boot,
323
00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:15,720
It might be
some bigger size,
324
00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:19,257
Deorr it's used
the day he go missing
325
00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:22,226
I can tell you from experience,
326
00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:24,428
That these boots aren't
still really good
327
00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:26,564
My grandson kicked them
in the car seat
328
00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:28,266
Every time
we put him there
329
00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,036
They're too big for him,
so they're careless,
330
00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:34,071
And he's awkward indeed. P>
331
00:19:34,073 --> 00:19:36,607
When he walks,
he just walked awkwardly. P>
332
00:19:36,609 --> 00:19:39,810
Someone raised it,
cowboy boot must have
fallen from his feet.
333
00:19:39,812 --> 00:19:41,646
So if this is his boots
334
00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:45,082
Deorr is using
that day and they are too big,
335
00:19:45,084 --> 00:19:47,151
Of course if an animal
will grab it,
336
00:19:47,153 --> 00:19:49,020
Even if there are other people
/> kidnapped him,
337
00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,923
I think we will have
found... something
338
00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:54,926
Boots, his jacket...
339
00:19:56,395 --> 00:19:57,828
Something will be found
Up there.
340
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,802
We went for three or four days
without sleep
341
00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:06,404
And I reached the point where
342
00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,806
I was emotional chaos.
343
00:20:16,949 --> 00:20:18,616
You have to have
double investigation.
344
00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,985
You have to think of searching,
that's good.
345
00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,286
Then you can't find anything,
346
00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:24,322
Then you start focusing
on parents
347
00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:28,726
Then you focus on people,
who else is in the camp
around that time.
348
00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:30,695
And now they
come down hard
349
00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,063
On jessica and deorr.
350
00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:33,464
Try to play
one against the other
351
00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:35,600
To see if someone will say it.
352
00:20:35,602 --> 00:20:37,668
Law enforcement < br /> keep telling us
353
00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:40,538
That all individuals
are being cooperative.
354
00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:42,873
They are all questioned
individually,
355
00:20:42,875 --> 00:20:44,175
And together -sama.
356
00:20:44,177 --> 00:20:46,177
And they work
with them.
357
00:20:46,179 --> 00:20:49,213
None
some kind of red flag
358
00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,581
The police said it
359
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,751
It points them towards
one particular individual
360
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:56,254
You know, I have to do it
Hold his hand
361
00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:58,422
And go for a walk with him
and say,
362
00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:00,258
"You just have to promise me,
363
00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:02,093
If something happens
it happens,
364
00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:03,728
You have to talk to me, < br /> You have to tell me. "
365
00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:06,297
You know,
and the conversation
366
00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:08,199
It's very clear
and straight away,
367
00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:12,236
And he comes back and says,
"Mother, I don't know why
you did this to me.
368
00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:14,005
I have nothing
do with this. "
369
00:21:20,412 --> 00:21:22,980
deorr sr.
And jessica mitchell,
370
00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:24,482
Old man deorr young,
371
00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:28,619
Come to our studio
and look annoyed.
372
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,755
They look like they are
wearing the same clothes
373
00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,757
That's what they wore
when they camped
374
00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:36,193
He brought
a deor blanket
375
00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:37,895
It was dirty,
it's ragged,
376
00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,930
It's not washed.
And teddy bear.
377
00:21:39,932 --> 00:21:42,166
One of the little toys.
378
00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:45,436
We sit down, and like me < br /> do with any interview,
379
00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,505
Especially with
desperate parents,
380
00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,440
You want to show
affection and kindness.
381
00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:51,342
But you too
want to know if they
382
00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:54,211
Maybe something should be done
with his departure.
383
00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:56,080
Alright, deorr,
so take us back...
384
00:21:56,082 --> 00:21:58,382
Is it Friday?
385
00:21:58,384 --> 00:21:59,817
I'm not sure what day
it's today
386
00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:01,786
Today is Monday.
It's Friday.
-Yes.
It's Friday.
387
00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:03,087
Friday about... .
388
00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:07,158
2:26 is when I...
Is that 2:26?
389
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,826
It was 2:36.
390
00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:12,330
2: 36 is when he calls
and I am in the truck
391
00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:13,964
Extending my hand to the road,
trying to get service
392
00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:15,766
Because I don't think
one bar will get it
393
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,902
We... We only...
394
00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,837
Yes, we decided we
will explore a little.
395
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,073
He'll be fine
grandpa by the campfire
396
00:22:22,075 --> 00:22:24,909
-We don't
maybe more than 15--
-tenth minutes.
397
00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:26,444
Fifty yards away in ten minutes
398
00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:29,146
When I see it
399
00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:30,915
Until I know
he goes
400
00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:32,583
and the river is empty ?
401
00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:34,118
That little river,
there's nothing
402
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,787
They have a chainsaw,
um, move,
403
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:39,824
Because every a few feet
it's blocked.
404
00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:42,827
Blocked and
blocked from nature.
405
00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,430
From tress, from branches,
from debris p >
406
00:22:46,432 --> 00:22:49,600
I mean, there are lots of
from places he can,
407
00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:51,435
And that's what they
want to eliminate.
408
00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:52,670
That's my biggest concern.
409
00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:54,438
Because that's where
we passed
410
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,774
That means there is
Maybe he's still alive.
411
00:22:56,776 --> 00:23:00,578
And that's all I need
there's a chance to find out
he's still alive
412
00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,513
And until I have it...
413
00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:05,850
And closing, or he ,
no one stops
414
00:23:05,852 --> 00:23:09,687
do you know if someone
has a grudge against you
415
00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:11,722
I mean, I'm sure
gone through your mind...
416
00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:12,790
We have brought our brains.
417
00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:14,258
We have
brought our brains.
418
00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:16,494
And I don't know anyone
00:23:18,562
It will like you
or hate you
420
00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:21,399
But not to hurt a two-year-old child,
almost three years. p >
422
00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:26,437
Especially knowing how
much he meant to us.
423
00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,906
He's everything for us.
424
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880
no, we're actually
getting married next month
425
00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:37,248
oh.
426
00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:39,583
I saw the ring and didn't
know whether it was an engagement,
or...
427
00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:40,785
engagement.
428
00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:42,553
how long have you been
together?
Pop quiz
429
00:23:42,555 --> 00:23:44,522
- almost five years
- -yeah
430
00:23:48,727 --> 00:23:51,695
jessica always
very, very quiet
431
00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:55,800
He doesn't like to let it
People see it emotionally. P>
432
00:23:58,403 --> 00:23:59,670
yes, he's silent
433
00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:02,406
And he's one more
more dynamic
434
00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,008
Maybe you can say it
maybe wrong.
435
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,115
You know, the 911
call he made,
436
00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,383
Everyone keeps saying,
437
00:24:12,385 --> 00:24:14,718
< You know, why is that?
he's so calm
438
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,855
I
really camped on the leadore
439
00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:20,391
Only outside tin.
440
00:24:20,393 --> 00:24:21,559
uh huh.
441
00:24:21,561 --> 00:24:24,261
um, my two-year-old son...
442
00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:26,063
Um, we can't find it.
443
00:24:27,766 --> 00:24:29,567
I know them
need money.
444
00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:32,236
I know they owe
lots of money in montpelier,
445
00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,305
Lots of money
for child care <
446
00:24:34,307 --> 00:24:36,340
And I knew he had
his body tied since,
447
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:40,110
So he would never be able to
it was upside down, never
another child p >
448
00:24:40,112 --> 00:24:43,881
I think he did that because
he doesn't want children
449
00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,983
But there is evidence
that he is...
450
00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:48,819
Uh, experiencing difficulties
dealing with children
451
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,288
He will leave his child
in a daycare center,
452
00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:52,857
And leave him without supervision
many times.
453
00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:56,393
I have talked to many people
who took it.
454
00:24:56,395 --> 00:25:00,231
He has two children
from his ex-husband.
455
00:25:00,233 --> 00:25:03,868
And every weekend other
they went to his house
over the weekend.
456
00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:13,177
Looks like good kids.
Still think they are good kids.
457
00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:15,079
Um...
458
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,615
They are sick... Bad.
459
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:19,683
Um...
460
00:25:20,752 --> 00:25:23,153
I've been holding deorr while
she's crying
461
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,923
After we
finished the interview,
462
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,825
I said, "Okay, I hope
he was found today
463
00:25:27,827 --> 00:25:30,628
I hope you found it today."
464
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:32,263
And then, that night,
465
00:25:32,265 --> 00:25:34,698
I see them again
on sunbathing.
466
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:36,166
hear god
from all comforts, sir,
467
00:25:36,168 --> 00:25:39,603
That you will feel comfortable
heart jessica and deorr
468
00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:40,838
And trina, sir.
469
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,473
He can be very, very close.
470
00:25:42,475 --> 00:25:43,941
He can be very far away.
471
00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:46,644
We are not know,
but we close
all bases at the moment.
472
00:25:46,646 --> 00:25:50,948
Not much can be said
apart from one small mistake
as a parent
473
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:54,885
You know, leaving him
with adults
474
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,554
That turns his head
for a while,
475
00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:57,955
They move, they go.
476
00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,691
Please, appreciate
and love each other.
477
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:02,993
Because it can be changed < br /> in just a split second.
478
00:26:02,995 --> 00:26:05,563
and they say that
they depart from
just in case
479
00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:07,565
To go back up
to camp
480
00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:08,866
To keep looking.
481
00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:40,431
basically what we
will do is choose an area
482
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,866
Do we want
to climb and explore.
483
00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:47,605
So when we join
the great south road
for the first time,
484
00:26:47,607 --> 00:26:50,708
Beautiful ascension,
beautiful, beautiful river
485
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,613
This is really a wild area.
486
00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:59,049
And the reason
why did Gary and I
really enjoy
487
00:26:59,051 --> 00:27:00,317
Hiking together.
488
00:27:04,889 --> 00:27:06,890
And then that
just a coincidence
489
00:27:06,892 --> 00:27:08,926
That we end up
on the rock
490
00:27:08,928 --> 00:27:11,562
And say, you know,
"Let's climb the hill."
491
00:27:11,564 --> 00:27:16,100
And I think it's about < br /> 2,000 feet climb
492
00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,435
Altitude to get to
the top of that
493
00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:21,271
But the country is truly extraordinary.
494
00:27:21,273 --> 00:27:22,673
yeah well....
495
00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:24,608
Pretty much it feels
almost scrambling.
496
00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:26,543
So you see your feet,
497
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,679
And basically you
just focus
498
00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:30,214
A few meters in front of
from you, your own feet,
499
00:27:30,216 --> 00:27:32,149
So you don't turn your ankles
or something.
500
00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:34,051
And that's when I see
shoes.
501
00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:41,525
It feels like someone
just took their foot
out of it, you know
502
00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:42,926
It's very fresh,
I think like
503
00:27:42,928 --> 00:27:45,095
I'll see the little boy
standing in front of me
504
00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:51,268
- Cheese.
- -and who is your name? P>
505
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:54,238
Now give me that big smile
with dimples.
506
00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,407
Yes!
507
00:27:56,409 --> 00:27:58,842
it's not so much
that he likes the robber.
508
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,644
He loves silver and black. p >
509
00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:02,880
And when he saw the robbers
on tv one day,
510
00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:04,648
He was like, "Daddy, there are
silver and black teams."
511
00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,917
I said, "yes, there is."
"that's my team, daddy." P>
512
00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:08,352
And I'm like, "okay." P>
513
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,753
So he's a raider fan.
514
00:28:11,222 --> 00:28:12,856
My name is jocelyn atadero,
515
00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:14,625
And my brother jaryd atadero
is missing
516
00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:17,294
In the colorado mountains
in 1999.
517
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,798
When I was young,
518
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,466
My father will tell me that
I will tell him
519
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,435
Certain memories I have of
from the increase. P>
520
00:28:24,437 --> 00:28:25,869
As I get older,
521
00:28:25,871 --> 00:28:29,339
I can't even tell you what
I told him at that time. P>
522
00:28:29,341 --> 00:28:31,642
The only memories I have
523
00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:34,311
From the resort,
or during that time period,
524
00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:37,114
Is after jaryd
gone
525
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:39,083
We returned
at the resort in a room...
526
00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,651
I can't even tell you where,
527
00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:42,586
And my father
kneels on the ground crying,
528
00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:43,887
And I hugged him.
529
00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:51,061
I'm interested in
to poudre canyon,
530
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:53,964
Because, you know,
the tree is beautiful
531
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,167
And you know there are
items out there,
532
00:28:57,169 --> 00:28:58,368
But it's just that
interesting because
533
00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,938
You're part of
canyon poudre there.
534
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:06,777
it's about
a resort of 10 are.
535
00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:09,413
It's small, but, you know,
we keep busy
536
00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:13,751
it's all about
just being there
537
00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:15,753
That one of them
a situation where
538
00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,722
If you really have
a small shop there...
539
00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:21,024
We wake up at six
in the morning day
540
00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,427
And we close at eleven
at night.
541
00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:26,930
Don't just do it
take care of us,
542
00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:28,832
But how many people
got the chance
543
00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:31,135
Next
for their children 24/7?
544
00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:34,104
And that's what I really
enjoyed about the canyon
545
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,405
There are only
three of us.
