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Right. 12 00:00:59,436 --> 00:01:02,569 They look like women, they play like men, 13 00:01:02,836 --> 00:01:05,569 and they are the biggest collection of hell-keepers to get out of America! 14 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:07,404 This is Twisted Sister! 15 00:01:10,337 --> 00:01:12,070 ♪ Good evening! ♪ 16 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:16,204 ♪ Welcome to our event! ♪ 17 00:01:18,204 --> 00:01:21,537 ♪ If you have that problem, yes ♪ 18 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:25,870 ♪ All right I think so You must know ♪ 19 00:01:27,537 --> 00:01:30,404 ♪ I want to tell you something ♪ 20 00:01:32,237 --> 00:01:34,838 ♪ I am someone you can trust ♪ 21 00:01:36,571 --> 00:01:41,005 ♪ You better take good ones look hard ♪ 22 00:01:41,071 --> 00:01:44,305 ♪ Because there are diamonds in this dust ♪ 23 00:01:44,371 --> 00:01:48,238 ♪ Hit it! We are not an overnight sensation ♪ 24 00:01:49,605 --> 00:01:52,438 ♪ There's no Cinderella fantasy ♪ 25 00:01:54,071 --> 00:01:56,971 ♪ Please do not have compliments or applause ♪ 26 00:01:58,205 --> 00:02:01,105 ♪ I've heard it before You see... ♪ 27 00:02:29,372 --> 00:02:30,372 In the summer of '72 28 00:02:30,472 --> 00:02:33,473 I was determined enough that the drug scene 29 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:36,273 that I have become part of a New York City 30 00:02:36,373 --> 00:02:37,907 hippie child is pretty much over. 31 00:02:38,007 --> 00:02:42,040 And during that summer I succeeded subscribe to "Fusion Magazine" 32 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:44,307 and by subscribing to it comes a Lou Reed album, 33 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:46,140 a David Bowie album, and Mott the Hoople album. 34 00:02:46,207 --> 00:02:48,040 And the cover of "Fusion" David Bowie is in it. 35 00:02:48,107 --> 00:02:49,907 And I go whoa! Whoa! What is this?! 36 00:02:49,973 --> 00:02:51,073 This is not a Grateful Dead. 37 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:53,207 This is something is completely different. 38 00:02:53,307 --> 00:02:55,607 And I change gears 180 degrees. 39 00:02:55,873 --> 00:02:59,373 Then when The Dolls starts playing at Mercer Arts Center, 40 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,040 That is a new world for me. 41 00:03:01,107 --> 00:03:03,241 Bowie is there, and Lou Reed is there. 42 00:03:03,308 --> 00:03:05,508 And here it is glam glitter is kinda thing. 43 00:03:05,608 --> 00:03:08,341 You know I'm strangely connected to it, 44 00:03:08,408 --> 00:03:09,574 unless I am a musician 45 00:03:09,874 --> 00:03:12,008 and these bands It's not music for me. 46 00:03:12,108 --> 00:03:13,541 Actually they are very bad. 47 00:03:13,608 --> 00:03:14,908 I mean they are terrible. 48 00:03:14,974 --> 00:03:17,841 They look great. Man, The Dolls look amazing. 49 00:03:17,908 --> 00:03:19,874 I will go home and go, 50 00:03:19,941 --> 00:03:22,041 "The band, if they can play, they will make a lot of money. 51 00:03:22,108 --> 00:03:24,474 But they suck." 52 00:03:24,574 --> 00:03:28,274 And I thought, "Wow, if possible a band like that, but be good!" 53 00:03:30,074 --> 00:03:31,842 I started to get rid of taste, 54 00:03:31,909 --> 00:03:34,242 You know, what I want to be in a glitter band. 55 00:03:34,242 --> 00:03:35,609 And I received this call from a man 56 00:03:35,609 --> 00:03:37,842 which sounds a bit like Rocky Balboa. 57 00:03:37,842 --> 00:03:39,109 And he is like, "Hey, how are you? 58 00:03:39,209 --> 00:03:41,309 My name is Mel, You are a Glittah?" 59 00:03:41,409 --> 00:03:43,075 "You are a Glittah?" - I've never heard that phrase, 60 00:03:43,142 --> 00:03:45,275 "Youse inta Glittah." Like you 61 00:03:45,375 --> 00:03:47,309 Yes, I became glitter. 62 00:03:47,409 --> 00:03:50,175 "Bowie, Lou Reed, Mott the Hoople, yeah, yeah." 63 00:03:50,275 --> 00:03:51,309 "We have to unite, 64 00:03:51,409 --> 00:03:53,042 and we will be like dress like women." 65 00:03:53,109 --> 00:03:54,109 I say, "Really?" 66 00:03:54,175 --> 00:03:55,575 I said, "Are there many groups?" 67 00:03:55,842 --> 00:03:57,342 He said, "Oh yes, you will lie a lot." 68 00:03:58,609 --> 00:04:00,243 And when he comes to my house, 69 00:04:00,243 --> 00:04:01,576 You know, the doorbell rings and I look out 70 00:04:01,576 --> 00:04:03,210 And here it is African-Americans there. 71 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:05,110 And I go, "Sorry, who are you?" 72 00:04:05,176 --> 00:04:08,343 And he said, "This is Mel." And I went, "Oh, okay, whatever. 73 00:04:08,410 --> 00:04:11,310 We got into the car and drove for the first training in New Jersey. 74 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:13,543 basically it's yours 75 00:04:13,543 --> 00:04:15,110 76 00:04:16,576 --> 00:04:18,843 The band has sort of template 77 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,243 There is Michael singer, 78 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:21,243 and Billy the guitar player 79 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:23,410 who form themselves like Mick and Keith. 80 00:04:25,043 --> 00:04:27,510 Mel more jazz influenced drummer, 81 00:04:27,576 --> 00:04:29,544 I think, but a good drummer. 82 00:04:29,611 --> 00:04:32,911 Kenny on bass is this great musician 83 00:04:32,977 --> 00:04:35,611 which seems a little out of place Overall, socially, 84 00:04:35,877 --> 00:04:38,344 but sensational musicians. 85 00:04:38,411 --> 00:04:40,211 So I think this is a good band. 86 00:04:40,277 --> 00:04:42,444 And we will be like looking really great-- 87 00:04:42,511 --> 00:04:43,444 like, we will look like The Dolls, 88 00:04:43,511 --> 00:04:45,277 but we will sound much better, and we will get a recording contract. 