0 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Visit www.Markasjudi.id Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agents 1 00:00:33,299 --> 00:00:37,303 Every night I will come out to see music in New York City. 2 00:00:37,303 --> 00:00:42,242 And I will return to the stage, night after night, at the show or at the club, 3 00:00:42,242 --> 00:00:47,380 and I will continue to do it see the same person < br /> again and again. 4 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:49,482 Like a frightening ghost. 5 00:00:49,482 --> 00:00:51,317 And I will say to myself: 6 00:00:51,351 --> 00:00:53,920 "Who is that person?" 7 00:00:53,953 --> 00:00:56,990 > 8 00:01:06,299 --> 00:01:09,803 [♪ heavy metal music] 9 00:01:09,869 --> 00:01:14,607 There aren't many people out there - I like, you know? 10 00:01:14,607 --> 00:01:18,645 Uh, including family, and uh, he is one of those I love. 11 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:21,081 An-and uh, so with that comes chaos. 12 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:32,392 ♪♪ 13 00:01:32,392 --> 00:01:35,695 that if it's not for Michael, I won't— I won't be in my place. 14 00:01:46,072 --> 00:01:52,779 He is a magnet for many artistic people, um , things are buoyant. 15 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:13,500 Only in New York can a Puerto Rican child 16 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:17,103 grow up in hasidic, gay environment... 17 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:20,306 and achieve what accomplished Michael. 18 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:23,343 They call it land opportunity. 19 00:02:23,343 --> 00:02:26,446 New York is a city of opportunity. 20 00:02:31,184 --> 00:02:36,556 > 21 00:02:36,556 --> 00:02:39,125 Here we are Borough Park in Brooklyn and, um this is my old address. 22 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:41,661 5412 New Utrect Avenue. 23 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:45,265 I live in here from when I'm about 24 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:46,699 12 years old around maybe 18 or 19 years old. 25 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:48,468 Me and my mother and sister me. 26 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:50,203 And this is an train apartment. 27 00:02:50,236 --> 00:02:53,173 you go to, eh, foyer, 28 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:55,008 kitchen, dining room, 29 00:02:55,074 --> 00:02:57,210 my sister's room, my mother's room 30 00:02:57,243 --> 00:02:58,211 and then my room, 31 00:02:58,244 --> 00:03:00,213 inside in front of the building, 32 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:04,184 facing the train B, which train is elevated. 33 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:07,487 Which one , train passes every two minutes, 34 00:03:07,487 --> 00:03:11,257 and believes or not I sleep through all of that. 35 00:03:11,291 --> 00:03:13,426 Like, that voice you will hear, 36 00:03:13,493 --> 00:03:15,528 I sleep every day 37 00:03:15,562 --> 00:03:17,564 [shouting on the train] for about six years! 38 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:19,032 Six years !! 39 00:03:19,065 --> 00:03:21,267 [MICHAEL] I grew up in a household where 40 00:03:21,334 --> 00:03:23,036 you don't talk about anything, 41 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:24,704 you don't know your business person. 42 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:27,040 p> 43 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,610 And then, you know, as a 53-year-old adult, 44 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:34,080 I sometimes ask well, why do they say that? 45 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,715 What exactly - what - 46 00:03:35,748 --> 00:03:39,219 Does house dirt happen that I don't remember? 47 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:41,487 This heavy droppings sometimes drops. 48 00:03:41,487 --> 00:03:44,958 I have a younger sister, she is 4 years younger, My sister is Cheryl. 49 00:03:45,024 --> 00:03:49,395 I mean, soon, you know he can ride the train and get out of the house 50 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:53,399 he will go or he will so we have this little train apartment 51 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:56,202 and he will do it locked in his room . 52 00:03:56,202 --> 00:03:58,972 The room is the very last part of the train apartment. 53 00:03:59,005 --> 00:04:00,440 He will be locked in his room 54 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:02,308 The music will sound, 55 00:04:02,342 --> 00:04:03,910 and he just got it, 56 00:04:03,943 --> 00:04:05,912 - he will spend hours in the room. 57 00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:07,580 Hours. Just listen to music 58 00:04:07,614 --> 00:04:10,650 Funny memory that I have middle school 59 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:13,086 Because now, you know, as an adult gay man. 60 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:14,287 And I keep going back to this because 61 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,256 is a lot funny thing happens, [school bell rings] 62 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,725 Um, I have a math class, 63 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:20,627 and there is a teacher that he is like 64 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:23,796 this burly man and um, 65 00:04:24,297 --> 00:04:27,000 I always thought, "Oh my God, he is very handsome." 66 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:29,302 But I like that this is a little petite 67 00:04:29,902 --> 00:04:31,371 15 years. 68 00:04:31,371 --> 00:04:33,606 And he is the teacher, math teacher. 69 00:04:33,673 --> 00:04:37,610 And I remember that there are some children
in that math class 70 00:04:37,644 --> 00:04:40,780 it's always making fun of me because I'm a bit sissy. 71 00:04:40,813 --> 00:04:44,450 And this teacher gets this wind. 72 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:47,587 And one day, he took these two children's chairs 73 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:49,689 and turned them over on their side. 74 00:04:49,722 --> 00:04:51,491 And they fall out of their seats. 75 00:04:51,524 --> 00:04:52,959 And he is like, 76 00:04:53,259 --> 00:04:55,061 "You're not talking about
people like that. " 77 00:04:55,094 --> 00:04:58,464 And of course, me and I are 15 years old crazy thoughts. 78 00:04:58,531 --> 00:05:01,167 I will be like, " Oh, he loves me. " 79 00:05:04,003 --> 00:05:05,905 But you know, as I thought - 80 00:05:05,938 --> 00:05:08,941 but like, wow, that my teacher protects me. 81 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:10,176 You know retrospectively now, 82 00:05:10,209 --> 00:05:12,879 I think he might be some like, skin bear 83 00:05:12,912 --> 00:05:16,115 who came out the weekend and just saw 84 00:05:16,382 --> 00:05:18,951 This, you know, little thing 85 00:05:19,018 --> 00:05:22,789 that he doesn't want anyone to make love. 86 00:05:23,122 --> 00:05:27,860 [fast-paced metal ♪] 87 00:05:42,742 --> 00:05:44,944 [MICHAEL] So I'm here, 16 years old, 88 00:05:44,977 --> 00:05:46,346 and I'm out all the time. 89 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:49,482 I don't know why my mother let me out every night 90 00:05:49,482 --> 00:05:52,018 But I will take the B train. to the city. 91 00:05:52,051 --> 00:05:54,354 And if I go to Max 92 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:57,190 I will replace the train somewhere along the way 93 00:05:57,223 --> 00:06:01,594 and get double R or N to 14th Street at Union Square. 94 00:06:01,627 --> 00:06:03,830 And heading up to Max & apos; s Kansas City 95 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:06,399 which I believe on the 18th and Park. 96 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:10,603 That's outside normal why they let me there, I don't know. 97 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:12,305 Because I am underage. 98 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:15,842 I am 16 and I see like I was old 12... half a year. 99 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:19,212 That's crazy, I mean people like 100 00:06:19,245 --> 00:06:20,446 Johnny Thunders, 101 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,614 Cherry Vanilla, 102 00:06:21,647 --> 00:06:24,350 [CHERRY VANILLA] Lee Radzwill, and Truman Capote, 103 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,754 and, prostitutes, female prostitutes, 104 00:06:27,787 --> 00:06:30,556 male prostitutes, a fortune teller girl, 105 00:06:30,623 --> 00:06:32,325 young rock stars. 106 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:34,427 Everyone will be like that Throw this 107 00:06:34,427 --> 00:06:36,763 atmosphere together. 108 00:06:36,829 --> 00:06:38,831 [MICHAEL] There are lots of 109 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:42,368 and come artists who play roles Max. 110 00:06:42,435 --> 00:06:44,737 Now keep in mind again that day 111 00:06:44,771 --> 00:06:47,840 if you play Max you don't play CBGB, 112 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:49,041 and vice versa. 113 00:06:49,041 --> 00:06:54,046 There's this thing that you are Max's band or you are a CB band. 114 00:06:54,046 --> 00:06:57,917 I don't know how to Suicide get away because of that they do a lot of nights in CB 115 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:00,720 and I know they have played several times at Max 116 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,055 the cause was originally where I met Alan Vega 117 00:07:03,055 --> 00:07:06,959 after he practically chased the whole room 118 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:10,963 because he was wild and crazy and banged mic on his head 119 00:07:10,997 --> 00:07:12,598 and open his lips. 120 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:17,403 And I'll sit there love to worship, love Suicide music. 121 00:07:17,403 --> 00:07:23,342 I'm a wild kid who knows that there's always something going on in New York City. 122 00:07:23,342 --> 00:07:26,412 And if I find it in the Village Voice and I like it, 123 00:07:26,412 --> 00:07:27,680 I went to see it. 124 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,682 [MICHAEL] Every night this week we came out. 125 00:07:29,682 --> 00:07:35,188 If we weren't at Lismar Lounge we are on Avenue B somewhere. 126 00:07:35,221 --> 00:07:37,723 and if it's really late at night 127 00:07:37,824 --> 00:07:39,225 you are at Save The Robots, 128 00:07:39,258 --> 00:07:40,593 You are Crisco Disco, 129 00:07:40,593 --> 00:07:41,994 You are in The World 130 00:07:42,028 --> 00:07:43,696 and East Village is 131 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:45,765 a little more than funky. 132 00:07:45,832 --> 00:07:47,266 One of the first times we are here 133 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,669 we stay up late at some hotels in Midtown, 134 00:07:49,735 --> 00:07:52,238 I think it's like Taft Hotel or whatever like that and there... 135 00:07:52,271 --> 00:07:54,774 Well one of them the first person we saw is the drummer's man 136 00:07:54,807 --> 00:07:56,642 from the film Taxi driver. 137 00:07:56,676 --> 00:07:59,011 And, um, you know we went down to St. Mark 138 00:07:59,045 --> 00:08:01,981 and they used to be let carts on side of the road, you know, 139 00:08:01,981 --> 00:08:05,051 and they don't have pooper scooper laws, so 140 00:08:05,051 --> 00:08:07,753 people walk around speak for themselves, 141 00:08:07,753 --> 00:08:09,555 a group of people who are very frugal. 142 00:08:09,555 --> 00:08:11,858 That is so cool, you know, we is- we think it's great. 143 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:13,693 [MICHAEL] I'm not afraid at that time. 144 00:08:13,693 --> 00:08:18,397 and The Bowery is so dirty and rather scary for young people from Brooklyn. 145 00:08:18,397 --> 00:08:20,700 But I feel there is a a scene happening, 146 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:22,668 and I want to be part of that scene. 147 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:25,438 It's full of creativity. 148 00:08:25,438 --> 00:08:28,341 Patti Astor is open Gallery of Fun. 149 00:08:28,374 --> 00:08:31,177 He maybe the first person shown 150 00:08:31,210 --> 00:08:32,512 Keith Haring 151 00:08:32,545 --> 00:08:34,747 and, uh, Jean Michel Basquiat 152 00:08:34,747 --> 00:08:36,315 All these great people. 153 00:08:36,315 --> 00:08:40,152 So it was, uh... electricity. 154 00:08:40,152 --> 00:08:41,721 The East Village in the 80s. 155 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:44,390 It was truly fantastic a thrilling place. 156 00:08:44,423 --> 00:08:47,894 These great shops, shops, cafes, bars. 157 00:08:47,894 --> 00:08:50,930 All sorts of coincidences will happen. 158 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:55,001 You will meet like that very different people with different gangs. 159 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:57,103 Uh, this is always an incredible sensation for me. 160 00:08:57,103 --> 00:09:00,873 Because it was raised in London that you didn't get the same type 161 00:09:00,873 --> 00:09:04,310 crazy mix of fun, interesting people. 162 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:06,946 At Service in English. 163 00:09:06,979 --> 00:09:10,449 New York violates all the rules and you will find yourself sitting next to 164 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:14,453 a writer, filmmaker, a, other band members, 165 00:09:14,453 --> 00:09:17,890 and there will be no hatred or enmity or jealousy occurs. 166 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:19,592 Absolutely fantastic. 167 00:09:19,625 --> 00:09:20,726 > 168 00:09:20,793 --> 00:09:22,795 For me it's a good time 169 00:09:22,828 --> 00:09:24,096 because it's everything I want New York to be 170 00:09:24,096 --> 00:09:25,865 before I get there. 171 00:09:25,898 --> 00:09:27,867 You want it step out and go, 172 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:29,635 "Oh my God, there's Andy Warhol walking across the street. " 173 00:09:29,635 --> 00:09:32,972 It's still everything in my mind is still happening. 174 00:09:32,972 --> 00:09:34,240 It hasn't gone away. 175 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,943 That's amazing, a scene that lives. 176 00:09:36,943 --> 00:09:41,147 Basically giants kindergartens are being run by kindergarten children. 177 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,149 Unless they are all medicines and... 178 00:09:43,215 --> 00:09:46,319 And, uh, when the tattoo means something and all the stuff. 179 00:09:46,319 --> 00:09:49,255 You know you have to understand not just the music. 180 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:50,590 It used to be mode. 181 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:55,428 That is, those people came to the city and that, you know, 182 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:59,065 vintage and that new and it's rubbish and vaudeville and that 183 00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:02,134 "Oh my God, finally I got out of Queens. " 184 00:10:02,134 --> 00:10:05,504 You know, not for anything. I like Queens, I am a bridge and tunnel. 185 00:10:05,504 --> 00:10:08,140 But finally I left. 186 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:11,277 And I mean like I don't have to dress like, you know, 187 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:14,113 I can't dress like that and go back to Queens. 188 00:10:14,146 --> 00:10:16,782 Every the next time I do it, or when I first do it, 189 00:10:16,816 --> 00:10:18,451 I throw a stone at me. 190 00:10:18,484 --> 00:10:23,222 So you have to go back and be at the beginning of something 191 00:10:23,255 --> 00:10:25,124 and you don't know what that is enough. 192 00:10:25,157 --> 00:10:29,962 You know we go downtown and go to CB 193 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:32,665 and you can see Annie Golden and The Shirts, 194 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:34,567 and you can see The Ramones, 195 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,135 and you can see Blondie, 196 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:39,071 From rock and roll Our perspective comes out every night. 197 00:10:39,071 --> 00:10:41,073 You can be in The Garden at 8:00 198 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:43,342 but you know you have to for the first time on 199 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:45,745 Cat Club if it's Wednesday at 10:30. 