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- Priestess,
you will carry out your duties today.
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Rev. Richard Lopez,
servants of the death row inmates .
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what comes to your mind...
about people
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that you will meet in a minute
for the next hour,
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actually the rest of his life is no more than an hour.
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- I will carry out this work
without expecting much.
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I only share things
the Lord have provided for me,
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for him,
everyone who needs,
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and I won't
put any prejudices.
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not the time.
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I will let everything go
like what should happen,
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over time.
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Our loving God, omnipotent,
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full of mercy, forgiveness.
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Either when you like
or sorrow,
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in full trial
or trouble,
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God is always there for us.
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I want to declare
His presence in their lives.
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- Technically when
the execution will be executed,
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what did you do at that time?
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- $ after I finished my assignment.
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as long as the preparation for execution was done,
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I moved away, and stood up <
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I'm always asking permission
to stand next to his feet
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and holding his ankles,
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If allowed
/> I took that position,
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and put my hand
at her,
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that's what I did
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until she exhaled her last breath.
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- If there are no relatives
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who takes care of his body,
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will you take care of his body?
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- Right, they will be buried here
state burial park,
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and the country that conducted the funeral.
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Their names will not be listed on the cross,
using only numbers.
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- Why God allow
death penalty like this?
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- I don't know the answer.
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I am sure that
there is always a plan
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when God allow
something to happen.
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God has created
so many things in this world.
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Sometimes I play golf.
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I like the atmosphere of
when playing golf,
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because at that time,
my cellphone's ring was off.
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I was there alone
without any interference,
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and I can
gaze at the beautiful grass.
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I can see squirrels,
who are always running around.
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Deer are sometimes seen.
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When I look around
golf courses,
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looks like an ox or a horse,
and... and I... and I stop,
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and I realize life.
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Life,
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is something
that God created.
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- You can tell < br /> your story when you see squirrels?
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- A story about me and a squirrel,
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I am riding a golf cart again,
to continue my game...
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when passing the golf course,
I see two squirrels...
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are chasing,
my train goes towards them,
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and they're run across
the path I will pass,
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then I stop the train,
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and the squirrels stop
in the middle of my path
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and look at me,
then I think, "What will happen?"
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"If I don't stop,
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" One of the squirrels
might be crushed.
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they will die. "
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This reminds me...
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to the
people I have accompanied
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just before their death,
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by choosing
and doing things wrong, they...
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their lives were taken right away.
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So life is really valuable,
squirrel
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or human
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I often reflect on that experience.
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Even though it's a bit troublesome,
but the squirrels can pass
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and they can move on,
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but I can't do the same thing.
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for people in the execution chair,
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I can't cancel
the execution.
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I hope to cancel it.
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Towards the bottomless pit
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Life story, death story
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- Well, yeah.
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You haven't used a cable (sound),
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we have to install the cable first
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Michael Perry, a prisoner of life in the Polunsky unit,
Livingston Texas, for crimes committed 10 years ago.
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He and his accused accused Jason Burkett
committed 3 murders while still a teenager. Now he is 28.
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He will be executed on July 1, 2010
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Michael Perry,
now we all,
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all the teams that are there,
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want to deliver
our condolences.
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for your father's death.
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- Right, on the 10th.
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My father died 13 days ago.
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- 13 days ago.
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- Well, the 10th.
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- But you will also be serving a sentence dead
will be executed...
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- Right.
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- Only 8 days left.
- Right sir.
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- How your situation?
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- You know...
I'm a Christian, so...
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I believe that...
on the one hand heaven has waiting for me
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on the other side is the opposite,
so I say to people,
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If I'm going back to my place
or going home, so...
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I will return to the ground
or go home to God,
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so...,
the closer the time is,
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can feel the pressure
inside myself.
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This is usually called clinical pressure
where I want to do activities
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decreases further,
my energy decreases.
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Frustration will...
rules exist.
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How do they not understand,
situation what is wrong?
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You know, used to be...
I like to write
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and have a lot of energy,
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and now
I don't have it anymore.
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I feel
I'm defeated.
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- I assume,
if it's fate, on one side
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have written
this bad luck.
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Not to defend you,
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even if we meet now,
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doesn't mean
I agree with you,
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but I respect you,
as fellow human beings,
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and in my opinion, humans
should not be sentenced to death
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- Hmm
- That should be.
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- Right.
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- Lieutenant, this place looks
comfortable and safe too.
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- That is, you will think
so.
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Obviously,
this is a closed area.
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The house here is big,
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is also expensive,
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and people will assume
if this place...
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is very quiet,
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and of course it's safe.
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However, the house over there
is the location
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where Sandra Stotler
was killed.
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This way Michael Perry
and Jason Burkett
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park the car
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then enter...
and kill it.
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See the condition of the victim when found,
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when that, he is middle
making a cake,
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this can be seen from
the available evidence.
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Found... there
cakes that not yet finished.
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also cake dough.
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So the event happened
when he was making a cake.
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- but actually
their main motive is not to kill.
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- Yes, from the information
collected before,
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at first they...
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I mean "them"
Michael Perry, Jason Burkett,
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Adam Stotler,
and Jeremy Richardson...
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they get acquainted
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through other fellow friends
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they haven't
known each other before,
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then they... get to know each other,
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and from acknowledgments that exist...
the reason they came here
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with the intention of
asking Adam Stotler
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to allow them to stay
that night
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saying that they
did not have a place to stay,
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then looked for an opportunity
got the car key
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then stole it.
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That's what they really are,
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the red Camaro
car in the garage.
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when they came
and talked with his mother,
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his mother said that his child was away,
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so they leave,
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and that's when
their plans change,
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they will kill the mother
and take the car.
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Then they returned
the house,
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the garage door when it opened,
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and the entrance of the house too.
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Michael Perry ,
according to his acknowledgment,
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enter through the garage door
go to the loundry room
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while Jason Burkett
knocks from the front door.
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happened to be parked
on this road,
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he reasoned the car broke down
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and asked to be allowed to borrow the phone
ask someone for help.
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The mother allows her to enter
to use the telephone,
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and while Jason is on the phone,
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Michael Perry is hiding
in the loundry room
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knock from the direction of
the back garage door,
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then go to the garage door
to see,
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then Michael comes out of the loundry room
and
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that's when he shot him.
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The garage door
stayed open
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until our officer
arrived for the investigation.
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The main bedroom,
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which is in the
section at the back of this house
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right behind the garage,
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from there the two children it
take sprey,
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blanket and...
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and use it to wrap the
corpse.
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They carry it,
put in the truck,
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and took it to
Lake Crater
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to be dumped there.
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- Then why did they get that way?
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the influence of drugs?
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- You know, so far
I don't know
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the evidence that shows,
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there is a correlation between drugs
in this case.
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I mean, to be honest.
The reason is the car.
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The mother has the car
the two young people want,
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so You know...
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It's a pity,
someone died of theft.
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Night when we were here.
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Besides it was dark,
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the situation is much worse
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there are lots of debris
and garbage here.
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This place is... used to be
a dump.
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Trash makes this lake
rarely traveled.
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Actually, there are several
other bodies
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that we found in this lake.
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This is the lake.
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This part is divided,
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where there are traces of car tires
just above this land.
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When they arrive at this place,
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they back up the truck
tightly
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then brakes suddenly,
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so that the corpse
immediately throws away,
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but it doesn't work,
so, once again,
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according to their acknowledgment
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I don't know
whether that actually happened,
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but we can know that...
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doesn't exist clear tire tracks
left in this land.
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maybe you can conclude
if this is...
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tire trails that are circling
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this seems more appropriate
with the actual event,
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but they finally
carried the corpse
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took it there,
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and threw it into the water.
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We can't know for sure
events that occurred through investigation here
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and when carrying out an investigation
at Sandra Stotler's house,
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we still cannot know
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if there are other victims < br /> other than him.
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This is the gate
Highland Ranch complex.
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Where's the house where
Sandra Stotler was killed
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is inside there.
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When Michael Perry
and Jason Burkett came back here
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to get the Camaro
car they were looking for,
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this gate. ..
closed and locked,
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so they can't enter,
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then they park while waiting
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until Adam Stotler and
Jeremy Richardson returned home,
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and after finally meeting
they are invited to forest
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and... and kill them
to get
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gate openers
so they can...
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open this gate
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then go home
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and take the Camaro car.
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- So just because it's not
has a key entered
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because this gate is closed at night,
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two other young children
must die.
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- Right sir.
That's the cause.
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- Lieutenant, Jason Burkett
and Michael Perry
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are proud of
what they have done.
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How true is this?
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- So, this is proven
from the recognition of some people.
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Not just one.
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We get the report
from several people
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from different places
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where they had time to tell
if they killed
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and in that way
got a car.
259
00:21:11,186 --> 00:21:12,728
This is very convincing.
260
00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:14,397
I mean, we believe it.
261
00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:17,191
Although, once again, we...
we have no proof
262
00:21:17,192 --> 00:21:19,360
that there were other victims
at that time
263
00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:22,697
- Only after Perry confessed,
264
00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:26,450
he showed the location of
from the bodies of the two young people.
265
00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:29,120
- Right.
266
00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:13,205
- Instantly when I hear
about mother...
267
00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:14,582
his body has been found,
268
00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:16,917
my day is full of uncertainty.
269
00:22:16,918 --> 00:22:18,294
I'm watching the news.
270
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:19,837
It was Monday,
271
00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:23,007
and I saw the helicopter above
Ronnie's car stopped.
272
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:27,595
Well, we live in a large area
so I still hope a lot
273
00:22:27,596 --> 00:22:31,098
I said, "Adam is going on vacation.
And soon to go home."
274
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:33,934
Because the area is
the area in and out of my house.
275
00:22:33,935 --> 00:22:35,436
So I told my husband.
276
00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:37,480
"Enter the car.
We go there."
277
00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:39,023
& apos; because they asked
the location of the incident,
278
00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:40,775
there's a helicopter,
279
00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:42,943
My sister's car is in the news.
280
00:22:42,944 --> 00:22:44,612
So we headed for
the location of Ronnie's car,
281
00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:47,365
and I saw knick-knacks
that is in the car,
282
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,116
and I'm happy,
"oh, it's not Adam's car.
283
00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:50,910
That's not the knick-knacks of the car."
284
00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:52,620
- "knick-knacks" you mean?
285
00:22:52,621 --> 00:22:55,164
- Stickers that are there...
- "Gauge," "AB"?
286
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:56,582
- Well, I see the knick-knacks.
287
00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:58,250
Aku senang,
"oh, bukan mobilnya."
288
00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:07,343
You know, when I saw
the car's license plate.
289
00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:09,595
The car was full of holes
bullet marks,
290
00:23:09,596 --> 00:23:14,517
after it was done
chase
291
00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:17,144
and managed to catch them
in the apartment complex,
292
00:23:17,145 --> 00:23:20,606
and I followed all of the events,
293
00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:22,525
they left the location
then went to hospital,
294
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,985
then let me know...
and this is what I've been waiting for
295
00:23:24,986 --> 00:23:27,863
because Adam has disappeared
since Wednesday,
296
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,323
and it's been days Monday,
I ask,
297
00:23:29,324 --> 00:23:31,325
"Please tell me,
is Adam there?"
298
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:32,827
They say, "Adam got shot",
299
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:35,246
and was taken to the hospital. "
300
00:23:35,247 --> 00:23:39,208
At that time, Michael Perry
claimed to be Adam.
301
00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:41,544
He escaped detention.
302
00:23:53,181 --> 00:23:55,850
- Perry holding Adam's identification.
303
00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:57,685
You believe...
- I believe he is still alive.
304
00:23:57,686 --> 00:23:59,353
- Your brother survived, only hurt,
305
00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:02,189
because you got the news
Adam congratulations...
306
00:24:02,190 --> 00:24:03,566
- Shot.
307
00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,151
- got shot and was in the hospital.
308
00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:07,528
- And I... you know,
Thankful.
309
00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:10,322
Thank God.
310
00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:11,824
Then I tried to call
some hospitals
311
00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:14,034
find out where
the hospital is,
312
00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:16,620
I explained the characteristics,
313
00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:18,414
Finally there was a nurse,
314
00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:21,417
he said, "This child
not as you mentioned."
315
00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:26,797
- But you have hoped, I mean,
basically there is hope
316
00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:29,675
if your sister survives
only hurts.
317
00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:31,051
- Yes.
- Still alive.
318
00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:32,428
- Yah.
319
00:24:32,429 --> 00:24:34,430
- And right away...
320
00:24:34,431 --> 00:24:37,099
- Duniaku terasa runtuh.
321
00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:41,562
Everything is dead.
322
00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:48,068
I called lieutenant Davidson,
323
00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:51,739
he asked me to come to the police station,
324
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,282
and I said,
325
00:24:53,283 --> 00:24:55,409
"I'm seeing you on TV now.
326
00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:57,912
just say
if it's Adam."
327
00:24:57,913 --> 00:24:59,580
And he said,
"I hope you
328
00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:01,916
can see me at the office. "
329
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:03,876
I said," Just say it. "
330
00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:06,045
The answer,
" Well, this is Adam. "
331
00:25:06,046 --> 00:25:07,713
" This his body, "
332
00:25:07,714 --> 00:25:10,466
my knees felt weak,
333
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:13,469
I never realized it
if the knees can be weak, you know...
334
00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:15,554
that expression is true, < br /> "Weakness is on the knees."
335
00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:17,556
My knees are weak,
and fall to the floor.
336
00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:29,735
- This is Lindsey Lane.
337
00:25:29,736 --> 00:25:32,238
This location is our get
338
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:34,865
from acknowledgment
Michael Perry
339
00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:36,992
that we will find
two other bodies
340
00:25:36,993 --> 00:25:39,161
namely Adam Stotler
and Jeremy Richardson.
341
00:25:43,708 --> 00:25:45,543
We are following this road,
and are scattered.
342
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,919
we get to the end of the road,
343
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,004
and we did it
on foot
344
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:52,591
and found Adam's body.
345
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:01,934
They were invited to this place
346
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:04,228
on the grounds that
found their friend
347
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,564
who was injured
while hunting.
348
00:26:10,443 --> 00:26:13,529
This house hasn't been there
at that time.
349
00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:14,989
You can see, < br /> this is a way out,
350
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,365
how is the situation around,
351
00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:18,867
so we don't know
for sure
352
00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:20,703
where exactly the location in question
353
00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:22,705
p>
354
00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:34,550
The location where the body was found.
355
00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:36,552
when we
conducted an investigation
356
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,138
when moving the body,
we raised it,
357
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:42,558
there is also one other cigarette butt
around it
358
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,143
Cigarette butts originating from
from under the victim's body
359
00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:46,478
after being analyzed
in the DNA Laboratory ,
360
00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:48,981
matches Perry's DNA.
361
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,066
- Which means his body
collapsed / fell...
362
00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:52,443
- Falled on the cigarette's fortune
363
00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:54,486
that was previously disposed of by the owner.
364
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,949
One more body
namely Jeremy Richardson.
365
00:26:58,950 --> 00:27:01,285
Where we found the body,
366
00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:04,038
is in the middle of the branch < br /> trees that are difficult to reach.
367
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:05,998
We don't know how
until it can be there.
368
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:08,542
We have trouble issuing it
must be with the help of a machine
369
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:10,544
to cut
twigs and tree trunks.
370
00:27:13,757 --> 00:27:15,758
Jeremy, he got away
and he was shot
371
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:17,176
while running.
372
00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:18,552
I'm not sure,
what's the cause
373
00:27:18,553 --> 00:27:20,888
Is it because you heard the gunshot
then you were scared,
374
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:22,556
or because Jason
stabbed him with a gun
375
00:27:22,557 --> 00:27:24,558
he had noticed this danger,
376
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,226
then try to run away.
377
00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:39,615
- Charles, you lost
your sister, Jeremy.
378
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:42,743
Do you remember the first time
heard the news?
379
00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:46,872
- I'm in Georgia,
380
00:27:46,873 --> 00:27:49,625
got a call
from my aunt
381
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,044
who told me to go home.