89 00:04:45,377 --> 00:04:48,044 Hello, Stu? You will panic 90 00:04:48,144 --> 00:04:49,411 You must see this action. 91 00:04:49,477 --> 00:04:52,911 The New York Dolls have no in these people 92 00:04:53,011 --> 00:04:56,544 One of the first questions they ask me if you will be, 93 00:04:56,611 --> 00:04:59,578 um, fight like wearing anything makeup or something. 94 00:04:59,845 --> 00:05:01,578 And I thought yes, okay I can do that 95 00:05:01,878 --> 00:05:04,445 I have never Now it's a different thing 96 00:05:04,512 --> 00:05:06,045 than I used to play. 97 00:05:06,112 --> 00:05:08,078 They are playing like David Bowie-- 98 00:05:08,145 --> 00:05:09,478 like David who ?! 99 00:05:09,545 --> 00:05:12,245 It's like, a little weird. I don't say anything, 100 00:05:12,345 --> 00:05:14,845 Because I want to be like a team player 101 00:05:14,945 --> 00:05:17,078 So I'm not so sure if I like it, 102 00:05:17,145 --> 00:05:19,212 but when we play some songs, 103 00:05:19,278 --> 00:05:20,345 Like the energy that is there. 104 00:05:20,412 --> 00:05:21,512 And one thing that is certain is, 105 00:05:21,578 --> 00:05:24,178 I don't want to get real work anymore 106 00:05:30,446 --> 00:05:32,413 In the 70s, in New York, 107 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:35,546 the world capital that has been abandoned 108 00:05:35,613 --> 00:05:37,113 by adults at that time 109 00:05:37,213 --> 00:05:39,346 and left to anyone who owns it balls to stay there. 110 00:05:39,413 --> 00:05:41,846 In the right city you have rap, 111 00:05:41,946 --> 00:05:43,479 who you are know born and develop 112 00:05:43,579 --> 00:05:46,279 and punk grow out from the city center 113 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:49,113 And once you go over the bridge 114 00:05:49,179 --> 00:05:51,313 or through a tunnel and leave the city... 115 00:05:52,846 --> 00:05:54,846 You are in America, Basically, 116 00:05:54,913 --> 00:05:56,414 and that is a different world 117 00:05:56,514 --> 00:06:02,480 The beauty of that era is that there really is... 118 00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:06,414 nothing to do as far as nightlife, 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,180 except to go to the cinema or go see a live band. 120 00:06:10,414 --> 00:06:13,547 And usually more happens with a live band. 121 00:06:13,614 --> 00:06:16,380 And that's good 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,014 because everyone just comes out in droves. 123 00:06:19,114 --> 00:06:23,380 The current scene, mid 70s or more, in the Tri-State area 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,048 originally started like in Westchester County 125 00:06:26,115 --> 00:06:27,881 and some parts of Long Island, 126 00:06:27,981 --> 00:06:29,948 and it only grows and grows and grows. 127 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:31,115 What I understand, 128 00:06:31,181 --> 00:06:32,981 it's the only place in the country 129 00:06:33,048 --> 00:06:37,181 it has this kind of intense club area 130 00:06:37,281 --> 00:06:41,215 And it seems there are still To this day the band is Top 40, 131 00:06:41,315 --> 00:06:43,981 uh, club owners are looking for 132 00:06:44,081 --> 00:06:46,281 the band that plays hits today 133 00:06:46,348 --> 00:06:47,615 We are playing Led Zeppelin, 134 00:06:47,881 --> 00:06:50,515 we are playing The Who, we play Jethro Tull, 135 00:06:50,615 --> 00:06:52,915 we are very famous for that. 136 00:06:52,981 --> 00:06:55,382 And all that is done right. 137 00:06:55,449 --> 00:06:57,049 It's all done until tobacco 138 00:06:57,116 --> 00:06:59,982 Everyone wants to see, oh, can they do AC / DC? 139 00:07:00,049 --> 00:07:02,182 Could they do Led Zeppelin? 140 00:07:02,282 --> 00:07:03,516 How good are they doing this? 141 00:07:03,582 --> 00:07:05,416 Nobody wants to hear original music 142 00:07:05,482 --> 00:07:08,182 And no one plays original music at that time. 143 00:07:08,282 --> 00:07:11,149 And look, Once you enter the circuit, 144 00:07:11,216 --> 00:07:13,049 and you swim in that stream, 145 00:07:13,149 --> 00:07:16,549 You know, suddenly everything is open, and that's it. 146 00:07:28,517 --> 00:07:30,483 First show on Satellite 147 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:32,150 Certainly something is different. 148 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:33,483 It's like a very big place, 149 00:07:33,550 --> 00:07:36,250 and that's true _ near the Fort Dix Army base 150 00:07:36,317 --> 00:07:39,517 and then right across the street from McGuire Air Force Base. 151 00:07:39,583 --> 00:07:42,183 So you like the Air Force and Army 152 00:07:42,250 --> 00:07:44,550 and all these people come here 153 00:07:50,417 --> 00:07:52,184 Our makeup Doing it is very feminine. 154 00:07:52,251 --> 00:07:54,884 And I remember being like really nervous 155 00:07:54,951 --> 00:07:57,318 Because I think well of them We will see us 156 00:07:57,384 --> 00:07:58,918 and they will start throwing things 157 00:07:58,984 --> 00:08:00,184 But there isn't anyone in this room 158 00:08:00,251 --> 00:08:02,918 It is a giant bowling alley which holds 3,000 people. 159 00:08:02,984 --> 00:08:04,251 Maybe there are 20 people per night 160 00:08:04,318 --> 00:08:05,584 Tuesday night, no. 161 00:08:05,851 --> 00:08:07,151 Wednesday night, no. Thursday night, no. 162 00:08:07,251 --> 00:08:09,218 We feel rather comfortable into the groove, 163 00:08:09,284 --> 00:08:11,584 Maybe no one will show it and we will learn the song 164 00:08:11,884 --> 00:08:14,084 Because we barely know enough songs to get past three sets. 165 00:08:14,151 --> 00:08:16,384 We have to play five. Come on weekend, bro! 166 00:08:16,451 --> 00:08:19,151 There are 3,000 G.I.s-- God! 167 00:08:20,952 --> 00:08:22,919 I am sick, It hurts physically to my stomach. 