200 00:10:45,778 --> 00:10:48,381 And then, "Oh shit, we have to go to CB & apos; s. " 201 00:10:48,381 --> 00:10:50,650 because someone played well at 1:00 a.m. 202 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:54,453 and once you were on the roll, which was amazing, 203 00:10:54,453 --> 00:10:55,554 You come out all night. 204 00:10:55,554 --> 00:10:56,889 I'm out all night. 205 00:10:56,889 --> 00:11:00,026 And, you know, that is the beauty of New York at that time. 206 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:02,161 Every night we are somewhere. 207 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:06,065 Michael Alago is someone who can only get out of New York in, in the 80s. 208 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:10,202 You know if you look at the type, the spirit. 209 00:11:10,202 --> 00:11:14,240 The, you know, that, he is the nature of bacchanal, 210 00:11:14,273 --> 00:11:19,545 um, you know, his kindness , his openness, 211 00:11:19,578 --> 00:11:21,013 he, he, the intensity 212 00:11:21,047 --> 00:11:24,083 That was New York before New York became healthy. 213 00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:28,788 The world was certain < br /> different before AIDS. 214 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:31,357 You know, uh, this sounds a little tacky but likes 215 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:32,725 it's free love almost, 216 00:11:32,725 --> 00:11:34,760 but it sounds very 60s, love free. 217 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,463 You could say it's in New York City before AIDS, 218 00:11:37,496 --> 00:11:39,699 Gay scenes are very, very excited. 219 00:11:39,765 --> 00:11:43,035 But like in any big city, whether it's New York or 220 00:11:43,069 --> 00:11:44,904 San Francisco, 221 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:49,075 People are out there, uh, having sex all the time . 222 00:11:49,075 --> 00:11:52,044 I mean just, you know, here in New York 223 00:11:52,044 --> 00:11:56,015 at one point I lived on 763 Washington Street, 224 00:11:56,015 --> 00:12:02,021 in the early 80s and Washington Street alone 225 00:12:02,021 --> 00:12:07,760 was filled with underground S & M clubs, gay S & M clubs. 226 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,963 I mean < br /> Mineshaft, ay-yay-yay, 227 00:12:10,963 --> 00:12:12,898 There is Anvil. 228 00:12:12,898 --> 00:12:16,335 Then after you start walk on the shameful path 229 00:12:16,368 --> 00:12:17,870 fr-from late at night, 230 00:12:17,903 --> 00:12:18,938 on West Street, 231 00:12:18,938 --> 00:12:23,242 you will go to Nest the Eagles or Spike. 232 00:12:23,275 --> 00:12:25,911 and, you know, it's run away that you do 233 00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:32,084 and remember, men, gay men, < > go all the time. 234 00:12:32,118 --> 00:12:33,619 There is no internet, 235 00:12:33,619 --> 00:12:36,355 There is nothing on your cellphone where you see, 236 00:12:36,388 --> 00:12:39,258 oh That person ten feet away from me, do you know? 237 00:12:39,291 --> 00:12:44,196 You react to someone based on like almost just like animal appeal. 238 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:46,465 [MICHAEL] I remember coming home late at night 239 00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:48,067 from one of the gay bars, 240 00:12:48,134 --> 00:12:50,369 and the phone will ring. 241 00:12:50,369 --> 00:12:52,338 And of course I will be a little drunk 242 00:12:52,338 --> 00:12:54,540 and I will take it phone and be like, "Hey!" 243 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:57,176 And that person will say, "Look." 244 00:12:57,176 --> 00:13:00,913 And inevitably the person is masturbating in the window. 245 00:13:00,913 --> 00:13:04,049 And you will search and you checked it and left, 246 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:05,751 "Oh you're really a sexy man." 247 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:07,153 "Yo, is that buzzer number? " 248 00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:08,821 -" Two. " -" Okay, I will go up soon. " 249 00:13:08,854 --> 00:13:11,357 You go up, you have a whack, you do your business 250 00:13:11,357 --> 00:13:13,926 and then you just come back down and you keep going. 251 00:13:13,926 --> 00:13:15,461 But it's like an object, 252 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,930 in all like a gay area . 253 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:20,099 That if the phone rings, 254 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:23,669 you know that the closest person. 255 00:13:23,669 --> 00:13:25,971 Do they see you from the window? 256 00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:27,439 That's crazy. 257 00:13:27,439 --> 00:13:28,874 But what do you know? 258 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:31,010 These are things that are happening. 259 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:33,312 I remember those phones ringing all over New York. 260 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:35,514 I always answer them and they will always be like, "Hi." 261 00:13:35,514 --> 00:13:36,715 And I would like, "Fuck you!" 262 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:38,117 You know I will like... [stutter] 263 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:40,319 so I don't know that 264 00:13:40,352 --> 00:13:43,189 > that's what actually is - 265 00:13:43,189 --> 00:13:44,256 If the conversation starts running I don't know where it happened. 266 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:46,258 That's good to know. 267 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:49,795 [MICHAEL] I and my friend Jody Rubello 268 00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:50,663 are young people who are current active photographers 269 00:13:50,696 --> 00:13:54,066 and fans. 270 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:56,302 And we decided we want to make & apos; zine for the Dead Children 271 00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:58,237 and we want to like running their fan club. 272 00:13:58,237 --> 00:14:00,706 What do we know running a fan club? 273 00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:03,742 and you cut the letters and you, then you paste them 274 00:14:03,776 --> 00:14:05,544 and that says Dead Boys Fan Club 275 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:06,846 in all these strange letters. 276 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:09,348 But that is talent from punk rock. 277 00:14:13,018 --> 00:14:16,889 [MICHAEL] At that time they were the most interesting bands I have ever seen. 278 00:14:16,889 --> 00:14:19,625 What a man ahead Stiv Bators is. 279 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:22,194 He's like that bastard son of Iggy Pop. 280 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:24,630 These people from /> Youngstown, Ohio 281 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:26,332 come to New York 282 00:14:26,365 --> 00:14:29,802 and kick the fucking ass on CBGB> s. 283 00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:33,639 You know they will do it come out and open with Sonic Reducer. 284 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,476 and at one point you know Stiv like the type shake it there 285 00:14:37,476 --> 00:14:40,312 and he will come out
with this nice white blazer 286 00:14:40,312 --> 00:14:42,214 and it will tear the blazer 287 00:14:42,214 --> 00:14:45,084 and they will, and he has like vinyl. 288 00:14:45,084 --> 00:14:49,788 And cut off vinyl bologna pieces. 289 00:14:50,489 --> 00:14:52,358 And you will think what is this? 290 00:14:52,358 --> 00:14:53,492 What's going on here? 291 00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:56,161 And at some point he likes crazy and goes into music 292 00:14:56,161 --> 00:14:58,030 and going to rip bologna, 293 00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,865 blow his nose in bologna 294 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:02,401 and take bologna and swallow it. 295 00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:04,870 And you know that becomes punk rock which is very fun. 296 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:07,573 It's like God what happened Stiv Bators do? 297 00:15:07,606 --> 00:15:09,074 This is Stiv. 298 00:15:09,275 --> 00:15:12,678 Maybe it spits out bologna. 299 00:15:12,678 --> 00:15:15,047 Like almost like he masturbates this throat. 300 00:15:15,047 --> 00:15:19,051 We will sit on the lips from the stage at the concert and look at this, 301 00:15:19,084 --> 00:15:22,588 and we will only enter, you know, a rock and roll paradise. 302 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:25,591 Because of us too, we know the bands, you know? 303 00:15:25,591 --> 00:15:28,594 And when you know those bands, you know, you feel special. 304 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:33,565 But as I said I was a fan of Brooklyn who likes music. 305 00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:36,335 [Cheetah Chrome] Well, I mean they are normal kids from like Brooklyn, Queens. 306 00:15:36,335 --> 00:15:39,505 It's not like, you know people with, you know, razor blade. 307 00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:41,707 It's not like the scene in London where everyone is all dressed up. 308 00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:42,708 It's like normal kids. 309 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:45,611 They really like it and I mean just energy spill us from them. 310 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:49,114 That's amazing. I mean they, they love us and we know and we love them 311 00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:53,652 I started working at a pharmacy when I graduated um, high school. 312 00:15:53,686 --> 00:15:55,587 One year Visual Arts School 313 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:57,056 and that is Astor Place. 314 00:15:57,089 --> 00:16:00,025 Buildings behind us, this big building, uh, 315 00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:02,861 back that day it was called, uh, District 65. 316 00:16:02,861 --> 00:16:05,297 It was the municipality of unions. 317 00:16:05,297 --> 00:16:10,135 And in the summer of 1980 , uh, my dad made me my first job there 318 00:16:10,135 --> 00:16:11,737 in shipping and accepted the department 319 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:14,173 One day I was having lunch, 320 00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:17,509 > 321 00:16:17,543 --> 00:16:20,713 and I'm on 11th Street between 3 and 4 Avenue, 322 00:16:20,713 --> 00:16:23,582 and there is a building there it's forever 323 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:25,384 and at that time It's called Casa Galicia. 324 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:31,957 It's a Spanish dance hall. 325 00:16:31,957 --> 00:16:35,260 But the sign says it's there is the dance club will open there 326 00:16:35,327 --> 00:16:38,430 So I just decided I will enter this club, 327 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:39,798 I want to see what it looks like. 328 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:43,268 We all know that 329 00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:46,772 > 80s as The Ritz. 330 00:16:46,772 --> 00:16:48,540 This is amazing. 331 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:50,909 Here we are Webster Hall. 332 00:16:50,909 --> 00:16:55,147 The returnee that day < called The Ritz. 333 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:58,117 Um, I got my first job in the music business here. 334 00:16:58,317 --> 00:16:59,785 That was, uh, the summer of 1980 . 335 00:16:59,818 --> 00:17:02,254 When Mike was at The Ritz, 336 00:17:02,254 --> 00:17:05,424 I mean he was, like that a hard time to believe, 337 00:17:05,424 --> 00:17:08,560 especially for bands who will come, British bands. 338 00:17:08,627 --> 00:17:10,629 I mean like, it's phenomenal to think that we see 339 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:12,664 Duran Duran, Adam and Ant, 340 00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:16,435 at The Ritz when they play their first American tour. 341 00:17:16,435 --> 00:17:18,570 You must give credit to Jerry Brandt 342 00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:22,074 to recognize energy and, and enthusiasm from Michael. 343 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:24,576 That's why what you need in this business. 344 00:17:24,576 --> 00:17:29,748 This little boy's day go inside, 345 00:17:29,748 --> 00:17:32,985 and I, I think, I assume I say, "Can I help?" 346 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,686 Because that's how I am. 347 00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:36,822 I like yes I want a job. 348 00:17:36,822 --> 00:17:39,458 And there is something about him that is interesting. 349 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:42,194 And... 350 00:17:42,194 --> 00:17:45,064 he says I'm Michael Alago and blah, blah blah. 351 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,566 And he said, "Do you have a resume?" 352 00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:51,570 I like a resume? 353 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:55,607 I went to the School of Visual Arts and I worked at the pharmacy at Astor Place. 354 00:17:55,607 --> 00:17:57,643 And I kept looking at it, 355 00:17:57,676 --> 00:17:59,945 and he has this sparkling in his eyes, 356 00:17:59,978 --> 00:18:02,448 and curiosity abounds. 357 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,516 So I give him a job. 358 00:18:04,516 --> 00:18:05,951 Fast forward a little , 359 00:18:05,951 --> 00:18:10,489 You know, now in 1980 and, you know, all of that energy and stuff 360 00:18:10,489 --> 00:18:12,458 from the moment I a teenager just said 361 00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:14,460 I want to be in the music business. 362 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:17,963 Well finally it happened, uh, I got my first job at The Ritz. 363 00:18:17,963 --> 00:18:20,766 In a very short time he became my assistant. 364 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:22,134 And then he did everything 365 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:25,804 from the contract to listen > all my phone calls 366 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:28,640 Take a contract, give me a contract... 367 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,777 And I think what he likes about me as a young person 368 00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:32,878 is my joy. 369 00:18:32,878 --> 00:18:36,648 And I know about everything from 370 00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:39,485 the Great American Song Book 371 00:18:39,485 --> 00:18:40,919 to heavy metals. 372 00:18:40,919 --> 00:18:44,590 Because of my love for music it varies. 373 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,859 And he hires me as his assistant 374 00:18:46,859 --> 00:18:49,061 [Jerry Brandt] I always ask him about the band 375 00:18:49,061 --> 00:18:52,264 because he is young and I am in my 40s. 376 00:18:52,264 --> 00:18:55,100 And I, his ears are closer to the ground. 377 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:58,871 So he finally becomes
