1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,000 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,200 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,400 5 00:00:29,906 --> 00:00:35,453 And let's start the journey the length... together. 6 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:39,206 Do not stick together, 7 00:00:40,792 --> 00:00:42,334 but on a different path... 8 00:00:42,877 --> 00:00:44,462 towards the same goal. 9 00:00:48,257 --> 00:00:51,469 The goal for < br /> build structure... 10 00:00:52,428 --> 00:00:54,138 world peace and justice, 11 00:00:55,848 --> 00:01:00,060 where all can stand equally with equal dignity. 12 00:01:00,853 --> 00:01:02,104 First -tama, 13 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:04,231 our market is open to China. 14 00:01:04,398 --> 00:01:06,901 This agreement will open the Chinese market for us. 15 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:08,999 I call our relationship with China... 16 00:01:09,028 --> 00:01:12,448 very positive... and complex. 17 00:01:14,533 --> 00:01:16,368 The free market is the greatest power... 18 00:01:16,494 --> 00:01:18,496 for growth economy in human history. 19 00:01:19,538 --> 00:01:21,040 I will make a big agreement... 20 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:23,250 and many good agreements for the American people. 21 00:01:23,668 --> 00:01:25,169 Believe me! 22 00:01:41,894 --> 00:01:43,395 What is capitalism? 23 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,486 What is an system economy? 24 00:01:53,823 --> 00:01:57,242 Or is it an tool that we can use... 25 00:01:57,409 --> 00:01:59,659 to make a profit more for yourself... 26 00:01:59,662 --> 00:02:01,121 and take advantage from others? 27 00:02:03,833 --> 00:02:05,417 I think, basically, 28 00:02:06,085 --> 00:02:08,587 it benefits them who works hard, 29 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:11,423 but it also benefits those who... 30 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:16,261 want to... take advantage of from others. 31 00:02:28,024 --> 00:02:31,694 There are no good people in this story.... 32 00:02:33,696 --> 00:02:34,864 including me. 33 00:02:50,254 --> 00:02:51,630 - Yes, yes, that's good. - All right... 34 00:02:53,091 --> 00:02:54,675 What is the first memory from your childhood? 35 00:02:57,428 --> 00:03:00,222 - That's a difficult question. - Really? 36 00:03:00,973 --> 00:03:03,308 I... didn't expect it. 37 00:03:04,226 --> 00:03:06,979 I don't remember 's first memory from my childhood. 38 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,861 I imagined when was still two years old I eradicated... 39 00:03:09,899 --> 00:03:10,983 fraud somewhere. 40 00:03:12,276 --> 00:03:13,778 This is Dan David. 41 00:03:19,075 --> 00:03:21,285 The first time I met him, we were drinking... 42 00:03:21,452 --> 00:03:23,704 at TGI Fridays at Penn Station, 43 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:27,041 and he told me the story of which is almost untrustworthy. 44 00:03:31,087 --> 00:03:32,292 Before the problem subsided... 45 00:03:32,296 --> 00:03:34,882 in the 2008 economic crisis, 46 00:03:35,507 --> 00:03:37,509 > 47 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:39,303 Wall Street has found a new way... 48 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:42,187 packing garbage into gold. 49 00:03:42,187 --> 00:03:42,887 They planned very big cheats... 50 00:03:44,308 --> 00:03:46,185 to all corners of the world. 51 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:48,353 But this time, the lie that became the basis... 52 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:52,524 the evasion was 100 percent legal. 53 00:03:57,947 --> 00:03:59,947 Part of Dan 's story starts here, 54 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:01,617 it's far from Wall Street. 55 00:04:03,619 --> 00:04:05,997 The small investment effort that he runs with his partner, Maj, 56 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:08,499 has collapsed because of the stock exchange. 57 00:04:08,833 --> 00:04:10,126 Hour 3. What's wrong? 58 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:12,492 People who have investment management funds in 2008... 59 00:04:12,492 --> 00:04:14,692 close their funds and start new funding. 60 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:16,799 - Chris, have something? - Complete... 61 00:04:16,966 --> 00:04:18,425 I'm working on. I just want... 62 00:04:18,592 --> 00:04:20,469 We immediately decide won't do it. 63 00:04:21,012 --> 00:04:23,012 We will get people get the funds back. 64 00:04:23,555 --> 00:04:25,516 They need great achievements, quickly. 65 00:04:26,184 --> 00:04:27,584 But because the western world... 66 00:04:27,584 --> 00:04:29,086 at the end of the depression again, 67 00:04:29,353 --> 00:04:30,771 the prospects are bleak. 68 00:04:36,068 --> 00:04:38,068 Not without hope everywhere too, actually. 69 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:41,032 People who already knew directed Dan to China. 70 00:04:41,907 --> 00:04:43,826 That was the market which is very large. 71 00:04:45,995 --> 00:04:47,595 The only market where people really... 72 00:04:47,595 --> 00:04:49,195 sure will go up, that is China. 73 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:52,299 That will be the biggest economy in the world. 74 00:04:52,299 --> 00:04:53,799 Let's invest there now. 75 00:04:53,799 --> 00:04:56,552 It surprised me because was completely different... 76 00:04:56,714 --> 00:04:58,423 with what I think, will soar. 77 00:04:59,508 --> 00:05:01,677 There are certain cities, once you visit, 78 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:04,004 and a year later You visit again, and suddenly... 79 00:05:04,004 --> 00:05:06,381 has stood a shopping center which didn't exist before. 80 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:10,259 Very dynamic. 81 00:05:10,394 --> 00:05:11,394 Gold fever. 82 00:05:13,564 --> 00:05:16,441 There are hardly any companies based in China... 83 00:05:16,901 --> 00:05:20,279 that you invested in 2009 will make you lose. 84 00:05:21,239 --> 00:05:23,282 For Americans pay attention to this, 85 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:25,034 you will think, "Gosh, 86 00:05:25,201 --> 00:05:27,452 " China really is a golden land... 87 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:29,496 rapid economic growth. " 88 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:31,456 I really think , "Gosh, you know, 89 00:05:31,623 --> 00:05:33,043 American domination has ended now. 90 00:05:33,084 --> 00:05:34,252 It's time." 91 00:05:40,674 --> 00:05:42,467 Everyone wants < br /> take part in China. 92 00:05:43,219 --> 00:05:44,595 There is only one problem, 93 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:47,700 foreigners like Dan can't invest directly... 94 00:05:47,723 --> 00:05:48,766 at the Chinese market. 95 00:05:50,059 --> 00:05:51,810 That's when a small bank from California, 96 00:05:52,103 --> 00:05:53,104 Roth Capital, appeared. 97 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:57,229 Roth found an unknown gap ... 98 00:05:57,233 --> 00:06:00,027 big banks, bringing small Chinese companies... 99 00:06:00,194 --> 00:06:02,821 and register directly on the United States Stock Exchange. 100 00:06:04,156 --> 00:06:06,700 Now And others and can participate... 101 00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:08,410 in the economic miracle of China, 102 00:06:08,994 --> 00:06:10,724 and young sellers from the bank have the opportunity... 103 00:06:10,746 --> 00:06:12,646 for great success with the right approach. 104 00:06:13,165 --> 00:06:14,565 Hey, Jed, how are you today? 105 00:06:15,084 --> 00:06:16,127 Good, what are you getting? 106 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,378 Yes, we're running a new company. 107 00:06:18,587 --> 00:06:20,172 Will you hear the transaction? 108 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:22,382 Two days passed. Five days passed. 109 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:23,759 Are you interested in it? 110 00:06:23,926 --> 00:06:25,726 This is what we feel that the capacity of the company can run... 111 00:06:25,803 --> 00:06:27,054 after this acquisition. 112 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:28,889 This is the security that is fully registered. 113 00:06:29,056 --> 00:06:30,057 What do you want do? 114 00:06:30,266 --> 00:06:31,850 If they are interested, 115 00:06:32,101 --> 00:06:33,101 they will return to you. 116 00:06:33,102 --> 00:06:34,312 Yes. Yes. 117 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:35,729 Yes, I'm interested. 118 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:36,897 It's worth 2 million dollars. 119 00:06:37,064 --> 00:06:38,064 Register me there. 120 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:39,065 Okay, good. 121 00:06:39,191 --> 00:06:40,318 And so it is. 122 00:06:40,484 --> 00:06:43,779 I tried to be in the plot. 123 00:06:43,946 --> 00:06:45,281 Imagine the flow of the river. 124 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:48,617 21 million dollars? < br /> That's a pretty good payment. 125 00:06:48,826 --> 00:06:50,746 - So just say... - I'm worried, actually. 126 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:53,038 I'm afraid that number isn't from China. 127 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:56,208 I never asked. 128 00:06:56,375 --> 00:06:58,794 Nobody asked it. 129 00:07:02,673 --> 00:07:05,384 Roth is an investment boutique bank... 130 00:07:05,717 --> 00:07:07,761 level two, or three from California. 131 00:07:08,637 --> 00:07:10,537 Others call it as a dormitory... 132 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:16,020 Roth Capital will be behind small companies... 133 00:07:16,228 --> 00:07:17,771 and encourage him to enter the exchange. 134 00:07:18,897 --> 00:07:22,943 They really advanced in 2010, 2011. 135 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:26,738 Roth was famous for transactions with China... 136 00:07:26,905 --> 00:07:28,448 at that time. 137 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:31,952 We went to some Roth conferences. 138 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:33,078 That's fun. 139 00:07:35,664 --> 00:07:38,167 Roth Capital Partners has held various conferences... 140 00:07:38,334 --> 00:07:40,334 > 141 00:07:40,336 --> 00:07:42,754 for years in Orange County, California. 142 00:07:43,005 --> 00:07:45,507 This will be the best conference in America. 143 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:47,634 Companies that < /> you've never heard before... 144 00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:53,015 offers advantages to the community. 145 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:56,601 And their business model is simplicity itself. 146 00:07:56,768 --> 00:07:59,938 They will hold for 3 days... 147 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,607 100, 150 companies and their PET will say, 148 00:08:02,774 --> 00:08:06,153 We think we will benefit 75 percent next year. " 149 00:08:06,737 --> 00:08:08,155 China in a few years has changed... 150 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:09,698 from interesting be important. 151 00:08:09,865 --> 00:08:12,076 And then change to entertainment shows. 152 00:08:14,286 --> 00:08:16,872 Snoop Dogg, Billy Idol, the dancers, 153 00:08:17,373 --> 00:08:19,458 ice sculpture, Trojan-themed nights, buses, 154 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:22,461 trains, planes... then baijiu, 155 00:08:22,669 --> 00:08:24,629 that looks like motor lubricants > canned packaging. 156 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:25,756 You drink and keep on drinking. 157 00:08:28,092 --> 00:08:30,428 You're ganbei, you toast to people, 158 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:32,221 then they toast to the others, 159 00:08:32,388 --> 00:08:33,638 and goes on and on. 160 00:08:33,847 --> 00:08:35,147 Chinese people want to see... 161 00:08:35,147 --> 00:08:36,482 what kind of person you are, 162 00:08:36,892 --> 00:08:39,644 and some of them feel
00:08:42,856 semakin terlihatlah kepribadian aslimu. 164 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:47,527 Hosts on... 165 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,780 these conferences sometimes are... 166 00:08:49,947 --> 00:08:52,699 bank chiefs who are happy stage -diving , Byron Roth. 167 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:55,911 ♪ I want to rock and roll All night ♪ 168 00:08:56,078 --> 00:08:57,413 Bring him! 169 00:08:57,579 --> 00:08:59,748 ♪ And party every day, I want to rock and roll ♪ 170 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:01,541 You know, he is a man who started... 171 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:04,044 a commodity business like that when I was 16 years old. 172 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:06,338 His father owned a farm business, 173 00:09:06,505 --> 00:09:08,755 and they would buy cows at an auction and such. 174 00:09:08,757 --> 00:09:10,717 I mean, he is not a simple man. 175 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:13,304 We only do something different. 176 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:14,721 And that's the sort of thing we... 177 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:16,188 as investment bank firm. 178 00:09:17,808 --> 00:09:19,935 For Byron Roth and Matt and Dan, 179 00:09:20,102 --> 00:09:21,353 it's time to party. 180 00:09:22,313 --> 00:09:26,317 Between 2006 and 2011, Roth held more than a dozen... 181 00:09:26,442 --> 00:09:29,320 conferences and generated trillions of for Chinese companies. 182 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,197 Byron , come here. Hug me. 183 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:39,579 Whoo! 184 00:09:45,419 --> 00:09:46,859 Narrator: Roth isn't the only bank... 185 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:48,578 who receives money at the Chinese explosion. 186 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:50,799 In New York, small operators... 187 00:09:50,966 --> 00:09:53,552 named Rodman & Renshaw held a investment conference... 188 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:55,095 in a different style, 189 00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:57,262 centers on the power of political stars... 190 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:59,599 its leader, General Wesley Clark. 191 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:03,145 In the Balkans, he helps /> negotiation of peace... 192 00:10:03,312 --> 00:10:04,604 between sworn enemies... 193 00:10:05,439 --> 00:10:07,039 and lead multi-national forces... 194 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:09,109 stop the terror series. 195 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:12,112 Wes Clark's life is like an American story, 196 00:10:12,571 --> 00:10:13,738 but he can... 197 00:10:13,905 --> 00:10:15,949 become a great American president. 198 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:21,621 First I want you to tell who you really are, 199 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:23,438 and tell a little your background. 200 00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:25,257 Yes, I'm retired. General Wes Clark. 201 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:27,836 He graduated from West Point in 1966. 202 00:10:28,086 --> 00:10:30,506 Studied at Oxford, served in Vietnam, returned home on a stretcher. 203 00:10:30,672 --> 00:10:32,572 Appointed as Commander NATO's Supreme Ally. 204 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:35,260 I joined the presidential campaign in 2003, 2004. 205 00:10:35,511 --> 00:10:36,845 Entered in investment banking. 206 00:10:39,014 --> 00:10:41,016 Rodman & Renshaw had a problem in the past. 207 00:10:41,808 --> 00:10:43,908 After years of experiencing chaos in management, 208 00:10:43,935 --> 00:10:45,937 they declared bankrupt in the late 90s. 209 00:10:46,605 --> 00:10:48,148 But with the trust of Clark General... 210 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:50,192 as a public face, they got up... . 211 00:10:50,359 --> 00:10:51,776 to be a respected bank, 212 00:10:52,027 --> 00:10:54,427 hold parties and sell Chinese stocks. 213 00:10:54,446 --> 00:10:57,115 They will usually invite the presidents, 214 00:10:57,949 --> 00:11:00,702 the former presidents,
