0 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:20,000 1 00:01:42,569 --> 00:01:43,802 uh huh. 2 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:12,231 the news on idaho fell a little slow 3 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:14,700 Not a lot of big things happened here 5 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:24,676 If this is the case, The biggest story of my career, 6 00:02:25,111 --> 00:02:26,278 Happens. 7 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:36,288 it just makes no sense 8 00:02:36,290 --> 00:02:38,257 To not find anything 9 00:02:38,259 --> 00:02:41,660 Footprints, pieces of meat, pieces of clothing 10 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:49,568 oh, this - it's annoying 11 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:53,105 You know, I know, you know, my member search and rescue unit 12 00:02:53,107 --> 00:02:54,873 That doesn't sleep too well. 13 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:17,429 This is a small town on idaho called leadore 14 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,369 This is far away. Your cellphone will enter and exit 15 00:03:25,939 --> 00:03:27,639 You are on gravel road at first, 16 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:29,541 But then it turns out very rocky. 17 00:03:29,543 --> 00:03:32,511 Dan ketika saya mengatakan berbatu, Maksudku batu-batu besar. 18 00:03:34,747 --> 00:03:36,982 You need to drive Maybe five miles per hour 19 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:38,350 And it's safe 20 00:03:38,352 --> 00:03:40,686 And it's really rocky. It takes a long time 21 00:03:40,688 --> 00:03:44,289 For short trips from leadore city 22 00:03:44,291 --> 00:03:46,458 To camp. 23 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:49,828 after you go sidewalks, I think that 24 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:55,367 A little more than seven miles quite rough road 25 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:59,404 Once you reach the campsite to where they are, 26 00:03:59,406 --> 00:04:01,740 Timber tributary camps, 27 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:03,709 It's just deadlocked. 28 00:04:09,482 --> 00:04:11,817 And you're out and there's a campsite, 29 00:04:11,819 --> 00:04:14,353 There's a table, there's a fire pit 30 00:04:14,355 --> 00:04:15,887 Ten meters away, 31 00:04:15,889 --> 00:04:18,757 There is a steep hill going to the creek 32 00:04:22,061 --> 00:04:24,563 it's a combination of 33 00:04:24,565 --> 00:04:27,933 Willowy, berawa, riverbed, 34 00:04:29,202 --> 00:04:31,603 The steep hillside, some of them... 35 00:04:32,672 --> 00:04:34,106 Sage brush, some of them wood. 36 00:04:34,108 --> 00:04:35,407 Lots of stones. 37 00:04:37,543 --> 00:04:39,311 they have arrived at the campsite 38 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:43,315 Late at night July 9, Thursday evening. 39 00:04:43,317 --> 00:04:45,484 It's too late, it's dark 40 00:04:45,486 --> 00:04:47,719 They say that go to bed immediately. 41 00:04:49,222 --> 00:04:52,424 From the first day, law enforcement told us 42 00:04:52,426 --> 00:04:55,394 That's everyone at camp 43 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:57,396 Considered as a person interest 44 00:04:57,398 --> 00:04:59,531 Only because they are only there 45 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,035 Deorr sr and jessica mitchell, 46 00:05:03,037 --> 00:05:04,670 Young deorr parents, 47 00:05:04,672 --> 00:05:07,205 Grandfather, grandfather Jessica, 48 00:05:07,207 --> 00:05:09,574 And another man named isaac reinwand, 49 00:05:09,576 --> 00:05:11,743 Who is grandfather's friend 50 00:05:11,745 --> 00:05:13,612 Who seems to be last minute 51 00:05:13,614 --> 00:05:15,714 Decide to go camping with them. 52 00:05:17,617 --> 00:05:19,651 It was dark they got there 53 00:05:19,653 --> 00:05:21,386 Deorr said it parked the truck 54 00:05:21,388 --> 00:05:24,256 Parked the trailer on the outskirts of the city. 55 00:05:24,258 --> 00:05:26,191 Issac installed his tent, 56 00:05:26,193 --> 00:05:28,560 They have a grandfather settle down in the camp trailer, 57 00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:30,162 They sleep behind from the outskirts of the city. 58 00:05:30,164 --> 00:05:32,264 Wake up the next morning, and then he realizes 59 00:05:32,266 --> 00:05:34,766 How is the countryside. 60 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:37,736 You know, that's right basically at the end of the way. 61 00:05:37,738 --> 00:05:39,438 Think that's a pretty place safe 62 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,807 You know? Cliff rather All the way around, 63 00:05:41,809 --> 00:05:44,309 Not too for him to get out. 64 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:45,644 You know? 65 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:50,716 The next morning, July 10, Friday, 66 00:05:50,718 --> 00:05:51,917 They wake up, 67 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:54,986 They hang around at the campsite 68 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:57,756 they have gone to leadore, to the store, 69 00:05:57,758 --> 00:06:00,459 Because jessica is needed feminine products, 70 00:06:00,461 --> 00:06:02,327 They go in there and they buy, 71 00:06:02,329 --> 00:06:03,695 You know, that's all 72 00:06:03,697 --> 00:06:05,330 And then some candy and items for the little one. 73 00:06:05,332 --> 00:06:06,998 jessica goes to the bathroom, 74 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,533 When the boy is loaded. 75 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:11,036 And they go back to campsite. 76 00:06:13,906 --> 00:06:15,841 So they got to the camp, 77 00:06:15,843 --> 00:06:19,578 Isaac's and bob's grandfather 78 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:21,146 He said, "we have some fish." 79 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:22,981 And he shows his fish for deorr, 80 00:06:22,983 --> 00:06:26,585 Dan deorr is said to say, "I don't believe you were caught the fish on the river. 81 00:06:26,587 --> 00:06:28,854 I don't believe it. Show me where you have them. 82 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:33,658 Become jessica and deorr with this issac 83 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:36,728 Go to the creek, < br /> which may be 100 feet away. 84 00:06:36,730 --> 00:06:38,697 they say for a little deorr, 85 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:41,333 "Do you want to come? with us?" 86 00:06:41,335 --> 00:06:44,836 According to law enforcement, a little deorr followed them for one point, 87 00:06:44,838 --> 00:06:48,340 But then turn around and come back 88 00:06:48,342 --> 00:06:52,444 The parents continue with the grandfather's assumption watching deorr 89 00:06:53,179 --> 00:06:54,613 And jessica tells me, 90 00:06:54,615 --> 00:06:56,515 He keeps looking back from behind his shoulder 91 00:06:56,517 --> 00:06:59,518 To make sure the little boy doesn't follow them 92 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,920 And when he's confident he doesn't follow, 93 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:03,922 They go to those two places along the creek 94 00:07:03,924 --> 00:07:07,159 Where should they catch fish 95 00:07:07,161 --> 00:07:10,595 they go get there maybe 10-15 minutes, 96 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:12,264 And then they see a little fish. 97 00:07:12,266 --> 00:07:15,300 And they will go back to the camp and get a man small, 98 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:16,701 Because he likes fish. 99 00:07:16,703 --> 00:07:19,404 He loves bugs... Things like that. 100 00:07:19,406 --> 00:07:21,573 And so, they go back there 101 00:07:21,575 --> 00:07:24,176 And deorr looks on bob and said, 102 00:07:24,178 --> 00:07:25,610 "where is there a small deorr?" 103 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:27,879 And bob said, "He is here." 104 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:31,049 "in where is there a little deorr? " and grandfather said, " He was there. " 105 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:32,884 Of course he wasn't there. 106 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:35,654 Grandpa claimed not entered the trailer. 107 00:07:35,656 --> 00:07:37,389 But I'm sure he did it. 108 00:07:37,391 --> 00:07:41,159 The police said that the reinwand issac is currently down in a small river, fishing. 109 00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:42,494 They said they were panicking. 110 00:07:42,496 --> 00:07:44,830 They did a search straight camp 111 00:07:44,832 --> 00:07:46,598 They looked everywhere they could. 112 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,033 madness starts Everyone... 113 00:07:48,035 --> 00:07:49,968 I mean, they start shouting, they start looking. 114 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:52,137 They searched 15 to 20 minutes 115 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:53,305 There were no signs of them. 116 00:07:53,307 --> 00:07:56,041 Then they decided better to call 911 117 00:07:56,043 --> 00:07:58,777 This is a remote area, You can't get it cell phone service 118 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:01,646 Jessica said miraculously she got a signal. 119 00:08:01,648 --> 00:08:04,349 um, my two-year-old son... 120 00:08:04,351 --> 00:08:06,184 Um, we can't find it. 121 00:08:06,186 --> 00:08:07,586 Deorr jumped onto the truck, 122 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:09,821 Go to the road to see if he can get better service 123 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,023 Both are calling 124 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:13,158 With 911 at the same time. 125 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,194 You know, "my child is missing Can you help us?" 126 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:19,531 And that's it chaos from there 127 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:38,917 Good night everyone. 128 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,219 You are in the right place, at the right time. 129 00:08:41,221 --> 00:08:43,655 This is the beach for my expenses. 130 00:08:43,657 --> 00:08:45,957 Tonight, we plunge once more, 131 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:49,427 In the end paranormal pools 132 00:08:49,429 --> 00:08:53,999 Hundreds of people vanished from our national park and forest. 133 00:08:54,001 --> 00:08:57,836 Some right under the nose parents or family members, 134 00:08:57,838 --> 00:09:01,773 Under very unusual , but very similar circumstances. 135 00:09:05,811 --> 00:09:08,046 Dave paulides, welcome back to the program 136 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:09,681 Thank you for having me, george 137 00:09:09,683 --> 00:09:11,716 okay, dave, I want to jump into this. 138 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,486 Deorr kunz, two years. 139 00:09:14,488 --> 00:09:15,654 I mean, you're a cop. 140 00:09:15,656 --> 00:09:17,289 If you become investigate this case, 141 00:09:17,291 --> 00:09:20,959 Kidnapping is one of the few events that might occur, right? 142 00:09:20,961 --> 00:09:22,861 I might will say yes. 143 00:09:22,863 --> 00:09:24,629 And the reason, 144 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:26,798 Is that the family? at a campsite, 145 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,233 Far into the mountains. 146 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:32,103 There is something very rocky, rough roads enter, 147 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:34,039 And the same path comes out. 148 00:09:34,041 --> 00:09:36,241 If someone gets pushed into that area, 149 00:09:36,243 --> 00:09:38,109 You will think that family definitely hear it 150 00:09:38,111 --> 00:09:40,045 And if they want to walk to the camp, 151 00:09:40,047 --> 00:09:42,314 They will definitely do it it has been seen 152 00:09:42,316 --> 00:09:45,216 it's like,
It's like in many things from other cases 153 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:47,085 It's like he's picked out of the sky 154 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:49,521 It's like just been snatched away out of the sky 155 00:09:49,523 --> 00:09:51,189 the case very reminiscent of 156 00:09:51,191 --> 00:09:53,124 Of the cases that occurred decades before 157 00:09:53,126 --> 00:09:55,760 Right outside the estes park, colorado 158 00:10:47,713 --> 00:10:50,215 St. Malo is... Pure for Catholicism, 159 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:53,385 This is one of the most visited placed in the estes valley. 160 00:10:54,453 --> 00:10:57,022 Up on the hill You have the statue of Christ. 161 00:10:57,857 --> 00:10:59,424 Then right below that, 162 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:01,326 What is st. Catherine's chapel 163 00:11:04,964 --> 00:11:06,798 The story of st. Malo really beautiful 164 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,569 This back to a man named father Joseph Pascetti, 165 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:14,039 Who is the Catholic priest. 166 00:11:14,473 --> 00:11:17,475 One day, in 1916, 167 00:11:17,477 --> 00:11:19,778 He came to the valley of Tahosa 168 00:11:19,780 --> 00:11:22,814 And he and two or three others are camping 169 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:25,016 On the mountain slopes of meeker, 170 00:11:25,018 --> 00:11:28,219 When they see a meteor on sky 171 00:11:28,221 --> 00:11:30,422 They rise up, 172 00:11:30,424 --> 00:11:34,526 Walk towards the meteor hoping they can find where it goes down, 173 00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:36,294 And finally stands up on stone 174 00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:39,297 Where st. Catherine Chapel is located. 175 00:11:39,299 --> 00:11:42,634 And pascetti's father said this will be a good place for boys camp, 176 00:11:42,636 --> 00:11:44,769 And the rest is history. 177 00:11:45,504 --> 00:11:47,939 I am an interpreter key here, 178 00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:51,776 at st. Catherine siena> s chapel on stone. 179 00:11:53,212 --> 00:11:55,080 It was built in 1935 180 00:11:55,082 --> 00:11:58,783 As a chapel for camp kids for years 181 00:11:58,785 --> 00:12:00,785 Many kids camp come here 182 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:06,558 And 1973, I came here and became camp counselor 183 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,260 at camp st. Malo, and love the outdoors. 184 00:12:10,329 --> 00:12:13,231 Every week, children will continue to rise. 185 00:12:14,233 --> 00:12:17,268 Something's easy, moderate and hard rise. 186 00:12:17,270 --> 00:12:19,704 And we will have a campfire and night stay, 187 00:12:19,706 --> 00:12:22,373 Where do we do theatrics and singing songs and... 188 00:12:22,375 --> 00:12:24,442 Friendship is extraordinary. 189 00:12:34,019 --> 00:12:36,287 This is August, This is a warm summer month. 190 00:12:37,523 --> 00:12:39,991 Bobby bobby is ten years old. 191 00:12:39,993 --> 00:12:42,761 He's partially deaf, wear hearing aids 192 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,063 And he likes fish. 193 00:12:46,132 --> 00:12:48,533 Well, on August 15, around 6:00 pM 194 00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:51,536 Bobby fishing in the small river behind the retreat, 195 00:12:51,538 --> 00:12:55,240 When becoming a counselor Approaching him and telling him it was dinner time 196 00:12:55,242 --> 00:12:57,075 Bobby admitted counselor 197 00:12:57,077 --> 00:12:59,778 And start following it going down to retreat 198 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,981 As counselor walking back, 199 00:13:02,983 --> 00:13:04,883 He turns around behind him to see, 200 00:13:05,351 --> 00:13:06,985 And Bobby is gone. 201 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,427 And that's when the search starts 202 00:13:17,363 --> 00:13:19,564 St. Malo retreats and summer camps 203 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:23,635 Tepat di perbatasan taman nasional gunung berbatu. 204 00:13:23,637 --> 00:13:27,071 Within four days there 400 searches from national park services, 205 00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:30,008 Local sheriffs, volunteers and sar experts. 206 00:13:30,010 --> 00:13:32,043 Officials difficult to understand 207 00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:33,711 How can Bobby get lost 208 00:13:33,713 --> 00:13:36,848 Because it goes straight down on a very clear path to retreat 209 00:13:37,883 --> 00:13:39,217 During height from the search, 210 00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,886 Civil air patrols went down 5,000 leaflets 211 00:13:41,888 --> 00:13:46,558 The one who told Bobby was His parents loved him and they needed it . 212 00:13:55,234 --> 00:13:58,536 On August 25, a formal search was stopped 213 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:00,972 After nine days of effort. 214 00:14:07,313 --> 00:14:08,913 Now, there three counselors 215 00:14:08,915 --> 00:14:11,182 It's looking for bobby that all the time, 216 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,985 And the next year they come back. 217 00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:16,254 And one day, they walk on the side of the mountain meeker, 218 00:14:16,256 --> 00:14:17,856 Right through rock fields, 219 00:14:17,858 --> 00:14:20,325 About 2,000 feet from retreats, 220 00:14:20,327 --> 00:14:22,093 And looking at hearing aids, 221 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:24,229 And pieces of clothing. 