ordering at The Ritz. 378 00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:01,640 This person, Michael Alago, 379 00:19:01,707 --> 00:19:07,212 booked so many legendary events in New York City. 380 00:19:07,212 --> 00:19:10,782 Ritz is very important with Michael because was like, again 381 00:19:10,782 --> 00:19:14,052 He was the person fought for like, "The band will play." do you know? 382 00:19:14,052 --> 00:19:17,322 Once again, the man is like, he brought it all this great music. 383 00:19:17,322 --> 00:19:18,790 He's the person who ordered the event. 384 00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:21,426 He's the one who is interesting those big bands, do you know? 385 00:19:21,426 --> 00:19:23,495 Yes, could it be someone else? 386 00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:25,430 Maybe not. But that's it. 387 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:27,432 That's very interesting. 388 00:19:27,499 --> 00:19:30,536 I, I'm very < 389 00:19:30,602 --> 00:19:32,371 And you can go to The Ritz 390 00:19:32,437 --> 00:19:36,808 and see everything Tina Turner to The Specials. 391 00:19:36,808 --> 00:19:41,547 we are part of this things new music all over the world is happening. 392 00:19:41,547 --> 00:19:44,550 It comes from England, it comes from New York, 393 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:46,752 it's from Australia. 394 00:19:46,752 --> 00:19:49,655 It's fun and is from Germany. 395 00:19:49,655 --> 00:19:52,457 That's a fantastic period in New York. 396 00:19:52,457 --> 00:19:58,597 It's like a little a revival of the type Period 1975-76. 397 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:00,165 That was a little, 398 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,733 when that happens it eases a little 399 00:20:01,767 --> 00:20:03,368 and then that sort of thing brings it back 400 00:20:03,402 --> 00:20:05,070 rocking temporarily. 401 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:10,976 > 402 00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:15,113 That's as far as I know, the first club that has a major 403 00:20:15,113 --> 00:20:20,252 dances to the rhythm of the music called rock and roll, with videos. 404 00:20:20,252 --> 00:20:23,922 I think it's wonderful beautiful you hear rock and roll, 405 00:20:23,922 --> 00:20:27,559 you, there is something to see and dance floor. 406 00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:31,697 And I think that, very few people unite it together. 407 00:20:40,505 --> 00:20:42,207 ♪ ♪ 408 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,575 Be Romantic Flowers will come out 409 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:46,411 so Michael is their book at The Ritz. 410 00:20:46,445 --> 00:20:48,046 I don't think he knows, no one in the crowd knows 411 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,549 that the band it will do this 412 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:52,417 I warn him. 413 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:56,488 I say if you mess up with this screen you have to pay. 414 00:20:56,488 --> 00:20:58,924 You know, there is energy 415 00:20:58,957 --> 00:21:02,527 in that room something is down. 416 00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:05,697 Something's happening and you 417 00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:07,833 in the right place at the right time 418 00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:09,635 if you want experience it. 419 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:12,237 And finally the music starts, 420 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,940 and it's only Romantic song flowers 421 00:21:14,973 --> 00:21:18,176 only where they pound the drum and 422 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:20,545 the band behind the scenes 423 00:21:20,545 --> 00:21:22,281 and they don't exit 424 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,316 and the crowd starts getting nervous 425 00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:31,189 and the screen is down and white is clearly enemy. 426 00:21:31,189 --> 00:21:32,491 [Danny Fields ] It's a big white enemy 427 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:36,862 because it's away people, 428 00:21:36,862 --> 00:21:40,699 , celebrated Johnny Rotten who you came to see. 429 00:21:40,699 --> 00:21:41,733 Fuck PiL. 430 00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:44,002 I want to see Johnny Rotten in action. 431 00:21:44,002 --> 00:21:47,739 And kids start throwing bottles and it's bad. 432 00:21:47,739 --> 00:21:50,309 They won't appear in front of the screen. 433 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:53,045 We never, uh, < br /> is intended to play live shows. 434 00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:56,248 It was never intended. That is, video performance. 435 00:21:56,281 --> 00:21:58,216 [Antone DeSantis] They are on stage some people 436 00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:00,052 and they drag down the screen. 437 00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:02,087 The band goes. 438 00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:03,855 This is very messy. 439 00:22:03,855 --> 00:22:05,290 I don't know who gets hurt. 440 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:06,625 Security is involved, 441 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:09,594 You know how security can be involved with that kind of from events like this. 442 00:22:09,594 --> 00:22:11,096 I don't know where the band went at that time 443 00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:13,532 but I'm sure everything just wants to kill Johnny. 444 00:22:13,532 --> 00:22:18,670 Say, uh, you know, with modern comparisons I have a Bieber moment. 445 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:28,947 Everything is very, very much Film B when, when I look back. 446 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:31,917 But at the same time I look back at it right really warm. 447 00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:34,119 That, that's funny. 448 00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,456 I mean the prospect of facing that riot 449 00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:41,093 just seems honest funny to me 450 00:22:41,093 --> 00:22:44,062 And me, and I think that makes the audience laugh too. 451 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:46,264 And it becomes ridiculous, do you know? 452 00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:50,102 This is PiL, it's not my Pistol item it happens here. 453 00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:53,605 We think more in the world and, and 454 00:22:53,605 --> 00:22:55,674 be, we win, 455 00:22:55,674 --> 00:23:01,279 on the noble combination intellectualism and alcoholism. 456 00:23:02,814 --> 00:23:04,750 Hey! The drink is with me. 457 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:06,885 That's how you stop the riot. 458 00:23:07,419 --> 00:23:09,821 [Cherry Vanilla] I won't call him a fraud > like Jerry Brandt. 459 00:23:09,821 --> 00:23:12,391 But he came out to make it in the music business 460 00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:13,225 and you know that. 461 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:17,696 Really cute, and sweet, and friendly, and as enthusiastic as he is, 462 00:23:17,696 --> 00:23:21,433 she's also beautiful very aggressive. 463 00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:23,835 At some point, uh, I am ready to leave The Ritz 464 00:23:23,835 --> 00:23:26,538 and, uh, Jerry Brandt called Bob Crasnow. 465 00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:30,075 And, uh, at Elektra Records and the next thing you know, 466 00:23:30,142 --> 00:23:32,677 I got my first job as an A & R executive. 467 00:23:32,778 --> 00:23:35,113 [MICHAEL] A & R. Artists and Repertoires. 468 00:23:35,113 --> 00:23:39,317 Becoming an A & R executive is a dream job for a music fan like me. 469 00:23:39,317 --> 00:23:41,086 You do everything with artists. 470 00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:43,455 From helping them decide what songs to record, 471 00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:46,525 to recruit producers, go to the studio, 472 00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:48,593 and even work album art cover . 473 00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:50,762 I have a large expense account. 474 00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:54,599 So it's a constant party and drinks are always there with me. 475 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:57,235 But so far , the best part of A & R 476 00:23:57,269 --> 00:24:00,939 find, sign, and develop new talent. 477 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:02,908 You get paid to do what you like . 478 00:24:02,908 --> 00:24:05,444 And you have this expense account. 479 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,580 and I believe that in the beginning for both of us 480 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:11,683 there is this not guilty. 481 00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:14,052 That you are not enough realize, 482 00:24:14,052 --> 00:24:18,256 that you are not that child on the way 483 00:24:18,256 --> 00:24:21,226 it will just come out to see the band all the time. 484 00:24:22,727 --> 00:24:24,563 This is too funny. 485 00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:26,164 This is too good. 486 00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:31,803 Here we are. Uh, at 1546 62nd Street. 487 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:33,905 Houses from L & Apos; Amour's. 488 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,450 really surprised my mind, 489 00:24:45,517 --> 00:24:48,920 because I have never been to this environment in a few years. 490 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,692 You know back that day, for young bands Come and play at L & Am; Amour's, 491 00:24:53,692 --> 00:24:55,994 uh, like... 492 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:57,329 peak for them. 493 00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:59,231 They go like heaven. 494 00:24:59,231 --> 00:25:02,267 They go like heaven. 495 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,102 It's like, you know oh, the equivalent of playing, you know 496 00:25:04,102 --> 00:25:08,406 like Madison Square Garden. 497 00:25:08,406 --> 00:25:12,444 But you know what, this is a place where we are all young people, 498 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:15,947 the teenagers come to see our favorite bands 499 00:25:15,981 --> 00:25:19,885 in that place basically a small place, 500 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:21,219 and you are right in front. 501 00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:23,622 You have to see and hear everything something. 502 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,824 And the show is amazing, 503 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:28,326 You know, like CBGB in New York City, 504 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,061 uh, this is < br /> right place. 505 00:25:30,061 --> 00:25:32,130 This is the right place. 506 00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:39,371 Before we find out about Metallica, Slayer, Creator, Diamond King, 507 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:40,906 p> 508 00:25:40,906 --> 00:25:44,242 all those people. 509 00:25:44,242 --> 00:25:48,380 We listen to black Sabbath, Iron Maiden. 510 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,382 Judas - that rock and roll staples 511 00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:52,450 and that's what happened we love. 512 00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:58,490 This important little cassette came on my desk. 513 00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:01,927 I have a different memory Michael's call, again calling me, 514 00:26:01,927 --> 00:26:04,596 and say look we will go to L & Amos in Brooklyn 515 00:26:04,596 --> 00:26:06,831 and we go to go see this band Metallica 516 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:11,503 That was a Metallica demo that kids like raving about. 517 00:26:11,503 --> 00:26:14,773 But, you know, as I said, keep in mind it's a young scene. 518 00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:18,043 It's underground and it's all word of mouth. 519 00:26:18,043 --> 00:26:21,046 I mean at that point in time with the music scene happened, the heavy metal scene, 520 00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:22,480 is very interesting. 521 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,652 Because it is a bond, galvanizing it like that for that, for that generation, 522 00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:28,420 for the age group us. 523 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,956 [KURT] That is our music and that is happening. 524 00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:32,924 And that happens and people dig it up 525 00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:34,726 and there's energy and excitement. 526 00:26:34,726 --> 00:26:36,061 So here's Michael. 527 00:26:36,127 --> 00:26:40,231 August 1984. 528 00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:43,835 Um, uptown a little, 529 00:26:43,868 --> 00:26:45,604 in Roseland. 530 00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:49,941 Metallica, Raven, and Anthrax, 531 00:26:49,975 --> 00:26:54,746 um, that in um, like I said, in early August. 532 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:58,683 You know the first one our great show playing at, um, in New York 533 00:26:58,717 --> 00:27:03,555 clear Roseland an important place at that time, uh... 534 00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:05,156 And, uh, we were there. 535 00:27:05,156 --> 00:27:06,625 We playing, we were squashed. 536 00:27:06,691 --> 00:27:09,694 Anthrax opened, we were in the middle, and Raven approached. 537 00:27:09,694 --> 00:27:13,098 They, they blew Raven outside stage. 538 00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:15,734 And Anthrax is open to them. 539 00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:18,269 It's like, uh, yes. In Roseland. 540 00:27:18,269 --> 00:27:19,704 And then Burton is still alive. 541 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:22,507 Those who come to Jesus when in music when you are like, 542 00:27:22,507 --> 00:27:25,644 you are like this holy cow Damn it is very strong. 543 00:27:26,111 --> 00:27:31,549 The, you know, electricity in the air in Roseland is very high. 544 00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:32,984 It's sold out. 545 00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:35,353 None of these bands
00:27:38,023 As I said before, cassette. 547 00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:39,157 Cassette. 548 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:41,126 Uh, it's being traded. 549 00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:44,396 Homemade adventurers become unconscious seeing my band. 550 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:47,832 Children in the audience know 551 00:27:47,899 --> 00:27:50,335 they will experience something that will happen 552 00:27:50,368 --> 00:27:52,904 tore their heads. 553 00:27:53,304 --> 00:27:54,706 And that's right. 554 00:27:54,739 --> 00:27:59,344 And that was the beginning- for me early 555 00:27:59,377 --> 00:28:02,580 my true love for Metallica. 556 00:28:02,614 --> 00:28:06,317 [Kirk Hammett] I will never forget he was like literally, like being caught, 557 00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:08,486 to the room screaming at the top of his voice. 558 00:28:08,486 --> 00:28:11,489 You're great, I love you. 559 00:28:11,489 --> 00:28:13,391 He hugs us, kisses us, you know. 560 00:28:13,391 --> 00:28:15,694 And we go Michael, yeah Michael. 561 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,462 Yes, Michael. 562 00:28:17,462 --> 00:28:22,967 And, you know, that was before, it was really the beginning of— from that relationship 563 00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:28,373 Really, that night, like the launch pad. 564 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:32,177 You know I'm very happy that Alago appeared to see us alive. 565 00:28:32,177 --> 00:28:37,082 My point is, that is... That,... 566 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:40,085 You know me, if you are a musician, 567 00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:41,786 you can to be amazing in the studio, 568 00:28:41,853 --> 00:28:43,755 you can do it all these amazing things. 569 00:28:43,755 --> 00:28:46,825 But until I see someone alive... 570 00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:49,661 Michael is 21 years old. 571 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:51,463 And they made him an A & R. 572 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:53,031 And he took them Metallica 573 00:28:53,064 --> 00:28:55,066 one of the biggest names all the time. 574 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,167 Plus another group. 575 00:28:56,201 --> 00:28:57,502 But Metallica. 576 00:28:57,535 --> 00:29:01,206 I can feel that something very is happening here. 577 00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:05,343 Uh, because they brought punk and metal together. 578 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,345 And, uh, 579 00:29:07,812 --> 00:29:10,682 Great people and Michael hit him with them 580 00:29:10,715 --> 00:29:12,817 and, uh, I remember hanging out with them. 581 00:29:12,817 --> 00:29:15,086 They were right really, is really down to earth. 582 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,622 One of them specifically, Cliff, who, you know, 583 00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,391 is pretty sad, you know, < br /> isn't here anymore, 584 00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,093 is rather good like a hippie. 