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<i>Orange County Fire Rescue.</i>

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<i>6600 Sea Harbor Drive.</i>

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<i>SeaWorld Stadium.</i>

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<i>Okay.</i>

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<i>We actually have a trainer in the water</i>

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<i>with one of our whales...</i>

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<i>The whale that they're not supposed
to be in the water with.</i>

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<i>Okay.
We'll get somebody en route.</i>

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<i>Okay, through gate #3 to Shamu Stadium.</i>

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<i>Gate 3.</i>

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<i>Orange County Sheriff's Office.</i>

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<i>We need SO to respond</i>

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<i>for a dead person at SeaWorld.</i>

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<i>Uh, a whale has eaten one of the trainers.</i>

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<i>A whale ate one of the trainers?</i>

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<i>That's correct.</i>

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<i>Do you believe?</i>

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My parents first brought
me to a SeaWorld park

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when I was very young.

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From that point forward, I was hooked.

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It meant everything to me because

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I'd never wanted anything more.

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I remember being probably
in first or second grade

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watching National Geographic specials

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or Mutual of Omaha specials

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and seeing whales and seeing dolphins
and as a little kid

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just being really
incredibly inspired by it.

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I never went to SeaWorld.

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I grew up in New York,
so I went to the Bronx Zoo.

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Grew up on a lake with horses.
We'd swim the horses.

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I grew up around the ocean.

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I came from the middle of the country
in flatland Kansas.

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I'm from Virginia.

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Traveled down, did the theme park thing

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in Orlando when I was 17

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and saw the night show at Shamu Stadium.

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Very emotional, you know, popular music.

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And I was just... I was very driven
to want to do that.

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Then I saw what the trainers did...

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and I said,
"That's what I want to do."

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One of the trainers there, he goes,

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"What are you doing out there?
You should be a trainer."

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I go, "I don't know how to train animals."

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I've never trained animals
in my life."

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<i>How do you prepare
yourself for an encounter</i>

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<i>with an 8,000-pound Orcinus orca?</i>

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I always thought
you needed, like, a master's degree

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in marine biology to be a trainer.

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<i>It takes years of study and experience</i>

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<i>to meet the strict requirements necessary</i>

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<i>to interact in the water with Shamu.</i>

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Come to find out, it really is more about

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your personality and how good you can swim.

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I went and tried out,
got the job right away.

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I'm like, "Yeah!"
So excited, you know.

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I was so, so excited.

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I really wanted to be there.
I really wanted to do the job.

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I couldn't wait to get in the water
with the animals.

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I really was proud of
being a SeaWorld trainer.

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You know, I thought this was
the most amazing job.

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I showed up there on my first day,
not really knowing what to expect.

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I was told to put on a wetsuit
and get in the water.

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<i>Hi, Mom!</i>

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Oh, I was scared out of my wits.

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First of all, I put my wetsuit on backwards

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because I was raised on a farm in Virginia.

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- <i>Hi, Dad!</i>
- My first thought

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and memory of that time
was that dolphins are a lot bigger...

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...heh, than they look

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when you get in the water next to them.

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Well, I watched the Sea Lion & Otter Show,

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and this guy, Mike Morocco,

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he comes out during the show
with a dress on as Dorky,

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the alter ego of Dorothy...

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In a dress with a sea lion,
the Coward Sea Lion, right?

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And he's walking along
with this little basket,

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and I go, "I will never,
ever do that."

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You know? Two months later...

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Hi, I'm Dorky!

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Walking out onstage with a sea lion.

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I was overwhelmed and I was so excited.

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I mean, just seeing a killer whale...

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is breathtaking.

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I was just in awe.

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It's shocking to see how large they are

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and how beautiful they are.

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Being in the presence of the killer whales

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was just inspiring and amazing,

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and I remember seeing
them for the first time,

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just not being able to believe
how huge they were.

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You're there because you want to train
killer whales and that's your goal.

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Yay!

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I didn't know it was going to happen,

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so I wasn't expecting it.

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And one day they say,
"Okay, Sam, you're ready to go."

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Come on, you got it.

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"You're going to stand on the whale."

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You're going to dive off the whale.

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The whale's going to swim under you
and pick you up again.

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"And then you're going to do
a perimeter ride around the pool."

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Good!

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Keep moving.
Ride him to the slide-out.

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They just told me to go do it and I did it.

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Wow, I did... I just rode
a killer whale.

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Yay, girly!

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When you look into their eyes,
you know somebody is home.

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Somebody's looking back.

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You form a very personal relationship
with your animal.

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There's something absolutely amazing

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about working with an animal.

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You are a team.

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You build a relationship together.

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You both understand the goal
and you help each other.

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I've been with this whale
since I was 18 years old

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and I've seen her have
all four of her babies.

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We've grown up together. Huh?

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That's the joy I got out of it.

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It's a relationship like I've never had.

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<i>Bro, I have to know... are you nervous?</i>

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<i>I'm scared.</i>

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- Oh, no.
- Nice hair, Jeff.

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<i>Did you see anything?</i>

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<i>Projection for the future of Jeff Ventre.</i>

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<i>Jeff Ventre is going to go over there,
he's going to shine.</i>

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- <i>You're going to notice...</i>
- Dawn.

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- Oh, that's Dawn.
- Wow.

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<i>He's going to be my supervisor one day.</i>

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<i>There you go.</i>

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I knew Dawn when she was new.

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She was a great person to work with

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and she obviously blossomed
into one of SeaWorld's best trainers.

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<i>This is Dawn Brancheau.</i>

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<i>Dawn is the senior trainer
here at Shamu Stadium.</i>

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I guess you could say
I kind of knew Dawn in a past life.

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<i>It's a tough job, isn't it?</i>

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<i>Yeah, we really do go through
a lot of physical exertion.</i>

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<i>You can see in the show
we do a lot of deepwater work,</i>

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<i>breath holds, very high-energy
behaviors with animals.</i>

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<i>Obviously they're giving out
a lot of energy too,</i>

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<i>but we're working together
and having a lot of fun as well.</i>

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She's beautiful, she's blonde,
she's athletic, she's friendly.

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You know, everybody loves Dawn.

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<i>And I mean this so sincerely,</i>

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<i>watching you perform yesterday...
You're amazing.</i>

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<i>- Thank you.
- You really are.</i>

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She captured what it means
to be a SeaWorld trainer.

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She had so much experience
that it made me realize

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what happened to her
really could have happened to anyone.

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<i>This is Detective Revere</i>

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<i>with the Orange County Sheriff's Office.</i>

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<i>Today's date is February 24, 2010.</i>

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<i>The time is 4:16.</i>

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<i>In the room with me right now
is a Thomas George Tobin.</i>

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<i>- Is that correct?
- Correct.</i>

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<i>- So the arm is nowhere...
- Right.</i>

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OSHA, on behalf of the federal government,

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is basically suggesting
that swimming with orcas

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is inherently dangerous
and that you can't completely predict

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the outcome when you enter the water
or enter their environment.

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That's the crux of the OSHA case.

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Stay out of proximity with the animals
and you won't get killed.

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It will have a ripple effect
through the whole industry.

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<i>This was national headline news.</i>

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<i>SeaWorld's whale performances</i>

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<i>may never be the same.</i>

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<i>Right now the theme park
is arguing in court</i>

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<i>to keep whale trainers in the water,</i>

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<i>something OSHA says is extremely dangerous.</i>

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<i>These are wild animals,
and they are unpredictable</i>

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<i>because we don't speak whale.</i>

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<i>We don't speak whale, we don't speak tiger,</i>

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<i>we don't speak monkey.</i>

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<i>And tempers flared between
the two sides today</i>

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<i>when OSHA's attorney suggested
that SeaWorld only made changes</i>

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<i>after trainer Dawn Brancheau's death
outraged the public.</i>

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<i>OSHA doesn't want
the trainers going back in the water</i>

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<i>without a physical barrier
between them and the whales.</i>

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<i>Being in close proximity
to these top predators is too dangerous.</i>

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<i>They won't then be getting in the water</i>

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<i>riding on the whales, things like that.</i>

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<i>If you were in a bathtub for 25 years,
don't you think you'd get</i>

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<i>a little irritated, aggravated,
maybe a little psychotic?</i>

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The situation with Dawn Brancheau...
It didn't just happen.

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It's not a singular event.

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You have to go back over 20 years
to understand this.

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It was a really exciting thing to do

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and so everybody wanted to do it.

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What were they telling you
you were going to do?

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Mm, capture orcas.

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Whoo-hoo!

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They had aircraft,

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they had spotters, they had speedboats,

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they had bombs they were
throwing in the water.

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They were lighting their bombs
with acetylene torches in their boats

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and throwing them as fast as they could

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to herd the whales into coves.

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Whoo!

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But the orcas had been caught before

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and they knew what was going on

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and they knew their young ones
would be taken from them.

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So the adults without young
went east into a cul-de-sac

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and the boats followed them,
thinking they were all going that way,

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while the mothers with babies went north.

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But the capture teams had aircraft.

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And they have to come
up for air eventually.

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And when they did,
the capture teams alerted the boats

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and said, "Oh, no, they're going north...
The ones with babies."

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So the boats... the speedboats
caught them there

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and herded them in.

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And then they had fishing
boats with seine nets

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that they would stretch across
so none could leave

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and then they could just pick out
the young ones.

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We were only after the little ones.

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And a little one is, you know,
a big animal still.

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But I was told because of shipping costs

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that's why they only take the little ones.

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They had the young ones
that they wanted in the corrals,

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so they dropped the seine nets.

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And all the others could have left,
but they stayed.

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We're there, trying to get
the young orca into the stretcher,

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and the whole famn damily is out here,

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25 yards away maybe,

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in a big line...

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...and they're communicating
back and forth.

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Well...

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you understand then what
you're doing, you know.

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I... I lost it.

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I mean, I just started crying.

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I didn't stop working,

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but I...

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you know, I just couldn't handle it.

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Just like kidnapping a little kid
away from their mother.

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Everybody's watching.
What can you do?

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It's the worst thing I
can think of, you know?

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I can't think of anything worse than that.

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Now, and this really sounds bad,

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but when the whole hunt was over,

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there were three dead whales in the net.

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And...

240
00:13:19,916 --> 00:13:23,962
so they had Peter and Brian and I...

241
00:13:24,963 --> 00:13:29,217
cut the whales open, fill them with rocks,

242
00:13:29,384 --> 00:13:31,761
put anchors on their tail, and sink them.

243
00:13:33,889 --> 00:13:35,432
Well...

244
00:13:36,892 --> 00:13:38,643
you know...

245
00:13:39,895 --> 00:13:42,606
really, I didn't even think about it

246
00:13:42,772 --> 00:13:44,483
being illegal at that point.

247
00:13:44,649 --> 00:13:46,776
I thought it was a PR thing.

248
00:13:47,777 --> 00:13:51,448
They were finally ejected
from the State of Washington

249
00:13:51,615 --> 00:13:54,451
by a court order in 1976.

250
00:13:54,618 --> 00:13:57,078
It was SeaWorld by name that was told,

251
00:13:57,245 --> 00:14:00,457
"Do not come back to Washington
to capture whales."

252
00:14:00,624 --> 00:14:04,794
Without missing a beat, they went
from Washington to Iceland

253
00:14:04,961 --> 00:14:06,963
and began capturing there.

254
00:14:10,675 --> 00:14:13,637
I've been part of a revolution
and two change of presidents

255
00:14:13,803 --> 00:14:16,097
in Central and South America...

256
00:14:17,516 --> 00:14:21,186
and seen some things
that's hard to believe,

257
00:14:21,353 --> 00:14:24,648
but this is the worst thing
that I've ever done...

258
00:14:25,732 --> 00:14:27,651
Is hunt that whale.

259
00:15:03,895 --> 00:15:07,274
<i>Sealand has been
a part of Victoria for over 20 years.</i>

260
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,319
<i>We specialize in the care
and display of killer whales.</i>

261
00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:16,366
By the time I started, when he was four,

262
00:15:16,533 --> 00:15:20,370
he was up to 16 feet long
and weighed 4,000 pounds.

263
00:15:22,956 --> 00:15:24,082
<i>Tilikum, up again.</i>

264
00:15:24,249 --> 00:15:25,667
<i>Thank you.</i>

265
00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:28,128
I had actually seen Tilikum
quite a number of times.

266
00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:31,381
He was right across the
street here in Victoria.

267
00:15:31,548 --> 00:15:33,550
<i>Now, this show
can get a little bit soggy at times.</i>

268
00:15:33,717 --> 00:15:36,720
All Sealand was was a
net hanging in a marina

269
00:15:36,886 --> 00:15:38,888
with a float around it.

270
00:15:40,098 --> 00:15:43,184
Tilikum was the one
we really loved to work with.

271
00:15:43,351 --> 00:15:47,188
He was very well behaved
and he was always eager to please.

272
00:15:47,355 --> 00:15:50,609
When he was first introduced,
everything just went fine and dandy,

273
00:15:50,775 --> 00:15:53,194
but the previous head trainer

274
00:15:53,361 --> 00:15:55,864
used techniques that involved punishment.

275
00:15:56,031 --> 00:16:00,118
He would team a trained orca up
with Tilikum who was untrained.

276
00:16:00,285 --> 00:16:02,954
He would send them both off
to do the same behavior.

