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Trash Buckets Children are pictures
people who are are a little worse
than you... but only a little.
Pail Children's Trash part of rival children
1980s in a good tradition
Anti-authoritarian stickers and jokes will be sold with gum for, I think it's a quarter.
They take off Cabbage Patch Kids dolls
as a bit dirty active character
bubble gum stickers
Remember, in 1985 we were still in the Cold War
and this is a Patch Cabbage child card
to be nuclear. And I'm like wow
You know this, means something.
I know that.
There are always smiles they are on their faces like something terrible is going on but I'm still good.
They are just jokes...
There has never been more a pleasant time to live,
time to get up wonder and heroic
achievements, as they say in the film Back to the Future,
Where we go, we don't need a road.
If you don't like it the subject of this next section,
just think about this too pass. This is Jeff Greenfield.
Just come to a neighboring school
and watch as the latest mode sweeps directly
in classrooms and then across continents.
Look at that if you dare because
most likely that is what interests you
young will old appall.
Latest Core problems.
Are you ready for Children Trash Trash?
* Dispose of like garbage
* We party all the time
* I can see you * Party at corner has apple juice *
* Freddy Roberts on the guitar
* We are trash bucket kids! *
We start...
Do you understand? You are sure?
I have to get this from my hand.
We just made it to Art house, art studio.
Do you want to hear that?
Yes, I don't know, isn't it funny to talk about it?
Hi, I'm Spiegelman Art.
I am a comic artist.
Um, and for decades I worked for Bubblegum Topps
The company makes a novelty the items to be sold with gum
and another is famous for its projects
I work with Topps is a Trash Rubbish Child.
And they're a parody of Cabbage Patch Kids
even though the lawyer doesn't want to hear
I said that. But they are the popular doll parody
uh, that's uh, allowing children to destroy parents' refrigerators and mocking each other and excoriate itself for
whatever the name, by has their small first name
below it is strange these funny pictures,
little uh, puppet kids.
And they are becoming a trend and Topps is basically something
in the fashion business.
At the top of the stack are comic strip artists below
is a comic book artist and somewhere far below right before
You hit the tattoo artist
are people who work in Bubblegum Topps.
Topps like, for me it ends the road in Brooklyn,
like real south end. And that
maybe around 45-50 minutes bus trip from where I live.
Topps is in Brooklyn then, in very, sort of,
romantic area - good from - good background for
Film mafia, where they put people in cement and goods
and throw it into the river. It is a warehouse and that road
very cool. And when you will go
in the building is like a bunker.
Like there is there is no window and I
do not know. It used to be really weird.
This is endless, Xeroxed a building that looks like that
others go forever and every direction near
seaside. In one
that kind of thing, the stone road is there
one building looks like the other,
except that, uh, separate doll head on the road
that you have to step
while walking and because of the place called
Uneeda Doll is right over the gum company.
The Uneeda Doll Company. And yes, I mean you know in our trip
to work with our coffee our hands, we will walk
path and there will be a doll head
like throwing litter sidewalks.
I'm sure it works the way to us - to -
into our work after the afternoon.
When I first went to Topps Bubblegum to meet Len Brown,
I don't know what to expect. And
so I took a dirty subway, out to the slums of Brooklyn,
walking on a gloomy road to this strange factory building I know
it's Topps because when I exit
from the subway stop I smell gum.
That's unique because of that gum made two flights above
Our editorial business office.
When you approach us builds like walking down
way. You can speak,
and sugar dust actually landed on your tongue.
And you can actually sweetness
air and smell it, you know from manufacturing. You know
You are approaching Topps. It is truly unique.
I'm Len Brown. I'm living in Bee Cave, Texas, and I
working in Topps for 40 years and the last 25, I was creative director in the New Product Development Department.
We started coming into the candy business in a much bigger way. Bazooka uhh, our big
chewing gum, I don't think I mentioned that name.
But Bazooka used to be maybe number one chewing gum in the country
at that time. Previously icons like America
in the 50s and 60s.
They are made as staple gum, not even the best
chewing gum finally but they
making bubblegum and that allow them to become franchises
to move to this baseball card.
And this guy who will do it is very important for
history popular culture
and of course for me, is named Woody Gelman.
Woody's task will come with trading card ideas.
Woody Gelman of course Topps' creative core.
He is a cartoonist.
He is a story and the first idea man
for Disney and then for Fleischer Brothers.
Will return to the earliest day, he helped create baseball card and rent all of this
outstanding artists to work on Topps products from people
EC, Norm Saunders then Robert Crumbs, Len Brown. The list goes away continuously.
But then we started talking about our various products can extinguish.
And more, there is the need for what they call
non-sports cards. They feel that is a market we don't have
really knocked to be as good as we can.
One of the first things we do
collectively is a civil war series I think is around & apos; 61.
We are ordered by president who is a company with
Centennial civil war is coming Let's take out the Civil War card
and Woody and I both at first thought it was a bad idea.
That's education. Children get it at school.
Why do they want a civil war card for?
and Woody has the idea well, we will make them want it.
We will make them commit violence
and bloody civil war battle.
We will show blood and stomach contents.
And & apos; look it was a big hit.
And it's a precursor to the Mars Attack.
The strange package is a very important one
the moment the Topps pop culture is involved,
grew out of hanging out with Woody.
Oh, Woody is the world biggest collector, I mean,
going to his house the house is a real treat.
it's like going to a large museum of pop culture.
Items that are nobody can see what it looks like
all Little Nemo Sunday pages. Many are original.
Many runs from
Life magazine when it's a humor magazine.
All old Argosy, Old Amazing Stories Pulps,
a long trip Saturday Night Post from the year & apos; 20s and & apos; 30s.
And what What Woody does is
collect one run that only lives as bound volume.
Two runs that he can separate.
And then say OK- this is Art Young's file.
Here it is File Harrison Cady.
Here it is File John Held.
He likes to arrange items at one time when no one has interested in this,
I can't tell you how far is outside this radar.
That's not the e-bay world.
That is the world where it finds it involved just meet someone happens to have a stack in their basement, you know.
And one day he brought in many of these things
to Topps on a that day I was there
and showed me and he said
I love these things.
This is an advertising card
from like in the 1890s and early 1900s.
They will be the thing will look like a tin
or ear corn is one that I remember...
airplanes... whatever.
And there will be an ad
for something printed on the back,
in the front is this very beautiful twist
print on light cardboard.
He said you know us must do this,
said Woody. I think what he imagined was
a bag a pre die cut ears
corn and apples with bites taken and whatever and something behind.
They are beautiful. But you say
what? Like we did make a box of cornflakes?
or peas with some peas in it?
Well, yes it will be good.
Well, isn't it better to do it like the way Mad did it and doing parody of these things,
rather than the real thing?
I remember the back cover one problem Mad has a spoof,
a spoof of the cigarette Salem.
But I cut the size package and show it to Woody
and he likes immediately.
And he or she Art suggested that
and it should be a little more illustrative.
Like a little funny guy doing something.
So there is a visual other than just
gag word. And I feel that
the beginning of the Wacky Package.
Uh, Harvey Kurtzman, the one who created Crazy,
have also done this kind of humanistic, if not
anti war, at least understand
about the actual war horror.
War comics when is equivalent to Sergeant Rock
it will be interesting pin grenade out of his mouth and throw it into the lime pile and say
This is one of them My Auntie Tillie!
Meanwhile Harvey Kurtzman comics war
who are aware of the fact that these are children
arranged into war and is being blown up
do not know what they have entered and they are
life is cut short as
real tragedy in war. It's the highlight of the Korean War
that they have become very popular
but I thought that the war was
comics that are never that popular
when Mad becomes which he created,
are the people who teach you question authority.
And I really believe that they have to do many things with 60 it's when it's a lot
members of my generation said "Hell no, we will not go".
Or "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many children did you kill today"?
and the like it's all born
from Mad it is counter-cultural influence.
Because of Harvey Kurtzman who created this object
has created a new paradigm.
That's kind of self-reflexive, ironic humor
who cut 1950s America is bland.
It used to be basically said
All adults the world lie to you.
And we are here in Crazy part of the world of adults.