585 00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:24,295 I remember talking to him about music on L; Amour 586 00:29:24,295 --> 00:29:26,831 and he told me how much he was 587 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:31,236 Simon & Garfunkel and thing singer songwriter and I like, 588 00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:33,872 wow, how amazing is this fricking ? 589 00:29:33,872 --> 00:29:37,175 It's like, these people are right really like music, 590 00:29:37,175 --> 00:29:42,046 and they not only like it, you know, thrash metal and punk. 591 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:44,048 They become many different music. 592 00:29:44,048 --> 00:29:47,318 [Lars Ulrich] You know, there is a parallel because, you know, Michael Alago 593 00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:53,124 is an outsider in the main type of environment. 594 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:56,427 and we always consider ourselves to be outsiders, 595 00:29:56,427 --> 00:30:01,399 in a sort of potentially, you know, the main environment 596 00:30:01,399 --> 00:30:03,134 and in some ways you can argue, 597 00:30:03,168 --> 00:30:04,869 maybe it's not clear at that time, 598 00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:08,139 but you can argue that we are perfect for each other, you know? 599 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:10,074 Yes, we were there MegaForce Records. 600 00:30:10,074 --> 00:30:14,179 Eh, with Johnny Zazula and his wife, 601 00:30:14,179 --> 00:30:15,713 and... 602 00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:21,252 they pretty much took us to our place at that time. 603 00:30:21,252 --> 00:30:23,555 Not them couldn't take us further, 604 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:26,024 um, but this is chance. 605 00:30:26,024 --> 00:30:29,394 And I'm sure they know this will come at some point, 606 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:30,628 um, 607 00:30:30,628 --> 00:30:32,497 and that you know, 608 00:30:32,497 --> 00:30:35,266 You, you help the baby grow up. 609 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:38,736 And at some point will walk alone and you wave goodbye. 610 00:30:38,736 --> 00:30:42,440 Broadly speaking, is really like, is that possible? 611 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,575 and we don't know, 612 00:30:43,575 --> 00:30:46,544 what is it possible to be on the big label 613 00:30:46,544 --> 00:30:48,146 without feeling like you sell out? 614 00:30:48,146 --> 00:30:51,516 Is it possible related to the big label 615 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:53,585 and feel that you still have it 616 00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:55,653 the freedom to be who you want to be, 617 00:30:55,653 --> 00:30:57,322 you know and the like play with your rules alone. 618 00:30:57,322 --> 00:30:59,991 [James Hetfield] Alago takes us to a new world 619 00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,060 Elektra Records, main labels and, 620 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,061 and that is a game. 621 00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:07,799 That's wow, okay we got this tour now and, 622 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,769 , you know, plus that day was very big. 623 00:31:11,769 --> 00:31:13,638 [Kirk Hammett] He has a vision for us that 624 00:31:13,638 --> 00:31:17,642 I don't think we certainly aware. 625 00:31:17,642 --> 00:31:19,944 Yes, when we send < br /> Mastermind 626 00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:23,114 is big enough things for, for everyone. 627 00:31:23,114 --> 00:31:25,183 Michael is very excited. 628 00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:30,054 I think what applies sort of, that thought, is that, 629 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:33,858 you know, we have do something it will, will 630 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:37,562 really just put us on the map and that, that, 631 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:40,331 it will happen speak for us for years to come. 632 00:31:40,531 --> 00:31:45,003 Small gay men from New York City 633 00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:50,742 signs, at that time,
00:31:53,978 uh, breakthrough band in Metallica. 635 00:31:53,978 --> 00:31:59,284 And then obviously White Zombies later in his career and what who doesn't. 636 00:31:59,517 --> 00:32:03,454 For me it only shows once again, 637 00:32:03,454 --> 00:32:06,157 no matter who you are, 638 00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:09,160 in your personal life and whatever you do with it, 639 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,164 It makes no difference if you are a music fan. 640 00:32:13,231 --> 00:32:17,468 [John Lydon] I mean who will think, an open man will be uh, 641 00:32:17,502 --> 00:32:21,472 really run heavy metal bands 642 00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:24,208 this decade, at that time? 643 00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:26,210 Fantastic. That managed to cure. 644 00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:28,579 And uh, and they all are still friends. 645 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,882 I think everything how to live, 646 00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:33,551 the situation that happened and works well 647 00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:36,254 are people which you least expect. 648 00:32:36,254 --> 00:32:39,724 And so the event alignment on paper 649 00:32:39,724 --> 00:32:42,927 will look, uh, like no hoper. 650 00:32:42,927 --> 00:32:44,062 But that's how it is. 651 00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:48,399 [Mike Gitter] I think, you know, for example that Michael provided 652 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,768 You can, you can take something, 653 00:32:50,768 --> 00:32:54,238 which is in it, in the universe itself and that is its own culture 654 00:32:54,272 --> 00:32:57,842 and no, there is no need must fit in every red box. 655 00:32:57,842 --> 00:33:03,147 Uh, and that can be, You know that can happen main stream. 656 00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:21,766 Here we are in West Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard. 657 00:33:21,766 --> 00:33:24,235 I stood up in the corner of Carol Drive. 658 00:33:24,235 --> 00:33:28,673 Uh, home of the uh, former home Geffen Records, 9130 Sunset. 659 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:32,143 This whole block, this bungalow series 660 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,012 from Carol to Doheny 661 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,613 is a record company. 662 00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:39,417 I arrived here in 1990, uh, to start working. 663 00:33:39,417 --> 00:33:42,286 and the first band I signed was White Zombie. 664 00:33:42,286 --> 00:33:46,958 Uh, when we got Cher, Weapon and Rose, Beck, 665 00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:49,293 White Snakes, Sonic Youth, 666 00:33:49,293 --> 00:33:54,999 uh, that is confusion extraordinary creativity, activity, 667 00:33:54,999 --> 00:33:58,169 um, almost like that we can't do anything wrong. 668 00:33:58,169 --> 00:34:01,139 [Sean Yseult] White Zombies Both have been at Caroline Records, and um, 669 00:34:01,172 --> 00:34:03,041 we feel like everyone around us 670 00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:05,543 it has been signed to the current department 671 00:34:05,576 --> 00:34:08,312 and, and it might be we can, which one, 672 00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:10,314 is a bit outrageous we think that 'cause, 673 00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:12,283 we are not commercial in any way, 674 00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:14,152 or the main label material. 675 00:34:14,152 --> 00:34:17,989 But we just feel like, You know, we've been working hard for four years 676 00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:20,458 and maybe, you know, we can jump there. 677 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:22,660 I don't know as soon as possible /> we start thinking about it, 678 00:34:22,660 --> 00:34:25,363 suddenly somehow we connected with RCA Records 679 00:34:25,363 --> 00:34:30,201 and MCA Records and people started asking us to meet and uh , 680 00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:32,937 we met with them but we don't feel right about them. 681 00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:35,873 Like, they will— like, we go in there and
suddenly they are like, 682 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:37,675 "Oh White Zombie is really street. " 683 00:34:37,708 --> 00:34:40,878 You know? Like ugh, that god doesn't sound good. 684 00:34:40,878 --> 00:34:43,514 [Daniel Rey] I did God of Thunder EP 685 00:34:43,548 --> 00:34:45,283 and that sort of thing bridging between the old 686 00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:46,684 Noisy White Zombies 687 00:34:46,717 --> 00:34:49,487 and a little more mainstream rock. 688 00:34:49,487 --> 00:34:51,756 and we play around with the sampler, 689 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,425 You know, that is the initial days of sampling. 690 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:58,563 Where you can release the sound from the movie and put it in your item. 691 00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:00,031 So Rob is interested in that, 692 00:35:00,031 --> 00:35:02,300 and we throw
power sample in song. 693 00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:04,535 Just a kind of foresight, from what will happen. 694 00:35:04,535 --> 00:35:06,904 I tried to bring it to RCA, 695 00:35:06,904 --> 00:35:09,307 with Circus of Power and Raging Slab. 696 00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:13,611 But um, I know that RCA is not a good house for them. 697 00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:17,715 So I'm kind of fair go through the movement take them to RCA. 698 00:35:17,715 --> 00:35:21,152 Where, really Alago in Geffen is where they need to go. 699 00:35:21,819 --> 00:35:25,590 Geffen. That's a cool label, you know, they, they just signed, uh, 700 00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,758 Sonic and Nirvana Youth and, 701 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:30,895 you know , they have very good Weapons and Roses , 702 00:35:30,928 --> 00:35:34,532 we are very excited to meet this guy from Geffen and uh, 703 00:35:34,565 --> 00:35:37,235 Daniel really took him to one of our shows at that time 704 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:39,937 which one, um, is a place called 428 Lafayette 705 00:35:39,937 --> 00:35:44,175 or it's Club 428, or 428 Lafayette, which is the address. 706 00:35:44,175 --> 00:35:47,378 In the corner, behind, in the dark 707 00:35:47,378 --> 00:35:51,649 are these four young men making noise. 708 00:35:51,649 --> 00:35:52,884 It's noise. 709 00:35:52,884 --> 00:35:55,820 I don't think they are, you know, I don't hear songs. 710 00:35:55,820 --> 00:36:01,726 But, what I see is this um, 711 00:36:01,726 --> 00:36:05,897 crazy wild charisma which I feel from them. 712 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:07,498 They shake. 713 00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:09,300 It's noisy. 714 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,937 As I said, I don't remember them < br /> become a song, 715 00:36:12,970 --> 00:36:16,607 but for me at that time, 716 00:36:16,641 --> 00:36:19,744 being a young A & R person in the music business, 717 00:36:19,777 --> 00:36:22,246 uh, I like energy. 718 00:36:22,246 --> 00:36:26,284 I can care if a song will be played < br /> on the radio or whatever. 719 00:36:26,284 --> 00:36:29,353 I just like this noisy energy. 720 00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:34,125 Michael can see that art in something even if it's fair /> chaos for others. 721 00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:35,326 He can see what can happen. 722 00:36:35,326 --> 00:36:36,160 Because of that - 723 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:39,497 Whatever we become, whatever we become successful for, 724 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:42,033 we have very little besides than 725 00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:43,868 someone enters go, Wow, what they do 726 00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:45,369 no one else does it. " 727 00:36:45,436 --> 00:36:48,339 And they have some rough versions of from the complete package. 728 00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:50,341 Maksud saya, Anda tahu, itu cukup mentah. 729 00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:52,777 But that's the key to be a great A & R man. 730 00:36:52,777 --> 00:36:54,845 After being polished everyone can see it. 731 00:36:54,845 --> 00:36:56,347 You should see when it's raw, 732 00:36:56,347 --> 00:36:58,783 you must be the person who signed it when no one else wanted it. 733 00:36:58,783 --> 00:37:00,017 And that's what he did. 734 00:37:00,017 --> 00:37:01,719 It's wild, I like it. 735 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,287 I think it's amazing. 736 00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:07,658 And when they get out of the stage, you know, dreadlocks are depending on everywhere 737 00:37:07,658 --> 00:37:14,265 Rob and uh, they are the funniest, most beautiful people I've ever met. 738 00:37:14,298 --> 00:37:15,900 I remember it clearly. 739 00:37:15,933 --> 00:37:18,903 Looks like we have like one song he likes. 740 00:37:18,936 --> 00:37:20,538 And I don't even know if he likes the whole song. 741 00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:24,342 We have one riff from one song he will always talk about. 742 00:37:24,342 --> 00:37:26,744 And it looks like he signed us alone based on that. 743 00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:28,646 Literally just based on that. 744 00:37:28,646 --> 00:37:30,915 For me that is the sign like, A & R. 745 00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,951 Do, experience that, you know, that sense of vision. 746 00:37:33,951 --> 00:37:38,155 See something that isn't, You know, it's not formed to - 747 00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:42,493 it's the best zygote, and you know, 748 00:37:42,526 --> 00:37:47,498 see, you know, while you see it the embers are like a fan become hell. 749 00:37:47,632 --> 00:37:51,869 Once again his honest and brutal love for music, 750 00:37:51,869 --> 00:37:58,876 uh, not only shines, but also, looking inside < br /> the future too 751 00:37:58,876 --> 00:38:01,646 which is an extraordinary gift, really. 752 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:02,713 [Sean Yseult] A little dangerous. 753 00:38:02,747 --> 00:38:05,149 Sesuatu itu sedikit berbahaya saat itu. 754 00:38:05,182 --> 00:38:07,518 Which one, you know, we like and, and uh, 755 00:38:07,518 --> 00:38:09,887 he really really likes our drummer. 756 00:38:09,887 --> 00:38:14,258 Um, we have, a big muscular tattoo, cute, 757 00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:17,695 he's still tall a school drummer who is uh, 758 00:38:17,762 --> 00:38:19,563 the Alago is called Sweet Ivan. 759 00:38:20,431 --> 00:38:22,099 "Oh, sweet Ivan." 760 00:38:22,099 --> 00:38:23,334 "Oh, sweet Ivan." 761 00:38:23,367 --> 00:38:27,672 And um, I don't know, I always thank God, You know, Ivan is in our band 762 00:38:27,672 --> 00:38:30,274 or we may never have signed for Geffen. 763 00:38:30,274 --> 00:38:32,176 I am a gay recording executive. 764 00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:34,412 Remembering, I like heavy metals. 765 00:38:34,412 --> 00:38:38,115 I like noise. I like... I like... 766 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:39,483 I like sweat . 767 00:38:39,483 --> 00:38:43,754 I like it when I go to a concert, 99% of people there. 768 00:38:43,788 --> 00:38:45,256 I mean why, why isn't he? 769 00:38:45,289 --> 00:38:46,590 I mean, what is he, what will he love? 770 00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,926 You go to the show and it's like, you know, 771 00:38:48,959 --> 00:38:50,828 a bunch of jacked up people on steroids 772 00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:53,164 with their clothes hit nonsense with each other. 773 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:54,031 He is in heaven. 774 00:38:54,031 --> 00:38:56,467 [MICHAEL] Never exist nickname. 775 00:38:56,500 --> 00:39:00,871 Um, but always, you know what I always do that thought uh , 776 00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:04,241 if the right word is funny, is uh, keep in mind, 777 00:39:04,241 --> 00:39:06,110 all the people come to see me 778 00:39:06,143 --> 00:39:09,013 as A & R executives at Elektra or Geffen, 779 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,182 know like, oh, Alago likes metal. 780 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:12,249 He signed Metallica. 781 00:39:12,249 --> 00:39:13,351 He signed the Metal Church. 782 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:14,285 He signed Flotsam. 783 00:39:14,285 --> 00:39:16,120 Dia bekerja dengan George Lynch. 784 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,222 So, you know, in a strange way, 785 00:39:18,222 --> 00:39:22,259 young people that you might think are homophobic 786 00:39:22,259 --> 00:39:24,929 have to get ready with me, 787 00:39:24,929 --> 00:39:27,865 because, I don't want to think stick with me or tolerate, 788 00:39:27,865 --> 00:39:30,434 because I hate those words, because I hate being tolerated, 789 00:39:30,468 --> 00:39:32,503 The reason is always one want to be respected. 790 00:39:32,503 --> 00:39:35,172 But those young people have to face me 791 00:39:35,172 --> 00:39:38,209 because I'm the person they will come for recording contracts. 792 00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:42,646 And I think that The beauty of all that is that 793 00:39:43,247 --> 00:39:46,617 they might not ever meet a gay