546
00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:37,641
I mean, even though
a family at the resort,
547
00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:39,042
We have those people
working for us,
548
00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:40,544
That's jocelyn, jared and me.
549
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:42,379
We know that
we are family
550
00:29:48,486 --> 00:29:51,922
The group decided that they wanted it
to go to the trout farm,
551
00:29:51,924 --> 00:29:53,423
Fishing,
right around the corner
552
00:29:53,425 --> 00:29:56,226
Maybe about one and a half miles ,
two miles
from the resort itself
553
00:29:58,696 --> 00:30:00,230
Hey, allyn.
Jocelyn wants to know...
554
00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:02,032
some people
I know pretty well.
555
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:05,002
So I gave permission
for jocelyn to go.
556
00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,104
Don't know that jaryd
will say,
557
00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:10,174
" Wow, dad, if he can go,
Why don't I leave too? " P>
558
00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:13,577
He holds his shoes. P>
559
00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:15,212
He hates binding his shoes. P>
560
00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:17,014
So I didn't make it
his shoe tie
561
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:19,283
And he likes
a cream jacket
562
00:30:20,618 --> 00:30:21,819
Have fun, okay?
563
00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:24,321
Don't get too close
to the water
564
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:27,958
I let jaryd go and I assume
that's where they go.
565
00:30:38,903 --> 00:30:41,705
Moderate.
Oops, downs.
566
00:30:41,707 --> 00:30:44,875
You can take a child there
as long as you keep
the child queues
567
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,945
And depends on it. P>
568
00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:52,216
Because there are several
areas where there are only edges
24 inches wide
569
00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:55,652
And you have a loose shell
all the way down
to the river, so...
570
00:30:55,654 --> 00:30:57,087
And then there are
rock fields
571
00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:58,522
Being a moderate footprint,
that's quite difficult
572
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:02,025
If you are not in shape,
it will take him out of you.
573
00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:05,629
The church group rises
south south on the trail.
574
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:06,897
They park the car in end of the road,
575
00:31:06,899 --> 00:31:09,166
And they start walking
on the path.
576
00:31:15,006 --> 00:31:18,442
They start separating or
Stretching as they walk.
577
00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:20,510
Some people are faster and slower.
578
00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:26,149
An adult with a sister jaryd
and jaryd ,
579
00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,919
It looks like in front of
from someone else
580
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,422
As jaryd,
as a three year old child,
581
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:35,425
Running and playing < br /> and have fun.
582
00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,995
And I believe
there is something
583
00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:40,697
Ten to twenty minutes
worth of time
584
00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:43,567
That he lost track...
585
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:47,137
Adults realize, "I didn't
see it for a while."
586
00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:49,706
And when they climbed
to try to find it,
587
00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:51,909
They keep thinking
they will catch up,
588
00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,343
And they don't catch up.
589
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:56,747
It's reported that he's
talking to some fishermen
590
00:31:56,749 --> 00:32:00,884
And he asks if
there are bears around.
591
00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:03,320
And he's alone in this matter
time point.
592
00:32:07,158 --> 00:32:10,427
At least they have an idea,
You know, roughly
593
00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:12,195
Where he was last seen. P>
594
00:32:17,802 --> 00:32:21,204
I was cleaning up
a few things,
595
00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:25,442
and decided to sit down <
596
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:28,111
And I must have watched
for maybe 15 or 20 minutes,
597
00:32:28,113 --> 00:32:29,680
And I slowly nodded.
598
00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:36,853
something wrong.
600
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:42,726
"What happened?"
and they said,
601
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,329
"We have a problem
with jaryd."
602
00:32:45,331 --> 00:32:48,398
< "What happened? Did he fall?
Did he scrape his knee?
603
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,734
Did he break his arm?
What happened?"
604
00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:52,736
And what actually they
said to me is,
605
00:32:53,738 --> 00:32:57,207
"he's fine
We can't find him."
606
00:32:57,209 --> 00:33:00,811
At that time, I realized
I had to go up the road.
607
00:33:00,813 --> 00:33:03,213
We entered our car.
I'm in my truck.
608
00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:05,082
And I'm like, "well,
where are we going?"
609
00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:07,351
They say it's about...
I don't remember
610
00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:09,586
Sixteen, fifteen, sixteen years
miles on the road.
611
00:33:09,588 --> 00:33:11,855
I'm like, "are you serious?"
612
00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,691
How did you get that?
far down the road?
613
00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:18,996
And along the way
on the road,
614
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:20,597
I kept beating myself
on the chest,
615
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,499
Like someone who was stabbed
me with a sword
616
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:25,102
Just hit my chest
and shout.
617
00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:26,703
Father is sorry, little one.
618
00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:27,971
Just shouting the name jaryd.
619
00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,639
Sorry I let you go
620
00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:32,376
Shouting for god
To help me.
621
00:33:32,378 --> 00:33:33,977
Please help me find
my son, my lord
622
00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:35,078
Just shouting and screaming.
623
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,580
I shouted and screamed
in my truck
624
00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:38,348
All the way up the road. P>
625
00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,384
I don't even know how to do it
I got there. P>
626
00:33:40,386 --> 00:33:42,986
I drove that way
maybe twice as fast
627
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:45,288
Like everyone else
riding that road
628
00:33:50,561 --> 00:33:52,029
Jaryd!
629
00:33:57,735 --> 00:33:59,403
Jaryd !
630
00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:04,508
And when I ran on that path,
631
00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,977
I shouted and shouted,
and screamed his name,
632
00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:08,211
Screamed, "jaryd."
633
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,013
Screamed "jay-rod."
I call him jay-rod.
634
00:34:10,015 --> 00:34:11,415
I call him "my little boy."
635
00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:14,251
I call all names
I can,
636
00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:17,554
Trying to get a response
from him. P>
637
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,224
Dan aku mendengarkan.
638
00:34:33,871 --> 00:34:36,706
And I'm not so sure
how far we wake up on the path,
639
00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:40,143
But I stop and I'm aware,
"God.
This will be....
640
00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:42,045
This is not what
I think that
641
00:34:42,047 --> 00:34:43,780
I can't get here
and find him. "
642
00:34:51,289 --> 00:34:55,559
we work for
solid eight days
start with.
643
00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:59,796
And that's 24 hours a day
for eight days
644
00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:02,799
We will continue
any visual contact when.
645
00:35:02,801 --> 00:35:05,435
We did a couple of nights looking for.
646
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,270
It's limited
to a certain degree,
647
00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:10,907
But we always have
people in field
648
00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,476
To make a scene,
649
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:14,311
So if someone
is out there now,
650
00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:16,780
Jaryd must have heard it,
he might just
651
00:35:16,782 --> 00:35:19,449
Respond or go to.
652
00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:24,054
it's very intense
Very media friendly.
653
00:35:24,056 --> 00:35:26,056
I mean,
there is media, cnn...
654
00:35:26,058 --> 00:35:29,426
So it becomes a real
national episode
655
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:33,530
So, it makes a lot of stress
on us and a lot of stress
on dogs
656
00:35:41,339 --> 00:35:43,673
That is a situation where...
657
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,078
People lose hope.
658
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,547
Like, we won't < br /> find him, you know
659
00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:53,250
This is one of the situations
where he disappeared
660
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,125
We have climbed the area
several times before,
661
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:04,761
And we talked about
662
00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,463
Mystery jaryd atadero.
663
00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:08,198
Has he ever
swept downstream,
664
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,234
Kidnapped by mountain lions, p >
665
00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:14,271
Or something
more evil than that
666
00:36:14,273 --> 00:36:16,907
This time, we decided
to go trace.
667
00:36:16,909 --> 00:36:19,743
And we just walked
go directly into it
668
00:36:19,745 --> 00:36:22,712
And we know right away
669
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:26,283
That might be
jaryd atadero & apos; s clothes
670
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,862
No...
Wow, that's difficult.
671
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:40,197
It's impossible.
Not possible.
672
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:41,831
-SAYA...
- right not possible
673
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,267
Not all the way
I can't see him leaving...
674
00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,404
He lives in a cabin -
675
00:36:47,406 --> 00:36:49,105
He's three year.
There is no way...
676
00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:51,274
There is no way
it will happen
677
00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:54,411
Yes.
I mean, this is a struggle
/> for gary and I got there
678
00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:55,812
Very rough terrain.
679
00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:30,247
there is a k-9 warning
680
00:37:30,249 --> 00:37:32,249
It will go
that direction.
681
00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,784
Now, are they correct
on the scree field,
682
00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:38,822
Or before that, but that's right
at least remind that hill.
683
00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:41,458
That's why am I enough
Surely we searched it,
684
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:44,828
Because we...
When warning dogs like that,
685
00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:46,796
We were thinking, "okay,
something must be up there
686
00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,332
Come there
and look for it."
687
00:37:49,334 --> 00:37:51,635
But we never
find something
688
00:37:51,637 --> 00:37:55,472
I think whatever happens is
beyond our understanding
689
00:37:57,041 --> 00:37:58,808
In many of these cases,
690
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:01,778
Search and save,
or volunteer
looking for people
691
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,780
Already gone
in certain areas,
692
00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:07,117
Not once, not twice,
but even tens of times.
693
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,353
Then,
The child was found there
694
00:38:10,355 --> 00:38:12,589
Maybe a year,
Maybe a few years later.
695
00:38:15,493 --> 00:38:17,494
when did we
find His clothes
696
00:38:17,496 --> 00:38:18,762
And back there,
697
00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:21,264
With some people
involved in the search,
698
00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,766
You know, they are all
scratching their head
699
00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:25,001
Like, you know, they have
all already there
700
00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,803
Regions.
701
00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:30,507
My conclusion is
an animal meeting
702
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:32,409
Right at the beginning.
703
00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:36,546
So, I'm not sure
officially
704
00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:40,350
What the actual
was released as finality,
705
00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:44,454
But that's quite a number of points
to the animal meeting
706
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,890
If a cat really carries it,
707
00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:50,160
That's what I believe,
I believe it happens
708
00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:52,796
That cat must have been taken
he's some place
709
00:38:52,798 --> 00:38:54,364
And buried it, and...
710
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:56,466
With all its activities
it's happening
711
00:38:56,468 --> 00:38:58,401
Maybe so too
has gone away,
712
00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:00,170
Because we will have
the fear is gone,
713
00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:02,072
And that's the way it is
coming back later
714
00:39:03,974 --> 00:39:07,410
I heard continuously
about mountain lions
715
00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:11,781
However, when they were tested
clothes jaryd,
716
00:39:11,783 --> 00:39:13,416
There there is
no mountain lion hair,
717
00:39:13,418 --> 00:39:16,986
There is no dna, there is no blood,
not in her clothes
718
00:39:16,988 --> 00:39:20,190
This is actually the
left of the skull
719
00:39:20,192 --> 00:39:21,891
After the four tests it is different.
720
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:26,262
To think that I'm...
721
00:39:26,264 --> 00:39:28,732
I mean, I'm having trouble
understanding this
722
00:39:28,734 --> 00:39:31,501
But I think I'm actually
sitting on here
holding my child...
723
00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:34,938
Here's what I have
left him
724
00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:40,243
The clothes were sent
to cbi
725
00:39:40,245 --> 00:39:42,078
The clothes are tested by cbi. P>
726
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,547
There is no mountain hair lion,
727
00:39:44,549 --> 00:39:47,784
There is no blood, nothing
from clothing items. P>
728
00:39:51,355 --> 00:39:54,124
If a mountain lion
will attack him,
729
00:39:54,126 --> 00:39:55,759
They go to the stomach area.
730
00:39:55,761 --> 00:39:57,794
This jacket will
have been torn
731
00:39:57,796 --> 00:39:59,262
I have been told
by several people,
732
00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:00,897
Mountain lion experts
in the forest,
733
00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:04,234
This jacket won't
congratulate you from the mountain lion
attack, point
734
00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:05,802
These are actual shoes.
735
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:08,405
These are jaryd
shoes that found
up on the mountain
736
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,039
I've been told by experts
737
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,142
That they don't look like
they have
in the wilderness p >
738
00:40:12,144 --> 00:40:13,510
For three and a half years.
739
00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:16,913
That other thing
Interesting about shoes
740
00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,982
Would you think
741
00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:22,552
That's if a mountain lion < br /> dragging his body
742
00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,487
Up the mountain,
743
00:40:24,489 --> 00:40:26,322
And dragging it like this,
744
00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,358
You will see the
sign on the shoe.
745
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,527
And there is no sign here.
746
00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:33,863
You will think if that's the case
dragging it like this
747
00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:35,298
Up the mountain,
748
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:36,833
You will not only do it
see the sign,
749
00:40:36,835 --> 00:40:39,536
But it will be interesting
the shoes long before
750
00:40:39,538 --> 00:40:41,337
The area where they found it.
751
00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:43,807
Jaryd's pants
found inside out.
752
00:40:44,642 --> 00:40:46,543
When people first see this,
753
00:40:46,545 --> 00:40:49,312
They get scared, and go away,
"geez!
754
00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:51,514
What can be
what happened to him ? "
755
00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:54,451
There are birds
and mice and so on
756
00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:55,852
Literally pulling it apart,
757
00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:58,755
Using material
as nesting
758
00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:00,557
So you see
this material everywhere
759
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,692
So it's not because
something attacked him
760
00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,327
And tore his leg.