222 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:28,499 They found the rest of bobby bizup 223 00:14:37,943 --> 00:14:39,844 And they found it on the cliff, 224 00:14:39,846 --> 00:14:41,913 Get to the face from meeker mount, 225 00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:43,748 What's here, 226 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,850 Along the creek. 227 00:14:45,852 --> 00:14:48,753 He is in the ravine that they have searched for 228 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:50,121 At least three times the previous year 229 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:57,395 don't get me wrong, bobby can't be lost 230 00:14:57,397 --> 00:14:59,731 Uphill, the slacker is tiring 231 00:14:59,733 --> 00:15:01,466 And dangerous hiking places 232 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:05,436 Going down to retreats is dinner and easy hikes. 233 00:15:05,438 --> 00:15:08,072 You mentioned it Bobby is deaf 234 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,540 When you see in large image 235 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:11,643 In the number of cases that you have investigated, 238 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:22,987 It looks like an abnormal number from these people 239 00:15:22,989 --> 00:15:25,623 Disappeared with some kind physical disorders, 240 00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:28,026 Or genetic deficiencies. 241 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:34,766 So the case of Bobby happened August 15, 1958. 243 00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:39,570 But even today it happened as we talked about. 244 00:15:46,011 --> 00:15:48,880 This third night an idaho falls family 245 00:15:48,882 --> 00:15:50,782 Is spending without their child 246 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:52,884 More than 10,000 working hours have been completed 247 00:15:52,886 --> 00:15:54,786 Ke try to find a missing toddler 251 00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:04,562 it's gone it's got a lot scratching their heads 252 00:16:04,564 --> 00:16:06,164 Ten miles west of tin, 253 00:16:06,166 --> 00:16:08,299 This camp is the last place 254 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:11,235 Some have seen a two-year-old child deorr kunz jr 255 00:16:11,904 --> 00:16:13,972 a child of that age, 256 00:16:13,974 --> 00:16:17,809 75% of them are found inside four tenths of a mile 257 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:19,844 From the place that was last seen. 258 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:23,514 I mean, you see the field and it's very rough, 259 00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:26,718 But they can go further than you think will make sense. 260 00:16:30,956 --> 00:16:32,824 I sent a deputy there, 261 00:16:32,826 --> 00:16:35,026 Active search and rescue 262 00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:37,228 sheriff within a few hours 263 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,496 He has several searchers 264 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:40,431 Who is looking for for this child 265 00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:42,767 Find him 266 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:45,303 We use dogs 267 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:48,072 For start with some land seekers 268 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:50,141 To start with, uh... 269 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,844 Helicopters enter 270 00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:58,549 I mean, the flare that is is forward looking for infrared for the night 271 00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,184 This is all done by these people. 272 00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:02,720 This type of item, search and rescue 273 00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,991 I want to spread everyone out in one long chain. 274 00:17:06,993 --> 00:17:08,292 As broad as we can get. 275 00:17:08,294 --> 00:17:10,395 I mean, from the top of the hill to the top of the hill , 276 00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:12,330 We will walk the main high road. 277 00:17:12,332 --> 00:17:14,732 I want to cover everything small corners and slits, 278 00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:16,734 Close each log... 279 00:17:16,736 --> 00:17:20,138 Whatever it is looks to turn around, try to see. 280 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:23,641 I am 90 to 100 miles per hour walking around people, 281 00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:26,611 You know, just acting like crazy to go up there. 282 00:17:26,613 --> 00:17:29,347 I think it will happen really stupid When I got above there 283 00:17:29,349 --> 00:17:31,215 And get out of the car and he's there. 284 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,252 You know, and I'm out of the car and that isn't what happens. 285 00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:37,188 You know, everyone says 286 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:39,590 Take five steps, look up, look down, look around. 287 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,093 Take five steps, look up, look down and around. 288 00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:43,261 And that's what we do. 289 00:17:43,263 --> 00:17:45,930 I mean, there are many areas up there 290 00:17:45,932 --> 00:17:47,231 There are people everywhere. 291 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,567 I mean, there are 200 plus searchers there, 292 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:51,669 The day after he left lost on Saturday 293 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:53,838 You know, there are people in everywhere 294 00:17:58,877 --> 00:18:01,112 Maybe he fell to the creek 295 00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:03,347 The river, search and rescue crew 296 00:18:03,349 --> 00:18:05,116 Going through
their hands and feet, 297 00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:07,852 With the poles, really crawling through the river. 298 00:18:07,854 --> 00:18:08,920 None. 299 00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:11,022 I guess they check the nest of wolves, 300 00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:12,957 They check the nest of bears, 301 00:18:12,959 --> 00:18:14,425 They check eagle nests. 302 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,061 Because the eagle can take 30 pounds 303 00:18:17,063 --> 00:18:20,364 A little deorr weighed around 27-28 pounds 304 00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:22,100 There are bears in the area. 305 00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:24,802 There are bobcats, There are mountain lions. 306 00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:26,404 There are other animals. 307 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:30,374 But there will be some some kind of clothes, 308 00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:33,444 Or bones, or something like that, you will think. 309 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:36,681 There are no clothes, no meat 310 00:18:36,683 --> 00:18:39,117 Or anything that will be shown that an animal got it. 311 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,719 There's no blood, there's nothing there 312 00:18:45,557 --> 00:18:48,259 You know, you think you will find something 313 00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:51,129 You are talking about the trail you are looking for, 314 00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:53,030 Or maybe a boot is off. 315 00:18:53,032 --> 00:18:55,800 Well, they are camouflage cowboy boots 316 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,268 You know, the problem is, 317 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,570 Everything was there at that time of year that high. 318 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,139 You know... 319 00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:03,341 It's the same size as him. 320 00:19:05,944 --> 00:19:07,678 That's possible. 321 00:19:09,414 --> 00:19:11,949 This little boot is similar... 322 00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,851 Actually this is the right boot, 323 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:15,720 It might be some bigger size, 324 00:19:15,722 --> 00:19:19,257 Deorr it's used the day he go missing 325 00:19:20,125 --> 00:19:22,226 I can tell you from experience, 326 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:24,428 That these boots aren't still really good 327 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:26,564 My grandson kicked them in the car seat 328 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:28,266 Every time we put him there 329 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,036 They're too big for him, so they're careless, 330 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:34,071 And he's awkward indeed. 331 00:19:34,073 --> 00:19:36,607 When he walks, he just walked awkwardly. 332 00:19:36,609 --> 00:19:39,810 Someone raised it, cowboy boot must have fallen from his feet. 333 00:19:39,812 --> 00:19:41,646 So if this is his boots 334 00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:45,082 Deorr is using that day and they are too big, 335 00:19:45,084 --> 00:19:47,151 Of course if an animal will grab it, 336 00:19:47,153 --> 00:19:49,020 Even if there are other people /> kidnapped him, 337 00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,923 I think we will have found... something 338 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:54,926 Boots, his jacket... 339 00:19:56,395 --> 00:19:57,828 Something will be found Up there. 340 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,802 We went for three or four days without sleep 341 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:06,404 And I reached the point where 342 00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,806 I was emotional chaos. 343 00:20:16,949 --> 00:20:18,616 You have to have double investigation. 344 00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,985 You have to think of searching, that's good. 345 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,286 Then you can't find anything, 346 00:20:22,288 --> 00:20:24,322 Then you start focusing on parents 347 00:20:24,324 --> 00:20:28,726 Then you focus on people, who else is in the camp around that time. 348 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:30,695 And now they come down hard 349 00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,063 On jessica and deorr. 350 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:33,464 Try to play one against the other 351 00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:35,600 To see if someone will say it. 352 00:20:35,602 --> 00:20:37,668 Law enforcement < br /> keep telling us 353 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:40,538 That all individuals are being cooperative. 354 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:42,873 They are all questioned individually, 355 00:20:42,875 --> 00:20:44,175 And together -sama. 356 00:20:44,177 --> 00:20:46,177 And they work with them. 357 00:20:46,179 --> 00:20:49,213 None some kind of red flag 358 00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,581 The police said it 359 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,751 It points them towards one particular individual 360 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:56,254 You know, I have to do it Hold his hand 361 00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:58,422 And go for a walk with him
and say, 362 00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:00,258 "You just have to promise me, 363 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:02,093 If something happens it happens, 364 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:03,728 You have to talk to me, < br /> You have to tell me. " 365 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:06,297 You know, and the conversation 366 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:08,199 It's very clear and straight away, 367 00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:12,236 And he comes back and says, "Mother, I don't know why you did this to me. 368 00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:14,005 I have nothing do with this. " 369 00:21:20,412 --> 00:21:22,980 deorr sr. And jessica mitchell, 370 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:24,482 Old man deorr young, 371 00:21:24,484 --> 00:21:28,619 Come to our studio and look annoyed. 372 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,755 They look like they are wearing the same clothes 373 00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,757 That's what they wore when they camped 374 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:36,193 He brought a deor blanket 375 00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:37,895 It was dirty, it's ragged, 376 00:21:37,897 --> 00:21:39,930 It's not washed. And teddy bear. 377 00:21:39,932 --> 00:21:42,166 One of the little toys. 378 00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:45,436 We sit down, and like me < br /> do with any interview, 379 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,505 Especially with desperate parents, 380 00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,440 You want to show affection and kindness. 381 00:21:49,442 --> 00:21:51,342 But you too want to know if they 382 00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:54,211 Maybe something should be done with his departure. 383 00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:56,080 Alright, deorr, so take us back... 384 00:21:56,082 --> 00:21:58,382 Is it Friday? 385 00:21:58,384 --> 00:21:59,817 I'm not sure what day
it's today 386 00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:01,786 Today is Monday. It's Friday. -Yes. It's Friday. 387 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:03,087 Friday about... . 388 00:22:04,289 --> 00:22:07,158 2:26 is when I... Is that 2:26? 389 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,826 It was 2:36. 390 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:12,330 2: 36 is when he calls and I am in the truck 391 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:13,964 Extending my hand to the road, trying to get service 392 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:15,766 Because I don't think one bar will get it 393 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,902 We... We only... 394 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,837 Yes, we decided we will explore a little. 395 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,073 He'll be fine grandpa by the campfire 396 00:22:22,075 --> 00:22:24,909 -We don't maybe more than 15-- -tenth minutes. 397 00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:26,444 Fifty yards away in ten minutes 398 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:29,146 When I see it 399 00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:30,915 Until I know he goes 400 00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:32,583 and the river is empty ? 401 00:22:32,585 --> 00:22:34,118 That little river, there's nothing 402 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,787 They have a chainsaw, um, move, 403 00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:39,824 Because every a few feet it's blocked. 404 00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:42,827 Blocked and blocked from nature. 405 00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:46,430 From tress, from branches, from debris 406 00:22:46,432 --> 00:22:49,600 I mean, there are lots of from places he can, 407 00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:51,435 And that's what they want to eliminate. 408 00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:52,670 That's my biggest concern. 409 00:22:52,672 --> 00:22:54,438 Because that's where we passed 410 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,774 That means there is Maybe he's still alive. 411 00:22:56,776 --> 00:23:00,578 And that's all I need there's a chance to find out he's still alive 412 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,513 And until I have it... 413 00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:05,850 And closing, or he , no one stops 414 00:23:05,852 --> 00:23:09,687 do you know if someone has a grudge against you 415 00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:11,722 I mean, I'm sure gone through your mind... 416 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:12,790 We have brought our brains. 417 00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:14,258 We have brought our brains. 418 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:16,494 And I don't know anyone