382
00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:53,754
There's bad news.
383
00:27:55,548 --> 00:27:56,924
I want to call.
384
00:27:56,925 --> 00:27:59,259
But at that time,
my money isn't there,
385
00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:01,428
home phone can't
be used for long distance
386
00:28:01,429 --> 00:28:05,641
I tried the phone (cost by destination number)
my grandfather accepted.
387
00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:07,267
But he was not willing...
388
00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:09,603
He didn't want to pay
2 dollars to talk to me
389
00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:12,272
tell me that my sister died.
390
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,236
I can only hope
aunt called back
391
00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:18,904
and asked what happened,
392
00:28:18,905 --> 00:28:23,951
he finally called,
at first I thought,
393
00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:26,412
maybe just for lip service,
he asks
394
00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:27,913
"Do you know Jason Burkett?"
395
00:28:27,914 --> 00:28:29,373
Kujawab, "Yah."
396
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:31,125
He said ,
"Something has happened,
397
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:34,336
your brother died,"
and,...
398
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:50,602
originally came to mind,
you know,
399
00:28:50,603 --> 00:28:54,106
Jason drives a car,
careless fruit
400
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:57,943
as is his habit
and has an accident,
401
00:28:57,944 --> 00:28:59,319
but what aunt
says is not that,
402
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,406
Jason who killed him
because of a car.
403
00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:05,659
I... I'm weak.
404
00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:07,661
I'm weak.
405
00:29:09,956 --> 00:29:13,751
My uncle come
and pick me up, and, uh...
406
00:29:14,794 --> 00:29:17,296
We go home in his car.
407
00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:19,214
- And your father?
408
00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:20,591
Where is he?
409
00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,259
- Prison.
410
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:24,094
- The sentence is heavy?
411
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,306
- This is the first time
412
00:29:27,307 --> 00:29:30,976
he was imprisoned for
murder.
413
00:29:30,977 --> 00:29:33,312
- All my life?
414
00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:35,814
- No.
415
00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:39,485
First he served his sentence
15 years in prison,
416
00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:41,153
then free
about 1 year,
417
00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:44,531
he left,
then got a life sentence,
418
00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:46,784
he almost finished
his sentence.
419
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:50,913
- And you are under
the influence of drugs at the funeral?
420
00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:52,539
- Well, I fly again
during the funeral.
421
00:29:55,001 --> 00:30:00,005
The police said I violated
my parole agreement.
422
00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:05,719
they came to arrest me
during the funeral...
423
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:10,098
Can I ask for an explanation
the reason for all this?
424
00:30:10,099 --> 00:30:12,100
I mean, it doesn't matter
to say to them,
425
00:30:12,101 --> 00:30:14,520
because of the possession of drugs
426
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:17,022
- so you are detained and
taken into custody,
427
00:30:17,023 --> 00:30:18,398
when your sister's funeral is?
428
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,067
- Well, during the funeral
429
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:21,485
The police are coming.
430
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:25,656
There are 6 people and
they check me
431
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:30,160
and say that
I will have to be taken immediately
432
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:32,037
I request, to get relief
at least until
433
00:30:32,038 --> 00:30:34,039
the funeral is over.
434
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,542
- Then you make a tear tattoo...
435
00:30:36,543 --> 00:30:38,502
what do you mean?
436
00:30:38,503 --> 00:30:42,756
- I lost...
younger brother and sister.
437
00:30:42,757 --> 00:30:44,132
- The man killed.
438
00:30:44,133 --> 00:30:46,593
What about sister
439
00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:48,178
- He wants to go home,
440
00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:51,849
and cross the road,
441
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,184
and get hit by a car.
442
00:30:56,855 --> 00:31:00,482
- Can you tell me about your sister < br /> Jeremy?
443
00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:02,317
Can it be shown?
444
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:13,787
- Jeremy is...
445
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:15,706
beloved child.
446
00:31:19,377 --> 00:31:22,713
She's good,
trusting her friends.
447
00:31:28,094 --> 00:31:33,765
The problems she does
are just for...
448
00:31:33,766 --> 00:31:35,726
to get attention,
449
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:37,519
but he never
made a serious problem.
450
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,688
He won't...
do something that is too far off.
451
00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:43,859
Problems made only
make us laugh, you know,
452
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,278
like chatting in class,
and things like that.
453
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:47,779
He likes to hang out with people.
454
00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:50,365
Many like it and, uh
455
00:31:52,702 --> 00:31:54,369
Everyone says
I should
456
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:59,249
who deserves to die
21 is not Jeremy.
457
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:00,626
- You love it?
458
00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,628
- Of course.
459
00:32:05,715 --> 00:32:08,467
He...
is my best friend.
460
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:12,512
He's my best friend since childhood.
461
00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:14,181
It's just my family.
462
00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:18,977
- You always take care of it.
463
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,607
- I'm trying.
464
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:30,405
My departure is the only
my fault for him.
465
00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:33,200
I introduced him to
the person who killed him.
466
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:44,086
He always says,
467
00:32:44,087 --> 00:32:46,755
only the two of us
can rely on each other.
468
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,094
Now I say the same thing
to my wife.
469
00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:57,099
Both of us can
rely on each other.
470
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,361
- I heard since
got the report
471
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:11,405
until they were caught,
no more than a week.
472
00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:14,199
That's right, about
5 to 7 days.
473
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,661
- You arrived at the scene of the incident
where were they arrested?
474
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:19,121
- Yes, right .
475
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,540
- Can you tell me?
476
00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:22,916
are there any resistance?
477
00:33:22,917 --> 00:33:24,418
- yes, they fight.
478
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:26,086
There is a truck that stops... .
479
00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,046
now the truck has been moved,
480
00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:30,215
but the truck was
located somewhere
481
00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:31,591
in the parking lot,
482
00:33:31,592 --> 00:33:33,427
waste disposal warehouse,
483
00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:35,762
then crossed
there is an apartment complex,
484
00:33:35,763 --> 00:33:39,266
so the location of the incident starts
from the parking lot
485
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:41,768
continue towards
apartment complex.
486
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,523
There is a shootout.
487
00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:49,026
There is a former bullet projectile
at the shooting location
488
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,819
between them and the officer
489
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,195
There is a broken car,
490
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:54,698
and, only there are some
people at that place.
491
00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:59,661
- Officers are injured?
492
00:33:59,662 --> 00:34:01,163
- yes, shot in the leg.
493
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:05,876
There is a broken car,
494
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,211
p>
495
00:34:08,212 --> 00:34:10,881
and all the glasses
496
00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:14,468
broke due to gunfire.
497
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:17,804
Burket and Perry, both of them
got hit.
498
00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:19,306
Jason Burkett got hit 3 shots,
499
00:34:19,307 --> 00:34:21,391
and I'm not so sure
with Perry's condition,
500
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:24,019
but they... both were injured
hit by shooting
501
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:27,105
and also broken glass.
502
00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:57,928
- So at that time,
was really tense,
503
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:00,555
and you experienced that situation.
504
00:35:00,556 --> 00:35:02,516
Did you really start
a shot or.
505
00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:03,892
- How did it happen...
506
00:35:03,893 --> 00:35:05,852
- I didn't mean
not polite but in my opinion...
507
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:07,229
- Well, I can tell.
508
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:08,605
I can say that...
I was proven guilty...
509
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:10,941
I've been living 10 years
out of my 15 years, so...
510
00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:12,859
- Well, I know.
- At that time we were sleepy.
511
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:14,778
We drank at night.
512
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,154
We slept in a car
513
00:35:16,155 --> 00:35:17,823
because no longer strong
to get to the motel
514
00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:19,825
which is across the fence.
515
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:24,329
I don't remember anyone
who is in the car.
516
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:25,705
How can we be in one car.
517
00:35:25,706 --> 00:35:27,082
I don't know his name.
518
00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:28,792
I'm the same
519
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:30,377
Michael Perry and I
just drank,
520
00:35:30,378 --> 00:35:33,880
along with the people who were caught
with us that night.
521
00:35:33,881 --> 00:35:38,343
I remember I woke up
and the car was shot.
522
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,719
I looked around.
523
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,179
Michael Perry
is gone.
524
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:42,597
There are only young people another
next to me,
525
00:35:42,598 --> 00:35:44,057
it turns out Perry was in the back seat,
526
00:35:44,058 --> 00:35:46,893
he entered
from the back door,
527
00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:48,270
then the door closed.
528
00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:51,356
I turn on the car
then run away,
529
00:35:51,357 --> 00:35:53,400
and all say,
"You shouldn't run.
530
00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:54,776
You shouldn't run."
531
00:35:54,777 --> 00:35:56,444
I have been shot,
532
00:35:56,445 --> 00:35:58,947
and not to be shot again
the only way
533
00:35:58,948 --> 00:36:00,615
is to run away,
534
00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:02,784
I was half conscious at that time.
535
00:36:02,785 --> 00:36:04,202
I don't understand murder.
536
00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:06,037
I don't know
what they want...
537
00:36:06,038 --> 00:36:07,414
I don't know my mistake.
538
00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:09,040
I don't even know
do they know me.
539
00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:11,918
And when I try to run,
540
00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:13,461
there are police in front of the right.
541
00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:14,880
I turn right,
542
00:36:14,881 --> 00:36:18,425
and he shoots my hand.
543
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,094
- How severe is your wound?
544
00:36:21,095 --> 00:36:22,470
- I got shot here.
545
00:36:22,471 --> 00:36:23,972
- Can you lift it a little?
546
00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,516
- I hit it here.
547
00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,352
at the beginning, hands, fingers.
548
00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:31,646
I got it here.
549
00:36:31,647 --> 00:36:33,481
I got it here,
550
00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:36,818
and here.
551
00:36:36,819 --> 00:36:41,156
Here, there is a car part and
pierced.
552
00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:44,492
- and hasn't been issued?
553
00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:46,995
so how can you get away from metal sensors?
554
00:36:46,996 --> 00:36:49,539
- Well, it was issued after that.
555
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,333
Finally it can be issued
inside the prison.
556
00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:55,128
My groin is hit
broken glass
557
00:36:55,129 --> 00:36:57,756
from the windshield.
558
00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:04,554
I hit the building
because I could no longer drive.
559
00:37:04,555 --> 00:37:06,223
My blood was scattered in the car.
560
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,558
According to them,
"Your DNA is similar to a gun."
561
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,185
My DNA is everywhere.
562
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:13,021
I got shot.
My blood is in Michael Perry's body.
563
00:37:13,022 --> 00:37:15,523
There in the seat I was shot.
564
00:37:15,524 --> 00:37:17,651
Blood splattered everywhere.
565
00:37:22,448 --> 00:37:25,700
After crashing, I ran out
566
00:37:25,701 --> 00:37:27,077
I ran away.
567
00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:29,120
Run towards the building
568
00:37:29,121 --> 00:37:31,039
There the police opened fire on the building
569
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,540
that we hit.
570
00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:35,502
They shot from
various directions.
571
00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:39,673
The building window part back
the shape is like this.
572
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,299
So you can't pass
yourself from it.
573
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,386
I shot the glass once.
574
00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:45,971
Maybe I shouldn't do it,
575
00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:47,764
but I'm stuck,
and panic.
576
00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:49,307
don't know what to do.
577
00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:51,810
and when we succeed,
we run to the apartment
578
00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:56,022
and, you know... I carry Perry
579
00:37:56,023 --> 00:37:59,192
we made it into that department.
580
00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:02,612
- You... did all that
without giving up.
581
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,531
I remember reading
582
00:38:04,532 --> 00:38:07,534
that Michael shouted,
"It's time.
583
00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:10,036
keep firing the wall," or so about...
584
00:38:10,037 --> 00:38:12,706
"Let's jump.
we reply to them."
585
00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:15,041
do you remember those words?
586
00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:17,711
- I've read that
they said, "keep firing the walls,"
587
00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:19,337
or so.
588
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:20,714
I don't argue with that.
589
00:38:20,715 --> 00:38:22,090
That's probably what he said.
590
00:38:22,091 --> 00:38:24,301
- The atmosphere was very noisy.
lots of gunshots.
591
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,511
- I haven't really realized
what happened.
592
00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:28,847
All I know, we have to go
from that place.
593
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:30,265
- Well.
594
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:33,393
- And... and he yells,
"Shoot hold the wall, "they say.
595
00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:36,563
- Well, how do I say that?
596
00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:39,774
I didn't mean too much
details about...
597
00:38:39,775 --> 00:38:41,192
what what happened,
598
00:38:41,193 --> 00:38:45,989
the truth is there
3 people were killed.
599
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,407
- Mm-hmm.
600
00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:52,912
- And you deny,
not location of the incident...
601
00:38:52,913 --> 00:38:54,289
how are you...
602
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:55,874
- Now, that's not what
is a question.
603
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:57,792
nothing can be questioned < if I'm not guilty.
604
00:38:57,793 --> 00:38:59,252
That question is over.
605
00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:01,838
The question is, what can be done
people about it at this time
606
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:05,592
I mean, for example you are now
here with your friends.
607
00:39:05,593 --> 00:39:07,427
They come to motel
by car.
608
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,554
You will think,
if the car is...
609
00:39:09,555 --> 00:39:11,056
you know,
they are your friends,
610
00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:13,016
So when Jason came
picked me up by car,
611
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:14,434
I thought there was no problem.
612
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:15,935
You got on the car
then got arrested,
613
00:39:15,936 --> 00:39:18,521
and then you find out that
he killed for the car,
614
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:20,190
You ended up dead
in Texas now.
615
00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:21,566
Your life ends here
616
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:23,151
because you trust
one of your friends
617
00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:24,903
who came and picked you up
by car
618
00:39:24,904 --> 00:39:26,863
that not only
stolen .
619
00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:29,657
- But trusting Jason
is the wrong choice.
620
00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:31,910
- Oh, of course.
- I mean, let's see.
621
00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:34,746
He's like a rotten apple
and so are you.
622
00:39:34,747 --> 00:39:37,374
- I don't have home
and forced, so...
623
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,794
- use drugs and steal.
624
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:43,296
- He offered me medicine
he offered me a place to stay.
625
00:39:43,297 --> 00:39:45,590
He gave food,
so I chose it...
626
00:39:45,591 --> 00:39:47,217
That's my choice,
which I shouldn't choose.
627
00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,260
I regret it every...
every minute now.
628
00:39:49,261 --> 00:39:51,721
Every minute counts, huh?
629
00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:53,098
Every minute is very valuable.
630
00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:55,892
The conclusion of all this,
you know,
631
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:57,685
they can... all can
do the same thing.
632
00:39:57,686 --> 00:39:59,521
Be in the wrong situation
and at the wrong time,
633
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:01,231
and there is no
warning about the consequences.
634
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,608
You definitely want to leave
Texas as soon as possible, huh?
635
00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:05,402
They might catch you
anytime, huh?
636
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:47,360
- I went to my friend's house. <
637
00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:50,155
There is someone there,
and wants to fight with me,
638
00:40:50,156 --> 00:40:55,618
he ran towards me
as soon as I got out of the truck,
639
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:57,871
and... and... I ignore it.
640
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,247
You understand what I mean?
641
00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:01,374
"Get away, bro,
I don't have a problem with you."
642
00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:04,002
People say he said
entering stabbed me
643
00:41:04,003 --> 00:41:05,837
when I got out of the truck.
644
00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:07,338
You know,
he was like chasing me,
645
00:41:07,339 --> 00:41:10,008
so I... turned around,
look at the man,
646
00:41:10,009 --> 00:41:13,511
and I dodge,
I want to take off my shirt,
647
00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:16,347
I take off my shirt...
like this,
648
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,183
and release it through the elbow.
649
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:20,685
I almost took off my shirt,
and at that time,
650
00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:23,354
he stabbed me here
with a screwdriver, you know,
651
00:41:23,355 --> 00:41:26,024
screwdriver so far,
the brand is Phillips,
652
00:41:26,025 --> 00:41:28,193
you know, the screwdriver is thin, < br /> and length.
653
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:32,197
Stabbed up to the job, uh...
654
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:34,782
- Until the business?
- Up to the business.