Son of luck. Find out.
It's like an zen koan to work together.
My name is Mark Newgarden.
I am a cartoonist.
I come from Brooklyn, I was born in Brooklyn, I live in Brooklyn
and I am one of them the creator of the Children's Bucket Trash.
One of the initial card trading matters
What I did was they revised the Wacky Package
and this will happen around the year & apos; 83 or
& apos; 84, I think.
And I started doing it
quite early.
I remember, Len and I went to Toys R & Us, Us
at Bay Ridge, one day - up and
down the aisles looking for fat toys to be a travesty.
And um, at that time, Cabbage Patch Kids
very hot commodities and it looks like
like very clear things to put in
So, I did one which I gave the title
The Garbage Pail Kids and that kind of thing
original coining of that term.
And today's problem around this conference table
what we are going to do
Cabbage Patch Kids?
What happened here?
People fight over something that gets hotter
from Santa. Cabbage Patch kids.
Cabbage Patch exits.
Cabbage Patch Kids and become amazing.
And we think maybe we can
get the rights to do the Cabbage Patch Dolls
on the card. You know E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E 00: 15: 57,157> 00: 15: 59,559 their picture with names and all that.
And we think will be a good collection.
And that's how they are asking extraordinary questions,
a strong amount of money for the first Topps
anything above $ 5 I will think, for a license.
And the result is it won't work because they ask for too much money and it's too far in the cycle of its own popularity
Fun culture for is guaranteed guaranteed.
If you can already get
T-shirt, it's not big enough get a small sticker.
We are disappointed and I think Arthur Shorin
then say - Yah, fuck them. Lets do it.
We will make fun of them.
You know, we will parody them like we did with the Wacky Package.
Arthur Shorin has a certain term -
he has terminology for various types of products.
And one of his favorites is the type of product that must be made is a fuck-you product.
He said - let's do you fuck
product from Cabbage Patch Kids.
Stan Hart has worked,
back to the 1950s at Topps and married
Shorin family. Brother at the law of the CEO and Stan is
Author Mad Magazine and did it before
many TV writing programs other things that Broadway plays.
So at that time Stan, in a rather imperial way,
says Well, we will only do a parody
version. We can do your version of fuck.
And then I and Len looked at each other
because it's very often this is vague
the statement from Stan will leave us.
And he's like Stan, what is that?
Uh, alright you know we will only do it
funny version. OK. Uh, and.
We don't know how to do more than one.
I remember that Art or was probably Len.
I think it's Art running back to the meeting
room, the NPD room where
I'm sitting doing something
requesting paintings for Cabbage - Children's Lung Trash
we sat in a pile and he ran back to Arthur
and maybe one hour later back to his room -
Okay, we have to do this series now.
So that's how from my point of view.
And that's Arthur Shorin's Decree now
we have to do it do this series.
And the team - that group that eventually became
Artie Spiegelman and Mark Newgarden, Stan Hart
is this big tower the sound of entering the office.
Hello hello hello.
This big guy works on the Carol Burnett Show
and have it Emmy and all that.
And there is Len Brown as creative director type, you know pulls all these beans together
and various artists who will be involved in it.
And they will get it together and hold a meeting
and discuss where they are,
how they went to develop this parody.
I am not part of it.
I have never been a part of it their temporary GPK team
do that. I maybe you know
write and edit Howard the Duck cards.
God help me at that time.
So at that time the problem is how
do you make a series of these things because there are
there aren't many to build except
This is a generic doll indeed It does have an adoption paper with I t. And one of those things
works well back in the earliest days
when I was in Topps it was something called an ugly sticker.
Before the Trash Pail their Kids
did the Ugly Sticker series.
And the first they are just bad
Basil Wolverton characters that have names
kids should be on them.
So it will be like an creature ugly and it will be called
Fred or Art or Bob or whatever. Except
and it didn't work at first because of them
use the names of people in the Topps office.
So there will be these bad ones
Stickers with names like Maurice.
You know. Nelly or I don't know if Nelly isn't used
returned as name. They are not
likes the name norm, which is owned by an average child.
They are like names for people who are in their 50s.
So it's originally Garbage Pail in the initial initial stage,
Art sent to me rough from a doll,
just a silly doll, that's the word the name is Olga.
So you know could be that
But, Art appears with ideas about
adjective plus names for describe
what is the representative or what is the defilement.
You know, like Leaky Lindsay is a small child
his nose. And that is what works.
That's how they can do thousands of these things for years.
We immediately tried to produce a concept
it will work and now looks like that
it would be nice and clear but at first it wasn't.
So the style is all over the place and then
I keep doing ideas sketch for them every few
month to update collection of ideas.
And they like that begin to develop into pages
where I split into a comic panel that doesn't
connections to each other. And I do the same thing...
I like one, I see where You will go with this person...
So this room, three a quarter of it is a studio.
So Adam Bomb was born correctly here - in this place here?
Yes. And 400 or 500 brothers and sisters.
So in the fall of the year & apos; 84
One day the phone rang. And that is the Art of Spiegelman and him says "Hi this is Art Spiegelman from Topps and,
John, you know we know your work.
Are you interested in doing some Wacky Packages?"
And one of them is a child of trash,
a little rough I thought it was
Mark Newgarden is rude.
And, and a little doll in the box
and which makes it a small tramp
t-shirts and bins and so on.
I do from & apos; 79 around & apos; 84, I do this
fantasy paintings as and comic cover.
And I started...
There is a period several things happen.
There is a gap in my work in.
and I also think I really miss humor.
For doing fantasy art for me,
I almost have to pretend.
In a different way do a humor cartoon.
And I only remember saying I wish I
can get some humor work.
So John sent us in. only sheets and sheets of ideas.
And out of everyone's work.
John is clear the person is there
only there are no questions directly from the bat.
This is like this John. This is John's job.
I started working on it.
And I'm not getting
like six idea sketches I found myself writing.
Looks like these items come into my mind almost these ideas
and think about Little Monster? I will start registering
all monsters. What about body fluids?
I will make a list of words and then I will do some photos.
Now and then, How about about walking dead?
Because I was done recently that year
I have walked dead cover for Twisted Tales.
And I have a little collage in me sketchbook from somewhere
where is that spoof on Ronald Reagan
sitting at the table pressing a button. And I think
Hey, how about a little kid pressing the button?
and in the background let's have an atomic bomb
leave. So I sent them in.
There are a few pauses and
then I get a phone call saying
Hey John we got a job.
You think you can do it 44 paintings in
two months? And is like the end of 1984
and basically I said Yes, I will try.
You know me is a little unsure because
do fantasy art. Everything takes two to four weeks
to finish it painting and this
like real tooth changes.
But John is a person who has meat to make this object look like a Topps product.
The problem with that it must be just as weird
as an ugly sticker, but as sweet as this
Cabbage Patch.
And that's a funny place to hit because if it's really ugly - it's not funny.
So it's trying to get
John to be sweeter and cute while getting uglier and uglier;
it is a complex zone. And finally something,
maybe a lawyer won't be happy to know
uh, if they work to maintain Topps
but at some point I said Can you see this
Damn Cabbage Patch Dolls?
They are far sweeter than anything you have.
It's just that, if you have to, just buy it one of the dolls and I certainly Topps will replace you.
You know, and everything suddenly returns correctly.
Part of one of the things I will do come on Monday and I will get FedEx
and I will open FedEx John.
I remember like taking it
the painting in the first batch and thinking
Geez, this is good.
This is very good.
And only has this feeling
we go to something special
with series.
And then it's a problem _ coming with other jokes because someone doesn't make
series even two does not make a series
if you can come with three
You can come as we prove it with 300.
So I just thought I thought
I have to do a painting a day and... and that means I have to get it
methodically about that's because I think
if I don't have I am very organized this will happen is being careless everywhere.
So I thought, okay, let's break the painting a day.
OK - must do drawing.
Understood. I need to rough color
so I know what it is I did the heck for the effect.
So that's... it's two pieces of hours for pencils and colors.
Then, then... let's say I'm trying to be
humane for myself, So I said OK -
do it, that means the actual painting
it will take four hours.