Colin Powell, 215 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:03,497 Diana Ross, Henry Kissinger. 216 00:11:03,914 --> 00:11:05,914 For an hour or two, bring Henry Kissinger... 217 00:11:05,916 --> 00:11:08,252 or George Bush or Wesley Clark to speak... 218 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:10,352 no, oh, no, it's like coming to... 219 00:11:10,379 --> 00:11:13,131 the sacred place of knowledge, when, you know, 220 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:15,175 Kissinger is 90 years old, talking. 221 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:16,594 You can see what is really. 222 00:11:16,718 --> 00:11:18,512 They rent names for an hour or two. 223 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,598 These people all work for payment. 224 00:11:21,139 --> 00:11:22,459 That's how they are making money. 225 00:11:22,459 --> 00:11:24,179 When people are excited to speak, 226 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:25,644 adds their strength. 227 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:28,188 For 6 years General Clark became chairman, 228 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:30,905 Rodman & Renshaw brought more than 40 companies from China... 229 00:11:30,941 --> 00:11:33,235 to the United States market with the amount of value... 230 00:11:33,402 --> 00:11:35,613 more than 31 billion dollars. 231 00:11:39,658 --> 00:11:41,577 While Rodman & Roth get paid... 232 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:43,743 because bringing the Chinese companies to the United States, 233 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:45,295 the actual advantage came when... 234 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:48,417 these companies were registered at main stock exchanges. 235 00:11:50,085 --> 00:11:52,205 Their analysts will recommend risky stocks... 236 00:11:52,205 --> 00:11:54,624 as a good investment, and the sellers... 237 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:57,717 like Matt, will push it into their investment network. 238 00:12:02,013 --> 00:12:03,763 When those stocks rise quite high, 239 00:12:03,807 --> 00:12:05,807 banks and the insiders can withdraw the funds, 240 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:08,292 letting others survive at a cost of luck. 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,939 The point is, registering the company... 242 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:13,317 on the normal stock exchange requires audits... 243 00:12:13,484 --> 00:12:14,652 and public inspection, 244 00:12:15,193 --> 00:12:17,195 but banks find ways avoid them. 245 00:12:17,946 --> 00:12:20,865 They use a hidden process which called the reverse merger. 246 00:12:21,783 --> 00:12:23,868 That is a dollar denomination. It sells into, 247 00:12:24,035 --> 00:12:25,996 New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ. 248 00:12:26,163 --> 00:12:28,332 Normally it is shell company... 249 00:12:28,624 --> 00:12:30,959 which is a public stock... 250 00:12:31,418 --> 00:12:33,337 that is no longer operating. 251 00:12:33,545 --> 00:12:34,630 You can go to Nevada. 252 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:36,214 There's a lot like that there, 253 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:38,348 the company was originally a mining company or whatever, 254 00:12:38,348 --> 00:12:41,017 and they were like holding on
just there, waiting, 255 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:44,139 You know, looking for the right partner... 256 00:12:44,306 --> 00:12:45,474 who wants to merge with them. 257 00:12:45,641 --> 00:12:47,141 So you need a shell company. 258 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:48,810 Here's how it works < br>> reverse merger . 259 00:12:49,186 --> 00:12:50,937 Chinese companies find a way... 260 00:12:51,104 --> 00:12:53,565 enter the American exchanges with how to merge with... 261 00:12:53,732 --> 00:12:56,067 American shell companies who are not operating... 262 00:12:56,234 --> 00:12:58,612 but legally registered... 263 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:00,197 in the stock exchanges. 264 00:13:00,656 --> 00:13:02,056 The Chinese company then took over... 265 00:13:02,056 --> 00:13:04,100 The shell company was on the exchange. 266 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:05,703 Presto! You made it in. 267 00:13:05,869 --> 00:13:07,969 You are a stock that traded in the United States, 268 00:13:07,969 --> 00:13:09,513 and you can take part. 269 00:13:09,623 --> 00:13:11,124 And no one is suspicious. 270 00:13:15,086 --> 00:13:17,673 Between 2006 and 2012, 271 00:13:17,922 --> 00:13:21,009 more than 400 Chinese companies are listed on the United States exchanges. 272 00:13:22,052 --> 00:13:24,095 80 percent are reverse mergers. 273 00:13:25,013 --> 00:13:27,265 Our exchanges monitor them . 274 00:13:27,641 --> 00:13:30,477 Our banks supervise these companies. 275 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:32,285 You don't need to worry about it... 276 00:13:32,285 --> 00:13:34,085 because they exist on the United States exchanges. 277 00:13:41,572 --> 00:13:42,573 Oh, you're in Hong Kong? 278 00:13:43,741 --> 00:13:45,283 It's at number 30. 279 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:49,413 Between 2009 and mid 2010, 280 00:13:49,621 --> 00:13:52,832 China-based reverse mergers ... 281 00:13:53,542 --> 00:13:56,670 increased by several hundred percent ... average flat! 282 00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:58,838 Can you tell the Chinese transaction last night? 283 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,592 We are stuck in the approach to our investment value. 284 00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:05,011 And with the approach and our guidelines, 285 00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:08,348 it brings many Chinese-based companies. 286 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:10,415 And we get some hundred percent... 287 00:14:10,415 --> 00:14:11,583 of all. 288 00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:15,689 Longwei Petroleum, buy them, $ 1, $ 1.50. 289 00:14:15,939 --> 00:14:18,191 We sell, $ 5, $ 6, profit 500 percent. 290 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:19,943 L & L Energy, 291 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:22,571 buy them under $ 2, sell for between $ 9 and $ 10. 292 00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:24,782 Puda Coal, buying them around $ 4, 293 00:14:24,948 --> 00:14:26,366 sold for around $ 7, large companies. 294 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:28,702 China Agriculture, CAGC . 295 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,454 $ 9, sold for $ 28. 296 00:14:30,621 --> 00:14:31,913 Everything is a big company. 297 00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:35,793 We have returned. 298 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,500 IN YOUR WATER, YOU'RE CANNOT CATCH FISH 299 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:50,724 Until 2010, 300 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:53,184 Dan and his colleagues at Roth & Rodman... 301 00:14:53,351 --> 00:14:55,312 made great success
through Chinese stocks. 302 00:14:57,648 --> 00:14:59,399 Looks like it won't end, 303 00:14:59,650 --> 00:15:01,443 and maybe it won't end, if it weren't for... 304 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:03,779 a young American businessman... 305 00:15:03,945 --> 00:15:05,225 who went to Shanghai looking for... 306 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,031 fortune that is completely different. 307 00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:11,662 The business I founded... 308 00:15:11,829 --> 00:15:13,413 is the first self-storage business... 309 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:14,832 at mainland China. 310 00:15:14,998 --> 00:15:16,958 The name is Love Box Self Storage. 311 00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:18,669 World class. 312 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:20,879 And we win awards... 313 00:15:21,045 --> 00:15:23,173 self-service facilities the best storage of that year. 314 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:25,175 When preparing the business, 315 00:15:25,342 --> 00:15:27,761 I helped write "Doing Business in China for Beginners." 316 00:15:30,555 --> 00:15:33,350 Carson's father, a stock broker in the United States, 317 00:15:33,725 --> 00:15:35,435 wants to invest in Orient Paper, 318 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:37,813 The company that brought Roth Capital entered the market... 319 00:15:37,979 --> 00:15:39,481 p> 320 00:15:40,524 --> 00:15:43,524 The company claims to do a business worth 100 million dollars... 321 00:15:43,524 --> 00:15:45,024 a year and send tons... 322 00:15:45,024 --> 00:15:46,943 high quality paper to all over China. 323 00:15:47,906 --> 00:15:49,706 It is one of fast growing companies... 324 00:15:49,706 --> 00:15:51,041 that Roth & Rodman sold... 325 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:52,952 and that bought by investors like Dan. 326 00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:55,497 The goal is to do research, 327 00:15:55,664 --> 00:15:57,081 make sure it's valid. 328 00:15:57,666 --> 00:15:59,209 His father will make a report. 329 00:15:59,417 --> 00:16:01,461 Again, it will be easy to understand... 330 00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:02,838 and analyze the business... 331 00:16:03,213 --> 00:16:06,299 the opposite of the company American software. 332 00:16:07,217 --> 00:16:08,968 Carson and his friend
check the factory, 333 00:16:09,135 --> 00:16:11,221 but immediately, something is unnatural. 334 00:16:11,471 --> 00:16:14,182 The road is rural. The condition is worrying. 335 00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:18,269 That road can't hold large trucks... 336 00:16:18,729 --> 00:16:21,690 who goes in and out of the facility all day. 337 00:16:22,524 --> 00:16:23,817 Then we go to the factory. 338 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,865 It's really like a trash can. 339 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,992 Half the machines are broken, doesn't work. 340 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,287 Samples rot in the front yard, 341 00:16:36,454 --> 00:16:37,539 without signs. 342 00:16:38,081 --> 00:16:39,917 And that is their main factory. 343 00:16:40,083 --> 00:16:41,501 There are puddles everywhere. 344 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:43,461 This is a company which is a paper company. 345 00:16:44,588 --> 00:16:46,715 Companies that have claimed earn income... 346 00:16:46,882 --> 00:16:48,592 100 million US dollars, 347 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,969 which is firmly up from the previous year. 348 00:16:51,135 --> 00:16:53,471 How can this grow 50 percent per year? 349 00:16:53,638 --> 00:16:55,557 On the balance sheet, they show... 350 00:16:55,933 --> 00:16:58,769 5 million dollars worth of raw materials. 351 00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:01,020 So they have a stack < br /> for the sake of piles... 352 00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,815 obsolete cartons in front. 353 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:05,984 My friend climbed one of the stacks... 354 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:09,613 saw the rotted cartons, 355 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,615 and when it came down, he said, 356 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,867 "If this is worth 5 million dollars, 357 00:17:14,158 --> 00:17:16,286 then the world is much richer than I know." 358 00:17:16,703 --> 00:17:19,038 Carson and his father looked at each other at that time... 359 00:17:19,623 --> 00:17:23,376 ah, and said, "There might be something with this stock, 360 00:17:23,794 --> 00:17:25,169 but it has nothing to do with it." 361 00:17:35,346 --> 00:17:37,641 This business is really tricky. 362 00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:40,226 This won't work. Absolutely fraudulent. 363 00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:41,979 I've never seen anything like this. p> 364 00:17:42,938 --> 00:17:44,648 Carson wrote the report of its discovery... 365 00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,900 and announced to withdraw the claim... 366 00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,401 by making an offer on the exchange... 367 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:49,945 that the shares will drop. 368 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,447 That will change his life, 369 00:17:53,114 --> 00:17:55,116 but more importantly, it's the first time... 370 00:17:55,283 --> 00:17:57,410 someone found a shortage in the miracle of China. 371 00:17:58,286 --> 00:17:59,788 I sent it to the public... . 372 00:17:59,955 --> 00:18:01,999 at the end of June 2010. 373 00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,459 I lasted a bit for watching him closely, 374 00:18:04,626 --> 00:18:06,294 and getting closer, 375 00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:08,421 it just goes down a little. 376 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,381 Then I sleep, 377 00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:13,217 I imagine the reaction will report it. 378 00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,679 The next day was answered... 379 00:18:16,013 --> 00:18:17,597 > 380 00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:19,641 dropped 25 percent. 381 00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:21,267 And ended up sold down... 382 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,353 as much as 55 percent... 383 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,647 from when we sent the report. 384 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:28,566 Even though it's China and its economic growth is fast, 385 00:18:28,733 --> 00:18:30,652 the pigs don't fly in China, and I think that's... 386 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:33,488 There is a saying in China, 387 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:43,456 Yes, so it means water. 388 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:45,833 In clear water, there are no fish. 389 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:47,544 Huh. 390 00:18:47,836 --> 00:18:49,838 That saying, "Water cloudy makes it easy... 391 00:18:50,005 --> 00:18:51,798 catches fish. ", explains many things... 392 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:53,341 about what happened in China. 393 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,638 Keabu- abuan raises the opportunity... 394 00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:00,223 for people seeking profit. 395 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:04,019 That is the view of the Chinese, muddy water (muddy water). 396 00:19:04,185 --> 00:19:05,979 I think it's the right name ... 397 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,272 for the company and choose it. 398 00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:18,421 "Muddy Waters Report"... 399 00:19:18,421 --> 00:19:19,881 is a finding first big... 400 00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,037 about Chinese companies, and starting to resonate... 401 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:23,371 to all industries... 402 00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:26,124 no more than at Roth Capital, 403 00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:27,584 who plans the transaction. 404 00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:31,504 The target price is less than 1 dollar. 405 00:19:32,296 --> 00:19:34,049 You have photos of dirty factories. 406 00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:36,259 You have paper photos. recycling on the floor. 407 00:19:37,052 --> 00:19:39,345 Your people climbed < br />... photos. 408 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:43,700 This is a company worth 150 million dollars. 409 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:47,353 It's a little crazy actually. 410 00:19:49,606 --> 00:19:51,942 I sell more from 22 million dollars from the transaction. 