655
00:41:34,783 --> 00:41:36,284
- Why can it get that deep?
656
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:40,455
- Possible,
maybe about this.
657
00:41:40,456 --> 00:41:43,458
Put it straight...
straight from my hand,
658
00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:44,834
enter in the chest,
659
00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:47,253
and I'm not hospitalized
or treat it.
660
00:41:47,254 --> 00:41:49,672
- Do you feel that time?
You feel the screwdriver...
661
00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:52,175
- Well, only...
Feels...
662
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:54,469
you know, something entered
when it was stabbed.
663
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:55,845
That's what I felt,
664
00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:57,555
I jumped back away,
665
00:41:57,556 --> 00:42:01,518
and... I see,
my friend threw me a knife,
666
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,394
I saw that knife on the ground,
667
00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:04,771
I want, you know,
668
00:42:04,772 --> 00:42:06,773
I say in my heart,
669
00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:09,108
"I want to go home
meet my child today. "
670
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:10,944
so I didn't take the knife,
671
00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:14,364
then my other friends arrived,
672
00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:18,201
I should have arrived
where I worked inside 30 minutes.
673
00:42:18,202 --> 00:42:20,578
Not making it up, I live...
674
00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:24,582
I stayed at home
with Jason's brother.
675
00:42:24,583 --> 00:42:27,085
The name, Chris Burkett ?
676
00:42:27,086 --> 00:42:28,586
I live at home with him.
677
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,255
- Chris wasn't jailed
at that time?
678
00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:32,048
- No.
679
00:42:32,049 --> 00:42:33,633
-
680
00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:35,260
- No.
681
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:36,719
They told me
682
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,596
to go to the hospital
or treat it,
683
00:42:38,597 --> 00:42:39,973
but it feels like it....
like a child
684
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:41,516
not much blood,
685
00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:44,352
I think I'm fine.
686
00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:46,479
I'm very sure.
687
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,273
So I was lucky at the time.
688
00:42:54,363 --> 00:42:58,199
- But you haven't
been involved in a legal problem before?
689
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,576
- Me I've been involved in a crime.
690
00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:01,953
I'm involved only once...
691
00:43:01,954 --> 00:43:03,329
- But now you work?
692
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:04,706
- Yes.
- You have a job ?
693
00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:06,583
- Well, and for more than four years
no legal problems.
694
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,626
- Can I see your hand?
- Yah.
695
00:43:08,627 --> 00:43:12,380
- From your hand,
it looks like you are a rough worker.
696
00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,382
Your job...
- Yeah.
697
00:43:14,383 --> 00:43:16,384
- At the paint shop?
- Yes
698
00:43:16,385 --> 00:43:18,052
- Cars.
- Yes.
699
00:43:18,053 --> 00:43:20,054
- Parts of the car body repair?
- Yes.
700
00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:21,639
- And your tattoo?
701
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,392
Can I see it?
Can you show me?
702
00:43:24,393 --> 00:43:27,395
- Bailey.
703
00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:29,522
- You've been with him
when you met Burkett?
704
00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:30,982
- No.
- Not yet, uh-huh.
705
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:32,358
- No.
706
00:43:32,359 --> 00:43:34,485
I've been with him
for 3 years,
707
00:43:34,486 --> 00:43:37,280
and have a baby of 17 months
708
00:43:37,281 --> 00:43:39,657
- Oh, yeah.
so you live together?
709
00:43:39,658 --> 00:43:41,451
- Yah.
710
00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:42,994
- Tatomu is permanent?
711
00:43:42,995 --> 00:43:44,829
- Well, this is permanent.
712
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:47,165
Can't deleted.
713
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:51,753
- Then what if
you break up?
714
00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:53,713
What about the tattoo?
715
00:43:53,714 --> 00:43:56,049
- I thought just add
"Bailey Damn "here.
716
00:43:56,050 --> 00:43:58,009
(laughs)
717
00:44:06,352 --> 00:44:09,020
- Can you tell me about
Jason Burkett?
718
00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:11,356
How did you meet?
How did you know him?
719
00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:13,816
What do you know about him?
720
00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:15,693
- When you first met,
721
00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:17,612
looks like he's a cool person,
you know?
722
00:44:17,613 --> 00:44:18,988
So we spend time together,
723
00:44:18,989 --> 00:44:21,282
I know him to
some women and many things,
724
00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:25,036
and then we often
hunt.
725
00:44:27,206 --> 00:44:30,124
One time, he tried
killed me.
726
00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:32,293
I introduced him to a girl,
727
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,462
there is a problem between
sigadis father and him.
728
00:44:34,463 --> 00:44:35,838
I do not know the cause.
729
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:38,091
Because of that, he thinks
I am eyeing the girl
730
00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:40,593
then he came home
my female friend
731
00:44:40,594 --> 00:44:42,595
and threatened with a gun.
732
00:44:42,596 --> 00:44:44,639
My friend told me to come out,
733
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,391
it was dinner,
734
00:44:46,392 --> 00:44:48,476
he chased me with a gun.
735
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:50,061
so we fought
for 45 minutes
736
00:44:50,062 --> 00:44:54,190
with a gun aiming at my head
in the girl's house.
737
00:44:54,191 --> 00:44:57,902
The gun is 22 caliber
one shotgun.
738
00:44:57,903 --> 00:45:00,905
Well, pointed out...
head to my head,
739
00:45:00,906 --> 00:45:03,908
wants to shoot my head.
740
00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:06,411
we fight around the house
741
00:45:06,412 --> 00:45:09,122
until I hide
in the bedroom,
742
00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:10,957
he was about to kick
the door,
743
00:45:10,958 --> 00:45:13,251
so I opened it
and let him in.
744
00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:16,087
because I didn't want
he ruined this girl's house ,
745
00:45:16,088 --> 00:45:18,673
after that,
we fought again
746
00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:21,384
he hit me on the bed,
and pulled the trigger of the gun.
747
00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:22,969
- You got shot?
748
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:25,471
- No, the shot failed,
749
00:45:25,472 --> 00:45:27,098
the bullet could come out
from the gun,
750
00:45:27,099 --> 00:45:30,309
you know bullet type 22,
shaped like...
751
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:32,645
spheres, the bottom is flat.
752
00:45:32,646 --> 00:45:34,480
If the size is too short,
753
00:45:34,481 --> 00:45:38,151
the trigger is not hit by bullets,
and the shot fails.
754
00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:42,488
But this one hit, and I
don't know why I wasn't shot.
755
00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:44,365
- You're lucky.
- Yah.
756
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:45,950
- Very lucky.
757
00:45:45,951 --> 00:45:47,452
- Well, like magic.
758
00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:48,911
(laughs)
759
00:45:48,912 --> 00:45:50,580
(spits)
760
00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:54,584
But, well, it's really lucky.
761
00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,086
And then he killed
those people,
762
00:45:57,087 --> 00:45:59,088
I grieved
for his family.
763
00:46:06,138 --> 00:46:09,348
One time, me and my friend Justin
were hanging out at the bar,
764
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:13,394
then he came with
a new car, he and Perry,
765
00:46:13,395 --> 00:46:14,771
we asked, "Hey",
766
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,522
where is this new car? "
767
00:46:16,523 --> 00:46:18,274
He replied,
" Oh, we are a joint "...
768
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:19,650
he and Perry joint venture
769
00:46:19,651 --> 00:46:22,737
playing the lottery
770
00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:24,864
then win and buy 2 cars.
771
00:46:24,865 --> 00:46:26,657
Yes, me and my friend know
that's not true,
772
00:46:26,658 --> 00:46:28,826
because they're both criminals,
can you know?
773
00:46:28,827 --> 00:46:30,203
There's no way they bought it...
774
00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,205
none of them
have a SIM,
775
00:46:32,206 --> 00:46:35,708
and again... you know,
the car is very complete,
776
00:46:35,709 --> 00:46:39,378
there is a CD, there is a skateboard,
and there are other equipment,
777
00:46:39,379 --> 00:46:43,299
so we know...
there must be something,
778
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,928
They give a chance < br /> for those who want to try the car.
779
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,144
- Jason and Michael
come to the bar
780
00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:57,855
to show off, the car that
just bought
781
00:46:57,856 --> 00:47:02,652
at first, we...
everyone doesn't understand.
782
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,404
They explained that
they bought lottery tickets,
783
00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:07,782
from there they got money
/> to buy the car,
784
00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:11,744
and at that time, it was somewhat
suspicious.
785
00:47:11,745 --> 00:47:15,081
- Something's not right?
786
00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:17,792
- The number of lotteries that won
there are 4000 dollars.
787
00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:19,752
And they say,
exchanged at the gas station.
788
00:47:19,753 --> 00:47:22,797
Very unusual.
789
00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:24,632
And cars- the car is invisible
like
790
00:47:24,633 --> 00:47:26,008
new from a car showroom.
791
00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:27,385
- You had a chance to try that car?
792
00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,220
- I'm riding in it.
I'm not the driver.
793
00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:30,721
Well, they're...
Jason and Michael
794
00:47:30,722 --> 00:47:32,723
allows everyone to try it,
795
00:47:32,724 --> 00:47:36,394
and I tried both of them.
796
00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:41,357
The Camaro is red,
when trying it,
797
00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:43,818
they showed a gun.
798
00:47:43,819 --> 00:47:45,236
A 12 gauge shotgun gun,
799
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:46,821
the other one I don't remember,
800
00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,491
and that night, the gun
lay so just in the car.
801
00:47:50,492 --> 00:47:54,036
Of the rumors I heard,
they are...
802
00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:57,331
making plans to steal
my roommate's car
803
00:47:57,332 --> 00:47:58,708
at home what I put in first,
804
00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:00,167
saw that gun,
I got scared,
805
00:48:00,168 --> 00:48:01,544
& apos; because I could get involved.
806
00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:03,254
If he came to the house
and plan
807
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:05,756
take the car from the parking lot,
what is my fate?
808
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:09,010
I throw away that thought
809
00:48:09,011 --> 00:48:11,679
I try to ignore it
810
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,848
and don't think about it.
811
00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:23,441
See the life of
that I have lived,
812
00:48:23,442 --> 00:48:25,443
even though I work at a bar,
813
00:48:25,444 --> 00:48:30,281
I've felt the beauty of life
and I won't want to get involved.
814
00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:32,325
Then I persuaded them to
take me home
815
00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:36,579
- Jason ever boasted about his crime?
816
00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:39,373
- Not to me and
my friend Justin.
817
00:48:39,374 --> 00:48:41,042
We don't even know
what already happened
818
00:48:41,043 --> 00:48:45,129
They came... picked us up
from Justin's house,
819
00:48:45,130 --> 00:48:47,465
by the police,
and took us,
820
00:48:47,466 --> 00:48:49,675
and asked
"You read the newspaper?"
821
00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:52,386
I said, "I'm illiterate",
822
00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:54,305
but they don't believe it,
823
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:56,766
they see my biodiversity
and it seems that I'm illiterate,
824
00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:59,602
So they read the word for me,
825
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,229
and told
what they did.
826
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:03,606
- Mm-hmm.
827
00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:04,982
Now you can read?
828
00:49:04,983 --> 00:49:06,525
- Oh, yeah.
829
00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:09,570
- Even though it's late, you start
learning to read.
830
00:49:09,571 --> 00:49:11,072
- Well, I learned to read
831
00:49:11,073 --> 00:49:12,448
- It's amazing isn't it?
832
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:14,909
This is something valuable.
833
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:17,870
- Well, great.
834
00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:19,830
- Your knowledge now
broader
835
00:49:19,831 --> 00:49:22,667
- Yah.
836
00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,211
- How do you feel
when you're illiterate?
837
00:49:25,212 --> 00:49:27,254
You have to be smarter
than other people
838
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:28,673
to know about
what is happening.
839
00:49:28,674 --> 00:49:30,341
- Yah.
840
00:49:30,342 --> 00:49:33,177
When you can't read
there are always thoughts like...
841
00:49:33,178 --> 00:49:35,346
I mean,
& apos; they won't always be there
842
00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:37,181
someone to read it to you. "
843
00:49:39,351 --> 00:49:42,645
I learned to read in prison
844
00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:46,357
so now I can
write and read letters,
845
00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:50,695
besides that, I didn't
intend to go back to my past,
846
00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:54,031
but I'm happy to be able to
learn to read there.
847
00:49:54,032 --> 00:49:56,534
- So your life has improved?
- Oh, yeah.
848
00:49:56,535 --> 00:49:58,828
busy at work < br /> paint and repair the car body.
849
00:49:58,829 --> 00:50:00,830
- and read?
- Oh, yeah.
850
00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:02,331
- write?
851
00:50:02,332 --> 00:50:04,417
- rarely write.
852
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:05,876
Lots of sandpaper?
853
00:50:05,877 --> 00:50:07,795
(laughs)
854
00:50:09,673 --> 00:50:13,759
- I want to know
your relationship with Michael Perry.
855
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,386
How did you meet ?
856
00:50:15,387 --> 00:50:17,013
What is your life?
857
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:22,685
- In 2000, I have a boyfriend.
858
00:50:22,686 --> 00:50:25,563
He has friends, Miranda.
859
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,231
I'm on the road go to jail,
860
00:50:27,232 --> 00:50:29,775
I saw miranda
across the street
861
00:50:29,776 --> 00:50:32,278
arguing with Michael Perry,
862
00:50:32,279 --> 00:50:34,238
I stopped, and asked
what was the problem?
863
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,906
he said,
"he just needs to be divided,
864
00:50:35,907 --> 00:50:37,283
"I can't allow...
865
00:50:37,284 --> 00:50:38,951
" You know, he can't
stay there again.
866
00:50:38,952 --> 00:50:40,327
"My father saw it...
867
00:50:40,328 --> 00:50:42,163
"This morning, my father fought
with him.
868
00:50:42,164 --> 00:50:43,539
He can't stay there."
869
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:45,082
So he lives in the trunk of a car,
870
00:50:45,083 --> 00:50:47,084
and I said, "I don't know
what to say."
871
00:50:47,085 --> 00:50:48,794
and he asked,
"Can he stay with you?"
872
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:50,171
at that time, I replied
873
00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:52,006
"No, he can't."
874
00:50:52,007 --> 00:50:54,550
Then he looked at me, I saw
he was sad and crying,
875
00:50:54,551 --> 00:50:57,928
and he said, "please ,
only for one month. "
876
00:50:57,929 --> 00:51:00,056
At that time we stayed
in the mobile home,
877
00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:02,433
and I said,
"You can stay with me."
878
00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:06,020
"Take your things, put
into my truck, we go home."
879
00:51:06,021 --> 00:51:10,983
And since that, I gave him
food, money,
880
00:51:10,984 --> 00:51:12,359
took care of him.
881
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,613
He was like my sister ..
882
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:17,573
younger brother
because of being forced
883
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:20,701
he's older than me
a few months,
884
00:51:20,702 --> 00:51:22,828
but I have to take care of him
because he has nothing.
885
00:51:22,829 --> 00:51:24,580
No have anyone.
886
00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:27,083
Little do I know,
he has a supportive family.
887
00:51:27,084 --> 00:51:29,752
His father and mother
both support.
888
00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:31,295
It's just that he
doesn't want to be set.
889
00:51:31,296 --> 00:51:33,547
He's like me
don't want to follow the rules,
890
00:51:33,548 --> 00:51:35,466
therefore finally
he lives with me ,
891
00:51:35,467 --> 00:51:38,219
& apos; Said his parents,
"works and you can stay here."
892
00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:40,054
He doesn't want to work.
893
00:51:40,055 --> 00:51:44,433
- You've been on a trip
far to Florida.
894
00:51:44,434 --> 00:51:46,060
What is the story?
What happened?
895
00:51:46,061 --> 00:51:47,895
- Basically,
I
896
00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:49,313
what I mean?
897
00:51:49,314 --> 00:51:51,065
I'm not suitable
with nature and insects
898
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:53,400
weather...
899
00:51:53,401 --> 00:51:57,655
So when I was told to follow
a 2-week canoe boat trip
900
00:51:57,656 --> 00:51:59,323
- Which sounds interesting
for me, but...