So, you transfer, do meat in one hour,
do clothes in one hour,
do props in one hour,
do the background in one hour.
And I think I understand! There is a painting a day.
So by knowing where I am go for my rough color
I will have white paper as my white
and just worked way through light to dark.
Then I did it the same for things like
hair and hair clothes and likes characters
usually, sometimes has prop
maybe it's safety pin or maybe it's a bomb,
maybe it's a doll, trash can, gun, milling machine
maybe rolling character down.
I have a deadline for myself and in drawing these things
so if that's the case something where I have to
take a trip - if I have to travel to the library
it's across town I have to look for -
can I afford to pay time to get a reference?
or can I just do it with my clip file or my imagination?
Art will usually call John
And, um, or he was in a conference call
and we like that through this
pictures you know, item by item
for this child bigger nostrils.
Make this child longer ear lobe.
Make sharper fangs.
Like one picture specifically that
like Russell Muscle or whatever he is number 51.
I have done a small muscular man and Art says it's fine. But I mean it's kind of there,
but put the muscle in the muscle.
And other things he will say, you know
in particular exaggerating pieces
exaggerating.
Which, I mean, is great advice and really right
for what we do.
You know the pump - pumps more.
Fantasy art done -
I tried to go for drama and was arrogant in my work there.
And that's when the Trash Pail Kids comes
I still bring that mindset to him.
I think this is a funny little character.
But when I can think of an idea
or a pose that will work for small people I, I will try to go something-
Me, I mean I don't get it to everyone but sometimes you know You only do a few characters I'm here! Already!
I mean, literally, as you know,
lots, lots of fine tuning comments when we joined.
And John is big. I mean, you know
he really will always increase
what we asked to then surpass.
Serial after that series sits across
from Mark Newgarden where we look at each other
unfortunately until one of them will say
Yes you know, One of us will say it
what about the little boy his eyeballs drip out?
What about a child with uh, who is torn apart?
What about you know,
it's like trying to find possible hooks
for one thing or another.
And that's basically full day
sit there and argue
above name without stopping.
I think it is a total balance of ideas the way they bat things back and forth one will
say something else - it feels like a comedy team
actually - Art and Mark.
And now we start the track and at that time it works with what is the back
who can personalize it _ good, like adoption paper
or other types of documents
that you can personalize -
because Topps has a series that doesn't work
the previous way that from the Dopey Diploma
or Loony license - things like that.
The first one regulates your back, as I recall,
Um, Len dug into the archive and found some old
the series Jack Davis has been illustrated it's a kind of license plate and permission and they are
very deliberately a takes off like the beginning
1930s exhibition series-cards
the type you will buy like an arcade.
You put a nickel into the slot
and you will be like, you know, a SIM behind the driver's seat.
That's very, daily necessities
from lowbrow American humor.
Um, So Len is interesting these things. And he said
Now what about this for your back?
And I said, ok, you want me to like
kind of like a riff? And he left. No, this.
And I'm really hand-writing for
first series each back,
makes very, very small changes
where can I I want to try updating
them and make it funny and then sketch
Any illustration might work in terms of character.
And that is the first back series and I think the second series Len trusts me
for, okay, you know, you can write yourself now.
Towards the end Jay Lynch does many things
from the back.
He is um, he has being a Topps contributor
project for years. He is not involved with Children Trash Pails
at all from the start.
Basically because he seems to be working
for the competition which is Cabbage Patch in a series of Cabbage Patch Stickers
for other companies.
So it is considered that he is not um,
it's unethical for him to do
both projects at the same time.
A series will run 44 images and it is based on the sheet
that these cards are printed on, at line 11. And 44 is
always the minimum you want ever wanted to draw. and with
The children's rubbish they want do the minimum because of them
double print. They will have two names for each child.
So in theory, children don't only collect 44 images;
they will collect 88 cards altogether.
And it departs in a big way too,
almost like that, You know, a decade before.
A strange package has been taken dead. Even they are the only ones
the two products that were put in Topps history that I think we have ever
do something like 13 or 14 different series one after
another. I mean, we continue to do it go one. When one series
complete, we immediately start come with material for
the next series because is very popular.
The result is immediately being every child must know about that; Every parent has to censor it. They are there
confiscated in all classrooms over the United States and that
become a true phenomenon like Topps always trying
do, but most of Wacky Visor is not one of the big hits,
but kids rubbish rubbish is, you know.
This is the hottest medium exchange now in the classroom
from Manhattan to Malibu.
Chewing gum card that displays
most strange caricatures that can be imagined.
Luke is warm, Spacy Stacey.
Some are dirty, some are neat.
They are like - beautiful for other children
and sometimes disgusting to me.
They are very disgusting.
They are dirty, that's what I like.
They are cards with odd parody images
Stuffed Cabbage Patch.
Fred is dead, Acne Amy, Baby Barfy.
You get the picture. Children throughout the country,
buy, collect their and exchange it
like a baseball card.
I will exchange you.
Hairy Kerry, for Messy Tessy.
I'm all ready to have Messy Tessy.
Good...
* We are children of trash! * We are children of trash!
* The chorus is repeated again and again *
When I was first discovered The children's bucket trash card
I am actually at our school bus post
actually going to school and I'm sitting in the middle
from the school bus and see these kids
with their knees touching in the hallway
and I like why do they see?
So when we stopped me was kind of making my way
when we stopped
and I noticed that they were actually
go through these cards
and I like what is that?
and immediately when you see them
it's almost like parents don't talk to you as a child. That's soon
like almost adult material for me.
And he sent me this . This is Beth.
I still remember him the name of when I was little.
I really love My Cabbage Patch Kids
same as me Children of Trash.
I see all fans around Kids Patch Cabbage.
And then Trash Pail Kids comes out clearly
making fun of it.
And for me as an six seven years.
That's so funny.
I like it very much because Cabbage Patch Kids is
very sweet and innocent,
and a little bit of pacifier and
the little dog comes with them and rabbit rabbit then you go here
and they are like tearing up
feet from storks,
and missing teeth, and witches,
and devil and it's very funny.
And that might be around that age when I realized
that I didn't do it want to be around
girly sweet things.
I'm not a princess. I want to watch horror movies
and collecting really horrible cards that underestimated my parents.
You know me parents can't know that
I have this Trash Pail Kids because:
A) They strictly forbid having them at home.
And, # 2): I pay for them with their money
that they did not give me.
So I went to bed one night in the middle of the week.
And I fell into a deep sleep dreaming of a dream
10 years old Garbage Children
and Goonies and I gasped awake.
Blinding light crossed my mind.
Bedroom lights on.
My drawer My clothes are scattered everywhere.
And my father is now sitting in
the edge of my bed woke me up.
Brian. Brian. We have to talk.
Where are they? What? Where is it?
Where? Where is the medicine ?
We know. This money has been lost.
My parents. Sure that their 10 years Old man is a drug addict.
Um, on the contrary I submitted a large stack
Trash Pail Kids Card.
I remember growing up
and children my age always trade
baseball cards and their storage in their little binder
in mint condition and I just hated
baseball. I is not superior in sports.
It never spoke to me.
And then I remember clearly in second grade
someone has- I saw the Adam Bomb card
and my name is Adam and suddenly like
everything feels right me and like here is a card
for people like me.
Um. I am not really suitable.
I don't play sports and it's funny.
It's raw; it's rude.
At that age I already had aspirations
being a comedy writer and I like
true universe - Children of Trash.
I finally wrote Topps through one of the address wrappers
and somehow up to anyone At Topps and him - you got a blanket letter back
from Topps- back that day.
And then returns when you reverse it there are three hobbies shops that you can contact
if you want buy and so on
and I wrote all three and Roxanne the only thing that actually responded to my letter.
And this was also issued
original time in 80s for Kids Pail Trash.
They are folders for children, for real children to take to school.
Put some of them working in a folder
and this is not has anything to do with
Trash Children but this is very good.
This is Batman sitting on the toilet.
And this is done by Norm Saunders as a joke in Topps;
it never works into mass production.
But some of us are lucky enough to get one of these cards.