168 00:08:23,019 --> 00:08:25,185 Looking out, see these 3,000 people, 169 00:08:25,252 --> 00:08:27,452 see myself dressed with a dog collar, 170 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:29,385 think, "Oh, I'll just be killed 171 00:08:29,485 --> 00:08:31,185 "This is where I will die. 172 00:08:31,252 --> 00:08:35,319 Come here, dress up In drag, I will be killed." 173 00:08:35,385 --> 00:08:37,252 But for any reason, 174 00:08:37,319 --> 00:08:39,919 soldiers there drunk and want entertainment! 175 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,586 About 16 years I come to the crossroads 176 00:08:55,886 --> 00:08:58,420 where as an unpopular child 177 00:08:58,486 --> 00:09:00,253 who doesn't have many friends or doesn't match 178 00:09:00,353 --> 00:09:02,620 with every click or Things like that, 179 00:09:02,886 --> 00:09:05,853 I, um, arrived at a point where I was really aware that I faded a little. 180 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,420 I fade into the background, 181 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,053 and I become nonentity. 182 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 183 00:09:11,986 --> 00:09:15,420 And I remember literally Trembling and saying, 184 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,887 That, you know, I won't go silent at night! 185 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:25,354 And I'm an outcast like this but I don't really care 186 00:09:25,454 --> 00:09:27,854 I just became my own person. 187 00:09:27,921 --> 00:09:31,087 I always sing in the band. And I started to excel. 188 00:09:31,154 --> 00:09:34,054 So my band started to become popular bands in school. 189 00:09:34,121 --> 00:09:36,421 Harlequin is mine post high school-- 190 00:09:36,487 --> 00:09:41,387 My first band started playing in a little club 191 00:09:41,487 --> 00:09:42,854 But somewhere along the way, 192 00:09:42,954 --> 00:09:46,521 I was offered the opportunity to join a band bar that works, 193 00:09:46,621 --> 00:09:49,488 which is hardly the Harlequin band is 194 00:09:49,555 --> 00:09:51,022 They are called Merak. 195 00:09:51,122 --> 00:09:53,022 But it will happen give me a chance 196 00:09:53,088 --> 00:09:55,255 to really make a living 197 00:09:55,322 --> 00:09:58,522 And I think I will really hone my skills. 198 00:09:58,588 --> 00:10:02,388 So I left a much better band to join a weaker band. 199 00:10:09,088 --> 00:10:11,222 People can't forget it as we see it. 200 00:10:11,288 --> 00:10:13,588 Actually there aren't anyone else out there on the scene 201 00:10:13,855 --> 00:10:15,555 it's doing anything like what we do 202 00:10:21,356 --> 00:10:23,323 We will kiss it in the Bowie medley. 203 00:10:23,423 --> 00:10:25,523 And that will happen outrageous, but cool. 204 00:10:25,589 --> 00:10:27,523 And the chicks will dig it, and we will lay a lot. 205 00:10:27,589 --> 00:10:30,389 We got this dog collar - 206 00:10:30,456 --> 00:10:34,589 quite severe, you know, like this is high, and buttons. 207 00:10:34,856 --> 00:10:38,156 And we have a chain and we will do it Chain with each other together. 208 00:10:38,223 --> 00:10:41,323 One thing we must be careful about though is to make sure 209 00:10:41,389 --> 00:10:43,189 the amplifier is grounded correctly 210 00:10:43,256 --> 00:10:45,423 If not, you will get it a surprise. 211 00:10:45,524 --> 00:10:47,390 We have very cheap trucks. 212 00:10:47,490 --> 00:10:49,590 And we can to make $ 150 a night, 213 00:10:49,857 --> 00:10:51,857 six nights a week play in one club 214 00:10:51,957 --> 00:10:53,890 You really can make money. 215 00:10:53,957 --> 00:10:59,157 I mean, without sounding like my father, 216 00:10:59,224 --> 00:11:01,357 gas is, you know, 29 cents per gallon 217 00:11:01,424 --> 00:11:03,924 and a hotel for $ 39 a night, 218 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:05,990 and truck rentals like 50 bucks a week 219 00:11:06,057 --> 00:11:07,957 I mean you can actually function 220 00:11:08,957 --> 00:11:11,957 We get a band performance at home Mad Hatter in the Hamptons, 221 00:11:12,024 --> 00:11:14,491 which is this big nightclub on Long Island. 222 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:18,491 For summer '73, 15 weeks in a row, stay above the club. 223 00:11:18,591 --> 00:11:19,525 We are 20 224 00:11:19,625 --> 00:11:20,625 What do you think? 225 00:11:20,891 --> 00:11:25,425 I mean it's ridiculous. That is fun. 226 00:11:25,525 --> 00:11:29,158 That's crazy. There are women everywhere. 227 00:11:29,225 --> 00:11:32,325 The place will be truly packed shoulder to shoulder. 228 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:33,425 People go crazy. 229 00:11:33,491 --> 00:11:36,958 The only problem is Michael will get drunk because the night will continue, 230 00:11:37,058 --> 00:11:41,025 and we only play less music Michael will start, like, drool. 231 00:11:41,091 --> 00:11:45,326 That, like, well I shouldn't say funny, 232 00:11:45,392 --> 00:11:47,492 but when you look on stage 233 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,992 and you don't see the front man up there 234 00:11:51,092 --> 00:11:53,526 and you wonder - and one of you your guard or bartender 235 00:11:53,626 --> 00:11:55,592 tells you, "Bob, he's here..." 236 00:11:55,859 --> 00:11:57,192 And I, "Where?" 237 00:11:57,259 --> 00:11:59,892 He fell off the stage. He is on the side of the stage. 