901
00:51:59,324 --> 00:52:01,117
- Well, I like canoeing,
902
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:02,493
what is the problem...
903
00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:04,036
The problem is not the canoe boat
904
00:52:04,037 --> 00:52:05,579
The natural atmosphere is problematic
905
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:07,498
We see crocodiles everywhere
906
00:52:07,499 --> 00:52:08,874
My question,...
907
00:52:08,875 --> 00:52:10,835
I'm not so sure
will reach your destination...
908
00:52:10,836 --> 00:52:12,378
what happens
if I fall
909
00:52:12,379 --> 00:52:13,754
and eaten by crocodiles?
910
00:52:13,755 --> 00:52:15,256
who is responsible?
911
00:52:15,257 --> 00:52:17,341
Did my parents not
want me again?
912
00:52:17,342 --> 00:52:19,260
Crocodiles are everywhere.
913
00:52:19,261 --> 00:52:21,262
- As a 13-year-old child...
seeing crocodiles so
914
00:52:21,263 --> 00:52:23,055
will run away soon, is that so?
915
00:52:23,056 --> 00:52:24,431
- Yeah.
Well, yeah.
916
00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:26,016
- Then what happened?
You don't....
917
00:52:26,017 --> 00:52:28,310
- About the third or fourth day.
918
00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:32,148
We are boating until before
the night then stops.
919
00:52:32,149 --> 00:52:34,859
I think they have
determine its location,
920
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:36,819
sometimes we stop at midnight.
921
00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:39,196
Lots of insects... you can catch
and your hands are full of insects.
922
00:52:39,197 --> 00:52:40,865
and they told us
to cook dinner,
923
00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:42,575
you know, I can't cook,
924
00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:44,243
One of the goals
the trip is
925
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:45,911
teach the accuracy...
926
00:52:45,912 --> 00:52:48,164
every time there is an action
there will be a reaction,
927
00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:50,124
So the accuracy of
affects our decisions,
928
00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:51,709
one thing I learned is
929
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:53,419
if you don't pay attention to the lesson...
930
00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:54,920
we are given a bag
for equipment,
931
00:52:54,921 --> 00:52:57,506
you have to take care of it properly,
the bag is not waterproof.
932
00:52:57,507 --> 00:52:59,466
I didn't listen,
my bag fell to the water,
933
00:52:59,467 --> 00:53:01,635
all of my stuff is wet,
so my tent isn't there.
934
00:53:01,636 --> 00:53:03,304
I don't have
the toilet is again,
935
00:53:03,305 --> 00:53:04,680
and I don't like it.
936
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:06,682
Basically, I'm stubborn,
937
00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:08,058
I told them
"You know?"
938
00:53:08,059 --> 00:53:09,810
"I don't want to continue.
Take me away. "
939
00:53:09,811 --> 00:53:11,770
- But you weren't attacked by crocodiles...
not a crocodile that's the cause...
940
00:53:11,771 --> 00:53:13,564
- No, we were attacked by monkeys, I recall.
941
00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:14,940
- Monkey. The story?
942
00:53:14,941 --> 00:53:17,026
- The monkeys jumped
from one tree
943
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:18,444
please say
around our location
944
00:53:18,445 --> 00:53:19,987
and try to get close,
945
00:53:19,988 --> 00:53:22,781
don't know the monkey came
from which direction,
946
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,659
very many monkeys
947
00:53:25,660 --> 00:53:27,161
a lot.
948
00:53:27,162 --> 00:53:28,579
I want to get out and catch one,
949
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:30,789
but they say
the monkey is carrying disease
950
00:54:04,866 --> 00:54:06,867
- So... the best possibility,
951
00:54:06,868 --> 00:54:10,246
If you were released in 2041
952
00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:13,165
how old are you going to be?
953
00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:14,667
Has this ever happened?
954
00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:16,210
Do you want to think about it?
955
00:54:16,211 --> 00:54:19,421
- I'm 59, 60.
956
00:54:19,422 --> 00:54:20,798
Now I'm 19.
957
00:54:20,799 --> 00:54:22,633
My law is 40 years,
958
00:54:22,634 --> 00:54:26,887
I'll be my age 59 years old.
959
00:54:26,888 --> 00:54:28,222
is very long.
960
00:54:31,184 --> 00:54:34,353
- enters the stage after
the trial phase is complete,
961
00:54:34,354 --> 00:54:38,732
during your sentence determination,
your father comes to court .
962
00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:41,777
can explain the situation?
963
00:54:43,405 --> 00:54:44,863
- I already know he
will come,
964
00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:47,449
and I know he will
give a testimony,
965
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:50,035
but hear his testimony,
like...
966
00:54:50,036 --> 00:54:51,912
I was born with neuroblastomas.
967
00:54:51,913 --> 00:54:54,957
I got 18 surgeries
at the age of 5,
968
00:54:54,958 --> 00:54:57,418
and I don't know
a lot about that operation,
969
00:54:57,419 --> 00:55:01,338
because it's something embarrassing
and I want to avoid
970
00:55:01,339 --> 00:55:03,924
I know he testified
to relieve me,
971
00:55:03,925 --> 00:55:06,218
I have suffered from a long time ago,
972
00:55:06,219 --> 00:55:08,429
he saw me crying to sleep,
and...
973
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,474
Very difficult,
because I saw him crying.
974
00:55:12,475 --> 00:55:14,059
If you've seen it,
975
00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:18,397
height 6 & 6; 6 ", 6 & apos; 7", weighs 300 pounds,
big body, has a tattoo.
976
00:55:18,398 --> 00:55:20,232
- They picked him up from prison.
977
00:55:20,233 --> 00:55:21,608
- He came from prison.
978
00:55:21,609 --> 00:55:23,777
- Is he still in custody?
979
00:55:23,778 --> 00:55:26,280
- He's across the street
Ellis's unit.
980
00:55:28,283 --> 00:55:30,492
- Mr. Burkett,
how are you?
981
00:55:30,493 --> 00:55:32,619
- I'm fine.
982
00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:34,121
Healthy.
Few diseases.
983
00:55:34,122 --> 00:55:36,123
- How healthy is it?
- Small pain.
984
00:55:36,124 --> 00:55:38,083
- Mm-hmm.
985
00:55:38,084 --> 00:55:40,502
How long is your sentence?
986
00:55:40,503 --> 00:55:41,920
- 40.
987
00:55:41,921 --> 00:55:43,505
- 40 years.
- Yes.
988
00:55:43,506 --> 00:55:45,299
- For eight crimes,
what's true ?
989
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:47,718
- Yes.
- Your punishment is very serious.
990
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,219
- Yes, correct.
991
00:55:49,220 --> 00:55:53,223
- and before you too
ever some
992
00:55:53,224 --> 00:55:54,600
That's right?
993
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:55,976
- Right.
- Yeah.
994
00:55:55,977 --> 00:55:58,479
- I've been jailed 5 times.
995
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,731
- So how many years have it been?
996
00:56:00,732 --> 00:56:02,691
- 2 years sentence, 5 years,
997
00:56:02,692 --> 00:56:05,944
30 years and this is 40 years.
998
00:56:05,945 --> 00:56:07,946
- Lots of it.
- Yes.
999
00:56:07,947 --> 00:56:10,157
- What's the cause?
1000
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:12,493
- Obat-obatan dan alkohol.
1001
00:56:12,494 --> 00:56:14,036
- Can you explain?
1002
00:56:14,037 --> 00:56:18,540
- I started using drugs
when I was 13,
1003
00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:21,085
taking and using drugs,
and,... .
1004
00:56:22,504 --> 00:56:25,339
Selling and producing
1005
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:27,841
stealing and unpacking
1006
00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:29,468
to fulfill my needs
1007
00:56:29,469 --> 00:56:33,472
and always end up in jail
1008
00:56:33,473 --> 00:56:37,559
- There is an important moment
when your child, Jason
1009
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,729
proven guilty of
first-degree murder...
1010
00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:43,107
- Yes.
- With 3 victim.
1011
00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:46,068
Towards the reading of the sentence,
you are present in court.
1012
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:49,822
Can you explain what
you said to the jury?
1013
00:56:53,118 --> 00:56:57,037
- Yahh...
1014
00:56:57,038 --> 00:57:00,207
I explained how
life was imprisoned,
1015
00:57:00,208 --> 00:57:02,876
and I explained...
to them
1016
00:57:02,877 --> 00:57:05,671
that in my opinion, by killing it
1017
00:57:05,672 --> 00:57:11,009
won't return those people,
1018
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:14,388
or can fix
everything that has happened
1019
00:57:14,389 --> 00:57:18,642
and I say
to the jury,
1020
00:57:18,643 --> 00:57:21,437
"Please, don't kill my child."
1021
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:22,813
I ask
1022
00:57:22,814 --> 00:57:25,190
I say
"Please, don't kill him."
1023
00:57:25,191 --> 00:57:28,193
He never gets a chance.
1024
00:57:28,194 --> 00:57:29,778
Don't have a father
1025
00:57:29,779 --> 00:57:32,739
I said that I didn't
have been with him.
1026
00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:34,908
his mother is a single parent
1027
00:57:34,909 --> 00:57:36,785
who has 4 children,
1028
00:57:36,786 --> 00:57:39,663
he get problems
1029
00:57:39,664 --> 00:57:42,166
he can't afford
1030
00:57:42,167 --> 00:57:44,960
All the time,
he lives in disability,
1031
00:57:44,961 --> 00:57:47,379
because of that
they're right- really don't have...
1032
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:49,798
they live on a food stand,
1033
00:57:49,799 --> 00:57:53,093
you know, a HUD type house
1034
00:57:53,094 --> 00:57:56,805
and... he...
he really...
1035
00:57:56,806 --> 00:58:01,602
his life is very poor.
1036
00:58:03,438 --> 00:58:05,564
I asked the jury
not to kill my son
1037
00:58:05,565 --> 00:58:06,940
That's not his fault.
1038
00:58:06,941 --> 00:58:08,901
I wish I...
1039
00:58:08,902 --> 00:58:11,403
I wish I could take
over the sentence.
1040
00:58:11,404 --> 00:58:15,240
I wish it could, because I felt
it is my fault.
1041
00:58:15,241 --> 00:58:17,618
This is really.
1042
00:58:17,619 --> 00:58:19,953
I feel.
1043
00:58:19,954 --> 00:58:22,080
My mistake is as big as the error,
1044
00:58:22,081 --> 00:58:23,749
& apos; because if I am on the side,
1045
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:25,542
there is a possibility, maybe not,
1046
00:58:25,543 --> 00:58:27,544
but... the possibility is a different story.
1047
00:58:27,545 --> 00:58:29,796
He will have
more opportunities good.
1048
00:58:29,797 --> 00:58:32,299
He has more opportunities,
1049
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,968
if I'm there,
help his mother raise him.
1050
00:58:34,969 --> 00:58:36,845
but I'm not there...
1051
00:58:36,846 --> 00:58:39,056
The judges rush to leave,
1052
00:58:39,057 --> 00:58:41,642
and the door is right on my right.
1053
00:58:41,643 --> 00:58:44,978
once the door is closed
after they exit,
1054
00:58:44,979 --> 00:58:47,105
I heard sobs of two women.
1055
00:58:47,106 --> 00:58:49,149
I'm very emotional,
1056
00:58:49,150 --> 00:58:51,652
and cried at that moment,
1057
00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,821
when they passed the door,
and the door was closed,
1058
00:58:54,822 --> 00:58:58,659
I heard 2 women crying.
1059
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:03,330
They cry, and then...
1060
00:59:03,331 --> 00:59:06,333
When my testimony is over,
my lawyer says,
1061
00:59:06,334 --> 00:59:08,835
He says...
I remember the words
1062
00:59:08,836 --> 00:59:11,421
He said, "You saved your child"
1063
00:59:11,422 --> 00:59:12,798
- You saved his life.
1064
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:14,216
- He said... "You saved him"
1065
00:59:14,217 --> 00:59:16,009
I said, "What do you mean?"
1066
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:18,053
He said, "You saved him"
1067
00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:19,930
That saved him...
1068
00:59:19,931 --> 00:59:21,306
there were two voices.
1069
00:59:21,307 --> 00:59:24,810
10 versus 2,
there are 2 votes that choose
1070
00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:28,355
not to kill him.
1071
00:59:28,356 --> 00:59:32,859
I think they are
2 women who are...
1072
00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:36,989
saved him.
1073
00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:39,449
- But you can be proud at that time.
1074
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:41,201
- Yah.
1075
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,290
I got other rocks too.
1076
00:59:46,291 --> 00:59:47,833
God helped me.
1077
00:59:47,834 --> 00:59:49,251
He did it.
1078
00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:51,545
I asked God for help,
and He granted it.
1079
00:59:55,174 --> 00:59:58,885
I don't deserve
getting help
1080
00:59:58,886 --> 01:00:00,887
He may not be worthy of help,
1081
01:00:00,888 --> 01:00:04,933
but we got it
from a real place, so...
1082
01:00:10,607 --> 01:00:12,316
- The hardest part of
when you see it
1083
01:00:12,317 --> 01:00:13,692
and when he sees me,
1084
01:00:13,693 --> 01:00:15,193
and I see him suffering,
1085
01:00:15,194 --> 01:00:16,945
how sorry he is
1086
01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:18,947
what has been done
during my childhood,
1087
01:00:18,948 --> 01:00:20,324
he was jailed at that time.
1088
01:00:20,325 --> 01:00:21,908
I don't blame him,
1089
01:00:21,909 --> 01:00:23,744
but I can see
if he understands
1090
01:00:23,745 --> 01:00:26,246
that what he did has an effect,
and on one day I cried
1091
01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:28,123
after the whole trial was over...
1092
01:00:28,124 --> 01:00:29,708
after the sentence has been decided
1093
01:00:29,709 --> 01:00:33,420
one thing that hurts
is my father's testimony.
1094
01:00:35,256 --> 01:00:38,091
- Every time I come
and give a testimony,
1095
01:00:38,092 --> 01:00:40,218
his brother comes and
gives testimony too...
1096
01:00:40,219 --> 01:00:42,262
His brother Chris, is also in jail.
1097
01:00:42,263 --> 01:00:46,433
and both of us
1098
01:00:46,434 --> 01:00:49,102
came together in the courtroom,
1099
01:00:49,103 --> 01:00:51,104
and then...
I feel embarrassed,
1100
01:00:51,105 --> 01:00:55,442
The three of us, celebrating
thanksgiving together,
1101
01:00:55,443 --> 01:01:00,322
me, Chris and Jason
in the courtroom .
1102
01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:03,867
And they, uh...
1103
01:01:05,995 --> 01:01:07,371
think it's cool,
1104
01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:09,665
but as a father,
it's very embarrassing.
1105
01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:11,750
by being here with my child...
1106
01:01:11,751 --> 01:01:14,628
- they're all imprisoned.
- Yes, sir.
1107
01:01:14,629 --> 01:01:17,756
Then Jason and I were moved
next place,
1108
01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:19,758
in the same hand cuffed,
1109
01:01:19,759 --> 01:01:21,593
and those events have never been
thought in my life
1110
01:01:21,594 --> 01:01:24,805
like dreams... dreams that
really happened,
1111
01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:28,975
the same baby, who we are....
1112
01:01:28,976 --> 01:01:32,771
we must bring it to
bone marrow examination,
1113
01:01:32,772 --> 01:01:34,773
the same baby weighing 6 pounds.
1114
01:01:34,774 --> 01:01:38,944
- Tell me how you feel < br /> when you are being handcuffed together
1115
01:01:38,945 --> 01:01:42,489
with your child on the same bus.
1116
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:43,907
Can you tell me?
1117
01:01:43,908 --> 01:01:46,618
- No, it's hard...
1118
01:01:46,619 --> 01:01:48,870
- Try to tell a little.
1119
01:01:48,871 --> 01:01:51,581
(delete)
1120
01:01:51,582 --> 01:01:54,376
Well, I don't know
1121
01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:56,336
I feel really failed,
1122
01:01:56,337 --> 01:01:58,630
fails to be a father,
1123
01:01:58,631 --> 01:02:00,382
- You can feel
your hands that are very close together?