During the time of Waste Children
in the 80s was the busiest time
we've ever had. And I was just when I first heard
about them comes from Mark Macaluso
who's another email order
the dealer at that time and he called and told me about them and I said to him, what's wrong with Topps?
Have they cracked at all
will they put something like this ?
After becoming a teacher,
I think they're pretty heavy
and I don't do it like some things in it.
I think we always try to teach children respect our President.
And here is Rapping Ron
and things like that. But then I started selling it
because I will sell
all of that was out at that time.
Well, especially those want the full set
and we will sort it. We will buy cases and boxes and
sort them and make sure that all variations are in it.
Now when Series 3 happens I don't know until a few moments later
the one they started carrying
other artists like Tom, Tom Bunk
and some other artists that appear
in this book.
I mean, I don't know until they are printed.
To keep John from burning.
And then there is an extended talent hunt to and including some of the main artists really
Tomas Bunk I met when he first came to New York
because he's already from the German wing
from underground comic planets.
And when I met him he was also inspired by the same Crazy comic artist
which inspired me since childhood. We get along swollen.
Yes you know, I'm not a politician.
I have nothing to lose.
You can ask anything.
Hey! Good vision.
Yes, get a good voice.
- Here it is. - Oh yeah, that's cool.
Are you used for reference?
Yes, that's what happened I have it. I have to hide it.
She's from the 80s, then?
Yes she's from the 80s. Isn't that bad? Geez.
So, Art told me if I will do the front too
because I do backs for the first three series
and the fourth one too, and he said, if I want
do fronts? and I like... you know,
I'm not too ambitious. my little.
But I said, Oh I don't know whether I can do that and things.
And uh, yes, you can, You can try and then
I have to do it in style
John Pond which is rather difficult
because he uses acrylic.
And airbrush. And I have to learn airbrush and do it
all finished goods in the initial are rather complicated
because acrylic is also very difficult to work with it dries to darker and I can't like that.
So I panic often and so on.
But then, then it works well.
And then an man named James Warhola.
Like, a, it's good is very good to do.
I'm going to come back to me happy to do it, but this
It's just that, I usually use a lot of networks that work on the network and
Of course I get their to the point where
I will sketch them and send them via fax
the art director and they will give me a go ahead.
And then I went with the last artwork.
My original is always done in oil back in the 80s,
mid 80's, & apos; 86 - & apos; 87. But then I entered
do this in acrylic. And acrylic for a short time
it's easier because they dry faster.
Cat never gets anything.
I have one color sketch that I did for
- for that one with that sort of
a takeoff at World War II Posters.
My name is James Warhola. I live here in New York
New York City and I work art, I'm a painter and I have a broad history in the field of illustration.
I guess I hit all the angles from the field and I guess
You could say, one of the low points is Pail Trash Kids.
Well... I spoke with Art and Mark and I had to meet them and they show me what the project is is and it must be done by doing this dirty,
a disgusting garbage picture the Pail Kid Card they called.
And I think wow
it's rather interesting. But on my way back from Topps
I thought to myself I would never do these things.
I can't deal with that reality that I come from,
You know doing some of the best writers in
fields of science fiction like Heinlein and Asimov
and William Gibson and I will do the Kid's Waste Pail card.
I think it's impossible. I see, I told them that I would think about it
and I left the factory in Brooklyn
I took long subway and me
said "Yes, this is crazy. I don't think I can do it."
You know, and then I look down on my shoes
and I have chewing gum my shoes and I say
Geez, I even had gum on my shoes when I was there Well in those days all deadlines were yesterday
therefore must be done very quickly therefore is just such a hype.
So Topps wants to discard one series
after the others to the market.
In this case series quality,
in some ways I feel like in some aspects that they have
better when they leave throughout. In several aspects,
they lost something, they became a little more busy,
a little sort of from more self-reflexive,
a little less iconic
from the first few series.
I can't wrap me head around how you get
do like Tom Bunk and come with all these items.
He is very generous with the details.
And I thought, Oh, oh, it's me
try to keep simple things
and, and all that and I guess -
I don't have to, but then I will feel lazy when I
see the picture. Oh shit.
So he will bring these cards and hold a big meeting
with Arthur Shorin and Arthur Shorin
is the CEO of Topps. For a corporate man
him... he really has good humor.
I have worked for many other corporate people
what I want A sense of humor Arthur Shorin.
Who... really took an Arthur Shorin
to be able to say not only - Let's do this
fuck-you product. But yes I think it's funny to see that child
blowing his brain.
Show more like that.
No Arthur's own idea
it's always that good. He always says
"Put it in your pants. cute pants."
And it's like "They really don't."
But we tried to enter
underpants for Arthur occasionally.
We always make extra cards.
Some of our us types
knowing that might never be printed
but we know what happened.
And sometimes we push a little envelope
and sometimes we were surprised that
Arthur said "Great". And sometimes Arthur says "Impossible".
There is one with a little girl
pushed from the diving board into the pool
in a wheelchair that did not make the last cut.
There is a middle finger card, as I recall.
There is a number of cards that are fair for whatever reason, never made it into the mix.
But that's something that we're kind of,
that we always know that we will have that partner
we will get "" no "at, so we will always
keep extra pairs in play
to sort compensate for that.
Sometimes Art will say
Oh, we met my place on Canal Street.
So, instead of going to Brooklyn
we will have, hold a meeting in his apartment on Canal Street
and I will take me things here and there
Mark and Art will sort of go art instead
meeting in Brooklyn at the Topps factory.
So that's how changes are good.
But uh, it's me must see some
Art Spiegelman the work set aside from
Bubble topps gum really
fantastic since he did RAW magazine at that time
with his wife.
Francois is there and I was introduced to the idea
he did MAUS in his apartment.
He works on it while he is
gave us GPK work and I never realized it
will become so historically important.
My Pulitzer Prize won a graphic novel
about the Holocaust. Who owns...
Of course I am grateful for what the book became,
but it's very immersive and deep, difficult
the project for me when I was still in the middle.
One of the real irony though, is as Maus
number one is about being published by Pantheon Books
who likes every other publisher in
New York and New England refused as an impossible concept.
This is a comic for adults and it's about
Holocaust and it uses cat and mouse. Thank you.
You know, It doesn't get anywhere.
So it was rejected by everyone including
The Pantheon book finally takes it for a while
shipping via art director who is friends with me
Luis Fealy who designed - is their top book designer in New York current publication.
But one is that thing fears about that will go out into the world
what I have done Trash Children.
They said, "You know how to do it it's hard to forget that idea
that this is serious book about the Holocaust
using cats and mice?
This is really an impossible task.
If we also have to do it, explain what you are doing this thing which... is, is angry
editorial columnists, parents, and educators, and psychiatrists all of our Americans are destined.
That's what suddenly
it will become Trash Pail well and it's over.
So many young people have become very obsessed the card has been banned by some people school principle from West to East Coast.
- Just say - If you have it well, save it they go home, Monday morning I don't
want to see them at school.
You can't even play with breaks.
What do you think to just sit there?
I mean, really.
I think almost immediately Garbage Pail Kids is out,
it was criticized by educators, _ parents, psychiatrists, and
likes and has some very negative
editorial column about how dangerous today is
young man. And that put it on the map.
When I was in time in the '80s
parents very upset about that.
And I think that only happens
the beginning, where is family life
changed where - when you saw
a child with an knife or a gun like that
Look at it just for fun. Children don't do that.
But then around the mid eighties these things came true.
Instead of just something made fun of, you know cupie doll with a knife
or something like that is not funny anymore when you see an actual child maybe
using a knife or gun, which is going on during the 80s.
This is one from 1987,
Acne Amy -Connect Zits.
And find out what Acne is found to eliminate it acne problems forever. And if you connect zits
You found that revolver aimed at the temple.
So that's how it is.
For 12 years the child is very cute and dangerous. So is good. Still funny today.
We are doing this transgressive series and the child you know hits Sign. Children love it.
Parents hate it. That's where we want to be.
We are making Topps things
children buy with their own money.
I want 2 Children Trash Buckets.
We don't make things for librarians;
We don't make things for parents;
We are making things for the child.
So that, you know, it feels like we succeeded.