238 00:11:59,992 --> 00:12:01,492 I mean, what kind of thing, you know. 239 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,559 But the whole band is drunk. 240 00:12:03,859 --> 00:12:06,459 Mel fell in the drum chair one night. 241 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,592 I remember he drank something like nine Rusty Nails. 242 00:12:08,892 --> 00:12:11,059 He collapsed. Billy fell. 243 00:12:11,126 --> 00:12:12,627 Kenny is drunk all the time. 244 00:12:12,927 --> 00:12:15,160 I am surrounded by alcoholics, and I don't drink. 245 00:12:15,227 --> 00:12:16,427 But we made music 246 00:12:16,493 --> 00:12:18,260 and we are clear make people happy 247 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,893 And this band becomes bigger 248 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,193 and finally we succeed into the second summer 249 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:24,093 We are a home band in East OBI, 250 00:12:24,193 --> 00:12:26,493 which is a club 10 times the size of the Hamptons. 251 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:27,627 ... we must be good. 252 00:12:27,893 --> 00:12:30,393 Unfortunately, we don't have it the ability to use it. 253 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:32,593 Our management really doesn't understand what we are 254 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:35,027 It's like trying to throw a saddle on an atomic bomb. 255 00:12:35,093 --> 00:12:37,327 You know you like it rather hold the sucker as long as possible 256 00:12:37,427 --> 00:12:38,860 before the whole things explode. 257 00:12:38,927 --> 00:12:41,227 And in this case with Twisted, no one can control it 258 00:12:41,293 --> 00:12:43,628 And finally the alcohol dismantled the band 259 00:12:43,928 --> 00:12:46,394 Well, we decided to get rid of it Michael and Billy. 260 00:12:46,461 --> 00:12:49,094 So we tried to find out what to do next. 261 00:12:49,194 --> 00:12:51,028 We need new singers and new guitar players. 262 00:12:51,094 --> 00:12:53,061 We contacted a man named Keith Angel, 263 00:12:53,128 --> 00:12:55,594 He works with a singer named Rick Prince. 264 00:12:55,861 --> 00:12:57,228 And they are both transplanted. 265 00:12:57,294 --> 00:12:58,394 And that's good. 266 00:12:58,494 --> 00:13:00,428 Except in the history of from Twisted Sister, 267 00:13:00,528 --> 00:13:02,928 Rick Prince is there for a total of nine weeks. 268 00:13:02,994 --> 00:13:04,294 Rick only one day shows no show, 269 00:13:04,394 --> 00:13:05,494 and we never heard of it from him again 270 00:13:05,494 --> 00:13:07,228 So now, the question is, What are you doing? 271 00:13:07,294 --> 00:13:08,328 We don't have singers. 272 00:13:08,428 --> 00:13:10,361 I am very sick depending on people. 273 00:13:10,429 --> 00:13:11,929 I thought, well, I would sing. 274 00:13:12,029 --> 00:13:13,329 Because I know I will appear on the gig. 275 00:13:13,429 --> 00:13:15,295 But I'm very limited vocal abilities. 276 00:13:15,395 --> 00:13:17,462 God created Dylan so I can do cover material. 277 00:13:17,562 --> 00:13:20,062 So the point is I become the main singer, 278 00:13:20,129 --> 00:13:22,195 and it changes the focus of the songs 279 00:13:22,295 --> 00:13:24,095 We do Kinks songs now. 280 00:13:24,195 --> 00:13:27,195 We are Mott's song, more Lou Reed, 281 00:13:27,262 --> 00:13:28,195 so I can sing. 282 00:13:28,262 --> 00:13:31,629 So now the band has four members, and we're working 283 00:13:32,862 --> 00:13:34,462 My days in Peacock, 284 00:13:34,529 --> 00:13:37,095 P as in urination, C like in chickens - You are on the left 285 00:13:37,095 --> 00:13:39,496 can see urinating, you on the right can see chicken - 286 00:13:39,496 --> 00:13:41,930 that's what the keyboard ordinary player says 287 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:44,030 In Peacock I have the opportunity to hone my skills 288 00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:46,430 five days a week, five sets of nights 289 00:13:46,496 --> 00:13:48,896 But also buildings a name for myself locally 290 00:13:48,963 --> 00:13:52,563 I know that Twisted Sister is a name in the club scene. 291 00:13:52,630 --> 00:13:55,196 I used to see them in the local newspaper, 292 00:13:55,263 --> 00:13:57,630 and from hearing about them, people will talk about it 293 00:13:57,896 --> 00:14:01,296 Mott The Hoople, Lou Reed, You know, David Bowie, 294 00:14:01,363 --> 00:14:02,330 it's their thing 295 00:14:02,396 --> 00:14:05,863 I like all that. I love all that. 296 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:09,331 So I am very interested in dealing with some people 297 00:14:09,397 --> 00:14:10,597 like who goes into it 298 00:14:10,864 --> 00:14:12,897 This new version from Twisted Sister, 299 00:14:12,997 --> 00:14:14,931 winding road to summer 300 00:14:15,031 --> 00:14:18,564 We lost our big show on OBI, and I can feel it 301 00:14:18,631 --> 00:14:20,564 if we don't do it something drastic, 302 00:14:20,631 --> 00:14:21,931 This band won't last long. 303 00:14:22,031 --> 00:14:25,131 And my agent suggested we get n - the main vocalist 304 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:27,531 And he suggested this child is Danny Snider, 305 00:14:27,597 --> 00:14:29,231 from a band called Merak. 306 00:14:29,331 --> 00:14:31,631 And I told Mel and Keith in the locker room 307 00:14:31,897 --> 00:14:34,931 that I bring a man down who shows real interest 308 00:14:34,997 --> 00:14:36,097 as the main singer. 