1124
01:02:00,383 --> 01:02:02,008
- Yes.
1125
01:02:02,009 --> 01:02:04,803
Yes, we handcuffed in my hand
and his right hand.
1126
01:02:04,804 --> 01:02:09,015
and we sit dibus it,
and what I feel...
1127
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:10,642
is a total failure.
1128
01:02:10,643 --> 01:02:12,602
That's what I feel.
1129
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:15,355
I I feel like a loser,
1130
01:02:15,356 --> 01:02:17,023
I say it indirectly
in front of the judges,
1131
01:02:17,024 --> 01:02:18,942
and that's...
1132
01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:20,861
that's what I feel.
1133
01:02:20,862 --> 01:02:23,196
He has been ignored by his father...
1134
01:02:23,197 --> 01:02:26,324
and then, at that place
we sat together
1135
01:02:26,325 --> 01:02:30,495
on the prison bus,
and in my opinion...
1136
01:02:30,496 --> 01:02:34,040
There aren't many things that are more despicable than that...
1137
01:02:34,041 --> 01:02:37,002
I don't know.
1138
01:02:37,003 --> 01:02:39,838
is it me or him,
has a chance
1139
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,633
is out of jail again...
1140
01:02:43,634 --> 01:02:47,387
My law just added
three more years...
1141
01:02:47,388 --> 01:02:49,723
about a week ago...
1142
01:02:49,724 --> 01:02:53,894
We... me or him
will never come out again
1143
01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:55,562
- Jadi dia tidak akan keluar penjara lagi?
1144
01:02:55,563 --> 01:02:57,397
- I think so.
1145
01:02:57,398 --> 01:02:59,399
He will get his conditional
release in...
1146
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,736
in 1942
1147
01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:05,238
- 40 years after he was sentenced punishment.
1148
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:07,240
- Yes, sir, in 1941.
Sorry.
1149
01:03:07,241 --> 01:03:09,242
Yes, sir.
1150
01:03:09,243 --> 01:03:12,662
- Yeah, 2041.
Too late a century...
1151
01:03:12,663 --> 01:03:14,247
- Yes.
- Too late.
1152
01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:17,209
- 19 well, 2041.
Sorry.
1153
01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:19,503
- Well , no problem.
That's where he is free.
1154
01:03:19,504 --> 01:03:20,921
- Very long.
1155
01:03:20,922 --> 01:03:23,715
- Maybe because being here
the time feels different.
1156
01:03:23,716 --> 01:03:25,842
- Yes, sir.
1157
01:04:21,607 --> 01:04:22,983
- Actually this is a car
1158
01:04:22,984 --> 01:04:25,443
that is in the garage of Sandra Stotler.
1159
01:04:25,444 --> 01:04:26,820
This is the first car
1160
01:04:26,821 --> 01:04:32,158
targeted by Michael Perry and Jason Burkett
1161
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:34,244
Three lives were lost because of this car,
1162
01:04:34,245 --> 01:04:35,954
cars that were theirs
1163
01:04:35,955 --> 01:04:39,457
for no more than 72 hours
1164
01:04:41,502 --> 01:04:43,003
in the past few years,
1165
01:04:43,004 --> 01:04:44,880
this car has only become wrecked
1166
01:04:44,881 --> 01:04:46,256
first inside it,
1167
01:04:46,257 --> 01:04:48,341
because there are tree roots from below
1168
01:04:48,342 --> 01:04:50,051
that grew from the bottom
right in the middle of it
1169
01:04:50,052 --> 01:04:51,428
and penetrated the car floor,
1170
01:04:51,429 --> 01:04:56,016
and that made us rather difficult
1171
01:04:56,017 --> 01:04:58,351
when I wanted to move it to this place
1172
01:04:58,352 --> 01:05:00,103
- There is a tree that collides from below.
1173
01:05:00,104 --> 01:05:02,647
- The tree grows from below...
1174
01:05:02,648 --> 01:05:03,982
spreads over the car.
1175
01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:11,990
- What the cause of their deaths?
1176
01:05:11,991 --> 01:05:15,368
- That becomes my question every day
1177
01:05:15,369 --> 01:05:19,664
Because of a car?
1178
01:05:19,665 --> 01:05:22,667
I don't understand...
1179
01:05:22,668 --> 01:05:24,044
I don't understand...
1180
01:05:24,045 --> 01:05:26,254
Every day someone dies,
it feels like someone has become brutal
1181
01:05:26,255 --> 01:05:28,673
you know, for 2 dollars
1182
01:05:28,674 --> 01:05:31,384
People robbing others,
and I don't understand...
1183
01:05:31,385 --> 01:05:32,844
I don't understand
why they die,
1184
01:05:32,845 --> 01:05:35,639
greed of the two young people.
1185
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,057
I don't know
1186
01:05:37,058 --> 01:05:38,725
I haven't found the answer
1187
01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:42,812
p>
1188
01:05:44,273 --> 01:05:47,817
- Can you tell me about the condition you experienced
as a family of murder victims?
1189
01:05:49,403 --> 01:05:50,820
It seems nobody's paying attention to this.
1190
01:05:50,821 --> 01:05:52,989
- I don't know...
1191
01:05:52,990 --> 01:05:55,075
- How do you survive this?
1192
01:05:55,076 --> 01:05:56,493
I got desperate
1193
01:05:56,494 --> 01:06:01,539
Then started a new life again,
1194
01:06:01,540 --> 01:06:06,962
but the point is I am alienating yourself...
1195
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:10,423
In Montgomery there is a
aid program for victims,
1196
01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:13,176
but when... all your
members are taken away from you,
1197
01:06:13,177 --> 01:06:14,761
You will ask,
the meaning of life...?
1198
01:06:14,762 --> 01:06:16,471
What is the point of us staying alive?
1199
01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:18,223
I don't have anyone
to share...
1200
01:06:18,224 --> 01:06:19,599
raising my child.
1201
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,434
I don't want them to live
in sadness
1202
01:06:21,435 --> 01:06:25,146
or stay with a mother who is depressed
throughout their lives.
1203
01:06:25,147 --> 01:06:29,317
For four years,
I didn't go anywhere.
1204
01:06:29,318 --> 01:06:32,404
I'm always at home,
1205
01:06:32,405 --> 01:06:33,822
disconnecting my home phone.
1206
01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:35,198
I don't want to talk with anyone.
1207
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,909
I assume, if I
not close to anyone...
1208
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:39,703
I won't get hurt again.
1209
01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:41,371
I don't know.
1210
01:06:41,372 --> 01:06:44,124
I'm alienating myself...
1211
01:06:44,125 --> 01:06:46,626
My grandmother is in seclusion.
1212
01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:52,173
Our lives are... empty...
1213
01:06:52,174 --> 01:06:53,800
very empty...
1214
01:06:58,889 --> 01:07:00,306
This is Adam,
1215
01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:02,809
when he was 16 years old
1216
01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:05,270
This is his last school photo
1217
01:07:18,659 --> 01:07:21,745
My brother, we are very familiar...
1218
01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:26,332
He is only 16 years old...
1219
01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:28,835
Actually, he is not my younger brother.
1220
01:07:28,836 --> 01:07:31,713
Sisaku...
got pregnant when I was 16 years old,
1221
01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:33,923
then my parents took care of him,
1222
01:07:33,924 --> 01:07:36,968
when he was born, they were all out of town...
1223
01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:39,846
so I'm the first person to carry him,
1224
01:07:39,847 --> 01:07:42,932
and I have felt this
for the rest of my life,
1225
01:07:42,933 --> 01:07:44,642
if something will happen to him,
1226
01:07:44,643 --> 01:07:46,895
I remember, I called my mother
and asked,
1227
01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:48,396
"How is Adam?
Where is he?"
1228
01:07:48,397 --> 01:07:50,482
You have to watch him... < br /> you just moved to Ohio.
1229
01:07:50,483 --> 01:07:52,317
"You have to really
pay attention to it."
1230
01:07:52,318 --> 01:07:54,319
and my mother just answered,
"I've raised 5 children.
1231
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,695
I can take care of it. "
1232
01:07:55,696 --> 01:07:58,114
And when I turned 16,
I know... if...
1233
01:07:58,115 --> 01:07:59,491
He's all right okay.
He has become a man.
1234
01:07:59,492 --> 01:08:01,409
He can take care of himself now.
1235
01:08:02,495 --> 01:08:03,953
He's a great kid.
1236
01:08:03,954 --> 01:08:06,998
Who has felt falling in love
for the first time.
1237
01:08:15,716 --> 01:08:22,889
And, one thing that makes us different,
1238
01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:25,558
my mother always protects me.
1239
01:08:25,559 --> 01:08:29,062
One that I remember,
1240
01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:31,564
I should have married...
1241
01:08:31,565 --> 01:08:34,734
Well, I got married on 16 September 1995,
1242
01:08:34,735 --> 01:08:37,737
my father, mel, a priest,
1243
01:08:37,738 --> 01:08:40,532
he who should have married
me with Kenneth.
1244
01:08:40,533 --> 01:08:42,700
He died six months before the wedding.
1245
01:08:42,701 --> 01:08:47,622
Being hit by a train, he and my elder brother,
1246
01:08:47,623 --> 01:08:49,290
and our family dog.
1247
01:08:49,291 --> 01:08:54,045
then we got married... I refused
married in church,
1248
01:08:54,046 --> 01:08:56,381
so we got married on a boat
on Lake Conroe.
1249
01:08:56,382 --> 01:08:58,299
Right when I walked...
1250
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:00,718
get out of the door,
go down to the court...
1251
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:05,056
my mother put on the marriage certificate of
my book.
1252
01:09:05,057 --> 01:09:06,432
near my heart,
1253
01:09:06,433 --> 01:09:09,352
and said, "I don't want
dad missed this marriage."
1254
01:09:09,353 --> 01:09:11,354
and, you know, that incident...
1255
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:14,774
- You love him.
1256
01:09:14,775 --> 01:09:17,777
- Yes, and I know that time
he feels sad,
1257
01:09:17,778 --> 01:09:22,031
but he hid it
because I was happy.
1258
01:09:22,032 --> 01:09:24,951
He hid it for my sake,
1259
01:09:24,952 --> 01:09:28,329
and he... did this
all day
1260
01:09:30,291 --> 01:09:33,293
I miss them very much.
1261
01:09:33,294 --> 01:09:37,672
Our family is incomplete,
very incomplete.
1262
01:09:41,302 --> 01:09:43,636
Sometimes, when my child asks something,
1263
01:09:43,637 --> 01:09:45,096
I replied, "I don't know."
1264
01:09:45,097 --> 01:09:46,598
I want to know what my mother will be...
1265
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:49,142
many things happened
day and night.
1266
01:09:49,143 --> 01:09:51,060
I want to call and ask
to him.
1267
01:09:51,061 --> 01:09:55,440
I haven't been able to realize
if he's gone.
1268
01:09:55,441 --> 01:09:57,984
I still want to
take the phone and call him
1269
01:09:57,985 --> 01:10:01,654
- this is the reason why
you disconnect the telephone network?
1270
01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:08,995
- Yes, I... don't want to get another
phone
1271
01:10:08,996 --> 01:10:12,832
who reported that
my family died again.
1272
01:10:14,251 --> 01:10:16,044
I can't accept
a phone like that again.
1273
01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:20,381
I'm totally unable to,
1274
01:10:20,382 --> 01:10:24,135
so I'm alienating myself from the outside world.
1275
01:10:26,263 --> 01:10:28,473
I can't...
have a telephone.
1276
01:10:28,474 --> 01:10:30,433
Even to hear
phone ringing sound
1277
01:10:30,434 --> 01:10:33,144
because I got the
news badly from him
1278
01:10:33,145 --> 01:10:34,646
- Worst news.
- Worst.
1279
01:10:34,647 --> 01:10:37,190
- not only bad, yeah.
1280
01:10:37,191 --> 01:10:39,192
You have to... deal with it.
1281
01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:41,444
- Yah.
1282
01:10:41,445 --> 01:10:43,196
What I mean is this,
1283
01:10:43,197 --> 01:10:48,701
I not only lost my mother
and my father and sister
1284
01:10:48,702 --> 01:10:50,536
in a tragic way.
1285
01:10:50,537 --> 01:10:52,205
My grandfather got a stroke.
1286
01:10:52,206 --> 01:10:53,581
My uncle hung himself
1287
01:10:53,582 --> 01:10:56,376
My other uncle overdosed on heroin.
1288
01:10:56,377 --> 01:10:59,754
My adopted brother committed suicide
due to cancer
1289
01:10:59,755 --> 01:11:02,048
My real father died while sleeping.
1290
01:11:02,049 --> 01:11:04,509
1291
01:11:04,510 --> 01:11:07,637
All of this happened in 6 years.
1292
01:11:53,559 --> 01:11:55,977
I lost all my family,
all...
1293
01:11:55,978 --> 01:11:58,938
- Mr. Burkett,
if you close your eyes
1294
01:11:58,939 --> 01:12:02,400
while imagining a different life
1295
01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:05,862
and can repeat everything from the beginning,
1296
01:12:05,863 --> 01:12:07,780
how will you raise your child?
1297
01:12:10,659 --> 01:12:14,203
- Yahh...
1298
01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:16,289
It's hard to answer something
has never been done,
1299
01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:18,166
and, shamefully...
1300
01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:20,418
it's really embarrassing to say,
1301
01:12:20,419 --> 01:12:25,590
I want them to get...
1302
01:12:25,591 --> 01:12:28,134
I got a scholarship
to Texas university
1303
01:12:28,135 --> 01:12:31,095
in 1973, through football,
1304
01:12:31,096 --> 01:12:32,930
and I stopped
school ahead of my final year,
1305
01:12:32,931 --> 01:12:36,768
stop football and quit school
and lose a scholarship,
1306
01:12:36,769 --> 01:12:39,854
I want to be able to return to that time.
1307
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:41,522
- Yes, back then.
1308
01:12:41,523 --> 01:12:43,149
Now you have children.
1309
01:12:43,150 --> 01:12:47,236
- Then I have a child,
and I will....
1310
01:12:47,237 --> 01:12:50,281
Do everything as I can
1311
01:12:50,282 --> 01:12:54,660
to help them finish school
not like me.
1312
01:12:54,661 --> 01:12:56,954
always say to them,
"Don't be like me."
1313
01:12:56,955 --> 01:12:58,498
Well, I want...
1314
01:12:58,499 --> 01:13:01,000
can be more meaningful and
give them something worthy,
1315
01:13:01,001 --> 01:13:03,211
I want them to graduate from school.
1316
01:13:03,212 --> 01:13:05,505
I want to play basball together
like I did
1317
01:13:05,506 --> 01:13:08,174
when I was little
in a small league.
1318
01:13:08,175 --> 01:13:10,009
I want when we play baseball
1319
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:12,637
both of them can make
hit "one time"
1320
01:13:12,638 --> 01:13:15,056
I want us to be able to play together,
1321
01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:17,558
and I want to go to watch
their football match.
1322
01:13:19,603 --> 01:13:23,106
and I developed their talents...
in school to enter FFA
1323
01:13:23,107 --> 01:13:24,649
I want them to be like that.
1324
01:13:24,650 --> 01:13:26,025
we live
1325
01:13:26,026 --> 01:13:28,986
That's my wish if I could go back
for all of us,
1326
01:13:28,987 --> 01:13:32,615
and... they go to school,
1327
01:13:32,616 --> 01:13:33,991
I saw one of my sons
1328
01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:36,077
playing the school bell...
1329
01:13:36,078 --> 01:13:38,663
and... in my opinion...
it's something good.
1330
01:13:38,664 --> 01:13:40,331
it's a beautiful thing,
1331
01:13:40,332 --> 01:13:42,750
and will never happen.
1332
01:14:14,908 --> 01:14:16,409
- I want this conversation to be recorded
1333
01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:18,411
I want to say that my husband
is not a boy scout.