Because children are children and they just want to do it,
to see things parents say they shouldn't.
body fluids
and all warts and snot.
everything parents say You shouldn't do it and
then you see it there and it's very interesting.
This is Germany.
War of Bubble Gum.
Torture doesn't sell wherever you go.
And, but they are banned and they are not.
That's the year of & apos; 88.
Oh, you go to jail if you get caught with them?
No, but parents too, too strong.
How do you feel about that ? Are you proud of that?
I'm proud of anything opposed to all these parents-
all these people. And this is very funny.
This German newspaper and this person is against this
Jugendschutzer means He is the protector of young people.
And see how it looks!
He looks like Child Trash Trash!
He does look like Trash Pail Kids, one with glasses.
First I think that Children can buy it themselves.
That's cheap. Something is like - I don't think much
about that. But when I went to search
work for children illustration and I show it
Children Trash Trash - is really wrong
to show them because
children's books are made for parents. And this is here
made for children. And because of that
cheap; It is like restricted territory.
And that's parents and schools
and all... people who are sort of limiting children
in their freedom, they all oppose it.
So it works even better, you know.
I have goodness good luck having relatives,
who also is interested in art and that's how
I think I became interested in doing art and
it's my uncle Andy, who's Andy Warhol.
And he always is on the cutting edge
everything. But I remember when I started doing
GPK in like & apos; 86 - I showed it . And he really is
fascinated by the idea and he rather suggested
that I have to do these paintings very big.
Not as children's art or card art but
do them as big paintings.
He saw them as anti pop,
anti-popular type, against the community in several ways.
We bring rival culture
a group younger than children. But of course
it is a candy counter.
We have some things here like
garbage Pail Bag Kids bop.
That's very heavy.
Not sure what this character is.
This is some garbage Pail Kids sticks to the picture.
Phone calls we get during Children Trash Trash
craze drove us crazy because of us
can't eat without the phone ringing.
In the middle of the night the phone will ring
because people live throughout the country
and it's continuous
and it's difficult.
You know the hardest thing in Kid's Trash
thing to collect my intent outside
original art of course
is Bukimi Kun, which is Japanese.
And I like that even today and
age of eBay and Internet and
everything happened it's still difficult to find something.
Like these things You can't find it.
You know because in Japan they
does not have Cabbage Patch Kids.
So when they try to let go
Bukimi Kun doesn't work sense to those they have
nothing can be compared to him.
So yes all foreign goods all these things are very hard to find.
I really enjoy searching.
You know, they're so weird!
Like, look at this men hold these titties.
Yes. And now we enter the green border.
Green with soccer balls, yes, being an Italian, yeah...
You know and it's very crazy...
they put flags and balls on each.
I really tried to get Trash Pail Kids
from all over the world. And that is very difficult.
And one place I really want them to be is Israel.
And I remember talking to one
from people at Topps, Bill O & apos; Connor. And say, I have
to try to get this, they won't do it send to me because you won't let them
import them into USA. What can you do for me?
He said there was nothing he could do I said well then I will only have
go there and get them yourself.
I gather fun things around the world.
Let's get closer see North America,
Canada, France Canadian album.
Colombia, Brazil is
all completed albums and seal packages.
There are several packs there.
Argentina, but all albums are finished.
Germany, Belgium test set wrappers.
Still needs Netherlands and Germany,
variation of UK set because I am in the UK.
Set France, Spanish set
with the correct good double package.
You know that is funny-even today
if you go FedEx website
You cannot send Junk Children
to Mexico because of the description
children and condescending situations.
So basically you can't send turtle turtles,
marijuana, or Rubbish Children
to Mexico, which is very good.
So fast is a fad and a phenomenon.
It has started making lots of money for Topps
and this when I arrived My lesson is in etymology.
Bonus is unconscious.
Every vice president at Topps, I am not one of them,
to be really one million dollar bonus that year
for how well Topps is done. And the factors he made
That topps is a lot of money that year is not ongoing
perennials from baseball cards or gum
that came out year after year...
But the Pail Kids trash has become this giant cash cow.
Like me and several others
successfully dropped this dinosaur.
It's eaten for the last piece
by people who have has nothing to do with Trash
Pail Kids who work on baseball cards
or God knows what else.
But at least a few pieces have been thrown at us.
At that time I was rather dissatisfied.
Artists might even get a small bonus
but I remember getting I thought it was
$ 25,000 or maybe that even a $ 50,000 bonus
which for me is all money in the world.
But when I heard about millions
bonus dollars that already exist faint, I understand
the word root bonus is bone.
I don't remember specifically what series we are working on.
That's good into it maybe at half point.
I know that I walked to the office one day and everything I have doing it just goes away.
And I think there is the discovery process,
and beautiful many things
On my desk is considered an invention.
So everything my sketch stack
returns to series one disappears.
And that's how I heard it. Topps were sued by OAA,
Original Appalachian Art
who is Person Cabbage Patch.
This is dirty vs. cuddly,
people get sick vs. sweet ones.
That is an all-out battle for the hearts and minds of children.
What might happen starts as a joke,
now $ 30 million lawsuit.
Some are legal problems that are not clean
in the Topps bubble gum world, who said that
comic books are the lowest form of literature but by their Lord is literature.
Chewing gum card is not right
literature even because you sell premiums.
You sell something that is sold with gum
and added value for gum,
but not right editorial form
because it is clear First Amendment
designed not for stickers and bubblegum cards but
for opinions disagree in the form of a newspaper.
And as a result appears against a different body
the law starts to tighten
rope around Topps from at that time even
Strange packages come out. Because now, it looks like
it's clear in the world where companies are people too.
More than people.
But at that time there was something more important from the First Amendment which is a product disparagement.
Xavier Roberts has submitted a copyright
according to chewing gum.
I mean that it doesn't take my product my creation, and tarnish it.
And that's true where I came from.
Earlier in working on series 1,
I push, not push - I just do that first some designs as generic looking for small dolls
because I think you can't make it
the item looks like design copyright or trademark from
other companies. This asks for a problem;
This asks for a suit or something.
But they continued to do it encouraged me to make it
looks more like, like Cabbage Patch.
You know and, and uh, is what I mean, but
I can see it It's like a double-edged sword.
That makes more interesting and more -
it underlines it the title becomes parody
more by making the design visible
more like Cabbage Patch. But I saw it coming.
Looks like it's legal parody
back, you know back in that period
much harder
because we aren't even allowed
to the parody of Cyndi Lauper in certain series.
We did the series. Hollywood zombies where we are clear parody
famous image actor and actress.
And back in the 80s and 70s we were told you couldn't
do that. So everything looks like they were much harder at that time.
I never liked that fact that we can't do parodies.
I mean, Mad for years and I feel us must have the same thing the freedom that Mad Magazine has.
We have published artwork
and humor you know and why, why Mad can do this
this and we can't? And then we were told
both Mad is a publication and
there are different legal parodies.
What has must be done by undermining
the value of a trademark. And it's fake
the idea of the right to parody.
But when Wacky Packages come out
we will often get the stop and stop command Kellogg Cereal or Pepsi Cola.
And we have to stop. Because we were really told
parodying trademarks is more serious than
parody an idea or concept.
We are sued, you know...
with what we see being an unfriendly court. This is a
Georgia company. And the trial will be held in Georgia.
In that setting we have to submit all our initial files to the enemy camp. Finally I have to go to Georgia
to give a deposition for a lawyer for Cabbage Patch.
And I is really strung about it.
I'm not looking forward to it.
Just afraid I would say it was something wrong. Even though it's true
but get Topps at some problems are worse than
they seem to be going to being right then.
Become friends Representing Cabbage Patch Kids
they keep asking questions and they have a court
reporters type out the transcript
from... from the conversation.
John will give up rough sketches to us
then we will do it send it back to finish
painting. And there are some note that someone wrote
make more, see more like, you know - Cabbage Patch.
And then they dig through my paper and,
of course, they found something
which says it makes them look like the Cabbage Patch Dolls.
And they think, Ah - we have him!
We feel it might be like a smoking gun.
We are waiting to go before the judge for this case.
So we heard different things that delayed it
and I'm sure this isn't true, but it sounds like
the judge must get a haircut today so you have to
take leave. Or something has happened so you know.