761
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:08,465
This all because
rats and birds
762
00:41:10,734 --> 00:41:13,670
We lighten in one sense,
763
00:41:13,672 --> 00:41:15,772
That mystery exists
has been solved
764
00:41:16,273 --> 00:41:17,907
My feelings about that is that
765
00:41:17,909 --> 00:41:22,011
Jaryd was kidnapped
on the rock
766
00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:23,413
By the mountain lion.
767
00:41:23,415 --> 00:41:26,449
Mountain lion
He grabs his shoulder,
768
00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:30,420
And immediately goes up
this side of the mountain.
769
00:41:30,422 --> 00:41:32,155
Inside one of those reports,
770
00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:33,990
Someone said,
771
00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:36,526
"the reason why we didn't find it
DNA or blood
772
00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:41,498
Is it because of him?
or something deleted
his clothes
773
00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:49,639
Either jaryd or whatever
took off his clothes
before he was attacked.
774
00:41:50,541 --> 00:41:52,509
And they kept saying that
775
00:41:52,511 --> 00:41:54,544
< "Because there are so many
pedestrians coming,
776
00:41:54,546 --> 00:41:58,581
That mountain lion took it
jaryd's body 500 feet
on the cliff side. "
777
00:41:58,583 --> 00:42:00,116
Wait a minute
778
00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,384
I can buy all of that.
779
00:42:01,386 --> 00:42:03,152
But I can't buy this.
780
00:42:03,154 --> 00:42:07,390
If something or someone takes < brary> jaryd's clothes die
before he is attacked,
781
00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:10,527
That means her clothes
aren't with her
782
00:42:10,529 --> 00:42:12,662
When this is done
He climbs the mountain.
783
00:42:14,431 --> 00:42:16,599
Jaryd's pants
found inside out
784
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,202
It says many people
mountain lion experts,
785
00:42:19,204 --> 00:42:22,305
Mountain lions don't draw
clothes from you,
786
00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,407
Especially your pants
and leave them there
on the mountain
787
00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:25,742
Inside out.
788
00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:28,044
Too much...
789
00:42:28,046 --> 00:42:31,247
There are too many questions
who doesn't have an answer
790
00:42:31,249 --> 00:42:33,917
And I feel very, my family
and I feel strong
791
00:42:33,919 --> 00:42:35,885
That's someone
out there
792
00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:37,954
Who knows a little
more than we know
793
00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:52,769
You know, when I
asked about this
794
00:42:52,771 --> 00:42:54,871
From people who have heard it
our interview
795
00:42:54,873 --> 00:42:56,673
People will obey it
796
00:42:56,675 --> 00:42:58,274
It's a bear,
it's a mountain lion,
797
00:42:58,276 --> 00:42:59,642
This is some kind of animal.
798
00:42:59,644 --> 00:43:01,411
But I mean, they left a clue,
there is evidence
799
00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:02,912
There is blood,
there is a network,
800
00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:05,515
There are indications
a struggle, right?
801
00:43:05,517 --> 00:43:06,950
oh, of course
802
00:43:06,952 --> 00:43:09,519
And when the tracker enters
with search and rescue,
803
00:43:09,521 --> 00:43:11,254
They look for the indicator. P>
804
00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:14,223
There will be a big one
Blood scene,
805
00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:16,659
Hair, drag and objects,
806
00:43:16,661 --> 00:43:19,095
Like an animal it
takes you away
807
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:21,064
That's one of the points
that we are veterinarians
808
00:43:21,066 --> 00:43:23,266
Before we look inside
one of these cases
809
00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:25,768
And in the last 100 years,
810
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:28,871
There were only 14 fatal
mountain lion attacks
811
00:43:28,873 --> 00:43:31,040
in the United States
and Canada
812
00:43:45,923 --> 00:43:47,924
idaho falls, idaho,
813
00:43:49,126 --> 00:43:51,227
and robert c.
Walton.
814
00:43:57,434 --> 00:43:59,669
I didn't play
with him a lot
815
00:43:59,671 --> 00:44:01,871
He just arrived
the point where he
816
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,074
Can do something,
you know.
817
00:44:05,076 --> 00:44:09,045
He's here quite a bit
with jessica
818
00:44:09,047 --> 00:44:11,681
And he came here
and a bum of sweets from me
819
00:44:20,724 --> 00:44:22,425
well... p >
820
00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:25,428
Sure.
I think a little.
821
00:44:26,398 --> 00:44:31,901
I think
everyone there
has a little guilt about it.
822
00:44:32,403 --> 00:44:33,770
You know? P>
823
00:44:33,772 --> 00:44:35,171
Deorr and jessica
say that
824
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,774
They decided to go
camping that weekend
825
00:44:37,776 --> 00:44:40,543
To kind of revive <
826
00:44:40,545 --> 00:44:43,513
Good memories for
Bob Walton's grandfather
827
00:44:43,515 --> 00:44:46,649
This is apparently a point
that in previous years
828
00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:49,218
Bob Walton went there
several times.
829
00:44:50,454 --> 00:44:53,056
Grandfather is on oxygen.
830
00:44:53,058 --> 00:44:55,758
Some say,
have some memory problems
831
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,794
Law enforcement,
from the first day,
832
00:44:57,796 --> 00:44:59,962
Keep
putting aside grandfather, p >
833
00:44:59,964 --> 00:45:01,998
Because of their health problems,
834
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,601
And they don't think that
in the right frame of mind
835
00:45:05,603 --> 00:45:07,603
Doing something like this.
836
00:45:07,605 --> 00:45:09,439
With my father
837
00:45:09,441 --> 00:45:11,607
I asked Jessica
to go up there,
838
00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:15,611
To be with her in the event
something happened
for my father
839
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:17,080
It could be
take care of him.
840
00:45:17,082 --> 00:45:18,648
I don't know bob,
841
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:20,817
And I've never met issac.
842
00:45:20,819 --> 00:45:25,621
But it's the only one < br /> Two other people there,
843
00:45:25,623 --> 00:45:28,024
Apart from Jessica
and deorr...
844
00:45:28,026 --> 00:45:30,026
If he was taken
from the camp,
845
00:45:30,028 --> 00:45:31,894
They must be
involved somehow. P>
846
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,896
Since deorr kunz
disappeared,
847
00:45:33,898 --> 00:45:37,400
Many have questions
about whose friend it is
with family
848
00:45:37,402 --> 00:45:38,935
That day at the campsite.
849
00:45:38,937 --> 00:45:41,537
The name is the reinwand issac.
850
00:45:41,539 --> 00:45:43,639
So we went to his house
idaho fell home
851
00:45:43,641 --> 00:45:46,275
Again and again...
852
00:45:46,277 --> 00:45:47,376
Hello. P>
853
00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:48,511
... And more.
854
00:45:49,513 --> 00:45:51,414
Finally,
Monday morning,
855
00:45:51,416 --> 00:45:52,682
He answered the door.
856
00:45:52,684 --> 00:45:54,684
I'm Miss Eonon with
East idaho news
857
00:45:54,686 --> 00:45:56,786
Yes, I don't have it
question, I'm sorry
858
00:45:56,788 --> 00:45:58,121
You don't have anything
you want to say? P>
859
00:45:58,123 --> 00:45:59,756
Alright.
Sorry to wake you up
860
00:45:59,758 --> 00:46:02,558
We just want to see
if you have something to say
about deorr missing
861
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,227
-Not me.
-You don't? p >
862
00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:08,231
So he's only with you
and his grandfather
when did he leave?
863
00:46:08,233 --> 00:46:11,467
And then, you guys think
he's with parents?
864
00:46:13,203 --> 00:46:14,704
Yes.
865
00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:16,506
And the old man returns
and he leaves?
866
00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:19,041
Mm-hmm.
867
00:46:08,043 --> 00:46:21,177
Okay, listen.
I don't have...
I don't... I can't...
868
00:46:21,179 --> 00:46:23,679
I don't want to answer
any more questions or anything
869
00:46:23,681 --> 00:46:25,114
Thank you sir
870
00:46:25,116 --> 00:46:27,350
The strange thing about issac,
he never looked for that boy
871
00:46:27,352 --> 00:46:29,318
I interviewed issac.
872
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,287
He's a weird duck.
873
00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:36,125
And he did have before
the belief in sex crimes.
874
00:46:36,127 --> 00:46:39,328
it was reduced to
a minor crime and violation.
875
00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:41,097
And things the weird one
876
00:46:41,099 --> 00:46:44,700
Is the morning after that
the little boy is gone,
877
00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:46,335
He got up and said
some people,
878
00:46:46,337 --> 00:46:49,105
"It's a break best night
I have been a long time ago. "
879
00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:52,275
The old man told me that
they have never met issac
880
00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:54,076
Until this camping trip.
881
00:46:54,078 --> 00:46:56,746
The grandfather said,
"oh, I will
bring a friend.
882
00:46:56,748 --> 00:46:58,748
We will go fishing together.
883
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:00,983
We will have fun at the weekend
go together. "
884
00:47:00,985 --> 00:47:02,985
And the old man
okay with that
885
00:47:05,757 --> 00:47:07,023
Bob walton?
886
00:47:07,025 --> 00:47:08,391
That's one of mine belongs
good friend I met him
887
00:47:08,393 --> 00:47:11,294
When I live continuously
chamberlain avenue.
888
00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:14,063
I already know it
five years or more.
889
00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:16,399
He always tries
help me out
890
00:47:16,401 --> 00:47:20,169
And I have done the work
for him in his yard
891
00:47:20,171 --> 00:47:24,273
He always invites me
fishing every year, so...
892
00:47:24,275 --> 00:47:26,709
I decided to do it
go this year too,
893
00:47:26,711 --> 00:47:28,211
Because, you know, < br /> it's fun.
894
00:47:32,382 --> 00:47:34,283
It's good and clear.
895
00:47:34,285 --> 00:47:39,021
I don't know
It's noisy
because of the little river.
896
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:41,924
But besides that,
It's a beautiful day.
897
00:47:41,926 --> 00:47:44,493
Nothing the real
cloud in the sky
898
00:47:49,499 --> 00:47:52,501
not too much.
It's just that I'm fishing
899
00:47:52,503 --> 00:47:54,604
And issac is watching me,
900
00:47:54,606 --> 00:47:57,940
And he very excited
I caught a few.
901
00:47:57,942 --> 00:47:59,942
He'll get
the poles out
902
00:47:59,944 --> 00:48:02,378
I think we got caught
four or five.
903
00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:05,715
About that time, here it is
jess and deorr back.
905
00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:12,655
They have to go down
get some gas for the truck
906
00:48:12,657 --> 00:48:14,090
And they come back.
907
00:48:14,092 --> 00:48:17,460
being an issac and
jessica and deorr is...
908
00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,897
Going fishing.
909
00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:23,432
And that child
with me,
910
00:48:23,434 --> 00:48:26,135
But I turned around
Just a minute, I don't know
911
00:48:26,137 --> 00:48:29,639
For how long, five or ten
minutes, I don't know
912
00:48:29,641 --> 00:48:32,541
Grandfather claims himself
not into the trailer.
913
00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:34,243
But I'm sure he do it.
914
00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:36,312
I believe he did it
get into the trailer
915
00:48:36,314 --> 00:48:38,147
I showed it
some fishing holes.
916
00:48:38,149 --> 00:48:40,383
I'll go down
to another fishing hole
917
00:48:40,385 --> 00:48:44,186
I might be down there
half an hour, one hour, and...
918
00:48:44,188 --> 00:48:47,590
I looked to the right where
they're fishing
919
00:48:47,592 --> 00:48:50,493
And I see them
fishing poles lay eggs there
on the ground,
920
00:48:50,495 --> 00:48:51,861
And they're not there.
921
00:48:51,863 --> 00:48:54,297
then
is this coming deorr
922
00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:56,632
What are the words?
"Little lady?"
923
00:48:56,634 --> 00:48:59,302
And I said,
"He was there. "
you know.
924
00:48:59,304 --> 00:49:03,139
And then, I see my friend bob
on the ridge
925
00:49:03,141 --> 00:49:05,775
And I approached him
and asked what was
going on.
926
00:49:05,777 --> 00:49:07,843
And he said,
"deorr is gone."
927
00:49:07,845 --> 00:49:09,979
So we all start
look for it
928
00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:14,450
no.
929
00:49:14,452 --> 00:49:16,652
No, I'm the last
to see the child
930
00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:21,023
And that's not that much ..
Five ten minutes.
931
00:49:21,025 --> 00:49:23,326
They look for it
themselves.
932
00:49:23,328 --> 00:49:25,661
Everyone will have
to have someone
to blame here
933
00:49:25,663 --> 00:49:27,530
You know, and unfortunately
934
00:49:27,532 --> 00:49:31,300
The last person to see it
will be the one that has
blame, you know
935
00:49:31,302 --> 00:49:34,837
I mean, there are four people
at the campsite that day.
936
00:49:34,839 --> 00:49:37,506
If all those people
worry about it,
937
00:49:37,508 --> 00:49:40,042
Babies should go
with parents
938
00:49:40,044 --> 00:49:42,678
He chose not to do it
he wanted to stay with my father
939
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,213
He wants candy.