277
00:16:03,121 --> 00:16:06,791
If Tilikum didn't do it,
then both animals were punished.

278
00:16:06,958 --> 00:16:09,252
Deprived of food to keep them hungry,

279
00:16:09,419 --> 00:16:12,213
this caused a lot of frustration
with the larger animal,

280
00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:13,673
the established animal,

281
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,217
and would in turn get
frustrated with Tilikum

282
00:16:16,384 --> 00:16:18,803
and would rake him with his teeth.

283
00:16:18,970 --> 00:16:20,972
There would be times during certain seasons

284
00:16:21,139 --> 00:16:24,559
that Tilikum would be covered
head to toe with rakes.

285
00:16:24,726 --> 00:16:27,479
Rakes are teeth on teeth
and raking the skin.

286
00:16:27,646 --> 00:16:29,481
And from head to toe you could see blood

287
00:16:29,648 --> 00:16:33,401
and you could see scratches,
and he would just be raked up.

288
00:16:33,568 --> 00:16:35,987
Both females would gang up on him.

289
00:16:36,154 --> 00:16:37,697
Tilikum was the one we trusted.

290
00:16:37,864 --> 00:16:40,075
We never were concerned about Tilikum.

291
00:16:40,241 --> 00:16:43,411
The issue was really that we stored
these whales at night

292
00:16:43,578 --> 00:16:46,748
in what we call a module,
which was 20 feet across

293
00:16:46,915 --> 00:16:50,418
and probably 30 feet deep
as a safety precaution

294
00:16:50,585 --> 00:16:53,189
because we were worried about people
cutting the net and letting them go.

295
00:16:53,213 --> 00:16:56,132
And the lights were all turned out,
so there was really no stimulation.

296
00:16:56,299 --> 00:17:00,303
They're just in this dark,
metal 20x30-foot pool

297
00:17:00,470 --> 00:17:02,722
for two-thirds of their life.

298
00:17:06,726 --> 00:17:08,186
When we first started,

299
00:17:08,353 --> 00:17:10,188
they were quite small and quite young.

300
00:17:10,355 --> 00:17:11,898
So they fit in there quite nicely,

301
00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:14,943
but they were immobile for the most part.

302
00:17:16,778 --> 00:17:19,489
It didn't feel good.
It just didn't.

303
00:17:19,656 --> 00:17:21,533
And it was just wrong.

304
00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:23,743
We started having
difficulty getting them all

305
00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:27,372
into this one small steel
box, to be honest.

306
00:17:27,539 --> 00:17:29,457
That's what it was.
It was a floating steel box.

307
00:17:29,624 --> 00:17:31,384
That's where food
deprivation would come in.

308
00:17:31,501 --> 00:17:34,129
We would hold back food,

309
00:17:34,295 --> 00:17:35,773
and they would know if
they went in the module

310
00:17:35,797 --> 00:17:36,941
that they would get their food.

311
00:17:36,965 --> 00:17:38,734
So if they're hungry enough,
they're going to go in there.

312
00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:40,176
And during the winter that would be

313
00:17:40,343 --> 00:17:43,555
from 5:00 at night
till 7:00 in the morning.

314
00:17:43,722 --> 00:17:45,533
When you let them out,
you'd see these new tooth rakes

315
00:17:45,557 --> 00:17:47,308
and sometimes you'd see blood.

316
00:17:47,475 --> 00:17:49,853
Closing that door on him

317
00:17:50,019 --> 00:17:53,690
and knowing that he's locked in there
for the whole night is like...

318
00:17:56,151 --> 00:17:58,486
it's a stab, it's a "whoa."

319
00:17:58,653 --> 00:18:02,490
If that is true, it's not only inhumane,

320
00:18:02,657 --> 00:18:04,659
and I'll tell them so...

321
00:18:04,826 --> 00:18:09,038
but it probably led to what I think
is a psychosis that...

322
00:18:10,582 --> 00:18:12,333
he was on a hair trigger.

323
00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:14,252
He'd kill.

324
00:18:25,096 --> 00:18:27,140
<i>An employee is dead after an encounter...</i>

325
00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:30,143
<i>...at a Canadian park
called Sealand of the Pacific.</i>

326
00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:33,021
<i>The victim, Keltie Byrne,
was a championship swimmer</i>

327
00:18:33,188 --> 00:18:35,106
<i>and a part-time worker at Sealand.</i>

328
00:18:35,273 --> 00:18:38,693
<i>As seen in this home video,
rescuers used a huge net to try...</i>

329
00:18:38,860 --> 00:18:41,488
<i>...rescue workers' efforts
were hindered by the agitated whales.</i>

330
00:18:41,654 --> 00:18:43,782
<i>I'd like to make
the Pan Pacific team this summer,</i>

331
00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:48,244
<i>but my more immediate goal
is just to swim fast at nationals.</i>

332
00:18:55,001 --> 00:18:56,836
It was sort of a cloudy, gray day

333
00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:58,671
and we were looking for something to do,

334
00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:01,090
so we thought,
"Why not go to Sealand?"

335
00:19:01,257 --> 00:19:05,470
It was kind of like this dingy pool
with these whales and...

336
00:19:05,637 --> 00:19:07,847
It just felt a little bit
like an amusement park

337
00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:11,893
that was kind of on its last legs
and everything was a bit gray.

338
00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:13,812
Yeah. It was like
a swimming pool.

339
00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:14,979
- Yeah, yeah.
- You know,

340
00:19:15,146 --> 00:19:16,815
three whales in a swimming pool.

341
00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:17,982
Yeah.

342
00:19:18,149 --> 00:19:21,569
And they would come up
and touch the ball and there was...

343
00:19:21,736 --> 00:19:25,031
I think there was some tail splashing
and there was some...

344
00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:27,408
- Some jumping.
- The fish. And...

345
00:19:27,575 --> 00:19:30,954
They hold the fish and the whales jump up.

346
00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,374
I remember saying, "Oh, what a fun job."

347
00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:37,961
You know, she's so lucky."

348
00:19:38,127 --> 00:19:41,506
And then I saw her walking
with her rubber boots

349
00:19:41,673 --> 00:19:44,843
and she tripped and her foot
just dipped into the edge of the pool

350
00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:47,470
and she lost her balance and fell in.

351
00:19:47,637 --> 00:19:51,224
And then she was pushing her way up
to get out of the pool

352
00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:53,893
and the whale zoomed
over, grabbed her boot,

353
00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:55,520
and pulled her back in.

354
00:19:55,687 --> 00:19:57,772
At first, I didn't think
it was that serious

355
00:19:57,939 --> 00:20:01,609
because you see the trainer
in the pool with the whale

356
00:20:01,776 --> 00:20:05,154
and you think, "Oh, well,
the whales are used to that."

357
00:20:05,321 --> 00:20:07,866
And then all of a sudden,
it started getting...

358
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:11,369
There was more swimming,
more activity, more thrashing,

359
00:20:11,536 --> 00:20:13,288
and she was starting to get panicked.

360
00:20:13,454 --> 00:20:16,207
And then as it progressed,
you started to realize,

361
00:20:16,374 --> 00:20:18,668
"Whoa, something's not right here."

362
00:20:18,835 --> 00:20:21,713
She started to scream
and she started looking around

363
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,132
and her eyes were, like, bigger and bigger

364
00:20:24,299 --> 00:20:26,926
and realizing that,
"I really am in trouble here."

365
00:20:27,093 --> 00:20:30,138
And then they would pull her under.

366
00:20:30,305 --> 00:20:32,185
And then they would come up
and then when she...

367
00:20:32,348 --> 00:20:34,559
They came up, she'd be,
"Help me, help me."

368
00:20:34,726 --> 00:20:36,166
And then they'd take her down again.

369
00:20:36,227 --> 00:20:39,647
And she would be submerged
for several seconds

370
00:20:39,814 --> 00:20:42,066
up to, I don't know, maybe a minute.

371
00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:43,943
You're not keeping track.

372
00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:49,657
So it was harder and harder
for her to get the air in

373
00:20:49,824 --> 00:20:51,159
because she was screaming.

374
00:20:51,326 --> 00:20:55,079
And my sister remembers
her saying, "I don't want to die."

375
00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:03,630
Well, condolences to Keltie's family.

376
00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:05,673
Yeah.

377
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,550
That we couldn't help her

378
00:21:07,717 --> 00:21:09,677
was pretty wretched.

379
00:21:10,929 --> 00:21:13,097
Sealand closed.
Well, it's probably a good thing.

380
00:21:13,264 --> 00:21:16,559
I mean, it was a little pond.

381
00:21:16,726 --> 00:21:18,561
And I think the owner,

382
00:21:18,728 --> 00:21:22,649
you know, made the right decision
for whatever reasons.

383
00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:25,360
I don't believe he's a bad guy, a bad man.

384
00:21:25,526 --> 00:21:27,654
I think he was shocked by
the whole affair, too.

385
00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:30,615
The blush was gone from the business

386
00:21:30,782 --> 00:21:34,077
and he decided that that was it.

387
00:21:34,243 --> 00:21:35,411
We should shut down.

388
00:21:35,578 --> 00:21:38,414
No one ever contacted us.
There was an inquest.

389
00:21:38,581 --> 00:21:42,001
No one ever asked us to say what happened.

390
00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:44,212
- Yeah.
- You know, we just left.

391
00:21:44,379 --> 00:21:47,590
There was no big lawsuits afterwards
and there was no memorial.

392
00:21:47,757 --> 00:21:52,178
And the only thing remaining
of Keltie Byrne is...

393
00:21:52,345 --> 00:21:57,600
Is what's left in the folks' minds
who recall the case.

394
00:21:57,767 --> 00:21:59,769
So in the newspaper articles,

395
00:21:59,936 --> 00:22:02,814
the cause of death
was that she drowned accidentally,

396
00:22:02,981 --> 00:22:06,192
but she was pulled under by the whale.

397
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,444
Well, there's a bit of smoke
and mirrors going on.

398
00:22:08,611 --> 00:22:11,489
I mean, one of the fundamental facts is
is that none of the witnesses

399
00:22:11,656 --> 00:22:15,451
were clear about which
whale pulled Keltie in.

400
00:22:15,618 --> 00:22:18,162
Yes. Yeah, it was the large whale.

401
00:22:18,329 --> 00:22:21,374
Tilikum, the male, is the one
that went after her.

402
00:22:21,541 --> 00:22:24,293
And the other two just
kind of circled around.

403
00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:26,754
But he was definitely the instigator.

404
00:22:26,921 --> 00:22:31,175
And we knew it was that whale
because he had the flopped-over fin.

405
00:22:31,342 --> 00:22:33,845
Like, it was very easy to tell.

406
00:22:38,141 --> 00:22:42,061
Sealand of the Pacific closed
its doors and was looking, I guess,

407
00:22:42,228 --> 00:22:43,521
to make a buck on the way out

408
00:22:43,688 --> 00:22:45,773
and these whales are worth
millions of dollars.

409
00:22:45,940 --> 00:22:48,484
When SeaWorld heard that
Tilikum was available

410
00:22:48,651 --> 00:22:51,988
after this accident at
Sealand of the Pacific,

411
00:22:52,155 --> 00:22:54,699
they really wanted Tilikum
because they needed a breeder.

412
00:22:54,866 --> 00:22:57,243
So I don't even think that anybody
even was questioning,

413
00:22:57,410 --> 00:22:59,245
like, is this a good idea?

414
00:22:59,412 --> 00:23:03,082
My understanding of the situation
was that Tilikum and the others

415
00:23:03,249 --> 00:23:04,667
would not be used in shows.

416
00:23:04,834 --> 00:23:06,419
They would not be performance animals.

417
00:23:06,586 --> 00:23:07,986
Our understanding of their behavior

418
00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:10,715
was that it was such
a highly stimulating event for them

419
00:23:10,882 --> 00:23:12,300
that they were likely to repeat it.

420
00:23:12,467 --> 00:23:15,178
Sealand was... we were all young
and bit of sea cowboys

421
00:23:15,344 --> 00:23:18,306
and we weren't so technical
and scientific as SeaWorld,

422
00:23:18,473 --> 00:23:20,767
so we all had this vision
that they knew more than us

423
00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:22,619
and they were better than us
and Tilikum would have

424
00:23:22,643 --> 00:23:24,283
a bigger pool and he'd have a better life

425
00:23:24,353 --> 00:23:26,513
and he would have better care
and he'd have better food

426
00:23:26,606 --> 00:23:28,649
and it'd be a great life for him.

427
00:23:28,816 --> 00:23:31,277
So it was like, "Okay, Tilly."

428
00:23:31,444 --> 00:23:34,697
You're going to Disneyland.
Lucky you."

429
00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:42,330
<i>The orcas' intelligence</i>

430
00:23:42,497 --> 00:23:44,832
<i>may be even superior to man's.</i>

431
00:23:44,999 --> 00:23:48,211
<i>As parents, they are exemplary,
better than many human beings.</i>

432
00:23:48,377 --> 00:23:52,590
<i>And like human beings, they have
a profound instinct for vengeance.</i>

433
00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:57,178
<i>Dino De Laurentiis presents...</i>

434
00:23:57,345 --> 00:23:59,597
<i>..."Orca."</i>

435
00:23:59,764 --> 00:24:04,435
If you go back only 35
years, we knew nothing.