Then after at at least a week there we hear
Oh, well is settled out of court.
So, friend can go home now.
There are several negotiations that take place between
both parties after that that. And they make
settlement. Topps finally pays for the right one
to spoof the Series Cabbage Patch.
We agree to pay royalty to the Cabbage Patch
people for all previous series we did it. And then forward,
we will pay royalties.
Plus, we have to make changes where it can't looks pretty much
like Patch the original Cabbage.
We have to change it to look a little different.
I think they pay until it's sick, but it doesn't hurt
enough to stop us from going forward.
That leads to finally having the logo being changed
for Children Garbage Trash and small arc letters
changed to banner and some other changes in
Physiognomy of children to be made is what is now becoming
phenomenon in itself.
I think Tom compiled a model -some Tom Bunk sheets,
You know, some designs that show
new characters. They have to be hard plastic instead of soft cloth dolls and have
different numbers fingers and must
has a small jug ear.
That proportion is slightly different.
They will have it random plastic cracks
in it to be made, everyone - make it very clear
they are difficult sculpture dolls.
So I just think about this won't be funny.
I don't like it I don't want to paint badly doll. I mean it sounds funny because of us
trying makes them dirty.
But I want them to see it, I want them to be real
interesting and fun whatever negativity is
they may have to be done or found.
I don't like putting cracks
in chunka joint - you know.
But only that is the agreement
maybe. I feel it might be Topps
may agree too much as far as
changed GPK display.
I don't know how to do it much we finally got
do with that design how many series we did
but we do fair number of designs.
They are still selling. They always sell quite a lot
for Arthur to enter the room and say
"Yes we go to do something else."
And I think we finally did 15 or 16 series.
The change is smooth but enough for
type, to kill the whole concept I thought.
* If your teacher says you are ugly *
* and send your to the principal *
* You can become a Kid's Trash! *
* If your parents say you dress like *
* You should be in the carnival * We hear that there will be a movie.
Of course, we want to get involved creatively involved and we were told we didn't go
being is creatively involved.
Hi we generation Pepsi!
We met Rod Amateau who is the producer.
As I recall, we had a meeting in Arthur's office One day where he asked us a lot
general questions about Children Trash.
It doesn't really look, He doesn't seem to really
understand what that is.
But he knows they are hot.
And I think he has an contract to fulfill this
will be the project.
So, I think we are kind of showing the things we do.
He will ask some are very unclear general questions about like this character
or that character. But, that, basically
someone who is very non-communicative meets as I remember.
But that's what happened the worst film ever made.
And Rod Amateau I thinks I have admitted that
the reason he wrote it that he has a contract
to write for sure number of films
and this, you know, things that will end his life
the contract he wanted to do and that's why he did it.
Well, I'm working quite regularly on the show
called The Facts Of Life and has a career,
if you want. And that is summer and so on
the film came I was able to audition
to lead.
And I'm super- excited because
there was so much attention on the card at that time
and I know it will be very popular
and a big opportunity and I got the appropriate part
bills for Dodger characters.
Little do I know that it will end enough
the film.
I trust one of those
easy to remember quotes from critics are
they call it "a stunningly inappropriate and really
disgraceful film" - that is - which is it. "
And I don't really remember the audition
but I'm happy that I got the role of Valerie Vomit
compared to some from other characters
because I can't stand body functions.
I don't like them to talk about. When I was called for my role to be called by a friend, I believed it was Phil Fondacaro. He said he needed to, uh... uh the production
= = looking for six to seven small people to play
several characters. And that is the Children of Trash Trash.
When I arrived cast for character
we went to Atlantic Entertainment
and meet John Buechler and Rod
and they like that looked at us and said
You are this character. You are this character.
I don't remember the right casting process
but I'm honored to play Windy Winston.
That's a fun character.
In fact, I brought a little of my New Orleans taste some R & B, some Jazz, and some attitudes that you know.
And that's how I developed character.
I like the cultural table instead
from Cabbage Patch Kids.
When is your size you,
You don't can play a neighbor.
You don't understand to play the lead.
Very, I don't know why. His is only one of them
things... It will happen good if that happens.
But we understand to play some very
colorful characters.
Like Ali Gator - I'm green. As a cheek - I'm brown.
So I'm thinking which characters are different
what he will do, maybe he comes from like
New York. A little from deng, with...
They say is not that type of character.
Get down a a little more like dat -
little down and inside.
So I started doing sounds like that.
That's how I really started to get
sound. A man who is a little tough.
Ooh, I spit all over the place.
Actually it's only my fourth or fifth audition in Hollywood.
I heard Garbage Rubbish or
Doll Cabbage Patch.
But I was 22 years old when I auditioned for this.
And all the items are good in a different world so far
because I'm worried. I don't know what that is
- I don't know.
So the direction of my fart is actually body movement
or like like working, doing it
And like finally want whohaaa.
Ahhh, uh, Aaah.
Here it is - one more. Ahhhh....
And I will drop people.
You know - they like it - to be like - God! It smells.
I get along with the director,
Rod Amateau, the late Rod Amateau.
And that's where he's the leader with all these crazy people,
little men wear this
looks ridiculous The type of paper mache from the head.
And he's like, you know, I don't have to do this film
You know... it doesn't have my contract to do it...
Oh that, that's interesting. It inspires,
very confident statement of the building.
And of course the movie has finally become very sad.
but I think it has become something from
cult film above years and some people like it.
As far as the films I remember coming in.
heaps like, snapshots of some are very rough maybe
armatures for costumes and such.
Of course, you know, us, someone, Arthur
or anyone just approves anything
and they do not request our special opinion.
I know makeup people will take longer
to sculpt head and then
different things because of Topps
will come and say "no, you can't do it this way
because that looks too similar
Cabbage Patch Kid."
And they will do it must change that.
So the art is very difficult to try
to make a head and
things like that from different characters.
Let's talk about the vomit.
Luckily I'm not in the head when vomiting occurs.
It's like a projectile - it's a head -
a different head with an enlarged mouth.
That's like the vomiting device I didn't
know what it is that pushes out vomit.
But that is enough, very disgusting.
I went to premiere in Times Square.
I am one of the three people in the audience and there is a man living in the second row
and it is the premiere of the Garbage Pail Kids film.
Do you know what that is? It's so amazing?
Part of that, I think comes from being horrible
execution of a bad idea.
You know, that's the strength of the cards is on the card.
You know, that is every individual - artwork.
That's it strength of things.
That's why they are sold.
That's why people like it - the idea behind artwork.
And to try to put it in a movie,
that's just, it didn't work and it was a disaster of failure
in an effort to do it.
That is very interesting
about Waste Pail Kids Film is,
as a writer now
and producer, someone who made the family film.
In fact they made the film
very amazing because it's conflicting
everything you want to do in a family movie.
On the one hand, it's like one of them the films you see back
- Mac and I - nothing's certain
movies where you like it's really weird
the period in the 80s where you could get away with doing things.
And the filmmakers go for that in a very strange way
and they are committed and we go with this
really weird a family cinema.
That I don't think there will ever be being like that again.
You know backwards is a strong thing.
So at that time I had no idea.
I think I made Goonies.
Well, popularity Garbage Child Trash goes to CBS
want air to be produced
Kid's Rubbish cartoon on Saturday morning.
Americans Family Association
don't like that sound.
You know, here is this a dirty card
children fart and explode and kill each other.
This is terrible for children.
Children will not like this. So of course
They started to write letters and get out there you know.
Boycott CBS. Boycotting their sponsors!
Boycott advertisers!
And this, you know fear of bullshit from CBS.
And for the first time in their history was completely canceled a show that they have produced,
which is ready to roll.
Only because of from public protest
so it's never shown, isn't here in the US
I'm very specific Remember being in a meeting
where Stan Hart announced
to us "It will never be aired."
And he's dead right.
Six months, a year later,
it gets to the point is listed on the TV Guide
but when it's Saturday morning comes and
children are set for the event, it's not there
and it never aired.
So, Stan must have tracks in that one.