00:39:49,420 and everything that they can come to my office 795 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:53,057 and we can sit behind closed doors and listen to very loud music 796 00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:54,725 and they can Play me their demo 797 00:39:54,759 --> 00:39:58,362 and they see that, "Oh, you know, that guy is cool. " 798 00:39:58,362 --> 00:40:00,898 and they will do it maybe leave my office 799 00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:05,503 with a different perspective from what is meant by gay. 800 00:40:05,536 --> 00:40:07,071 That makes it stand out 801 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:11,075 among many... all other recording industries that person, 802 00:40:11,108 --> 00:40:15,279 , it will, that we come to meet over a period of time. 803 00:40:15,279 --> 00:40:18,682 Michael stands out, in that way 804 00:40:18,682 --> 00:40:25,256 maybe, you know, the perspective is different because, from, from he, his sexuality. 805 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:31,228 Maybe he stands out, in that way, uh, in, a, a, really like, 806 00:40:31,228 --> 00:40:34,832 I hate to say it , sort of homophobic, uh, genre. 807 00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:37,701 He is brave enough to stand there and, and be honest 808 00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:39,670 and feel comfortable with who he is. 809 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:43,841 But that's quite ironic how is it all, you know, hardcore stuff 810 00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:47,077 and all metal objects tough macho people and then, 811 00:40:47,077 --> 00:40:50,448 you know, this is Michael , and everyone hugs him. 812 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:55,386 Fantastic. You, you, you must do it knowing that those people are fully themselves 813 00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:57,021 and merge with themselves, 814 00:40:57,021 --> 00:40:59,690 is the easiest person in the world to hang out with. 815 00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:02,059 And I think that, uh, that's how we work. 816 00:41:02,059 --> 00:41:03,794 Because as friends. 817 00:41:03,794 --> 00:41:07,298 Because there are, there is no hidden agenda. 818 00:41:07,364 --> 00:41:08,199 Fantastic. 819 00:41:08,265 --> 00:41:10,134 And, and for that he doesn't need to lie. 820 00:41:10,201 --> 00:41:11,469 Dan dia tidak. 821 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,839 To this day, I tell you, I don't know any lies he once said. 822 00:41:14,839 --> 00:41:17,508 There might be some out there to oppose me. 823 00:41:17,508 --> 00:41:20,611 But I would be more likely thought they were lying. 824 00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:24,215 I have to say that, you know, grew up very sheltered place 825 00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,784 in a church family while still a child in Michigan. 826 00:41:26,784 --> 00:41:28,486 We came on a farm and everything. 827 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,788 I never exposed to all this kind of thing. 828 00:41:30,788 --> 00:41:33,924 Alternative lifestyles that come as a teenager from the 70s. 829 00:41:33,924 --> 00:41:36,126 I have never been right- really understand exposed to most of it at all. 830 00:41:36,126 --> 00:41:39,296 After time passed and I looked back and saw what brother, 831 00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:42,867 friends of my brothers, which are gay or different things like this 832 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:46,770 I realize that now as, or when I finally < br /> think about those things. 833 00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:50,140 But Michael, um, that's one of the things we did know about him right away. 834 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:53,244 That's wrong only that people will tell you about him or whatever. 835 00:41:53,244 --> 00:41:55,279 So, for me it's new. 836 00:41:55,713 --> 00:41:58,582 [Jason Newsted] That's part of that and that's intact, I mean in the world, 837 00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:01,752 You know the cause you have to think about it I am in Flotsam 838 00:42:01,752 --> 00:42:04,121 as long as a few years like we got an agreement and all that. 839 00:42:04,121 --> 00:42:06,123 Halloween year & apos; 86 was the last show I did with Flotsam. 840 00:42:06,123 --> 00:42:08,759 Loading my own SVT to my truck, back home. 841 00:42:08,759 --> 00:42:11,395 10 days later I played sold out Budokan with Metallica. 842 00:42:11,395 --> 00:42:14,999 I never did anything about traveling the country side playing the show. 843 00:42:14,999 --> 00:42:18,736 I only played on, in Arizona and California 844 00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,272 at that time I joined Metallica. 845 00:42:21,272 --> 00:42:24,508 So my exposure to things Things, it's all very fast. 846 00:42:24,508 --> 00:42:26,877 That's a lot of whirlwind. After I joined Metallica, 847 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,579 started traveling around the world, 848 00:42:28,612 --> 00:42:29,914 everything is new to me. 849 00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:33,350 When we meet, you know, I mean, you know, Clearly Michael gay 850 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,486 because he was found flamboyant that way. 851 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:42,192 Dan uh, dan ketika saya pergi, “Oh wow, ini hampir seperti Saya memiliki sekutu. ” 852 00:42:42,192 --> 00:42:43,994 You know because the rest of the people in the bad know me, 853 00:42:43,994 --> 00:42:46,063 I always basically come out, but 854 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:49,133 in my circles but never come out publicly or whatever 855 00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:50,568 because I never felt who needed 856 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:52,403 or whose business even for that. 857 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:56,607 But met Michael, and in that case, then 858 00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:59,543 when I told him I was gay, 859 00:42:59,543 --> 00:43:01,679 You know, it's one of those moments, like 860 00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:02,580 really? 861 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:05,282 You know, you're in the band and you play guitar in a metal band 862 00:43:05,282 --> 00:43:06,150 and you, you know, 863 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:09,053 if I am a singer or something maybe, you know, it will - 864 00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:11,188 Because you know, like, Rob Halford, Freddie Mercury, 865 00:43:11,221 --> 00:43:12,456 and all that there is something there. 866 00:43:12,489 --> 00:43:15,092 But, so we immediately become good friends 867 00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:17,928 and are friends for years the year since then and that is 868 00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:19,129 maybe why. 869 00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:22,032 I have seen it hanged your hardest people, 870 00:43:22,066 --> 00:43:23,467 you look the wrong way, 871 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:25,803 You end up on the river in New York City. 872 00:43:25,803 --> 00:43:27,104 They will separate you. 873 00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:30,908 And who is ahead and in the middle of talking to these people about music? 874 00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:32,676 Similarity. Michael Alago. 875 00:43:32,676 --> 00:43:34,445 You know we went to /> lots of events together. 876 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,880 But it's always like that Cro-Mags or whatever. 877 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,882 [Rob Zombie] So we will be on some shows. 878 00:43:38,882 --> 00:43:41,685 Some small clubs just because he likes Cro-Mags. 879 00:43:41,685 --> 00:43:43,520 For them they are next Metallica. 880 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,592 And it's nothing like the dirtiest, nastiest, cruelest looking for skinheads everywhere 881 00:43:48,592 --> 00:43:51,729 and Michael without hesitation will always show 882 00:43:51,729 --> 00:43:55,833 the biggest, looks cruel, tattooed skinhead he can find, 883 00:43:55,833 --> 00:43:58,869 is fixated on him like, "That's my boyfriend for the night this. " 884 00:43:58,869 --> 00:44:00,771 I like, " Please don't do this. " 885 00:44:00,771 --> 00:44:01,839 " You will get you killed. " 886 00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:03,407 But I somehow know he won't do it. 887 00:44:04,341 --> 00:44:06,777 And he will get lost in the crowd, I will lose him, 888 00:44:06,777 --> 00:44:07,478 I'll go home. 889 00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:10,948 The next time I talk to him he will show up, go like, 890 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:13,283 You know, relate, link the story 891 00:44:13,317 --> 00:44:15,653 how everything works the way he wants it to work 892 00:44:15,686 --> 00:44:18,822 that night with anything, You know, maniac he found 893 00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:21,759 and of course always has Polaroid to prove it and only him, 894 00:44:21,759 --> 00:44:23,794 how many times that he did that extraordinary. 895 00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:28,666 He was always involved with the people who were in it and real about things that. 896 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,668 You know when he saw Cro-Mags 897 00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:34,204 despite the history of from the band and everything any nonsense. 898 00:44:34,204 --> 00:44:38,242 Nobody can say in the 80s when you came to see Cro-Mags 899 00:44:38,242 --> 00:44:41,578 that we didn't use a painful show 900 00:44:41,578 --> 00:44:45,883 And we're all about that, and leave everything on stage every damn night. 901 00:44:45,883 --> 00:44:47,351 S why he likes Cro-Mags . 902 00:44:47,351 --> 00:44:48,886 Same as Metallica. 903 00:44:48,886 --> 00:44:51,555 Same as, you know, all the bands that work with it. 904 00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:56,393 Rob Zombie or all the bands, You know, like I said he ran away Fan club Dead Boys. 905 00:44:56,393 --> 00:44:58,629 Anyone who sees Dead Boys knows them, 906 00:44:58,629 --> 00:45:00,664 they use an amazing show. 907 00:45:00,998 --> 00:45:03,300 [Cyndi Lauper] With Michael, it's not like that 908 00:45:03,333 --> 00:45:06,170 Michael ever wanted it to tell me 909 00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:08,605 You have to sound like this or you have to be heard like that. 910 00:45:08,605 --> 00:45:13,210 Michael's one comment always saying to me is 911 00:45:13,210 --> 00:45:14,945 You have to speak like yourself. 912 00:45:14,978 --> 00:45:16,380 It doesn't right sounds like you, 913 00:45:16,413 --> 00:45:17,915 can anyone. 914 00:45:18,182 --> 00:45:21,518 And that sort of thing resonates. 915 00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:25,989 And it's difficult because sometimes you want to rather lose yourself and grow. 916 00:45:26,623 --> 00:45:32,362 But there's always being the way you can lose yourself and grow 917 00:45:32,362 --> 00:45:34,231 and still sound like you. 918 00:45:35,032 --> 00:45:37,000 And I think that the trick, isn't it? 919 00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:39,002 And that's why you need people like Michael. 920 00:45:39,002 --> 00:45:41,872 So basically you run the whole rock star life. 921 00:45:41,872 --> 00:45:45,976 Like you do a lot of things you have to do it like
00:45:47,911 RnB, it's running all over with you. 923 00:45:47,911 --> 00:45:50,280 So it's like you wear lots of hats for you time in the industry music. 924 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,516 Yes I have done it. Um, but that's fine. 925 00:45:52,516 --> 00:45:56,053 I mean, this is a good time and there are so many incredible music out there, 926 00:45:56,086 --> 00:45:58,455 and I never want it just categorized as this, 927 00:45:58,489 --> 00:46:00,657 oh he is the person you are going to for heavy metals. 928 00:46:00,657 --> 00:46:01,725 But me. 929 00:46:01,725 --> 00:46:04,261 Um, but as I said I only like music. 930 00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:07,297 So, I like the various ones artists that work with me. 931 00:46:07,297 --> 00:46:09,933 Is that Johnny Rotten from Public image Limited, 932 00:46:09,967 --> 00:46:12,770 or A & Ring for a Tracey Chapman Album... 933 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:16,406 Now, talking about what best, You know, legendary status Nina Simone... 934 00:46:16,406 --> 00:46:19,042 [Michael] Oh Nina Simone. She's like my idol. 935 00:46:19,076 --> 00:46:21,411 Uh, Nina Simone is great in Michael's life. 936 00:46:21,411 --> 00:46:25,616 Um, he talked about it all the time for me and my mother. 937 00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,251 Um, who is he 938 00:46:27,284 --> 00:46:28,452 Take a photo with him, 939 00:46:28,485 --> 00:46:31,655 what he meant for him, uh, yeah big. 940 00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:38,028 He was certifiably crazy and couldn't be arranged by anyone. 941 00:46:38,562 --> 00:46:40,631 He was brilliant. 942 00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:42,199 He's a genius. 943 00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:47,371 He entered the top ten important vocalists in singer history. 944 00:46:47,371 --> 00:46:50,874 So when I get this wind, that she has Nina. 945 00:46:50,874 --> 00:46:52,810 I, I can't even believe it. 946 00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:54,378 [Cherry Vanilla] Nina Simone? 947 00:46:54,411 --> 00:46:58,816 It's like producing God, You know, I mean. 948 00:46:58,849 --> 00:47:00,617 Nina, Michael is producing? 949 00:47:00,617 --> 00:47:03,887 As much as I think about Michael, lots of things. 950 00:47:03,887 --> 00:47:08,225 You know, Michael first Metallica and David Bowie, and all that sort of thing 951 00:47:08,225 --> 00:47:09,793 but Nina Simone? 952 00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:11,261 ♪ Go to any place ♪ 953 00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:13,130 ♪ To every belief ♪ 954 00:47:13,197 --> 00:47:15,299 ♪ To anyone ♪ 955 00:47:15,332 --> 00:47:17,167 ♪ For every belief ♪ 956 00:47:17,768 --> 00:47:19,937 ♪ For any hope ♪ 957 00:47:20,270 --> 00:47:23,173 ♪ For... anything ♪ 958 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,043 ♪ I know how it feels ♪ 959 00:47:26,076 --> 00:47:32,349 ♪ To be free ♪ 960 00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:40,891 [loud applause] 961 00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:49,399 Yes. Money.