436
00:24:04,602 --> 00:24:05,853
In fact, less than nothing.

437
00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:08,981
What the public had was
superstition and fear.

438
00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:11,275
<i>A fight to the death...</i>

439
00:24:12,902 --> 00:24:15,613
<i>between the two most
dangerous animals on Earth.</i>

440
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:17,323
<i>What in hell are you?!</i>

441
00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:19,367
These were the vicious killer whales

442
00:24:19,534 --> 00:24:21,786
that, you know, had 48 sharp teeth

443
00:24:21,953 --> 00:24:24,539
that would rip you to shreds
if they got a chance.

444
00:24:28,876 --> 00:24:32,713
What we learned is that
they're amazingly friendly

445
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,551
and understanding and intuitively
want to be your companion.

446
00:24:36,717 --> 00:24:38,845
<i>Are you recording this?</i>

447
00:24:41,764 --> 00:24:43,975
And to this day there is no record

448
00:24:44,142 --> 00:24:47,228
of an orca doing any harm
to any human in the wild.

449
00:25:00,783 --> 00:25:03,661
They live in these big families.

450
00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:08,416
And they have life spans
very similar to human life spans.

451
00:25:08,583 --> 00:25:12,253
The females can live to
about 100, maybe more,

452
00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:14,922
males to about 50 or 60.

453
00:25:15,089 --> 00:25:19,177
But the adult offspring never leave
their mother's side.

454
00:25:21,846 --> 00:25:26,392
Each community has a completely
different set of behaviors.

455
00:25:28,186 --> 00:25:32,231
Each has a complete
repertoire of vocalizations

456
00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:35,318
with no overlap.

457
00:25:35,484 --> 00:25:36,861
You could call them languages.

458
00:25:37,028 --> 00:25:39,363
The scientific community
is reluctant to say

459
00:25:39,530 --> 00:25:42,074
any other animal but humans uses languages,

460
00:25:42,241 --> 00:25:45,745
but there's every indication
that they use languages.

461
00:25:45,912 --> 00:25:49,207
The orca brain just screams out

462
00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:51,709
intelligence, awareness.

463
00:25:51,876 --> 00:25:53,544
We took this tremendous brain

464
00:25:53,711 --> 00:25:57,215
and we put it in a magnetic
resonance imaging scanner.

465
00:25:57,381 --> 00:26:01,302
What we found was just astounding.

466
00:26:01,469 --> 00:26:04,388
They've got a part of the brain
that humans don't have.

467
00:26:04,555 --> 00:26:07,975
A part of their brain has extended out

468
00:26:08,142 --> 00:26:10,937
right adjacent to their limbic system.

469
00:26:11,103 --> 00:26:13,856
The system processes emotions.

470
00:26:14,023 --> 00:26:17,109
The safest inference would
be these are animals

471
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:21,447
that have highly elaborated
emotional lives.

472
00:26:21,614 --> 00:26:24,408
It's becoming clear that
dolphins and whales

473
00:26:24,575 --> 00:26:27,912
have a sense of self, a
sense of social bonding

474
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,414
that they've taken to another level...

475
00:26:30,581 --> 00:26:33,084
Much stronger, much more complex

476
00:26:33,251 --> 00:26:37,004
than in other mammals, including humans.

477
00:26:37,171 --> 00:26:39,382
We look at mass strandings,

478
00:26:39,548 --> 00:26:42,593
the fact that they stand by each other.

479
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,888
Everything about them
is social... everything.

480
00:26:46,889 --> 00:26:50,434
It's been suggested
that their whole sense of self

481
00:26:50,601 --> 00:26:53,980
is distributed among
the individuals in their group.

482
00:26:54,146 --> 00:26:55,940
<i>There are five of them.</i>

483
00:26:56,107 --> 00:27:00,027
<i>These orca are going
to attack this seal on...</i>

484
00:27:00,194 --> 00:27:04,907
<i>They've been breaking the ice off
and swimming around him.</i>

485
00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:06,969
<i>Oh, here they come, two of them.
Lookit, underneath there.</i>

486
00:27:06,993 --> 00:27:08,494
<i>You can see them underneath.</i>

487
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:11,038
<i>They made a big wave.
Look at that, a big wave.</i>

488
00:27:11,205 --> 00:27:12,290
<i>- Oh, yeah.
- Whoa.</i>

489
00:27:12,456 --> 00:27:14,917
<i>- Oh, God.
- Oh, God. No, no, no.</i>

490
00:27:15,084 --> 00:27:17,420
<i>Oh! Oh, I can't stand it.</i>

491
00:27:17,586 --> 00:27:20,006
<i>If you can't watch
the bullfight, you'd better leave.</i>

492
00:27:20,172 --> 00:27:22,925
<i>Oh, yeah, here they go.
Look at this... three of them.</i>

493
00:27:23,926 --> 00:27:25,006
<i>Look at this. Look at this.</i>

494
00:27:25,094 --> 00:27:26,804
<i>Oh, God. Oh, no!</i>

495
00:27:26,971 --> 00:27:28,472
<i>- Oh, God!
- It's all over.</i>

496
00:27:28,639 --> 00:27:30,641
<i>Nope, not quite.</i>

497
00:27:30,808 --> 00:27:33,769
<i>Yeah, it's all over.</i>

498
00:27:33,936 --> 00:27:35,688
<i>It's all over.</i>

499
00:27:49,910 --> 00:27:53,414
The First Nations people
and the old fishermen on the coast,

500
00:27:53,581 --> 00:27:56,167
they call them "blackfish."

501
00:27:56,334 --> 00:28:00,504
They're an animal that possesses
great spiritual power

502
00:28:00,671 --> 00:28:03,090
and they're not to be meddled with.

503
00:28:07,595 --> 00:28:09,764
I've spent a lot of time
around killer whales

504
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:11,474
and they're always in charge.

505
00:28:12,808 --> 00:28:15,519
I never get out of the boat,
I never mess with them.

506
00:28:17,438 --> 00:28:19,940
The speed and the power is quite amazing.

507
00:28:27,490 --> 00:28:29,367
Rules are the same
as the pool hall...

508
00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:32,495
Keep one foot on the floor at all times.

509
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:38,918
Even after seeing them
thousands of times...

510
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:45,716
you see them and you still...

511
00:28:45,883 --> 00:28:47,635
You know, wake up.

512
00:29:00,731 --> 00:29:03,192
He arrived, I think, in 1992.

513
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,694
I was at Whale and Dolphin Stadium
when he arrived.

514
00:29:05,861 --> 00:29:10,116
And he's twice as large
as the next animal in the facility.

515
00:29:10,282 --> 00:29:11,283
<i>Yay!</i>

516
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:12,969
<i>The guy is right at about 12,000 pounds.</i>

517
00:29:12,993 --> 00:29:16,288
<i>That's incredible.
He looks fantastic.</i>

518
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,582
When Tilikum arrived at SeaWorld,

519
00:29:18,749 --> 00:29:23,712
he was attacked viciously,
repeatedly by Katina and others.

520
00:29:23,879 --> 00:29:27,299
In the wild, it's a very
matriarchal society.

521
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:30,344
Male whales are kept at the perimeter.

522
00:29:30,511 --> 00:29:32,054
In captivity,

523
00:29:32,221 --> 00:29:36,392
the animals are squeezed
into very close proximity.

524
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,686
Tilikum... the poor guy
is so large,

525
00:29:38,853 --> 00:29:42,481
he couldn't get away
because he just is not as mobile

526
00:29:42,648 --> 00:29:45,484
relative to the smaller
and more agile females.

527
00:29:45,651 --> 00:29:48,195
And where was he going to run?
There's no place to run.

528
00:29:48,362 --> 00:29:50,865
I think he spent a lot
of time in isolation.

529
00:29:51,031 --> 00:29:53,591
SeaWorld claims that, "Oh, no,
he's always in with the other..."

530
00:29:53,659 --> 00:29:55,661
"With the females," but from what I saw,

531
00:29:55,828 --> 00:29:58,456
he was mostly put with the females
for breeding purposes

532
00:29:58,622 --> 00:30:02,710
and he didn't spend a lot of time,
you know, with the other whales.

533
00:30:02,877 --> 00:30:06,338
It's for his own protection
that he gets beat up.

534
00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:08,674
And so by segregating him,

535
00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:13,804
it provides a physical barrier
so the females can't kick his butt.

536
00:30:13,971 --> 00:30:16,599
Tilikum is pretty much kept in the back,

537
00:30:16,765 --> 00:30:21,103
and then brought out at the very end
as, like, the big splash.

538
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:28,235
He was always happy to
see you in the morning.

539
00:30:28,402 --> 00:30:29,820
<i>- Hi!
- There we go.</i>

540
00:30:29,987 --> 00:30:32,072
<i>- You're the boy.
- Look at his chompers.</i>

541
00:30:32,239 --> 00:30:34,533
Maybe because he was alone,
maybe because he was hungry,

542
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,052
maybe because he just liked you...

543
00:30:36,076 --> 00:30:38,078
Who knows what was going on in his head.

544
00:30:38,245 --> 00:30:40,414
<i>You want to whistle?</i>

545
00:30:40,581 --> 00:30:43,542
<i>...All right, so he can talk to us.</i>

546
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,169
<i>- Yes.
- You don't say.</i>

547
00:30:45,336 --> 00:30:46,670
<i>He's precious. Yes?</i>

548
00:30:46,837 --> 00:30:48,077
<i>That was really loud. Terrific.</i>

549
00:30:50,466 --> 00:30:52,301
<i>- Come on, big boy.
- Show the pecs.</i>

550
00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:54,803
He seemed to like to work.
He seemed to be interested.

551
00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:57,348
He seemed to want to learn new things.

552
00:30:57,515 --> 00:31:00,559
He seemed to be enjoying
working with the trainers.

553
00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:05,397
He, for me, was a joy.

554
00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:07,274
He really responded to me and I...

555
00:31:07,441 --> 00:31:10,236
You know, every day I went to work,
I was happy to see Tilly.

556
00:31:12,863 --> 00:31:15,950
<i>- Boop!
- That's cute.</i>

557
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,289
<i>You're being too cute.</i>

558
00:31:22,456 --> 00:31:25,125
I never got the impression
of him while I was there

559
00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:28,379
that, oh, my God, he's the scary whale.

560
00:31:28,546 --> 00:31:29,547
Not at all.

561
00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:34,301
Maybe some of it's just
our naiveté or whatever,

562
00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:37,012
you know, because we weren't given

563
00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,598
the full details of Keltie's situation.

564
00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:41,183
Turn around. Smile, buddy.

565
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:43,102
- Cheese.
- Yay!

566
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:45,729
I was under the impression
that Tilikum had nothing to do

567
00:31:45,896 --> 00:31:48,190
with her death specifically,
that it was the female whales

568
00:31:48,357 --> 00:31:49,668
who were responsible for her death.

569
00:31:49,692 --> 00:31:52,528
What I found really odd at first
was the way they were acting

570
00:31:52,695 --> 00:31:54,530
around this whale and what they had told us

571
00:31:54,697 --> 00:31:56,907
seemed to me to be two different things.

572
00:31:57,074 --> 00:31:58,826
The first day he arrived, I remember

573
00:31:58,993 --> 00:32:01,662
one of the senior trainers
at SeaWorld, she...

574
00:32:01,829 --> 00:32:04,915
Tilikum was in a pool
and she was walking over a gate,

575
00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:07,710
and she had her wetsuit unzipped
and it was tied around her waist.

576
00:32:07,876 --> 00:32:09,920
And she was making cooing noises and going,

577
00:32:10,087 --> 00:32:11,714
"Hey, Tilikum,
what a cute little whale."

578
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,633
And she was, like,
just kind of play-talking at him,

579
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,429
and one of the supervisors said,
"Get her out of there!"

580
00:32:18,596 --> 00:32:20,931
And just screamed at her,
like, "Get her away from there,"

581
00:32:21,098 --> 00:32:23,201
like they were so worried
that something was going to happen.

582
00:32:23,225 --> 00:32:26,270
And I remember thinking,
"Why are you guys making

583
00:32:26,437 --> 00:32:29,189
such a big deal out of this
when he didn't actually kill her?"

584
00:32:29,356 --> 00:32:32,484
Well, clearly management thought
there was some reason

585
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,445
to exercise caution around him.

586
00:32:34,612 --> 00:32:37,239
You know, clearly they knew more
than they were telling us.

587
00:32:38,574 --> 00:32:41,219
<i>Ladies and gentlemen, the next two
behaviors you're going to be seeing,</i>

588
00:32:41,243 --> 00:32:43,495
<i>you can only see right here at SeaWorld.</i>

589
00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:48,125
Jeff was out in the audience
filming one of the Shamu shows.

590
00:32:48,292 --> 00:32:49,543
It was a perfect show.

591
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:50,961
All of the hot dog sequences,

592
00:32:51,128 --> 00:32:53,255
the water works sequences went off great.

593
00:32:56,050 --> 00:32:58,302
I was really excited just
to be capturing this

594
00:32:58,469 --> 00:33:01,138
because it was kind of turning out
to be a great show.

595
00:33:04,433 --> 00:33:06,810
A show that's kind of complete...

596
00:33:06,977 --> 00:33:10,731
It doesn't... it probably only happens
a few times a week.