940
00:49:44,215 --> 00:49:46,949
This is a campsite
where deorr and his family
are camping
941
00:49:46,951 --> 00:49:48,117
Looks like
your average campsite <
942
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,519
You have a fire pit,
picnic table...
943
00:49:50,521 --> 00:49:53,756
Very close to the river we
have heard a lot.
944
00:49:53,758 --> 00:49:55,958
Actually, the river small
only here,
945
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,360
A few meters away.
946
00:49:57,362 --> 00:49:59,462
Pay attention to the terrain
down to the water
947
00:49:59,464 --> 00:50:00,796
This is very steep. p >
948
00:50:03,167 --> 00:50:05,534
Not me...
949
00:50:05,536 --> 00:50:08,637
I really don't know what
happened to a little deorr.
950
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,172
In my heart or nothing else. p >
951
00:50:14,012 --> 00:50:16,178
no, I'm not.
952
00:50:17,514 --> 00:50:20,049
It's not me.
953
00:50:20,051 --> 00:50:23,285
I really don't know what
happened to that child
954
00:50:25,422 --> 00:50:27,189
I'm not know how much
more you need
955
00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:29,158
Will be fun
to get him back
956
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,560
That's the only
I can say
957
00:50:33,663 --> 00:50:37,800
We stayed there until
about, you know,...
958
00:50:37,802 --> 00:50:39,301
Left red cross.
959
00:50:39,303 --> 00:50:43,406
Until the law enforcers tell us
we can go home, so...
960
00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,043
and coincidence,
961
00:50:47,045 --> 00:50:49,045
Where is
deorr disappears,
962
00:50:49,047 --> 00:50:50,146
Above that campsite,
963
00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,148
There is a large rock field
964
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:55,051
Extending a
extraordinary distance
965
00:50:55,053 --> 00:50:56,886
And that will happen
one of those areas
966
00:50:56,888 --> 00:50:58,788
That I will give
looks intense. P>
967
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:05,227
According to
oregon state police,
968
00:51:05,229 --> 00:51:08,998
There are 41 missing children
on oregon
969
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,367
One of them is samuel boehlke.
970
00:51:11,369 --> 00:51:13,402
He is eight years old
When he disappears
971
00:51:13,404 --> 00:51:15,838
In the crater lake
six and a half years ago. P>
972
00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:31,120
danau kawah ini
tempat yang indah.
973
00:51:31,122 --> 00:51:32,988
First time
someone saw it
974
00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:35,191
And the 100th time
someone saw it,
975
00:51:35,193 --> 00:51:37,259
You said, "wow."
976
00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:42,198
This is the top of a mountain.
977
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,402
It exploded thousands of
years ago,
978
00:51:47,204 --> 00:51:48,938
It was a volcanic caldera
979
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:55,177
The water
the most incredible blue
you can imagine.
980
00:51:55,179 --> 00:51:56,779
tiring beautiful
981
00:51:56,781 --> 00:51:59,248
I've been there
dozens of times.
982
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,716
Maybe a hundred times
983
00:52:02,185 --> 00:52:04,453
This is one of the most
foreign places
984
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:07,022
That you really can
imagine on earth
985
00:52:07,024 --> 00:52:08,524
Every trip is < br /> I've gone there,
986
00:52:08,526 --> 00:52:11,460
This is also different
A kind of mood.
987
00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:20,035
Three two one.
988
00:52:20,037 --> 00:52:23,873
The best news about today
989
00:52:23,875 --> 00:52:25,307
br /> search and rescue business is
that weather...
990
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:28,244
This is the story
also frustrating.
991
00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:32,181
Some of them just started badly
and they got worse.
992
00:52:34,751 --> 00:52:37,052
The way I understand sammy & apos ; s
vanished is him
993
00:52:37,054 --> 00:52:39,155
Visiting the crater lake
with his father
994
00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:43,726
Living in
diamond lake resort
995
00:52:45,228 --> 00:52:48,697
He has some
developmental problems
996
00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:49,832
Maybe some, uh...
997
00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:53,869
Some forms of
autism on the scale
998
00:52:53,871 --> 00:52:55,671
When in the crater lake,
999
00:52:55,673 --> 00:53:00,576
They were near what he called
cleetwood bay ignored.
1000
00:53:00,578 --> 00:53:04,346
They got about a quarter of a mile
east
1001
00:53:04,348 --> 00:53:06,115
From the trail of the cove cove.
1002
00:53:06,117 --> 00:53:09,718
And they parked, and he
kinda ran away.
1003
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:13,022
In some cases
sammy crosses the road,
and he wakes up this
1004
00:53:13,024 --> 00:53:17,092
A scree hill of the type
a few pieces of rock where
the road is there
1005
00:53:17,094 --> 00:53:18,661
And there
a riding cyclist
1006
00:53:18,663 --> 00:53:20,796
That's already stop
take a photo.
1007
00:53:20,798 --> 00:53:22,264
And sammy is getting ready,
1008
00:53:22,266 --> 00:53:24,800
Or it looks like he will be like that
throwing stones at cyclists,
1009
00:53:24,802 --> 00:53:26,468
And the cyclist warned him.
1010
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:29,138
And dad yelled
sammy to come back
1011
00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:33,075
And what is sammy?
just being a boy,
1012
00:53:33,077 --> 00:53:37,846
Or if there is something for
to do with the condition too...
1013
00:53:37,848 --> 00:53:40,015
He runs the other way.
1014
00:53:40,017 --> 00:53:42,117
His father ran up the hill
after him,
1015
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:43,919
And he's gone.
1016
00:53:52,529 --> 00:53:55,264
The weather is very cold
in the crater lake
1017
00:53:55,266 --> 00:53:56,665
This time of year.
1018
00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:59,435
Maksud saya, mudah turun
di bawah titik beku di malam hari.
1019
00:53:59,437 --> 00:54:04,306
So, the time is really
from the core
1020
00:54:04,308 --> 00:54:07,610
So, starting from around
at six o'clock, Saturday night,
1021
00:54:07,612 --> 00:54:11,480
We start putting
search to the field
1022
00:54:12,716 --> 00:54:17,219
Our first night arrived
around 25 searches.
1023
00:54:17,221 --> 00:54:21,390
A combination of
from foot seekers,
1024
00:54:21,392 --> 00:54:24,393
Search for dogs < br /> and tracking team.
1025
00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:26,528
That's what bases us
this whole search on
1026
00:54:26,530 --> 00:54:30,833
We are looking for live
sammy boehlke
1027
00:54:30,835 --> 00:54:35,271
Maybe go inside
under some thick vegetation,
1028
00:54:35,273 --> 00:54:36,939
Or from a rock cliff.
1029
00:54:39,009 --> 00:54:43,779
We're really involved next
the day after Sammy is gone
1030
00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,615
I remember it happened
a difficult search
because of the weather.
1031
00:54:46,617 --> 00:54:50,252
Two feet of snow entered
The next day.
1032
00:54:50,254 --> 00:54:54,590
And that park, I think so
overwhelmed with
1033
00:54:54,592 --> 00:54:56,492
People
started logging in
1034
00:54:56,494 --> 00:54:57,893
They set up a staging area,
1035
00:54:57,895 --> 00:55:00,262
And now they have everything
from this help coming
1036
00:55:00,264 --> 00:55:01,964
To try to help and see.
1037
00:55:02,832 --> 00:55:05,834
we did limited
helicopter search
1038
00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:07,469
On Saturday morning.
1039
00:55:07,471 --> 00:55:11,040
And dear, the weather
has conspired against us.
1040
00:55:11,042 --> 00:55:14,476
And after about
six short passes
1041
00:55:14,478 --> 00:55:17,479
Above the search area,
the weather is socked in,
1042
00:55:17,481 --> 00:55:20,416
Clouds enter,
rain starts blowing.
1043
00:55:20,418 --> 00:55:23,018
And we can't
fly again that day
1044
00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:25,621
I believe the number
that comes to mind
1045
00:55:25,623 --> 00:55:27,890
Do they have 174 people
up there
1046
00:55:27,892 --> 00:55:30,059
From different searches
and rescue agencies.
1047
00:55:30,061 --> 00:55:34,330
That includes
searches and rescue units from
neighboring countries.
1048
00:55:34,332 --> 00:55:37,066
Helicopters , dog search...
1049
00:55:39,469 --> 00:55:42,171
The terms we use
are "last seen points",
1050
00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,239
And that's our reference place
1051
00:55:44,241 --> 00:55:47,076
Usually where do we start
our search
1052
00:55:47,078 --> 00:55:49,678
Well, this is the area where
1053
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,915
The last Sammy was seen
on Saturday.
1054
00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:56,085
The ridge behind me
1056
00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:04,593
That's where sammy < br /> Last seen by his father.
1057
00:56:11,101 --> 00:56:14,269
It looks like
a national park is
in a county,
1058
00:56:14,271 --> 00:56:17,473
It's really his own
place sovereign.
1059
00:56:17,475 --> 00:56:20,309
And so on,
we receive phone calls
1060
00:56:20,311 --> 00:56:22,644
There are
missing children there
1061
00:56:22,646 --> 00:56:27,683
And we are very anxious
to send search
1062
00:56:27,685 --> 00:56:30,753
We want to send
investigators
1063
00:56:30,755 --> 00:56:34,723
And parks are often used
their own staff,
1064
00:56:34,725 --> 00:56:36,859
Uh, initially.
1065
00:56:38,628 --> 00:56:41,597
They sometimes
an island for themselves
1066
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,566
That's kinda
exclusive jurisdiction
1067
00:56:47,504 --> 00:56:50,939
We are more than 400 national
parks in the United States,
1068
00:56:50,941 --> 00:56:54,410
That is something
we are very proud
1069
00:56:58,381 --> 00:57:02,885
National park services
are units inside
interior parts.
1070
00:57:02,887 --> 00:57:06,255
And inside
national park services,
1071
00:57:06,257 --> 00:57:07,823
There is a director
from the national park,
1072
00:57:07,825 --> 00:57:10,192
And the headquarters is
in washington dc
1073
00:57:10,194 --> 00:57:13,328
And then there are areas
throughout the United States p >
1074
00:57:13,330 --> 00:57:16,098
Where they are
responsibility for
1075
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,533
Certain numbers
from the park
1076
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,375
I don't remember
I want... p >
1077
00:57:26,377 --> 00:57:28,644
I want
regular briefings
1078
00:57:28,646 --> 00:57:30,512
On different things
what's happening
1079
00:57:30,514 --> 00:57:34,516
There is a significant
national crisis
1080
00:57:34,518 --> 00:57:37,352
Where interior secretary
must know
1081
00:57:37,354 --> 00:57:39,888
There are overall agencies
of 23,000 people
1082
00:57:39,890 --> 00:57:42,357
It's more involved
daily activities
1083
00:57:42,359 --> 00:57:43,859
From certain people,
1084
00:57:43,861 --> 00:57:46,528
Every particular event,
or a particular park.
1085
00:57:48,998 --> 00:57:52,334
As someone who has been
an extraordinary person
1086
00:57:52,336 --> 00:57:53,836
My whole life,
1087
00:57:53,838 --> 00:57:56,872
It was unthinkable for me
that there was no accountability
1088
00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:57,940
From our government,
1089
00:57:57,942 --> 00:57:59,708
If it's easy
to be responsible,
1090
00:57:59,710 --> 00:58:01,777
Especially in this case
days and ages of technology. P>
1091
00:58:07,517 --> 00:58:09,218
Sometimes notes
saved,
1092
00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:11,620
And sometimes
notes are not saved
1093
00:58:11,622 --> 00:58:14,656
There is no requirement for
the federal government to
1094
00:58:14,658 --> 00:58:16,658
Keep a record of people
who is missing
1095
00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:18,160
On federal land.
1096
00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:22,898
Thank you.
1097
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:24,333
in this day and age,
1098
00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:27,703
We must collect
a lot of information
as we can,
1099
00:58:27,705 --> 00:58:30,706
And put it in the database
it's open,
1100
00:58:30,708 --> 00:58:33,675
It's not guarded
by anyone
1101
00:58:33,677 --> 00:58:37,713
If we want to help find
the missing person next,
1102
00:58:37,715 --> 00:58:41,783
We can learn a lot with what
went right
in the previous search,
1103
00:58:41,785 --> 00:58:43,552
What's wrong
in the previous search. p >
1104
00:58:43,554 --> 00:58:44,953
What do they have?
done differently.
1105
00:58:44,955 --> 00:58:47,556
Good recording
from search,
1106
00:58:47,558 --> 00:58:49,291
Whether it works
or not ,
1107
00:58:49,293 --> 00:58:50,959
It needs to be in hand,
1108
00:58:50,961 --> 00:58:53,662
So that later
we go there,
1109
00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:57,432
The search leader can make
the right decision p >
1110
00:58:57,434 --> 00:59:00,002
And use resources very wisely.
1111
00:59:00,004 --> 00:59:01,937
In the work I do
with lost planes,
1112
00:59:01,939 --> 00:59:04,873
We always try to see
on list of missing planes
1113
00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:07,876
When I am a sheriff
from the klamath area,
1114
00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:11,179
I can continue
a list of missing people
1115
00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,048
in minutes.