309 00:14:36,197 --> 00:14:38,332 I should be aware of from their responses 310 00:14:38,398 --> 00:14:39,932 that this won't work well. 311 00:14:39,998 --> 00:14:41,098 They leave, "No, there's no reason 312 00:14:41,165 --> 00:14:43,998 why do we need singers We're fine." 313 00:14:44,098 --> 00:14:45,265 Well, we're not okay. 314 00:14:45,365 --> 00:14:48,565 I remember he came and said, "I am what you need, 315 00:14:48,865 --> 00:14:50,932 I can do this, I can put you on top." 316 00:14:51,032 --> 00:14:53,332 I say, "Yes of course, you know, go." 317 00:14:53,432 --> 00:14:55,298 And I said, "OK." And when I walk away, 318 00:14:55,398 --> 00:14:58,165 Jay Jay is pragmatically - always pragmatic - 319 00:14:58,232 --> 00:15:00,965 said, "You know, give me your telephone number just in case." 320 00:15:02,265 --> 00:15:04,865 We play a performance at Batu Palace 321 00:15:04,965 --> 00:15:07,399 on Lake Carmel on Labor Day '75 weekend, 322 00:15:07,499 --> 00:15:11,033 and after that night that we played, 323 00:15:11,099 --> 00:15:14,333 Mel and Keith take the truck 324 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:18,133 And basically, "Fuck and Kenny. Give another injection? " 325 00:15:22,899 --> 00:15:25,633 326 00:15:25,899 --> 00:15:27,333 327 00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:30,933 328 00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:34,099 329 00:15:36,534 --> 00:15:39,134 I said, "Well I can call my parents Guitar players from high school, 330 00:15:45,134 --> 00:15:46,967 I'm always in a band that works, 331 00:15:47,034 --> 00:15:49,067 I always play for life. 332 00:15:49,134 --> 00:15:50,267 When Jay Jay first gave I know 333 00:15:50,334 --> 00:15:52,567 but there is something... You have to play dance. 334 00:15:52,867 --> 00:15:54,867 We look around for drummer 335 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,067 and find Kevin John Grace and basically try to collect 336 00:16:03,134 --> 00:16:06,368 some of the same ingredients we used to have 337 00:16:06,468 --> 00:16:08,001 338 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:11,968 339 00:16:12,068 --> 00:16:13,635 340 00:16:13,901 --> 00:16:16,635 We try to do a four pieces, and that's cool. 341 00:16:16,901 --> 00:16:19,401 We do more like Rolling Stones items, 342 00:16:19,501 --> 00:16:20,901 more middle of the road rock. 343 00:16:21,001 --> 00:16:22,901 I am now exposed as a singer. 344 00:16:23,001 --> 00:16:25,401 So we used to do songs and I would berate the audience 345 00:16:25,501 --> 00:16:27,268 and try to get it clap with us 346 00:16:27,335 --> 00:16:29,901 Hustle them in any way I can to try to get a reaction, 347 00:16:29,968 --> 00:16:30,868 because we are sucked, 348 00:16:30,868 --> 00:16:32,535 or I think we are sucked or I am not confident 349 00:16:32,535 --> 00:16:36,069 in what we do, and I think is good, if I can't do it - 350 00:16:36,169 --> 00:16:37,336 if we can't play better, 351 00:16:37,436 --> 00:16:40,069 I will beat them to death until they clap. 352 00:16:40,169 --> 00:16:42,402 It's fun but it's isn't - like, 353 00:16:42,469 --> 00:16:44,402 we certainly only cover band. 354 00:16:44,502 --> 00:16:47,002 That only happens a pleasant closing band 355 00:16:47,102 --> 00:16:51,969 I have a desire to return to where I just got - 356 00:16:52,036 --> 00:16:53,236 forget more than that. 357 00:16:53,302 --> 00:16:57,402 I've - I feel, like I said, 2,000 people at the bar. 358 00:16:57,502 --> 00:16:58,936 I feel the power of a band. 359 00:16:59,002 --> 00:17:01,036 I want that, man, I really want it 360 00:17:01,102 --> 00:17:03,370 So we know we have doing something. 361 00:17:03,437 --> 00:17:06,337 So we decided, let's sing. 362 00:17:06,437 --> 00:17:09,503 And so on... 363 00:17:09,603 --> 00:17:11,103 I called Dee again. 364 00:17:11,203 --> 00:17:15,503 And he invited me to come to Hunter Mountain 365 00:17:15,603 --> 00:17:17,503 This band is ordered for the weekend 366 00:17:17,603 --> 00:17:19,470 We can audition, and if successful, 367 00:17:19,537 --> 00:17:21,970 we can practice, and we can play that weekend. 368 00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:23,903 This happened to become my big audition 369 00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:26,870 and my big shot at the star. 370 00:17:28,070 --> 00:17:30,070 So we finally gave him a chance, 371 00:17:30,137 --> 00:17:32,438 and we are amazed how good he is. 372 00:17:32,538 --> 00:17:34,471 And one of the biggest things like, 373 00:17:34,571 --> 00:17:36,538 uh, he doesn't drink! 374 00:17:38,271 --> 00:17:40,271 After I auditioned for me, 375 00:17:40,338 --> 00:17:43,104 Jay Jay took me out and he rather said, 376 00:17:43,204 --> 00:17:47,238 "Well, I have a name, and I have a P.A. system. 377 00:17:47,338 --> 00:17:48,338 Are you cool with that?" 378 00:17:48,404 --> 00:17:50,104 And I said, "Yeah, okay." 379 00:17:50,204 --> 00:17:54,104 And he said, "OK, we will see how it goes." 380 00:17:54,204 --> 00:17:56,638 I have never been officially informed, "You entered 381 00:17:56,904 --> 00:17:58,571 That's just, " We'll see how it goes. " 382 00:17:58,638 --> 00:18:03,139 So I've been on a basic trial for the past 35 years. 383 00:18:03,205 --> 00:18:05,872 You know, I don't know, I'm waiting to get a call. 384 00:18:08,905 --> 00:18:11,172 So we started practicing with Kevin 385 00:18:11,272 --> 00:18:14,439 And that's a problem because Kevin drums aren't that good, 386 00:18:14,505 --> 00:18:16,039 and we know That is the next issue. 387 00:18:16,105 --> 00:18:19,039 Jay Jay has a friend named Tony Petrie, 388 00:18:21,339 --> 00:18:24,372 Jay Jay said, "This guy Tony is a hard hiter, 389 00:18:24,472 --> 00:18:27,305 he's a great drummer, and he is in 390 00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:32,440 So, uh, we started the training behind the back Kevin John Grace. 