597
00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:15,110
At the very end of the show,
Liz was working Tilikum

598
00:33:15,277 --> 00:33:17,397
and apparently Tilikum
lunged out of the water at her.

599
00:33:17,529 --> 00:33:20,783
And I had captured Tilikum
coming out of the water

600
00:33:20,949 --> 00:33:22,868
kind of turning sideways and appeared to me

601
00:33:23,035 --> 00:33:24,453
to try to grab Liz.

602
00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:26,622
And at that moment,

603
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:28,916
the tape became unusable.

604
00:33:29,083 --> 00:33:32,336
I was just kind of basically instructed
to get rid of the tape.

605
00:33:32,503 --> 00:33:35,756
Wanting to kind of preserve the tape,
I actually used the editing equipment

606
00:33:35,923 --> 00:33:39,009
and snipped out
that little half-second or second

607
00:33:39,176 --> 00:33:41,178
when he did that and
stitched it back together

608
00:33:41,345 --> 00:33:43,681
so it just kind of looked like
a glitch in the tape.

609
00:33:43,847 --> 00:33:45,847
And I'm like, "Look at this."
And it was like, "No.

610
00:33:45,974 --> 00:33:47,393
This is no longer usable."

611
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,853
You know, and so we had
to destroy the tape.

612
00:34:28,142 --> 00:34:30,436
It's pretty outrageous
that SeaWorld would claim

613
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:33,105
there was no expecting Tilikum
to come out of the water

614
00:34:33,272 --> 00:34:35,208
because they had witnessed him
coming out of the water,

615
00:34:35,232 --> 00:34:37,276
and it's written into his profile.

616
00:34:39,486 --> 00:34:41,488
He lunges at trainers.

617
00:34:45,325 --> 00:34:48,370
<i>When we visit SeaWorld,
we tend to take advantage of the fact</i>

618
00:34:48,537 --> 00:34:52,082
<i>that Shamu has been provided
with a safe and comfortable habitat.</i>

619
00:34:52,249 --> 00:34:54,168
<i>And everything trained is an extension</i>

620
00:34:54,334 --> 00:34:57,087
<i>of the killer whale's natural behavior.</i>

621
00:34:57,254 --> 00:35:00,424
I spewed out the party line during shows.

622
00:35:00,591 --> 00:35:02,342
I'm totally mortified now.

623
00:35:02,509 --> 00:35:06,388
There was like... something like,
"Look at Namu.

624
00:35:06,555 --> 00:35:09,308
Namu's not doing that
because she has to."

625
00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,936
<i>Namu is doing this because
she really wants to.</i>

626
00:35:13,103 --> 00:35:14,730
Oh, my gosh.

627
00:35:14,897 --> 00:35:16,982
Like, some of the things
I'm embarrassed by,

628
00:35:17,149 --> 00:35:18,358
so embarrassed by.

629
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,905
At the time, I think
I could have convinced myself

630
00:35:23,071 --> 00:35:26,408
that the relationships that we had
were built on something

631
00:35:26,575 --> 00:35:29,369
stronger than the fact
that I'm giving them fish.

632
00:35:29,536 --> 00:35:31,038
You know, I like to think that...

633
00:35:33,123 --> 00:35:35,584
but I don't know that that's the truth.

634
00:35:38,712 --> 00:35:42,216
I had been there a while and I had seen
a few other things along the way

635
00:35:42,382 --> 00:35:45,719
that made me question why I was there

636
00:35:45,886 --> 00:35:47,566
and what we were doing with these animals.

637
00:35:51,225 --> 00:35:53,685
<i>On November 4, 1988,</i>

638
00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:56,271
<i>a killer whale at SeaWorld</i>

639
00:35:56,438 --> 00:35:59,900
<i>gave the performance of a lifetime.</i>

640
00:36:06,824 --> 00:36:09,451
<i>Don't miss this small miracle.</i>

641
00:36:09,618 --> 00:36:13,372
<i>Come see our new Baby Shamu.</i>

642
00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:15,582
I know it was naive of me,

643
00:36:15,749 --> 00:36:17,543
but I thought that...

644
00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,214
it was our responsibility
to do as much as we could

645
00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:24,007
to keep their family units together

646
00:36:24,174 --> 00:36:26,927
since we knew that in the wild
that's what happens.

647
00:36:27,094 --> 00:36:29,346
<i>♪ Yes, sir, that's our baby... ♪</i>

648
00:36:29,513 --> 00:36:31,849
Kalina was the first Baby Shamu.

649
00:36:32,015 --> 00:36:34,601
<i>Baby Shamu...
SeaWorld's newest star...</i>

650
00:36:34,768 --> 00:36:39,189
She had become quite disruptive
and challenging her mom a little bit

651
00:36:39,356 --> 00:36:41,859
and disrupting some shows
and that kind of thing.

652
00:36:42,025 --> 00:36:43,902
<i>♪ She's got the whole place jumpin' ♪</i>

653
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:47,281
<i>♪ Shamu,
she's that baby whale. ♪</i>

654
00:36:48,282 --> 00:36:50,260
It was decided by the higher-ups
that she would be moved

655
00:36:50,284 --> 00:36:53,161
to another park when she was
just four, four and a half years old.

656
00:36:53,328 --> 00:36:57,416
And that was news to us as trainers
that were working with her.

657
00:36:57,583 --> 00:37:00,168
To me, it had never crossed my mind

658
00:37:00,335 --> 00:37:04,089
that they might be moving
the baby from her mom.

659
00:37:07,175 --> 00:37:10,846
The supervisors basically
was kind of mocking me,

660
00:37:11,013 --> 00:37:13,432
like, "Oh, you're saying, 'Poor Kalina,"'

661
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,935
you know, "'what's she going to do
without her mommy?"'

662
00:37:17,102 --> 00:37:19,855
And, you know... and that
of course just shut me up.

663
00:37:21,523 --> 00:37:24,067
So, the night of the move,
we had to deploy the nets

664
00:37:24,234 --> 00:37:28,196
to separate them and get Kalina,
the baby, into the med pool.

665
00:37:28,363 --> 00:37:31,491
And Katina was generally a quiet whale.

666
00:37:31,658 --> 00:37:33,952
She was not an overly vocal whale.

667
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,247
After, Kalina was removed from the scene

668
00:37:37,414 --> 00:37:40,292
and put on the truck and
taken to the airport,

669
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:42,961
and Katina, her mom, was left in the pool.

670
00:37:43,128 --> 00:37:46,715
She stayed in the corner of the pool,

671
00:37:46,882 --> 00:37:50,719
like, literally just shaking and screaming,

672
00:37:50,886 --> 00:37:51,970
screeching, crying.

673
00:37:52,137 --> 00:37:54,264
Like, I had never seen her

674
00:37:54,431 --> 00:37:55,891
do anything like that.

675
00:37:56,058 --> 00:37:57,976
And the other females in the pool,

676
00:37:58,143 --> 00:37:59,583
maybe once or twice during the night

677
00:37:59,686 --> 00:38:01,355
they'd come out and check on her.

678
00:38:01,521 --> 00:38:04,983
And she'd screech and cry
and they would just run back.

679
00:38:07,152 --> 00:38:09,363
There was nothing that you could call that,

680
00:38:09,529 --> 00:38:12,532
watching it, besides grief.

681
00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,119
Those are not your whales.

682
00:38:16,286 --> 00:38:19,206
You know, you love them and you'll think,

683
00:38:19,373 --> 00:38:22,751
"I'm the one that touches them,
feeds them, keeps them alive,

684
00:38:22,918 --> 00:38:25,212
gives them the care
that they need."

685
00:38:25,379 --> 00:38:27,714
They're not your whales.

686
00:38:27,881 --> 00:38:29,007
They own them.

687
00:38:30,384 --> 00:38:32,761
Kasatka and Takara were very close.

688
00:38:32,928 --> 00:38:36,723
Kasatka was the mother, Takara's the calf.

689
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:38,725
Takara was special to me.

690
00:38:39,851 --> 00:38:42,396
They were inseparable.

691
00:38:42,562 --> 00:38:45,148
When they separated Kasatka and Takara,

692
00:38:45,315 --> 00:38:47,192
it was to take Takara to Florida.

693
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:51,738
Once Takara had already been
stretchered out of the pool,

694
00:38:51,905 --> 00:38:55,158
put on the truck, driven to the airport...

695
00:38:56,868 --> 00:39:00,330
Kasatka continued to make vocals

696
00:39:00,497 --> 00:39:02,457
that had never been heard before.

697
00:39:02,624 --> 00:39:04,292
They brought in

698
00:39:04,459 --> 00:39:07,671
the senior research scientists
to analyze the vocals.

699
00:39:07,838 --> 00:39:10,757
They were long-range vocals.

700
00:39:10,924 --> 00:39:13,385
She was trying something

701
00:39:13,552 --> 00:39:17,639
that no one had even heard before
looking for Takara.

702
00:39:17,806 --> 00:39:19,349
That's heartbreaking.

703
00:39:20,976 --> 00:39:23,270
How can anyone

704
00:39:23,437 --> 00:39:28,150
look at that and think
that that is morally acceptable?

705
00:39:28,316 --> 00:39:30,193
It's not.

706
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,362
It is not okay.

707
00:39:34,322 --> 00:39:35,866
<i>Stand by, Dean.</i>

708
00:39:36,033 --> 00:39:37,617
<i>Let's go live to SeaWorld</i>

709
00:39:37,784 --> 00:39:40,454
<i>where Dean Gomersall
is joining us for a sneak peek.</i>

710
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:42,622
<i>Hi, Dean.
Tell us about the new show.</i>

711
00:39:42,789 --> 00:39:43,999
<i>Good afternoon, Richard.</i>

712
00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,019
<i>The new show is the Whale
and Dolphin Discovery.</i>

713
00:39:46,043 --> 00:39:48,170
<i>What it does is it shows
the relationship we have</i>

714
00:39:48,336 --> 00:39:50,297
<i>between all our animals
here at the Whale...</i>

715
00:39:50,464 --> 00:39:52,674
There's so many things that were told to us

716
00:39:52,841 --> 00:39:54,968
that they tell us... they tell you
so many times

717
00:39:55,135 --> 00:39:56,695
that you just...
You start believing it.

718
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,480
<i>So all the animals here
get along very well.</i>

719
00:39:58,597 --> 00:40:00,390
<i>It's just like training your dog, really.</i>

720
00:40:00,557 --> 00:40:02,976
I was blind, you know.
I was a kid.

721
00:40:03,143 --> 00:40:05,645
I didn't know what I was doing, really.

722
00:40:05,812 --> 00:40:07,105
<i>- Nice.
- Good job.</i>

723
00:40:07,272 --> 00:40:08,982
<i>You did a real good job.</i>

724
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,867
<i>Ladies and gentlemen,
this is David from Maryland.</i>

725
00:40:19,034 --> 00:40:21,578
<i>Go ahead and wave at everyone, David.</i>

726
00:40:21,745 --> 00:40:24,581
I just really bought
into what they told us.

727
00:40:24,748 --> 00:40:27,709
You know, I learned to say
what they told us to the audience.

728
00:40:27,876 --> 00:40:28,877
<i>Hello out there.</i>

729
00:40:29,044 --> 00:40:31,046
<i>Children are some of Shamu's biggest fans.</i>

730
00:40:31,213 --> 00:40:33,048
<i>We can do just about anything we want.</i>

731
00:40:33,215 --> 00:40:35,818
I thought I knew everything about
killer whales when I worked there,

732
00:40:35,842 --> 00:40:37,445
you know, and everything
about these animals.

733
00:40:37,469 --> 00:40:39,149
I really know nothing about killer whales.

734
00:40:39,262 --> 00:40:41,389
I know a lot about being an animal trainer

735
00:40:41,556 --> 00:40:43,409
or a killer whale trainer,
but I don't know anything

736
00:40:43,433 --> 00:40:46,144
about these animals' natural history
or their behavior.

737
00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:49,272
I really in some ways believed a lot
of what I was learning from them,

738
00:40:49,439 --> 00:40:50,816
because why would they lie?

739
00:40:50,982 --> 00:40:56,613
Because the whales in
their pools die young,

740
00:40:56,780 --> 00:41:01,660
they like to say that all orcas
die at 25 or 30 years.

741
00:41:01,827 --> 00:41:04,412
<i>- 25 to 35 years.
- 25 to 35 years.</i>

742
00:41:04,579 --> 00:41:07,958
<i>They're documented in the wild
living to be about...</i>

743
00:41:08,125 --> 00:41:09,876
<i>35, mid-30s.</i>

744
00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:12,003
<i>They tend to live a lot longer
in this environment</i>

745
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:13,773
<i>because they have all the veterinary care.</i>

746
00:41:13,797 --> 00:41:15,423
And of course that's false.

747
00:41:15,590 --> 00:41:19,928
We knew by 1980, after half a dozen
years of the research,

748
00:41:20,095 --> 00:41:23,682
that they live equivalent
to human life spans.

749
00:41:23,849 --> 00:41:28,061
And every other potentially
embarrassing fact is twisted

750
00:41:28,228 --> 00:41:30,605
and turned and denied one way or another.