1116
00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,984
If You have that area
You don't even know there is
missing person. P>
1117
00:59:15,986 --> 00:59:19,388
If you have
certain jurisdiction
1118
00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:20,789
It doesn't have that data,
1119
00:59:20,791 --> 00:59:25,394
That makes it very difficult
re-investigates
1120
00:59:25,396 --> 00:59:27,062
If more information comes.
1121
00:59:27,597 --> 00:59:29,831
The fact is that if...
1122
00:59:31,034 --> 00:59:33,602
Say, park authority
open about
1123
00:59:33,604 --> 00:59:36,038
How many people are missing,
1124
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,141
From national parks and
public parks
and wilderness areas,
1125
00:59:39,143 --> 00:59:43,679
So who of us is it
will push our fears
and still go there,
1126
00:59:43,681 --> 00:59:46,014
We can get out
more protected
1127
00:59:46,016 --> 00:59:47,716
That's what I think about
the authorities have to do it
1128
00:59:47,718 --> 00:59:50,018
I think they should come clean
and say, "here it is
information.
1129
00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:50,953
Now you know.
1130
00:59:50,955 --> 00:59:52,120
We don't know what happened,
1131
00:59:52,122 --> 00:59:54,122
But at least it should be
protect yourself.
1132
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,735
it's clear
a mystery that hasn't been solved
1133
01:00:06,737 --> 01:00:09,504
Um, that's one of them < br /> things that...
1134
01:00:09,506 --> 01:00:11,573
You kind of took it
behind your mind
1135
01:00:11,575 --> 01:00:13,809
Every time you go and
visit the crater lake p >
1136
01:00:13,811 --> 01:00:15,444
I mean,
it's a tourist destination.
1137
01:00:15,446 --> 01:00:17,012
This is a fun place to be.
1138
01:00:17,014 --> 01:00:19,414
But you go there and
you think
1139
01:00:19,416 --> 01:00:22,918
This is a beautiful place,
But it's not without tragedy.
1140
01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:26,722
The strongest theory?
Meanwhile, there are many...
1141
01:00:26,724 --> 01:00:31,560
Theory strongest is that
He is in that forest somehow,
1142
01:00:31,562 --> 01:00:34,296
And he might,
in my opinion,
1143
01:00:34,298 --> 01:00:35,697
Covered by snow,
1144
01:00:35,699 --> 01:00:39,801
And then, it might be
animal sacrifice later.
1145
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:44,840
I believe that when
a child is lost,
1146
01:00:44,842 --> 01:00:49,044
That you discard any resources
you have initially. P>
1147
01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:52,748
And I really want it
have see that happen
1148
01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:54,783
with sammy that night.
1149
01:01:01,357 --> 01:01:03,158
This is the end of the first month,
1150
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,528
And the search
two years deorr kunz jr.
Continues. P>
1151
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:08,997
Many believe that deorr is not
on that mountain
1152
01:01:08,999 --> 01:01:11,333
Search and save
and all city residents,
1153
01:01:11,335 --> 01:01:12,534
Everyone goes there. P>
1154
01:01:12,536 --> 01:01:13,969
Everyone goes there. P>
1155
01:01:13,971 --> 01:01:16,405
There have been a lot of people
there seeing
Many. P>
1156
01:01:16,407 --> 01:01:17,673
Many people. P>
1157
01:01:17,675 --> 01:01:19,808
Even after
the search was done,
1158
01:01:19,810 --> 01:01:21,043
Sudah ada orang.
1159
01:01:21,045 --> 01:01:23,311
I think he will do it
Has been found
if he is...
1160
01:01:23,313 --> 01:01:25,380
Isn't it?
1161
01:01:25,382 --> 01:01:29,051
Some people have mentioned it
other people who live
in the lemhi area.
1162
01:01:29,053 --> 01:01:31,319
There is a woman who ran
a restaurant there
1163
01:01:31,321 --> 01:01:34,022
Some people say it
he might have been involved p >
1164
01:01:34,024 --> 01:01:36,591
mother and father
know that the baby is dead,
1165
01:01:36,593 --> 01:01:38,326
So they say,
"please help us."
1166
01:01:38,328 --> 01:01:41,129
They pay $ 1,000 < br /> to throw away the body
1167
01:01:41,131 --> 01:01:42,564
The police have cleaned it.
1168
01:01:42,566 --> 01:01:44,800
There... I mean, there are
So many theories are out there.
1169
01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:46,201
People - people, you know, owe...
1170
01:01:46,203 --> 01:01:48,303
You know, parents do it
something for him
1171
01:01:48,305 --> 01:01:49,771
Or it's an accident.
1172
01:01:49,773 --> 01:01:51,673
They say child it's up there
to use it as a ruse
1173
01:01:51,675 --> 01:01:53,842
Saying he's gone.
1174
01:01:53,844 --> 01:01:55,544
But he's never been up there
starting with.
1175
01:01:55,546 --> 01:01:56,778
Oh, he's there.
1176
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:59,781
I've seen him try playing
on a campfire
1177
01:01:59,783 --> 01:02:01,650
He's playing with his father. P>
1178
01:02:01,652 --> 01:02:05,220
Some people say
there are sex offenders
who live in city,
1179
01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:07,522
And maybe they know this
Boys are up there,
1180
01:02:07,524 --> 01:02:10,926
So they fabricated this plan
to go there and take it.
1181
01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:14,863
We think more like
someone kidnapped him
1182
01:02:14,865 --> 01:02:16,698
They followed him back
to the door
1183
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:20,168
And caught me when
I didn't look at
and grab it.
1184
01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:23,772
I've heard everything
"big feet take deorr,"
1185
01:02:23,774 --> 01:02:25,273
For maybe a truck driver
lift him
1186
01:02:25,275 --> 01:02:28,477
Maybe he's a child
sex slave in Canada
1187
01:02:29,879 --> 01:02:32,214
Many facebook groups
have been formed
1188
01:02:32,216 --> 01:02:35,951
Anytime, whatever
updates on deorr are out,
1189
01:02:35,953 --> 01:02:39,387
They will post the link and
one hundred people will comment.
1190
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,160
there may be
a dozen different
1191
01:02:45,162 --> 01:02:47,462
Facebook pages out there
that people have started
1192
01:02:47,464 --> 01:02:51,299
And there are many that
it's positive support
for the family,
1193
01:02:51,301 --> 01:02:54,402
But there are many
it's just cursing
1194
01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:57,973
Called them murderers,
they say < br /> negligent parents
1195
01:02:57,975 --> 01:03:00,075
That should never be
have children.
1196
01:03:01,911 --> 01:03:04,746
Social media has a positive side,
1197
01:03:04,748 --> 01:03:06,782
But the downside is terrible too.
1198
01:03:06,784 --> 01:03:09,985
People jump to conclusions,
spread rumors.
1199
01:03:09,987 --> 01:03:13,922
And that only complicates
more sadness.
1200
01:03:13,924 --> 01:03:16,158
Parents have
to defend themselves
1201
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,927
At the same time as
they try to grieve,
1202
01:03:18,929 --> 01:03:22,998
And try to wrap it up
arms around the fact
that their child is missing
1203
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,333
family already
accused of using drugs,
1204
01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:28,436
And sleeping with
certain people.
1205
01:03:28,438 --> 01:03:31,973
Everything from their appearance,
for their attitude,
1206
01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:33,642
How they talk
1207
01:03:33,644 --> 01:03:36,545
the facts,
I even told them,
Stay away from social media.
1208
01:03:36,547 --> 01:03:38,580
I say, you want
broadcast media,
1209
01:03:38,582 --> 01:03:40,849
Print media to
is on your side
1210
01:03:40,851 --> 01:03:42,717
Whatever comes out,
1211
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,287
Social media
might misinterpret it
1212
01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:47,255
And say a few things
cruel or incorrect
1213
01:03:47,257 --> 01:03:48,723
But don't even pay
pay attention to them
1214
01:03:48,725 --> 01:03:52,060
And maybe people have < be fixated on this case,
1215
01:03:52,062 --> 01:03:54,095
And they crave something.
1216
01:03:54,097 --> 01:03:56,331
They want some kind of
news nugget,
1217
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:57,399
Or new information.
1218
01:03:57,401 --> 01:04:00,035
And when they don't get it,
they speculate.
1219
01:04:00,037 --> 01:04:03,104
And then it spreads,
and you can't control it.
1220
01:04:33,636 --> 01:04:35,637
every time someone
will come
1221
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:37,405
Who is part of the media,
1222
01:04:37,407 --> 01:04:40,408
They will say,
"what's empty
are they here? P>
1223
01:04:40,977 --> 01:04:42,477
Why are they here?"
1224
01:04:42,479 --> 01:04:45,513
And it annoys me
why they
don't want coverage
1225
01:04:45,515 --> 01:04:48,116
I know that they are offered
Affection for one hour.
1226
01:04:48,118 --> 01:04:50,051
Good morning America
call them,
1227
01:04:50,053 --> 01:04:51,920
And they don't want to go.
1228
01:04:51,922 --> 01:04:54,322
That can only help.
It doesn't hurt.
1229
01:04:55,358 --> 01:04:57,158
And at this point,
1230
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,129
After his face is plastered
everywhere is how
we will find it.
1231
01:05:01,131 --> 01:05:02,998
You know, every time someone
goes to walmart,
1232
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,467
Wherever they are,
or get out of their car,
1233
01:05:05,469 --> 01:05:08,303
I want to face deorr
have in their minds
1234
01:05:19,348 --> 01:05:22,484
I don't know any manual
about how you should act
1235
01:05:22,486 --> 01:05:24,386
If your child is lost.
1236
01:05:24,388 --> 01:05:27,188
You know, so, um...
1237
01:05:28,691 --> 01:05:32,060
This is very stressful
for them .
1238
01:05:32,062 --> 01:05:34,462
And then, when you
have people,
1239
01:05:35,698 --> 01:05:38,266
you know, try
make assumptions
1240
01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:41,770
and assess without
Lots of information,
1241
01:05:41,772 --> 01:05:43,505
This must be very difficult. P>
1242
01:05:48,411 --> 01:05:50,011
hi, this is Jessica
1243
01:05:50,013 --> 01:05:51,813
Leave me a message and
I'll be back to you soon.
1244
01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:56,851
I asked the supervisor why he was so
panicked at me
1245
01:05:56,853 --> 01:05:58,253
When you say it's okay.
1246
01:05:58,255 --> 01:06:00,689
He said, "I told jess and
He didn't like the idea."
1247
01:06:02,725 --> 01:06:04,759
This is the weirdest
the case I've worked
1248
01:06:04,761 --> 01:06:08,396
All others,
they begged
television coverage.
1249
01:06:08,398 --> 01:06:11,132
They requested radio coverage,
coverage newspaper
1250
01:06:11,134 --> 01:06:12,300
They begged for this.
1251
01:06:12,302 --> 01:06:13,768
That's what is so strange.
1252
01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:15,637
Why do they act like this?
1253
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:17,172
Are they
hide something?
1254
01:06:17,174 --> 01:06:19,607
That - doesn't matter.
1255
01:06:19,609 --> 01:06:21,543
It doesn't matter who thinks
you're a murderer
1256
01:06:21,545 --> 01:06:24,479
It doesn't matter who thinks
/> You do what for your child. P>
1257
01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:27,315
It's important that we need
to find your child
1258
01:06:32,555 --> 01:06:35,457
basically I was told
them in writing
1259
01:06:35,459 --> 01:06:38,159
That's because they don't do it
want to work with
1260
01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:41,062
Broadcast media
or print media
1261
01:06:41,064 --> 01:06:42,964
That I will
back off from this case
1262
01:06:42,966 --> 01:06:46,334
And I withdraw my $ 20,000
offer a prize
1263
01:06:47,136 --> 01:06:49,571
One of them
doesn't really care
1264
01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:53,074
Others say,
"thank you for giving up
to our child."
1265
01:06:53,709 --> 01:06:55,643
Brantley.
Brantley.
1266
01:06:56,245 --> 01:06:58,046
-Kemari.
-See mother p >
1267
01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:01,182
Oh!
I have that boy.
1268
01:07:04,086 --> 01:07:05,820
What did you buy mama
1269
01:07:05,822 --> 01:07:07,455
Do you
watch on youtube
1270
01:07:08,557 --> 01:07:09,958
He's not someone.
1271
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,227
He's like... Oh, look.
1272
01:07:12,229 --> 01:07:14,596
Yes?
Will you tell them, mm?
1273
01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:18,133
Anything for you.
1274
01:07:19,935 --> 01:07:22,670
Like I said... They just...
They...
1275
01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:24,439
I don't know
1276
01:07:24,441 --> 01:07:26,775
I think they overcame it.
With that it's different,
1277
01:07:26,777 --> 01:07:28,076
And maybe they have
different ideas
1278
01:07:28,078 --> 01:07:30,645
What a great idea to help?
find their child
1279
01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:36,084
- is that them?
1280
01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:39,354
That's deorr.
1281
01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:48,563
Is that
happening?