1334
01:14:18,412 --> 01:14:21,038
I didn't say
Jason Burkett at all... .
1335
01:14:21,039 --> 01:14:23,249
doesn't understand anything, like
selling cookies
1336
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:27,253
or looking for funds for camping
when that event occurs
1337
01:14:27,254 --> 01:14:33,759
What I said was that Jason did not
kill one, two or three people.
1338
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,264
Sandra, Jeremy, and Adam
not killed by Jason.
1339
01:14:38,265 --> 01:14:42,643
- You already asked...
1340
01:14:42,644 --> 01:14:45,146
you asked privately,
1341
01:14:45,147 --> 01:14:46,981
"Can you tell me how it happened?
1342
01:14:46,982 --> 01:14:49,609
because of course you want certainty.
1343
01:14:49,610 --> 01:14:51,611
what are you saying?
1344
01:14:51,612 --> 01:14:53,613
- I've said it many times
1345
01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:55,823
so that he tells me everything
I need to know.
1346
01:14:55,824 --> 01:14:57,200
I said, " Jason... "
1347
01:14:57,201 --> 01:14:58,910
Jason doesn't have much money,
1348
01:14:58,911 --> 01:15:00,453
so we sell his things,
1349
01:15:00,454 --> 01:15:03,289
without asking for his approval,
1350
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:07,418
me and his father have done everything
to appeal,
1351
01:15:07,419 --> 01:15:09,462
I always say to him,
1352
01:15:09,463 --> 01:15:11,881
"I need to know all the things
you can tell
1353
01:15:11,882 --> 01:15:13,549
to be able to free you,"
1354
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:15,801
and generally we start
conversations that way
1355
01:15:15,802 --> 01:15:20,389
and Jason will tell you back,
again and again,
1356
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:22,475
it feels like compile a snowman
1357
01:15:22,476 --> 01:15:24,101
like that happened
1358
01:15:24,102 --> 01:15:25,478
- Yah.
1359
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,522
and you are told
if he is innocent
1360
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:29,023
- Yes.
1361
01:15:29,024 --> 01:15:30,775
- and you believe it.
1362
01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:33,194
- I believe it.
1363
01:15:33,195 --> 01:15:37,156
I... want to say, I'm trusting
Jason is indeed involved.
1364
01:15:37,157 --> 01:15:39,867
I can't believe that
he killed 3 people.
1365
01:15:41,245 --> 01:15:42,828
I wrote Jason
for about 2 years
1366
01:15:42,829 --> 01:15:44,455
before I met him,
1367
01:15:44,456 --> 01:15:47,166
because all I could do
was that via email,
1368
01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:49,168
< One day, I talked to his mother,
1369
01:15:49,169 --> 01:15:51,796
and he said something
that pushed me...
1370
01:15:51,797 --> 01:15:53,923
"You can't guess what
Jason said to me today, "
1371
01:15:53,924 --> 01:15:55,341
and I said," What? "
1372
01:15:55,342 --> 01:15:59,470
he said," He said that he
fell in love with you. "
1373
01:15:59,471 --> 01:16:03,140
and I said, "That's crazy."
1374
01:16:03,141 --> 01:16:05,935
I remember... a little so you know...
the beginning of this story,
1375
01:16:05,936 --> 01:16:07,770
I'm with my best friend,
We are hanging out,
1376
01:16:07,771 --> 01:16:09,605
Kat's name, I said...
1377
01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:13,442
"Kat, Jason
Burkett's falling in love with me."
1378
01:16:13,443 --> 01:16:15,194
Answered ,
"Sounds good
1379
01:16:15,195 --> 01:16:16,862
& apos; because you also fall in love with it."
1380
01:16:16,863 --> 01:16:18,823
I said,
"What are you talking about?
1381
01:16:18,824 --> 01:16:20,283
" Don't be stupid, "
1382
01:16:20,284 --> 01:16:22,702
and he said,
" When was the last time
1383
01:16:22,703 --> 01:16:24,161
"Are you dating?
1384
01:16:24,162 --> 01:16:26,539
" When was the last time you
didn't spend your night
1385
01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:28,874
with Jason Burkett's court file? "
1386
01:16:28,875 --> 01:16:31,002
I replied,
"Hey, don't say that."
1387
01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:32,420
But I finally left...
1388
01:16:32,421 --> 01:16:33,838
I still lived in Nebraska at that time.
1389
01:16:33,839 --> 01:16:36,799
I finally got a car from Omaha to Abilene
1390
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,552
because I wanted to
he said it straight away
1391
01:16:39,553 --> 01:16:41,095
and at that time he was swiped by Roberstson
1392
01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:42,888
- You took a car while
2 days 2 nights?
1393
01:16:42,889 --> 01:16:44,348
- Yes.
1394
01:16:44,349 --> 01:16:47,852
I drive myself...
the trip feels like a long way...
1395
01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:49,228
I drive and get there,
1396
01:16:49,229 --> 01:16:50,646
and I remember, I said...
1397
01:16:50,647 --> 01:16:52,231
the words I first said.
1398
01:16:52,232 --> 01:16:54,567
Maybe I should have said
"Hi, we haven't met at all",
1399
01:16:54,568 --> 01:16:55,943
"but... <
1400
01:16:55,944 --> 01:16:57,820
Your mother said, you fell in love with me. "
1401
01:16:57,821 --> 01:16:59,196
I didn't say that.
1402
01:16:59,197 --> 01:17:00,573
I'm a little shy of cats, so I said,
1403
01:17:00,574 --> 01:17:02,742
" Your mother told me that you
conveyed something to her. "
1404
01:17:02,743 --> 01:17:04,368
I said," What...
did you say to him? "
1405
01:17:04,369 --> 01:17:06,245
He replied,
"I want a stamp?"
1406
01:17:06,246 --> 01:17:08,080
and I answered,
"I'm not going to Abilene
1407
01:17:08,081 --> 01:17:09,749
" because you asked for a stamp, right? "
1408
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:11,584
"Don't joke with me."
1409
01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:13,419
And he replied,
"Oh, you mean when I say
1410
01:17:13,420 --> 01:17:15,421
if I fall in love with you?"
1411
01:17:15,422 --> 01:17:17,590
I immediately hung up the phone
because I was very nervous,
1412
01:17:17,591 --> 01:17:18,966
and don't know what to say,
1413
01:17:18,967 --> 01:17:20,885
it feels like I'm coming in vain
1414
01:17:20,886 --> 01:17:23,054
I can't reply right away,
"I love you too."
1415
01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:25,056
it's not like in a movie,
1416
01:17:25,057 --> 01:17:26,474
I'm very nervous.
1417
01:17:26,475 --> 01:17:29,810
I'm not a woman
falling in love with an inmate
1418
01:17:29,811 --> 01:17:32,938
and I feel, alright
It didn't matter,
1419
01:17:32,939 --> 01:17:36,609
then I left,
the day I met Jason,
1420
01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:38,152
there was a rainbow at that place,
and I didn't....
1421
01:17:38,153 --> 01:17:39,654
This is true.
There are filled in our letters.
1422
01:17:39,655 --> 01:17:41,530
There is a rainbow
circular from one fence...
1423
01:17:41,531 --> 01:17:44,950
to the other side of the fence,
1424
01:17:44,951 --> 01:17:48,412
and I think, it's a magic
thing that indicates...
1425
01:17:48,413 --> 01:17:50,289
this guy is my soul mate
1426
01:17:50,290 --> 01:17:51,874
and... he is innocent,
1427
01:17:51,875 --> 01:17:55,795
How often can people see
rainbows in full?
1428
01:17:55,796 --> 01:17:59,799
and we see the rainbow in full
my friend is also present.
1429
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,051
He saw that rainbow too.
There is a witness
1430
01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:03,427
And when Jason...
1431
01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:05,846
When I go home,
there is already a letter in my house,
1432
01:18:05,847 --> 01:18:07,932
it says, "Did you see the rainbow"
1433
01:18:07,933 --> 01:18:10,643
- Fenced in prison.
1434
01:18:10,644 --> 01:18:12,812
- Circles with
one side out towards me,
1435
01:18:12,813 --> 01:18:15,064
goes in the direction of him.
1436
01:18:31,623 --> 01:18:33,791
- I'm sure of myself,
I know if...
1437
01:18:33,792 --> 01:18:36,043
what happened in 2001.
1438
01:18:36,044 --> 01:18:37,545
I'm not part of it,
1439
01:18:37,546 --> 01:18:39,922
and I really believe...
will be my belief ,
1440
01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:41,465
will be my lawyer,
and the best results will be,
1441
01:18:41,466 --> 01:18:43,801
but at the same time,
I ignore these walls.
1442
01:18:43,802 --> 01:18:45,177
I don't want to think about this place,
1443
01:18:45,178 --> 01:18:47,138
because if he is,
people will lose their minds,
1444
01:18:47,139 --> 01:18:49,598
people will...
people will go crazy.
1445
01:18:49,599 --> 01:18:52,017
Not long ago, a man
committed suicide a few days ago,
1446
01:18:52,018 --> 01:18:54,520
and he left a severance contains,
1447
01:18:54,521 --> 01:18:56,480
"Live you guys in
all this madness,
1448
01:18:56,481 --> 01:18:58,023
I go,"
1449
01:18:58,024 --> 01:18:59,859
this happened
because he thought too much about it ,
1450
01:18:59,860 --> 01:19:01,235
but I don't.
1451
01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:02,611
I don't think too much about it.
1452
01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:05,489
I have to turn my attention...
1453
01:19:05,490 --> 01:19:06,907
By staying busy.
Resolve my case.
1454
01:19:06,908 --> 01:19:08,617
I have a wonderful family,
1455
01:19:08,618 --> 01:19:10,494
there are many supporters who help me,
1456
01:19:10,495 --> 01:19:12,413
so many can divert me.
1457
01:19:12,414 --> 01:19:14,123
If I don't have enough transfer,
1458
01:19:14,124 --> 01:19:16,917
the possibility of the situation is different,
1459
01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:20,755
- How did you live your time
in the current situation?
1460
01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:23,549
- Wow, very good...
1461
01:19:23,550 --> 01:19:25,676
is quite diverse, you know...
1462
01:19:25,677 --> 01:19:27,178
I forgot...
1463
01:19:27,179 --> 01:19:28,554
I really forgot,
1464
01:19:28,555 --> 01:19:29,972
and then when I look at the calendar
1465
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:31,599
p>
1466
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,975
or hear someone
talk about it,
1467
01:19:32,976 --> 01:19:35,060
I said to myself, "Geez"
1468
01:19:35,061 --> 01:19:36,645
I sat down, just looked at the wall,
1469
01:19:36,646 --> 01:19:39,774
what happened "I live 8 days,
1470
01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:41,942
7 days, 6 days," or so on...
1471
01:19:41,943 --> 01:19:43,736
it's just that... I can't
understand the reality
1472
01:19:43,737 --> 01:19:45,571
because the day is getting closer,
you know...
1473
01:19:45,572 --> 01:19:47,740
it's hard for me to say it
1474
01:19:47,741 --> 01:19:49,408
like saying to someone
"you know, 8 days,
1475
01:19:49,409 --> 01:19:52,077
this person will kill me, "
1476
01:19:52,078 --> 01:19:53,496
and there is something,
difficult for me...
1477
01:19:53,497 --> 01:19:56,248
it's hard for me to believe
1478
01:19:58,919 --> 01:20:00,669
if Texas wants
to kill me in eight days.
1479
01:20:00,670 --> 01:20:04,632
You know exactly what
will happen on July 1?
1480
01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:07,176
- Well, execution day. Mm-hmm
1481
01:20:07,177 --> 01:20:09,303
- Will you be taken to Huntsville?
1482
01:20:09,304 --> 01:20:11,889
- Right, the Walls Unit.
- The house of death?
1483
01:20:11,890 --> 01:20:13,265
- yes, sir
1484
01:20:13,266 --> 01:20:16,769
- and you will be examined
by the medical team?
1485
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:19,730
- I don't think so... the medical team isn't involved.
1486
01:20:19,731 --> 01:20:21,315
- I think...
1487
01:20:21,316 --> 01:20:23,150
are you ready for execution
1488
01:20:23,151 --> 01:20:25,653
- I haven't heard it yet,
but it might be true.
1489
01:20:25,654 --> 01:20:27,363
- I think it's also one < br /> part of this impossibility.
1490
01:20:27,364 --> 01:20:28,948
For example, if you pass out,
1491
01:20:28,949 --> 01:20:30,324
you can't be executed.
1492
01:20:30,325 --> 01:20:31,700
- Oh, yeah?
1493
01:20:31,701 --> 01:20:33,410
- or if you are considered crazy or something...
1494
01:20:33,411 --> 01:20:35,204
- Well, yeah.
- They won't execute you.
1495
01:20:35,205 --> 01:20:36,580
- Well, that's right.
1496
01:20:36,581 --> 01:20:38,666
- or you're having
gunshot wounds,
1497
01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:42,670
they won't take you
to the execution seat.
1498
01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:44,672
- Right.
1499
01:20:44,673 --> 01:20:46,674
They will take care of me first
and then kill me, ha?
1500
01:20:46,675 --> 01:20:49,176
- Maybe, yes.
1501
01:20:49,177 --> 01:20:52,680
All of this... can be crazy if
think about this, right ?
1502
01:20:56,768 --> 01:20:58,769
Well, I... I don't want to think about it.
1503
01:20:58,770 --> 01:21:00,813
I don't want to imagine
myself lying in the execution chair.
1504
01:21:00,814 --> 01:21:04,233
but if this happened,
I have to be ready, huh?
1505
01:21:04,234 --> 01:21:05,985
I have to accept it
1506
01:21:05,986 --> 01:21:09,196
and I will take care of my mother from heaven
1507
01:21:09,197 --> 01:21:11,323
with full calm
and peace.
1508
01:21:11,324 --> 01:21:13,158
You know, all this time
I like to say,
1509
01:21:13,159 --> 01:21:14,577
I'm not happy in my life,
1510
01:21:14,578 --> 01:21:18,330
so finally I will find peace, huh?
1511
01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:20,082
- And you already feel peaceful
with your situation.
1512
01:21:20,083 --> 01:21:21,458
- Right now.
1513
01:21:21,459 --> 01:21:22,877
- Mm-hmm.
It takes a long time.
1514
01:21:22,878 --> 01:21:24,712
- Yes, of course it is.
1515
01:21:24,713 --> 01:21:27,423
It takes a long time to realize
the meaning " being a real "man.
1516
01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:29,091
I went out there like a child.
1517
01:21:29,092 --> 01:21:31,385
I acted childish
when I first came here,
1518
01:21:31,386 --> 01:21:35,723
but I confident...
who am I now.
1519
01:21:39,519 --> 01:21:42,646
- Michael Perry,
I wish you the best
1520
01:21:42,647 --> 01:21:45,107
- well, thank you.
1521
01:21:45,108 --> 01:21:46,859
I don't know what will happen, huh?
1522
01:21:46,860 --> 01:21:49,570
We'll see.
We will know...
1523
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:51,405
I will know Monday later.
1524
01:22:12,677 --> 01:22:15,095
- I know that what
I said before
1525
01:22:15,096 --> 01:22:17,097
will come true
1526
01:22:17,098 --> 01:22:20,809
I mean, I'm not
want to say something... .
1527
01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:23,812
I want to say what
will happen here
1528
01:22:23,813 --> 01:22:26,690
At 4:00, one person will come,
1529
01:22:26,691 --> 01:22:29,443
and take fingerprints
1530
01:22:29,444 --> 01:22:31,570
Immediately after,
1531
01:22:31,571 --> 01:22:34,573
they allow you to take a shower,
1532
01:22:34,574 --> 01:22:37,242
then you are allowed
the freedom to choose clothes,
1533
01:22:37,243 --> 01:22:39,745
allows you to wear
clothes like normal people.
1534
01:22:39,746 --> 01:22:43,290
Clothes like that
you and me use now.