00:23:18,562 It will like you or hate you 420 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:21,399 But not to hurt a two-year-old child, almost three years. 422 00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:26,437 Especially knowing how much he meant to us. 423 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:28,906 He's everything for us. 424 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880 no, we're actually getting married next month 425 00:23:35,882 --> 00:23:37,248 oh. 426 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:39,583 I saw the ring and didn't know whether it was an engagement, or... 427 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:40,785 engagement. 428 00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:42,553 how long have you been together? Pop quiz 429 00:23:42,555 --> 00:23:44,522 - almost five years - -yeah 430 00:23:48,727 --> 00:23:51,695 jessica always very, very quiet 431 00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:55,800 He doesn't like to let it People see it emotionally. 432 00:23:58,403 --> 00:23:59,670 yes, he's silent 433 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:02,406 And he's one more more dynamic 434 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,008 Maybe you can say it maybe wrong. 435 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,115 You know, the 911 call he made, 436 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,383 Everyone keeps saying, 437 00:24:12,385 --> 00:24:14,718 < You know, why is that? he's so calm 438 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,855 I really camped on the leadore 439 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:20,391 Only outside tin. 440 00:24:20,393 --> 00:24:21,559 uh huh. 441 00:24:21,561 --> 00:24:24,261 um, my two-year-old son... 442 00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:26,063 Um, we can't find it. 443 00:24:27,766 --> 00:24:29,567 I know them need money. 444 00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:32,236 I know they owe lots of money in montpelier, 445 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,305 Lots of money for child care < 446 00:24:34,307 --> 00:24:36,340 And I knew he had his body tied since, 447 00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:40,110 So he would never be able to it was upside down, never another child 448 00:24:40,112 --> 00:24:43,881 I think he did that because he doesn't want children 449 00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,983 But there is evidence that he is... 450 00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:48,819 Uh, experiencing difficulties dealing with children 451 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,288 He will leave his child in a daycare center, 452 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:52,857 And leave him without supervision many times. 453 00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:56,393 I have talked to many people who took it. 454 00:24:56,395 --> 00:25:00,231 He has two children from his ex-husband. 455 00:25:00,233 --> 00:25:03,868 And every weekend other they went to his house over the weekend. 456 00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:13,177 Looks like good kids. Still think they are good kids. 457 00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:15,079 Um... 458 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,615 They are sick... Bad. 459 00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:19,683 Um... 460 00:25:20,752 --> 00:25:23,153 I've been holding deorr while she's crying 461 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,923 After we finished the interview, 462 00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,825 I said, "Okay, I hope he was found today 463 00:25:27,827 --> 00:25:30,628 I hope you found it today." 464 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:32,263 And then, that night, 465 00:25:32,265 --> 00:25:34,698 I see them again on sunbathing. 466 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:36,166 hear god from all comforts, sir, 467 00:25:36,168 --> 00:25:39,603 That you will feel comfortable heart jessica and deorr 468 00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:40,838 And trina, sir. 469 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,473 He can be very, very close. 470 00:25:42,475 --> 00:25:43,941 He can be very far away. 471 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:46,644 We are not know, but we close all bases at the moment. 472 00:25:46,646 --> 00:25:50,948 Not much can be said apart from one small mistake as a parent 473 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:54,885 You know, leaving him with adults 474 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,554 That turns his head for a while, 475 00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:57,955 They move, they go. 476 00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,691 Please, appreciate and love each other. 477 00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:02,993 Because it can be changed < br /> in just a split second. 478 00:26:02,995 --> 00:26:05,563 and they say that they depart from just in case 479 00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:07,565 To go back up to camp 480 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:08,866 To keep looking. 481 00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:40,431 basically what we will do is choose an area 482 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,866 Do we want to climb and explore. 483 00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:47,605 So when we join the great south road for the first time, 484 00:26:47,607 --> 00:26:50,708 Beautiful ascension, beautiful, beautiful river 485 00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,613 This is really a wild area. 486 00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:59,049 And the reason why did Gary and I really enjoy 487 00:26:59,051 --> 00:27:00,317 Hiking together. 488 00:27:04,889 --> 00:27:06,890 And then that just a coincidence 489 00:27:06,892 --> 00:27:08,926 That we end up on the rock 490 00:27:08,928 --> 00:27:11,562 And say, you know, "Let's climb the hill." 491 00:27:11,564 --> 00:27:16,100 And I think it's about < br /> 2,000 feet climb 492 00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,435 Altitude to get to the top of that 493 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:21,271 But the country is truly extraordinary. 494 00:27:21,273 --> 00:27:22,673 yeah well.... 495 00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:24,608 Pretty much it feels almost scrambling. 496 00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:26,543 So you see your feet, 497 00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,679 And basically you just focus 498 00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:30,214 A few meters in front of from you, your own feet, 499 00:27:30,216 --> 00:27:32,149 So you don't turn your ankles or something. 500 00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:34,051 And that's when I see shoes. 501 00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:41,525 It feels like someone just took their foot out of it, you know 502 00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:42,926 It's very fresh, I think like 503 00:27:42,928 --> 00:27:45,095 I'll see the little boy standing in front of me 504 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:51,268 - Cheese. - -and who is your name? 505 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:54,238 Now give me that big smile with dimples. 506 00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,407 Yes! 507 00:27:56,409 --> 00:27:58,842 it's not so much that he likes the robber. 508 00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,644 He loves silver and black. 509 00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:02,880 And when he saw the robbers on tv one day, 510 00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:04,648 He was like, "Daddy, there are silver and black teams." 511 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,917 I said, "yes, there is." "that's my team, daddy." 512 00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:08,352 And I'm like, "okay." 513 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,753 So he's a raider fan. 514 00:28:11,222 --> 00:28:12,856 My name is jocelyn atadero, 515 00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:14,625 And my brother jaryd atadero is missing 516 00:28:14,627 --> 00:28:17,294 In the colorado mountains in 1999. 517 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:20,798 When I was young, 518 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,466 My father will tell me that I will tell him 519 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,435 Certain memories I have of from the increase. 520 00:28:24,437 --> 00:28:25,869 As I get older, 521 00:28:25,871 --> 00:28:29,339 I can't even tell you what I told him at that time. 522 00:28:29,341 --> 00:28:31,642 The only memories I have 523 00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:34,311 From the resort, or during that time period, 524 00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:37,114 Is after jaryd gone 525 00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:39,083 We returned at the resort in a room... 526 00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,651 I can't even tell you where, 527 00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:42,586 And my father kneels on the ground crying, 528 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:43,887 And I hugged him. 529 00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:51,061 I'm interested in to poudre canyon, 530 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:53,964 Because, you know, the tree is beautiful 531 00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,167 And you know there are items out there, 532 00:28:57,169 --> 00:28:58,368 But it's just that interesting because 533 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,938 You're part of canyon poudre there. 534 00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:06,777 it's about a resort of 10 are. 535 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:09,413 It's small, but, you know, we keep busy 536 00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:13,751 it's all about just being there 537 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:15,753 That one of them a situation where 538 00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,722 If you really have a small shop there... 539 00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:21,024 We wake up at six in the morning day 540 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:23,427 And we close at eleven at night. 541 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:26,930 Don't just do it take care of us, 542 00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:28,832 But how many people got the chance 543 00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:31,135 Next for their children 24/7? 544 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:34,104 And that's what I really enjoyed about the canyon 545 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,405 There are only three of us. 546 00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:37,641 I mean, even though a family at the resort, 547 00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:39,042 We have those people working for us, 548 00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:40,544 That's jocelyn, jared and me. 549 00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:42,379 We know that we are family 550 00:29:48,486 --> 00:29:51,922 The group decided that they wanted it to go to the trout farm, 551 00:29:51,924 --> 00:29:53,423 Fishing, right around the corner 552 00:29:53,425 --> 00:29:56,226 Maybe about one and a half miles , two miles from the resort itself 553 00:29:58,696 --> 00:30:00,230 Hey, allyn. Jocelyn wants to know... 554 00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:02,032 some people I know pretty well. 555 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:05,002 So I gave permission for jocelyn to go. 556 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,104 Don't know that jaryd will say, 557 00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:10,174 " Wow, dad, if he can go, Why don't I leave too? " 558 00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:13,577 He holds his shoes. 559 00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:15,212 He hates binding his shoes. 560 00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:17,014 So I didn't make it his shoe tie 561 00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:19,283 And he likes a cream jacket 562 00:30:20,618 --> 00:30:21,819 Have fun, okay? 563 00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:24,321 Don't get too close to the water 564 00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:27,958 I let jaryd go and I assume that's where they go. 565 00:30:38,903 --> 00:30:41,705 Moderate. Oops, downs. 566 00:30:41,707 --> 00:30:44,875 You can take a child there as long as you keep the child queues 567 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:47,945 And depends on it. 568 00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:52,216 Because there are several areas where there are only edges 24 inches wide 569 00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:55,652 And you have a loose shell all the way down to the river, so... 570 00:30:55,654 --> 00:30:57,087 And then there are rock fields 571 00:30:57,089 --> 00:30:58,522 Being a moderate footprint, that's quite difficult 572 00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:02,025 If you are not in shape, it will take him out of you. 573 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:05,629 The church group rises south south on the trail. 574 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:06,897 They park the car in end of the road, 575 00:31:06,899 --> 00:31:09,166 And they start walking on the path. 576 00:31:15,006 --> 00:31:18,442 They start separating or Stretching as they walk. 577 00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:20,510 Some people are faster and slower. 578 00:31:22,413 --> 00:31:26,149 An adult with a sister jaryd and jaryd , 579 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,919 It looks like in front of from someone else 580 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,422 As jaryd, as a three year old child, 581 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:35,425 Running and playing < br /> and have fun. 582 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,995 And I believe there is something 583 00:31:37,997 --> 00:31:40,697 Ten to twenty minutes worth of time 584 00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:43,567 That he lost track... 585 00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:47,137 Adults realize, "I didn't see it for a while." 586 00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:49,706 And when they climbed to try to find it, 587 00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:51,909 They keep thinking they will catch up, 588 00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:53,343 And they don't catch up. 589 00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:56,747 It's reported that he's talking to some fishermen 590 00:31:56,749 --> 00:32:00,884 And he asks if there are bears around. 591 00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:03,320 And he's alone in this matter time point. 592 00:32:07,158 --> 00:32:10,427 At least they have an idea, You know, roughly 593 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:12,195 Where he was last seen. 594 00:32:17,802 --> 00:32:21,204 I was cleaning up a few things, 595 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:25,442 and decided to sit down < 596 00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:28,111 And I must have watched for maybe 15 or 20 minutes, 597 00:32:28,113 --> 00:32:29,680 And I slowly nodded. 598 00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:36,853 something wrong. 600 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:42,726 "What happened?" and they said, 601 00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,329 "We have a problem with jaryd." 602 00:32:45,331 --> 00:32:48,398 < "What happened? Did he fall? Did he scrape his knee? 603 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,734 Did he break his arm? What happened?" 604 00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:52,736 And what actually they said to me is, 605 00:32:53,738 --> 00:32:57,207 "he's fine We can't find him." 606 00:32:57,209 --> 00:33:00,811 At that time, I realized I had to go up the road. 607 00:33:00,813 --> 00:33:03,213 We entered our car. I'm in my truck. 608 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:05,082 And I'm like, "well, where are we going?" 609 00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:07,351 They say it's about... I don't remember 610 00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:09,586 Sixteen, fifteen, sixteen years miles on the road. 611 00:33:09,588 --> 00:33:11,855 I'm like, "are you serious?" 612 00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,691 How did you get that? far down the road? 613 00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:18,996 And along the way on the road, 614 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:20,597 I kept beating myself on the chest, 615 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,499 Like someone who was stabbed me with a sword 616 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:25,102 Just hit my chest and shout. 617 00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:26,703 Father is sorry, little one. 618 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:27,971 Just shouting the name jaryd. 619 00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,639 Sorry I let you go 620 00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:32,376 Shouting for god To help me. 621 00:33:32,378 --> 00:33:33,977 Please help me find my son, my lord 622 00:33:33,979 --> 00:33:35,078 Just shouting and screaming. 