1282
01:07:53,169 --> 01:07:54,536
Dude, man I call...
1283
01:07:54,538 --> 01:07:57,205
You don't do it
anything, I know
1284
01:07:57,706 --> 01:07:58,840
You're fine.
1285
01:07:58,842 --> 01:08:01,443
- I just want to help
- You're fine.
1286
01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:02,811
She's fair
go through shit
1287
01:09:08,344 --> 01:09:10,578
I'm edna,
mother keith
1288
01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:14,983
I visited my parents
in ritter, oregon,
1289
01:09:14,985 --> 01:09:19,154
And that was Easter time,
Easter came early that year.
1290
01:09:19,156 --> 01:09:21,356
So there was snow
in over the land.
1291
01:09:21,358 --> 01:09:23,525
Snow patches
on the ground
1292
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,061
That is cattle,
cattle area
1293
01:09:27,063 --> 01:09:30,532
And my parents
is a farmer.
1294
01:09:30,534 --> 01:09:33,635
And the neighbor
is pretty much too
1295
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,241
He is a happy child,
a very happy child
1296
01:09:44,213 --> 01:09:47,715
He and his older brother
go to the warehouse
1297
01:09:47,717 --> 01:09:49,350
To see the new calf.
1298
01:09:50,786 --> 01:09:52,320
And that is lunch time.
1299
01:09:52,322 --> 01:09:55,757
So I call a boy
and more old come,
1300
01:09:55,759 --> 01:09:57,659
And no keith.
1301
01:09:59,028 --> 01:10:00,662
So I said,
"where is your sister?"
1302
01:10:00,664 --> 01:10:02,463
He said, "Oh, he went < br /> around the warehouse. "
1303
01:10:02,465 --> 01:10:05,800
So, we went looking for it,
1304
01:10:06,669 --> 01:10:08,203
And he wasn't there.
1305
01:10:10,773 --> 01:10:13,641
We can start the search
soon for him
1306
01:10:13,643 --> 01:10:16,945
It was a long time before
search and rescue was set
1307
01:10:16,947 --> 01:10:17,912
As of now,
1308
01:10:17,914 --> 01:10:23,284
So they left
in talking distance
with each other
1309
01:10:23,286 --> 01:10:26,221
So that's right
able to communicate
1310
01:10:26,223 --> 01:10:27,889
Everyone is amazing.
1311
01:10:27,891 --> 01:10:30,725
We feel there is
around 200 people there.
1312
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:34,762
And they searched for
night
1313
01:10:39,835 --> 01:10:41,369
I don't know until a long time later
1314
01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:44,072
That he had passed
this was cattle. P>
1315
01:10:44,074 --> 01:10:45,873
But they
found their footprints. P>
1316
01:10:53,282 --> 01:10:54,515
even like a flying crow,
1317
01:10:54,517 --> 01:10:56,251
His journey from his house
1318
01:10:56,253 --> 01:10:58,086
Where his trail
was found,
1319
01:10:58,088 --> 01:10:59,854
Is three miles.
1320
01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:03,691
And then, his body is found
far here
1321
01:11:04,026 --> 01:11:05,960
Five miles away.
1322
01:11:05,962 --> 01:11:07,362
Eight miles in total.
1323
01:11:08,464 --> 01:11:10,131
He is also stiff.
1324
01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:12,567
His tiny body
can't move
1325
01:11:12,569 --> 01:11:16,004
He was found bowing down
in the snow, and...
1326
01:11:16,006 --> 01:11:19,474
His tiny face was scratched
so bad when we found him .
1327
01:11:22,378 --> 01:11:25,179
It's lunch time
when he's gone.
1328
01:11:25,181 --> 01:11:28,216
And this is about
seven o'clock the next morning
1329
01:11:28,218 --> 01:11:29,684
When he was found.
1330
01:11:33,589 --> 01:11:36,057
eight miles.
That's like a flying crow.
1331
01:11:36,059 --> 01:11:39,594
It's impossible to walk
here as crows will fly.
1332
01:11:40,596 --> 01:11:43,264
In the span of
less than 24 hours,
1333
01:11:43,266 --> 01:11:45,500
You have to believe it
this two-year-old child
1334
01:11:45,502 --> 01:11:48,069
may be as much as
as twelve miles.
1335
01:11:53,576 --> 01:11:55,243
Like that...
1336
01:11:55,245 --> 01:11:58,079
His clothes were found torn, p >
1337
01:11:59,248 --> 01:12:02,517
And we thought it might be
from the fence of lights.
1338
01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,819
Either through them
or below them
1339
01:12:13,195 --> 01:12:16,364
And even with
months full moon tonight
1340
01:12:16,366 --> 01:12:19,500
I can't see anything
past this bush
1341
01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:21,769
So if I
a two-year-old child,
1342
01:12:21,771 --> 01:12:24,572
And I have to walk
through this,
or crawl through this,
1343
01:12:24,574 --> 01:12:26,040
I got to tonight's time...
1344
01:12:27,076 --> 01:12:29,277
I can't see keith
go anywhere
1345
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:30,812
I can't go anywhere.
1346
01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:35,683
How can a two-year-old child
be traveling
1347
01:12:35,685 --> 01:12:38,720
Topography
I'm traveling now...
1348
01:12:38,722 --> 01:12:44,625
Little shoes and that
temperature frozen
1349
01:12:44,627 --> 01:12:46,761
Even if he is still small
full of energy.
1350
01:12:53,302 --> 01:12:56,604
This is about the area
searchers find it.
1351
01:12:56,606 --> 01:13:00,908
His father is about < 100 yards like that.
1352
01:13:02,511 --> 01:13:04,112
And he's found here.
1353
01:13:04,813 --> 01:13:06,381
Facing down in the snow.
1354
01:13:06,383 --> 01:13:08,816
The hat and coat next to it. p >
1355
01:13:08,818 --> 01:13:11,853
Seekers find it.
Father one,
maybe 200 meters away
1357
01:13:15,190 --> 01:13:16,591
And he lives.
1358
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:31,239
For years,
On ritter area,
1359
01:13:31,241 --> 01:13:32,740
When we go visit there,
1360
01:13:32,742 --> 01:13:34,375
Someone will do it
come visit and say,
1361
01:13:34,377 --> 01:13:37,145
"oh, yeah, I remember
we searched for you
1362
01:13:37,147 --> 01:13:38,679
Fortunately
you were found. "
1363
01:13:38,681 --> 01:13:40,948
And I will say," oh, that's great
and thank you for seeing. "
1364
01:13:45,654 --> 01:13:48,356
This is the hat I'm wearing.
1366
01:13:51,628 --> 01:13:54,295
This is my little hat.
1367
01:13:54,297 --> 01:13:57,231
And here it is
one of my shoes
1368
01:13:57,233 --> 01:14:00,468
That's what I go through.
1369
01:14:00,470 --> 01:14:03,738
This is my jacket
I took me
1370
01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,706
I took it off
whatever the reason,
1371
01:14:05,708 --> 01:14:10,745
And I brought my hat
On my jacket, in my hand,
1372
01:14:10,747 --> 01:14:15,383
I was with me like me
laying eggs on the ground.
1373
01:14:15,385 --> 01:14:17,819
I have it in my hand.
1374
01:14:17,821 --> 01:14:21,088
This is my
shirt that I have
1375
01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:28,095
And then, like what you see,
in my bib overalls,
1376
01:14:28,097 --> 01:14:30,298
You can see tears
1377
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,800
At the place I caught it
on the fence,
1378
01:14:32,802 --> 01:14:34,802
Trying to pass it
a fence and so on.
1379
01:14:35,537 --> 01:14:38,239
And it rips...
1380
01:14:38,241 --> 01:14:40,508
And catch...
I got tears in the back
1381
01:14:40,510 --> 01:14:42,143
Where are the barbwires
catching it
1383
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:45,980
Tearing it
1384
01:14:46,949 --> 01:14:49,584
That is his clothes
my mother continues
1385
01:14:50,252 --> 01:14:52,220
For many years.
1386
01:14:56,725 --> 01:14:58,593
we only
never gave up hope
1387
01:14:58,595 --> 01:15:02,497
and he was found.
1388
01:15:04,033 --> 01:15:08,169
Even though you have suffered
frostbite in your hand
and feet,
1389
01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:11,506
We are very lucky that
he was found when he was.
1390
01:15:15,644 --> 01:15:17,678
We are not ever made a big problem
From him getting lost,
1395
01:15:28,590 --> 01:15:30,625
There were no nightmares
about that at all
1396
01:15:30,627 --> 01:15:34,095
I didn't remember anything at all
about that
1397
01:15:34,097 --> 01:15:36,731
They asked what happened
and I told them that I didn't know.
1398
01:15:36,733 --> 01:15:38,666
I don't know what happened
and they asked me
1399
01:15:38,668 --> 01:15:43,671
I have enough
scratches on my face
and hands. P>
1400
01:15:43,673 --> 01:15:47,341
Someone asks how is it
I got it and I told them
The cat scratched me.
1401
01:15:47,343 --> 01:15:49,644
So, I don't remember
1402
01:15:49,646 --> 01:15:52,179
From what happened to me.
1404
01:15:51,001 --> 01:16:01,188
Nothing I can
put my finger on
1405
01:16:01,190 --> 01:16:03,691
Normal
a set of conditions
in the wilderness
1406
01:16:03,693 --> 01:16:05,793
Makes sense
for any of these cases
1407
01:16:05,795 --> 01:16:08,195
That is something else.
1408
01:16:19,074 --> 01:16:20,541
very calm now
1409
01:16:20,543 --> 01:16:25,746
You get all kinds of small
the motorbike sounds come
get out of there from him,
1410
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:28,282
And he's fair
with his car
1411
01:16:28,284 --> 01:16:29,884
This is very quiet.
1412
01:16:29,886 --> 01:16:32,587
you usually
step on the hot wheel,
1413
01:16:33,121 --> 01:16:34,789
or legos, or whatever.
1414
01:16:34,791 --> 01:16:36,457
the whole house
is the same way
1415
01:16:36,459 --> 01:16:37,925
The whole house
is now very quiet
1416
01:16:37,927 --> 01:16:41,028
It's just...
Not at home. P>
1417
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:43,998
You go with it from day to day
hope you can
get your life back
1418
01:16:44,633 --> 01:16:46,767
Hope he's fine, because
1419
01:16:47,235 --> 01:16:48,603
This isn't
1420
01:16:49,538 --> 01:16:51,072
This sucks
1421
01:17:01,416 --> 01:17:03,217
little people.
1422
01:17:09,391 --> 01:17:12,793
Every day I'm happy,
because I have to spend it
with him.
1423
01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:16,130
I can go to work and
take him to work with me <
1424
01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:18,165
And still have
then with him.
1425
01:17:18,167 --> 01:17:20,301
And then, we go home
and make dinner
1426
01:17:20,303 --> 01:17:22,803
And give him a shower ,
1427
01:17:22,805 --> 01:17:24,438
And install jammies on,
1428
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,340
And watch small tv
and play,
1429
01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:29,510
And then read him a story
or sing him a song
1430
01:17:29,512 --> 01:17:30,978
To make him fall asleep,
1431
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:32,780
And give him
ten million hugs
1432
01:17:32,782 --> 01:17:35,449
Before I can
leave the room.
1433
01:17:35,451 --> 01:17:39,053
And I miss those days.
1434
01:17:41,023 --> 01:17:42,023
Lots.
1435
01:17:50,499 --> 01:17:53,367
Um, what is that?
1436
01:17:53,369 --> 01:17:54,869
p>
1437
01:17:54,871 --> 01:17:56,203
-About a month?
-Three...
1438
01:17:56,205 --> 01:17:58,406
Yeah, it's like a month.
1439
01:17:58,408 --> 01:18:00,307
three weeks to a month
after he lost
1440
01:18:00,309 --> 01:18:03,210
Is it when they brought
fbi at
1441
01:18:03,212 --> 01:18:04,679
Fbi originally called
lemhi county and said,
1442
01:18:04,681 --> 01:18:06,580
"We heard about this case.
1443
01:18:06,582 --> 01:18:08,049
Do you need
any help
1444
01:18:08,051 --> 01:18:10,851
We will help you out. "
1445
01:18:10,853 --> 01:18:14,121
And they say,
" yes, can you handle , like,
1446
01:18:14,123 --> 01:18:15,756
directly from him showing you
inside the truck.
1447
01:18:15,758 --> 01:18:17,124
This is an old battering truck.
1448
01:18:17,126 --> 01:18:19,794
There's still light,
dome lights
1449
01:18:19,796 --> 01:18:22,997
It was covered with
fbi record evidence
1450
01:18:22,999 --> 01:18:24,699
That one thing they
hadn't recorded.
1451
01:18:24,701 --> 01:18:26,400
So he let them
wipe their truck
1452
01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:30,171
We were told that a report
had to go in and out
six to eight weeks
1453
01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:32,540
And we were
an eight-week sign now,
1454
01:18:32,542 --> 01:18:34,275
With still no answer.
1455
01:18:34,277 --> 01:18:38,245
They come up with anything
some kind of theory,
or any hypothesis
1456
01:18:38,247 --> 01:18:40,448
What can you have
happens with deorr kunz
1457
01:18:40,450 --> 01:18:43,818
We want them to return
and let's say we have
reasons to believe
1458
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:46,253
Because of this and this
that he was kidnapped.