751
00:41:30,772 --> 00:41:32,107
<i>So, in the wild, they live...</i>

752
00:41:32,274 --> 00:41:33,441
<i>- Less.
- Less.</i>

753
00:41:33,608 --> 00:41:35,360
Like the floppy dorsal fins.

754
00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:39,322
<i>25% of whales have a fin
that turns over like that</i>

755
00:41:39,489 --> 00:41:40,657
<i>as they get older.</i>

756
00:41:40,824 --> 00:41:44,828
Dorsal collapse happens
in less than 1% of wild killer whales.

757
00:41:44,995 --> 00:41:45,996
We know this.

758
00:41:46,163 --> 00:41:51,126
All the captive males
100% have collapsed dorsal fins.

759
00:41:51,293 --> 00:41:54,754
And they say that they're a family,
that the whales are in their family.

760
00:41:54,921 --> 00:41:56,339
They have their pods.

761
00:41:56,506 --> 00:42:00,969
But that's just an artificial
assemblage of their collection,

762
00:42:01,136 --> 00:42:04,347
however management decides
they should mix them

763
00:42:04,514 --> 00:42:06,683
and whichever ones happen to be born

764
00:42:06,850 --> 00:42:08,852
or bought and brought in.

765
00:42:09,019 --> 00:42:11,605
That's not a family, you know.
Come on.

766
00:42:12,939 --> 00:42:15,150
You've got animals
from different cultural subsets

767
00:42:15,317 --> 00:42:17,194
that have been brought
in from various parks.

768
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,480
These are different nations.

769
00:42:18,528 --> 00:42:20,488
These aren't just two
different killer whales.

770
00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:23,241
These animals, they've got different genes,

771
00:42:23,408 --> 00:42:26,494
they use different languages.

772
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,624
Well, what could happen
as a result of them being

773
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:33,501
thrown in with other whales
that they haven't grown up with,

774
00:42:33,668 --> 00:42:35,962
that are not part of their culture

775
00:42:36,129 --> 00:42:38,131
is there's hyperaggression...

776
00:42:40,634 --> 00:42:43,762
...a lot of violence,
a lot of killing in captivity

777
00:42:43,929 --> 00:42:47,098
that you don't ever see in the wild.

778
00:42:47,265 --> 00:42:49,351
<i>For the health and safety of the animals,</i>

779
00:42:49,517 --> 00:42:51,728
<i>please do not put your hands in the water.</i>

780
00:42:51,895 --> 00:42:53,605
It was always sort of this backdrop,

781
00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:57,651
this underpinning of
tension between animals.

782
00:42:57,817 --> 00:43:03,240
Whale-on-whale aggression was
just part of your... the daily existence.

783
00:43:03,406 --> 00:43:07,285
<i>We ask that you use
the stairs and aisleways as you exit.</i>

784
00:43:07,452 --> 00:43:09,579
<i>Please do not step on the seats.</i>

785
00:43:09,746 --> 00:43:11,581
<i>These areas may become wet</i>

786
00:43:11,748 --> 00:43:14,042
<i>and therefore slippery to some footwear.</i>

787
00:43:14,209 --> 00:43:15,210
<i>Thank you.</i>

788
00:43:15,377 --> 00:43:17,837
<i>♪ Blue wonder... ♪</i>

789
00:43:18,004 --> 00:43:19,714
In the wild, when there's tension,

790
00:43:19,881 --> 00:43:21,716
they've got thousands of square miles

791
00:43:21,883 --> 00:43:25,595
to exit the scene and they can get away.

792
00:43:25,762 --> 00:43:28,265
You don't have that in captivity.

793
00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:31,851
Could you imagine being in a small
concrete enclosure for your life

794
00:43:32,018 --> 00:43:34,604
when you're used to
swimming 100 miles a day?

795
00:43:34,771 --> 00:43:38,441
<i>♪ Free-feeling... ♪</i>

796
00:43:38,608 --> 00:43:41,319
Sometimes this aggression
became very severe

797
00:43:41,486 --> 00:43:46,283
and, in fact, whales have died
in captivity because of this aggression.

798
00:43:46,449 --> 00:43:47,701
I think it was 1988.

799
00:43:47,867 --> 00:43:50,620
Kandu, trying to assert
her dominance over Corky,

800
00:43:50,787 --> 00:43:52,580
rammed Corky.

801
00:43:52,747 --> 00:43:57,294
It fractured her jaw,
which cut an artery in her head

802
00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:59,421
and then she bled out.

803
00:44:01,089 --> 00:44:04,259
Now that's got to be a hard way to go down.

804
00:44:06,303 --> 00:44:09,639
I saw that there was just
a lot of things that weren't right.

805
00:44:09,806 --> 00:44:11,606
And there was a lot of it...
Misinformation...

806
00:44:11,641 --> 00:44:13,977
And something was amiss.

807
00:44:14,144 --> 00:44:17,063
And, you know, I sort of
compartmentalized that part of it

808
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:19,941
and did the best that I could
with the knowledge that I had

809
00:44:20,108 --> 00:44:21,985
to take care of the
animals that were there.

810
00:44:22,152 --> 00:44:24,922
You know, I think all the trainers there
have the same thing in their heart.

811
00:44:24,946 --> 00:44:27,824
They're trying to make a difference
in the lives of the animals.

812
00:44:28,867 --> 00:44:32,787
You think that, "if I leave,
who's going to take care of Tilikum?"

813
00:44:32,954 --> 00:44:36,082
That's why I stayed.
Because I felt sorry for Tilikum.

814
00:44:36,249 --> 00:44:38,227
I mean, if you want to get down
to the nuts and bolts of it,

815
00:44:38,251 --> 00:44:40,545
I stayed because I felt sorry for Tilikum.

816
00:44:40,712 --> 00:44:44,591
And I couldn't bring myself to stop coming

817
00:44:44,758 --> 00:44:46,551
and trying to take care of him.

818
00:44:59,147 --> 00:45:01,024
<i>Gosh, do I love coming out here every day</i>

819
00:45:01,191 --> 00:45:04,778
<i>and having the audience just love
what we're doing with the animals.</i>

820
00:45:04,944 --> 00:45:07,280
<i>How do I make this animal
as beautiful as they are</i>

821
00:45:07,447 --> 00:45:09,908
<i>and have people walk
away loving this animal?</i>

822
00:45:10,075 --> 00:45:11,555
<i>And they're touched and they're moved</i>

823
00:45:11,659 --> 00:45:14,371
<i>and I feel like I made
a difference to them.</i>

824
00:45:14,537 --> 00:45:16,998
I left in January of 2010,

825
00:45:17,165 --> 00:45:19,709
a month before Dawn passed away.

826
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:23,296
She was like a safety guru.

827
00:45:23,463 --> 00:45:26,007
I mean, she was always
double-checking,

828
00:45:26,174 --> 00:45:27,985
making sure that everyone
was doing the right thing.

829
00:45:28,009 --> 00:45:30,512
So I remember she would record
every show that she did

830
00:45:30,678 --> 00:45:33,223
and she would watch it
and critique herself.

831
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,643
She was constantly trying to be better.

832
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:38,812
When I found out it was Dawn,

833
00:45:38,978 --> 00:45:41,231
I was shocked.

834
00:45:42,273 --> 00:45:44,692
That could have been me.
I could have been the spotter.

835
00:45:44,859 --> 00:45:46,986
What if I was there and
I could have saved her?

836
00:45:47,153 --> 00:45:49,739
You know, all these things
go through your mind.

837
00:46:01,751 --> 00:46:03,837
John Sillick is the guy who, in 1987,

838
00:46:04,003 --> 00:46:07,298
was crushed between two whales
at SeaWorld of San Diego.

839
00:46:07,465 --> 00:46:10,677
Now, even though I'd been working
at SeaWorld for six months,

840
00:46:10,844 --> 00:46:12,595
I had no idea that that had even happened.

841
00:46:12,762 --> 00:46:14,013
I never even heard that story.

842
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:17,434
And the SeaWorld party line was that,
well, that was... it was a trainer error.

843
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,477
It was John's fault.
You know, John's fault.

844
00:46:19,644 --> 00:46:21,187
He was supposed to get off that whale.

845
00:46:21,354 --> 00:46:24,107
And for years, I believed that
and I told people that.

846
00:46:32,157 --> 00:46:35,743
I actually started at SeaWorld, like,
five days after that event occurred

847
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:38,788
and we didn't...
We weren't told much about it

848
00:46:38,955 --> 00:46:42,083
other than it was trainer error.

849
00:46:42,250 --> 00:46:45,336
And, you know, especially
when you're new into the program,

850
00:46:45,503 --> 00:46:46,897
you don't really question a whole lot.

851
00:46:46,921 --> 00:46:49,150
Well, you know, years later,
when you actually look at the footage,

852
00:46:49,174 --> 00:46:51,254
you go, "You know what?
He didn't do anything wrong."

853
00:46:51,301 --> 00:46:52,862
That whale just landed on him, you know.

854
00:46:52,886 --> 00:46:55,180
That whale just went to the wrong spot.

855
00:46:55,346 --> 00:46:56,946
It could have been aggression.
Who knows?

856
00:46:57,056 --> 00:47:00,059
But it was not the trainer's fault
at all, watching that video.

857
00:47:04,772 --> 00:47:08,151
When I saw the video
of the killer whale landing on John,

858
00:47:08,318 --> 00:47:10,004
I mean, it just absolutely
took my breath away.

859
00:47:10,028 --> 00:47:11,029
I gasped.

860
00:47:11,196 --> 00:47:12,381
I watched it two or three times,

861
00:47:12,405 --> 00:47:13,966
and every time I saw that, I just gasped.

862
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:15,510
I could not believe what I was seeing.

863
00:47:15,575 --> 00:47:17,368
What kept his body together is...

864
00:47:17,535 --> 00:47:19,412
His wetsuit basically held him together.

865
00:47:19,579 --> 00:47:21,098
But I know he's had multiple surgeries

866
00:47:21,122 --> 00:47:23,249
and he's got tons of hardware in his body.

867
00:47:23,416 --> 00:47:26,419
And it's hard for me to believe
that I didn't actually see that video

868
00:47:26,586 --> 00:47:28,796
while I was actually an animal trainer

869
00:47:28,963 --> 00:47:31,007
because it seems to me that every person

870
00:47:31,174 --> 00:47:33,593
who works with killer whales
should have to watch that video.

871
00:47:38,431 --> 00:47:40,642
Tamarie...

872
00:47:40,808 --> 00:47:42,894
You know, Tamarie made mistakes.

873
00:47:43,061 --> 00:47:46,231
The most important one
was interacting with whales

874
00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:48,233
without a spotter.

875
00:47:49,651 --> 00:47:52,362
So she's putting her foot on Orkid,

876
00:47:52,529 --> 00:47:53,988
she's taking her foot off.

877
00:47:54,155 --> 00:47:57,659
She's putting her foot on Orkid,
her rostrum, she's taking it off.

878
00:47:57,825 --> 00:48:00,411
Watching the video, knowing Orkid,

879
00:48:00,578 --> 00:48:04,123
your stomach drops because you know
what's probably going to happen.

880
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:06,668
She grabbed her foot.

881
00:48:06,834 --> 00:48:10,004
Tamarie whips around and
she grabs the gate.

882
00:48:10,171 --> 00:48:12,840
You see herjust ripped from the gate.

883
00:48:14,968 --> 00:48:17,428
At this point, Tamarie knows
that she's in trouble.

884
00:48:17,595 --> 00:48:18,888
She's under the water.

885
00:48:19,055 --> 00:48:21,057
Splash and Orkid both have her.

886
00:48:21,224 --> 00:48:22,892
She's totally out of view.

887
00:48:23,059 --> 00:48:25,603
No other trainer knows
that this is happening.

888
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:27,021
People start to scream.

889
00:48:27,188 --> 00:48:30,316
It was a park guest that was filming it.

890
00:48:30,483 --> 00:48:32,235
You hear... you don't see her,

891
00:48:32,402 --> 00:48:35,905
but you hear Tamarie surface.

892
00:48:36,072 --> 00:48:39,576
You hear herjust scream out,
"Somebody help me."

893
00:48:39,742 --> 00:48:42,161
And the way she screamed it,

894
00:48:42,328 --> 00:48:43,830
it was just
such a bloodcurdling...

895
00:48:43,997 --> 00:48:47,083
Like she knew she was going to die.

896
00:48:48,585 --> 00:48:51,838
Robin... when he ran over,
he made a brilliant decision.

897
00:48:52,005 --> 00:48:55,383
He told a trainer to run and take
the chain off Kasatka's gate.

898
00:48:56,509 --> 00:48:59,178
By taking that chain off,
it would give the precursor to Orkid

899
00:48:59,345 --> 00:49:00,930
that Kasatka was coming in.

900
00:49:01,097 --> 00:49:04,017
Kasatka's more dominant than Orkid,

901
00:49:04,183 --> 00:49:07,061
so Orkid let her go.

902
00:49:07,228 --> 00:49:11,482
Her arm, it was U-shaped.

903
00:49:11,649 --> 00:49:13,860
It was compound fractured.

904
00:49:15,903 --> 00:49:19,115
She's very lucky to be
alive, that's for sure.

905
00:49:32,503 --> 00:49:35,214
I believe it's 70 plus, maybe even more,

906
00:49:35,381 --> 00:49:37,884
just killer whale trainer accidents.