391 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:34,873 We formed a pattern in Twisted Sister 392 00:18:34,873 --> 00:18:36,873 that you don't fire a man until you have a new man ready 393 00:18:36,873 --> 00:18:38,273 because you can't afford lose date 394 00:18:38,306 --> 00:18:41,306 So we practice with Tony, we prepare Tony. 395 00:18:41,406 --> 00:18:43,306 We tell Kevin it's over. 396 00:18:43,406 --> 00:18:49,040 And now with my band and Dee and Tony and Kenny and Eddie, 397 00:18:49,106 --> 00:18:52,206 the current band makes frontal attacks 398 00:18:52,273 --> 00:18:54,073 in the Long Island bar scene. 399 00:18:54,140 --> 00:18:57,206 Let's go! 400 00:19:00,507 --> 00:19:02,441 Come on, baby! You all know the words, this - 401 00:19:02,507 --> 00:19:04,307 Hey bro! 402 00:19:04,374 --> 00:19:05,307 ♪ Hey man ♪ 403 00:19:05,374 --> 00:19:07,041 ♪ Ah leave me alone you know ♪ 404 00:19:07,141 --> 00:19:08,107 ♪ Hey man ♪ 405 00:19:08,174 --> 00:19:10,007 ♪ Well Henry, get off the phone, I have to ♪ 406 00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:11,007 ♪ Hey man ♪ 407 00:19:11,107 --> 00:19:12,307 ♪ I have to straighten my face ♪ 408 00:19:12,407 --> 00:19:15,574 ♪ This soft little girl put my spine from the place ♪ 409 00:19:15,641 --> 00:19:16,574 ♪ Hey man ♪ 410 00:19:16,641 --> 00:19:18,207 ♪ My school day is crazy ♪ 411 00:19:18,307 --> 00:19:19,374 ♪ Hey man ♪ 412 00:19:19,441 --> 00:19:20,541 ♪ My work is in vain ♪ 413 00:19:20,607 --> 00:19:22,074 ♪ Hey man ♪ 414 00:19:22,174 --> 00:19:23,574 ♪ Well, he's really blurry ♪ 415 00:19:23,641 --> 00:19:26,241 ♪ He said he had to blackmail him but he... then he... ♪ 416 00:19:26,341 --> 00:19:29,208 ♪ Ah don't lean on me, man, Because you can't pay for tickets ♪ 417 00:19:29,308 --> 00:19:31,475 ♪ I returned from City Suffragette ♪ 418 00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:33,242 ♪ Oh don't lean on me, man ♪ 419 00:19:33,342 --> 00:19:35,042 ♪ Because you don't have time to examine it ♪ 420 00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:37,042 ♪ You know me City of Suffragette... ♪ 421 00:19:37,108 --> 00:19:40,508 I remember my father was in a show 422 00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:43,275 And my father is very blunt about that. He said, 423 00:19:43,375 --> 00:19:47,008 "You are pretty boring until you He takes him on stage." 424 00:19:47,075 --> 00:19:49,042 ♪ Ohhh, Wham Bam Thank you, Ma'am ♪ 425 00:19:50,975 --> 00:19:52,875 ♪ Suffragette City ♪ 426 00:19:53,408 --> 00:19:56,075 ♪ Suffragette City ♪ 427 00:19:56,175 --> 00:19:58,409 ♪ Suffragette! ♪ 428 00:19:59,409 --> 00:20:01,876 ♪ Oh, Suffragette! ♪ 429 00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,243 So when Dee joined band, he said, 430 00:20:05,309 --> 00:20:07,243 "Oh, let's use make-up and you know, 431 00:20:07,343 --> 00:20:08,909 and return to that view." 432 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:13,476 Listen, honey? 433 00:20:13,543 --> 00:20:16,376 Maybe it's hot but we will make it hotter! 434 00:20:18,643 --> 00:20:21,909 ♪ Doo doo doo-doo doo doo doo doo ♪ 435 00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:26,644 ♪ You have your mother in a vortex ♪ 436 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:29,877 ♪ He is not sure if you are boys or girls ♪ 437 00:20:29,944 --> 00:20:32,510 ♪ Hey, baby, your hair is fine ♪ 438 00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:35,910 ♪ Hey, baby, let's go out tonight... ♪ 439 00:20:35,977 --> 00:20:39,344 Little by little we just started being very striking 440 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:42,444 and use more make-up and arrange hair 441 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:44,577 and you know, clothes and goods, 442 00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:48,310 and steal our mother's clothes and things like that. 443 00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:52,010 But I only really took one - two shirts from my mother 444 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:53,644 It's not like I stole all his clothes. 445 00:20:54,445 --> 00:20:56,445 ♪ You like the band when they play hard ♪ 446 00:20:56,511 --> 00:20:59,911 ♪ You want more and you want fast ♪ 447 00:21:00,011 --> 00:21:02,611 ♪ They drop you, they say I'm wrong ♪ 448 00:21:02,878 --> 00:21:05,945 ♪ You are tacky, You put them in... ♪ 449 00:21:06,045 --> 00:21:07,411 As far as the image goes, 450 00:21:07,478 --> 00:21:11,211 I, like I said, looking to get more adventures. 451 00:21:12,878 --> 00:21:14,445 Then I met Suzette. 452 00:21:14,511 --> 00:21:18,278 Both I am 15 and I am borrowing my cousin, I.D., 453 00:21:18,378 --> 00:21:21,611 which is much older than me, but I see - I don't see 15. 454 00:21:25,012 --> 00:21:29,146 So I slipped in, and I went to go see the girl band, Twisted Sister. 455 00:21:29,212 --> 00:21:31,979 I thought they would become a group of girls, but it didn't. 456 00:21:32,046 --> 00:21:34,112 They are a group of men who try look like girls 457 00:21:34,179 --> 00:21:37,446 I was a little blown away away when this big guy-- 458 00:21:37,512 --> 00:21:39,546 because Dee's 6'1 "- and he uses, 459 00:21:39,612 --> 00:21:42,246 I think, like an eight-inch platform, 460 00:21:42,346 --> 00:21:43,512 with a little hot pants 461 00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:47,979 He doesn't look attractive. He looks creepy, 462 00:21:48,046 --> 00:21:50,346 but outside on stage. 463 00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:56,080 And Dee misled me with a smile, like, I came to her. 464 00:21:56,147 --> 00:21:57,980 And Dee slowly approached me, 465 00:21:58,047 --> 00:22:00,147 and he bent at his side from the stage 466 00:22:00,247 --> 00:22:02,180 and he kinda gave me this one . 