1535
01:22:43,291 --> 01:22:48,462
at 5:00 to 6:00,
whatever your last request is,
1536
01:22:48,463 --> 01:22:50,172
they will provide,
1537
01:22:50,173 --> 01:22:54,134
and you will sit
and eat your last meal.
1538
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:57,930
During that time, if any
other requests, can be requested.
1539
01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:01,767
want juice, alcoholic drinks...
1540
01:23:01,768 --> 01:23:05,604
or whatever, just ask.
1541
01:23:05,605 --> 01:23:08,148
You know, they...
1542
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:10,734
sometimes there is a strange request.
1543
01:23:10,735 --> 01:23:13,487
and whatever it is, as long as it's still
allowing us to provide it.
1544
01:23:13,488 --> 01:23:15,489
- Give one example of that request
1545
01:23:15,490 --> 01:23:17,658
- Oh, there used to be,
1546
01:23:17,659 --> 01:23:19,827
"A man, he wanted
marijuana cigarettes."
1547
01:23:19,828 --> 01:23:23,956
You know, that's impossible.
1548
01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:27,084
A key holder,
will unlock it,
1549
01:23:27,085 --> 01:23:28,460
then open the door.
1550
01:23:28,461 --> 01:23:30,587
There is another officer behind it
1551
01:23:30,588 --> 01:23:32,715
and one other officer behind me.
1552
01:23:32,716 --> 01:23:35,843
After the door opened,
he followed me in,
1553
01:23:35,844 --> 01:23:37,636
and another officer
1554
01:23:37,637 --> 01:23:39,179
followed from behind him.
1555
01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:41,682
So there were two officers in...
in front of the inmates,
1556
01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:43,851
and 3 officers behind him.
1557
01:23:43,852 --> 01:23:45,561
I told him to go up the execution train,
1558
01:23:45,562 --> 01:23:46,979
then I automatically...
1559
01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:50,190
- It's only a few steps
from cell
1560
01:23:50,191 --> 01:23:55,946
- You could say no more
than 10 steps.
1561
01:23:58,491 --> 01:24:00,367
I will circle the execution train
1562
01:24:00,368 --> 01:24:03,370
because my duty is to tie the left leg.
1563
01:24:03,371 --> 01:24:06,582
As soon as he lies down,
I tie the left leg.
1564
01:24:06,583 --> 01:24:09,001
The other officer in front of me
1565
01:24:09,002 --> 01:24:10,627
will tie right foot.
1566
01:24:10,628 --> 01:24:13,380
The three remaining officers,
1567
01:24:13,381 --> 01:24:16,425
one ties the right hand,
1568
01:24:16,426 --> 01:24:19,261
the other binds the left hand,
1569
01:24:19,262 --> 01:24:23,223
and one guard -guard,
in case the inmate,
1570
01:24:23,224 --> 01:24:25,225
after lying down,
1571
01:24:25,226 --> 01:24:27,853
tries to dodge,
1572
01:24:27,854 --> 01:24:31,440
his duty is holding his shoulders
1573
01:24:31,441 --> 01:24:32,858
You know, you can't...
1574
01:24:32,859 --> 01:24:35,110
as soon as the train goes up,
must stay there
1575
01:24:36,613 --> 01:24:37,988
during that time,
1576
01:24:37,989 --> 01:24:40,074
all four of us will prepare him.
1577
01:24:40,075 --> 01:24:41,992
Maybe around 15 seconds.
1578
01:24:41,993 --> 01:24:44,953
he must be tied up as soon as possible,
1579
01:24:44,954 --> 01:24:47,081
& apos; because we already know where the rope is
1580
01:24:47,082 --> 01:24:48,832
and what we have to do.
1581
01:24:48,833 --> 01:24:53,003
The time needed.
To do that process
1582
01:24:53,004 --> 01:24:54,671
we've trained it.
1583
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,926
That's the last time,
you can see...
1584
01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:01,720
I see it with my eyes open,
1585
01:25:01,721 --> 01:25:03,347
because after the execution is done
1586
01:25:03,348 --> 01:25:05,474
and the process is complete
1587
01:25:05,475 --> 01:25:07,810
then they call the doctor in
1588
01:25:07,811 --> 01:25:11,480
to ensure his death,
1589
01:25:11,481 --> 01:25:13,107
then everyone left.
1590
01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:16,610
Then I started to work again
I have to go inside,
1591
01:25:16,611 --> 01:25:19,571
and... and this part...
1592
01:25:19,572 --> 01:25:21,740
feels difficult
1593
01:25:21,741 --> 01:25:27,037
because for 8 or 10 hours
you sit with him
1594
01:25:27,038 --> 01:25:29,581
all day long,
1595
01:25:29,582 --> 01:25:32,543
and now, the last thing
what you do
1596
01:25:32,544 --> 01:25:35,629
is to take off the string.
1597
01:25:35,630 --> 01:25:37,172
The string must be removed
1598
01:25:37,173 --> 01:25:40,843
and move the body to
the train others for funerals.
1599
01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:42,845
And then, you think...
1600
01:25:42,846 --> 01:25:45,055
You can't think anything
about all of this
1601
01:25:45,056 --> 01:25:48,058
when doing this work,
this procedure.
1602
01:25:48,059 --> 01:25:51,854
don't harbor anything about
all of this
1603
01:25:51,855 --> 01:25:54,022
don't involve emotions at that time
1604
01:25:54,023 --> 01:25:59,736
You do the work,
go home.
1605
01:25:59,737 --> 01:26:04,366
- Approximately how many executions
what have you done?
1606
01:26:04,367 --> 01:26:08,120
- More than 125, 120.
1607
01:26:08,121 --> 01:26:09,830
Approximately 120
1608
01:26:09,831 --> 01:26:11,331
Lots of it.
1609
01:26:11,332 --> 01:26:13,792
We to the point where,
especially after I feel...
1610
01:26:13,793 --> 01:26:17,171
I thought I would be promoted to captain
in the year 90
1611
01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:20,591
we did it twice a week,
1612
01:26:20,592 --> 01:26:23,760
and it's boring.
1613
01:26:23,761 --> 01:26:26,138
- Then what happens?
1614
01:26:26,139 --> 01:26:27,764
(clears throat)
1615
01:26:27,765 --> 01:26:33,270
I... stay when they...
1616
01:26:33,271 --> 01:26:35,564
When they bring
Karla Faye comes in,
1617
01:26:35,565 --> 01:26:37,816
I live there with him.
1618
01:26:37,817 --> 01:26:42,821
He is the first woman
1619
01:26:42,822 --> 01:26:45,657
that we serve before being executed
1620
01:26:45,658 --> 01:26:49,328
one thing I clearly remember,
1621
01:26:49,329 --> 01:26:52,164
about an hour before,
1622
01:26:52,165 --> 01:26:53,540
and I stood there,
1623
01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:55,209
the priest was there too,
1624
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:56,752
and he saw me, and said,
1625
01:26:56,753 --> 01:27:00,756
"Thank you, Captain,
for everything you've done."
1626
01:27:00,757 --> 01:27:02,591
Kubalas, "You're welcome."
1627
01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:05,385
You know, that's all I can say ,
1628
01:27:05,386 --> 01:27:07,137
what can I say again?
1629
01:27:07,138 --> 01:27:12,517
what, "I'm serving you so
ready to be executed one hour later"?
1630
01:27:12,518 --> 01:27:14,102
Time is running...
1631
01:27:14,103 --> 01:27:17,189
procedure and all goes
as it should
1632
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,524
He was declared dead.
1633
01:27:19,525 --> 01:27:21,318
I returned the room
and took the train,
1634
01:27:21,319 --> 01:27:22,778
take off the rope,
1635
01:27:22,779 --> 01:27:24,738
move it to the train
and clear it all
1636
01:27:24,739 --> 01:27:27,491
we lock everything,
and continue the work,
1637
01:27:27,492 --> 01:27:30,410
and... and everything is fine.
1638
01:27:30,411 --> 01:27:32,079
I used to have a small shop in the back.
1639
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,207
It was 6:00,
there was news on the radio,
1640
01:27:35,208 --> 01:27:36,625
and this feeling came back,
1641
01:27:36,626 --> 01:27:42,256
unexpectedly,
for some reason.
1642
01:27:42,257 --> 01:27:48,095
when I heard it, reminded
I saw it in pain,
1643
01:27:48,096 --> 01:27:49,471
I started trembling.
1644
01:27:49,472 --> 01:27:51,890
I don't know what's wrong,
after that...
1645
01:27:51,891 --> 01:27:53,308
- How severe are you trembling?
1646
01:27:53,309 --> 01:27:55,852
- Like... like...
vibrate...
1647
01:27:55,853 --> 01:27:57,229
Bergerak...
1648
01:27:57,230 --> 01:27:59,856
I don't know...
Why am I trembling ??
1649
01:27:59,857 --> 01:28:01,233
Then I realized that...
1650
01:28:01,234 --> 01:28:05,612
I'm sweaty and crying.
1651
01:28:05,613 --> 01:28:09,074
Everything happened suddenly,
and it hurts...
1652
01:28:09,075 --> 01:28:11,785
I remembered him...
it was exactly two days later.
1653
01:28:11,786 --> 01:28:13,912
I remember the day of his execution.
1654
01:28:13,913 --> 01:28:15,789
It made no difference to him
with the others.
1655
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:19,167
but I saw him,
1656
01:28:19,168 --> 01:28:24,881
then other inmates began to look...
1657
01:28:24,882 --> 01:28:29,636
as you asked, "Can I
look into their eyes when... "
1658
01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:31,305
I can see it.
1659
01:28:31,306 --> 01:28:34,891
I see them again,
in the prisoner's cell.
1660
01:28:34,892 --> 01:28:37,644
stand in line,
1661
01:28:37,645 --> 01:28:43,108
and maybe it sounds
like...
1662
01:28:43,109 --> 01:28:44,860
My wife asks,
"What's wrong with you?"
1663
01:28:44,861 --> 01:28:46,320
I answer I don't know.
1664
01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:48,530
I have to talk to someone.
1665
01:28:48,531 --> 01:28:51,241
and the first person
flashed was Carroll,
1666
01:28:51,242 --> 01:28:52,993
Pastor at Pickett,
1667
01:28:52,994 --> 01:28:54,411
he came home,
1668
01:28:54,412 --> 01:28:59,333
We sat in the swing chair,
and I started to calm down.
1669
01:28:59,334 --> 01:29:01,168
and me... he said,
"What happened?"
1670
01:29:01,169 --> 01:29:02,836
then I told you...
1671
01:29:02,837 --> 01:29:04,588
after that, while looking at it
I said ,
1672
01:29:04,589 --> 01:29:06,631
"I can't do it anymore.
1673
01:29:06,632 --> 01:29:09,509
That's enough, I stop."
1674
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:14,181
I don't... can't
go back there again "
1675
01:29:14,182 --> 01:29:18,060
- When do you think you
haven't found yourself being?
1676
01:29:18,061 --> 01:29:23,315
but then you
will be who you really are?
1677
01:29:23,316 --> 01:29:25,192
- Most likely.
1678
01:29:27,195 --> 01:29:28,779
- That thing came
far from the bottom of your heart...
1679
01:29:28,780 --> 01:29:30,155
- Yes.
1680
01:29:30,156 --> 01:29:32,949
- You are aware.
1681
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:35,285
- That's a good thing...
very...
1682
01:29:35,286 --> 01:29:38,330
I mean, from that moment on,
1683
01:29:38,331 --> 01:29:42,834
I have a view of life
1684
01:29:42,835 --> 01:29:45,712
> different.
1685
01:29:45,713 --> 01:29:48,924
If the execution is legal,
1686
01:29:48,925 --> 01:29:51,093
with honesty.
1687
01:29:51,094 --> 01:29:57,557
After Karla... I used to
agree with the death penalty.
1688
01:29:57,558 --> 01:30:00,060
After Karla Faye,
and everything that happened,
1689
01:30:00,061 --> 01:30:02,521
to this day,
11 years after...
1690
01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:07,359
No, sir.
1691
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,028
No one has the right to take someone else's life.
1692
01:30:10,029 --> 01:30:14,699
I don't care if
is in accordance with the law
1693
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:17,869
and it's very easy
to change the law.
1694
01:30:40,601 --> 01:30:43,061
- I... don't want sound,...
1695
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:48,233
like a bad person or...
1696
01:30:48,234 --> 01:30:49,985
but I'm very happy
I was present at the execution.
1697
01:30:49,986 --> 01:30:51,403
I'm happy.
1698
01:30:51,404 --> 01:30:54,781
I struggled with myself...
did I go there.
1699
01:30:54,782 --> 01:30:58,910
I have ordered... a seat
so I have to come,
1700
01:30:58,911 --> 01:31:00,996
I'm glad I've been there.
1701
01:31:00,997 --> 01:31:02,372
I'm very happy.
1702
01:31:02,373 --> 01:31:04,916
I feel something.
1703
01:31:04,917 --> 01:31:09,421
- Yah.
Apa yang anda rasakan?
1704
01:31:09,422 --> 01:31:10,922
- I don't...
know what...
1705
01:31:10,923 --> 01:31:13,717
I don't know what happened,
1706
01:31:13,718 --> 01:31:16,261
but I...
shortly after execution,
1707
01:31:16,262 --> 01:31:18,430
I feel like...
1708
01:31:18,431 --> 01:31:21,725
like, there is a heavy load
that has been released.
1709
01:31:21,726 --> 01:31:24,394
I can breathe a sigh of relief.
1710
01:31:24,395 --> 01:31:29,691
It hurts my heart to diminish.
1711
01:31:29,692 --> 01:31:31,067
I remember when I was walking in
1712
01:31:31,068 --> 01:31:34,112
and I thought,
"She's like a child."
1713
01:31:34,113 --> 01:31:36,323
I had imagined a scary look,
1714
01:31:36,324 --> 01:31:42,662
fierce, like
a killer monster figure.
1715
01:31:42,663 --> 01:31:44,581
and it turns out he was just a boy.
1716
01:31:46,209 --> 01:31:48,460
Still young lying in the train of execution
1717
01:31:57,678 --> 01:32:01,389
When I enter,
he looks at me,
1718
01:32:01,390 --> 01:32:03,934
then turns away,
and looks at me again.
1719
01:32:03,935 --> 01:32:06,144
as done < br /> Jason Burkett when in court.
1720
01:32:06,145 --> 01:32:07,562
I am similar to my mother.
1721
01:32:07,563 --> 01:32:09,439
Very similar to mother.
1722
01:32:10,733 --> 01:32:12,817
- what did he say?
1723
01:32:12,818 --> 01:32:14,486
- He forgives us.
1724
01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:16,863
He forgives us.
1725
01:32:16,864 --> 01:32:18,240
Yah.
1726
01:32:18,241 --> 01:32:20,075
I entered with
1727
01:32:20,076 --> 01:32:21,952
I'm crying.
1728
01:32:21,953 --> 01:32:23,828
My family,... my whole family,
1729
01:32:23,829 --> 01:32:26,831
you know, we don't want
anyone's death.
1730
01:32:26,832 --> 01:32:29,834
Anyone won't want...
to witness such an execution
1731
01:32:29,835 --> 01:32:33,213
but we go there for my mother's sake,
you know, and my sister,
1732
01:32:33,214 --> 01:32:36,258
we cried, when it was said
he forgave us...
1733
01:32:36,259 --> 01:32:37,634
- For what?
1734
01:32:37,635 --> 01:32:39,844
- for his death sentence?
1735
01:32:50,147 --> 01:32:53,984
then he said, < br /> he is ready to die.
1736
01:32:53,985 --> 01:32:56,820
I heard his mother crying,
1737
01:32:56,821 --> 01:33:01,157
then they injected her.
1738
01:33:01,158 --> 01:33:06,162
Her breath panted, 4 times
1739
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:20,802
I see the shirt is beating,
1740
01:33:20,803 --> 01:33:23,179
kau tahu, karena detakan jantungnya.
1741
01:33:23,180 --> 01:33:27,475
I see until the beat stops,
at 6:14
1742
01:33:27,476 --> 01:33:30,353
A drop of tears drops,
one drop
1743
01:33:31,897 --> 01:33:35,108
he's gone.
the execution is complete.