1459
01:18:46,255 --> 01:18:47,788
So we are now...
1460
01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:51,192
We see this individual.
We are looking here...
We are currently...
1461
01:18:51,194 --> 01:18:53,094
This gives us more
direction to enter p >
1462
01:18:53,096 --> 01:18:55,062
Some people, like,
They are afraid of fbi.
1463
01:18:55,064 --> 01:18:57,631
No, not us.
I have nothing to hide.
1464
01:18:57,633 --> 01:18:59,934
I don't have--
I didn't make a mistake. P>
1465
01:19:03,371 --> 01:19:06,040
Bob issac's friend stayed
in his own camp. P>
1466
01:19:06,042 --> 01:19:07,508
Bob lives in the camp. P >
1467
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:10,745
Jessica, me and a little deorr
living in the suburbs of bob.
1468
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,247
I came out of the suburbs
that morning
1469
01:19:13,249 --> 01:19:15,616
And they really were...
He and my son
1471
01:19:17,019 --> 01:19:19,820
And they only
get ready
to start breakfast
1473
01:19:23,059 --> 01:19:25,259
He and the issac will
go fishing.
1474
01:19:25,261 --> 01:19:27,161
And I said we would do it
go to leadore,
1475
01:19:27,163 --> 01:19:29,096
Get some things and
we will come back.
1476
01:19:29,098 --> 01:19:32,032
And he said, "alright,
come back here at 1:00
if you can."
1477
01:19:33,902 --> 01:19:36,537
Get our groceries and jessica
go to the restroom
1478
01:19:36,539 --> 01:19:38,639
I put a little deorr into it
truck with groceries,
1479
01:19:38,641 --> 01:19:41,041
And he came out and
we return to the top
1480
01:19:41,676 --> 01:19:43,878
This is 45 minutes.
1481
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,514
And bob and issac only
back to camp,
1482
01:19:46,516 --> 01:19:50,684
Because they are fishing
down the river correctly
where we camp
1483
01:19:50,686 --> 01:19:53,287
Dan jessica has
a little deorr out
1484
01:19:57,225 --> 01:20:00,094
and we park where
1485
01:20:01,696 --> 01:20:04,498
My grandfather is sitting
a chair here
1486
01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:08,435
And we have our double seat
right about here
1487
01:20:10,105 --> 01:20:13,607
And I hand over my grandfather
The candy we bought him.
1488
01:20:13,609 --> 01:20:16,777
Issac and my grandfather
talk about how they went
fishing
1489
01:20:16,779 --> 01:20:18,946
On the river and catching fish.
1490
01:20:18,948 --> 01:20:21,816
Just down... Until there.
1491
01:20:21,818 --> 01:20:25,619
And we decide we
will go up and
1492
01:20:25,621 --> 01:20:28,255
Look to see if there are
fish in the creek
1493
01:20:28,257 --> 01:20:30,357
After that was decided
We will go there,
1494
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:34,929
I ask my grandfather
if it's okay if we can
Let the little guy with him.
1495
01:20:34,931 --> 01:20:36,964
Dan he said, "yes, he's fine.
1496
01:20:38,433 --> 01:20:40,034
He wants sweets."
1497
01:20:40,036 --> 01:20:42,736
And he's ready
Because of taking a nap, anyway,
1498
01:20:42,738 --> 01:20:44,972
And you can know him
being very tired
1499
01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:46,874
Se we will go
he is with bob,
1500
01:20:46,876 --> 01:20:49,109
Instead of making it
walking and all that.
1501
01:20:49,111 --> 01:20:51,111
So we go up
this path here
1502
01:20:51,113 --> 01:20:53,547
Right where it is
smaller trees are
1503
01:20:53,549 --> 01:20:56,717
We stop and realize it
Little people follow us.
1505
01:20:58,754 --> 01:21:01,555
"Do you want to go together us,
or do you want to stay with
bob's grandfather? "
1506
01:21:01,557 --> 01:21:03,991
And he said," no, yes. "
1507
01:21:03,993 --> 01:21:07,228
And turned and started
walk back to my grandfather
1508
01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:11,398
So we realized he would do it
go back to camp
with my grandfather,
1509
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,502
I thought he was with
my grandfather, he alright.
1510
01:21:17,806 --> 01:21:20,207
And we walked
to the creek,
1511
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:23,143
Dan issac said, "here,
here we are
1512
01:21:23,145 --> 01:21:25,679
Being fishing
and catching fish. "
1513
01:21:25,681 --> 01:21:30,084
And he turns around and
walks back towards this road.
1514
01:21:30,086 --> 01:21:33,487
Deorr and I'm awake
by river and just a little
1515
01:21:33,489 --> 01:21:38,859
Looks at the water and
looks to see if we can
see any fish
1516
01:21:38,861 --> 01:21:41,128
I started getting me
fishing gear ready,
1517
01:21:41,130 --> 01:21:44,031
Because I think this is good
a good place for fishing. P>
1518
01:21:44,033 --> 01:21:47,134
And there is one place
that has small fish in it. P>
1519
01:21:47,136 --> 01:21:48,335
And that's right
just stuck there
1520
01:21:48,337 --> 01:21:49,937
They can't get out
from a low level.
1521
01:21:49,939 --> 01:21:52,473
And I thought, "Lord, this will happen
be neat for him to see."
1522
01:21:53,642 --> 01:21:54,875
Jessica lives in the creek,
1523
01:21:54,877 --> 01:21:56,410
And I walk to the bank
1524
01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:58,879
And go back to the bank
and go to the campsite
1525
01:21:58,881 --> 01:22:00,881
And I shout for bob
where is a little deorr
1526
01:22:00,883 --> 01:22:05,119
I can hear
voices in the camping area. P>
1527
01:22:05,121 --> 01:22:06,887
And you can actually,
where am I stand now,
1528
01:22:06,889 --> 01:22:08,923
You can really see
a table,
1529
01:22:08,925 --> 01:22:11,659
The picnic table
at our campsite
1530
01:22:11,661 --> 01:22:14,128
But I can hear deor's voice.
1531
01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:15,896
I don't understand
what he said
1532
01:22:15,898 --> 01:22:17,231
I shouted at him,
"where is my child?"
1533
01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:18,866
And he said, "I don't know. "
1534
01:22:18,868 --> 01:22:21,368
And I said,
" bob, where is my child? "
1535
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:24,104
And he said," he went up
like that to you. "
1536
01:22:24,106 --> 01:22:28,075
I saw someone walking
1537
01:22:28,077 --> 01:22:30,210
Between these trees
here.
1538
01:22:30,212 --> 01:22:32,012
Realizing that it is issac,
1539
01:22:32,014 --> 01:22:33,747
With goods- fishing item
in his hand
1540
01:22:33,749 --> 01:22:35,983
And he's walking
towards the creek.
1541
01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:37,084
And then, at that time,
1542
01:22:37,086 --> 01:22:39,053
I see back to the creek
for splits,
1543
01:22:39,055 --> 01:22:41,689
Like, maybe ten seconds.
1544
01:22:41,691 --> 01:22:43,624
And at that moment,
I heard deorr shouting.
1545
01:22:43,626 --> 01:22:45,426
And I turned around
and looked
1546
01:22:45,428 --> 01:22:46,760
Directly in front of me,
1547
01:22:46,762 --> 01:22:49,029
And he's there,
saying...
1548
01:22:49,031 --> 01:22:51,165
"The little guy has gone away.
He's not at the camp. P>
1549
01:22:51,167 --> 01:22:52,533
We can't find him."
1550
01:22:52,535 --> 01:22:54,501
We came this way,
1551
01:22:54,503 --> 01:22:56,337
Asking where my grandfather...
1552
01:22:56,339 --> 01:22:59,473
Where did he go
The last time he saw it.
1553
01:22:59,475 --> 01:23:01,775
And he saw it right next to it
the pine tree,
1554
01:23:01,777 --> 01:23:02,977
Kinda sat down.
1555
01:23:02,979 --> 01:23:05,212
He said he was good
playing with shit,
1556
01:23:05,214 --> 01:23:07,614
Or playing with his shoes.
1557
01:23:10,385 --> 01:23:13,754
I once knew he
was missing, it was like,
1558
01:23:13,756 --> 01:23:15,489
What really panicked me
1559
01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:18,292
Is it, like, I didn't
want him to sink
1560
01:23:18,294 --> 01:23:21,562
he wasn't camping,
he wasn't right in this area
1561
01:23:21,564 --> 01:23:23,230
And he starts
looking by the river,
1562
01:23:23,232 --> 01:23:25,199
And I wake up and walk.
1563
01:23:25,201 --> 01:23:28,302
We searched about
20 minutes or more. p >
1564
01:23:28,304 --> 01:23:29,937
And I didn't hear it.
I'm not...
1565
01:23:29,939 --> 01:23:31,538
We panicked,
we didn't hear it
1566
01:23:31,540 --> 01:23:35,009
So we decided we needed it
to call, call
search and rescue
1567
01:23:36,378 --> 01:23:39,747
A lot of what happened
just doesn't make sense
1568
01:23:39,749 --> 01:23:43,150
Because he must have been...
I thought he must have screamed,
1569
01:23:43,152 --> 01:23:45,152
Or trying to say, "mama."
1570
01:23:45,154 --> 01:23:47,988
When he
is missing,
1571
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:50,257
It's raining and then it's
really hot
1572
01:23:50,259 --> 01:23:53,060
So he must have taken it
his jacket is dead
1573
01:23:53,062 --> 01:23:56,030
And we found nothing.
The place was excavated.
1574
01:23:56,032 --> 01:23:59,800
The only thing I'm sure of
is Jessica that day
with me
1575
01:23:59,802 --> 01:24:01,335
He's with me
and I'm with him.
1576
01:24:01,337 --> 01:24:03,170
So it's the only thing
I'm sure of that
1577
01:24:03,172 --> 01:24:05,072
He has nothing to do with that,
I have nothing to do with that. P>
1578
01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,673
Because we are together
with each other. P>
1579
01:24:08,109 --> 01:24:10,010
And I'm looking at the river,
1580
01:24:10,012 --> 01:24:12,713
And in in the water
all the time until
1581
01:24:12,715 --> 01:24:17,451
Ray, um, Stevens gets here
with search and rescue.
1582
01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:21,655
And he asks me to come
and sit in the campsite.
1583
01:24:24,459 --> 01:24:27,061
That's as a parent
one of the hardest things
1584
01:24:27,063 --> 01:24:29,363
If you have all this
the professional who tells you
1585
01:24:29,365 --> 01:24:31,265
Stay in camp, and they have a reason for that
1586
01:24:31,267 --> 01:24:34,168
Because if they find...
If they find my child,
1587
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:36,437
Lalu mereka harus pergi
mencari saya.
1588
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:37,504
And...
1589
01:24:37,506 --> 01:24:39,873
Or they don't want
us to react, you know,
1590
01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:42,309
And go after someone
what we thought p >
1591
01:24:42,311 --> 01:24:43,677
It has something to do with it.
1592
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,312
When your child is gone,
1593
01:24:45,314 --> 01:24:48,082
You are number one suspect
1594
01:24:48,084 --> 01:24:49,516
This is sad, but it's true.
1595
01:24:51,352 --> 01:24:54,188
You have a grieving parent
,
1596
01:24:54,190 --> 01:24:55,756
And you know,
you have passed
1597
01:24:55,758 --> 01:24:58,725
It's really the most alive hell < br /> Parents can think about it.
1598
01:24:58,727 --> 01:25:01,428
And you connect
to the machine and...
1599
01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:03,097
The fact is...
1600
01:25:03,099 --> 01:25:05,632
Difficult. < br /> No problem,
1601
01:25:05,634 --> 01:25:07,468
But they are called...
1602
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:09,736
Something passed
1603
01:25:10,872 --> 01:25:12,573
Passed unconvincingly
1604
01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:15,909
You are afraid to die,
You are upset, you...
1605
01:25:15,911 --> 01:25:17,444
Afraid of your child,
1606
01:25:17,446 --> 01:25:19,680
You are afraid of your family.
You...
1607
01:25:19,682 --> 01:25:21,648
Your mind comes in
a million different directions.
1608
01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:23,817
-And no one has ever...
-Nothing makes sense.
1609
01:25:23,819 --> 01:25:26,687
But You don't get the answer
out of one direction
you will enter
1610
01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:29,123
So, you are connected
to the machine like that,
1611
01:25:29,125 --> 01:25:31,959
And everyone think,
"Link them to the polygraph."
continue.
1612
01:25:31,961 --> 01:25:33,327
Go ahead.
I have nothing to hide.
1613
01:25:33,329 --> 01:25:36,597
But know it's actually
not very useful
1614
01:25:40,768 --> 01:25:43,670
well, we still have
missing children
1615
01:25:46,407 --> 01:25:48,408
You know, I believe
he's still outside there
1616
01:25:48,410 --> 01:25:50,477
We haven't found it yet.