Interestingly enough, John K,
Ren and Stimpy's fame, . You know, before he had
do that, do some presentation material
for that version of Kid's Trash
which cartoon, God will do it amazing! You know, so, oh well.
We continue to do it. In progress, until series 16
and I don't know until after that the work is done on the 16th series
that - hey, they won't publish it.
And the thing I heard was just that sale
it's quite low they don't want to do it.
That is the story that I got at that time.
Then suddenly stops.
And that's at the end of 88.
Another person works at Topps
is a gentleman by the name Len Brown who used to be
my mentor at the time.
He is one of them the person who revoked me
obscurity and said Hey, why not you,
You have to do more card sets.
Next things you know,
we keep saying what we want to return a portion of the old
brand. That should be Bad stickers?
Should it be a Wacky Package?
Which do we have to do?
And... we started and, well let's bring it back
Trash Children. Let's bring it, it's time.
And a lot of executives at that time
sensitive to claims.
And because that we are very
sensitive about how we will return
to do Trash Children.
and where are the artists?
It's almost... we have to find everyone again.
So the idea is to do
All new series Children Trash.
Don't wait, do they call it "All New"?
Yes, fine. Everything is new - That's the right title.
And that is basically will take
16 unpublished series. And then they want it
to add, I guess it's six paintings per artist for
myself and Tom Bunk to do a new job.
And Jay Lynch provides some very, very
wise, it's clear picture and he's amazing
to get an idea from.
And when we restart the engine for this beautiful car
that's the name Trash Children,
20 years later or whatever it is.
We still have the same card, the same rules and all that.
We know what we have to do something different.
And it took us a while. I AM ME....
After you start the art directs and edits Trash
Pail Kids you really appreciate what they do in the original series.
And I actually used to spread a lot into the well
from the old timer.
Call them, "Art, will you do it? And... Jay
Lynch, what will you do? Len Brown, what will you do?"
I think there was surprised after doing work
that they print, print differently.
Technology has changed whatever it is is like - 20 years
from, from & apos; 84 to 2003 there. And I think, oh this
is glossy paper and colors become more detailed.
And it's like we have to do it get that kind of thing.
We are currently doing Waste Children,
second series and I don't like some artists
we are recruiting that I was forced to rent.
That... and it turns out it's not that I don't like them
I just don't think so they are right for this series.
So I say you know what I think I can paint
as good or better than they and I go
but I'm not a painter. I am not a good painter.
I don't - I don't think I am good.
So I made a work,
Didn't say that's from me,
and it's approved and all that.
And then I said Hey, that's...
I really painted it, I drew it.
And now is Armed Arnie.
Like that Armed Arnie came.
And but at least it shows the I want to show them like,
Hey I'm not a good painter and
if we employ this to make people better than me.
And that's when we get Brent.
After college, I went bankrupt so I moved with me actual brother and first
live in the basement.
I already got many refusal letters
from different comic book companies.
And, um, but I got
Permanent work to do is feasible for a while.
So I finally sent it to Jeff
and he sent me an email and then
asks if I want to try and paint a child for trash.
And that is Jay Lynch concept. That's really
stressed at that time.
I seem to feel like I finally made it or something This is Pat of Gold here.
This one is Leafy Larry.
Oh, my goodness, I can't remember this name.
I think this is a Ralph Roll-up.
That's what this is - Ralph Roll-up.
Jeff said, "Hey, you know...
we are looking for GPK artist and also
Artist Package Strange. do you think
this is something that you will be interested in?"
And you know, inside me just jumped with joy.
I have to have a poker face because
again I collected GPK and Wacky Package as children.
And at that time I don't even know
that Children Trash Trash has returned, you know,
I only think about it - only in the 80s.
My first set worked in 2005.
But definitely remember drawing my own garbage bucket child
and show it for my mother - things like that
and try to fool it that they are Real Pail Trash Kids.
So I remember that.
And I always remember bringing them around with me in large stacks like rubber band stacks
cards and always just see them everywhere
I left and brought them with me.
And they gave me a very cool character:
Split Kit, which is one of the original designs,
who is like a normal child and then just put half and him
like this little teenage bastard.
I think he has an actual gun.
It's funny because we can't paint weapons anymore.
When we get it take a classic character
and enter them modern situation that I enjoy.
Because of that right then
back like OK, this is what I grew up together.
I am now really painting The Children of the Trash I saw.
Every time someone knows I am an Garbage Pail Kids artist
the first thing they say is "You have the coolest job ever."
So it's exciting.
And I have been asked to go to my son's school to talk with children and I have they come with them themselves The Idea of a Funny Package and the ideas of the Trash Pail Kid.
And my son, and my son... he has his friends coming
and they ask me
to do Trash Pail Kids for them.
So that's pretty cool
all children around the environment,
always try to come there and give
my idea or get their name there
or try do something with it.
Topps is one of the few places
I work at your place actually, physically will paint
something. Most of the companies I have worked for what they want
like digital, is something digital in color.
It's very rare for to actually do
actual painting like actual airbrushing.
Like physical clogs it up.
I like wearing a respirator
so you don't breathe smoke.
This is far different from sitting on your computer.
So, my mother had died when I was 10 years old
cancer and me dad raised three sons:
myself, two brothers.
I mean I am 10 years old
and Trash Trash Children came out in 1985
and that's it. I like that.
And yes, I Father is very accepting.
He was just, all this time when we were happy
and we take care of ourselves.
That's good for him. And that's good for us.
So, and it's made we get along a little -
between our time is watching professional
wrestling and hit each other, so.
What's great about Children Trash,
each artist has what kind of sensitivity
the humor they put into it. And that's really, when the viewer
see it, there are many of these artists interpretations of
vomiting. Because you can come with that joke
from, you know, some children jump from the roof,
or whatever, but that the way the artist draws it
and make it where it's not dangerous,
it's funny and he is sensitive to him.
I think that's what people come out of.
And they see it and they have a split
the second when they read it,
they have little contact with the artist who drew it,
and the artist interpretation of the event.
You know, that's the performance
and the artist never heard applause.
But I think I heard it Chuckles here and there
worth the price of the entrance ticket.
Blanche, go down.
After the high school I moved to
New York to enter school Visual Arts in Manhattan.
I majored in cartoon which is a real department,
believe it or not. We have lots of professors is in DC Comics.
They write and illustrate for DC, Mad Magazine.
So we were trained by many of them
in basic storytelling too.
How to tell a story, how to produce a theme and
so it seems we like that trained as a writer too.
Which helps to do the the Garbage Pail Kids now
because it's like, half of it writes.
We have to write a concept or joke.
You know not coming Only you know doing art
but come with an idea.
I still collect the children's writing Children say, "I bought this and my father and..."
and I like children's letters because I'm like happy kids
bought it because I remember when I was a kid and it meant a lot
a lot for me buy these items.
So when I heard from the kids were kind of really good.
I saw my first Rubbish card Kid
in 2012 at Target. I'm shopping at Target.
And then I saw this pack of cards and I said.
"What is that, ma'am?" And my mother said,
"They are Trash Pail Kids; they are dirty cards.
But, do you want to?"
I said yes. " I am very excited. I can't wait.
So I open it in the car and I think
they are the best thing ever.
I know about them,
I entered them, and I don't know there
is an old series. So I saw on YouTube
and I studied there is an older series.
So there are a lot of neat GPK websites out there.
When I came with GPKCustoms
there is already already Harun site
GPK World which I actually used to find artists.
There is a GPK Underground which is an extraordinary forum
where you can meet other people
whom is interested in collecting
and trade Children Trash.
So there are so many different nuanced groups that you can find
from various aspects GPK toys
or Cheap Toys or pop-up toys.
It seems like that is something for everyone love GPK as children.
And I found this that amazing website
has been documented each.
And that's when I saw e-bay and realized them
actually very valuable now.
That's a lot of people not saving their cards
so pure conditions like I have.
Yes you know the cards themselves now there are many values too. I mean that
amazing what happened, for find the closed box from series one,
first it is very difficult looking. And if you do it, it can
bring from anywhere three to five thousand dollars.
As far as prices go up in the original series box,
they are not there a lot. So the price must go up.
Each card is rated, which of course is the type
newer things.