467 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:08,147 And I kind of felt like I was like being sucked into a vortex. 468 00:22:08,213 --> 00:22:09,547 He thinks I look ridiculous 469 00:22:09,613 --> 00:22:12,013 and if I will do it I must be better at it. 470 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,613 So he started to encourage me to wear lipstick 471 00:22:15,913 --> 00:22:19,613 And me, "Hey, I'm not gay." 472 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,381 This is a strange thing to say. 473 00:22:21,448 --> 00:22:24,414 I wear stockings and hot pants when I meet him, 474 00:22:24,514 --> 00:22:26,148 and high thigh leather boots and gloves. 475 00:22:26,214 --> 00:22:28,914 You know - "I Dee, Blow Me" my shirt said. 476 00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:30,881 But for me it's like the 477 00:22:30,948 --> 00:22:31,881 line You know, Do you wear lipstick? 478 00:22:31,948 --> 00:22:34,214 I don't wear lipstick. And I remember he said, 479 00:22:34,314 --> 00:22:37,614 "Well, I have this little tray lip glossing." 480 00:22:37,914 --> 00:22:40,614 And here at the bottom is just clear. 481 00:22:40,914 --> 00:22:43,381 And at the other end is bright red. 482 00:22:45,081 --> 00:22:48,148 And I'm like, "Okay, obviously. But you know. 483 00:22:48,214 --> 00:22:49,514 I'm not gay." Okay. 484 00:22:49,614 --> 00:22:50,582 Clear the gloss. 485 00:22:50,649 --> 00:22:52,415 And I quickly ran out of the compartment 486 00:22:52,515 --> 00:22:55,115 and the next one a little beige-ish. 487 00:22:55,215 --> 00:22:56,515 So I go through that. 488 00:22:56,615 --> 00:22:59,415 OK about one dozen. 489 00:22:59,482 --> 00:23:01,982 At the moment I ran out of the last, 490 00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:04,015 the color is red like red. 491 00:23:04,082 --> 00:23:06,082 I'm just full of red breath. 492 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:11,482 We think will be a good idea 493 00:23:11,582 --> 00:23:12,649 to get a band house 494 00:23:12,915 --> 00:23:15,015 The idea of being that we will live together, 495 00:23:15,082 --> 00:23:18,949 we will create together, we will be bound 496 00:23:19,015 --> 00:23:21,416 And we rent houses in a very nice environment 497 00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:25,150 in Massapequa, Long Island-- Old Harbor Greene. 498 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:27,250 And we all move. 499 00:23:31,283 --> 00:23:33,416 We work all night and then we go home. 500 00:23:33,416 --> 00:23:34,550 We will sleep. We will wake up. 501 00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:36,316 We will meet in the kitchen every day 502 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:37,616 So this is our life. 503 00:23:38,416 --> 00:23:39,450 One two three four! 504 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:47,516 ♪ When I'm on a rock 'n' roll band ♪ 505 00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:50,651 ♪ And I play ' one night stands ♪ 506 00:23:50,951 --> 00:23:53,217 ♪ And I said I want be your man ♪ 507 00:23:53,284 --> 00:23:55,351 ♪ And that's fine ♪ 508 00:23:56,917 --> 00:23:59,417 ♪ But T says that we don't make it ♪ 509 00:23:59,517 --> 00:24:02,984 ♪ Even though it's invaded ♪ 510 00:24:03,084 --> 00:24:06,351 ♪ The situation is tired and it is evil ♪ 511 00:24:07,651 --> 00:24:08,951 What happened, rather than bring 512 00:24:09,017 --> 00:24:12,584 band together and bind us, 513 00:24:12,884 --> 00:24:15,351 my isolation starts in that house 514 00:24:15,451 --> 00:24:20,518 I really want to be hung with these people 515 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:23,118 They are older than me. They are from Manhattan. 516 00:24:23,218 --> 00:24:26,352 They are from the Bronx. They have been on Twisted Sister. 517 00:24:26,452 --> 00:24:29,318 You know. They are these cool people. 518 00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:33,985 And I'm 21 years old from Long Island, 519 00:24:34,052 --> 00:24:36,318 a rube, a dork, 520 00:24:36,385 --> 00:24:40,618 and I don't have nearly cool credibility 521 00:24:40,885 --> 00:24:42,218 that they have any way. 522 00:24:42,285 --> 00:24:44,452 And I really admire them and look at them. 523 00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:48,319 Jay Jay is our manager. 524 00:24:48,419 --> 00:24:49,919 Kevin is our agent. 525 00:24:49,986 --> 00:24:53,653 And we are meeting and discussing the original 526 00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:55,919 and we are talking about everything "Can't stand still," 527 00:24:56,019 --> 00:24:58,519 "For One Minute," and "Wife TV," "Follow me." 528 00:24:58,619 --> 00:25:00,253 He hates his songs which we do 529 00:25:00,353 --> 00:25:02,919 And, of course, Dee becomes Dee not polite about that 530 00:25:02,986 --> 00:25:04,886 Not that he left, "Hey, you know..." 531 00:25:04,986 --> 00:25:06,219 I just exclaim, 532 00:25:06,286 --> 00:25:08,653 and just say, "These songs - I don't like these songs. 533 00:25:08,919 --> 00:25:12,019 They aren't right for this band. They're not very good songs. 534 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,486 They won't make a difference. Bla blah blah... " 535 00:25:14,553 --> 00:25:16,054 And I just fence, 536 00:25:16,154 --> 00:25:20,020 and Kevin Brenner said, "Do you write songs?" 537 00:25:20,087 --> 00:25:21,920 And I said, "Yes." 538 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,554 I've written it with Harlequin-- 539 00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:25,020 co-written one. 540 00:25:25,087 --> 00:25:29,320 And he said, "Do you have one? there is a song... to submit?" 