411 00:19:57,488 --> 00:19:59,407 I remember going to Byron's office, 412 00:19:59,657 --> 00:20:01,257 asking, "What happened here?" 413 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:04,121 What "happened" is the company has... 414 00:20:04,287 --> 00:20:06,915 done the classic step in reverse-merger rules : 415 00:20:07,665 --> 00:20:09,709 search for an approval stamp from a trusted source. 416 00:20:10,376 --> 00:20:11,976 Deloitte & Touche has done... 417 00:20:11,976 --> 00:20:13,776 an independent investigation, mention... 418 00:20:13,776 --> 00:20:15,526 that the company has accurately... 419 00:20:15,526 --> 00:20:16,919 its financial statements. 420 00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:18,317 In the mortgage crisis, 421 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:20,029 banks use rating agencies... 422 00:20:20,029 --> 00:20:22,097 to hide their bad mortgage bonds. 423 00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:24,099 Now Orient Paper even use... 424 00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:25,850 more prominent protectors... 425 00:20:26,476 --> 00:20:28,536 one of the Big Four a global audit company. 426 00:20:30,438 --> 00:20:32,356 Every day, around the world, 427 00:20:32,523 --> 00:20:34,834 Deloitte professionals make a meaningful impact... 428 00:20:35,193 --> 00:20:36,253 It turns out that dozens... 429 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:37,612 reverse mergers China... 430 00:20:37,779 --> 00:20:40,423 uses the same trick, hides their cheating finances... 431 00:20:40,423 --> 00:20:42,258 behind the audits of the Big Four . 432 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:44,661 It's like giving investors, small stamps are flashy, 433 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:46,287 "Believe in us." 434 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,373 Because when we do our goal , 435 00:20:49,791 --> 00:20:51,250 all starts with integrity. 436 00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:56,339 Whether it's Deloitte or PwC, 437 00:20:56,756 --> 00:21:00,551 they hope those brands have significant value... 438 00:21:00,718 --> 00:21:03,930 wherever they are, but the truth is... 439 00:21:04,097 --> 00:21:05,974 the way the partnership was formed... 440 00:21:06,307 --> 00:21:10,145 is that each company is in their respective forms. 441 00:21:10,311 --> 00:21:11,980 So they can sell... 442 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,315 rent their names, effectively. 443 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:16,626 They all hope this company doesn't fall. 444 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:21,372 Some of the companies that will say, "Look. 445 00:21:21,372 --> 00:21:22,873 We are audited by Pricewaterhouse." 446 00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,367 No, not so. 447 00:21:24,701 --> 00:21:26,911 They were audited by Pricewaterhouse China, 448 00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:28,621 which is the franchise. 449 00:21:28,872 --> 00:21:30,581 It's not really Pricewaterhouse. 450 00:21:33,877 --> 00:21:35,628 In the United States, when we face. .. 451 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:38,173 mass fraud, 452 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:40,608 people always ask me, "Who is the auditor?" 453 00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:42,810 And I always say, "Who cares?" 454 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,097 It's important to understandably, 455 00:21:46,389 --> 00:21:48,039 and most people don't know this, 456 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:50,374 that financial statements are made by management, 457 00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:51,853 not by the auditor. 458 00:21:53,897 --> 00:21:57,316 The auditor's job is only to check management work. 459 00:21:57,942 --> 00:22:00,070 And if management tries to hide something... 460 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:03,198 or has chosen the auditor, they will hide it. 461 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:05,783 If it doesn't work, 462 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:07,318 they choose a backup plan, 463 00:22:07,702 --> 00:22:08,828 hire a reliable lawyer. 464 00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:12,540 Orient Paper hire
Mitch Nussbaum from Loeb & Loeb... 465 00:22:12,749 --> 00:22:14,918 to answer allegations of Muddy Waters. 466 00:22:16,211 --> 00:22:18,888 Mitch helped bring dozens of Chinese companies into the market, 467 00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,006 and know how to fight it. 468 00:22:20,173 --> 00:22:22,259 There are empty sellers who will advance... 469 00:22:22,425 --> 00:22:24,375 and put a short position on the company... 470 00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,835 then throw away all accusations against them... 471 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,723 Firm Nussbaum conducted an investigation. 472 00:22:29,224 --> 00:22:30,800 The conclusion is not surprising... 473 00:22:30,808 --> 00:22:32,560 is that Carson 's accusations are false... 474 00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:34,938 and the report he leads to slander. 475 00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:37,223 How do I know what those people said right? 476 00:22:37,223 --> 00:22:38,850 - That's a big problem. - That's a big problem. 477 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:40,277 All right, 478 00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:43,113 Let's talk about the case where are you do... 479 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,281 forensic investigations... 480 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:45,656 - Hmm. - Orient Paper. 481 00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:48,367 I'm not ready in situations like this... 482 00:22:48,534 --> 00:22:51,329 discuss or represent or add information... 483 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:53,981 of what we publish publicly, because it's not, 484 00:22:54,082 --> 00:22:55,208 you know, it's appropriate. 485 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,571 Business in China is a center of big profits.... 486 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:03,666 for Loeb & Loeb, 487 00:23:04,425 --> 00:23:05,843 but I imagine that... 488 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:07,486 their reports are sometimes bad... 489 00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:09,497 cause problems for Nussbaum and his colleagues. 490 00:23:10,473 --> 00:23:12,558 I imagine how diligent they are... 491 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,144 to satisfy regulators. 492 00:23:15,645 --> 00:23:17,272 Forget his lawyer. Forget the banker. 493 00:23:17,772 --> 00:23:19,065 Bankers don't check bookkeeping... 494 00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:20,317 and company reports. 495 00:23:20,483 --> 00:23:21,709 Lawyers don't check bookkeeping... 496 00:23:21,776 --> 00:23:22,860 and company reports. 497 00:23:23,153 --> 00:23:25,446 We did not check to find out... 498 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:27,157 whether the shipment was received. 499 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:29,717 > 500 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,609 I mean, there is no law firm doing it. 501 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,246 There is no law firm doing it. 502 00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:34,899 This is part of the story... 503 00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,424 where I have to think both ways. 504 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:39,210 Everyone we consider as a supervisor, 505 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,296 the lawyers, bankers, auditors, 506 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:43,438 people who make money... 507 00:23:43,438 --> 00:23:45,039 to make sure that the market is clean, 508 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:46,968 doesn't do that. 509 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,013 They only make documents as needed, 510 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:51,889 accept payment, then leave. 511 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:54,642 If companies are lying, then what? 512 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,482 The answers I received... 513 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:06,029 were not enough to cover my anxiety. 514 00:24:07,155 --> 00:24:08,939 And I felt they were not deep enough... . 515 00:24:09,073 --> 00:24:10,616 when answering my questions. 516 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:14,453 And that's when... 517 00:24:14,787 --> 00:24:16,914 everything has changed significantly for me. 518 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,084 My eyes are open to this concept... 519 00:24:20,335 --> 00:24:23,462 that there is another side to this company. 520 00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:30,887 > 521 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:32,722 I know my duty. I know what I can't do... 522 00:24:33,139 --> 00:24:35,599 if I just sit there. 523 00:24:36,226 --> 00:24:38,436 So for me, is... stop , 524 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:40,121 rest, and see what happened. 525 00:24:48,612 --> 00:24:51,032 I went safari. 526 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:54,327 I was at the Rodman & Renshaw conference, 527 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,954 and the firm named Muddy Waters... 528 00:24:58,289 --> 00:24:59,749 made a report on Orient Paper, 529 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:03,753 and it decreased significantly. 530 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,155 And this is the first time we really heard... 531 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,883 someone published a report and called it fraud. 532 00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:11,135 We decided... 533 00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:15,098 whether we are proficient... 534 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:16,807 we will get out of business. 535 00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:18,926 I try to contact, whether it's the general director... 536 00:25:18,926 --> 00:25:20,085 or the property manager... 537 00:25:20,136 --> 00:25:21,419 Then we hire our own team. 538 00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:23,940 And our team goes to China... 539 00:25:24,107 --> 00:25:27,485 check out some companies that are accused of fraud. 540 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:30,113 Let's discuss China Green Agriculture. 541 00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:32,156 China Green Agriculture came to our attention... 542 00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,658 initially in 2009. 543 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:39,471 And we invested long-term what we think is... 544 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:40,764 big fertilizer companies. 545 00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:42,417 Their stocks are rising. 546 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,920 Release press is published about
the transactions they made... 547 00:25:46,087 --> 00:25:47,630 with Nestlé and anyone. 548 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:49,757 And calculated that... 549 00:25:49,924 --> 00:25:51,468 to fulfill the contract, 550 00:25:51,801 --> 00:25:53,261 dozens of trucks will transport... 551 00:25:53,428 --> 00:25:55,138 and send items all day long. 552 00:25:56,806 --> 00:25:58,641 So, even though monitoring private companies... 553 00:25:58,808 --> 00:25:59,934 in China it's illegal, 554 00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:02,236 the team is at risk of going to jail for a long time... 555 00:26:02,236 --> 00:26:05,030 because of installing cameras outside the factory gate. 556 00:26:05,982 --> 00:26:10,361 We recorded it for 344 days. 557 00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:12,846 The tape shows the least activity there, 558 00:26:12,846 --> 00:26:14,646 very few employees go in and out. 559 00:26:17,327 --> 00:26:19,147 And think if the company is running... 560 00:26:19,147 --> 00:26:21,632 according to what they mentioned, they need... 561 00:26:21,632 --> 00:26:24,052 hundreds of employees and dozens of drivers. 562 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:26,710 So what we do is, we ask our investigators... 563 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:28,587 masquerade as salesman tea. 564 00:26:29,672 --> 00:26:31,174 So he comes, carrying a suitcase... 565 00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:34,218 full of tea, he claims to be a salesman tea... 566 00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:37,185 and wants to give examples of free tea for everyone. 567 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:38,662 So a total of 40 employees, right? 568 00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:41,767 Yes, right. 40 ordinary employees. 569 00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:44,603 Can you write the number here? 570 00:26:44,895 --> 00:26:46,980 Okay, I'll write 40 people. 571 00:26:47,690 --> 00:26:49,775 So say how many employees /> is here... 572 00:26:50,151 --> 00:26:51,902 so I can give enough samples. 573 00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:52,921 We get the answer. 574 00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:54,530 How many truck drivers? Only one? 575 00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:55,672 Yes. 576 00:26:56,199 --> 00:26:58,617 What does it mean if they only have one truck driver? 577 00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:01,162 That means their volume... 578 00:27:01,329 --> 00:27:04,623 very much more sediditious than their claims. 579 00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,882 In the first half of this year, 580 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:16,719 Ah, Yongye both revenues and their profits grew 100 percent . 581 00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:18,821 Calling China Green Agriculture means... 582 00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:21,248 that Dan also questioned the integrity of some people... 583 00:27:21,248 --> 00:27:23,348 with whom he raised waves of Chinese stocks, 584 00:27:23,518 --> 00:27:24,968 People like Crocker Coulson, 585 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,021 Stockbrokers who pushed that stock... 586 00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:28,313 and the same dozens. 587 00:27:28,731 --> 00:27:31,067 What about, hm, China Green Agriculture? 588 00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:34,862 So that's another story about the fertilizer we... 589 00:27:35,572 --> 00:27:38,074 Once again, this kind of goes back to me. 590 00:27:38,241 --> 00:27:39,283 - Yes. - I believe that... 591 00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:41,160 organic fertilizer. 592 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:42,537 That should also be... 593 00:27:43,037 --> 00:27:44,247 um... 594 00:27:44,622 --> 00:27:46,457 I really don't remember completely about the company. 595 00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:49,210 From what we know , they do 10 percent... 596 00:27:49,377 --> 00:27:50,628 of the business they claim. 597 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,046 Then resistance comes up. 598 00:27:53,548 --> 00:27:56,509 Releasing news calling us terrorists, 599 00:27:56,926 --> 00:27:59,262 sabotage builders, criminals. 600 00:28:00,096 --> 00:28:02,557 There are statements from five Beijing financial professors... 601 00:28:02,765 --> 00:28:04,601 who suspect foreign sellers... 602 00:28:04,767 --> 00:28:05,976 are rich and smart... 603 00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:08,143 are robbing small investors from China... 604 00:28:08,178 --> 00:28:11,181 and ignore the risk of exchange instability. 605 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:12,625 They don't mention any evidence. 606 00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:15,403 Let me be clear, we try hard... 607 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:17,380 trying to prepare companies, 608 00:28:17,988 --> 00:28:19,574 you know, before representing them... 609 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,909 then found a problem -problems, 610 00:28:22,743 --> 00:28:24,345 serious problems, if we pay attention. 