907
00:49:38,051 --> 00:49:42,388
Maybe 30 of them happened prior to me
being actually hired at SeaWorld.

908
00:49:42,555 --> 00:49:43,848
And I knew about none of them.

909
00:49:47,977 --> 00:49:50,772
I've seen animals come out at trainers.

910
00:49:55,693 --> 00:49:57,236
Something's wrong.

911
00:49:57,403 --> 00:49:58,905
I've seen people get slammed.

912
00:50:11,876 --> 00:50:15,797
The whales, they're just playing or...
Or they're upset for a second.

913
00:50:24,722 --> 00:50:26,849
It was just something
that happened, you know?

914
00:50:27,016 --> 00:50:29,519
This culture of "You get back on the horse"

915
00:50:29,686 --> 00:50:31,396
and you dive back in the water.

916
00:50:31,562 --> 00:50:34,583
"And if you're hurt, well, then we've got
other people that will replace you."

917
00:50:34,607 --> 00:50:37,026
And, "You came a long way.
Are you sure you want that?"

918
00:50:46,661 --> 00:50:48,788
A SeaWorld trainer is recovering today

919
00:50:48,955 --> 00:50:52,375
after a terrifying ordeal
in front of a horrified audience.

920
00:51:18,443 --> 00:51:21,988
For some reason,
the whale just took a different approach

921
00:51:22,155 --> 00:51:23,948
to what it was going to do

922
00:51:24,115 --> 00:51:27,410
with a very senior,
very experienced trainer, Ken Peters,

923
00:51:27,577 --> 00:51:29,287
and dragged him to the bottom of the pool

924
00:51:29,454 --> 00:51:31,080
and held him at the bottom.

925
00:51:32,915 --> 00:51:35,251
Let him go, picked him up,

926
00:51:35,418 --> 00:51:36,836
took him down again.

927
00:51:43,885 --> 00:51:48,556
And these periods he was taken down
were pretty close to the mark.

928
00:51:48,723 --> 00:51:52,518
You know, a minute, a minute 20.

929
00:51:57,064 --> 00:51:59,192
When he was at the
surface, he didn't panic,

930
00:51:59,358 --> 00:52:01,027
he didn't thrash, he didn't scream.

931
00:52:01,194 --> 00:52:02,987
Maybe he's just built that way.

932
00:52:03,154 --> 00:52:05,865
But he stroked the whale.

933
00:52:09,994 --> 00:52:12,830
And the whale let go of one foot
and grabbed the other.

934
00:52:31,390 --> 00:52:34,769
That's a pretty deep pool
and he took him right down.

935
00:52:34,936 --> 00:52:37,396
I think that's to two
atmospheres of pressure.

936
00:52:37,563 --> 00:52:40,691
Apparently, Mr. Peters
is an experienced scuba diver

937
00:52:40,858 --> 00:52:42,586
and I think that knowledge
probably contributed

938
00:52:42,610 --> 00:52:44,529
to how he was able to be hauled down there

939
00:52:44,695 --> 00:52:47,865
that quickly and stay
calm and know what to do.

940
00:52:50,284 --> 00:52:53,287
He knew what he was doing because
you can see him actually in the film.

941
00:52:53,454 --> 00:52:55,265
It's... the def is so good,
you can see him ventilating.

942
00:52:55,289 --> 00:52:56,958
You can see him ventilating really hard.

943
00:52:57,124 --> 00:53:00,211
So he knows about swimming
and diving and being underwater.

944
00:53:00,378 --> 00:53:03,673
He may have been assuming
he was going under again.

945
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,511
I did not walk away unimpressed
by his calm demeanor

946
00:53:08,678 --> 00:53:10,471
during that whole affair.

947
00:53:13,891 --> 00:53:15,852
I would be scared shitless.

948
00:53:34,287 --> 00:53:36,289
He was near to the end.

949
00:53:38,165 --> 00:53:42,712
Presumably, Ken Peters
had a relationship with this whale.

950
00:53:42,879 --> 00:53:45,381
Maybe he did.
Maybe that's what saved him.

951
00:53:45,548 --> 00:53:49,385
But Peters got the whale to let him go.

952
00:53:50,761 --> 00:53:52,305
And they strung a net across.

953
00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:05,484
And Ken Peters pulled himself
over the float line

954
00:54:05,651 --> 00:54:08,571
and swam like a demon
to a slide-out

955
00:54:08,738 --> 00:54:11,449
because the whale was
coming right behind him.

956
00:54:11,616 --> 00:54:13,951
The whale jumped over and
came right after him.

957
00:54:14,118 --> 00:54:15,328
He tried to stand up and run.

958
00:54:15,494 --> 00:54:16,722
Of course, his feet were damaged.

959
00:54:16,746 --> 00:54:19,749
I mean, he just fell and he scrambled.

960
00:54:22,043 --> 00:54:23,920
And they take this as a prime example

961
00:54:24,086 --> 00:54:25,671
of their training working.

962
00:54:25,838 --> 00:54:29,634
And they say, "Just stand back
and stay calm," and that did work.

963
00:54:30,676 --> 00:54:34,263
They claim this as a victory

964
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:36,390
of how they do business.

965
00:54:41,479 --> 00:54:44,774
And maybe so, but it can
also be interpreted

966
00:54:44,941 --> 00:54:48,486
as a hair's breadth away
from another fatality.

967
00:54:55,284 --> 00:54:57,078
Hi, Shamu. Hi, everybody.

968
00:54:57,244 --> 00:54:59,622
<i>We're the Johnsons from Detroit, Michigan.</i>

969
00:54:59,789 --> 00:55:01,749
<i>We sure had a great time
when we visited SeaWorld.</i>

970
00:55:01,832 --> 00:55:03,250
<i>It's one of our favorite places.</i>

971
00:55:03,417 --> 00:55:06,671
<i>Yeah, I like the part when Shamu
gets everybody wet.</i>

972
00:55:06,837 --> 00:55:08,965
<i>When the whales get close to the glass</i>

973
00:55:09,131 --> 00:55:10,591
<i>and start kicking out the water?</i>

974
00:55:10,758 --> 00:55:12,343
<i>Whamo! You're a goner.</i>

975
00:55:22,228 --> 00:55:26,232
<i>Orange County's sheriff's deputies
have identified the 27-year-old man</i>

976
00:55:26,399 --> 00:55:29,235
<i>found dead in a killer
whale's tank at SeaWorld.</i>

977
00:55:29,402 --> 00:55:33,155
<i>The victim is Daniel P. Dukes
from South Carolina.</i>

978
00:55:33,322 --> 00:55:36,158
<i>Dukes was found yesterday
draped over the back of Tilikum,</i>

979
00:55:36,325 --> 00:55:39,161
<i>the largest orca held in captivity.</i>

980
00:55:39,328 --> 00:55:42,456
Well, all I know is
the public relations version of it...

981
00:55:42,623 --> 00:55:45,501
He was a young man that had been arrested

982
00:55:45,668 --> 00:55:48,295
not long before he snuck into SeaWorld.

983
00:55:48,462 --> 00:55:50,131
Maybe he climbed the barbed wire fence

984
00:55:50,297 --> 00:55:53,509
around the perimeter and
stayed after hours.

985
00:55:53,676 --> 00:55:57,138
Perfect story line...
A mentally disturbed guy

986
00:55:57,304 --> 00:56:00,141
hides in the park after hours
and strips his clothes off

987
00:56:00,307 --> 00:56:03,394
and decides he wants to have
a magical experience with an orca

988
00:56:03,561 --> 00:56:06,439
and drowns because he became hypothermic.

989
00:56:06,605 --> 00:56:08,482
Right. So that's the story line

990
00:56:08,649 --> 00:56:10,569
and none of us were there
to know the difference.

991
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:14,155
He was not detected by
the night watch trainers

992
00:56:14,321 --> 00:56:16,365
who were presumably at that station.

993
00:56:16,532 --> 00:56:18,367
There are cameras all over SeaWorld.

994
00:56:18,534 --> 00:56:20,786
There are cameras all over
the back of Shamu Stadium

995
00:56:20,953 --> 00:56:21,954
pointing every which way.

996
00:56:22,121 --> 00:56:24,206
There are underwater cameras.

997
00:56:24,373 --> 00:56:28,252
I find it hard to believe
that nobody knew until the morning

998
00:56:28,419 --> 00:56:30,254
that there was a body in there.

999
00:56:30,421 --> 00:56:33,049
They have a night watch
trainer every night.

1000
00:56:33,215 --> 00:56:36,218
That person didn't hear
any splashing or screaming?

1001
00:56:36,385 --> 00:56:39,722
I mean, I just find that really suspicious.

1002
00:56:39,889 --> 00:56:41,182
One of the employees...

1003
00:56:41,348 --> 00:56:43,410
I don't know if it was
a physical therapist or somebody...

1004
00:56:43,434 --> 00:56:47,688
Was coming in in the morning
and there was Tilikum,

1005
00:56:47,855 --> 00:56:50,608
you know, with a dead guy,
a dead, naked guy on his back,

1006
00:56:50,775 --> 00:56:54,820
kind of parading him around the back pool.

1007
00:56:54,987 --> 00:56:57,615
The public relations spin on this was that

1008
00:56:57,782 --> 00:57:01,327
he was kind of a drifter
and died of hypothermia.

1009
00:57:01,494 --> 00:57:05,164
But the medical examiner reports

1010
00:57:05,331 --> 00:57:07,333
were more graphic than that.

1011
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:10,127
For example, Tilikum stripped him,

1012
00:57:10,294 --> 00:57:11,796
bit off his genitals.

1013
00:57:11,962 --> 00:57:14,381
There was bite marks all over his body.

1014
00:57:14,548 --> 00:57:18,469
Now, whether that was post-death
or pre-death, I don't know.

1015
00:57:18,636 --> 00:57:21,263
But, yeah, all I can comment on

1016
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:24,391
is that the guy definitely
jumped in the wrong pool.

1017
00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:34,276
So why keep Tilikum there?

1018
00:57:34,443 --> 00:57:37,154
This guy, he has a proven
track record of killing people.

1019
00:57:37,321 --> 00:57:40,074
He's clearly a liability
to the institution.

1020
00:57:40,241 --> 00:57:43,160
Why keep him around?
Well, it's quite simple to answer.

1021
00:57:43,327 --> 00:57:45,663
And that is that his semen
is worth a lot of money.

1022
00:57:55,422 --> 00:57:57,299
Over the years, Tilikum has been

1023
00:57:57,466 --> 00:58:00,177
one of the main breeding
whales at SeaWorld.

1024
00:58:03,931 --> 00:58:06,934
It's brilliant because they can
inseminate way more female whales,

1025
00:58:07,101 --> 00:58:09,103
because they can just
get his sperm and freeze it.

1026
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:11,313
And then he's basically
operating as a sperm bank.

1027
00:58:13,107 --> 00:58:15,401
In a reputable breeding
program, rule number one

1028
00:58:15,568 --> 00:58:18,362
is you certainly would not breed
an animal that has shown

1029
00:58:18,529 --> 00:58:21,198
a history of aggression towards humans.

1030
00:58:21,365 --> 00:58:24,368
Imagine if you had a pit
bull who had killed.

1031
00:58:24,535 --> 00:58:26,537
That animal would have
likely been put down.

1032
00:58:26,704 --> 00:58:28,581
But in the entire
SeaWorld collection...

1033
00:58:28,747 --> 00:58:32,126
It's like 54% of the whales
in SeaWorld's collection

1034
00:58:32,293 --> 00:58:35,004
now have Tilikum's genes.

1035
00:58:48,225 --> 00:58:51,061
The fall is to assume that
all killer whales are like Tilikum.

1036
00:58:51,228 --> 00:58:53,331
You have to look at their
learning history from birth.

1037
00:58:53,355 --> 00:58:56,817
You have to understand
why Tilikum was a hazard

1038
00:58:56,984 --> 00:58:58,569
to anybody in the water.

1039
00:58:58,736 --> 00:59:01,947
And you have to understand that none
of the other killer whales at SeaWorld

1040
00:59:02,114 --> 00:59:03,508
that are in that system are that way.

1041
00:59:03,532 --> 00:59:05,993
What about the incident at Loro Parque?

1042
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,620
First of all, I... I can't...

1043
00:59:07,786 --> 00:59:11,832
I can't speak with specificity
about Loro Parque.

1044
00:59:11,999 --> 00:59:13,918
I wasn't there.

1045
00:59:14,084 --> 00:59:16,295
In fact, I know very little about it.

1046
00:59:16,462 --> 00:59:18,923
Probably about as much
as the general public knows.

1047
01:00:22,152 --> 01:00:24,613
Loro Parque, it's in the Canary Islands,

1048
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:26,907
which is an autonomous region of Spain.

1049
01:00:27,074 --> 01:00:30,119
It's the largest tourist attraction
in all of Spain.

1050
01:00:35,666 --> 01:00:38,669
And when SeaWorld sent the
orcas to Loro Parque,

1051
01:00:38,836 --> 01:00:41,255
everybody was always questioning,

1052
01:00:41,422 --> 01:00:46,427
like, how did they make
that leap to send four young orcas

1053
01:00:46,593 --> 01:00:49,555
to a park off the west coast of Africa

1054
01:00:49,722 --> 01:00:54,435
with trainers who... a lot of them
had never been around orcas before?