623 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,580 I shouted and screamed in my truck 624 00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:38,348 All the way up the road. 625 00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,384 I don't even know how to do it I got there. 626 00:33:40,386 --> 00:33:42,986 I drove that way maybe twice as fast 627 00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:45,288 Like everyone else riding that road 628 00:33:50,561 --> 00:33:52,029 Jaryd! 629 00:33:57,735 --> 00:33:59,403 Jaryd ! 630 00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:04,508 And when I ran on that path, 631 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:06,977 I shouted and shouted, and screamed his name, 632 00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:08,211 Screamed, "jaryd." 633 00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,013 Screamed "jay-rod." I call him jay-rod. 634 00:34:10,015 --> 00:34:11,415 I call him "my little boy." 635 00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:14,251 I call all names I can, 636 00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:17,554 Trying to get a response from him. 637 00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,224 Dan aku mendengarkan. 638 00:34:33,871 --> 00:34:36,706 And I'm not so sure how far we wake up on the path, 639 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:40,143 But I stop and I'm aware, "God. This will be.... 640 00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:42,045 This is not what I think that 641 00:34:42,047 --> 00:34:43,780 I can't get here and find him. " 642 00:34:51,289 --> 00:34:55,559 we work for solid eight days start with. 643 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:59,796 And that's 24 hours a day for eight days 644 00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:02,799 We will continue any visual contact when. 645 00:35:02,801 --> 00:35:05,435 We did a couple of nights looking for. 646 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,270 It's limited to a certain degree, 647 00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:10,907 But we always have people in field 648 00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,476 To make a scene, 649 00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:14,311 So if someone is out there now, 650 00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:16,780 Jaryd must have heard it, he might just 651 00:35:16,782 --> 00:35:19,449 Respond or go to. 652 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:24,054 it's very intense Very media friendly. 653 00:35:24,056 --> 00:35:26,056 I mean, there is media, cnn... 654 00:35:26,058 --> 00:35:29,426 So it becomes a real national episode 655 00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:33,530 So, it makes a lot of stress on us and a lot of stress on dogs 656 00:35:41,339 --> 00:35:43,673 That is a situation where... 657 00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,078 People lose hope. 658 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,547 Like, we won't < br /> find him, you know 659 00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:53,250 This is one of the situations where he disappeared 660 00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,125 We have climbed the area several times before, 661 00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:04,761 And we talked about 662 00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,463 Mystery jaryd atadero. 663 00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:08,198 Has he ever swept downstream, 664 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,234 Kidnapped by mountain lions, 665 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:14,271 Or something more evil than that 666 00:36:14,273 --> 00:36:16,907 This time, we decided to go trace. 667 00:36:16,909 --> 00:36:19,743 And we just walked go directly into it 668 00:36:19,745 --> 00:36:22,712 And we know right away 669 00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:26,283 That might be jaryd atadero & apos; s clothes 670 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,862 No... Wow, that's difficult. 671 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:40,197 It's impossible. Not possible. 672 00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:41,831 -SAYA... - right not possible 673 00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,267 Not all the way I can't see him leaving... 674 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,404 He lives in a cabin - 675 00:36:47,406 --> 00:36:49,105 He's three year. There is no way... 676 00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:51,274 There is no way it will happen 677 00:36:51,276 --> 00:36:54,411 Yes. I mean, this is a struggle /> for gary and I got there 678 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:55,812 Very rough terrain. 679 00:37:27,378 --> 00:37:30,247 there is a k-9 warning 680 00:37:30,249 --> 00:37:32,249 It will go that direction. 681 00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,784 Now, are they correct on the scree field, 682 00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:38,822 Or before that, but that's right at least remind that hill. 683 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:41,458 That's why am I enough Surely we searched it, 684 00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:44,828 Because we... When warning dogs like that, 685 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:46,796 We were thinking, "okay, something must be up there 686 00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,332 Come there and look for it." 687 00:37:49,334 --> 00:37:51,635 But we never find something 688 00:37:51,637 --> 00:37:55,472 I think whatever happens is beyond our understanding 689 00:37:57,041 --> 00:37:58,808 In many of these cases, 690 00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:01,778 Search and save,
or volunteer looking for people 691 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,780 Already gone in certain areas, 692 00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:07,117 Not once, not twice, but even tens of times. 693 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,353 Then, The child was found there 694 00:38:10,355 --> 00:38:12,589 Maybe a year, Maybe a few years later. 695 00:38:15,493 --> 00:38:17,494 when did we find His clothes 696 00:38:17,496 --> 00:38:18,762 And back there, 697 00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:21,264 With some people involved in the search, 698 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,766 You know, they are all scratching their head 699 00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:25,001 Like, you know, they have all already there 700 00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,803 Regions. 701 00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:30,507 My conclusion is an animal meeting 702 00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:32,409 Right at the beginning. 703 00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:36,546 So, I'm not sure officially 704 00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:40,350 What the actual was released as finality, 705 00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:44,454 But that's quite a number of points to the animal meeting 706 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,890 If a cat really carries it, 707 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:50,160 That's what I believe, I believe it happens 708 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:52,796 That cat must have been taken he's some place 709 00:38:52,798 --> 00:38:54,364 And buried it, and... 710 00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:56,466 With all its activities it's happening 711 00:38:56,468 --> 00:38:58,401 Maybe so too has gone away, 712 00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:00,170 Because we will have the fear is gone, 713 00:39:00,172 --> 00:39:02,072 And that's the way it is coming back later 714 00:39:03,974 --> 00:39:07,410 I heard continuously about mountain lions 715 00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:11,781 However, when they were tested clothes jaryd, 716 00:39:11,783 --> 00:39:13,416 There there is no mountain lion hair, 717 00:39:13,418 --> 00:39:16,986 There is no dna, there is no blood, not in her clothes 718 00:39:16,988 --> 00:39:20,190 This is actually the left of the skull 719 00:39:20,192 --> 00:39:21,891 After the four tests it is different. 720 00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:26,262 To think that I'm... 721 00:39:26,264 --> 00:39:28,732 I mean, I'm having trouble understanding this 722 00:39:28,734 --> 00:39:31,501 But I think I'm actually sitting on here holding my child... 723 00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:34,938 Here's what I have left him 724 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:40,243 The clothes were sent to cbi 725 00:39:40,245 --> 00:39:42,078 The clothes are tested by cbi. 726 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,547 There is no mountain hair lion, 727 00:39:44,549 --> 00:39:47,784 There is no blood, nothing from clothing items. 728 00:39:51,355 --> 00:39:54,124 If a mountain lion will attack him, 729 00:39:54,126 --> 00:39:55,759 They go to the stomach area. 730 00:39:55,761 --> 00:39:57,794 This jacket will have been torn 731 00:39:57,796 --> 00:39:59,262 I have been told by several people, 732 00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:00,897 Mountain lion experts in the forest, 733 00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:04,234 This jacket won't congratulate you from the mountain lion attack, point 734 00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:05,802 These are actual shoes. 735 00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:08,405 These are jaryd shoes that found up on the mountain 736 00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,039 I've been told by experts 737 00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,142 That they don't look like they have in the wilderness 738 00:40:12,144 --> 00:40:13,510 For three and a half years. 739 00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:16,913 That other thing Interesting about shoes 740 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,982 Would you think 741 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:22,552 That's if a mountain lion < br /> dragging his body 742 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,487 Up the mountain, 743 00:40:24,489 --> 00:40:26,322 And dragging it like this, 744 00:40:26,324 --> 00:40:28,358 You will see the sign on the shoe. 745 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,527 And there is no sign here. 746 00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:33,863 You will think if that's the case dragging it like this 747 00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:35,298 Up the mountain, 748 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:36,833 You will not only do it see the sign, 749 00:40:36,835 --> 00:40:39,536 But it will be interesting the shoes long before 750 00:40:39,538 --> 00:40:41,337 The area where they found it. 751 00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:43,807 Jaryd's pants found inside out. 752 00:40:44,642 --> 00:40:46,543 When people first see this, 753 00:40:46,545 --> 00:40:49,312 They get scared, and go away, "geez! 754 00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:51,514 What can be what happened to him ? " 755 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:54,451 There are birds and mice and so on 756 00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:55,852 Literally pulling it apart, 757 00:40:55,854 --> 00:40:58,755 Using material as nesting 758 00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:00,557 So you see this material everywhere 759 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,692 So it's not because something attacked him 760 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,327 And tore his leg. 761 00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:08,465 This all because rats and birds 762 00:41:10,734 --> 00:41:13,670 We lighten in one sense, 763 00:41:13,672 --> 00:41:15,772 That mystery exists has been solved 764 00:41:16,273 --> 00:41:17,907 My feelings about that is that 765 00:41:17,909 --> 00:41:22,011 Jaryd was kidnapped on the rock 766 00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:23,413 By the mountain lion. 767 00:41:23,415 --> 00:41:26,449 Mountain lion He grabs his shoulder, 768 00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:30,420 And immediately goes up this side of the mountain. 769 00:41:30,422 --> 00:41:32,155 Inside one of those reports, 770 00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:33,990 Someone said, 771 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:36,526 "the reason why we didn't find it DNA or blood 772 00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:41,498 Is it because of him? or something deleted his clothes 773 00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:49,639 Either jaryd or whatever took off his clothes before he was attacked. 774 00:41:50,541 --> 00:41:52,509 And they kept saying that 775 00:41:52,511 --> 00:41:54,544 < "Because there are so many pedestrians coming, 776 00:41:54,546 --> 00:41:58,581 That mountain lion took it jaryd's body 500 feet on the cliff side. " 777 00:41:58,583 --> 00:42:00,116 Wait a minute 778 00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,384 I can buy all of that. 779 00:42:01,386 --> 00:42:03,152 But I can't buy this. 780 00:42:03,154 --> 00:42:07,390 If something or someone takes < brary> jaryd's clothes die before he is attacked, 781 00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:10,527 That means her clothes aren't with her 782 00:42:10,529 --> 00:42:12,662 When this is done He climbs the mountain. 783 00:42:14,431 --> 00:42:16,599 Jaryd's pants found inside out 784 00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:19,202 It says many people mountain lion experts, 785 00:42:19,204 --> 00:42:22,305 Mountain lions don't draw clothes from you, 786 00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,407 Especially your pants and leave them there on the mountain 787 00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:25,742 Inside out. 788 00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:28,044 Too much... 789 00:42:28,046 --> 00:42:31,247 There are too many questions
who doesn't have an answer 790 00:42:31,249 --> 00:42:33,917 And I feel very, my family and I feel strong 791 00:42:33,919 --> 00:42:35,885 That's someone out there 792 00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:37,954 Who knows a little more than we know 793 00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:52,769 You know, when I asked about this 794 00:42:52,771 --> 00:42:54,871 From people who have heard it our interview 795 00:42:54,873 --> 00:42:56,673 People will obey it 796 00:42:56,675 --> 00:42:58,274 It's a bear, it's a mountain lion, 797 00:42:58,276 --> 00:42:59,642 This is some kind of animal. 798 00:42:59,644 --> 00:43:01,411 But I mean, they left a clue, there is evidence 799 00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:02,912 There is blood, there is a network, 800 00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:05,515 There are indications a struggle, right? 801 00:43:05,517 --> 00:43:06,950 oh, of course 802 00:43:06,952 --> 00:43:09,519 And when the tracker enters with search and rescue, 803 00:43:09,521 --> 00:43:11,254 They look for the indicator. 804 00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:14,223 There will be a big one Blood scene, 805 00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:16,659 Hair, drag and objects, 806 00:43:16,661 --> 00:43:19,095 Like an animal it takes you away 807 00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:21,064 That's one of the points that we are veterinarians 808 00:43:21,066 --> 00:43:23,266 Before we look inside one of these cases 809 00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:25,768 And in the last 100 years, 810 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:28,871 There were only 14 fatal mountain lion attacks 811 00:43:28,873 --> 00:43:31,040 in the United States and Canada 812 00:43:45,923 --> 00:43:47,924 idaho falls, idaho, 813 00:43:49,126 --> 00:43:51,227 and robert c. Walton. 814 00:43:57,434 --> 00:43:59,669 I didn't play with him a lot 815 00:43:59,671 --> 00:44:01,871 He just arrived the point where he 816 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,074 Can do something, you know. 817 00:44:05,076 --> 00:44:09,045 He's here quite a bit with jessica 818 00:44:09,047 --> 00:44:11,681 And he came here and a bum of sweets from me 819 00:44:20,724 --> 00:44:22,425 well... 820 00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:25,428 Sure. I think a little. 821 00:44:26,398 --> 00:44:31,901 I think everyone there has a little guilt about it. 822 00:44:32,403 --> 00:44:33,770 You know? 823 00:44:33,772 --> 00:44:35,171 Deorr and jessica say that 824 00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,774 They decided to go camping that weekend 825 00:44:37,776 --> 00:44:40,543 To kind of revive < 826 00:44:40,545 --> 00:44:43,513 Good memories for Bob Walton's grandfather 827 00:44:43,515 --> 00:44:46,649 This is apparently a point that in previous years 828 00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:49,218 Bob Walton went there several times. 829 00:44:50,454 --> 00:44:53,056 Grandfather is on oxygen. 