1744
01:33:41,198 --> 01:33:43,575
- What about the possibility
if someone
1745
01:33:43,576 --> 01:33:46,536
is imprisoned for life
without parole,
1746
01:33:46,537 --> 01:33:47,996
are you satisfied...
1747
01:33:47,997 --> 01:33:49,456
- Certainly.
- Yes.
1748
01:33:49,457 --> 01:33:50,874
- Certainly.
1749
01:33:50,875 --> 01:33:55,462
- so that can be used as an alternative...
1750
01:33:55,463 --> 01:33:58,673
because the death penalty
seems too excessive
1751
01:33:58,674 --> 01:34:01,384
as in the old covenant,
God's wrath.
1752
01:34:01,385 --> 01:34:02,761
- Eyes are replaced by eyes.
1753
01:34:02,762 --> 01:34:06,431
- Jesus might not
defend them...
1754
01:34:06,432 --> 01:34:07,891
- Probably not.
1755
01:34:07,892 --> 01:34:10,226
Maybe not.
1756
01:34:10,227 --> 01:34:13,730
But there are humans who are not worthy of life.
1757
01:34:16,609 --> 01:34:18,860
/ p>
1758
01:34:18,861 --> 01:34:20,945
- Can I say something?
- Please
1759
01:34:20,946 --> 01:34:25,116
executing Michael,
1760
01:34:25,117 --> 01:34:28,745
I really know Michael.
1761
01:34:28,746 --> 01:34:30,121
- Yah.
1762
01:34:30,122 --> 01:34:31,498
- I keep abreast of developments...
1763
01:34:31,499 --> 01:34:34,167
with various clippings and websites
1764
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:35,919
things about him and Jason.
1765
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,254
there is one full box.
1766
01:34:38,255 --> 01:34:41,591
So I know everything
like everyone else...
1767
01:34:41,592 --> 01:34:44,928
Michael is just...
he is like Jason...
1768
01:34:44,929 --> 01:34:47,055
They are young,
1769
01:34:47,056 --> 01:34:50,016
are they really
guilty or not, I don't know.
1770
01:34:50,017 --> 01:34:53,520
I'm not there,
but Michael is just a person...
1771
01:34:53,521 --> 01:34:59,317
young people... little children,
and I know him...
1772
01:34:59,318 --> 01:35:02,946
I know when his execution,
I know him...
1773
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:07,242
I know the last word,
I know all,
1774
01:35:07,243 --> 01:35:13,498
By executing Michael,
1775
01:35:13,499 --> 01:35:16,334
I don't think it will return
those killed,
1776
01:35:16,335 --> 01:35:18,628
and still can't
protect anyone ..
1777
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:20,839
won't protect
anyone out there
1778
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,467
as reported,
nothing is protected,
1779
01:35:24,468 --> 01:35:26,886
and I'm not sure that
will solve the problem
1780
01:35:26,887 --> 01:35:31,224
by taking people's lives,
and this hurts.
1781
01:35:31,225 --> 01:35:33,476
The time of execution arrives,
1782
01:35:33,477 --> 01:35:36,438
I know it starts around
at 6:00,
1783
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,940
usually done several
minutes after 6:00,
1784
01:35:38,941 --> 01:35:43,570
I'm kneeling on my bed,
1785
01:35:43,571 --> 01:35:45,989
praying for Michael,
1786
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:49,492
there are feelings that come
1787
01:35:49,493 --> 01:35:52,620
about 5 or 10 minutes
after hours 6:00
1788
01:35:52,621 --> 01:35:55,290
the feeling that comes to me
is difficult...
1789
01:35:55,291 --> 01:35:56,875
very, very difficult to explain.
1790
01:35:56,876 --> 01:36:00,545
Like feeling lost...
1791
01:36:00,546 --> 01:36:03,673
the person who used to be
a good friend of my child.
1792
01:36:03,674 --> 01:36:06,050
I feel...
I feel that...
1793
01:36:06,051 --> 01:36:09,637
I feel tortured
when they kill him.
1794
01:36:12,141 --> 01:36:13,516
I can only hope for his family.
1795
01:36:13,517 --> 01:36:15,351
every member of his family
knows what I feel,
1796
01:36:15,352 --> 01:36:19,564
how much I was hurt
for their loss.
1797
01:36:19,565 --> 01:36:21,858
This is very important, < br /> and Michael never,...
1798
01:36:21,859 --> 01:36:23,276
makes them sad,
1799
01:36:23,277 --> 01:36:26,154
because Michael never
tried to contact them.
1800
01:36:26,155 --> 01:36:28,239
I hope to convey my apologies.
1801
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,491
- Yah.
1802
01:37:40,062 --> 01:37:42,188
Melyssa, let me submit
one thing.
1803
01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:44,941
Among the death row inmates,
1804
01:37:44,942 --> 01:37:49,737
there is a phenomenon with the presence of
sympathizers of prisoners for life,
1805
01:37:49,738 --> 01:37:55,243
as well as
sympathizers / fans of rock singers,
1806
01:37:55,244 --> 01:37:57,078
you've met
with a woman like that.
1807
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:59,080
- I've met them,
full of sincerity.
1808
01:37:59,081 --> 01:38:01,583
I've also met a
woman who married a prisoner for life
1809
01:38:01,584 --> 01:38:04,627
having a relationship with commitment
1810
01:38:04,628 --> 01:38:07,255
I'm sure the relationship
is full of sincerity
1811
01:38:07,256 --> 01:38:09,757
that comes from
the bottom of their hearts.
1812
01:38:09,758 --> 01:38:12,093
You know, there are people who really
destined to be together,
1813
01:38:12,094 --> 01:38:15,138
even if separated by
cell or law officer.
1814
01:38:15,139 --> 01:38:16,556
I believe that.
1815
01:38:16,557 --> 01:38:17,932
I mean, I believe if
1816
01:38:17,933 --> 01:38:20,101
not a few women who want to get attention,
1817
01:38:20,102 --> 01:38:23,813
who are looking for fame,
who are looking for bad reputation men.
1818
01:38:23,814 --> 01:38:26,274
like Scott Peterson
who received 100 letters a day.
1819
01:38:26,275 --> 01:38:27,650
during a life sentence in California.
1820
01:38:27,651 --> 01:38:29,027
That's ridiculous...
1821
01:38:29,028 --> 01:38:30,445
- He killed his wife
/> who is pregnant
1822
01:38:30,446 --> 01:38:31,821
- Yes.
1823
01:38:31,822 --> 01:38:34,115
- Is that really the case?
Well... a handsome man.
1824
01:38:34,116 --> 01:38:35,491
- A handsome man.
1825
01:38:35,492 --> 01:38:40,330
- however, Jason
is also not a bad guy.
1826
01:38:40,331 --> 01:38:42,457
Describe it to us?
1827
01:38:42,458 --> 01:38:45,043
- physically?
- Yes.
1828
01:38:45,044 --> 01:38:47,545
You can only touch his hand.
1829
01:38:47,546 --> 01:38:49,505
Describe how his hand is.
1830
01:38:52,343 --> 01:38:53,843
- His hand is far more
bigger than my hand.
1831
01:38:53,844 --> 01:38:56,304
I started from that. < br /> My hands are really small.
1832
01:38:56,305 --> 01:38:58,973
He always... Jason
holds deng fun
1833
01:38:58,974 --> 01:39:01,434
he always holds my hand
like this
1834
01:39:01,435 --> 01:39:05,396
with the opposite connection,
that's how he holds me,
1835
01:39:05,397 --> 01:39:08,066
and I know his hand
is very large.
1836
01:39:08,067 --> 01:39:11,069
because of the size of the ring 11
1837
01:39:11,070 --> 01:39:14,530
Our marriage ring,
as heavy as 111/2,
1838
01:39:14,531 --> 01:39:18,534
for me 4, so his hand really
can close my hand
1839
01:39:22,498 --> 01:39:24,832
- You are allowed
to touch each other?
1840
01:39:24,833 --> 01:39:26,459
Hugs each other?
1841
01:39:26,460 --> 01:39:28,127
exchange rings?
1842
01:39:28,128 --> 01:39:31,506
- No.
1843
01:39:31,507 --> 01:39:33,633
I still don't wear a ring.
1844
01:39:33,634 --> 01:39:37,220
- You keep being separated
a glass wall or...
1845
01:39:37,221 --> 01:39:39,013
- Just like this
1846
01:39:39,014 --> 01:39:40,723
except by telephone,
1847
01:39:40,724 --> 01:39:44,435
we are separated by glass
1848
01:39:44,436 --> 01:39:47,689
- But when he visits you,
are you allowed to hug him?
1849
01:39:47,690 --> 01:39:49,273
- Now you can.
1850
01:39:49,274 --> 01:39:51,234
After we get married,
I am allowed.
1851
01:39:51,235 --> 01:39:54,696
I may kiss it
before and after the visit.
1852
01:39:54,697 --> 01:39:56,572
We may hold hands
on the table.
1853
01:39:56,573 --> 01:39:58,199
can contact each other and talk to each other.
1854
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,703
- But of course...
there is a guard
1855
01:40:01,704 --> 01:40:04,539
- as close as our current distance
1856
01:40:04,540 --> 01:40:06,416
- You want to have children.
1857
01:40:06,417 --> 01:40:07,792
- Yes, sir.
1858
01:40:07,793 --> 01:40:10,003
- Bagaimana bisa?
1859
01:40:10,004 --> 01:40:12,380
How... what choices do
you have?
1860
01:40:12,381 --> 01:40:14,590
- I want 50 children.
He wants 2.
1861
01:40:14,591 --> 01:40:17,427
I mean,
we have to do it.
1862
01:40:17,428 --> 01:40:20,680
I want children
for different reasons.
1863
01:40:20,681 --> 01:40:23,975
I want a child from him
because I love him.
1864
01:40:23,976 --> 01:40:25,476
I want to be with him.
1865
01:40:25,477 --> 01:40:30,898
I want to give him something
that will belong to both of us
1866
01:40:30,899 --> 01:40:32,942
- I'm very impressed
meet you at this time.
1867
01:40:32,943 --> 01:40:37,405
because you were pregnant
only a few days
1868
01:40:37,406 --> 01:40:41,242
after we met your husband.
1869
01:40:41,243 --> 01:40:43,953
- Did you meet him on the date
October 18?
1870
01:40:43,954 --> 01:40:45,788
- Looks like , well,
that's about it.
1871
01:40:45,789 --> 01:40:48,416
- Well, my guess is that my baby "has"
1872
01:40:48,417 --> 01:40:51,461
since around October 23,
1873
01:40:51,462 --> 01:40:52,962
- After we met your husband,
1874
01:40:52,963 --> 01:40:56,299
- 23 or 24.
1875
01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:59,302
- You "do it".
1876
01:40:59,303 --> 01:41:03,431
Something like that.
1877
01:41:03,432 --> 01:41:07,393
- The father of this baby is your husband.
1878
01:41:07,394 --> 01:41:09,937
- Legally Jason.
1879
01:41:09,938 --> 01:41:13,232
- and biologically Jason...
1880
01:41:13,233 --> 01:41:16,152
- You can't say that.
- In a different connection.
1881
01:41:16,153 --> 01:41:20,907
You are only allowed to hold hands,
1882
01:41:20,908 --> 01:41:24,243
how can you get pregnant?
1883
01:41:24,244 --> 01:41:25,787
Like there is & apos; mystery & apos;
1884
01:41:25,788 --> 01:41:27,789
- Well, you could say that.
1885
01:41:27,790 --> 01:41:30,625
There are other people involved,
I don't want to call it.
1886
01:41:30,626 --> 01:41:34,462
- No, we're not accusing someone...
1887
01:41:34,463 --> 01:41:37,465
but I'm speculating.
1888
01:41:37,466 --> 01:41:43,346
Is there really some kind of
back door in prison,
1889
01:41:43,347 --> 01:41:48,559
like for example, drugs,
cellphones, dark messages,
1890
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,896
what is behind this,
1891
01:41:51,897 --> 01:41:56,234
smuggling inmates out of prison,
1892
01:41:56,235 --> 01:41:58,361
then you can get pregnant.
1893
01:41:58,362 --> 01:41:59,737
- Well, we...
1894
01:41:59,738 --> 01:42:01,197
- Bisa kami simpulkan seperti itu?
1895
01:42:01,198 --> 01:42:05,701
- We... prefer to say
if I follow "artificial fertilization".
1896
01:42:17,923 --> 01:42:21,592
- Have a name for the baby?
1897
01:42:21,593 --> 01:42:23,928
- Well, his first name is Easton
1898
01:42:23,929 --> 01:42:26,681
Easton Aaron.
1899
01:42:26,682 --> 01:42:28,683
- Can you show it?
It looks like his face has been seen.
1900
01:42:28,684 --> 01:42:31,352
Can you show it?
- Right here.
1901
01:42:31,353 --> 01:42:34,689
If you look closely,
1902
01:42:34,690 --> 01:42:37,650
can be seen if my baby
has a strong jaw.
1903
01:42:51,206 --> 01:42:53,374
Life is for kids.
1904
01:42:53,375 --> 01:42:55,543
and the love they get.
1905
01:42:55,544 --> 01:42:57,628
is the provision for their lives.
1906
01:42:57,629 --> 01:42:59,005
My parents have died,
1907
01:42:59,006 --> 01:43:00,673
and feel a deep emptiness
This is in my heart,
1908
01:43:00,674 --> 01:43:03,718
then I realize
if my responsibility is,
1909
01:43:03,719 --> 01:43:07,680
continue all the
love I have ever gotten first,
1910
01:43:09,558 --> 01:43:12,101
that's what is especially true.
1911
01:43:43,091 --> 01:43:47,136
- I hanged this shirt
on the wall of my room.
1912
01:43:47,137 --> 01:43:49,931
- Can I see the clothes?
Can it be rotated?
1913
01:43:54,728 --> 01:43:59,190
- I just want to make sure... < br /> someone told me about...
1914
01:43:59,191 --> 01:44:01,359
underwent & apos; line & apos; you,
1915
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,737
and that is true,
after all this...
1916
01:44:04,738 --> 01:44:06,656
what I have lived,
then stop and so on,
1917
01:44:06,657 --> 01:44:10,409
then I heard the story
about & apos; go with your account & apos;
1918
01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:12,870
How do we & apos; undergo the line & apos; us?
1919
01:44:12,871 --> 01:44:14,247
I don't understand.
1920
01:44:14,248 --> 01:44:15,831
"What is meant by & apos; line & apos;?"
1921
01:44:15,832 --> 01:44:18,251
& apos; Lines & apos; what is meant by
is a tombstone
1922
01:44:18,252 --> 01:44:20,378
There is a date of birth,
1923
01:44:20,379 --> 01:44:22,546
and there is also a date of death,
1924
01:44:22,547 --> 01:44:24,382
and in the middle there is & apos; line & apos;
1925
01:44:24,383 --> 01:44:26,968
That is the life we are living.
1926
01:44:26,969 --> 01:44:29,303
That's where all of
1927
01:44:29,304 --> 01:44:31,639
at birth until the time of your death.
1928
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,766
How are you going to go through that line?
1929
01:44:33,767 --> 01:44:35,893
And that's where I am right now.
1930
01:44:35,894 --> 01:44:40,648
I will undergo & apos; line & apos; ku
and make sure that everything...
1931
01:44:40,649 --> 01:44:45,069
try everything that is useful
for family and many people.
1932
01:44:45,070 --> 01:44:49,699
with pleasure in undergoing it
and watching what happens.
1933
01:44:49,700 --> 01:44:53,077
When you go through
your life like that,
1934
01:44:53,078 --> 01:44:55,955
you will enjoy a beautiful life.
1935
01:44:55,956 --> 01:45:00,376
you can... realize there will be many things
that can be done,
1936
01:45:00,377 --> 01:45:06,839
as can be done
by birds, ducks, hummingbirds.
1937
01:45:07,972 --> 01:45:17,907
For Lisa Stotler Balloun, Charles Richardson < br /> and all families of victims of criminality.