611 00:28:24,412 --> 00:28:25,580 There is no way of knowing... 612 00:28:25,871 --> 00:28:27,415 where are good characters or bad characters. 613 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,711 The protector knows what is happening. 614 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:37,390 Then we visit investment banks. 615 00:28:37,592 --> 00:28:40,492 We show our evidence. We say, "Look what we found. 616 00:28:41,095 --> 00:28:43,495 If you use us and our team works hard, 617 00:28:43,514 --> 00:28:44,804 You must have better products... 618 00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:46,307 for sale to the American people. " 619 00:28:47,184 --> 00:28:48,384 They said, " Get out of here. 620 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:52,815 > 621 00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:54,900 You ask us to fund you and don't take 10 percent... 622 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:58,946 of each transaction through this bank. 623 00:28:59,113 --> 00:29:02,113 The less we know, the better, and by the way, 624 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:03,242 if you tell people what you found, we will sue you. 625 00:29:05,703 --> 00:29:07,203 Go home to Skippack. " 626 00:29:08,038 --> 00:29:09,415 Then we go back to Skippack. 627 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,252 We publish our research. 628 00:29:13,419 --> 00:29:15,212 Reports and based on suspicions... 629 00:29:16,005 --> 00:29:18,215 about China Green Agriculture. 630 00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:22,127 You know, nobody trusted him. 631 00:29:23,012 --> 00:29:24,547 What happened to the leader? 632 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:27,766 Nothing. I mean, he saved the money. 633 00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:30,436 And that's all about that, right? 634 00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:34,190 That 113 million dollars, poof, is gone. 635 00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:37,776 Ah, because they don't had a volume of that size. 636 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,678 And realized he got the money from the lies of those companies, 637 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,824 and it bothered him, 638 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:45,868 because he knows he will arrive... 639 00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,496 to what people say as the financial dark side... 640 00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:49,996 sell empty. 641 00:29:56,962 --> 00:29:58,172 Is that selling empty? 642 00:29:58,422 --> 00:29:59,702 Hmmm, I thought first about this. 643 00:29:59,716 --> 00:30:01,342 I want... this is always difficult. 644 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:02,968 But sell. .. 645 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:05,012 Is... 646 00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:07,072 Selling the first blank economically is... 647 00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:09,767 maybe a few transactions among, you know, 648 00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:11,435 two Cro-Magnon people, 649 00:30:11,602 --> 00:30:14,480 promised some people... Cro-Magnon people other... 650 00:30:14,647 --> 00:30:15,790 part of the tiger fangs. 651 00:30:16,023 --> 00:30:17,525 This is Jim Chanos. 652 00:30:17,692 --> 00:30:19,017 He is the empty dean of the seller. 653 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:22,963 And he already thwarted some of from the biggest scams in history. 654 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,615 If you want to think the question of selling is empty, 655 00:30:24,782 --> 00:30:27,117 all kinds of advertising transactions are selling empty . 656 00:30:27,284 --> 00:30:29,704 Airlines with ticket sales in advance, 657 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:32,206 for example, risking a place for you. 658 00:30:32,623 --> 00:30:35,251 Selling blank bet that the stock will go down, 659 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:36,586 than it should go up. 660 00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:38,128 So risking shares, 661 00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:41,131 you will often hear it linked to "borrowing funds. " 662 00:30:41,382 --> 00:30:43,342 This is where many people get confused. 663 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,243 Here's a simple way imagine it. 664 00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:47,680 Say I want to risk sugar. 665 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:50,057 I think sugar has been too expensive... 666 00:30:50,224 --> 00:30:52,476 and will risk less than, say, six months... 667 00:30:52,643 --> 00:30:53,936 from today's prices. 668 00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:55,979 I see it as a business opportunity. 669 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:59,149 I go to neighbors and borrow 1 pound of sugar. 670 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,402 Then I sell sugar that... 671 00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:03,279 with the latest price of 1 dollar per pound. 672 00:31:03,487 --> 00:31:04,488 Yeah! 673 00:31:04,655 --> 00:31:05,989 After six months, 674 00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:08,242 when you have to return < br /> 1 pound of sugar my neighbor, 675 00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:11,912 I bought it on the market, when the price went down, 676 00:31:12,455 --> 00:31:13,956 and I only spent 50 cents. 677 00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:15,874 I return one pound of sugar, 678 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,627 plus a little for flowers, 679 00:31:18,001 --> 00:31:20,087 and pocketed a difference of 50 cents. 680 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,507 He got the sugar back, and I made money from my bet. 681 00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:26,969 You want everyone who stays up on the exchange... 682 00:31:27,136 --> 00:31:29,305 believe what you say... 683 00:31:29,472 --> 00:31:31,490 if you think the company is a cheat... 684 00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:34,059 or you think something is wrong in the company. 685 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,312 People who are most interested by selling empty... 686 00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:38,897 may be those who lost their brains at birth. 687 00:31:39,106 --> 00:31:40,817 They are dissidents. 688 00:31:40,983 --> 00:31:42,983 Do I believe that their motivation is... 689 00:31:43,019 --> 00:31:44,419 for the sake of world justice? 690 00:31:44,862 --> 00:31:47,047 No, I think their motivation takes advantage. 691 00:31:47,114 --> 00:31:49,158 It's about cleaning up our financial markets. 692 00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:50,734 It's about stopping fraud. 693 00:31:50,801 --> 00:31:52,386 Who wants me do is, 694 00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:53,579 I want to say... 695 00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832 Remember this man, Dick Fuld? 696 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,448 He ran Lehman Brothers, the bank collapsed... 697 00:31:58,483 --> 00:32:00,819 in the monetary crisis in 2008. 698 00:32:01,086 --> 00:32:02,839 He has opinions about empty sellers. 699 00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:06,091 Grab their hearts, and eat before they die. 700 00:32:08,177 --> 00:32:09,970 So there are many problems here. p> 701 00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:11,514 There are many problems here. 702 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:14,533 When I bet against that company , 703 00:32:15,017 --> 00:32:16,644 because I believe, 704 00:32:16,811 --> 00:32:18,479 if they misinterpreted. 705 00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:21,440 And their trend line doesn't matter at all for me. 706 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:25,944 I am the one who will bet against fraud. 707 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,784 When Dan and Carson began to see... 708 00:32:32,851 --> 00:32:34,436 other Chinese companies, 709 00:32:34,578 --> 00:32:36,539 Matt had just returned from his safari. 710 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,667 He had been outside the radar and think you want to... 711 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:40,835 play where. 712 00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:43,237 So he asks to his friend, Soren, 713 00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:45,305 an financial industry lawyer from New York, 714 00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:47,174 meet him on the weekend at mountains... 715 00:32:47,424 --> 00:32:48,843 and check out some documents... 716 00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:50,736 which he kept from his tenure in Roth. 717 00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:54,056 In the process, they < >> find a new way... 718 00:32:54,223 --> 00:32:55,974 see the views about fraud. 719 00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:59,562 Matt said, "Just look at these companies. 720 00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:01,304 Tell me what you think. " 721 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,572 L & L Energy is the nominal coal company. 722 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:14,451 Typical RTO fraud... 723 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,704 in its financial performance .. 724 00:33:16,871 --> 00:33:18,305 is too good to be true. 725 00:33:24,044 --> 00:33:27,130 The idea that reverse merge is small... 726 00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,884 from the interior of China can... 727 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:32,887 efficiently mine and process coal... 728 00:33:33,387 --> 00:33:36,414 is far better than the best coal companies in the world... 729 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:37,808 is not a flexible thing. 730 00:33:39,142 --> 00:33:40,394 Check the document, 731 00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:42,329 they unpacked a new way... 732 00:33:42,396 --> 00:33:44,273 to understand what actually happened... 733 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,916 with hundreds of Chinese companies... 734 00:33:45,983 --> 00:33:47,818 list on the United States Stock Exchange. 735 00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:51,572 We are back with what is called SAIC documentation. 736 00:33:52,322 --> 00:33:54,825 That is a document from the State Office from, uh... 737 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:57,327 Oh, dear, I can't believe can forget it. 738 00:33:57,912 --> 00:34:00,205 State Office, Adminis... 739 00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,291 State Administration Office. Really? 740 00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:04,752 The most important thing here is... 741 00:34:05,127 --> 00:34:09,256 documentation in China tends to be very accurate. 742 00:34:09,423 --> 00:34:13,469 or more accurate than the entries registered... 743 00:34:13,886 --> 00:34:15,554 to the Securities and Exchange Commission. 744 00:34:16,597 --> 00:34:19,099 In China, companies can accurately say... 745 00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:21,846 they make 10 million dollars, while in the United States, 746 00:34:21,846 --> 00:34:24,446 they can report yields 100 million dollars or more. 747 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:26,983 SAIC documentation cannot be relied upon. 748 00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:29,359 They show whether the true bear happened. 749 00:34:32,863 --> 00:34:34,865 And this... this is a cultural difference, 750 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,704 we can't find auditors in China who want to help, 751 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,080 because I told you, 752 00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:44,541 if we find people like that, 753 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,085 the Chinese government will kill them. 754 00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:49,005 I mean, they will pick it up... 755 00:34:49,338 --> 00:34:51,089 and shoot his head. 756 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:54,927 This is, from the beginning, a fraud. 757 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:58,096 The goal is to cheat, 758 00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:00,516 from the beginning, and we will never < br /> see it... 759 00:35:00,808 --> 00:35:03,352 on that scale on the United States exchanges. 760 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,437 And that might be what surprised people. 761 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:09,817 That included Matt, and the reaction said, 762 00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:12,569 maybe this shows human nature, 763 00:35:13,153 --> 00:35:15,113 why we always get stuck in that mess. 764 00:35:16,532 --> 00:35:18,408 He is aware that hundreds of millions < br /> million dollars from... 765 00:35:18,575 --> 00:35:20,786 the results of China's reverse merger what he sells is fraud, 766 00:35:21,704 --> 00:35:24,999 but he reacts not with remorse, but pragmatic . 767 00:35:25,666 --> 00:35:28,126 He wants to make sure he gets a portion of the decline, 768 00:35:28,836 --> 00:35:30,128 so he switches parties... 769 00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,297 and becomes an empty seller, like Dan. 770 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:38,136 I... I did it and produced 78 percent... 771 00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,305 for 4 days. 772 00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:49,147 Finally LLEN collapsed. 773 00:35:49,899 --> 00:35:51,734 For empty sellers like and Matt, 774 00:35:52,109 --> 00:35:53,736 the documentation is a piece of the last puzzle... 775 00:35:54,528 --> 00:35:56,655 is not just evidence from one company or another... 776 00:35:57,197 --> 00:35:58,782 but data from all company. 777 00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:01,035 For the first time, they can see... 778 00:36:01,201 --> 00:36:02,745 the entire scope of the fraud. 779 00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:05,122 I don't know the amount, 780 00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:06,874 > 781 00:36:07,041 --> 00:36:08,667 but the losses of American investors... 782 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:11,034 reached billions of dollars. 783 00:36:11,087 --> 00:36:12,379 30 billion dollars, I think the figure reached 30 billion dollars 784 00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,464 - 20 billion dollars. - 50 billion dollars. 785 00:36:14,631 --> 00:36:17,300 Between 20 billion dollars and 50 billion dollars... 786 00:36:17,467 --> 00:36:20,345 of Exchange capitalization of registered shares... 787 00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:23,015 in the United States may be worthless. 788 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:26,643 Mediocre investors... 789 00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:29,187 so that results in... 790 00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,189 ordinary people in the community too. 791 00:36:34,234 --> 00:36:36,570 If one company is so insolent, 792 00:36:37,905 --> 00:36:39,949 what does it mean for the whole exchange? 793 00:36:42,076 --> 00:36:44,369 More than 300 reverse mergers ... 794 00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:46,872 with businesses operating in China. 795 00:36:48,999 --> 00:36:50,500 Everything can be fraud. 796 00:36:52,419 --> 00:36:54,312 And the funds may be never saved, 797 00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:57,382 and if you get caught, there are no consequences. 798 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:00,202 When you discuss investment banks, 799 00:37:00,269 --> 00:37:01,395 especially the larger ones, 800 00:37:01,804 --> 00:37:05,682 fraud is processed in income reports. 