830 00:44:53,058 --> 00:44:55,758 Some say, have some memory problems 831 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,794 Law enforcement, from the first day, 832 00:44:57,796 --> 00:44:59,962 Keep putting aside grandfather, 833 00:44:59,964 --> 00:45:01,998 Because of their health problems, 834 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,601 And they don't think that in the right frame of mind 835 00:45:05,603 --> 00:45:07,603 Doing something like this. 836 00:45:07,605 --> 00:45:09,439 With my father 837 00:45:09,441 --> 00:45:11,607 I asked Jessica to go up there, 838 00:45:11,609 --> 00:45:15,611 To be with her in the event something happened for my father 839 00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:17,080 It could be take care of him. 840 00:45:17,082 --> 00:45:18,648 I don't know bob, 841 00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:20,817 And I've never met issac. 842 00:45:20,819 --> 00:45:25,621 But it's the only one < br /> Two other people there, 843 00:45:25,623 --> 00:45:28,024 Apart from Jessica and deorr... 844 00:45:28,026 --> 00:45:30,026 If he was taken from the camp, 845 00:45:30,028 --> 00:45:31,894 They must be involved somehow. 846 00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,896 Since deorr kunz disappeared, 847 00:45:33,898 --> 00:45:37,400 Many have questions about whose friend it is with family 848 00:45:37,402 --> 00:45:38,935 That day at the campsite. 849 00:45:38,937 --> 00:45:41,537 The name is the reinwand issac. 850 00:45:41,539 --> 00:45:43,639 So we went to his house idaho fell home 851 00:45:43,641 --> 00:45:46,275 Again and again... 852 00:45:46,277 --> 00:45:47,376 Hello. 853 00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:48,511 ... And more. 854 00:45:49,513 --> 00:45:51,414 Finally, Monday morning, 855 00:45:51,416 --> 00:45:52,682 He answered the door. 856 00:45:52,684 --> 00:45:54,684 I'm Miss Eonon with East idaho news 857 00:45:54,686 --> 00:45:56,786 Yes, I don't have it question, I'm sorry 858 00:45:56,788 --> 00:45:58,121 You don't have anything you want to say? 859 00:45:58,123 --> 00:45:59,756 Alright. Sorry to wake you up 860 00:45:59,758 --> 00:46:02,558 We just want to see if you have something to say about deorr missing 861 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,227 -Not me. -You don't? 862 00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:08,231 So he's only with you and his grandfather when did he leave? 863 00:46:08,233 --> 00:46:11,467 And then, you guys think he's with parents? 864 00:46:13,203 --> 00:46:14,704 Yes. 865 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:16,506 And the old man returns and he leaves? 866 00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:19,041 Mm-hmm. 867 00:46:08,043 --> 00:46:21,177 Okay, listen. I don't have... I don't... I can't... 868 00:46:21,179 --> 00:46:23,679 I don't want to answer any more questions or anything 869 00:46:23,681 --> 00:46:25,114 Thank you sir 870 00:46:25,116 --> 00:46:27,350 The strange thing about issac, he never looked for that boy 871 00:46:27,352 --> 00:46:29,318 I interviewed issac. 872 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,287 He's a weird duck. 873 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:36,125 And he did have before the belief in sex crimes. 874 00:46:36,127 --> 00:46:39,328 it was reduced to a minor crime and violation. 875 00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:41,097 And things the weird one 876 00:46:41,099 --> 00:46:44,700 Is the morning after that the little boy is gone, 877 00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:46,335 He got up and said some people, 878 00:46:46,337 --> 00:46:49,105 "It's a break best night I have been a long time ago. " 879 00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:52,275 The old man told me that they have never met issac 880 00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:54,076 Until this camping trip. 881 00:46:54,078 --> 00:46:56,746 The grandfather said, "oh, I will bring a friend. 882 00:46:56,748 --> 00:46:58,748 We will go fishing together. 883 00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:00,983 We will have fun at the weekend go together. " 884 00:47:00,985 --> 00:47:02,985 And the old man okay with that 885 00:47:05,757 --> 00:47:07,023 Bob walton? 886 00:47:07,025 --> 00:47:08,391 That's one of mine belongs good friend I met him 887 00:47:08,393 --> 00:47:11,294 When I live continuously chamberlain avenue. 888 00:47:12,162 --> 00:47:14,063 I already know it
five years or more. 889 00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:16,399 He always tries help me out 890 00:47:16,401 --> 00:47:20,169 And I have done the work for him in his yard 891 00:47:20,171 --> 00:47:24,273 He always invites me fishing every year, so... 892 00:47:24,275 --> 00:47:26,709 I decided to do it go this year too, 893 00:47:26,711 --> 00:47:28,211 Because, you know, < br /> it's fun. 894 00:47:32,382 --> 00:47:34,283 It's good and clear. 895 00:47:34,285 --> 00:47:39,021 I don't know It's noisy because of the little river. 896 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:41,924 But besides that, It's a beautiful day. 897 00:47:41,926 --> 00:47:44,493 Nothing the real cloud in the sky 898 00:47:49,499 --> 00:47:52,501 not too much. It's just that I'm fishing 899 00:47:52,503 --> 00:47:54,604 And issac is watching me, 900 00:47:54,606 --> 00:47:57,940 And he very excited I caught a few. 901 00:47:57,942 --> 00:47:59,942 He'll get the poles out 902 00:47:59,944 --> 00:48:02,378 I think we got caught four or five. 903 00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:05,715 About that time, here it is jess and deorr back. 905 00:48:09,187 --> 00:48:12,655 They have to go down get some gas for the truck 906 00:48:12,657 --> 00:48:14,090 And they come back. 907 00:48:14,092 --> 00:48:17,460 being an issac and jessica and deorr is... 908 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:20,897 Going fishing. 909 00:48:21,632 --> 00:48:23,432 And that child with me, 910 00:48:23,434 --> 00:48:26,135 But I turned around Just a minute, I don't know 911 00:48:26,137 --> 00:48:29,639 For how long, five or ten minutes, I don't know 912 00:48:29,641 --> 00:48:32,541 Grandfather claims himself not into the trailer. 913 00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:34,243 But I'm sure he do it. 914 00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:36,312 I believe he did it get into the trailer 915 00:48:36,314 --> 00:48:38,147 I showed it some fishing holes. 916 00:48:38,149 --> 00:48:40,383 I'll go down to another fishing hole 917 00:48:40,385 --> 00:48:44,186 I might be down there half an hour, one hour, and... 918 00:48:44,188 --> 00:48:47,590 I looked to the right where they're fishing 919 00:48:47,592 --> 00:48:50,493 And I see them fishing poles lay eggs there on the ground, 920 00:48:50,495 --> 00:48:51,861 And they're not there. 921 00:48:51,863 --> 00:48:54,297 then is this coming deorr 922 00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:56,632 What are the words? "Little lady?" 923 00:48:56,634 --> 00:48:59,302 And I said, "He was there. " you know. 924 00:48:59,304 --> 00:49:03,139 And then, I see my friend bob on the ridge 925 00:49:03,141 --> 00:49:05,775 And I approached him and asked what was going on. 926 00:49:05,777 --> 00:49:07,843 And he said, "deorr is gone." 927 00:49:07,845 --> 00:49:09,979 So we all start look for it 928 00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:14,450 no. 929 00:49:14,452 --> 00:49:16,652 No, I'm the last to see the child 930 00:49:16,654 --> 00:49:21,023 And that's not that much .. Five ten minutes. 931 00:49:21,025 --> 00:49:23,326 They look for it themselves. 932 00:49:23,328 --> 00:49:25,661 Everyone will have to have someone to blame here 933 00:49:25,663 --> 00:49:27,530 You know, and unfortunately 934 00:49:27,532 --> 00:49:31,300 The last person to see it will be the one that has blame, you know 935 00:49:31,302 --> 00:49:34,837 I mean, there are four people at the campsite that day. 936 00:49:34,839 --> 00:49:37,506 If all those people worry about it, 937 00:49:37,508 --> 00:49:40,042 Babies should go with parents 938 00:49:40,044 --> 00:49:42,678 He chose not to do it he wanted to stay with my father 939 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,213 He wants candy. 940 00:49:44,215 --> 00:49:46,949 This is a campsite where deorr and his family are camping 941 00:49:46,951 --> 00:49:48,117 Looks like your average campsite < 942 00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,519 You have a fire pit, picnic table... 943 00:49:50,521 --> 00:49:53,756 Very close to the river we have heard a lot. 944 00:49:53,758 --> 00:49:55,958 Actually, the river small only here, 945 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,360 A few meters away. 946 00:49:57,362 --> 00:49:59,462 Pay attention to the terrain down to the water 947 00:49:59,464 --> 00:50:00,796 This is very steep. 948 00:50:03,167 --> 00:50:05,534 Not me... 949 00:50:05,536 --> 00:50:08,637 I really don't know what happened to a little deorr. 950 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,172 In my heart or nothing else. 951 00:50:14,012 --> 00:50:16,178 no, I'm not. 952 00:50:17,514 --> 00:50:20,049 It's not me. 953 00:50:20,051 --> 00:50:23,285 I really don't know what happened to that child 954 00:50:25,422 --> 00:50:27,189 I'm not know how much more you need 955 00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:29,158 Will be fun to get him back 956 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,560 That's the only I can say 957 00:50:33,663 --> 00:50:37,800 We stayed there until about, you know,... 958 00:50:37,802 --> 00:50:39,301 Left red cross. 959 00:50:39,303 --> 00:50:43,406 Until the law enforcers tell us we can go home, so... 960 00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,043 and coincidence, 961 00:50:47,045 --> 00:50:49,045 Where is deorr disappears, 962 00:50:49,047 --> 00:50:50,146 Above that campsite, 963 00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,148 There is a large rock field 964 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:55,051 Extending a extraordinary distance 965 00:50:55,053 --> 00:50:56,886 And that will happen one of those areas 966 00:50:56,888 --> 00:50:58,788 That I will give looks intense. 967 00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:05,227 According to oregon state police, 968 00:51:05,229 --> 00:51:08,998 There are 41 missing children on oregon 969 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,367 One of them is samuel boehlke. 970 00:51:11,369 --> 00:51:13,402 He is eight years old When he disappears 971 00:51:13,404 --> 00:51:15,838 In the crater lake six and a half years ago. 972 00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:31,120 danau kawah ini tempat yang indah. 973 00:51:31,122 --> 00:51:32,988 First time someone saw it 974 00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:35,191 And the 100th time someone saw it, 975 00:51:35,193 --> 00:51:37,259 You said, "wow." 976 00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:42,198 This is the top of a mountain. 977 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,402 It exploded thousands of years ago, 978 00:51:47,204 --> 00:51:48,938 It was a volcanic caldera 979 00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:55,177 The water the most incredible blue you can imagine. 980 00:51:55,179 --> 00:51:56,779 tiring beautiful 981 00:51:56,781 --> 00:51:59,248 I've been there dozens of times. 982 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,716 Maybe a hundred times 983 00:52:02,185 --> 00:52:04,453 This is one of the most foreign places 984 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:07,022 That you really can imagine on earth 985 00:52:07,024 --> 00:52:08,524 Every trip is < br /> I've gone there, 986 00:52:08,526 --> 00:52:11,460 This is also different A kind of mood. 987 00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:20,035 Three two one. 988 00:52:20,037 --> 00:52:23,873 The best news about today 989 00:52:23,875 --> 00:52:25,307 br /> search and rescue business is that weather... 990 00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:28,244 This is the story also frustrating. 991 00:52:29,479 --> 00:52:32,181 Some of them just started badly and they got worse. 992 00:52:34,751 --> 00:52:37,052 The way I understand sammy & apos ; s vanished is him 993 00:52:37,054 --> 00:52:39,155 Visiting the crater lake with his father 994 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:43,726 Living in diamond lake resort 995 00:52:45,228 --> 00:52:48,697 He has some developmental problems 996 00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:49,832 Maybe some, uh... 997 00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:53,869 Some forms of autism on the scale 998 00:52:53,871 --> 00:52:55,671 When in the crater lake, 999 00:52:55,673 --> 00:53:00,576 They were near what he called cleetwood bay ignored. 1000 00:53:00,578 --> 00:53:04,346 They got about a quarter of a mile east 1001 00:53:04,348 --> 00:53:06,115 From the trail of the cove cove. 1002 00:53:06,117 --> 00:53:09,718 And they parked, and he kinda ran away. 1003 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:13,022 In some cases sammy crosses the road, and he wakes up this 1004 00:53:13,024 --> 00:53:17,092 A scree hill of the type a few pieces of rock where the road is there 1005 00:53:17,094 --> 00:53:18,661 And there a riding cyclist 1006 00:53:18,663 --> 00:53:20,796 That's already stop take a photo. 1007 00:53:20,798 --> 00:53:22,264 And sammy is getting ready, 1008 00:53:22,266 --> 00:53:24,800 Or it looks like he will be like that throwing stones at cyclists, 1009 00:53:24,802 --> 00:53:26,468 And the cyclist warned him. 1010 00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:29,138 And dad yelled sammy to come back 1011 00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:33,075 And what is sammy? just being a boy, 1012 00:53:33,077 --> 00:53:37,846 Or if there is something for to do with the condition too... 1013 00:53:37,848 --> 00:53:40,015 He runs the other way. 1014 00:53:40,017 --> 00:53:42,117 His father ran up the hill after him, 1015 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:43,919 And he's gone. 1016 00:53:52,529 --> 00:53:55,264 The weather is very cold in the crater lake 1017 00:53:55,266 --> 00:53:56,665 This time of year. 1018 00:53:56,667 --> 00:53:59,435 Maksud saya, mudah turun di bawah titik beku di malam hari. 1019 00:53:59,437 --> 00:54:04,306 So, the time is really from the core 1020 00:54:04,308 --> 00:54:07,610 So, starting from around at six o'clock, Saturday night, 1021 00:54:07,612 --> 00:54:11,480 We start putting
search to the field 1022 00:54:12,716 --> 00:54:17,219 Our first night arrived around 25 searches. 1023 00:54:17,221 --> 00:54:21,390 A combination of from foot seekers, 1024 00:54:21,392 --> 00:54:24,393 Search for dogs < br /> and tracking team. 1025 00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:26,528 That's what bases us this whole search on 1026 00:54:26,530 --> 00:54:30,833 We are looking for live sammy boehlke 1027 00:54:30,835 --> 00:54:35,271 Maybe go inside under some thick vegetation, 1028 00:54:35,273 --> 00:54:36,939 Or from a rock cliff. 1029 00:54:39,009 --> 00:54:43,779 We're really involved next the day after Sammy is gone 1030 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,615 I remember it happened a difficult search because of the weather. 1031 00:54:46,617 --> 00:54:50,252 Two feet of snow entered The next day. 1032 00:54:50,254 --> 00:54:54,590 And that park, I think so overwhelmed with 1033 00:54:54,592 --> 00:54:56,492 People started logging in 1034 00:54:56,494 --> 00:54:57,893 They set up a staging area, 1035 00:54:57,895 --> 00:55:00,262 And now they have everything from this help coming 1036 00:55:00,264 --> 00:55:01,964 To try to help and see. 1037 00:55:02,832 --> 00:55:05,834 we did limited helicopter search 1038 00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:07,469 On Saturday morning. 1039 00:55:07,471 --> 00:55:11,040 And dear, the weather has conspired against us. 1040 00:55:11,042 --> 00:55:14,476 And after about six short passes 1041 00:55:14,478 --> 00:55:17,479 Above the search area, the weather is socked in, 1042 00:55:17,481 --> 00:55:20,416 Clouds enter, rain starts blowing. 1043 00:55:20,418 --> 00:55:23,018 And we can't fly again that day 1044 00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:25,621 I believe the number that comes to mind 1045 00:55:25,623 --> 00:55:27,890 Do they have 174 people up there 1046 00:55:27,892 --> 00:55:30,059 From different searches and rescue agencies. 1047 00:55:30,061 --> 00:55:34,330 That includes searches and rescue units from neighboring countries. 1048 00:55:34,332 --> 00:55:37,066 Helicopters , dog search... 1049 00:55:39,469 --> 00:55:42,171 The terms we use are "last seen points", 1050 00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,239 And that's our reference place 1051 00:55:44,241 --> 00:55:47,076 Usually where do we start our search 1052 00:55:47,078 --> 00:55:49,678 Well, this is the area where 1053 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,915 The last Sammy was seen on Saturday. 1054 00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:56,085 The ridge behind me 1056 00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:04,593 That's where sammy < br /> Last seen by his father. 1057 00:56:11,101 --> 00:56:14,269 It looks like a national park is in a county, 1058 00:56:14,271 --> 00:56:17,473 It's really his own place sovereign. 1059 00:56:17,475 --> 00:56:20,309 And so on, we receive phone calls 1060 00:56:20,311 --> 00:56:22,644 There are missing children there 1061 00:56:22,646 --> 00:56:27,683 And we are very anxious to send search 1062 00:56:27,685 --> 00:56:30,753 We want to send investigators 1063 00:56:30,755 --> 00:56:34,723 And parks are often used their own staff, 1064 00:56:34,725 --> 00:56:36,859 Uh, initially. 