People buy cards and then they get them incapsulated and rated by third-party authenticators.
And if that returns 9 or 10 on
scale 1 to 10, 10 medium - mint gem.
Cards like Nasty Nick, 1A, can be $ 3000.
I do other genres besides Trash Pail Kids.
I do Marvel items. I'm also working on another
brand for Topps, Mars attack as an artist.
And there's nothing
which approaches secondary market
sketch cards or original art when heading to Wacky
and Trash Item Pail Kids.
The original series - art applies to thousands of people.
Original art these magnificent cards
or you only know 5 "by 7"
which is kind of interesting that they are not
much bigger than the card itself.
They are around 2. When do you see them directly.
They are so full of color and technique
and all of them are used to make these images.
This is very impressive.
I was impressed by myself with the price they earned.
Of course, the first series painting can go anywhere
You know 20 to 30 thousand dollars are dependent who or what it is. which card is that
represents and is used for.
The second series You start to see
You know going somewhere in the range of $ 15,000
Another $ 20,000 range depends on which card.
And the third series, is at 10
You know $ 10 to $ 15,000.
So, you really see
You know the heavy duty action on these things
as an artwork is not only that which can be billed
but people are looking for doing it in a different way.
Now, Adam Bomb, the most iconic of all Children Trash Trash is clear. I think
is the Mona Lisa of art card trading. Right?
I mean, you think about it, When you think about,
pop in the 1980s and culture in general,
that's one of them iconic images.
There are no questions about that.
So, you know if I am asked judge the Bom Adam painting,
I will see it very much light that is different from
other paintings. And I've given that a lot of thought and you
know if someone has it and want to confirm it,
I will not insure it for anything less than
a quarter of a million dollars at this point.
Well that's cool things about being a GPK
artist is we get this
this fan commission and for some fans
You know, money is not an object.
You know, they will be willing and ready to pay for whatever commission they want.
Hey Joe!
James! How are you?
Nice to meet you personally. Come in!
Right! Thank you buddy.
So some of the artists I originally found
are those people only have a website.
So Brent Engstrom and Tom Bunk are part of
the first artist I was originally assigned.
Initially it started is quite simple single character and then I realized that
the thing I think everyone wants at some point.
is having rubbish from children's waste self. And I understand a painting from my whole family as a child of rubbish bins. And then from that I
like wow you can do more when you have a full painting
from these small cards.
And I started thinking what I wanted to see.
I want to see everything Ghostbusters!
Well you only want they all stand up?
They are like that Must do something.
So what will they do?
So I started imagine these sketches.
My wife is very supportive of my collection of rubbish bins but he is not a big fan.
But my two children love Trash Pail Kids.
And do you like to draw or make your own garbage bin ?
Well, I have an idea in my head.
I have got the name:
Stapled Stan and him like being clamped everywhere.
His mouth is clamped together.
You know how some Rubbish rubbish kids have like
their tongues sticking out?
His tongue is like being clamped.
Hands, fingers pinned together, all of them clamped.
He's all pinned together!
Rubbish Pail Kids is a joke.
Look - cow jumps over
milk shed the moon.
They are very funny to me. They are very deceptive.
This is too much baby headed.
When I first got the Trash Pail Kids, shortly after that I was actually diagnosed
with non- cancer of Burkitt Hodgkin's lymphoma.
And while I have the first series I don't have
other sets because I in and out of the hospital.
And my mother knew that they would be a big thing.
So he bought me more cards.
Like there is a small child there without hair
and looks sick and children don't know
if you can't catch cancer or not.
They only see - someone's sick
and run away.
But I have these cards everyone really wants it
so they were willing to approach me because they knew
that, hey if you want sale and purchase Nasty Nick
there is the only man who
will have it so you better go
and see what you can get.
So, that's the way it is, that I don't feel shunned and
or an outcast at all. I actually feel like
people want to be near me.
I will never, never sell this card.
This is part of my childhood.
This is what makes this whole business
collecting happens, you know, is that attachment
for things that you have, things that you lose,
the things you never, but want
and now you can. That's all about this.
So yes, I have this .
And I like WOW this is sensational
artwork, the level artwork for me is,
that's what really made me.
I do not know if there is nothing
like Trash Trash Children in the 80s!
30 years later, is they talking about Willow?
Well, they talked about Garbage Trash!
That's why the live actors are for- I'll get it
teary eyes - people appreciate their work.
It's just cherry icing on the cake!
Thank you, friends!
But I really spent some time in the care center
in this beginning decade. That's good because
I work hard and it's good. Part of care
is that you go to - You see a psychologist
three times a week. And that's actually
very, very helpful. That's part of rehabilitation a facility where we talked to a psychologist and one day,
I took clips from YouTube from Children Trash to
show to a psychologist. And I swear to them this
close to offering me a drink.
I think one of those things things kids do
losing today. There is so much access
information doesn't really exist that phase in their lives where
they can explore it, kind of teenager
that Kids Pail Trash lets you explore.
Where sure it is maybe not too
what your parents want but not terrible.
Just a little little dirt. It's not dirty.
But my father said I am the patron saint
from the 80s and Children Trash.
So I keep trying continuously and continuously
to make more people like it these cards because I think
more people have to have it.
GPK has two things that I feel that kind of shapes the brand.
This is dirty humor. And then there is also
social comments. And I think of those two things,
You will always have dirty people something. And then you always like that will have people who like
art that you know social comments are represented in art.
I always feel it must be funny.
If you make cool items you have to make it funny.
So to maintain this balance and balance
I think that's what is very good about it.
That... and we can even more than that.
Because of me... I keep going.
You always have to question the whole establishment.
This is this establishment you know.
If you don't question it, You will soon get Adolf Hitler.
It really has independent life after
giant Success of Cabbage Patch,
Garbage Trash becomes a giant success yourself.
It gets its wings as a separate phenomenon.
Howard the Duck doesn't work, but I'm happy something works well for Topps.
It tastes good. I'm a little bit confused about that
obsessive that some of these people about series.
I mean, we are making this for the mass market.
We don't make them for collectors. We have
does not make them for fanatics. We don't make
they are to complete. We make it for children.
And I think a little is missing now.
This is more than that sort of a fan focus.
This is narrower than broadcasting.
As an art director for Children Trash,
part of it is a psychiatrist . Every artist
have their own problems, their own dynamics and
I took over such a brand. It has history like that.
Able to speak with the original artist
I grew up and was admired and found out how great they were
and also they helped teach I became a good editor.
I will never forget it. I consider John Pound
like a father to me. And if I'm a little teary
eyed, excuse me. But he... without him I have never been able to do it. So, thank you, John.
I just like doing it works and I feel proud of it
and love it they have a place in pop music
cultural arena and on the market.
And that's me has worked in print media.
And that's true funny things and silly things.
I'm proud to be silly!
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I started hearing back in the 1980s
that the trading card is no longer a factor with the children they are moved to video games, computers,
all kinds of other things, and they don't care
collect more cardboard pieces.
The turn of the century we have Pokemon and Yugioh
and all kinds of products that make it big time on trading cards.
So I still say the trading card will always be with us.
This is his You must match
successful in trading cards and children will want it.
It's cheap entertainment. Not much costs.
And children like
a stack of trading cards something they like.
So I am, I think is going forward in the future.
Garbage Children can be around 20 years
starting now with the 50th, silver birthday comes.
If you make a statue a picture of someone might worship it as a false god. Become the role of
cartoonists insinuating things and taking things
it's competing for false god status
and drag to arrive at reality and
show that has clay feet,
that they idolize feet clay. That will be
the work of the cartoonist; that will be the right one
the cartoonist's job.
So now that you know, that the thing you have to watch is,
Is that Trash image
Pail Kids stops being satire and starts to become a holy icon.
There are in and of themselves.
I see the same thing with Mad Magazine;
This is the opposite. They will print that one problem
has a different cover. Then the collectors will have
to buy all different variations.
And their original is the thing out there
taunting the consumer culture and for
getting people to think about such things.
And now it's part of the consumer culture.
Everything naturally develops into it.
But I tried to avoid it. But then again I have to make a living
so I don't know what I'm saying.
Are you having fun with that?
No.