801 00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,444 How much banks investments... 802 00:37:09,019 --> 00:37:12,355 have to pay a fine for this year fraud? 803 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:16,234 Wells Fargo? Never. 804 00:37:16,986 --> 00:37:18,862 Bank of America in the past. Ever. 805 00:37:19,196 --> 00:37:20,948 Morgan Stanley di masa lalu. Pernah. 806 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,533 Nobody is jailed. Only fine. 807 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,661 So it becomes... 808 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,288 becomes part of what you budgeted for . 809 00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:30,415 > 810 00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:37,006 You budgeted fraud. 811 00:37:37,173 --> 00:37:39,175 Beliefs and deception might begin with the fact... 812 00:37:39,549 --> 00:37:41,426 that Flint, Michigan, where he grew up, 813 00:37:43,804 --> 00:37:46,689 is a victim of such fraud. 814 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,575 Large companies make grandiose promises to the community there, 815 00:37:50,186 --> 00:37:53,386 and finally , can't fulfill it. 816 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:55,315 And see how lies that originated from those corporate offices... 817 00:37:56,733 --> 00:37:59,110 have an impact on ordinary people. 818 00:37:59,195 --> 00:38:00,654 Where other financial people see the market sense, 819 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:03,991 And looking at his hometown, 820 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:18,396 is abandoned, full of ghosts. 821 00:38:22,051 --> 00:38:23,301 Regions this is pretty good 30 years ago. 822 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:31,309 This was once a school. 823 00:38:35,231 --> 00:38:37,107 But for stadar now, is rather hard. 824 00:38:39,651 --> 00:38:43,021 I mean, I can't even imagine 10-year-olds, 11, and 12 years... 825 00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:44,923 playing baseball now. 826 00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:54,875 No, I'm really... 827 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:56,543 I'm happy to grow there, of course . 828 00:39:02,799 --> 00:39:04,134 Companies lie. 829 00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:07,345 Companies lie. 830 00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:14,561 Those companies only care for themselves... 831 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:17,731 not for the community, not for the community. 832 00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,359 People need to care about with themselves. 833 00:39:26,323 --> 00:39:27,407 Flint is a great city. 834 00:39:27,991 --> 00:39:29,451 Always a great city. 835 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,122 The community is hardworking. 836 00:39:34,664 --> 00:39:36,083 The people are very hard workers. 837 00:39:42,131 --> 00:39:43,190 Alright, pay attention. 838 00:39:46,426 --> 00:39:49,221 I grew up in Flint... 839 00:39:49,512 --> 00:39:51,056 dan tetap di sana selamanya. 840 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,935 Then job opportunities disappear. 841 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,047 And have investigated companies... 842 00:40:08,047 --> 00:40:09,048 from the bottom up. 843 00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:10,508 Matt has seen in detail... 844 00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:11,868 their SEC documentation. 845 00:40:12,661 --> 00:40:14,246 They are together aware... 846 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,414 how simple it is that practice. 847 00:40:18,167 --> 00:40:20,085 Let's say you want to plan cheating. 848 00:40:20,109 --> 00:40:23,109 HOW DO I WORK? 849 00:40:23,255 --> 00:40:25,465 What you will do is, you need a factory. 850 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:26,499 > 851 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:28,444 You need leadership. 852 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:29,761 Then you need to find someone, 853 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:33,056 protector, for example. 854 00:40:33,807 --> 00:40:35,934 An inventor said, "This is your business . 855 00:40:36,101 --> 00:40:38,387 What can you do with 100 million dollars? " 856 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,189 He will help with his connections with the auditors, 857 00:40:40,856 --> 00:40:42,274 third level banks that are legal. 858 00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:45,027 "That will be... will be a game changer." 859 00:40:45,402 --> 00:40:47,579 "I will buy my suit. I can do this. 860 00:40:47,579 --> 00:40:49,415 I can do that. I'll be this big. " 861 00:40:49,614 --> 00:40:50,673 Get to the United States. 862 00:40:50,907 --> 00:40:52,492 This person or company in China... 863 00:40:52,826 --> 00:40:54,636 will say, "Okay, I'll find you... 864 00:40:54,703 --> 00:40:57,497 100 million dollars, but this is what you have to do . 865 00:40:57,873 --> 00:41:00,625 You have to telling the public you are already this big. " 866 00:41:01,251 --> 00:41:03,253 You just have to make sure marks all the columns... 867 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,755 to make it available for sale. 868 00:41:05,922 --> 00:41:08,466 And don't worry, because if they find out... 869 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,844 that we lie, you won't go to jail. 870 00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:12,889 - You're in China . " - All you need is... 871 00:41:12,889 --> 00:41:14,209 kongkalingkong from some people, 872 00:41:14,209 --> 00:41:15,689 and you can cheat whoever you want. 873 00:41:15,689 --> 00:41:17,269 And if we are lucky enough get the money... 874 00:41:17,269 --> 00:41:18,409 and they know you are lying , 875 00:41:18,409 --> 00:41:19,609 you still get the money. 876 00:41:19,895 --> 00:41:22,431 So there's really no risk. I manage everything. 877 00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:25,025 All you do is /> keep lying. 878 00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:28,611 You know, if you want to become PET... 879 00:41:28,778 --> 00:41:30,678 from a public company, you have to be educated, 880 00:41:32,115 --> 00:41:35,160 college, MBA. 881 00:41:35,327 --> 00:41:37,454 Those people don't have one. 882 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,123 Nothing, mostly those people. 883 00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:43,460 They come from cities level two or three in China. 884 00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:46,154 They come from business practices in different ways... 885 00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:50,873 Sort of the way businesses run < br /> their own candy shop... 886 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,432 A chicken farmer from China one day does not wake up... 887 00:41:56,973 --> 00:42:01,103 and understands how to cheat the United States capital market. 888 00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,939 From company formation- This small company, 889 00:42:04,773 --> 00:42:06,442 is all about stock market fraud. 890 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,728 When Dan, Matt, and other empty sellers... 891 00:42:10,728 --> 00:42:12,178 found basic characterization... 892 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,209 of Chinese cheating, they started unpacking it, one by one. 893 00:42:16,785 --> 00:42:19,597 Puda Coal, its leader, stole the funds investor. 894 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,300 SINO Clean Energy, advanced technology. 895 00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:25,502 This company advertises on buses. 896 00:42:26,336 --> 00:42:28,580 They will break up coal, mix it with water, 897 00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:31,508 and that is phenomenal energy... . 898 00:42:32,384 --> 00:42:36,305 They rent none other than Loeb & Loeb to sue us. 899 00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:38,348 China Integrated Energy, 900 00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:42,018 for weeks, no activity in this company. 901 00:42:42,394 --> 00:42:44,354 Suddenly suddenly, starts life. 902 00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:46,064 The lights start turn on. 903 00:42:46,731 --> 00:42:49,234 Next day, Rodman & Renshaw appears... 904 00:42:49,443 --> 00:42:50,710 with a bus full of investors. 905 00:42:52,154 --> 00:42:55,115 Take a tour at their facility, < br /> go back to the bus, then leave. 906 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:56,908 All lights turn off again. 907 00:42:59,369 --> 00:43:01,613 Rodman investors, invest a large amount of money. 908 00:43:03,123 --> 00:43:06,584 You continue to find attractive anomalies in China. 909 00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:09,371 I'm talking to people who run the gas industry... 910 00:43:09,371 --> 00:43:10,639 steel processing plant suppliers. 911 00:43:10,672 --> 00:43:12,466 > 912 00:43:12,674 --> 00:43:14,359 "We made profits from this now," 913 00:43:14,759 --> 00:43:17,513 then they said, "Yes, but there is a problem. 914 00:43:17,762 --> 00:43:21,433 It looks like the gauge is wrong , 915 00:43:21,641 --> 00:43:23,477 that we billed to the factory steel processing. " 916 00:43:23,685 --> 00:43:25,220 I said," When did you find out? " 917 00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:26,637 They said," Just last week. " 918 00:43:27,189 --> 00:43:29,065 I said," And the gauge is wrong. How big is it? " 919 00:43:29,399 --> 00:43:31,651 " Uh, the amount corresponds to our advantage. 920 00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:34,654 very strange. " 921 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:42,500 GUANXI OR EXCHANGE GOODNESS 922 00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:47,291 If you respect me, I will respect you. 923 00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:52,505 If this respectful reply is about profit, I will give up. 924 00:43:53,048 --> 00:43:55,008 I was told to say hello Dear Ho, 925 00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:57,986 whose ancestors have become the triumph of their territory. 926 00:43:58,303 --> 00:44:01,515 I'm a polite Ho, whose name stands in the shadow... 927 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:03,725 to become a great nation. 928 00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:08,313 In China, business is done following tradition... 929 00:44:08,605 --> 00:44:11,900 does not have a strong legal system. 930 00:44:12,234 --> 00:44:16,154 So people prefer trust and personal relationships. 931 00:44:16,363 --> 00:44:18,865 I will benefit very trustworthy. 932 00:44:20,075 --> 00:44:23,245 There is a lot of focus in shaping < br /> the relationship... 933 00:44:23,537 --> 00:44:25,372 so you can build trust. 934 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:29,667 The Chinese nation calls this network this personal relationship, guanxi. 935 00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:33,213 So I give you a gift and I help you, 936 00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:35,840 and you owe me. You scratch my back, 937 00:44:36,132 --> 00:44:37,332 I will scratch your back. 938 00:44:38,176 --> 00:44:40,095 I will scratch your back. 939 00:44:40,387 --> 00:44:42,264 p> 940 00:44:42,264 --> 00:44:45,516 If you give enough help to people, 941 00:44:46,851 --> 00:44:49,187 you can ask... 942 00:44:49,438 --> 00:44:50,606 their help might be rather less fun for them. 943 00:44:54,526 --> 00:44:57,571 And they feel have an obligation... 944 00:44:58,113 --> 00:45:00,698 but also representing something stronger is crucial. 945 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,961 And having told me that pursuing Chinese companies, 946 00:45:05,961 --> 00:45:08,863 can be dangerous. But it wasn't until when he told me about... 947 00:45:08,863 --> 00:45:11,857 Alfred Little who really made me understand what he meant. 948 00:45:12,461 --> 00:45:14,630 When reports < br /> it began to appear, 949 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:16,665 there was a website named Alfred Little. 950 00:45:17,507 --> 00:45:20,427 And it began to release very important reports, 951 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,137 sales of leather shoes, like, 952 00:45:22,471 --> 00:45:24,889 "We go and sit in front of a factory, 953 00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,516 and this is what we found." 954 00:45:27,976 --> 00:45:31,271 The website describes Alfred Little... 955 00:45:31,605 --> 00:45:34,983 as an investor with 35 years experience, 956 00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:36,943 I think he seems working at Deloitte. 957 00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:38,936 You know, maybe he lives in Shanghai. 958 00:45:38,945 --> 00:45:41,056 I mean, there must be a background the story, right? 959 00:45:42,157 --> 00:45:43,741 Basically he said that, 960 00:45:44,117 --> 00:45:45,985 all companies in China were cheating, 961 00:45:47,078 --> 00:45:48,137 the transaction was nonsense. 962 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,290 And I underestimated it. 963 00:45:50,624 --> 00:45:52,750 I don't remember the date, but there is an email saying, 964 00:45:53,209 --> 00:45:56,421 "I'm going to New York. Let's meet." 965 00:45:57,005 --> 00:45:59,675 I'm like, "Oh , okay, " then I go to a hotel, 966 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:02,051 and that person is there, and he says, 967 00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:03,336 " Oh, I'm Jon Carnes. " 968 00:46:03,845 --> 00:46:05,472 Like, "I am... 969 00:46:05,681 --> 00:46:06,931 you know, I'm Alfred Little." 970 00:46:16,566 --> 00:46:18,985 As one of the few Westerners who still works as... 971 00:46:19,194 --> 00:46:20,236 empty sellers in China, 972 00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:23,281 Carnes knows how to be careful and cover up the tracks. 973 00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:26,535 Posing as Alfred Little making it safe. 974 00:46:28,203 --> 00:46:30,163 But when he decided to check Silvercorp, 975 00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:32,790 mining company in the interior of Hunan province , 976 00:46:33,583 --> 00:46:36,586 he and his investigator found the dark side of guanxi. 977 00:46:37,337 --> 00:46:39,464 You know, some companies are more aggressive than others, 978 00:46:39,881 --> 00:46:44,678 but in general, I find that the more the report matches the reality, 979 00:46:45,053 --> 00:46:48,848 the more difficult for the company to explain... 980 00:46:50,099 --> 00:46:51,267 the negative reality, 981 00:46:52,435 --> 00:46:56,314 moreover they will do some sort of retaliation. 982 00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:59,401 Because if the company can't answer... 983 00:46:59,568 --> 00:47:01,611 questions from the sellers, 984 00:47:02,362 --> 00:47:07,450 they will look for other ways to stop the negative report. 985 00:47:10,495 --> 00:47:12,997 While Alfred Little started publicly questioning Silvercorp, 986 00:47:13,456 --> 00:47:15,083 the company's stock price began to fall. 987 00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,502 Company officials asked help... 988 00:47:17,711 --> 00:47:18,920 the local officials. 989 00:47:19,962 --> 00:47:21,881 The police began to threaten the head of Little's research team, 990 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:23,216 Kun Huang, 991 00:47:24,384 --> 00:47:26,469 holding him for hours or days, 992 00:47:27,220 --> 00:47:29,180 finding out who they worked for. 993 00:47:31,808 --> 00:47:33,851 Carnes knew that there were no troops come. 994 00:47:34,644 --> 00:47:36,547 He asked for SEC's help, and they said... 995 00:47:36,548 --> 00:47:38,270 their phone even could not contact China. 996 00:47:38,981 --> 00:47:40,181 let alone protect him and his team. 997 00:47:40,232 --> 00:47:41,984 I'm looking for Yi's officer. 998 00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:45,405 He sent other investigators to record the evidence secretly... 999 00:47:45,739 --> 00:47:48,617 that local police officers help sell Silvercorp. 1000 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,621 He will use the video as a tool for removing Kun from prison. 