1065 00:56:38,628 --> 00:56:41,597 They sometimes an island for themselves 1066 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,566 That's kinda exclusive jurisdiction 1067 00:56:47,504 --> 00:56:50,939 We are more than 400 national parks in the United States, 1068 00:56:50,941 --> 00:56:54,410 That is something we are very proud 1069 00:56:58,381 --> 00:57:02,885 National park services are units inside interior parts. 1070 00:57:02,887 --> 00:57:06,255 And inside national park services, 1071 00:57:06,257 --> 00:57:07,823 There is a director from the national park, 1072 00:57:07,825 --> 00:57:10,192 And the headquarters is in washington dc 1073 00:57:10,194 --> 00:57:13,328 And then there are areas throughout the United States 1074 00:57:13,330 --> 00:57:16,098 Where they are responsibility for 1075 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,533 Certain numbers from the park 1076 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,375 I don't remember I want... 1077 00:57:26,377 --> 00:57:28,644 I want regular briefings 1078 00:57:28,646 --> 00:57:30,512 On different things what's happening 1079 00:57:30,514 --> 00:57:34,516 There is a significant national crisis 1080 00:57:34,518 --> 00:57:37,352 Where interior secretary must know 1081 00:57:37,354 --> 00:57:39,888 There are overall agencies of 23,000 people 1082 00:57:39,890 --> 00:57:42,357 It's more involved daily activities 1083 00:57:42,359 --> 00:57:43,859 From certain people, 1084 00:57:43,861 --> 00:57:46,528 Every particular event, or a particular park. 1085 00:57:48,998 --> 00:57:52,334 As someone who has been an extraordinary person 1086 00:57:52,336 --> 00:57:53,836 My whole life, 1087 00:57:53,838 --> 00:57:56,872 It was unthinkable for me that there was no accountability 1088 00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:57,940 From our government, 1089 00:57:57,942 --> 00:57:59,708 If it's easy to be responsible, 1090 00:57:59,710 --> 00:58:01,777 Especially in this case days and ages of technology. 1091 00:58:07,517 --> 00:58:09,218 Sometimes notes saved, 1092 00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:11,620 And sometimes notes are not saved 1093 00:58:11,622 --> 00:58:14,656 There is no requirement for the federal government to 1094 00:58:14,658 --> 00:58:16,658 Keep a record of people who is missing 1095 00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:18,160 On federal land. 1096 00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:22,898 Thank you. 1097 00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:24,333 in this day and age, 1098 00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:27,703 We must collect a lot of information as we can, 1099 00:58:27,705 --> 00:58:30,706 And put it in the database it's open, 1100 00:58:30,708 --> 00:58:33,675 It's not guarded by anyone 1101 00:58:33,677 --> 00:58:37,713 If we want to help find the missing person next, 1102 00:58:37,715 --> 00:58:41,783 We can learn a lot with what went right in the previous search, 1103 00:58:41,785 --> 00:58:43,552 What's wrong in the previous search. 1104 00:58:43,554 --> 00:58:44,953 What do they have? done differently. 1105 00:58:44,955 --> 00:58:47,556 Good recording from search, 1106 00:58:47,558 --> 00:58:49,291 Whether it works or not , 1107 00:58:49,293 --> 00:58:50,959 It needs to be in hand, 1108 00:58:50,961 --> 00:58:53,662 So that later we go there, 1109 00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:57,432 The search leader can make the right decision 1110 00:58:57,434 --> 00:59:00,002 And use resources very wisely. 1111 00:59:00,004 --> 00:59:01,937 In the work I do with lost planes, 1112 00:59:01,939 --> 00:59:04,873 We always try to see on list of missing planes 1113 00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:07,876 When I am a sheriff from the klamath area, 1114 00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:11,179 I can continue a list of missing people 1115 00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,048 in minutes. 1116 00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,984 If You have that area You don't even know there is missing person. 1117 00:59:15,986 --> 00:59:19,388 If you have certain jurisdiction 1118 00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:20,789 It doesn't have that data, 1119 00:59:20,791 --> 00:59:25,394 That makes it very difficult re-investigates 1120 00:59:25,396 --> 00:59:27,062 If more information comes. 1121 00:59:27,597 --> 00:59:29,831 The fact is that if... 1122 00:59:31,034 --> 00:59:33,602 Say, park authority open about 1123 00:59:33,604 --> 00:59:36,038 How many people are missing, 1124 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,141 From national parks and public parks and wilderness areas, 1125 00:59:39,143 --> 00:59:43,679 So who of us is it will push our fears and still go there, 1126 00:59:43,681 --> 00:59:46,014 We can get out more protected 1127 00:59:46,016 --> 00:59:47,716 That's what I think about the authorities have to do it 1128 00:59:47,718 --> 00:59:50,018 I think they should come clean and say, "here it is information. 1129 00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:50,953 Now you know. 1130 00:59:50,955 --> 00:59:52,120 We don't know what happened, 1131 00:59:52,122 --> 00:59:54,122 But at least it should be protect yourself. 1132 01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,735 it's clear a mystery that hasn't been solved 1133 01:00:06,737 --> 01:00:09,504 Um, that's one of them < br /> things that... 1134 01:00:09,506 --> 01:00:11,573 You kind of took it behind your mind 1135 01:00:11,575 --> 01:00:13,809 Every time you go and visit the crater lake 1136 01:00:13,811 --> 01:00:15,444 I mean, it's a tourist destination. 1137 01:00:15,446 --> 01:00:17,012 This is a fun place to be. 1138 01:00:17,014 --> 01:00:19,414 But you go there and you think 1139 01:00:19,416 --> 01:00:22,918 This is a beautiful place, But it's not without tragedy. 1140 01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:26,722 The strongest theory? Meanwhile, there are many... 1141 01:00:26,724 --> 01:00:31,560 Theory strongest is that He is in that forest somehow, 1142 01:00:31,562 --> 01:00:34,296 And he might, in my opinion, 1143 01:00:34,298 --> 01:00:35,697 Covered by snow, 1144 01:00:35,699 --> 01:00:39,801 And then, it might be animal sacrifice later. 1145 01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:44,840 I believe that when a child is lost, 1146 01:00:44,842 --> 01:00:49,044 That you discard any resources you have initially. 1147 01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:52,748 And I really want it have see that happen 1148 01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:54,783 with sammy that night. 1149 01:01:01,357 --> 01:01:03,158 This is the end of the first month, 1150 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,528 And the search two years deorr kunz jr. Continues. 1151 01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:08,997 Many believe that deorr is not on that mountain 1152 01:01:08,999 --> 01:01:11,333 Search and save and all city residents, 1153 01:01:11,335 --> 01:01:12,534 Everyone goes there. 1154 01:01:12,536 --> 01:01:13,969 Everyone goes there. 1155 01:01:13,971 --> 01:01:16,405 There have been a lot of people there seeing Many. 1156 01:01:16,407 --> 01:01:17,673 Many people. 1157 01:01:17,675 --> 01:01:19,808 Even after the search was done, 1158 01:01:19,810 --> 01:01:21,043 Sudah ada orang. 1159 01:01:21,045 --> 01:01:23,311 I think he will do it Has been found if he is... 1160 01:01:23,313 --> 01:01:25,380 Isn't it? 1161 01:01:25,382 --> 01:01:29,051 Some people have mentioned it other people who live in the lemhi area. 1162 01:01:29,053 --> 01:01:31,319 There is a woman who ran a restaurant there 1163 01:01:31,321 --> 01:01:34,022 Some people say it he might have been involved 1164 01:01:34,024 --> 01:01:36,591 mother and father know that the baby is dead, 1165 01:01:36,593 --> 01:01:38,326 So they say, "please help us." 1166 01:01:38,328 --> 01:01:41,129 They pay $ 1,000 < br /> to throw away the body 1167 01:01:41,131 --> 01:01:42,564 The police have cleaned it. 1168 01:01:42,566 --> 01:01:44,800 There... I mean, there are So many theories are out there. 1169 01:01:44,802 --> 01:01:46,201 People - people, you know, owe... 1170 01:01:46,203 --> 01:01:48,303 You know, parents do it something for him 1171 01:01:48,305 --> 01:01:49,771 Or it's an accident. 1172 01:01:49,773 --> 01:01:51,673 They say child it's up there to use it as a ruse 1173 01:01:51,675 --> 01:01:53,842 Saying he's gone. 1174 01:01:53,844 --> 01:01:55,544 But he's never been up there starting with. 1175 01:01:55,546 --> 01:01:56,778 Oh, he's there. 1176 01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:59,781 I've seen him try playing on a campfire 1177 01:01:59,783 --> 01:02:01,650 He's playing with his father. 1178 01:02:01,652 --> 01:02:05,220 Some people say there are sex offenders who live in city, 1179 01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:07,522 And maybe they know this Boys are up there, 1180 01:02:07,524 --> 01:02:10,926 So they fabricated this plan to go there and take it. 1181 01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:14,863 We think more like someone kidnapped him 1182 01:02:14,865 --> 01:02:16,698 They followed him back to the door 1183 01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:20,168 And caught me when I didn't look at and grab it. 1184 01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:23,772 I've heard everything "big feet take deorr," 1185 01:02:23,774 --> 01:02:25,273 For maybe a truck driver lift him 1186 01:02:25,275 --> 01:02:28,477 Maybe he's a child sex slave in Canada 1187 01:02:29,879 --> 01:02:32,214 Many facebook groups have been formed 1188 01:02:32,216 --> 01:02:35,951 Anytime, whatever updates on deorr are out, 1189 01:02:35,953 --> 01:02:39,387 They will post the link and one hundred people will comment. 1190 01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,160 there may be a dozen different 1191 01:02:45,162 --> 01:02:47,462 Facebook pages out there that people have started 1192 01:02:47,464 --> 01:02:51,299 And there are many that it's positive support for the family, 1193 01:02:51,301 --> 01:02:54,402 But there are many it's just cursing 1194 01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:57,973 Called them murderers, they say < br /> negligent parents 1195 01:02:57,975 --> 01:03:00,075 That should never be have children. 1196 01:03:01,911 --> 01:03:04,746 Social media has a positive side, 1197 01:03:04,748 --> 01:03:06,782 But the downside is terrible too. 1198 01:03:06,784 --> 01:03:09,985 People jump to conclusions, spread rumors. 1199 01:03:09,987 --> 01:03:13,922 And that only complicates more sadness. 1200 01:03:13,924 --> 01:03:16,158 Parents have to defend themselves 1201 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,927 At the same time as they try to grieve, 1202 01:03:18,929 --> 01:03:22,998 And try to wrap it up arms around the fact that their child is missing 1203 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,333 family already accused of using drugs, 1204 01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:28,436 And sleeping with certain people. 1205 01:03:28,438 --> 01:03:31,973 Everything from their appearance, for their attitude, 1206 01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:33,642 How they talk 1207 01:03:33,644 --> 01:03:36,545 the facts, I even told them, Stay away from social media. 1208 01:03:36,547 --> 01:03:38,580 I say, you want
broadcast media, 1209 01:03:38,582 --> 01:03:40,849 Print media to is on your side 1210 01:03:40,851 --> 01:03:42,717 Whatever comes out, 1211 01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:45,287 Social media might misinterpret it 1212 01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:47,255 And say a few things cruel or incorrect 1213 01:03:47,257 --> 01:03:48,723 But don't even pay pay attention to them 1214 01:03:48,725 --> 01:03:52,060 And maybe people have < be fixated on this case, 1215 01:03:52,062 --> 01:03:54,095 And they crave something. 1216 01:03:54,097 --> 01:03:56,331 They want some kind of news nugget, 1217 01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:57,399 Or new information. 1218 01:03:57,401 --> 01:04:00,035 And when they don't get it, they speculate. 1219 01:04:00,037 --> 01:04:03,104 And then it spreads, and you can't control it. 1220 01:04:33,636 --> 01:04:35,637 every time someone will come 1221 01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:37,405 Who is part of the media, 1222 01:04:37,407 --> 01:04:40,408 They will say, "what's empty are they here? 1223 01:04:40,977 --> 01:04:42,477 Why are they here?" 1224 01:04:42,479 --> 01:04:45,513 And it annoys me why they don't want coverage 1225 01:04:45,515 --> 01:04:48,116 I know that they are offered Affection for one hour. 1226 01:04:48,118 --> 01:04:50,051 Good morning America call them, 1227 01:04:50,053 --> 01:04:51,920 And they don't want to go. 1228 01:04:51,922 --> 01:04:54,322 That can only help. It doesn't hurt. 1229 01:04:55,358 --> 01:04:57,158 And at this point, 1230 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,129 After his face is plastered everywhere is how we will find it. 1231 01:05:01,131 --> 01:05:02,998 You know, every time someone goes to walmart, 1232 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,467 Wherever they are, or get out of their car, 1233 01:05:05,469 --> 01:05:08,303 I want to face deorr have in their minds 1234 01:05:19,348 --> 01:05:22,484 I don't know any manual
about how you should act 1235 01:05:22,486 --> 01:05:24,386 If your child is lost. 1236 01:05:24,388 --> 01:05:27,188 You know, so, um... 1237 01:05:28,691 --> 01:05:32,060 This is very stressful for them . 1238 01:05:32,062 --> 01:05:34,462 And then, when you have people, 1239 01:05:35,698 --> 01:05:38,266 you know, try make assumptions 1240 01:05:38,268 --> 01:05:41,770 and assess without
Lots of information, 1241 01:05:41,772 --> 01:05:43,505 This must be very difficult. 1242 01:05:48,411 --> 01:05:50,011 hi, this is Jessica 1243 01:05:50,013 --> 01:05:51,813 Leave me a message and I'll be back to you soon. 1244 01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:56,851 I asked the supervisor why he was so panicked at me 1245 01:05:56,853 --> 01:05:58,253 When you say it's okay. 1246 01:05:58,255 --> 01:06:00,689 He said, "I told jess and He didn't like the idea." 1247 01:06:02,725 --> 01:06:04,759 This is the weirdest the case I've worked 1248 01:06:04,761 --> 01:06:08,396 All others, they begged television coverage. 1249 01:06:08,398 --> 01:06:11,132 They requested radio coverage, coverage newspaper 1250 01:06:11,134 --> 01:06:12,300 They begged for this. 1251 01:06:12,302 --> 01:06:13,768 That's what is so strange. 1252 01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:15,637 Why do they act like this? 1253 01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:17,172 Are they hide something? 1254 01:06:17,174 --> 01:06:19,607 That - doesn't matter. 1255 01:06:19,609 --> 01:06:21,543 It doesn't matter who thinks you're a murderer 1256 01:06:21,545 --> 01:06:24,479 It doesn't matter who thinks /> You do what for your child. 1257 01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:27,315 It's important that we need to find your child 1258 01:06:32,555 --> 01:06:35,457 basically I was told them in writing 1259 01:06:35,459 --> 01:06:38,159 That's because they don't do it want to work with 1260 01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:41,062 Broadcast media or print media 1261 01:06:41,064 --> 01:06:42,964 That I will back off from this case 1262 01:06:42,966 --> 01:06:46,334 And I withdraw my $ 20,000 offer a prize 1263 01:06:47,136 --> 01:06:49,571 One of them doesn't really care 1264 01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:53,074 Others say, "thank you for giving up to our child." 1265 01:06:53,709 --> 01:06:55,643 Brantley. Brantley. 1266 01:06:56,245 --> 01:06:58,046 -Kemari. -See mother 1267 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:01,182 Oh! I have that boy. 1268 01:07:04,086 --> 01:07:05,820 What did you buy mama 1269 01:07:05,822 --> 01:07:07,455 Do you watch on youtube 1270 01:07:08,557 --> 01:07:09,958 He's not someone. 1271 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,227 He's like... Oh, look. 1272 01:07:12,229 --> 01:07:14,596 Yes? Will you tell them, mm? 1273 01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:18,133 Anything for you. 1274 01:07:19,935 --> 01:07:22,670 Like I said... They just... They... 1275 01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:24,439 I don't know 1276 01:07:24,441 --> 01:07:26,775 I think they overcame it. With that it's different, 1277 01:07:26,777 --> 01:07:28,076 And maybe they have different ideas 1278 01:07:28,078 --> 01:07:30,645 What a great idea to help? find their child 1279 01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:36,084 - is that them? 1280 01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:39,354 That's deorr. 1281 01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:48,563 Is that happening? 1282 01:07:53,169 --> 01:07:54,536 Dude, man I call... 1283 01:07:54,538 --> 01:07:57,205 You don't do it anything, I know 1284 01:07:57,706 --> 01:07:58,840 You're fine. 1285 01:07:58,842 --> 01:08:01,443 - I just want to help - You're fine. 1286 01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:02,811 She's fair go through shit 1287 01:09:08,344 --> 01:09:10,578 I'm edna, mother keith 1288 01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:14,983 I visited my parents in ritter, oregon, 1289 01:09:14,985 --> 01:09:19,154 And that was Easter time, Easter came early that year. 1290 01:09:19,156 --> 01:09:21,356 So there was snow in over the land. 1291 01:09:21,358 --> 01:09:23,525 Snow patches on the ground 1292 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,061 That is cattle, cattle area 1293 01:09:27,063 --> 01:09:30,532 And my parents is a farmer. 