1617
01:25:54,048 --> 01:25:56,383
You know, everyone
wants an answer
1618
01:25:57,418 --> 01:25:59,887
Hopefully one day we can
come with one
1619
01:26:07,929 --> 01:26:09,396
working on a documentary
1620
01:26:09,398 --> 01:26:11,965
About a child
missing
on leadore
1621
01:26:13,969 --> 01:26:15,169
Do you know about this case?
1622
01:26:29,284 --> 01:26:32,085
Everything I say,
and not care what I do,
1623
01:26:32,087 --> 01:26:34,588
You are dammed if you do it,
dammed if not
1624
01:26:34,590 --> 01:26:36,390
I don't want...
1625
01:26:36,392 --> 01:26:38,859
I want media < br /> to be my child,
1626
01:26:38,861 --> 01:26:40,394
Not to me, not to Jessica.
1627
01:26:40,396 --> 01:26:41,728
Because it's not
please find him
1628
01:26:41,730 --> 01:26:44,731
Everything I will say
will be twisted.
1629
01:26:44,733 --> 01:26:45,966
Yes, we really are...
1630
01:26:45,968 --> 01:26:48,569
All the reasons why we didn't do it
There have been many news,
1631
01:26:48,571 --> 01:26:50,871
And doing this is because
1632
01:26:50,873 --> 01:26:53,473
We're really out there. P>
1633
01:26:53,475 --> 01:26:57,010
Like, I don't even know
how many times we...
1634
01:26:07,012 --> 01:26:58,478
How many hours,
how many days,
1635
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:01,448
How many weekends,
how much money,
1636
01:27:01,450 --> 01:27:04,751
Our money that we have spent
just going up there
1637
01:27:04,753 --> 01:27:09,323
But all these people
say their rumors,
1638
01:27:09,325 --> 01:27:11,725
And say that , You know,
something's wrong,
1639
01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:13,560
Because we're not on the news
and this and this and this. P>
1640
01:27:13,562 --> 01:27:16,196
No, we're doing something
for our child
1641
01:27:16,198 --> 01:27:19,866
You're right.
I don't want to
spend all this time
public front every day
1642
01:27:19,868 --> 01:27:21,902
And pet arrogance
of all people
1643
01:27:21,904 --> 01:27:23,403
Let them know that
I did nothing.
1644
01:27:23,405 --> 01:27:24,838
Because I know I
did nothing
1645
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,206
I know no
do anything. P>
1646
01:27:26,208 --> 01:27:27,975
I have one job
and I still have that job. P>
1647
01:27:27,977 --> 01:27:30,010
Find the little boy. P>
1648
01:27:30,012 --> 01:27:33,580
He knows his name
deorr jay kunz
1649
01:27:33,582 --> 01:27:37,618
And he knows his surname
is jessica mitchell
1650
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:40,354
I only pray if someone
does see it,
1651
01:27:40,356 --> 01:27:42,789
You know, that they ask,
"what's your name?"
1652
01:27:42,791 --> 01:27:45,826
Because I believe him < br /> can still tell you
1653
01:27:49,397 --> 01:27:51,098
when individuals
not found
1654
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:52,833
On search and rescue,
1655
01:27:52,835 --> 01:27:55,235
I can tell you that
1656
01:27:55,237 --> 01:27:57,471
That's something you
think about regularly
1657
01:28:02,210 --> 01:28:04,311
You are back in your mind.
1658
01:28:06,247 --> 01:28:08,515
There are times when you go out
and look at yourself
1659
01:28:12,387 --> 01:28:16,790
And some of those cases
will haunt you forever
1660
01:28:34,742 --> 01:28:38,712
Throughout my tenure
as a sheriff,
1661
01:28:38,714 --> 01:28:40,580
There's nothing
more important
1662
01:28:40,582 --> 01:28:42,449
Instead of keeping
open communication
1663
01:28:42,451 --> 01:28:44,184
With family.
1664
01:28:44,186 --> 01:28:47,087
There is only one case in
their minds are still there
1665
01:28:48,222 --> 01:28:50,223
And that makes it
very important
1666
01:28:50,225 --> 01:28:53,627
To make sure they feel
that you haven't had it
forget that
1667
01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:56,029
It's still there
look at it
1668
01:29:05,406 --> 01:29:07,307
I don't come here
that's often.
1669
01:29:07,309 --> 01:29:09,476
I feel guilty, because
I feel like,
1670
01:29:09,478 --> 01:29:12,512
You know, what if my child?
Got here at that time, You know,
1671
01:29:12,514 --> 01:29:14,915
I don't know what happened,
where is he
1672
01:29:14,917 --> 01:29:17,951
I feel guilty not coming
here at the same time
1673
01:29:17,953 --> 01:29:20,654
That hurts too.
1674
01:29:26,327 --> 01:29:29,896
That's difficult
understand that
that's all
1675
01:29:29,898 --> 01:29:33,633
I go down the mountain
and I'll go home
without
1676
01:29:34,135 --> 01:29:36,603
That's the hardest thing
1677
01:29:37,538 --> 01:29:39,072
I think I've done it
in my life,
1678
01:29:39,074 --> 01:29:41,942
Lower this mountain.
1679
01:29:41,944 --> 01:29:45,078
Jejak selatan yang besar,
disini.
Aku belum pernah bangun
di sini dengan salju di jalan setapak.
1680
01:29:53,454 --> 01:29:56,256
When you come here
and you see its beauty
1681
01:29:56,258 --> 01:29:58,158
And you think,
1682
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,327
"Is my son losing
His life is here?"
1683
01:30:00,329 --> 01:30:02,062
I think to myself,
1684
01:30:02,064 --> 01:30:04,998
"Wow, jaryd, you must have chosen it
a beautiful place to hang out."
1685
01:30:19,848 --> 01:30:21,748
I don't understand
1686
01:30:22,316 --> 01:30:24,117
An animal gets...
1687
01:30:24,552 --> 01:30:26,653
It hurts too much. P>
1688
01:30:35,363 --> 01:30:39,466
I mean, I visualized
many times...
1689
01:30:40,435 --> 01:30:42,536
I visualized it
walk down the trail
1690
01:30:42,538 --> 01:30:45,472
And there is a stupid cat
jumping on...
1691
01:30:50,411 --> 01:30:51,978
I visualize it
often.
1692
01:30:51,980 --> 01:30:54,314
But at that time same,
I also never believed it.
1693
01:30:54,316 --> 01:30:55,849
But I still visualize it,
1694
01:30:55,851 --> 01:30:59,186
Because it was something
it was constantly
thrown at me
1695
01:31:10,431 --> 01:31:13,433
I can also imagine it
it haunts them
1696
01:31:13,435 --> 01:31:15,302
For the rest of their lives.
1697
01:31:15,304 --> 01:31:17,137
It's just a strange situation,
1698
01:31:17,139 --> 01:31:18,939
And the fact that they will do it
maybe never
1699
01:31:18,941 --> 01:31:20,841
Have an answer
what really happened.
1700
01:31:21,976 --> 01:31:24,444
I think
natural tendency
1701
01:31:24,446 --> 01:31:26,546
For all parents
and all relatives
1702
01:31:26,548 --> 01:31:29,282
Do they want closure.
1703
01:31:29,284 --> 01:31:31,852
This is unknown what
happened to these people
1704
01:31:31,854 --> 01:31:35,822
Dan it's far beyond
only children
1705
01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:40,627
We are in 1600 cases,
and every month,
1706
01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:42,929
There is a new case
coming on my desk
1707
01:31:42,931 --> 01:31:45,198
That suits him
what we have talked about
1708
01:31:49,737 --> 01:31:52,839
won't be there
be one particular person
1709
01:31:52,841 --> 01:31:55,609
That can explain it
many of these phenomena
that happened
1710
01:31:55,611 --> 01:31:56,977
We talked about very big
,
1711
01:31:56,979 --> 01:32:00,113
Even collectively around the world
information here
1712
01:32:00,115 --> 01:32:03,316
Of course the authorities,
national park authorities,
1713
01:32:03,318 --> 01:32:04,985
law enforcement authorities...
1714
01:32:04,987 --> 01:32:08,588
They often have it
finger stepped on
1715
01:32:08,590 --> 01:32:10,090
Knowledge we need.
1716
01:32:10,092 --> 01:32:12,993
But whether we can or not
get from them
is another story
1717
01:32:12,995 --> 01:32:14,594
If you see
some of these cases,
1718
01:32:14,596 --> 01:32:15,929
You should consider
1719
01:32:15,931 --> 01:32:19,499
Possible with it
we are not very comfortable
1720
01:32:19,501 --> 01:32:21,034
You know,
This is a rational society.
1721
01:32:21,036 --> 01:32:24,070
We are not comfortable
thinking about anything else
Can be out there. p >
1723
01:32:27,175 --> 01:32:30,410
You have to think further
the limit of what is normal
1724
01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:32,679
What is normal
an explanation for this
1725
01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:41,688
I think
the one that most impressive
1726
01:32:41,690 --> 01:32:44,491
is search in southern cities.
1727
01:32:44,493 --> 01:32:47,027
That's for a little toddler
1728
01:32:47,029 --> 01:32:48,328
That has passed.
1729
01:32:48,330 --> 01:32:50,964
And this...
I forgot, that's right
January February.
1730
01:32:50,966 --> 01:32:55,802
And we can't get it
instructions on little toddlers
1733
01:33:02,678 --> 01:33:05,612
Anyway, we...
To make a short log story,
1734
01:33:05,614 --> 01:33:07,614
Come through some willow tree,
1735
01:33:07,616 --> 01:33:10,784
And it's all foggy,
and the dogs warn.
1736
01:33:10,786 --> 01:33:14,354
But we can't come
for any conclusions
1737
01:33:14,356 --> 01:33:16,556
And suddenly,
1738
01:33:16,558 --> 01:33:19,359
My dog turned around
and let it go
1739
01:33:19,361 --> 01:33:23,330
Lol was really surprised,
you know.
1740
01:33:23,332 --> 01:33:24,731
That's scary. P>
1741
01:33:24,733 --> 01:33:27,734
And we turned
and here it is
this little toddler,
1742
01:33:27,736 --> 01:33:30,036
Walking out of the fog,
1743
01:33:30,038 --> 01:33:34,107
With just absolute
no clothes at all
1744
01:33:34,109 --> 01:33:36,242
And that scares us.
1745
01:33:36,244 --> 01:33:38,845
I mean, the other handler and I
both went "whoa!"
1746
01:33:38,847 --> 01:33:40,580
You know,
just surprised us too
1747
01:33:40,582 --> 01:33:44,918
Just like little things < br /> appears out of nowhere
out of the fog
1748
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,655
We suspect because it's fair
the way...
Dirty and everything,
1749
01:33:48,657 --> 01:33:52,359
Maybe that he
has been with animals
1750
01:33:52,361 --> 01:33:54,761
Has curled up
with coyote, or...
1751
01:33:54,763 --> 01:33:57,030
We don't know for sure.
And we will never know
1752
01:34:01,102 --> 01:34:02,702
Most likely
1753
01:34:02,704 --> 01:34:05,238
The most disturbing thing is.
1754
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,808
It's like this
As long as humans are here.
1755
01:34:09,777 --> 01:34:11,878
Sometimes we can
see the remnants
1757
01:34:27,762 --> 01:34:29,863
He has a monster truck
1758
01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:32,132
And semifinals. P>
1759
01:34:36,037 --> 01:34:38,738
I think the boots he
wear like six,
1760
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:40,674
or five and one part.
1761
01:34:42,276 --> 01:34:44,144
But every time he uses this,
1762
01:34:44,146 --> 01:34:46,846
He said he was super fast
and he would run everywhere.
1763
01:34:48,716 --> 01:34:50,350
We deserve to know
what happened.
1764
01:34:50,352 --> 01:34:54,187
But the little boy at least
deserve to go home
or have closure
1765
01:34:54,189 --> 01:34:56,790
At least I owe a lot
to my son,
1766
01:34:56,792 --> 01:34:59,959
Most don't give him
life again, or closure.
1767
01:35:53,748 --> 01:35:56,916
™ ™ will you walk
1768
01:35:56,918 --> 01:36:00,787
™ ª thousand miles
1769
01:36:01,722 --> 01:36:05,492
â ™ ª along the cliff
1770
01:36:05,494 --> 01:36:09,295
â ™ ª cliffs made of shells
1771
01:36:10,731 --> 01:36:13,833
â ™ ª will you leave
1772
01:36:13,835 --> 01:36:17,837
â ™ ª your father
1773
01:36:19,306 --> 01:36:25,512
â ™ ª together, along, together
along the way â ™ ª
1774
01:36:27,681 --> 01:36:30,950
Because there is a path
1775
01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:35,822
â ™ ª leads through the mountains
1776
01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:39,559
â ™ ª and it will be cut
1777
01:36:39,561 --> 01:36:44,130
™ ª cut your house
1778
01:36:44,899 --> 01:36:48,601
â ™ ª and there is a lake
1779
01:36:48,603 --> 01:36:53,173
â ™ ª carved by glaciers
1780
01:36:54,408 --> 01:37:00,079
™ ª moves through rocks
1781
01:37:01,048 --> 01:37:04,484
â ™ ª moves through
1782
01:37:36,317 --> 01:37:39,586
â ™ ª hey, you