People like to make money 962 00:47:49,399 --> 00:47:52,502 and Michael has been involved in many things commercial things. 963 00:47:52,502 --> 00:47:54,738 But when he is 964 00:47:54,738 --> 00:47:57,941 really to Nina— Nina Simone's work 965 00:47:57,941 --> 00:47:59,610 and working with Nina Simone. 966 00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,211 I-it's not about money. 967 00:48:01,211 --> 00:48:03,981 It's about pure art, 968 00:48:03,981 --> 00:48:06,917 it's about loving art. 969 00:48:06,917 --> 00:48:10,721 And Michael likes things he likes. 970 00:48:10,721 --> 00:48:14,825 [Dito Montiel] There is a Nina Simone song called "Everything Must Change" 971 00:48:14,825 --> 00:48:18,562 and inside it is- he is locked in the live version. 972 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:19,263 Ah! 973 00:48:19,263 --> 00:48:21,098 And he used to show me that. 974 00:48:21,098 --> 00:48:23,834 He plays it, he will play it snap repeatedly. 975 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:24,601 [Dito locked] 976 00:48:24,668 --> 00:48:27,971 And he really likes it and, and, and it sounds crazy 977 00:48:28,005 --> 00:48:30,974 but as an artist, you know, I will relate. 978 00:48:31,041 --> 00:48:33,176 Like, like that, you hear that magic. 979 00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:36,546 Like whoa, like, like, he will sign Nina Simone 980 00:48:36,546 --> 00:48:38,081 if he does that. 981 00:48:38,081 --> 00:48:38,949 You know what I mean? 982 00:48:39,016 --> 00:48:41,985 Like oh, who cares if he does a great version from here comes the sun. 983 00:48:41,985 --> 00:48:43,287 Snap it, you know? 984 00:48:43,287 --> 00:48:47,357 Nina Simone < br /> by someone else's standards, 985 00:48:47,357 --> 00:48:51,328 or by many people standard, it's finished. 986 00:48:51,328 --> 00:48:53,397 But Michael has another idea. 987 00:48:54,064 --> 00:48:57,067 Our journey has brought us here to Hollywood, California. 988 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,403 Uh, specifically for Franklin Avenue, 989 00:48:59,469 --> 00:49:01,605 where my friends Nina Simone lived 990 00:49:01,605 --> 00:49:07,144 for years in the 80s, 90s, uh, until she graduated in 2003. 991 00:49:07,144 --> 00:49:10,847 I will come and visit it here every time I come to California. 992 00:49:10,847 --> 00:49:14,418 And especially because we will make notes. 993 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:17,587 And there are two albums that we referenced a lot. 994 00:49:17,587 --> 00:49:19,823 Billie Holiday & apos; s Lady in Satin, 995 00:49:19,823 --> 00:49:22,559 and uh, Frank Sinatra A man himself. 996 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:26,797 He wants to make this note about love and loneliness and loss 997 00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:28,966 It's drama all the time. 998 00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:32,703 But I lit that fire < br /> with him because I only love him very much. 999 00:49:32,736 --> 00:49:36,273 and I think, um, we get along well because he knows how much 1000 00:49:36,306 --> 00:49:38,442 I love him, respect him, and the music. 1001 00:49:38,475 --> 00:49:40,577 And we really made a remarkable note. 1002 00:49:40,577 --> 00:49:43,947 Little did we know at that time was making A Single Woman 1003 00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,950 that it will be the last for Nina full-length recording. 1004 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:50,654 Uh, we managed recordings around '93, 1005 00:49:50,654 --> 00:49:53,223 and she endorsed in 2003. 1006 00:49:53,223 --> 00:49:57,794 and, um, but the wonderful thing about the music 1007 00:49:57,794 --> 00:49:59,830 is that it really lives. 1008 00:49:59,896 --> 00:50:02,232 because we have this beautiful station today, 1009 00:50:02,299 --> 00:50:05,635 like Pandora, uh and people like them, 1010 00:50:05,702 --> 00:50:07,871 and uh, I always hear his voice. 1011 00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:10,607 So, the spirit is fair always in the air 1012 00:50:10,607 --> 00:50:14,111 and I like that and I feel it all the time, 1013 00:50:14,111 --> 00:50:16,580 and, uh, he will never leave me. 1014 00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:18,548 I like that, huh. 1015 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:34,598 > 1016 00:51:08,865 --> 00:51:11,034 ♪♪ 1017 00:51:11,468 --> 00:51:12,402 Oh this is broken. 1018 00:51:13,537 --> 00:51:16,206 Hmm 1019 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:18,375 Oh, this isn't visible, this doesn't look broken. 1020 00:51:19,142 --> 00:51:20,243 Oh cool. 1021 00:51:20,877 --> 00:51:24,915 Good morning. 1022 00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:27,851 It's around 7am and I'm on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. 1023 00:51:27,884 --> 00:51:32,456 Look at the worst drink and anesthetize. 1024 00:51:32,522 --> 00:51:34,925 Obviously you are at the bar and you drink. 1025 00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:37,127 You are hanging out enough on these places, 1026 00:51:37,127 --> 00:51:38,895 you start know the bartenders. 1027 00:51:38,895 --> 00:51:40,797 They give you free drinks. 1028 00:51:40,864 --> 00:51:44,835 You hang out with the band. 1029 00:51:44,868 --> 00:51:47,537 You know, and what I mean by that like, you know, 1030 00:51:47,571 --> 00:51:50,807 from, from musicians to managers 1031 00:51:50,874 --> 00:51:54,344 to, crew road to record company people. 1032 00:51:54,344 --> 00:51:57,280 You know, whoever is involved and, 1033 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,784 and it's hidden that, celebration 1034 00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:04,187 What is truly fair the music industry itself. 1035 00:52:04,187 --> 00:52:06,890 Is the cause of enough for a celebration. 1036 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:10,026 All people get little rumors that part of the program 1037 00:52:10,026 --> 00:52:11,595 at that age, so, 1038 00:52:11,661 --> 00:52:13,630 for that scene, at that time, 1039 00:52:13,763 --> 00:52:15,031 it is things that develop. 1040 00:52:15,065 --> 00:52:17,701 Everyone gets a buzz to increase whatever it is, 1041 00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:19,202 madness is ongoing. 1042 00:52:19,202 --> 00:52:21,571 So, it's beautiful widely accepted. 1043 00:52:21,571 --> 00:52:23,740 If it's true Damage in our band. 1044 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:26,376 That damages many of those bands we see through time, 1045 00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:27,511 you know , like, that kind of thing. 1046 00:52:27,511 --> 00:52:30,981 But um, that's only part of from the program for sure. 1047 00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:34,184 I know that there is certain things when I got into the band, 1048 00:52:34,184 --> 00:52:35,519 that I had to hold mine 1049 00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:37,988 when I arrived at it to be in the band. 1050 00:52:37,988 --> 00:52:41,191 Complete this, and we will see if you can survive with us. 1051 00:52:41,191 --> 00:52:43,827 It's like this the whole mentality and, 1052 00:52:44,194 --> 00:52:49,633 God, Michael must be, uh, enough to drink for all of us, 1053 00:52:49,633 --> 00:52:52,169 uh, quite anesthetized for all of us, 1054 00:52:52,202 --> 00:52:55,739 and all the other items that are in line with that 1055 00:52:55,739 --> 00:53:00,343 I think we all grew up like that. 1056 00:53:00,343 --> 00:53:05,515 We, this is like this rebellious attitude, 1057 00:53:05,515 --> 00:53:08,018 it's dark, the bad side. 1058 00:53:08,018 --> 00:53:10,020 [Kurdy Vanderhoof] Cause when you're young and you're in a rock band 1059 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:11,788 and you go on the street for the first time 1060 00:53:11,788 --> 00:53:14,124 and you have read Circus Magazine and all yours 1061 00:53:14,124 --> 00:53:18,195 you know, all your heroes < br /> drug addicts and alcoholics 1062 00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:19,763 and you also want to do it. 1063 00:53:19,763 --> 00:53:20,897 I'll tell you this. 1064 00:53:20,897 --> 00:53:24,367 Throughout the 90's was Pantera, 1065 00:53:24,401 --> 00:53:26,803 everything is about drinking. 1066 00:53:26,803 --> 00:53:28,071 Everything. 1067 00:53:28,104 --> 00:53:31,408 I'm doing cocaine, I'm doing ecstasy, 1068 00:53:31,474 --> 00:53:34,377 Um, then, it's just bad. 1069 00:53:34,377 --> 00:53:36,613 I remember we ran out of cocaine one night, 1070 00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:38,848 and it was like 2 o'clock, At 3 am, 1071 00:53:38,848 --> 00:53:42,819 and we will shoot Harlem on 150 Street 1072 00:53:42,819 --> 00:53:46,089 and like, choose like crazy maniacs 1073 00:53:46,089 --> 00:53:49,226 and take 8 balls at 4 am 1074 00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:53,296 and until 12 o'clock, 1pm, or the following night. 1075 00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:56,967 As we are fully mental. 1076 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,203 I got a story - I drive in New York City one night. 1077 00:54:00,203 --> 00:54:01,404 No, at that time day, exactly. 1078 00:54:01,404 --> 00:54:03,773 I was driving, and he was there walking down the road. 1079 00:54:03,773 --> 00:54:05,075 I shouted, "Michael, Michael!" 1080 00:54:05,108 --> 00:54:07,010 and he just walked. 1081 00:54:07,043 --> 00:54:09,246 And he turned and he looked around. 1082 00:54:09,279 --> 00:54:11,881 "Fuck with you! " He started swearing. 1083 00:54:11,881 --> 00:54:14,251 I was like wow, he was betrayed. 1084 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:16,419 I like," Michael! " " Fuck you ! " 1085 00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:20,257 He's all messed up walking down the street I'm like a holy. 1086 00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:22,425 Like he's gone. 1087 00:54:22,425 --> 00:54:23,660 Don't know who I am. 1088 00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:25,195 Beer isn't enough. 1089 00:54:25,195 --> 00:54:26,930 Vodka isn't enough. 1090 00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:28,865 Jägermeister is not enough. 1091 00:54:28,865 --> 00:54:30,834 The blackout not enough. 1092 00:54:30,867 --> 00:54:35,338 Why do I have a receipt to deduct $ 1000 from City Bank in my pocket? 1093 00:54:35,338 --> 00:54:37,707 I started then did cocaine. 1094 00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:40,944 He is one of those people and we all know them. 1095 00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:43,013 We will go like, you know, 1096 00:54:43,013 --> 00:54:45,815 if you understand that that phone call, the person dies 1097 00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:47,584 you won't be surprised. 1098 00:54:47,584 --> 00:54:48,852 And I hate to say that. 1099 00:54:48,852 --> 00:54:49,819 And I hate to say that. 1100 00:54:49,819 --> 00:54:52,088 p> 1101 00:54:52,088 --> 00:54:54,124 That's a terrible thing to say. 1102 00:54:54,124 --> 00:54:57,527 there is such a thing a chaotic state without something bad happens? 1103 00:54:57,594 --> 00:54:59,829 I remember being down here, going to the cracking nest 1104 00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:02,132 and don't even know how I got there. 1105 00:55:02,165 --> 00:55:05,802 The last thing I remember is that I'm in New York City. 1106 00:55:05,802 --> 00:55:07,971 Oof, scary shit. 1107 00:55:07,971 --> 00:55:10,507 p> 1108 00:55:10,507 --> 00:55:12,542 They drop everyone. 1109 00:55:12,542 --> 00:55:15,345 You don't know about that until you 1110 00:55:15,345 --> 00:55:16,713 have it in your life and actually see it happen
for someone. 1111 00:55:16,713 --> 00:55:19,282 You don't understand it. 1112 00:55:19,282 --> 00:55:20,550 You know they say it damn disease, 1113 00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:22,152 you don't believe them. 1114 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:23,453 Ah yes you can stop, you can stop. 1115 00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:26,323 I can stop. 1116 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:28,224 Some people can't, you know, and it's like a damn, uh 1117 00:55:28,258 --> 00:55:29,926 I don't have it. Do you know? 1118 00:55:29,993 --> 00:55:31,227 But some people do it. 1119 00:55:31,261 --> 00:55:33,563 They try drugs, they are crazy, that's all. 1120 00:55:33,563 --> 00:55:35,098 You know you're usually walking playing with someone they like 1121 00:55:35,098 --> 00:55:37,267 "Oh, I was really hammered in the bar one night 1122 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,236 and I remember I threw up and they put me in a taxi and they sent me home. " 1123 00:55:40,236 --> 00:55:42,172 you know like, " Wow, I'm crazy. " 1124 00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:45,308 Michael's story involves, you know, 1125 00:55:45,308 --> 00:55:48,545 madness that happened later because unlike last night 1126 00:55:48,545 --> 00:55:49,913 but like, three weeks. 1127 00:55:49,913 --> 00:55:51,514 As we wrote, and we do this, 1128 00:55:51,548 --> 00:55:52,982 and we stay up all night. 1129 00:55:52,982 --> 00:55:56,453 And of course the character he lists in his story, 1130 00:55:56,453 --> 00:55:57,387 At some point, you are like 1131 00:55:57,387 --> 00:56:00,290 how can this person live and breathe at this point in time? 1132 00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:01,424 And he is. 1133 00:56:01,591 --> 00:56:02,959 Michael Alago doesn't care. 1134 00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,028 I see it many times I mean, 1135 00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:07,931 I remember when I was drunk and like 1136 00:56:07,931 --> 00:56:11,167 must transport Michael from likes, potential fighting with big people. 1137 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:14,537 He is like, You know, ready to go, 1138 00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:16,306 You know, ready to fight. 1139 00:56:16,306 --> 00:56:18,975 So we left that kind of in the middle of Weapons and Roses, 1140 00:56:18,975 --> 00:56:21,044 and we're walking a parking lot and uh, 1141 00:56:21,044 --> 00:56:24,381 there is a child like that looks like a youngster James Hetfield and uh, 1142 00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:26,416 just looks like gets into trouble, 1143 00:56:26,416 --> 00:56:28,184 and Alago goes, "Oh, what do you know? 1144 00:56:28,218 --> 00:56:30,653 Do you want to pass us because we will leave? " 1145 00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:33,289 We laugh, we have fun, we have to go. 1146 00:56:33,289 --> 00:56:35,325 Just be Alago and be generous. 1147 00:56:35,325 --> 00:56:37,927 Yes , they are rather like, say no, 1148 00:56:37,961 --> 00:56:41,097 and we, he is like, whatever, you know, 1149 00:56:41,097 --> 00:56:43,032 and we keep going