1294 01:09:30,534 --> 01:09:33,635 And the neighbor is pretty much too 1295 01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,241 He is a happy child, a very happy child 1296 01:09:44,213 --> 01:09:47,715 He and his older brother go to the warehouse 1297 01:09:47,717 --> 01:09:49,350 To see the new calf. 1298 01:09:50,786 --> 01:09:52,320 And that is lunch time. 1299 01:09:52,322 --> 01:09:55,757 So I call a boy and more old come, 1300 01:09:55,759 --> 01:09:57,659 And no keith. 1301 01:09:59,028 --> 01:10:00,662 So I said, "where is your sister?" 1302 01:10:00,664 --> 01:10:02,463 He said, "Oh, he went < br /> around the warehouse. " 1303 01:10:02,465 --> 01:10:05,800 So, we went looking for it, 1304 01:10:06,669 --> 01:10:08,203 And he wasn't there. 1305 01:10:10,773 --> 01:10:13,641 We can start the search soon for him 1306 01:10:13,643 --> 01:10:16,945 It was a long time before search and rescue was set 1307 01:10:16,947 --> 01:10:17,912 As of now, 1308 01:10:17,914 --> 01:10:23,284 So they left in talking distance with each other 1309 01:10:23,286 --> 01:10:26,221 So that's right able to communicate 1310 01:10:26,223 --> 01:10:27,889 Everyone is amazing. 1311 01:10:27,891 --> 01:10:30,725 We feel there is around 200 people there. 1312 01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:34,762 And they searched for night 1313 01:10:39,835 --> 01:10:41,369 I don't know until a long time later 1314 01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:44,072 That he had passed this was cattle. 1315 01:10:44,074 --> 01:10:45,873 But they found their footprints. 1316 01:10:53,282 --> 01:10:54,515 even like a flying crow, 1317 01:10:54,517 --> 01:10:56,251 His journey from his house 1318 01:10:56,253 --> 01:10:58,086 Where his trail was found, 1319 01:10:58,088 --> 01:10:59,854 Is three miles. 1320 01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:03,691 And then, his body is found far here 1321 01:11:04,026 --> 01:11:05,960 Five miles away. 1322 01:11:05,962 --> 01:11:07,362 Eight miles in total. 1323 01:11:08,464 --> 01:11:10,131 He is also stiff. 1324 01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:12,567 His tiny body can't move 1325 01:11:12,569 --> 01:11:16,004 He was found bowing down in the snow, and... 1326 01:11:16,006 --> 01:11:19,474 His tiny face was scratched so bad when we found him . 1327 01:11:22,378 --> 01:11:25,179 It's lunch time when he's gone. 1328 01:11:25,181 --> 01:11:28,216 And this is about seven o'clock the next morning 1329 01:11:28,218 --> 01:11:29,684 When he was found. 1330 01:11:33,589 --> 01:11:36,057 eight miles. That's like a flying crow. 1331 01:11:36,059 --> 01:11:39,594 It's impossible to walk here as crows will fly. 1332 01:11:40,596 --> 01:11:43,264 In the span of less than 24 hours, 1333 01:11:43,266 --> 01:11:45,500 You have to believe it this two-year-old child 1334 01:11:45,502 --> 01:11:48,069 may be as much as as twelve miles. 1335 01:11:53,576 --> 01:11:55,243 Like that... 1336 01:11:55,245 --> 01:11:58,079 His clothes were found torn, 1337 01:11:59,248 --> 01:12:02,517 And we thought it might be from the fence of lights. 1338 01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,819 Either through them or below them 1339 01:12:13,195 --> 01:12:16,364 And even with months full moon tonight 1340 01:12:16,366 --> 01:12:19,500 I can't see anything past this bush 1341 01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:21,769 So if I a two-year-old child, 1342 01:12:21,771 --> 01:12:24,572 And I have to walk through this, or crawl through this, 1343 01:12:24,574 --> 01:12:26,040 I got to tonight's time... 1344 01:12:27,076 --> 01:12:29,277 I can't see keith go anywhere 1345 01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:30,812 I can't go anywhere. 1346 01:12:32,281 --> 01:12:35,683 How can a two-year-old child be traveling 1347 01:12:35,685 --> 01:12:38,720 Topography I'm traveling now... 1348 01:12:38,722 --> 01:12:44,625 Little shoes and that temperature frozen 1349 01:12:44,627 --> 01:12:46,761 Even if he is still small full of energy. 1350 01:12:53,302 --> 01:12:56,604 This is about the area searchers find it. 1351 01:12:56,606 --> 01:13:00,908 His father is about < 100 yards like that. 1352 01:13:02,511 --> 01:13:04,112 And he's found here. 1353 01:13:04,813 --> 01:13:06,381 Facing down in the snow. 1354 01:13:06,383 --> 01:13:08,816 The hat and coat next to it. 1355 01:13:08,818 --> 01:13:11,853 Seekers find it. Father one, maybe 200 meters away 1357 01:13:15,190 --> 01:13:16,591 And he lives. 1358 01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:31,239 For years, On ritter area, 1359 01:13:31,241 --> 01:13:32,740 When we go visit there, 1360 01:13:32,742 --> 01:13:34,375 Someone will do it come visit and say, 1361 01:13:34,377 --> 01:13:37,145 "oh, yeah, I remember we searched for you 1362 01:13:37,147 --> 01:13:38,679 Fortunately you were found. " 1363 01:13:38,681 --> 01:13:40,948 And I will say," oh, that's great and thank you for seeing. " 1364 01:13:45,654 --> 01:13:48,356 This is the hat I'm wearing. 1366 01:13:51,628 --> 01:13:54,295 This is my little hat. 1367 01:13:54,297 --> 01:13:57,231 And here it is one of my shoes 1368 01:13:57,233 --> 01:14:00,468 That's what I go through. 1369 01:14:00,470 --> 01:14:03,738 This is my jacket I took me 1370 01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,706 I took it off whatever the reason, 1371 01:14:05,708 --> 01:14:10,745 And I brought my hat On my jacket, in my hand, 1372 01:14:10,747 --> 01:14:15,383 I was with me like me laying eggs on the ground. 1373 01:14:15,385 --> 01:14:17,819 I have it in my hand. 1374 01:14:17,821 --> 01:14:21,088 This is my shirt that I have 1375 01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:28,095 And then, like what you see, in my bib overalls, 1376 01:14:28,097 --> 01:14:30,298 You can see tears 1377 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,800 At the place I caught it on the fence, 1378 01:14:32,802 --> 01:14:34,802 Trying to pass it a fence and so on. 1379 01:14:35,537 --> 01:14:38,239 And it rips... 1380 01:14:38,241 --> 01:14:40,508 And catch... I got tears in the back 1381 01:14:40,510 --> 01:14:42,143 Where are the barbwires catching it 1383 01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:45,980 Tearing it 1384 01:14:46,949 --> 01:14:49,584 That is his clothes my mother continues 1385 01:14:50,252 --> 01:14:52,220 For many years. 1386 01:14:56,725 --> 01:14:58,593 we only never gave up hope 1387 01:14:58,595 --> 01:15:02,497 and he was found. 1388 01:15:04,033 --> 01:15:08,169 Even though you have suffered frostbite in your hand and feet, 1389 01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:11,506 We are very lucky that he was found when he was. 1390 01:15:15,644 --> 01:15:17,678 We are not ever made a big problem From him getting lost, 1395 01:15:28,590 --> 01:15:30,625 There were no nightmares about that at all 1396 01:15:30,627 --> 01:15:34,095 I didn't remember anything at all about that 1397 01:15:34,097 --> 01:15:36,731 They asked what happened and I told them that I didn't know. 1398 01:15:36,733 --> 01:15:38,666 I don't know what happened and they asked me 1399 01:15:38,668 --> 01:15:43,671 I have enough scratches on my face and hands. 1400 01:15:43,673 --> 01:15:47,341 Someone asks how is it I got it and I told them The cat scratched me. 1401 01:15:47,343 --> 01:15:49,644 So, I don't remember 1402 01:15:49,646 --> 01:15:52,179 From what happened to me. 1404 01:15:51,001 --> 01:16:01,188 Nothing I can put my finger on 1405 01:16:01,190 --> 01:16:03,691 Normal a set of conditions in the wilderness 1406 01:16:03,693 --> 01:16:05,793 Makes sense for any of these cases 1407 01:16:05,795 --> 01:16:08,195 That is something else. 1408 01:16:19,074 --> 01:16:20,541 very calm now 1409 01:16:20,543 --> 01:16:25,746 You get all kinds of small the motorbike sounds come get out of there from him, 1410 01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:28,282 And he's fair with his car 1411 01:16:28,284 --> 01:16:29,884 This is very quiet. 1412 01:16:29,886 --> 01:16:32,587 you usually step on the hot wheel, 1413 01:16:33,121 --> 01:16:34,789 or legos, or whatever. 1414 01:16:34,791 --> 01:16:36,457 the whole house is the same way 1415 01:16:36,459 --> 01:16:37,925 The whole house is now very quiet 1416 01:16:37,927 --> 01:16:41,028 It's just... Not at home. 1417 01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:43,998 You go with it from day to day hope you can get your life back 1418 01:16:44,633 --> 01:16:46,767 Hope he's fine, because 1419 01:16:47,235 --> 01:16:48,603 This isn't 1420 01:16:49,538 --> 01:16:51,072 This sucks 1421 01:17:01,416 --> 01:17:03,217 little people. 1422 01:17:09,391 --> 01:17:12,793 Every day I'm happy, because I have to spend it with him. 1423 01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:16,130 I can go to work and take him to work with me < 1424 01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:18,165 And still have then with him. 1425 01:17:18,167 --> 01:17:20,301 And then, we go home and make dinner 1426 01:17:20,303 --> 01:17:22,803 And give him a shower , 1427 01:17:22,805 --> 01:17:24,438 And install jammies on, 1428 01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,340 And watch small tv and play, 1429 01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:29,510 And then read him a story or sing him a song 1430 01:17:29,512 --> 01:17:30,978 To make him fall asleep, 1431 01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:32,780 And give him ten million hugs 1432 01:17:32,782 --> 01:17:35,449 Before I can leave the room. 1433 01:17:35,451 --> 01:17:39,053 And I miss those days. 1434 01:17:41,023 --> 01:17:42,023 Lots. 1435 01:17:50,499 --> 01:17:53,367 Um, what is that? 1436 01:17:53,369 --> 01:17:54,869 p> 1437 01:17:54,871 --> 01:17:56,203 -About a month? -Three... 1438 01:17:56,205 --> 01:17:58,406 Yeah, it's like a month. 1439 01:17:58,408 --> 01:18:00,307 three weeks to a month after he lost 1440 01:18:00,309 --> 01:18:03,210 Is it when they brought fbi at 1441 01:18:03,212 --> 01:18:04,679 Fbi originally called lemhi county and said, 1442 01:18:04,681 --> 01:18:06,580 "We heard about this case. 1443 01:18:06,582 --> 01:18:08,049 Do you need any help 1444 01:18:08,051 --> 01:18:10,851 We will help you out. " 1445 01:18:10,853 --> 01:18:14,121 And they say, " yes, can you handle , like, 1446 01:18:14,123 --> 01:18:15,756 directly from him showing you inside the truck. 1447 01:18:15,758 --> 01:18:17,124 This is an old battering truck. 1448 01:18:17,126 --> 01:18:19,794 There's still light, dome lights 1449 01:18:19,796 --> 01:18:22,997 It was covered with fbi record evidence 1450 01:18:22,999 --> 01:18:24,699 That one thing they hadn't recorded. 1451 01:18:24,701 --> 01:18:26,400 So he let them wipe their truck 1452 01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:30,171 We were told that a report had to go in and out six to eight weeks 1453 01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:32,540 And we were an eight-week sign now, 1454 01:18:32,542 --> 01:18:34,275 With still no answer. 1455 01:18:34,277 --> 01:18:38,245 They come up with anything some kind of theory, or any hypothesis 1456 01:18:38,247 --> 01:18:40,448 What can you have happens with deorr kunz 1457 01:18:40,450 --> 01:18:43,818 We want them to return and let's say we have reasons to believe 1458 01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:46,253 Because of this and this that he was kidnapped. 1459 01:18:46,255 --> 01:18:47,788 So we are now... 1460 01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:51,192 We see this individual. We are looking here... We are currently... 1461 01:18:51,194 --> 01:18:53,094 This gives us more direction to enter 1462 01:18:53,096 --> 01:18:55,062 Some people, like, They are afraid of fbi. 1463 01:18:55,064 --> 01:18:57,631 No, not us. I have nothing to hide. 1464 01:18:57,633 --> 01:18:59,934 I don't have-- I didn't make a mistake. 1465 01:19:03,371 --> 01:19:06,040 Bob issac's friend stayed in his own camp. 1466 01:19:06,042 --> 01:19:07,508 Bob lives in the camp. 1467 01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:10,745 Jessica, me and a little deorr living in the suburbs of bob. 1468 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,247 I came out of the suburbs that morning 1469 01:19:13,249 --> 01:19:15,616 And they really were... He and my son 1471 01:19:17,019 --> 01:19:19,820 And they only get ready to start breakfast 1473 01:19:23,059 --> 01:19:25,259 He and the issac will go fishing. 1474 01:19:25,261 --> 01:19:27,161 And I said we would do it go to leadore, 1475 01:19:27,163 --> 01:19:29,096 Get some things and we will come back. 1476 01:19:29,098 --> 01:19:32,032 And he said, "alright, come back here at 1:00 if you can." 1477 01:19:33,902 --> 01:19:36,537 Get our groceries and jessica go to the restroom 1478 01:19:36,539 --> 01:19:38,639 I put a little deorr into it truck with groceries, 1479 01:19:38,641 --> 01:19:41,041 And he came out and we return to the top 1480 01:19:41,676 --> 01:19:43,878 This is 45 minutes. 1481 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,514 And bob and issac only back to camp, 1482 01:19:46,516 --> 01:19:50,684 Because they are fishing down the river correctly where we camp 1483 01:19:50,686 --> 01:19:53,287 Dan jessica has a little deorr out 1484 01:19:57,225 --> 01:20:00,094 and we park where 1485 01:20:01,696 --> 01:20:04,498 My grandfather is sitting a chair here 1486 01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:08,435 And we have our double seat right about here 1487 01:20:10,105 --> 01:20:13,607 And I hand over my grandfather The candy we bought him. 1488 01:20:13,609 --> 01:20:16,777 Issac and my grandfather talk about how they went fishing 1489 01:20:16,779 --> 01:20:18,946 On the river and catching fish. 1490 01:20:18,948 --> 01:20:21,816 Just down... Until there. 1491 01:20:21,818 --> 01:20:25,619 And we decide we will go up and 1492 01:20:25,621 --> 01:20:28,255 Look to see if there are fish in the creek 1493 01:20:28,257 --> 01:20:30,357 After that was decided We will go there, 1494 01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:34,929 I ask my grandfather if it's okay if we can Let the little guy with him. 1495 01:20:34,931 --> 01:20:36,964 Dan he said, "yes, he's fine. 1496 01:20:38,433 --> 01:20:40,034 He wants sweets." 1497 01:20:40,036 --> 01:20:42,736 And he's ready Because of taking a nap, anyway, 1498 01:20:42,738 --> 01:20:44,972 And you can know him being very tired 1499 01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:46,874 Se we will go he is with bob, 1500 01:20:46,876 --> 01:20:49,109 Instead of making it walking and all that. 1501 01:20:49,111 --> 01:20:51,111 So we go up this path here 1502 01:20:51,113 --> 01:20:53,547 Right where it is smaller trees are 1503 01:20:53,549 --> 01:20:56,717 We stop and realize it Little people follow us. 1505 01:20:58,754 --> 01:21:01,555 "Do you want to go together us, or do you want to stay with bob's grandfather? " 1506 01:21:01,557 --> 01:21:03,991 And he said," no, yes. " 1507 01:21:03,993 --> 01:21:07,228 And turned and started
walk back to my grandfather 1508 01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:11,398 So we realized he would do it go back to camp with my grandfather, 1509 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,502 I thought he was with my grandfather, he alright. 1510 01:21:17,806 --> 01:21:20,207 And we walked to the creek, 1511 01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:23,143 Dan issac said, "here, here we are 1512 01:21:23,145 --> 01:21:25,679 Being fishing and catching fish. " 1513 01:21:25,681 --> 01:21:30,084 And he turns around and walks back towards this road. 1514 01:21:30,086 --> 01:21:33,487 Deorr and I'm awake by river and just a little 1515 01:21:33,489 --> 01:21:38,859 Looks at the water and looks to see if we can see any fish 1516 01:21:38,861 --> 01:21:41,128 I started getting me fishing gear ready, 1517 01:21:41,130 --> 01:21:44,031 Because I think this is good a good place for fishing. 1518 01:21:44,033 --> 01:21:47,134 And there is one place that has small fish in it. 1519 01:21:47,136 --> 01:21:48,335 And that's right just stuck there 1520 01:21:48,337 --> 01:21:49,937 They can't get out from a low level. 1521 01:21:49,939 --> 01:21:52,473 And I thought, "Lord, this will happen be neat for him to see." 1522 01:21:53,642 --> 01:21:54,875 Jessica lives in the creek, 1523 01:21:54,877 --> 01:21:56,410 And I walk to the bank 1524 01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:58,879 And go back to the bank and go to the campsite 1525 01:21:58,881 --> 01:22:00,881 And I shout for bob where is a little deorr 1526 01:22:00,883 --> 01:22:05,119 I can hear voices in the camping area. 1527 01:22:05,121 --> 01:22:06,887 And you can actually, where am I stand now, 1528 01:22:06,889 --> 01:22:08,923 You can really see a table, 1529 01:22:08,925 --> 01:22:11,659 The picnic table at our campsite 1530 01:22:11,661 --> 01:22:14,128 But I can hear deor's voice. 1531 01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:15,896 I don't understand what he said 1532 01:22:15,898 --> 01:22:17,231 I shouted at him, "where is my child?" 1533 01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:18,866 And he said, "I don't know. " 1534 01:22:18,868 --> 01:22:21,368 And I said, " bob, where is my child? " 1535 01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:24,104 And he said," he went up like that to you. " 1536 01:22:24,106 --> 01:22:28,075 I saw someone walking 1537 01:22:28,077 --> 01:22:30,210 Between these trees here. 1538 01:22:30,212 --> 01:22:32,012 Realizing that it is issac, 1539 01:22:32,014 --> 01:22:33,747 With goods- fishing item in his hand 1540 01:22:33,749 --> 01:22:35,983 And he's walking towards the creek. 1541 01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:37,084 And then, at that time, 1542 01:22:37,086 --> 01:22:39,053 I see back to the creek for splits, 1543 01:22:39,055 --> 01:22:41,689 Like, maybe ten seconds. 1544 01:22:41,691 --> 01:22:43,624 And at that moment, I heard deorr shouting. 1545 01:22:43,626 --> 01:22:45,426 And I turned around and looked 1546 01:22:45,428 --> 01:22:46,760 Directly in front of me, 1547 01:22:46,762 --> 01:22:49,029 And he's there, saying... 1548 01:22:49,031 --> 01:22:51,165 "The little guy has gone away. He's not at the camp. 1549 01:22:51,167 --> 01:22:52,533 We can't find him." 1550 01:22:52,535 --> 01:22:54,501 We came this way, 1551 01:22:54,503 --> 01:22:56,337 Asking where my grandfather... 1552 01:22:56,339 --> 01:22:59,473 Where did he go The last time he saw it. 1553 01:22:59,475 --> 01:23:01,775 And he saw it right next to it the pine tree, 1554 01:23:01,777 --> 01:23:02,977 Kinda sat down. 1555 01:23:02,979 --> 01:23:05,212 He said he was good playing with shit, 1556 01:23:05,214 --> 01:23:07,614 Or playing with his shoes. 1557 01:23:10,385 --> 01:23:13,754 I once knew he was missing, it was like, 1558 01:23:13,756 --> 01:23:15,489 What really panicked me 1559 01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:18,292 Is it, like, I didn't want him to sink 1560 01:23:18,294 --> 01:23:21,562 he wasn't camping, he wasn't right in this area 1561 01:23:21,564 --> 01:23:23,230 And he starts looking by the river, 1562 01:23:23,232 --> 01:23:25,199 And I wake up and walk. 1563 01:23:25,201 --> 01:23:28,302 We searched about 20 minutes or more. 1564 01:23:28,304 --> 01:23:29,937 And I didn't hear it. I'm not... 1565 01:23:29,939 --> 01:23:31,538 We panicked, we didn't hear it 1566 01:23:31,540 --> 01:23:35,009 So we decided we needed it