1001 00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,830 Have you contacted Kun Huang? 1002 00:47:55,081 --> 00:47:55,915 Communist Party Officer: No. 1003 00:47:56,082 --> 00:47:57,500 Officer: No longer related to him. 1004 00:47:57,666 --> 00:48:01,587 Officer: Kun Huang is meaningless. Like a pebble. 1005 00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:05,382 Officer: Dispose of one and no one will care. 1006 00:48:05,674 --> 00:48:09,303 Officer: He is Chinese who violates the law in China. 1007 00:48:10,471 --> 00:48:15,351 This issue... If Silvercorp doesn't make it < This mess... 1008 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:18,896 Everything will be finished by the end of last year. 1009 00:48:20,189 --> 00:48:26,362 Officers: Don't worry, we won't sue innocent people. 1010 00:48:42,128 --> 00:48:48,592 We started investigating Silvercorp around May or June 2011. 1011 00:48:49,093 --> 00:48:52,972 We were told by other investors... 1012 00:48:53,097 --> 00:49:00,604 that Silvercorp did < br /> silver mining in China, 1013 00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:06,152 and viewed very high. 1014 00:49:08,613 --> 00:49:10,031 Kun has made a secret video... 1015 00:49:10,198 --> 00:49:11,867 about mining business Silvercorp, 1016 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,327 and some local officers they bribed. 1017 00:49:15,244 --> 00:49:17,664 He was detained twice at the end of 2011, 1018 00:49:18,373 --> 00:49:20,041 and the officers promised would not bother him... 1019 00:49:20,249 --> 00:49:21,959 if he wants to expose and report Alfred Little. 1020 00:49:23,044 --> 00:49:25,129 He refuses, then in that year, 1021 00:49:25,338 --> 00:49:28,049 he is banned at the border while trying to fly to Hong Kong. 1022 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:34,054 When I first entered the detention center... 1023 00:49:34,388 --> 00:49:42,146 no one told me that I had the right to speak with a lawyer . 1024 00:49:44,523 --> 00:49:49,486 I know that the investigators are collaborating with Silvercorp, 1025 00:49:49,612 --> 00:49:51,030 and they want revenge. 1026 00:49:56,535 --> 00:49:59,872 I came at midnight and they put me in a cell. 1027 00:50:00,581 --> 00:50:06,420 The room is only 30 square meters. 1028 00:50:12,635 --> 00:50:15,971 The room was full of people who slept on the floor. 1029 00:50:19,099 --> 00:50:24,563 I was afraid. I don't know how long I will be detained. 1030 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,486 I didn't do anything illegal. 1031 00:50:30,653 --> 00:50:34,448 But finally I was detained in China for two years. 1032 00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:42,248 It was a big disaster for me. 1033 00:50:43,123 --> 00:50:45,459 It destroyed my family. 1034 00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:52,508 But I thought that I did the right thing. 1035 00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,683 Good intentions will finally be defeating evil. 1036 00:51:18,326 --> 00:51:21,078 What... how much is mine? 1037 00:51:26,668 --> 00:51:27,627 Right. 1038 00:51:27,961 --> 00:51:29,086 Hmm. 1039 00:51:30,588 --> 00:51:32,799 Before Jon was exposed as Alfred Little, 1040 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:34,590 And thinking he was crazy. 1041 00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:35,802 Hey... 1042 00:51:36,218 --> 00:51:38,218 Now, along with Carson, Matt, and Soren, 1043 00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:39,920 mereka adalah bagian dari klan loose-knit. 1044 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,540 Blank seller activists eradicate fraud in China. 1045 00:51:44,477 --> 00:51:46,120 Most of them are realists... 1046 00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:48,714 who believe the market will find the truth itself. 1047 00:51:49,649 --> 00:51:50,817 And different. 1048 00:51:51,901 --> 00:51:53,286 He considers it a personal matter. 1049 00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:57,991 Kun still visits psychologists once in a week. 1050 00:51:59,951 --> 00:52:01,661 You did a good thing... 1051 00:52:03,496 --> 00:52:04,896 Don't just let it go. 1052 00:52:05,874 --> 00:52:07,625 Take care of him while he is there. 1053 00:52:09,752 --> 00:52:11,852 How many other people do we know will leave him alone. 1054 00:52:12,755 --> 00:52:13,956 We owe him a lot. 1055 00:52:15,383 --> 00:52:17,052 His prison Kun changed And. 1056 00:52:17,844 --> 00:52:18,970 As far as we note, 1057 00:52:19,554 --> 00:52:22,015 it's not just uncovering fraud again. 1058 00:52:22,974 --> 00:52:24,475 It's a matter of right or wrong. 1059 00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:28,312 His friend has been imprisoned, 1060 00:52:28,938 --> 00:52:30,481 and millions of people have been blackmailed. 1061 00:52:31,066 --> 00:52:32,567 He wants to intervene in the government, 1062 00:52:32,817 --> 00:52:34,217 even though he can make himself... 1063 00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:35,862 and other sellers leave the business. 1064 00:52:36,529 --> 00:52:39,032 So he hired a lobbyist and planned... 1065 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:40,575 attracted the attention of Congress. 1066 00:52:41,659 --> 00:52:44,453 Both Toomey and Casey, were on the Senate Finance Committee. 1067 00:52:45,121 --> 00:52:46,622 - Mm-hmm. - So I submitted... 1068 00:52:46,873 --> 00:52:48,290 the hearing of the Financial Senate. 1069 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,400 You, you talked to the staff.... who attended... 1070 00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:52,128 meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting. 1071 00:52:52,128 --> 00:52:54,228 So I thought many people didn't know, this really happened... 1072 00:52:54,228 --> 00:52:55,928 Every person I talk to, every person involved... 1073 00:52:55,928 --> 00:52:57,128 on the stock exchange, don't even know. 1074 00:52:57,128 --> 00:52:58,428 Lots of people don't know. 1075 00:52:58,428 --> 00:52:59,862 So this is the part that is frustrating. 1076 00:52:59,862 --> 00:53:01,262 So in our first meeting with Toomey's staff. 1077 00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:05,808 Hm, he, he actually recommended, after one and a half hours, 1078 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,021 - a campaign letter. - Right. 1079 00:53:08,094 --> 00:53:11,013 First, you know, welcome to 2016. 1080 00:53:11,773 --> 00:53:13,900 Hm, but my guess like that can still work 1081 00:53:14,233 --> 00:53:16,527 Two, I for hours explain to him, 1082 00:53:17,153 --> 00:53:19,154 that nobody knows they are being blackmailed. 1083 00:53:19,321 --> 00:53:21,232 How am I can make people write letters... 1084 00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:22,942 about things they don't know is happening? 1085 00:53:22,951 --> 00:53:26,328 If we give up, you know what /> that happened outside Washington? Nothing. 1086 00:53:27,038 --> 00:53:28,238 You have to be at his hearing. 1087 00:53:28,238 --> 00:53:29,238 You must consider yourself as an expert. 1088 00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:30,291 That's why we < You have to go to Washington, 1089 00:53:30,499 --> 00:53:31,333 That's where we will see the changes. 1090 00:53:34,629 --> 00:53:36,338 - That's very frustrating. - Mm-hmm. 1091 00:53:36,672 --> 00:53:37,423 And I'm just... 1092 00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:41,427 don't want to hear the world again. 1093 00:53:49,978 --> 00:53:50,979 And have a plan. 1094 00:53:55,316 --> 00:53:57,916 Still have a hearing with the Senate well there is a danger from China or not... 1095 00:53:58,111 --> 00:53:59,946 for our economy. 1096 00:54:01,072 --> 00:54:03,992 He took the opportunity to meet senator Toomey. 1097 00:54:04,450 --> 00:54:06,202 And make him listen to his concerns. 1098 00:54:06,494 --> 00:54:07,662 Will you choose him on that occasion? 1099 00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:10,289 - How do I choose? - Oh, good, good. 1100 00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:12,416 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We chat casually... 1101 00:54:12,625 --> 00:54:13,626 and I forget. 1102 00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:17,546 Fine, let me say this, I won't choose... 1103 00:54:17,713 --> 00:54:18,547 the banjo. 1104 00:54:32,728 --> 00:54:34,814 I think there are some great people... 1105 00:54:35,148 --> 00:54:36,816 the work is just nonsense. 1106 00:54:37,483 --> 00:54:40,444 If you want to run a business and you... 1107 00:54:40,695 --> 00:54:43,781 become a protector of interests of citizens... 1108 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,911 Citizens' rights, you have to do your job. 1109 00:54:49,245 --> 00:54:50,079 Thank you, sir. 1110 00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:53,208 Or let someone else who do, like that. 1111 00:55:14,020 --> 00:55:16,231 Today, the Committee will listen to testimonials... 1112 00:55:16,564 --> 00:55:19,358 about the Chinese economy and the risks to... 1113 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:20,609 United States. 1114 00:55:21,527 --> 00:55:23,821 Some believe that the Chinese economy's stimulus, 1115 00:55:24,072 --> 00:55:26,699 after the 2008 financial crisis, 1116 00:55:27,116 --> 00:55:28,910 has weighed on the financial system... . 1117 00:55:28,944 --> 00:55:31,396 with the percentage of debts that are not normally high... 1118 00:55:32,288 --> 00:55:35,016 China does not transition, uh, to a market economy. 1119 00:55:35,583 --> 00:55:37,618 They don't grow because of the commitments made... 1120 00:55:37,668 --> 00:55:39,620 when joining World Trade Organization. 1121 00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:41,463 The Chinese government appoints their SOE, 1122 00:55:41,672 --> 00:55:43,216 which is also called SOE, 1123 00:55:43,632 --> 00:55:46,844 and oversee companies privately, while limiting... 1124 00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,534 market access to the United States and other foreign companies. 1125 00:55:49,597 --> 00:55:51,266 And hope that < br /> Senator Toomey... 1126 00:55:51,432 --> 00:55:53,392 will touch on some of the questions he brought up with his staff. 1127 00:55:55,019 --> 00:55:56,145 But he left the hearing earlier. 1128 00:55:57,688 --> 00:55:59,232 And things go downhill from there. 1129 00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:04,028 I'm not sure I can see this as something to worry about. 1130 00:56:05,571 --> 00:56:07,489 What we need to worry more about, 1131 00:56:08,116 --> 00:56:11,535 is a continuation of instability in China... 1132 00:56:11,994 --> 00:56:13,579 and what are the implications... 1133 00:56:20,753 --> 00:56:23,172 How fast is the economy of China growing? 1134 00:56:23,798 --> 00:56:26,884 I don't know for sure. We don't have reliable numbers. 1135 00:56:27,176 --> 00:56:28,261 You know, I really agree... 1136 00:56:28,469 --> 00:56:31,055 that China's growth is not up to 6.7 percent. 1137 00:56:31,555 --> 00:56:33,682 Closer to the number, is around 4 percent. 1138 00:56:34,267 --> 00:56:37,353 So if the Chinese credit bubble breaks, 1139 00:56:38,187 --> 00:56:39,939 whether it's fast or slow, 1140 00:56:40,564 --> 00:56:43,192 bringing the Chinese economy down company... 1141 00:56:43,484 --> 00:56:46,612 - in the United States... - So, so you're not worried... 1142 00:56:46,821 --> 00:56:50,491 about exposure through derivatives... 1143 00:56:50,741 --> 00:56:53,244 which, for example, created our banks, 1144 00:56:53,535 --> 00:56:56,122 was fixated on the question of commodity prices... 1145 00:56:56,331 --> 00:56:58,166 or financial transactions Others are more direct? 1146 00:56:59,292 --> 00:57:02,628 Not through China alone... 1147 00:57:02,837 --> 00:57:05,006 atau transaksi finansial lain lebih langsung? 1148 00:57:05,298 --> 00:57:07,675 Tidak melalui China sendiri ... 1149 00:57:15,016 --> 00:57:17,768 Me and David. I'm sure Tom gave you my book. 1150 00:57:18,102 --> 00:57:19,145 - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. 1151 00:57:19,395 --> 00:57:20,188 You will find it... 1152 00:57:20,355 --> 00:57:21,189 "The China Hustle." 1153 00:57:21,314 --> 00:57:23,065 Right. That's right. 1154 00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:24,984 If you, uh, read it and you're interested, 1155 00:57:25,151 --> 00:57:26,819 I'm happy to talk about it with you about that. 1156 00:57:26,986 --> 00:57:27,442 Alright . 1157 00:57:27,443 --> 00:57:29,243 So, a few hundred billion are cheating, 1158 00:57:29,243 --> 00:57:30,143 and that continues. 1159 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:31,949 It hasn't stopped yet. Lasts continues every day. 1160 00:57:32,241 --> 00:57:33,450 - Good. - Yes, some of them. 1161 00:57:36,996 --> 00:57:38,789 Very short and... 1162 00:57:39,123 --> 00:57:40,916 - Okay. -... underestimate and generic. 1163 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:42,868 - Not important. - The only thing I... 1164 00:57:42,877 --> 00:57:44,879 heard in the end is Shelby, saying, 1165 00:57:45,171 --> 00:57:46,830 you know, we have to face reality. 1166 00:57:47,464 --> 00:57:49,024 - That's how it is. - Okay, the truth is, 1167 00:57:49,091 --> 00:57:50,901 - they won't do anything. - Right. 1168 00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:54,347 Most importantly, you know, you must lose... 1169 00:57:54,847 --> 00:57:56,407 - if doing anything. - That's right. 1170 00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:03,356 Uh, why did you come to Washington? 1171 00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:06,859 I was hoping that could bring it forward, 1172 00:58:07,526 --> 00:58:08,986 p> 1173 00:58:09,278 --> 00:58:11,678 defending the rights of investors, 1174 00:58:12,614 --> 00:58:13,914 to... appear and see what really happened... 1175 00:58:14,783 --> 00:58:16,283 at the committee hearing. 1176 00:58:16,952 --> 00:58:17,952 What happened at hearings? 1177 00:58:23,792 --> 00:58:26,087 Not much. 1178 00:58:26,295 --> 00:58:30,507 I thought and tried... 1179 00:58:32,093 --> 00:58:34,511 invited Congress take action, is a good thing. 1180 00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:36,513 Do I think that is the way overcome the problem? No. 1181 00:58:38,766 --> 00:58:41,143 I don't think so. 1182 00:58:41,685 --> 00:58:43,145 All SEC staff have not captured, 1183 00:58:44,021 --> 00:58:46,023 A number of sellers have captured, 1184 00:58:46,232 --> 00:58:47,442 forty or fifty from these cheats. 1185 00:58:58,535 --> 00:58:59,745 Coach, you want? 1186 00:59:00,162 --> 00:59:02,081 - Yes, I want. - Does he still live in France? 1187 00:59:02,915 --> 00:59:04,583 Excuse me, ladies, will I get something? 1188 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,043 Soda, water, beer? 1189 00:59:07,420 --> 00:59:09,004 Pop, can you get Sean beer? 1190 00:59:10,005 --> 00:59:11,924 No, he can take it himself. 1191 00:59:12,216 --> 00:59:13,008 He's big. 1192 00:59:13,384 --> 00:59:15,844 Uh-huh. 1193 00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:17,679 - Geo Investing. - GO? 1194 00:59:18,139 --> 00:59:19,014 GEO. 1195 00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:22,643 I bet against them. 1196 00:59:22,935 --> 00:59:24,812 I will write a report, and release it. 1197 00:59:25,562 --> 00:59:28,107 And I will say they are fraudsters and I will sell it. 1198 00:59:29,275 --> 00:59:30,609 But when they drop, 1199 00:59:31,319 --> 00:59:34,029 I won, but you all lost. 1200 00:59:34,822 --> 00:59:35,739 We lost everything. 1201 00:59:36,698 --> 00:59:38,200 Initially good. We didn't get... 1202 00:59:38,326 --> 00:59:40,495 This is a skim that comes from from everyone's account. 1203 00:59:41,329 --> 00:59:42,497 That's the change from anyone... 1204 00:59:43,914 --> 00:59:46,083 it can reach hundreds of billions. 1205 00:59:46,959 --> 00:59:49,378 So you're campaigning for something to happen. 1206 00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:52,381 So I won't make money anymore. 1207 00:59:53,424 --> 00:59:54,633 - You're a good person, Danny. - Yes. 1208 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:55,968 I always think you're always good. 1209 00:59:56,135 --> 00:59:57,594 It's impossible. 1210 00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:00,264 And I'm not a good person. No. Just... 1211 01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:02,641 can't be silent, that's all 1212 01:00:03,892 --> 01:00:05,092 Explain to me again, 1213 01:00:05,092 --> 01:00:06,632 why did you make money and we don't. 1214 01:00:06,645 --> 01:00:08,230 You bet against them. It sells them. 1215 01:00:09,357 --> 01:00:10,358 Okay. 1216 01:00:12,067 --> 01:00:13,861 Graduated with 1.6... 1217 01:00:18,449 --> 01:00:20,075 - I'm kidding. - There are two things here. 1218 01:00:20,242 --> 01:00:22,119 First, I don't know really graduating. 1219 01:00:26,748 --> 01:00:27,749 Carol read... 1220 01:00:28,834 --> 01:00:31,504 Something happened in China right now, 1221 01:00:31,712 --> 01:00:35,550 they found which they thought were aliens. 1222 01:00:36,175 --> 01:00:37,676 Isn't that buried in,