and suddenly, 1150 00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:45,068 that looks like James Hetfield 1151 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:46,636 running from behind, 1152 00:56:46,669 --> 00:56:50,340 and kicking Michael in the ass like he ran to kick the ball. 1153 00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,209 And I was like "Oh my God." And then, uh, 1154 00:56:53,209 --> 00:56:54,778 was on,
00:56:57,881 And I'm a girl, like I came out, I like to step back from this, 1156 00:56:57,881 --> 00:57:01,084 and uh, the next thing < br /> you know I'm not kidding it's like a cartoon. 1157 00:57:01,084 --> 00:57:03,553 You only see a fur ball fly in the air. 1158 00:57:03,553 --> 00:57:07,824 Suddenly a large feather ball has just gone flying across the parking lot. 1159 00:57:07,824 --> 00:57:10,493 Bam. Michael is on the boy. 1160 00:57:10,493 --> 00:57:13,663 He makes it slam against the bumper of the car. 1161 00:57:13,663 --> 00:57:16,199 He has one hand grabs hair children. 1162 00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:18,034 One hand grabs the nuts, 1163 00:57:18,101 --> 00:57:21,538 and he is like, "I eat children like you for breakfast." 1164 00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:24,707 I will never forget that in my life. 1165 00:57:24,707 --> 00:57:28,611 Don't make love to Michael Alago. 1166 00:57:28,611 --> 00:57:32,782 It could be a subtext of , documentary. 1167 00:57:32,782 --> 00:57:36,686 Cause if you are a jerk he will put you in a deep examination. 1168 00:57:36,686 --> 00:57:39,622 I thought I told you when I was angry at the police leg? 1169 00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:43,726 You know, uh, I think it's like part of the worst 5 years 1170 00:57:43,726 --> 00:57:46,262 and the last 5 years I drink and anesthetize. 1171 00:57:46,329 --> 00:57:48,998 I think uh, I also remember, 1172 00:57:48,998 --> 00:57:54,103 waking up St. Vincent with, uh, IV comes out of my arms. 1173 00:57:54,337 --> 00:57:57,440 There are some things that happen with his lifestyle 1174 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,441 and drugs, 1175 00:57:58,441 --> 00:58:01,778 and it's like, You know, many people 1176 00:58:01,778 --> 00:58:04,514 who are doing those things at that time don't leave it. 1177 00:58:04,514 --> 00:58:06,916 [Debbie Southwood Smith] I remember that time living in Brooklyn 1178 00:58:06,916 --> 00:58:09,185 in um, Carol Gordon. 1179 00:58:09,185 --> 00:58:11,888 You would only see these people 1180 00:58:11,888 --> 00:58:16,292 withers and walks with a stick and is covered in wounds 1181 00:58:16,292 --> 00:58:18,995 and you know they will die. 1182 00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:21,164 And you see that all of New York. 1183 00:58:21,197 --> 00:58:23,700 And you know they will die. 1184 00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:26,503 People infected with HIV will die. 1185 00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:29,005 That's 80's and that's how it is. 1186 00:58:29,272 --> 00:58:33,409 And I started to hear the story of about Michael being seriously ill. 1187 00:58:33,409 --> 00:58:35,812 So I went to see Michael one, one day and, 1188 00:58:35,812 --> 00:58:39,182 and I see it and he's very thin, you know, like, 1189 00:58:39,182 --> 00:58:41,985 like very small, do you know? 1190 00:58:41,985 --> 00:58:45,421 And I just see it and he just goes, "Yes." You know... 1191 00:58:45,822 --> 00:58:49,025 You know all the images of my friends 1192 00:58:49,025 --> 00:58:51,661 ill , who is missing, 1193 00:58:51,661 --> 00:58:54,163 suddenly seems like it appears into my head when, 1194 00:58:54,163 --> 00:58:57,200 when Michael tells me that he, he is HIV positive. 1195 00:58:57,233 --> 00:59:00,503 And I, I remember the first thing I did 1196 00:59:00,503 --> 00:59:05,408 which I am, me, you know, which is my habit, 1197 00:59:05,408 --> 00:59:10,346 You know, just to hug, hug, you know my friends and /> similar like 1198 00:59:10,346 --> 00:59:13,616 let them know that, you know, I'm there for them. 1199 00:59:13,950 --> 00:59:20,156 Um, so that's very, yes, very, very, very, very difficult to handle with, uh, 1200 00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:23,593 You know, the cause at that time everyone died of AIDS. 1201 00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:25,795 How did he go < br /> to survive, you know? 1202 00:59:25,828 --> 00:59:26,763 He is my brother, 1203 00:59:26,796 --> 00:59:28,097 you know, I love him. 1204 00:59:28,097 --> 00:59:34,971 Um, yes that is, uh, > it's hard. That's difficult. 1205 00:59:34,971 --> 00:59:41,044 They don't have cocktails, uh, smooth as they do now. 1206 00:59:41,044 --> 00:59:43,379 I think there is things he didn't take because he didn't like the reaction that he had them. 1207 00:59:43,379 --> 00:59:47,383 karena dia tidak seperti reaksi bahwa dia memiliki mereka. 1208 00:59:47,383 --> 00:59:48,818 Michael faded away. 1209 00:59:48,851 --> 00:59:51,220 And I don't think he will succeed. 1210 00:59:51,254 --> 00:59:55,925 And I can't imagine the world without him in it. 1211 00:59:55,959 --> 01:00:01,264 There was a time when it seemed like he was getting near the end, 1212 01:00:01,264 --> 01:00:03,132 and it was a very gloomy day. 1213 01:00:03,132 --> 01:00:08,938 Go to meet him and um, You know, he can barely move. 1214 01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:12,075 And what was made it was really terrible was the cat 1215 01:00:12,108 --> 01:00:14,944 really hurt too, So the cat is kind of dirty, 1216 01:00:14,978 --> 01:00:17,280 and loitering really comes out of it too. 1217 01:00:17,313 --> 01:00:18,381 And he comes out of there. 1218 01:00:18,781 --> 01:00:20,883 > 1219 01:00:21,117 --> 01:00:25,355 And it's very sad. 1220 01:00:25,355 --> 01:00:29,692 That's not even once, it's two or three times, 1221 01:00:29,692 --> 01:00:31,527 that he suddenly
unite again. 1222 01:00:31,527 --> 01:00:33,496 The next day Michael is back. General meeting. 1223 01:00:33,496 --> 01:00:36,432 Michael's — no he okay, he's fine. 1224 01:00:36,432 --> 01:00:37,767 Fine. 1225 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,604 A year later or something I heard 1226 01:00:41,604 --> 01:00:44,974 Michael had pneumonia, or he was very sick, bah, bah. 1227 01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:47,677 So we stayed - I called him during those days, 1228 01:00:47,744 --> 01:00:52,081 I remember eating an intense conversation over the phone with him. 1229 01:00:52,081 --> 01:00:57,153 And he is very brave and really hope, 1230 01:00:57,153 --> 01:01:00,156 even though I have admit there is a time when I call him 1231 01:01:00,156 --> 01:01:03,359 and he will only say, "I can't talk now." 1232 01:01:03,359 --> 01:01:04,794 "I'm very sick." 1233 01:01:04,794 --> 01:01:06,429 "I can't talk now." 1234 01:01:06,629 --> 01:01:08,297 Then... 1235 01:01:09,298 --> 01:01:12,201 I don't know, it must be within a few months of this period, 1236 01:01:12,201 --> 01:01:15,772 they came with these pills, this cocktail. 1237 01:01:15,772 --> 01:01:19,542 And at first he kind of stabilized 1238 01:01:19,542 --> 01:01:22,612 then he started
be healthy again. 1239 01:01:23,112 --> 01:01:27,116 Michael is fine and started this new career 1240 01:01:27,116 --> 01:01:29,519 as a photographer and great. 1241 01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,188 And um... 1242 01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:34,490 years later she is still fine 1243 01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:37,160 and it's one of them the miracle of that period 1244 01:01:37,193 --> 01:01:39,595 where we lost a lot of friends. 1245 01:01:39,595 --> 01:01:41,531 And where we thought we lost him. 1246 01:01:41,531 --> 01:01:45,334 He was at the end of the lucky one from, a, one generation. 1247 01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:50,673 Because only a few years, say like... 1248 01:01:50,673 --> 01:01:52,075 he was very lucky. 1249 01:01:52,075 --> 01:01:54,944 Thank God he took a chance to be clean, 1250 01:01:54,944 --> 01:01:57,447 because God knows what, where he will be. 1251 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,150 When he finally said that to me like he went to a meeting 1252 01:02:01,150 --> 01:02:05,822 and he got- I was like thank God for what you know? 1253 01:02:05,822 --> 01:02:07,757 You need Get yourself on track. 1254 01:02:07,757 --> 01:02:11,494 I like to see it as there's the bottom you hit. 1255 01:02:11,561 --> 01:02:12,862 There is a prize. 1256 01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:16,199 You also scratch past it briefly, 1257 01:02:16,232 --> 01:02:22,605 uh, um, you get help you need, somehow. 1258 01:02:22,605 --> 01:02:27,577 Or you, you are aware I can't, I can't live like this anymore. 1259 01:02:27,577 --> 01:02:30,913 I need, if I need to, 1260 01:02:30,913 --> 01:02:32,815 if I want to live, I have to change. 1261 01:02:32,815 --> 01:02:36,953 Yes back that day, drinking and anesthetizing, you know, one, myself. 1262 01:02:36,953 --> 01:02:42,258 You have all kinds of likes, You know, hatred and other things and it's like, 1263 01:02:42,258 --> 01:02:47,630 oooh, praise God in my calm, I am an adult. 1264 01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:51,100 Uh, and in its infancy you just let everything work. 1265 01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:56,439 Because all of that stuff is a thing of the past. 1266 01:02:56,472 --> 01:02:57,974 And what do you know? 1267 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,942 I don't want to live with all that. 1268 01:02:59,976 --> 01:03:03,045 Because it is past and, 1269 01:03:03,045 --> 01:03:06,149 you grow and you learn and um, 1270 01:03:06,149 --> 01:03:09,485 you learn to love and you learn < br /> not to live in fear 1271 01:03:09,485 --> 01:03:14,157 and, uh when you do that, you know, life only becomes very beautiful. 1272 01:03:14,157 --> 01:03:17,160 [Mina Caputo ] Creation, Destruction. Creation, Destruction. 1273 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,062 You must destroy yourself to create yourself. 1274 01:03:20,062 --> 01:03:21,597 That's the name of the game. 1275 01:03:21,597 --> 01:03:23,299 It's alive, huh? 1276 01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:26,002 To feel excitement you have to suffer. 1277 01:03:26,002 --> 01:03:30,239 Here, this is the paradox that brings us to the full circle 1278 01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:32,742 what is Michael Alago. 1279 01:03:32,742 --> 01:03:39,615 The paradox of business, gay scene, photography scene, 1280 01:03:39,615 --> 01:03:43,252 poet scene, you know everything. 1281 01:03:43,252 --> 01:03:46,255 You know he's past a lot with that whole world of music business. 1282 01:03:46,255 --> 01:03:48,791 I remember Michael telling me he didn't want to do it again, 1283 01:03:48,791 --> 01:03:49,892 and he just left to take pictures. 1284 01:03:49,892 --> 01:03:52,695 I just want to like meet boys on the street and take photos of them. 1285 01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:55,598 And I turn here is this person and he's like, 1286 01:03:55,598 --> 01:03:57,767 "Hi, my name is Michael Alago and I'm a photographer. " 1287 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,468 And only ba-da-ba-da-ba. 1288 01:03:59,468 --> 01:04:02,505 Just so you know, really only and sure of himself and... 1289 01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:04,140 "Can I take your photo?" 1290 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:06,475 And I go, "Do you want to take my picture?" 1291 01:04:06,475 --> 01:04:07,577 And he said, "Yes." 1292 01:04:07,577 --> 01:04:09,178 And I went, "Okay." 1293 01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:11,514 And he said, "Can you make muscle? " 1294 01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:14,016 And I go," Are you sure? Make muscle? " 1295 01:04:14,016 --> 01:04:15,985 I don't know anything about this person. 1296 01:04:15,985 --> 01:04:19,822 I like to see it like that there is a photographer's eye there. 1297 01:04:19,822 --> 01:04:22,558 And I don't know what this number is. 1298 01:04:22,558 --> 01:04:27,864 Uh , I suspect it's a little Mapplethorpe induced. 1299 01:04:30,132 --> 01:04:32,001 Which isn't a bad thing too. 1300 01:04:32,068 --> 01:04:34,003 [Debbie Southwood Smith] Dia tahu Robert Mapplethorpe. 1301 01:04:35,137 --> 01:04:37,907 He must be influential on what Michael did. 1302 01:04:37,907 --> 01:04:39,375 There is no doubt about that. 1303 01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:41,777 But Michael even before that. 1304 01:04:41,777 --> 01:04:44,347 Even before he became a photographer. 1305 01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:45,915 When he was an A & R, 1306 01:04:45,915 --> 01:04:47,783 Michael always had a camera. 1307 01:04:47,783 --> 01:04:51,020 And that's why you got a shot young Michael with Bono. 1308 01:04:51,020 --> 01:04:54,090 You got a shot from young Michael with Johnny Lydon. 1309 01:04:54,090 --> 01:04:59,395 I went to Mapplethorpe exhibition in New York, some uh, some time ago and uh, 1310 01:04:59,395 --> 01:05:03,799 And uh... I - very excited things- crotch things, you know? 1311 01:05:03,799 --> 01:05:07,637 But I like it because it really threatens. 1312 01:05:07,637 --> 01:05:12,041 You know that on your face, you could say that. 1313 01:05:12,041 --> 01:05:17,179 But you have to be breaking down and uh, art is about surprises. 1314 01:05:17,213 --> 01:05:20,216 And, and and uh, and attack the taboo. 1315 01:05:20,850 --> 01:05:22,084 For me. 1316 01:05:23,286 --> 01:05:27,290 And I have no doubt Michael will break up more of several taboos. 1317 01:05:27,290 --> 01:05:29,158 Children are well done. 1318 01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:35,598 ♪ ♪ 1319 01:05:52,648 --> 01:05:55,451 I like having people close their eyes in pictures 1320 01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:59,522 because what happened is someone like this who you are not thinking of being approached 1321 01:05:59,522 --> 01:06:01,924 suddenly in my inner eyes 1322 01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:04,894 He becomes vulnerable , because he dreamed. 1323 01:06:04,894 --> 01:06:08,531 I just like that little vulnerability. 1324 01:06:08,531 --> 01:06:10,066 So there. 1325 01:06:18,107 --> 01:06:19,608 And of course