to call, call search and rescue 1567 01:23:36,378 --> 01:23:39,747 A lot of what happened just doesn't make sense 1568 01:23:39,749 --> 01:23:43,150 Because he must have been... I thought he must have screamed, 1569 01:23:43,152 --> 01:23:45,152 Or trying to say, "mama." 1570 01:23:45,154 --> 01:23:47,988 When he is missing, 1571 01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:50,257 It's raining and then it's really hot 1572 01:23:50,259 --> 01:23:53,060 So he must have taken it his jacket is dead 1573 01:23:53,062 --> 01:23:56,030 And we found nothing. The place was excavated. 1574 01:23:56,032 --> 01:23:59,800 The only thing I'm sure of is Jessica that day with me 1575 01:23:59,802 --> 01:24:01,335 He's with me and I'm with him. 1576 01:24:01,337 --> 01:24:03,170 So it's the only thing I'm sure of that 1577 01:24:03,172 --> 01:24:05,072 He has nothing to do with that, I have nothing to do with that. 1578 01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,673 Because we are together with each other. 1579 01:24:08,109 --> 01:24:10,010 And I'm looking at the river, 1580 01:24:10,012 --> 01:24:12,713 And in in the water all the time until 1581 01:24:12,715 --> 01:24:17,451 Ray, um, Stevens gets here with search and rescue. 1582 01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:21,655 And he asks me to come and sit in the campsite. 1583 01:24:24,459 --> 01:24:27,061 That's as a parent one of the hardest things 1584 01:24:27,063 --> 01:24:29,363 If you have all this the professional who tells you 1585 01:24:29,365 --> 01:24:31,265 Stay in camp, and they have a reason for that 1586 01:24:31,267 --> 01:24:34,168 Because if they find... If they find my child, 1587 01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:36,437 Lalu mereka harus pergi mencari saya. 1588 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:37,504 And... 1589 01:24:37,506 --> 01:24:39,873 Or they don't want us to react, you know, 1590 01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:42,309 And go after someone what we thought 1591 01:24:42,311 --> 01:24:43,677 It has something to do with it. 1592 01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:45,312 When your child is gone, 1593 01:24:45,314 --> 01:24:48,082 You are number one suspect 1594 01:24:48,084 --> 01:24:49,516 This is sad, but it's true. 1595 01:24:51,352 --> 01:24:54,188 You have a grieving parent , 1596 01:24:54,190 --> 01:24:55,756 And you know, you have passed 1597 01:24:55,758 --> 01:24:58,725 It's really the most alive hell < br /> Parents can think about it. 1598 01:24:58,727 --> 01:25:01,428 And you connect to the machine and... 1599 01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:03,097 The fact is... 1600 01:25:03,099 --> 01:25:05,632 Difficult. < br /> No problem, 1601 01:25:05,634 --> 01:25:07,468 But they are called... 1602 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:09,736 Something passed 1603 01:25:10,872 --> 01:25:12,573 Passed unconvincingly 1604 01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:15,909 You are afraid to die, You are upset, you... 1605 01:25:15,911 --> 01:25:17,444 Afraid of your child, 1606 01:25:17,446 --> 01:25:19,680 You are afraid of your family. You... 1607 01:25:19,682 --> 01:25:21,648 Your mind comes in a million different directions. 1608 01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:23,817 -And no one has ever... -Nothing makes sense. 1609 01:25:23,819 --> 01:25:26,687 But You don't get the answer out of one direction you will enter 1610 01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:29,123 So, you are connected to the machine like that, 1611 01:25:29,125 --> 01:25:31,959 And everyone think, "Link them to the polygraph." continue. 1612 01:25:31,961 --> 01:25:33,327 Go ahead. I have nothing to hide. 1613 01:25:33,329 --> 01:25:36,597 But know it's actually not very useful 1614 01:25:40,768 --> 01:25:43,670 well, we still have missing children 1615 01:25:46,407 --> 01:25:48,408 You know, I believe he's still outside there 1616 01:25:48,410 --> 01:25:50,477 We haven't found it yet. 1617 01:25:54,048 --> 01:25:56,383 You know, everyone wants an answer 1618 01:25:57,418 --> 01:25:59,887 Hopefully one day we can come with one 1619 01:26:07,929 --> 01:26:09,396 working on a documentary 1620 01:26:09,398 --> 01:26:11,965 About a child missing on leadore 1621 01:26:13,969 --> 01:26:15,169 Do you know about this case? 1622 01:26:29,284 --> 01:26:32,085 Everything I say, and not care what I do, 1623 01:26:32,087 --> 01:26:34,588 You are dammed if you do it, dammed if not 1624 01:26:34,590 --> 01:26:36,390 I don't want... 1625 01:26:36,392 --> 01:26:38,859 I want media < br /> to be my child, 1626 01:26:38,861 --> 01:26:40,394 Not to me, not to Jessica. 1627 01:26:40,396 --> 01:26:41,728 Because it's not please find him 1628 01:26:41,730 --> 01:26:44,731 Everything I will say will be twisted. 1629 01:26:44,733 --> 01:26:45,966 Yes, we really are... 1630 01:26:45,968 --> 01:26:48,569 All the reasons why we didn't do it There have been many news, 1631 01:26:48,571 --> 01:26:50,871 And doing this is because 1632 01:26:50,873 --> 01:26:53,473 We're really out there. 1633 01:26:53,475 --> 01:26:57,010 Like, I don't even know how many times we... 1634 01:26:07,012 --> 01:26:58,478 How many hours, how many days, 1635 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:01,448 How many weekends, how much money, 1636 01:27:01,450 --> 01:27:04,751 Our money that we have spent just going up there 1637 01:27:04,753 --> 01:27:09,323 But all these people say their rumors, 1638 01:27:09,325 --> 01:27:11,725 And say that , You know, something's wrong, 1639 01:27:11,727 --> 01:27:13,560 Because we're not on the news and this and this and this. 1640 01:27:13,562 --> 01:27:16,196 No, we're doing something for our child 1641 01:27:16,198 --> 01:27:19,866 You're right. I don't want to spend all this time public front every day 1642 01:27:19,868 --> 01:27:21,902 And pet arrogance of all people 1643 01:27:21,904 --> 01:27:23,403 Let them know that I did nothing. 1644 01:27:23,405 --> 01:27:24,838 Because I know I did nothing 1645 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,206 I know no do anything. 1646 01:27:26,208 --> 01:27:27,975 I have one job and I still have that job. 1647 01:27:27,977 --> 01:27:30,010 Find the little boy. 1648 01:27:30,012 --> 01:27:33,580 He knows his name deorr jay kunz 1649 01:27:33,582 --> 01:27:37,618 And he knows his surname is jessica mitchell 1650 01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:40,354 I only pray if someone does see it, 1651 01:27:40,356 --> 01:27:42,789 You know, that they ask, "what's your name?" 1652 01:27:42,791 --> 01:27:45,826 Because I believe him < br /> can still tell you 1653 01:27:49,397 --> 01:27:51,098 when individuals not found 1654 01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:52,833 On search and rescue, 1655 01:27:52,835 --> 01:27:55,235 I can tell you that 1656 01:27:55,237 --> 01:27:57,471 That's something you think about regularly 1657 01:28:02,210 --> 01:28:04,311 You are back in your mind. 1658 01:28:06,247 --> 01:28:08,515 There are times when you go out and look at yourself 1659 01:28:12,387 --> 01:28:16,790 And some of those cases will haunt you forever 1660 01:28:34,742 --> 01:28:38,712 Throughout my tenure as a sheriff, 1661 01:28:38,714 --> 01:28:40,580 There's nothing more important 1662 01:28:40,582 --> 01:28:42,449 Instead of keeping open communication 1663 01:28:42,451 --> 01:28:44,184 With family. 1664 01:28:44,186 --> 01:28:47,087 There is only one case in their minds are still there 1665 01:28:48,222 --> 01:28:50,223 And that makes it very important 1666 01:28:50,225 --> 01:28:53,627 To make sure they feel that you haven't had it forget that 1667 01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:56,029 It's still there look at it 1668 01:29:05,406 --> 01:29:07,307 I don't come here that's often. 1669 01:29:07,309 --> 01:29:09,476 I feel guilty, because I feel like, 1670 01:29:09,478 --> 01:29:12,512 You know, what if my child? Got here at that time, You know, 1671 01:29:12,514 --> 01:29:14,915 I don't know what happened, where is he 1672 01:29:14,917 --> 01:29:17,951 I feel guilty not coming here at the same time 1673 01:29:17,953 --> 01:29:20,654 That hurts too. 1674 01:29:26,327 --> 01:29:29,896 That's difficult understand that that's all 1675 01:29:29,898 --> 01:29:33,633 I go down the mountain and I'll go home without 1676 01:29:34,135 --> 01:29:36,603 That's the hardest thing 1677 01:29:37,538 --> 01:29:39,072 I think I've done it in my life, 1678 01:29:39,074 --> 01:29:41,942 Lower this mountain. 1679 01:29:41,944 --> 01:29:45,078 Jejak selatan yang besar, disini. Aku belum pernah bangun di sini dengan salju di jalan setapak. 1680 01:29:53,454 --> 01:29:56,256 When you come here and you see its beauty 1681 01:29:56,258 --> 01:29:58,158 And you think, 1682 01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,327 "Is my son losing His life is here?" 1683 01:30:00,329 --> 01:30:02,062 I think to myself, 1684 01:30:02,064 --> 01:30:04,998 "Wow, jaryd, you must have chosen it a beautiful place to hang out." 1685 01:30:19,848 --> 01:30:21,748 I don't understand 1686 01:30:22,316 --> 01:30:24,117 An animal gets... 1687 01:30:24,552 --> 01:30:26,653 It hurts too much. 1688 01:30:35,363 --> 01:30:39,466 I mean, I visualized many times... 1689 01:30:40,435 --> 01:30:42,536 I visualized it walk down the trail 1690 01:30:42,538 --> 01:30:45,472 And there is a stupid cat jumping on... 1691 01:30:50,411 --> 01:30:51,978 I visualize it often. 1692 01:30:51,980 --> 01:30:54,314 But at that time same, I also never believed it. 1693 01:30:54,316 --> 01:30:55,849 But I still visualize it, 1694 01:30:55,851 --> 01:30:59,186 Because it was something it was constantly thrown at me 1695 01:31:10,431 --> 01:31:13,433 I can also imagine it it haunts them 1696 01:31:13,435 --> 01:31:15,302 For the rest of their lives. 1697 01:31:15,304 --> 01:31:17,137 It's just a strange situation, 1698 01:31:17,139 --> 01:31:18,939 And the fact that they will do it maybe never 1699 01:31:18,941 --> 01:31:20,841 Have an answer what really happened. 1700 01:31:21,976 --> 01:31:24,444 I think natural tendency 1701 01:31:24,446 --> 01:31:26,546 For all parents and all relatives 1702 01:31:26,548 --> 01:31:29,282 Do they want closure. 1703 01:31:29,284 --> 01:31:31,852 This is unknown what happened to these people 1704 01:31:31,854 --> 01:31:35,822 Dan it's far beyond only children 1705 01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:40,627 We are in 1600 cases, and every month, 1706 01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:42,929 There is a new case coming on my desk 1707 01:31:42,931 --> 01:31:45,198 That suits him what we have talked about 1708 01:31:49,737 --> 01:31:52,839 won't be there be one particular person 1709 01:31:52,841 --> 01:31:55,609 That can explain it many of these phenomena that happened 1710 01:31:55,611 --> 01:31:56,977 We talked about very big , 1711 01:31:56,979 --> 01:32:00,113 Even collectively around the world information here 1712 01:32:00,115 --> 01:32:03,316 Of course the authorities, national park authorities, 1713 01:32:03,318 --> 01:32:04,985 law enforcement authorities... 1714 01:32:04,987 --> 01:32:08,588 They often have it finger stepped on 1715 01:32:08,590 --> 01:32:10,090 Knowledge we need. 1716 01:32:10,092 --> 01:32:12,993 But whether we can or not get from them is another story 1717 01:32:12,995 --> 01:32:14,594 If you see some of these cases, 1718 01:32:14,596 --> 01:32:15,929 You should consider 1719 01:32:15,931 --> 01:32:19,499 Possible with it we are not very comfortable 1720 01:32:19,501 --> 01:32:21,034 You know, This is a rational society. 1721 01:32:21,036 --> 01:32:24,070 We are not comfortable thinking about anything else Can be out there. 1723 01:32:27,175 --> 01:32:30,410 You have to think further the limit of what is normal 1724 01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:32,679 What is normal an explanation for this 1725 01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:41,688 I think the one that most impressive 1726 01:32:41,690 --> 01:32:44,491 is search in southern cities. 1727 01:32:44,493 --> 01:32:47,027 That's for a little toddler 1728 01:32:47,029 --> 01:32:48,328 That has passed. 1729 01:32:48,330 --> 01:32:50,964 And this... I forgot, that's right January February. 1730 01:32:50,966 --> 01:32:55,802 And we can't get it instructions on little toddlers 1733 01:33:02,678 --> 01:33:05,612 Anyway, we... To make a short log story, 1734 01:33:05,614 --> 01:33:07,614 Come through some willow tree, 1735 01:33:07,616 --> 01:33:10,784 And it's all foggy, and the dogs warn. 1736 01:33:10,786 --> 01:33:14,354 But we can't come for any conclusions 1737 01:33:14,356 --> 01:33:16,556 And suddenly, 1738 01:33:16,558 --> 01:33:19,359 My dog turned around and let it go 1739 01:33:19,361 --> 01:33:23,330 Lol was really surprised, you know. 1740 01:33:23,332 --> 01:33:24,731 That's scary. 1741 01:33:24,733 --> 01:33:27,734 And we turned and here it is this little toddler, 1742 01:33:27,736 --> 01:33:30,036 Walking out of the fog, 1743 01:33:30,038 --> 01:33:34,107 With just absolute no clothes at all 1744 01:33:34,109 --> 01:33:36,242 And that scares us. 1745 01:33:36,244 --> 01:33:38,845 I mean, the other handler and I both went "whoa!" 1746 01:33:38,847 --> 01:33:40,580 You know, just surprised us too 1747 01:33:40,582 --> 01:33:44,918 Just like little things < br /> appears out of nowhere out of the fog 1748 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,655 We suspect because it's fair the way... Dirty and everything, 1749 01:33:48,657 --> 01:33:52,359 Maybe that he has been with animals 1750 01:33:52,361 --> 01:33:54,761 Has curled up with coyote, or... 1751 01:33:54,763 --> 01:33:57,030 We don't know for sure. And we will never know 1752 01:34:01,102 --> 01:34:02,702 Most likely 1753 01:34:02,704 --> 01:34:05,238 The most disturbing thing is. 1754 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,808 It's like this As long as humans are here. 1755 01:34:09,777 --> 01:34:11,878 Sometimes we can see the remnants 1757 01:34:27,762 --> 01:34:29,863 He has a monster truck 1758 01:34:30,164 --> 01:34:32,132 And semifinals. 1759 01:34:36,037 --> 01:34:38,738 I think the boots he wear like six, 1760 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:40,674 or five and one part. 1761 01:34:42,276 --> 01:34:44,144 But every time he uses this, 1762 01:34:44,146 --> 01:34:46,846 He said he was super fast and he would run everywhere. 1763 01:34:48,716 --> 01:34:50,350 We deserve to know what happened. 1764 01:34:50,352 --> 01:34:54,187 But the little boy at least deserve to go home or have closure 1765 01:34:54,189 --> 01:34:56,790 At least I owe a lot to my son, 1766 01:34:56,792 --> 01:34:59,959 Most don't give him life again, or closure. 1767 01:35:53,748 --> 01:35:56,916 ™ ™ will you walk 1768 01:35:56,918 --> 01:36:00,787 ™ ª thousand miles 1769 01:36:01,722 --> 01:36:05,492 â ™ ª along the cliff 1770 01:36:05,494 --> 01:36:09,295 â ™ ª cliffs made of shells 1771 01:36:10,731 --> 01:36:13,833 â ™ ª will you leave 1772 01:36:13,835 --> 01:36:17,837 â ™ ª your father 1773 01:36:19,306 --> 01:36:25,512 â ™ ª together, along, together along the way â ™ ª 1774 01:36:27,681 --> 01:36:30,950 Because there is a path 1775 01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:35,822 â ™ ª leads through the mountains 1776 01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:39,559 â ™ ª and it will be cut 1777 01:36:39,561 --> 01:36:44,130 ™ ª cut your house 1778 01:36:44,899 --> 01:36:48,601 â ™ ª and there is a lake 1779 01:36:48,603 --> 01:36:53,173 â ™ ª carved by glaciers 1780 01:36:54,408 --> 01:37:00,079 ™ ª moves through rocks 1781 01:37:01,048 --> 01:37:04,484 â ™ ª moves through 1782 01:37:36,317 --> 01:37:39,586 â ™ ª hey, you