they found it? 1223 01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:41,847 Yes, it will be a small wrinkle. 1224 01:00:42,764 --> 01:00:44,850 That will make what I did the last 3 years in vain. 1225 01:00:45,226 --> 01:00:46,435 It's OK. 1226 01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:48,563 - Thousands of years ago. - Yes. 1227 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,773 Yes, I don't think he will return in full. 1228 01:01:00,741 --> 01:01:03,660 In the end, investors who rely on SEC... 1229 01:01:04,579 --> 01:01:09,542 to save them from lacking due diligence, or greed, 1230 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,335 embarrass themselves . 1231 01:01:12,044 --> 01:01:14,255 We have more opportunities in our exchanges than anywhere else in the world. 1232 01:01:14,713 --> 01:01:16,215 But, at the same time, 1233 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,428 we don't have a regulator who oversees our documentation, 1234 01:01:20,553 --> 01:01:22,721 and say, "We want to protect people from this." 1235 01:01:24,223 --> 01:01:26,016 Our system... you know, we send documents to the SEC, 1236 01:01:26,225 --> 01:01:27,935 and the SEC read the introduction, and commented... 1237 01:01:28,143 --> 01:01:29,728 on, it was delivered. 1238 01:01:30,062 --> 01:01:31,522 They did not determine whether was suitable for the public or not. 1239 01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:32,940 They don't make that provision. 1240 01:01:33,148 --> 01:01:34,942 They leave the free market decisive. 1241 01:01:36,235 --> 01:01:38,362 SEC must do its job. 1242 01:01:38,862 --> 01:01:40,948 Your job is to keep an eye on investors, 1243 01:01:41,156 --> 01:01:43,659 but you put the interests of the Chamber of Commerce... 1244 01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:45,661 and their big business members .. 1245 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,247 on your top priority list. 1246 01:01:49,373 --> 01:01:52,000 It is SEC's task to protect investors. 1247 01:01:52,627 --> 01:01:54,462 But it was registered in the 1930s, 1248 01:01:55,254 --> 01:01:57,465 at the time the stock price is rolling on the old machine... 1249 01:01:58,132 --> 01:01:59,341 and exchanges are closed at 4 o'clock. 1250 01:02:00,384 --> 01:02:02,553 Now, they are losing weapons and losing members, 1251 01:02:02,928 --> 01:02:05,640 like Keystone Cops chasing ships starship "Enterprise." 1252 01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:09,477 Even if the SEC gets all requests... 1253 01:02:09,768 --> 01:02:11,019 from company documentation... 1254 01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:13,564 and they have enough evidence to make it a case, 1255 01:02:13,855 --> 01:02:17,151 the Chinese people who are responsible for this, don't really care. 1256 01:02:17,443 --> 01:02:18,819 When someone violates the law here , 1257 01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:22,197 there is a process where they are accountable for accountability. 1258 01:02:22,615 --> 01:02:24,533 At some point in a China-based company, 1259 01:02:24,908 --> 01:02:26,285 accountability is lost 1260 01:02:27,077 --> 01:02:28,663 Disappeared in the ocean. 1261 01:02:28,954 --> 01:02:31,332 This is one of the first things ever said and told me. 1262 01:02:31,957 --> 01:02:34,960 In China, stealing from foreign investors < br /> is not illegal. 1263 01:02:37,129 --> 01:02:39,423 I don't believe the SEC allowed companies... 1264 01:02:39,715 --> 01:02:42,134 to be listed on the United States exchange, if there's no way... 1265 01:02:42,343 --> 01:02:43,552 policing them. 1266 01:02:44,345 --> 01:02:47,245 So I found an employee China state financial news agency, 1267 01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:49,808 who wanted to take the risk morphed the truth. 1268 01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,689 My name is Summer. I am an economic journalist for state regulators. 1269 01:02:55,814 --> 01:02:59,985 If the company releases false information about... 1270 01:03:00,151 --> 01:03:02,779 its financial statements are on the United States exchanges, 1271 01:03:02,988 --> 01:03:06,241 China's local regulatory authorities... 1272 01:03:06,491 --> 01:03:10,370 do not have the authority punish them. 1273 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:13,039 I'm sure to be punished... 1274 01:03:13,164 --> 01:03:17,252 if you make fake products in China, talk theory. 1275 01:03:17,377 --> 01:03:20,130 If I go abroad, if I lie to foreign investors, 1276 01:03:20,255 --> 01:03:24,259 Chinese authorities don't can do anything to me. 1277 01:03:30,015 --> 01:03:31,058 The outline is, 1278 01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:33,268 the Chinese government and the United States government, 1279 01:03:33,602 --> 01:03:36,146 at a certain level, does not work well together. 1280 01:03:38,399 --> 01:03:40,192 You can't force someone... 1281 01:03:40,901 --> 01:03:43,153 who has stolen millions of for millions of dollars... 1282 01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:46,532 from American investors come here from China. 1283 01:03:47,949 --> 01:03:49,660 You can't force them to testify. 1284 01:03:51,370 --> 01:03:52,829 You can't even find them. 1285 01:03:53,914 --> 01:03:55,332 Forget about ordinary people... 1286 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:57,793 who thinks that their broker or the SEC will protect them. 1287 01:03:58,753 --> 01:04:00,254 Even people like Crocker Coulson, 1288 01:04:00,713 --> 01:04:03,131 who works on the system, can't find... 1289 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:05,551 what actually happened with these Chinese companies. 1290 01:04:06,051 --> 01:04:07,428 You're in an alternative universe . 1291 01:04:07,678 --> 01:04:08,679 There is a kind of gunfight... 1292 01:04:08,929 --> 01:04:10,431 to do the simplest thing. 1293 01:04:10,681 --> 01:04:12,266 You can't even see the bank's financial statements. 1294 01:04:12,474 --> 01:04:14,976 You can't even go to the local bank and ask for it . 1295 01:04:15,436 --> 01:04:17,646 Often, managers from local banks, 1296 01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:20,232 will reprogram bank bookkeeping... 1297 01:04:20,482 --> 01:04:23,282 make it look like the client's bookkeeping they are better than them. 1298 01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:27,155 Every time there is a country like China, 1299 01:04:27,406 --> 01:04:29,617 where information is not easy to obtain, 1300 01:04:29,866 --> 01:04:33,870 Such a society has a far greater risk. 1301 01:04:34,246 --> 01:04:36,665 In the United States, we can go directly to a firm... 1302 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:39,003 and we can get
documents like that. 1303 01:04:39,042 --> 01:04:41,211 Looking for those documents in China, it's really more difficult, 1304 01:04:41,503 --> 01:04:42,797 is not even possible. 1305 01:04:44,172 --> 01:04:46,592 If you want to be a criminal, 1306 01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:48,885 the possibility of the best place to become a criminal... 1307 01:04:49,052 --> 01:04:52,347 is a place without police, and that's China. 1308 01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:54,182 That is a wilderness > west (Wild West). 1309 01:05:32,971 --> 01:05:35,932 I've arrived. I'm at the airport. 1310 01:05:36,851 --> 01:05:38,435 Just headed to the hotel. 1311 01:05:49,905 --> 01:05:52,115 And like Nicolas Cage < br /> in the movie... 1312 01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:55,118 where is he the only person who knows the world will end. 1313 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:58,288 He shouted it, but nothing care. 1314 01:06:00,374 --> 01:06:03,960 Auditors, bankers, Congress, SEC... 1315 01:06:05,587 --> 01:06:06,922 None of them saw a financial tsunami... 1316 01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:08,965 what Dan saw came from China. 1317 01:06:10,801 --> 01:06:13,053 Then he decided to do one thing he could do, 1318 01:06:13,804 --> 01:06:15,013 took the criminals' money. 1319 01:06:28,276 --> 01:06:30,487 Their funds have soared, 1320 01:06:31,071 --> 01:06:33,990 of 4.9 billion four years ago... 1321 01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:36,993 reaches 6.5 billion today. 1322 01:06:37,369 --> 01:06:39,371 It was revealed that the only way they could do... 1323 01:06:39,621 --> 01:06:41,039 to support the process of their business, 1324 01:06:41,289 --> 01:06:42,708 is through delutive payments. 1325 01:06:48,672 --> 01:06:51,174 Normally, And releases the report online. 1326 01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:53,008 But this time, 1327 01:06:53,008 --> 01:06:54,408 too much is at stake, 1328 01:06:54,762 --> 01:06:57,681 companies worth nearly 2 billion dollars, Tech Pro. 1329 01:06:58,724 --> 01:06:59,934 He believes that the leader of his company, 1330 01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:02,018 wrongly allocate funds... 1331 01:07:02,269 --> 01:07:03,604 cover up his personal projects. 1332 01:07:04,396 --> 01:07:06,774 If he can convince the market, he can get the company out. 1333 01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:09,109 That would be the biggest sale. 1334 01:07:10,193 --> 01:07:11,946 Now, I don't know what others say, 1335 01:07:12,237 --> 01:07:13,948 but, something happened > here. 1336 01:07:15,073 --> 01:07:17,910 Our feasibility test, lots of black smoke, 1337 01:07:18,452 --> 01:07:20,955 there is a lot of black smoke from this company. 1338 01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:22,122 That's fire. 1339 01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:25,918 That needs to be checked. 1340 01:07:59,868 --> 01:08:01,870 ♪ To change the world ♪ 1341 01:08:02,370 --> 01:08:04,289 ♪ I want to ♪ 1342 01:08:04,581 --> 01:08:06,082 Join us on the stock exchange now, 1343 01:08:06,374 --> 01:08:07,751 And David. He is co-founder... 1344 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,420 test-worthiness firm, GeoInvesting. 1345 01:08:10,712 --> 01:08:13,047 And I see it, You also take specialization in China? 1346 01:08:13,131 --> 01:08:15,133 Yeah right. My presentation about Sohn in June... 1347 01:08:15,342 --> 01:08:18,136 for Tech Pro, Tech Pro dropped 91 percent. 1348 01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:20,263 Do you need a good name recovery when you see the stock... 1349 01:08:20,388 --> 01:08:22,223 - it drops like that? - Yes, it's inevitable. 1350 01:08:22,516 --> 01:08:24,476 I... The stock will always drop. 1351 01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:27,938 Are you sure it's about China only or just... 1352 01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:33,861 What is capitalism? 1353 01:08:36,864 --> 01:08:39,033 What is an economic system? 1354 01:08:39,533 --> 01:08:42,703 Is that an tool that we can use... 1355 01:08:42,911 --> 01:08:46,331 to make a profit more for yourself... 1356 01:08:46,355 --> 01:08:48,355 and take advantage
from others? 1357 01:08:49,501 --> 01:08:53,547 Basically, it benefits them who works hard, 1358 01:08:54,381 --> 01:08:57,092 but also benefits those who want... 1359 01:08:57,384 --> 01:08:59,135 take advantage of from others. 1360 01:09:02,059 --> 01:09:08,059 PUBLIC PENSION FUND LENYAP SENILAI 14 BILLION DOLLARS FROM CHINESE CHEAP REVERSE MERGER 1361 01:09:13,316 --> 01:09:14,985 When we describe
fraud like this, 1362 01:09:15,819 --> 01:09:17,696 we use terms like "white-collar crime"... 1363 01:09:17,946 --> 01:09:19,031 to distinguish them. 1364 01:09:22,242 --> 01:09:24,202 But actually, < br /> is a thief, 1365 01:09:25,245 --> 01:09:27,497 In the process, it was fleeting robbed on the road. 1366 01:09:30,751 --> 01:09:33,253 It would be traumatic if you traced his personal losses. 1367 01:09:35,589 --> 01:09:37,883 How many were stolen of each pension fund, 1368 01:09:38,842 --> 01:09:39,634 severance funds, 1369 01:09:41,011 --> 01:09:42,054 of each of us. 1370 01:09:44,556 --> 01:09:47,601 The real story is the amount of value. 1371 01:09:48,476 --> 01:09:52,147 These are the investors, in the end, are mostly retail investors. 1372 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,067 They are mostly just people who play on the American stock exchange, 1373 01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:57,652 who pay attention financially and trusting it. 1374 01:09:58,862 --> 01:10:00,864 The money is money... 1375 01:10:01,115 --> 01:10:03,784 ordinary investors... 1376 01:10:04,076 --> 01:10:07,955 who thinks, "Hey, I want take part from the story of China's growth. " 1377 01:10:08,830 --> 01:10:10,832 And also those funds belong to... 1378 01:10:11,083 --> 01:10:12,626 mutual funds, like Vanguard, 1379 01:10:13,418 --> 01:10:16,504 who manages the funds for, for example, The New York Times, 1380 01:10:16,964 --> 01:10:18,381 is it right? Employees. 1381 01:10:18,966 --> 01:10:20,383 Money from my pension funds. 1382 01:10:21,384 --> 01:10:25,139 p> 1383 01:10:25,346 --> 01:10:27,808 We sell ourselves to Chinese myths... 1384 01:10:28,183 --> 01:10:30,644 as if an interesting market. 1385 01:10:30,811 --> 01:10:32,020 Nations that want leveling effects .. 1386 01:10:34,148 --> 01:10:35,273 from free trade. 1387 01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:36,817 You should know better. 1388 01:10:37,109 --> 01:10:38,401 Yes, what will I pay for, 1389 01:10:38,568 --> 01:10:39,820 if I have funds in Fidelity, 1390 01:10:40,112 --> 01:10:41,155 isn't that... why am I paying these people? 1391 01:10:41,362 --> 01:10:42,614 I don't know. I don't pay them. 1392 01:10:45,366 --> 01:10:47,368 I don't give them my money. 1393 01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:48,996 It's like a game from the orchestra, 1394 01:10:49,204 --> 01:10:50,956 when the music stops, 1395 01:10:51,372 --> 01:10:52,791 if You just have to hold the music paper, 1396 01:10:53,374 --> 01:10:54,374 if you just hold the funds, 1397 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:03,135 Okay, hm, my name is David Yee, 1398 01:11:03,802 --> 01:11:05,095 and I live in Atlanta, Georgia. 1399 01:11:05,971 --> 01:11:07,472 My name is Ray Snader. 1400 01:11:07,889 --> 01:11:10,100 I'm a print and broadcast journalist.... 1401 01:11:10,475 --> 01:11:12,435 in Newport, Tennessee. 1402 01:11:12,811 --> 01:11:16,439 Tom Snodgrass from, uh, Spring, Texas. 1403 01:11:17,482 --> 01:11:19,693 What attracted me to stocks /> China registered in the United States, 1404 01:11:19,985 --> 01:11:21,111 is a high profit. 1405 01:11:21,402 --> 01:11:23,030 There is great turmoil about them and... 1406 01:11:23,321 --> 01:11:24,239 a lot of attention. 1407 01:11:24,990 --> 01:11:28,869 I was expecting a good retired deposit... 1408 01:11:29,077 --> 01:11:30,411 for my wife and myself. 1409 01:11:31,579 --> 01:11:34,833 I didn't get a funding plan retired in my job. 1410 01:11:35,583 --> 01:11:38,419 I didn't get a fund plan retired in my work. 1411 01:11:39,504 --> 01:11:43,050 Roth Capital, issued purchase recommendations. 1412 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,386 Company first one that really caught my attention, 1413 01:11:46,636 --> 01:11:48,222 is AgFeed. They are said... 1414 01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:51,349 as the largest feed producer in China. 1415 01:11:52,308 --> 01:11:55,645 My last shares, I bought, 1416 01:11:55,854 --> 01:11:57,397 only 9 dollars. 1417 01:12:01,442 --> 01:12:05,197 We got... 12 cents per share. 1418 01:12:06,031 --> 01:12:10,326 And, we were about > have a total of 26,000 shares. 1419 01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,581 What kind of loss did you receive, personally? 1420 01:12:15,874 --> 01:12:17,167 It's a number, 1421 01:12:17,667 --> 01:12:19,335 about 150,000 dollars. 