which guides us 1326 01:06:19,642 --> 01:06:21,677 are you currently working, that is, 1327 01:06:21,777 --> 01:06:23,379 - Which is photography. - Yes 1328 01:06:23,412 --> 01:06:27,817 And that , that, that is especially— you must have - 1329 01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:29,618 you have very clear inspiration. 1330 01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:33,556 It's no secret that Michael loves his muscle men. 1331 01:06:33,556 --> 01:06:35,825 So that's the first subject. 1332 01:06:35,825 --> 01:06:37,727 Like, write what you know, do what you know. 1333 01:06:37,727 --> 01:06:42,431 So Michael is right for that and that's right. 1334 01:06:42,431 --> 01:06:44,200 If I tell people 1335 01:06:44,233 --> 01:06:47,203 what is Michael Alago < br /> do as a photographer 1336 01:06:47,203 --> 01:06:51,474 I have to say he is photographing a man. 1337 01:06:52,241 --> 01:06:53,809 A strong man. 1338 01:06:53,809 --> 01:06:54,710 Great guy. 1339 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:56,078 Muscle men. 1340 01:06:56,078 --> 01:06:59,482 Of the types that can be a little intimidating. 1341 01:06:59,482 --> 01:07:02,218 That always seems to be 1342 01:07:02,251 --> 01:07:05,654 really ready to give
something for Michael, 1343 01:07:05,721 --> 01:07:08,057 who seems to respond to 1344 01:07:08,057 --> 01:07:10,960 to his camera and become rather open to him. 1345 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,929 Michael has some sort of tender taking they I think. 1346 01:07:13,929 --> 01:07:16,866 And that's what makes it unique type of work. 1347 01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:23,672 I think he's good documenting a tribe tattooed, muscular, tough guy. 1348 01:07:23,672 --> 01:07:27,009 Sexuality who is very much ahead. 1349 01:07:27,009 --> 01:07:29,979 But it is also not definitively defined. 1350 01:07:29,979 --> 01:07:34,483 Except in Michael take that obsessive. 1351 01:07:34,517 --> 01:07:35,351 [Kurdy Vanderhoof] it's perfect. 1352 01:07:35,384 --> 01:07:37,353 When he started telling me he did that, it was like, 1353 01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:39,522 I didn't, it never
01:07:42,458 But when he started describing what he was doing and telling me, it was like, 1355 01:07:42,825 --> 01:07:45,127 well, that's perfect. 1356 01:07:45,194 --> 01:07:47,329 That's really what you have to do now. 1357 01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:50,166 And that's just, and he's good at that and he is excited about that. 1358 01:07:50,166 --> 01:07:53,969 There's another side to the art from where he comes from it. 1359 01:07:53,969 --> 01:07:57,139 You know and it's like that, just made makes sense for me. 1360 01:07:57,139 --> 01:07:58,274 And that's good. 1361 01:07:58,274 --> 01:08:00,810 I mean, I see photos of it every day. 1362 01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:03,145 They are there like you come to my apartment. 1363 01:08:03,145 --> 01:08:06,015 And they're there and every day you can see them. 1364 01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:07,583 and they, they are outside normal. 1365 01:08:07,583 --> 01:08:10,486 The back of the male head with chains and goods. 1366 01:08:10,486 --> 01:08:11,454 Damn incredible. 1367 01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:14,623 [Vince Aletti] He did something historic in several ways. 1368 01:08:14,657 --> 01:08:19,295 He documented the type of man he felt interesting. 1369 01:08:19,361 --> 01:08:22,098 many others people find interesting 1370 01:08:22,131 --> 01:08:24,433 that is now, and no, 1371 01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:30,506 not about 20 years ago, and maybe not exactly the same 20 years from now. 1372 01:08:30,506 --> 01:08:38,180 So that's the same way I think of Robert Mapplethorpe early photos, black man. 1373 01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:43,052 Um, which is not enough to look like today. 1374 01:08:43,052 --> 01:08:46,222 That he documents a certain period of people. 1375 01:08:46,222 --> 01:08:51,727 From, and I think a lot of photographers are becoming very intensely into their time. 1376 01:08:51,727 --> 01:08:53,996 Even back again until August Sander. 1377 01:08:53,996 --> 01:08:59,034 You are viewing, on a document at a specific time and place. 1378 01:08:59,034 --> 01:09:00,669 [Cherry Vanilla] You know, to see him now, 1379 01:09:00,669 --> 01:09:03,105 Very beautiful, very healthy, 1380 01:09:03,105 --> 01:09:07,676 is very strong and has this career that she likes. 1381 01:09:07,676 --> 01:09:10,179 Really different from the career he has. 1382 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,884 It's not good to say okay, be-because we thought he would die 1383 01:09:14,917 --> 01:09:16,485 that made us love him even more. 1384 01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:21,924 But that happened, it did something for all of us. 1385 01:09:21,957 --> 01:09:27,463 That made our relationship, our love for Michael is much more intimate. 1386 01:09:27,463 --> 01:09:31,066 We all want to be fair hug him all the time because 1387 01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:35,704 it's nice to have someone still with you who you think you definitely lose. 1388 01:09:35,704 --> 01:09:40,109 He's one of them survived my crowd, my time. 1389 01:09:40,142 --> 01:09:42,578 So I can't help but just 1390 01:09:43,345 --> 01:09:47,049 feel like,
"Yes! You and I love, 1391 01:09:47,049 --> 01:09:49,118 we are still here, we succeed." Do you know? " 1392 01:09:49,118 --> 01:09:52,454 As far as I know music is what makes me young. 1393 01:09:52,454 --> 01:09:55,624 That, that, that, that's what makes my soul alive. 1394 01:09:55,624 --> 01:09:59,195 And I think like having hanging out with Michael on the show 1395 01:09:59,195 --> 01:10:02,298 is the same as him, like that makes you stay young. 1396 01:10:02,298 --> 01:10:08,671 And he still has the same passion he has, you know 40 years ago. 1397 01:10:08,671 --> 01:10:11,473 Even though Michael is not a musician, 1398 01:10:11,473 --> 01:10:15,411 he's an artist in his own sense and he never loses that passion. 1399 01:10:15,411 --> 01:10:16,946 You don't overcome that. 1400 01:10:16,946 --> 01:10:19,415 I mean that something that you will, will - 1401 01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:22,985 I-I burn me. 1402 01:10:22,985 --> 01:10:24,220 This fills my life. 1403 01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:27,156 And there's no doubt that it burns the life of Michaels. 1404 01:10:27,156 --> 01:10:31,961 [Phil Anselmo] Mike Alago and I see eye to eye because of our , we come down to earth. 1405 01:10:31,961 --> 01:10:34,396 He is a man down to earth. 1406 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:36,665 I think that's what I have struggling with the most 1407 01:10:36,665 --> 01:10:41,704 is fame and popularity and how do others see you 1408 01:10:41,704 --> 01:10:46,709 because this is untouchable the damn rock star thing. 1409 01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:49,144 It's annoying. That's nonsense. 1410 01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:52,181 I'm the same as everyone else, 1411 01:10:52,181 --> 01:10:54,283 damn damn music. 1412 01:10:54,283 --> 01:10:55,618 Music fans. 1413 01:10:55,618 --> 01:10:58,887 A music nerdy, if you want. 1414 01:10:58,921 --> 01:11:00,489 That's what I saw in Mike. 1415 01:11:00,522 --> 01:11:02,258 [Doyle Wolfgang von Frankenstein] I always hope Michael is the best, friend. 1416 01:11:02,291 --> 01:11:04,660 I might do it Kill someone for him. 1417 01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:06,128 I think he is, he's great. 1418 01:11:06,128 --> 01:11:08,731 He's a kind person. He really is. 1419 01:11:08,731 --> 01:11:11,233 I just hope that he keeps going 1420 01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:14,236 as long as, as we do. 1421 01:11:14,236 --> 01:11:17,206 And I hope we can all hang out 1422 01:11:17,206 --> 01:11:21,043 in the dressing room, in the sky together someday. 1423 01:11:21,076 --> 01:11:23,512 Just like looking back < > all that happens, 1424 01:11:23,545 --> 01:11:25,014 "We do good." 1425 01:11:25,014 --> 01:11:28,350 We do good for ourselves. We do good for 1426 01:11:28,350 --> 01:11:30,286 people who exist around us at that time. 1427 01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:32,688 And we do it well for, for music. 1428 01:11:35,924 --> 01:11:39,228 Hopefully good people win 1429 01:11:39,228 --> 01:11:40,362 Do you know? 1430 01:11:41,997 --> 01:11:43,832 Because he will be there with that. 1431 01:11:43,832 --> 01:11:49,138 And it doesn't need of course it's very big
public appreciation. 1432 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:51,073 That's what you know You have done your best 1433 01:11:51,106 --> 01:11:54,209 and you have not done anything to harm or destroy humans else. 1434 01:11:54,209 --> 01:11:55,644 Fantastic. 1435 01:11:55,878 --> 01:11:59,548 Right. He stands very stiff at, in 1436 01:11:59,548 --> 01:12:03,252 I am very small. collection very important person 1437 01:12:03,252 --> 01:12:04,653 does not lie 1438 01:12:04,653 --> 01:12:08,157 I talked to him and I have this flashback 1439 01:12:08,157 --> 01:12:10,693 [Daniel Rey] Seeing Patti Smith on CBGB & apos; s. 1440 01:12:10,693 --> 01:12:12,661 I think it's & apos; 76, or & apos; 77. 1441 01:12:12,661 --> 01:12:15,731 And this is when you or - you order a table on CBGB & apos; s. 1442 01:12:15,731 --> 01:12:18,901 Now when I got there at dusk to get a good seat, 1443 01:12:18,934 --> 01:12:21,070 and there were around ten people already in line. 1444 01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:22,638 I look up the front line, 1445 01:12:22,671 --> 01:12:24,073 and you always wonder at the rock concert 1446 01:12:24,106 --> 01:12:26,075 who is ahead from the line? 1447 01:12:27,276 --> 01:12:30,145 And this is very small Spanish child in front of the line. 1448 01:12:32,214 --> 01:12:35,284 Feminine guy and I just remember seeing him say 1449 01:12:35,284 --> 01:12:38,320 he must be real a rock and roll fan. 1450 01:12:52,668 --> 01:12:56,572 Don't ask how Ted Nugent is here because I don't know. 1451 01:12:56,638 --> 01:12:59,141 I definitely like it back that day. 1452 01:13:04,546 --> 01:13:08,150 So if you are in New York City and you go to 2nd Street and Bowery, 1453 01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:11,720 you can see the sign on the pole that says Joey Ramone Place 1454 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,155 and that because we're great 1455 01:13:13,155 --> 01:13:16,792 Arturo Vega, uh, he understands the way named Joey, 1456 01:13:16,792 --> 01:13:19,094 and uh, that's right cool. 1457 01:13:27,803 --> 01:13:31,440 In, like sorry the point of view he just said, 1458 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,375 " This is the way I think, make love to you. 1459 01:13:33,375 --> 01:13:35,477 And you have a problem with this? 1460 01:13:35,477 --> 01:13:36,612 Isn't this great? 1461 01:13:36,612 --> 01:13:37,980 Look This damn man. 1462 01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:42,151 He has *** ten feet long and how amazing is that? " 1463 01:13:42,151 --> 01:13:45,454 It's like, yes it is, it's a big penis OK, you know? 1464 01:13:45,454 --> 01:13:47,923 Whatever, whatever it is the picture is possible. 1465 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,131 Here we are Hollywood Boulevard and Walk of Fame 1466 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,300 with all the great stars. 1467 01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:34,036 We are not exactly in the middle -that's all 1468 01:14:34,036 --> 01:14:37,639 but you know I guess if you get a star on Hollywood Boulevard 1469 01:14:37,639 --> 01:14:39,708 it will really, really- really cool. 1470 01:14:39,708 --> 01:14:45,447 So I'm thinking because this star is empty. 1471 01:14:45,447 --> 01:14:48,083 This is my star on Hollywood Boulevard. 1472 01:14:48,083 --> 01:14:51,086 It's not exactly main real estate, but what do you know? 1473 01:14:51,086 --> 01:14:52,521 I'll take it! 1474 01:14:52,654 --> 01:14:55,657 Yes and you can, see, you can < right next to 1475 01:14:55,657 --> 01:14:58,694 That will be Osmond's family. 1476 01:14:59,061 --> 01:15:01,396 And Michael Alago. I like it. 1477 01:15:01,396 --> 01:15:03,532 Hollywood here I come. 1478 01:15:18,046 --> 01:15:21,216 Oh I remember one show that was good in CB, 1479 01:15:21,216 --> 01:15:24,186 uh, this UK band was called Chelsea. 1480 01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:26,655 And they have singer named Gene October, 1481 01:15:26,655 --> 01:15:29,091 and I think I'm a a little more than drunk, 1482 01:15:29,091 --> 01:15:30,993 But right after that they do their set 1483 01:15:31,026 --> 01:15:32,995 I just caught it and brought it home for the night. 1484 01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:49,578 At The Ritz many people did a punch. 1485 01:15:49,578 --> 01:15:53,081 Like, so I'll go to Michaels's office and there are only people, 1486 01:15:53,081 --> 01:15:55,817 so you know, sometimes there will be someone < br /> like here, yes, 1487 01:15:55,817 --> 01:15:58,487 I won't, I won't like, "Oh can I just have some of your punches? " 1488 01:15:58,487 --> 01:16:00,789 but most people will offer it to you, 1489 01:16:00,789 --> 01:16:02,991 and then the next thing you know you... 1490 01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:06,728 You're tall on a coke that's not what really wants to be, you know? 1491 01:16:23,478 --> 01:16:27,749 I go to this party that night, there. 1492 01:16:27,749 --> 01:16:30,085 The band there is not visible. 1493 01:16:30,085 --> 01:16:32,888 You know everyone yells, "Shout! " 1494 01:16:32,955 --> 01:16:35,290 Song, " Shake it out with your cock coming out! " 1495 01:16:35,324 --> 01:16:37,593 [singing] Don't you know it will be a hit? 1496 01:16:37,626 --> 01:16:40,629 The reason everyone always sings it. 1497 01:16:40,629 --> 01:16:42,698 Everyone shouts and shouts, 1498 01:16:42,698 --> 01:16:45,233 they are singing rock with your cock coming out ! 1499 01:16:53,909 --> 01:16:56,678 The funny thing is I'm walking, uh, on the 8th Avenue once, 1500 01:16:56,678 --> 01:16:58,213 near where he lives, 1501 01:16:58,213 --> 01:17:03,251 and I walk with some
hardcore gay bookstore, uh, you know 1502 01:17:03,251 --> 01:17:04,753 I don't know what this is going on there, you know, 1503 01:17:04,753 --> 01:17:07,856 one of these places You might still be able to buy locker room 1504 01:17:07,856 --> 01:17:09,791 or, or, or you know, 1505 01:17:09,791 --> 01:17:12,427 and I see a picture of my boots in the window. 1506 01:17:12,427 --> 01:17:13,862 I'm like, "Hey, that my dear... 1507 01:17:13,862 --> 01:17:14,896 I think that is my shoes. " 1508 01:17:14,896 --> 01:17:16,531 And below it is written Dito Shoes 1509 01:17:16,531 --> 01:17:19,034 Submitted by: www.subtitlecinema.com