1055
01:00:56,562 --> 01:00:58,314
Nothing was ready.

1056
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,857
The venue wasn't ready.

1057
01:01:00,024 --> 01:01:03,485
It wasn't ready for the orcas,
it wasn't ready for a show.

1058
01:01:03,652 --> 01:01:06,155
The owner of the park
didn't want to lose revenue

1059
01:01:06,322 --> 01:01:08,782
by shutting down the pools
and repairing them.

1060
01:01:08,949 --> 01:01:10,951
So for three years, the
animals ate the pools

1061
01:01:11,118 --> 01:01:13,120
and for three years
the animals had problems...

1062
01:01:13,287 --> 01:01:15,956
With their teeth, with their stomachs.

1063
01:01:16,123 --> 01:01:17,643
So that's the reason why these animals

1064
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:19,793
are enduring the endoscope procedures.

1065
01:01:21,378 --> 01:01:23,213
Back up. Now back up, back up.

1066
01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:25,257
Those are still SeaWorld's animals

1067
01:01:25,424 --> 01:01:27,718
and they are responsible for those animals.

1068
01:01:37,644 --> 01:01:40,439
Loro Parque doesn't have a good reputation.

1069
01:01:40,606 --> 01:01:44,318
People that work in the business
know the reputation of places

1070
01:01:44,485 --> 01:01:47,571
and Loro Parque does not
have a good reputation.

1071
01:01:47,738 --> 01:01:50,866
They didn't spend the same amount
of time as the SeaWorld trainers,

1072
01:01:51,033 --> 01:01:52,951
did not go through the same regimen

1073
01:01:53,118 --> 01:01:55,913
that the SeaWorld trainers went through.

1074
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,707
You know, and Alexis really was
the best trainer.

1075
01:01:58,874 --> 01:02:01,877
And I did say... I said,
"You're the only trainer there

1076
01:02:02,044 --> 01:02:05,422
that can hold his own
with a SeaWorld trainer."

1077
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:07,925
And I said, "But you need
to be careful."

1078
01:02:41,708 --> 01:02:43,668
Anywhere along the line
it could have been stopped

1079
01:02:43,710 --> 01:02:46,296
because everyone knew
it was a tragedy waiting to happen.

1080
01:02:46,463 --> 01:02:49,007
But no one ever did anything about it.

1081
01:02:49,174 --> 01:02:50,509
And in the end,

1082
01:02:50,676 --> 01:02:53,595
it was the best trainer who lost his life.

1083
01:05:12,109 --> 01:05:13,944
Those were SeaWorld's whales.

1084
01:05:14,111 --> 01:05:16,488
They were trained using
SeaWorld's techniques.

1085
01:05:17,573 --> 01:05:21,868
And their training was being supervised
at the time of the fatal accident

1086
01:05:22,035 --> 01:05:26,123
by one of their senior
trainers from San Diego.

1087
01:05:48,103 --> 01:05:51,398
For somebody to get up and
say in a court of law

1088
01:05:51,565 --> 01:05:54,985
they have no knowledge of the linkages

1089
01:05:55,152 --> 01:05:59,197
between SeaWorld
and this park in Tenerife is well...

1090
01:05:59,364 --> 01:06:02,576
Either she doesn't know
and is telling the truth

1091
01:06:02,743 --> 01:06:04,995
or it's just a bold-faced lie.

1092
01:06:09,333 --> 01:06:12,336
<i>As trainers, we never forget
Shamu's true potential.</i>

1093
01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:14,296
<i>We see it each and every day.</i>

1094
01:06:14,463 --> 01:06:18,175
<i>That's why all of our interactions
are very carefully thought out,</i>

1095
01:06:18,342 --> 01:06:20,427
<i>especially our water work interaction.</i>

1096
01:06:20,594 --> 01:06:22,095
<i>Whoa!</i>

1097
01:06:29,728 --> 01:06:31,938
<i>You big dork.</i>

1098
01:06:32,105 --> 01:06:34,066
<i>Especially our water work interactions</i>

1099
01:06:34,232 --> 01:06:36,943
<i>because they're potentially
the most dangerous.</i>

1100
01:06:37,110 --> 01:06:40,739
I'd been expecting it
since the second person was killed.

1101
01:06:40,906 --> 01:06:44,117
I'd been expecting somebody
to be killed by Tilikum.

1102
01:06:44,284 --> 01:06:45,911
I'm surprised it took as long as it did.

1103
01:06:46,078 --> 01:06:48,121
<i>First tonight,
a six-ton killer whale</i>

1104
01:06:48,288 --> 01:06:50,957
<i>has lived up to its name,
killing an experienced trainer</i>

1105
01:06:51,124 --> 01:06:53,251
<i>at SeaWorld, Orlando, today.</i>

1106
01:06:53,418 --> 01:06:54,878
<i>A tourist at an earlier show</i>

1107
01:06:55,045 --> 01:06:56,880
<i>said the animal seemed agitated.</i>

1108
01:06:57,047 --> 01:07:00,175
<i>Trainers complained
the whales weren't cooperating.</i>

1109
01:07:00,342 --> 01:07:02,469
The whole show, the main show,

1110
01:07:02,636 --> 01:07:04,513
was a disaster that day.

1111
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,848
There was, you know,
whales chasing each other

1112
01:07:07,015 --> 01:07:09,494
and eventually the trainers decided
that they had to stop the show

1113
01:07:09,518 --> 01:07:11,496
because they couldn't
get the whales under control.

1114
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,730
Tilikum was in the back pool

1115
01:07:13,897 --> 01:07:18,735
set up to do a Dine with Shamu
performance with Dawn.

1116
01:07:18,902 --> 01:07:22,322
Likely she saw what had gone on
during the main show

1117
01:07:22,489 --> 01:07:26,034
and so she had probably felt
more pressure to do a good show.

1118
01:07:27,828 --> 01:07:29,663
Yay!

1119
01:07:29,830 --> 01:07:31,790
When you watch the whole video, you can see

1120
01:07:31,957 --> 01:07:34,626
that Tilikum is actually really with Dawn

1121
01:07:34,793 --> 01:07:36,545
in the beginning of the video.

1122
01:07:39,089 --> 01:07:41,717
There's a couple of behaviors
that she asks him to do

1123
01:07:41,883 --> 01:07:43,844
where Tilikum just jumps right in

1124
01:07:44,010 --> 01:07:46,388
and he does exactly what
she asks him to do.

1125
01:07:52,644 --> 01:07:54,521
There seemed to be a point in the session

1126
01:07:54,688 --> 01:07:56,982
where things went south, so to speak.

1127
01:07:57,149 --> 01:07:58,692
And in my humble opinion,

1128
01:07:58,859 --> 01:08:02,320
it was at that missed bridge...
Whistle bridge,

1129
01:08:02,487 --> 01:08:04,364
on the perimeter pec wave.

1130
01:08:04,531 --> 01:08:07,075
She asked him to do a perimeter pec wave

1131
01:08:07,242 --> 01:08:10,954
where she asked him to basically
go all the way around the pool

1132
01:08:11,121 --> 01:08:12,706
and wave his pectoral flipper.

1133
01:08:15,083 --> 01:08:17,961
And she blows her whistle...

1134
01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:19,629
- There we go.
- ...which is a bridge,

1135
01:08:19,796 --> 01:08:21,983
which tells the animal that, okay,
you've done a good job.

1136
01:08:22,007 --> 01:08:23,133
Come back and get food.

1137
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:25,010
But he missed that cue.

1138
01:08:26,219 --> 01:08:28,555
<i>He likes waving so much.
That's beyond waving.</i>

1139
01:08:28,722 --> 01:08:30,891
And he went all the way around the pool

1140
01:08:31,057 --> 01:08:32,851
on this perimeter pec wave.

1141
01:08:33,018 --> 01:08:35,218
<i>That's all right.
We're going to let him keep on waving.</i>

1142
01:08:36,354 --> 01:08:38,690
My interpretation is that
he didn't hear the whistle.

1143
01:08:38,857 --> 01:08:41,318
So not only did he not hear the bridge,

1144
01:08:41,485 --> 01:08:43,987
then he went and did
a perfect behavior and came back,

1145
01:08:44,154 --> 01:08:47,699
and what he got was what we call
a three-second neutral response,

1146
01:08:47,866 --> 01:08:49,385
which is just a way to let the animal know,

1147
01:08:49,409 --> 01:08:50,889
"No, you didn't do the correct thing.

1148
01:08:50,994 --> 01:08:53,431
You're not going to get rewarded.
And then we're going to move on."

1149
01:08:53,455 --> 01:08:54,974
And then you can also see through the video

1150
01:08:54,998 --> 01:08:57,000
that Dawn is running out of food.

1151
01:08:58,126 --> 01:08:59,669
The animals can sense

1152
01:08:59,836 --> 01:09:02,076
when you're getting to the bottom
of your bucket of fish,

1153
01:09:02,130 --> 01:09:04,341
because they can hear
the ice clanging around

1154
01:09:04,508 --> 01:09:06,968
and the kind of fishy, soupy water
at the bottom.

1155
01:09:07,135 --> 01:09:10,722
And the handfuls of fish that
they're getting delivered by the trainer

1156
01:09:10,889 --> 01:09:12,182
are all getting smaller.

1157
01:09:12,349 --> 01:09:15,352
So they know that they're coming down
to the end of session.

1158
01:09:15,519 --> 01:09:17,955
When you see the difference
between the beginning of the video

1159
01:09:17,979 --> 01:09:19,606
and the end of the video, you can see

1160
01:09:19,773 --> 01:09:23,193
that he's just not quite
on his game anymore.

1161
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,486
There was no food left.

1162
01:09:24,653 --> 01:09:27,447
She kept asking him for
more and more behaviors.

1163
01:09:27,614 --> 01:09:29,454
He wasn't getting reinforced
for the behaviors

1164
01:09:29,491 --> 01:09:30,617
that he was doing correctly.

1165
01:09:30,784 --> 01:09:33,829
He probably was frustrated towards the end.

1166
01:09:35,622 --> 01:09:38,959
Then she walked around
the perimeter of G pool.

1167
01:09:39,125 --> 01:09:40,836
He followed her.

1168
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:48,969
And then continued over
into the rocky ledge area

1169
01:09:49,135 --> 01:09:53,431
where she laid down with him
to do a relationship session,

1170
01:09:53,598 --> 01:09:56,518
which is...
It's quiet time, basically.

1171
01:09:56,685 --> 01:09:59,396
Tilikum at some point
grabbed ahold of her left forearm

1172
01:09:59,563 --> 01:10:02,315
and started to drag her
and eventually did a barrel roll

1173
01:10:02,482 --> 01:10:04,109
and pulled her in.

1174
01:10:04,276 --> 01:10:07,070
It may have started as play or frustration

1175
01:10:07,237 --> 01:10:11,783
and clearly escalated to be
very violent behavior

1176
01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:14,494
that I think was anything but play.

1177
01:10:14,661 --> 01:10:16,997
In the end, he basically

1178
01:10:17,163 --> 01:10:19,374
just completely mutilated that poor girl.

1179
01:10:22,586 --> 01:10:26,756
They were gathering
all of the trainers at the Texas park.

1180
01:10:26,923 --> 01:10:31,052
He said, "There's been an accident"

1181
01:10:31,219 --> 01:10:34,180
at the Florida park
and a trainer was killed."

1182
01:10:35,181 --> 01:10:38,435
Hearing that it was Dawn,
I was... I couldn't believe it.

1183
01:10:38,602 --> 01:10:40,604
I just remember saying
to myself, "Not Dawn."

1184
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:42,397
It can't be Dawn."

1185
01:10:42,564 --> 01:10:46,943
He said that...
"And he still has her."

1186
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:49,863
And I just...

1187
01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:52,157
was so disturbed by that

1188
01:10:52,324 --> 01:10:56,620
and the reality of how powerless we are.

1189
01:10:56,786 --> 01:11:00,123
Avulsion, laceration, abrasion, fractures.

1190
01:11:00,290 --> 01:11:02,792
Fractures and associated hemorrhages.

1191
01:11:02,959 --> 01:11:05,545
Blunt force traumas

1192
01:11:05,712 --> 01:11:08,048
to the main body, to the extremities.

1193
01:11:09,257 --> 01:11:12,761
To see this meted out against a trainer...

1194
01:11:12,928 --> 01:11:15,722
and I cannot fathom the reason.

1195
01:11:15,889 --> 01:11:18,141
It's shocking.

1196
01:11:18,308 --> 01:11:22,145
The lawyer for OSHA asked me
what I thought we'd learned,

1197
01:11:22,312 --> 01:11:23,980
and I'm sitting in the courtroom

1198
01:11:24,147 --> 01:11:28,109
and I've got the Keltie Byrne
case file in one hand

1199
01:11:28,276 --> 01:11:30,028
and I've got Dawn Brancheau in the other.

1200
01:11:30,195 --> 01:11:32,155
And they're almost, to
the day, 20 years apart.

1201
01:11:32,322 --> 01:11:34,199
And I'm looking at these two things.

1202
01:11:34,366 --> 01:11:36,868
My only answer is, "Nothing."

1203
01:11:37,035 --> 01:11:39,079
In fact, it's not a damn thing.