1422 01:12:21,213 --> 01:12:25,092 I think I lost, about 100,000 dollars. 1423 01:12:25,425 --> 01:12:27,635 My investment in these Chinese companies, 1424 01:12:27,802 --> 01:12:30,513 represents the most not 50 percent of my assets. 1425 01:12:31,139 --> 01:12:32,682 Prices are shaky, 1426 01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:37,187 and they end up, out of the list and not traded. 1427 01:12:38,313 --> 01:12:41,108 - The value is empty. - 0 dollars per share. 1428 01:12:41,233 --> 01:12:44,652 We believe in the market, 1429 01:12:45,153 --> 01:12:47,363 to the government to monitor the market. 1430 01:12:47,614 --> 01:12:51,659 And I think, uh, we lose in each transaction, 1431 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,370 in certain transactions. 1432 01:12:56,414 --> 01:12:59,793 > 1433 01:13:02,003 --> 01:13:05,548 Roth Capital issued purchase recommendations. 1434 01:13:05,882 --> 01:13:07,717 I'm not sure they ever visited the factory in China. 1435 01:13:08,927 --> 01:13:13,223 The fact is, today, 1436 01:13:16,476 --> 01:13:19,395 I'm not sure there are China Electric Motor companies. 1437 01:13:25,026 --> 01:13:26,320 - How old are you, Ray? - I'm 68 years old. 1438 01:13:29,489 --> 01:13:30,782 So the money is gone where? 1439 01:13:31,032 --> 01:13:32,408 To bankers and lawyers, 1440 01:13:33,868 --> 01:13:36,288 who helped prepare transaki. 1441 01:13:36,496 --> 01:13:37,831 And to the Chinese executives who made millions... 1442 01:13:39,666 --> 01:13:40,792 while companies they collapsed. 1443 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,503 I don't know what's worse, 1444 01:13:44,296 --> 01:13:46,422 or brokers on Wall Street can operate... 1445 01:13:46,631 --> 01:13:49,134 under the law, only doing their work. 1446 01:13:50,635 --> 01:13:53,054 One side or another, most of them escaped, 1447 01:13:53,388 --> 01:13:54,348 were free. 1448 01:13:55,056 --> 01:13:57,642 One exception, namely Rodman & Renshaw. 1449 01:13:57,976 --> 01:13:59,394 There was a short time, General ? 1450 01:13:59,727 --> 01:14:00,895 No. 1451 01:14:01,229 --> 01:14:02,772 During the peak of the reverse-merger explosion, 1452 01:14:03,315 --> 01:14:05,317 they distributed almost 18 million dollars... 1453 01:14:05,525 --> 01:14:07,218 as a bonus for their executives. 1454 01:14:07,361 --> 01:14:09,103 But their problems were revealed. 1455 01:14:09,821 --> 01:14:10,897 In 2012, 1456 01:14:11,281 --> 01:14:13,408 they pay fines 315,000 dollars... 1457 01:14:13,908 --> 01:14:15,660 and submit their licenses their brokers. 1458 01:14:16,536 --> 01:14:18,454 Immediately after that, they are declared bankrupt. 1459 01:14:20,165 --> 01:14:21,416

1460 01:14:21,708 --> 01:14:23,918 So I want to make you understand. 1461 01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:25,712 - Right. - Not Rodman & Renshaw. 1462 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,547 - Right. - I'm chairman of Rodman & Renshaw, 1463 01:14:27,714 --> 01:14:30,300 I'm not a banker at Rodman & Renshaw. 1464 01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:33,469 I'm not related to financial transactions in China. 1465 01:14:34,221 --> 01:14:35,596 It's not me. 1466 01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:38,541 I told them, "You have a problem with it." 1467 01:14:38,641 --> 01:14:41,311 I left the company, uh, about a year, 1468 01:14:41,561 --> 01:14:43,188 18 months later, from the council. 1469 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,733 My question is, who did he tell? 1470 01:14:47,483 --> 01:14:49,527 What about, "Then I went to Washington... 1471 01:14:49,903 --> 01:14:51,703 and met people
I know... 1472 01:14:51,703 --> 01:14:52,803 when I campaign for the president... 1473 01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:55,409 and tell them what happened "? 1474 01:14:55,533 --> 01:14:57,077 I don't seem to want put in a movie. 1475 01:14:57,202 --> 01:15:00,955 I thought this was just... wanted to attack me. 1476 01:15:01,248 --> 01:15:03,417 I don't need that. I try to form a business. 1477 01:15:03,666 --> 01:15:06,169 I don't want to be attacked. I didn't do anything wrong. 1478 01:15:06,336 --> 01:15:07,837 You are the leader board. What kind of role is that? 1479 01:15:08,046 --> 01:15:09,381 A leader of non-executive council? 1480 01:15:09,672 --> 01:15:11,049 Isn't he the one running the business, 1481 01:15:11,216 --> 01:15:12,842 or he really is there as a leadership figure, 1482 01:15:13,218 --> 01:15:14,928 who lent his name as credibility 1483 01:15:15,136 --> 01:15:16,054 of the situation? 1484 01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:17,513 I mean, that's the habit. 1485 01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:19,682 Like the Monica Lewinsky case. 1486 01:15:19,891 --> 01:15:21,684 Forget Monica Lewinsky. No problem... 1487 01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:24,020 what did you say about that. < br /> That's a bad story. 1488 01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:26,606 So, let's just let it go this session, okay? 1489 01:15:26,773 --> 01:15:28,483 - Sorry for wasting your time, - Am I, 1490 01:15:28,691 --> 01:15:30,318 membuat malu masyarakat? 1491 01:15:31,278 --> 01:15:32,528 Did I say, "You're not shameless... 1492 01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:34,364 for not asking the right question? 1493 01:15:34,655 --> 01:15:36,908 The auditors are embarrassing for letting it get away? 1494 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,743 The regulators are embarrassing because they don't make... 1495 01:15:38,952 --> 01:15:41,162 the requirements tighter and harder "? 1496 01:15:41,746 --> 01:15:43,664 So, you think there's no problem here? 1497 01:15:43,915 --> 01:15:46,000 Do you want to blame one or someone about this? 1498 01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:47,252 Ridiculous. 1499 01:15:48,128 --> 01:15:50,588 That's ridiculous. Everything... wrong. 1500 01:15:51,923 --> 01:15:53,174 Damaged. 1501 01:15:53,633 --> 01:15:55,635 Stop this. This is a mistake for me. 1502 01:15:55,927 --> 01:15:57,553 This is one of the people who depend on me. 1503 01:15:57,762 --> 01:15:58,721 I have a firm. 1504 01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:00,474 I have people who work for me. 1505 01:16:00,974 --> 01:16:04,185 I owe my best chance /> to provide their livelihood. 1506 01:16:04,685 --> 01:16:06,771 And, this doesn't help. This hurts. 1507 01:16:07,272 --> 01:16:08,564 So I just go out. 1508 01:16:10,066 --> 01:16:10,984 Yes, I'm not... 1509 01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:13,445 This is not a part to attack you, sir. 1510 01:16:13,611 --> 01:16:14,988 This isn't help... 1511 01:16:15,196 --> 01:16:16,906 That's not it, it's not my intention, nor is it... 1512 01:16:17,073 --> 01:16:19,326 Uh, I thought I could do this academically, 1513 01:16:19,493 --> 01:16:21,328 but I realize I can't. 1514 01:16:22,203 --> 01:16:23,079 Do you know? I... 1515 01:16:26,791 --> 01:16:28,835 China is fundamentally... 1516 01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:32,464 the social system that is damaged or chaotic. 1517 01:16:32,713 --> 01:16:34,132 The community that reaches the top, 1518 01:16:34,674 --> 01:16:37,511 > 1519 01:16:38,219 --> 01:16:40,305 reach it by breaking the rules. 1520 01:16:40,847 --> 01:16:42,849 Good people who want to follow the rules, 1521 01:16:43,141 --> 01:16:45,185 are trampled and pushed to fall to the bottom of the pile. 1522 01:16:45,352 --> 01:16:46,811 This, in some ways, has nothing to do with China. 1523 01:16:46,978 --> 01:16:48,062 If you give the incentive structure... 1524 01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:50,606 oh my goodness, we find the same amount of cheating here. 1525 01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:53,485 It's an easy thing for them. 1526 01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:56,196 Bull against a bear, Constantly. 1527 01:16:57,155 --> 01:16:58,906 And now because I trust the bear, 1528 01:17:00,033 --> 01:17:02,494 I don't know whether can return to the bull. 1529 01:17:07,874 --> 01:17:09,625 But, no regrets work for them. 1530 01:17:10,835 --> 01:17:12,920 My clients make money. 1531 01:17:15,881 --> 01:17:17,299 The community loses. 1532 01:17:17,758 --> 01:17:19,343 I think this is happening anywhere in the world. 1533 01:17:19,677 --> 01:17:21,387 But that's all, in China, 1534 01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:25,224 everything is due to multiple times . 1535 01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:27,810 You know. You have 1.3 billion people. 1536 01:17:28,018 --> 01:17:29,603 I mean, the consequences are huge. 1537 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:32,065 We never saw credit formed... 1538 01:17:32,357 --> 01:17:34,192 like what happened in China right now, 1539 01:17:34,484 --> 01:17:38,363 which was not followed by, a great monetary crisis. 1540 01:17:38,905 --> 01:17:40,198 So, stay here. 1541 01:17:41,491 --> 01:17:43,618 We, we have, so far, the most active market... 1542 01:17:43,784 --> 01:17:44,911 in this world. So far! 1543 01:17:45,912 --> 01:17:48,748 So, that freedom, leaving those decisions... 1544 01:17:48,915 --> 01:17:50,875 to the private sector, you know, 1545 01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:53,461 , that opens a lot, lots of capital. 1546 01:17:53,711 --> 01:17:55,255 This is financial crime... 1547 01:17:55,505 --> 01:17:58,132 in the last 25 years, with the exception of Bernie Madoff. 1548 01:17:58,633 --> 01:18:02,136 It's still too easy for bad guys in the economy... 1549 01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:04,055 avoid Washington. 1550 01:18:05,181 --> 01:18:06,766 We cut regulations. 1551 01:18:07,058 --> 01:18:09,852 I said 70 percent of the regulations could not be used. 1552 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,981 I thought you saw a lot in common with mortgage crisis... 1553 01:18:14,232 --> 01:18:17,110 in, in 2008 and the situation in China... 1554 01:18:17,444 --> 01:18:20,238 We already have a chance, after the global financial crisis, 1555 01:18:20,405 --> 01:18:22,156 my opinion, and we missed it. 1556 01:18:22,365 --> 01:18:24,825 It's like an appetizer, 1557 01:18:25,034 --> 01:18:27,703 at, those little garbage companies, 1558 01:18:27,954 --> 01:18:29,956 who, often, demonstrates cheating. 1559 01:18:30,248 --> 01:18:31,874 We count 50 billion dollars, 1560 01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:33,751 and it's like an empirical number. 1561 01:18:34,294 --> 01:18:36,337 That's the amount we can say, "Boom." 1562 01:18:36,796 --> 01:18:39,299 We can conclude and cheat it... 1563 01:18:39,466 --> 01:18:41,342 and hide it. 1564 01:18:42,093 --> 01:18:44,304 we're not talking... 1565 01:18:45,054 --> 01:18:47,932 that there are hundreds of billions of dollars... 1566 01:18:48,266 --> 01:18:50,184 that we can't even touch. 1567 01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:52,853 And cheating that can done... 1568 01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:55,773 through China with other intentions. 1569 01:18:56,524 --> 01:18:57,775 So it's not 50 billion dollars, 1570 01:18:58,192 --> 01:19:00,194 and not some investment banks, 1571 01:19:00,695 --> 01:19:02,822 and not some people in the United States. 1572 01:19:03,823 --> 01:19:06,826 Itu semua orang. Semua bank. 1573 01:19:15,251 --> 01:19:16,461 Do they know or not. 1574 01:19:18,087 --> 01:19:21,287 Giant e-commerce company from China, Alibaba, 1575 01:19:21,287 --> 01:19:23,287 made a Wall Street uproar today. 1576 01:19:23,593 --> 01:19:24,670 The company... 1577 01:19:24,670 --> 01:19:26,547 took off its first general offer... 1578 01:19:26,547 --> 01:19:27,564 on the New York Stock Exchange. 1579 01:19:27,564 --> 01:19:29,416 The stock price jumped
38 percent... 1580 01:19:29,849 --> 01:19:30,891 That is a perfect storm. 1581 01:19:33,102 --> 01:19:34,479 That is a perfect storm. 1582 01:19:34,604 --> 01:19:37,106 Yes, eBay and Amazon and PayPal are quite easy , 1583 01:19:37,357 --> 01:19:39,317 but this is Netflix; this is Groupon... 1584 01:19:39,651 --> 01:19:41,027 I mean, it's a perfect storm. 1585 01:19:41,235 --> 01:19:43,697 That is the first time the main internet company from China... 1586 01:19:43,863 --> 01:19:45,615 has gone public in the United States. 1587 01:19:48,868 --> 01:19:50,995 Uh, there's an old joke that the biggest lie on Wall Street, 1588 01:19:51,746 --> 01:19:53,623 is that right now, is different. 1589 01:19:53,831 --> 01:19:55,709 Advantages of Alibaba in the second quarter, 1590 01:19:55,875 --> 01:19:59,128 jumped by around 179 percent to 2 billion dollars. 1591 01:19:59,546 --> 01:20:00,672 That was a perfect storm. 1592 01:20:01,506 --> 01:20:02,923 That's the truth. 1593 01:20:03,132 --> 01:20:05,468 You don't need to be smart < br /> to really look for it. 1594 01:20:05,719 --> 01:20:07,220 You're like buying a lottery ticket. 1595 01:20:07,803 --> 01:20:09,764 Alibaba is a lottery ticket. 1596 01:20:10,724 --> 01:20:13,017 Charismatic Founder, Jack Ma, appear... 1597 01:20:13,142 --> 01:20:14,602 challenge some technology icons. 1598 01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:17,271 Should we join and buy Alibaba shares? 1599 01:20:17,564 --> 01:20:18,939 Yes, this is China. 1600 01:20:19,106 --> 01:20:20,900 Is there something that stands out... 1601 01:20:21,067 --> 01:20:24,571 which is worse than this? I, I, can make that argument. 1602 01:20:25,196 --> 01:20:27,114 That is Jack Ma , meet with the president. 1603 01:20:27,657 --> 01:20:29,033 Jack and I, will do... 1604 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:30,326 - great things. - Small business. 1605 01:20:30,577 --> 01:20:31,827 - Thank you, Jack. - Thank you, sir. 1606 01:20:33,454 --> 01:20:37,250 The CEO of Alibaba, Jack Ma, said, "Just trust us, just believe." 1607 01:20:37,625 --> 01:20:40,169 In this country, when someone says, 1608 01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:42,338 "Trust just to us, " the first thing you do is, 1609 01:20:42,838 --> 01:20:43,964 take care of your wallet. 1610 01:20:44,465 --> 01:20:45,966 Don't trust anyone, 1611 01:20:46,342 --> 01:20:49,142 and don't believe anything You can't see and check it yourself. 1612 01:20:50,346 --> 01:20:51,806 And that applies to Alibaba too. 1613 01:20:55,476 --> 01:20:57,853 - So why do you still do it? - Fuck them. 1614 01:21:00,231 --> 01:21:01,323 They lie. 1615 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,000 Roth Capital Partners Still Organize an Investment Conference. 1616 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,500 Loeb & Loeb Are One of Their Sponsors. 1617 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,000 Setelah Mengajukan Kebangkrutan, Rodman Merger Dengan Kompetitor Dan Masuk Kembali ke Bisnis Bank Investasi. 1618 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,000 Carson Block Still Running Muddy Waters. He Becomes One of the Most Successful Blank Sellers in America 1619 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,000 Matt and Soren Continue to Sell Empty Cheaters 1620 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,500 Since 2004, Wesley Clark has joined a board of at least 18 public companies. 1621 01:21:57,500 --> 01:22:00,500 He continues to speak at conferences - Investment Conference. 1622 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,000 Jon and Kun continue to work together. 1623 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,000 Kun in the middle of a lawsuit against Silvercorp, Seeks Compensation as a result of Wrong punishment against him. And Urgent Campaign in Washington. 1624 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,000 Dan Terus Berinvestasi Pendek, Dan Mendesak Kampanyenya di Washington. 1625 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,500 Dari Perkiraan 400 Perusahaan China Yang Masuk Bursa Selama Ledakan Reverse Merger, Hanya Satu PET Yang Masuk Penjara. 1626 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,000 Di 2016, SEC Memulai Investigasi Praktek Akuntansi Alibaba. 1627 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,000 In 2017, President Trump Appointed Jay Clayton, Who Works as a Lawyer in Alibaba's IPO, To Chair the SEC. 1628 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,600 Today, More Than 100 Chinese Companies Trade on the Exchange United States securities. 1629 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,600 Nilai Pasar Gabungan Mereka Lebih Dari 1.1 Trilyun Dollar.