1204
01:11:39,245 --> 01:11:40,525
We have not learned a damn thing

1205
01:11:40,664 --> 01:11:43,583
for something like that
to happen 20 years apart.

1206
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:46,669
<i>Could you tell
if it was an accident or if this...</i>

1207
01:11:46,711 --> 01:11:48,981
<i>Did this female trainer
work with this whale on a regular basis?</i>

1208
01:11:49,005 --> 01:11:52,384
<i>I don't know. What apparently happened
is we had a female trainer</i>

1209
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:54,135
<i>back in the whale holding area.</i>

1210
01:11:54,302 --> 01:11:56,596
<i>She apparently slipped
or fell into the tank</i>

1211
01:11:56,763 --> 01:11:59,140
<i>and was fatally injured
by one of the whales.</i>

1212
01:11:59,307 --> 01:12:01,601
At first, SeaWorld reported
that a trainer slipped

1213
01:12:01,768 --> 01:12:04,145
and fell in the water and was drowned.

1214
01:12:04,312 --> 01:12:05,814
So that was the first report.

1215
01:12:05,981 --> 01:12:08,441
It wasn't until eyewitness
accounts disputed that

1216
01:12:08,608 --> 01:12:10,002
that they had to go back in their huddle

1217
01:12:10,026 --> 01:12:11,921
and say, "Wait a minute.
We gotta come up with a new plan."

1218
01:12:11,945 --> 01:12:13,488
<i>New tonight...
SeaWorld has confirmed</i>

1219
01:12:13,655 --> 01:12:16,241
<i>the killer whale pulled
the woman into the water.</i>

1220
01:12:16,408 --> 01:12:17,951
<i>She didn't fall into the tank</i>

1221
01:12:18,118 --> 01:12:20,578
<i>as the sheriff's department
initially reported.</i>

1222
01:12:20,745 --> 01:12:23,873
The new plan is that he
grabbed her ponytail.

1223
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,794
This is a subtle way of placing
the blame on Dawn's shoulders.

1224
01:12:27,961 --> 01:12:29,754
She shouldn't have had a long ponytail,

1225
01:12:29,921 --> 01:12:32,521
or if she did have that ponytail,
it should have been up in a bun.

1226
01:12:32,674 --> 01:12:34,926
<i>Dawn, if she was standing here
with me right now,</i>

1227
01:12:35,093 --> 01:12:38,430
<i>would tell you that it was her mistake</i>

1228
01:12:38,596 --> 01:12:40,348
<i>in allowing that to happen.</i>

1229
01:12:40,515 --> 01:12:42,517
They blamed her.

1230
01:12:42,684 --> 01:12:44,686
How dare you?

1231
01:12:44,853 --> 01:12:48,606
How disrespectful for you to blame her

1232
01:12:48,773 --> 01:12:52,110
when she's not even alive
to defend herself.

1233
01:12:52,277 --> 01:12:54,487
<i>He grabbed her ponytail
and pulled her into the water.</i>

1234
01:12:54,654 --> 01:12:56,114
<i>That's as simple as it gets.</i>

1235
01:12:56,281 --> 01:12:58,366
There are photographs
of plenty of other trainers

1236
01:12:58,533 --> 01:13:00,453
doing exactly the same
thing that she was doing,

1237
01:13:00,493 --> 01:13:04,873
so I knew that SeaWorld was lying
about the fact that this was her fault.

1238
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,752
The ponytail, in all
likelihood, is just a tale.

1239
01:13:10,211 --> 01:13:13,965
The safety spotter, who apparently
didn't actually see the takedown,

1240
01:13:14,132 --> 01:13:15,133
came up with that.

1241
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,927
<i>- Are you excited?
- Yeah!</i>

1242
01:13:18,094 --> 01:13:19,763
<i>During the spotter's testimony,</i>

1243
01:13:19,929 --> 01:13:22,807
<i>OSHA pushed him to say
that he wasn't really sure</i>

1244
01:13:22,974 --> 01:13:25,268
<i>that it was her ponytail
that was in the whale's mouth,</i>

1245
01:13:25,435 --> 01:13:29,189
<i>that he just saw her underwater
and he assumed it was the ponytail.</i>

1246
01:13:29,355 --> 01:13:31,316
<i>OSHA contends that the whale came up</i>

1247
01:13:31,483 --> 01:13:33,193
<i>and grabbed Dawn Brancheau's arm,</i>

1248
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:35,439
<i>saying that that was another level
of aggressiveness.</i>

1249
01:13:35,487 --> 01:13:38,490
<i>And again, SeaWorld is saying
it was not an aggressive move.</i>

1250
01:13:38,656 --> 01:13:40,784
<i>One of SeaWorld's top
curators, Chuck Tompkins,</i>

1251
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:43,078
<i>said when Dawn Brancheau
was pulled off that ledge,</i>

1252
01:13:43,244 --> 01:13:46,289
<i>it wasn't necessarily
aggressive behavior by the whale.</i>

1253
01:13:46,456 --> 01:13:50,043
The initial grab was not
an act of aggression.

1254
01:13:50,210 --> 01:13:52,420
This is not a crazed animal.

1255
01:13:52,587 --> 01:13:54,798
The industry has a vested interest
in spinning these

1256
01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:57,425
so that the animals continue to appear

1257
01:13:57,592 --> 01:14:00,970
like cuddly teddy bears
that are completely safe.

1258
01:14:01,137 --> 01:14:02,972
You know, that sells a lot of Shamu dolls,

1259
01:14:03,139 --> 01:14:07,143
it sells a lot of tickets at the gate,
and that's the story line

1260
01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:10,355
that they're going to continue
to stick with for as long as they can.

1261
01:14:28,206 --> 01:14:32,836
Recognize that those that say
this is a crazed animal

1262
01:14:33,002 --> 01:14:36,005
that acted out and grabbed
Dawn maliciously,

1263
01:14:36,172 --> 01:14:41,553
they want to prove the theorem
that captivity makes animals crazy.

1264
01:14:41,719 --> 01:14:43,346
And that is just false.

1265
01:14:43,513 --> 01:14:45,932
All whales in captivity have a bad life.

1266
01:14:46,099 --> 01:14:47,767
They're all emotionally destroyed.

1267
01:14:47,934 --> 01:14:50,854
They're all psychologically traumatized,

1268
01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:53,690
so they are ticking time bombs.

1269
01:14:53,857 --> 01:14:55,233
It's not just Tilikum.

1270
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,819
We have to separate
what happened to Dawn...

1271
01:14:57,986 --> 01:15:01,114
And, as tragic as it is, no one wants
to ever see it happen again.

1272
01:15:01,281 --> 01:15:03,491
Can SeaWorld create an environment

1273
01:15:03,658 --> 01:15:04,951
where it never happens again?

1274
01:15:05,118 --> 01:15:07,162
Yes, I absolutely believe they can.

1275
01:15:10,540 --> 01:15:12,709
What if there were no SeaWorlds?

1276
01:15:12,876 --> 01:15:16,087
I can't imagine a society,
with the value we put

1277
01:15:16,254 --> 01:15:18,798
on marine mammals, if
those parks didn't exist.

1278
01:15:18,965 --> 01:15:22,635
I'm not at all interested
in having my daughter,

1279
01:15:22,802 --> 01:15:24,387
who is three and a half,

1280
01:15:24,554 --> 01:15:27,348
grow up thinking that it's normalized

1281
01:15:27,515 --> 01:15:30,393
to have these intelligent,
highly evolved animals

1282
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:31,728
in concrete pools.

1283
01:15:31,895 --> 01:15:34,439
I don't want her to think
that's how we treat the kin

1284
01:15:34,606 --> 01:15:37,525
that we find ourselves
around on this planet.

1285
01:15:37,692 --> 01:15:39,194
I think it's atrocious.

1286
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,000
<i>This hearing is expected to last all week</i>

1287
01:15:41,112 --> 01:15:43,990
<i>with OSHA continuing to work
toward this theory...</i>

1288
01:15:44,157 --> 01:15:47,660
<i>That SeaWorld knew there was
a calculated risk of injury or death,</i>

1289
01:15:47,827 --> 01:15:50,788
<i>but put trainers in the water
with the whales anyway,</i>

1290
01:15:50,955 --> 01:15:53,082
<i>while SeaWorld will say
that Dawn Brancheau's death</i>

1291
01:15:53,249 --> 01:15:55,001
<i>was an isolated incident.</i>

1292
01:15:55,168 --> 01:15:58,129
<i>Reporting live in Seminole County,
Dave McDaniel, WESH 2 News.</i>

1293
01:16:08,223 --> 01:16:09,224
There's something wrong.

1294
01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:14,395
You know with Tilikum that
there's something wrong and that's...

1295
01:16:14,562 --> 01:16:17,732
When you have a relationship
with that animal and you...

1296
01:16:19,192 --> 01:16:23,571
You understand that he's killing
not to be a savage.

1297
01:16:23,738 --> 01:16:26,407
He's not killing because he's just crazy.

1298
01:16:26,574 --> 01:16:29,410
He's not killing because
he doesn't know what he's doing.

1299
01:16:29,577 --> 01:16:31,246
He's killing because he's frustrated

1300
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:37,001
and he's got aggravations
and he doesn't know how to...

1301
01:16:37,168 --> 01:16:39,295
He has no outlet for it.

1302
01:16:40,380 --> 01:16:43,091
Now Tilikum is spending
a great deal of time by himself

1303
01:16:43,258 --> 01:16:47,095
and basically floating lifeless in a pool.

1304
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,057
<i>Three hours now...</i>

1305
01:16:51,224 --> 01:16:53,184
<i>and he hasn't moved.</i>

1306
01:16:54,394 --> 01:16:56,104
They try to sugarcoat it by saying,

1307
01:16:56,271 --> 01:16:57,998
"He comes out in the front pool
every once in a while.

1308
01:16:58,022 --> 01:16:59,315
Now he's doing shows."

1309
01:16:59,482 --> 01:17:01,042
Really? You know
what he does in a show?

1310
01:17:02,068 --> 01:17:03,778
He does a few bows

1311
01:17:03,945 --> 01:17:07,490
and then he goes back in
his little jail cell.

1312
01:17:07,657 --> 01:17:08,950
That's his life.

1313
01:17:11,035 --> 01:17:13,204
I feel sad for Tilikum.

1314
01:17:13,371 --> 01:17:16,416
A regal thing like him
swimming around the tank

1315
01:17:16,582 --> 01:17:18,376
with his fin flopped over like that

1316
01:17:18,543 --> 01:17:21,587
compared to a wild bull
killer whale that size,

1317
01:17:21,754 --> 01:17:24,257
which is one of the most kinetic
and dynamic things

1318
01:17:24,424 --> 01:17:25,967
you can imagine...

1319
01:17:28,428 --> 01:17:30,763
I feel sad when I see him.

1320
01:17:37,312 --> 01:17:39,063
<i>It's time to stop the shows.</i>

1321
01:17:39,230 --> 01:17:41,566
<i>It's time to stop forcing
animals to perform</i>

1322
01:17:41,733 --> 01:17:43,484
<i>in basically a circus environment.</i>

1323
01:17:43,651 --> 01:17:45,713
<i>And they should release the animals
that are young enough</i>

1324
01:17:45,737 --> 01:17:48,656
<i>and healthy enough to be released,
and the animals like Tilikum</i>

1325
01:17:48,823 --> 01:17:51,617
<i>who are old and sick and have put in
25 years in the industry</i>

1326
01:17:51,784 --> 01:17:53,344
<i>should be released to an open ocean pen</i>

1327
01:17:53,369 --> 01:17:54,649
<i>so they can live out their lives</i>

1328
01:17:54,746 --> 01:17:56,826
<i>and just experience
the natural rhythms of the ocean.</i>

1329
01:17:56,914 --> 01:17:58,708
<i>This is a multibillion-dollar
corporation</i>

1330
01:17:58,875 --> 01:18:02,712
<i>that makes its money
through the exploitation of orcas.</i>

1331
01:18:02,879 --> 01:18:05,214
<i>They're not suitable to have in captivity.</i>

1332
01:18:05,381 --> 01:18:07,592
<i>The whales are really bored.</i>

1333
01:18:07,759 --> 01:18:12,013
<i>You deprive them of all
this environmental stimulation.</i>

1334
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:14,140
<i>I think that in 50 years,</i>

1335
01:18:14,307 --> 01:18:17,101
<i>we'll look back and go,
"My God, what a barbaric time."</i>

1336
01:18:57,892 --> 01:19:00,520
Dawn Brancheau... DB, dream big.

1337
01:19:01,521 --> 01:19:05,066
Dawn was the most loving,
giving person you ever met.

1338
01:19:05,233 --> 01:19:08,486
Her smile just radiated.

1339
01:19:17,203 --> 01:19:19,831
She's comp... she fulfilled her life.

1340
01:20:08,254 --> 01:20:09,922
We saw whales

1341
01:20:10,089 --> 01:20:13,843
swimming in straight lines
with straight dorsal fins.

1342
01:20:15,219 --> 01:20:17,680
I was so honored to be there.

1343
01:20:23,144 --> 01:20:25,563
And I was so thankful
that I had sunglasses on

1344
01:20:25,730 --> 01:20:28,983
because the tears were kind of coming out.

1345
01:20:29,150 --> 01:20:31,819
And it was moving.