541 00:25:29,387 --> 00:25:30,487 And I said, "No." 542 00:25:30,587 --> 00:25:32,887 And he said, "OK until you do it." 543 00:25:34,487 --> 00:25:37,054 I came to Jay Jay with an idea for a song, 544 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,387 and I don't remember that 545 00:25:38,487 --> 00:25:41,287 I am very nervous bring it to him 546 00:25:41,387 --> 00:25:43,887 Jay Jay, of course, is unconscious 547 00:25:43,987 --> 00:25:45,988 the importance of from what happened to me 548 00:25:46,055 --> 00:25:49,055 And when I present the song He and I sing it for him 549 00:25:49,155 --> 00:25:51,021 and I'm very nervous 550 00:25:51,088 --> 00:25:53,421 and uncomfortable sing this song 551 00:25:53,521 --> 00:25:55,221 Jay Jay says, 552 00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:59,521 "Oh, that's about you and Suzette? Cute." 553 00:25:59,588 --> 00:26:01,588 And he turned, 554 00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:05,621 and start an conversation with other people 555 00:26:05,888 --> 00:26:10,355 And indeed a big mistake. 556 00:26:12,221 --> 00:26:13,922 Depends on how you see it. 557 00:26:13,989 --> 00:26:15,522 I mean if you see it as 558 00:26:15,589 --> 00:26:18,489 driving, motivating strength for me 559 00:26:18,556 --> 00:26:22,922 to prove Jay Jay and the world 560 00:26:23,022 --> 00:26:24,122 that I am someone, 561 00:26:24,189 --> 00:26:29,322 and encouragement for me become this maniac songwriter 562 00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,056 who just started rummaging through songs 563 00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:32,889 with ridiculous speed - 564 00:26:34,389 --> 00:26:36,489 If you see it like that, then it's a good thing. 565 00:26:36,556 --> 00:26:39,289 But that really keeps me away from the band, 566 00:26:39,356 --> 00:26:41,089 and I just go to my own world 567 00:26:41,156 --> 00:26:44,490 and I started creating apart from the band. 568 00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:50,390 My only goal is to eliminate Jay Jay French and his song 569 00:26:50,490 --> 00:26:53,423 and take over songwriting altogether. 570 00:26:53,490 --> 00:26:56,057 I'm crazy 571 00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:57,323 and evil 572 00:26:57,423 --> 00:26:59,157 And uh... 573 00:27:00,557 --> 00:27:02,023 I do it. 574 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:06,590 ♪ You and me, We light a fire ♪ 575 00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:10,923 ♪ We build it, baby, My desire ♪ 576 00:27:10,990 --> 00:27:14,324 ♪ But now you say I'm over ♪ 577 00:27:14,391 --> 00:27:18,591 ♪ Be careful, honey, Don't make me choose it ♪ 578 00:27:18,658 --> 00:27:23,024 ♪ Oh, always, Oh, always ♪ 579 00:27:23,124 --> 00:27:24,624 ♪ Must pay the price ♪ 580 00:27:24,891 --> 00:27:27,024 ♪ Oughta hears who wants to be loved for free ♪ 581 00:27:27,124 --> 00:27:28,524 ♪ Must pay the price ♪ 582 00:27:28,591 --> 00:27:32,891 ♪ Oh, pay the price to love me, huh... ♪ 583 00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,424 Dee doesn't suit me. 584 00:27:34,524 --> 00:27:36,924 But again, I am a pragmatic. 585 00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:39,058 I need a singer, I'm not a singer 586 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:42,159 I mean, I need someone that and if it comes with baggage 587 00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:45,059 I am ready to install with luggage to a certain level. 588 00:27:46,292 --> 00:27:48,559 That is "Come Back." That is "Pay Price." 589 00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:51,459 I think it's the first song. 590 00:27:51,525 --> 00:27:53,259 That's when I kinda go, "Wow, 591 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,392 that person has... There's something there." 592 00:27:55,492 --> 00:27:57,192 ♪ Pay price ♪ 593 00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:01,225 ♪ Oh, pay the price to love me, yeah ♪ 594 00:28:01,292 --> 00:28:03,892 ♪ To love you, yes... ♪ 595 00:28:16,393 --> 00:28:17,626 When I joined this band, 596 00:28:17,926 --> 00:28:22,926 Jay Jay already has a relationship with the audience. 597 00:28:22,993 --> 00:28:24,926 I think that's what you will call it A relationship where he will speak between songs 598 00:28:24,993 --> 00:28:27,226 There is a certain song where will he go 599 00:28:27,293 --> 00:28:29,126 600 00:28:29,193 --> 00:28:31,093 for a little audience participation or whatever 601 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,593 So that definitely has 602 00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:38,127 for my memory, and I will do it just stand aside. 603 00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:41,294 We will finish a song and I will retreat, 604 00:28:41,361 --> 00:28:44,294 Jay Jay will speak. maybe I throw a word or two here. 605 00:28:44,361 --> 00:28:45,994 But this is Jay Jay's band, 606 00:28:46,061 --> 00:28:48,294 You know I joined Twisted Sister. 607 00:28:48,361 --> 00:28:51,194 And I am the child and he is an experienced pro. 608 00:28:51,261 --> 00:28:53,994 As summer begins, women and men, 609 00:28:54,094 --> 00:28:57,027 and we all party ourselves to death, 610 00:28:57,094 --> 00:29:00,394 We want to welcome you to the summer of '77 611 00:29:00,461 --> 00:29:03,661 with a song titled, "Jane is sweet!" 612 00:29:16,895 --> 00:29:19,062 ♪ Standin 'in the corner ♪ 613 00:29:19,162 --> 00:29:23,495 ♪ Suitcase in my hand ♪ 614 00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:25,428 ♪ Jack in his corset, Jane in her vest ♪ 615 00:29:25,495 --> 00:29:29,028 ♪ I'm on the rock 'n' roll band ♪ 616 00:29:29,095 --> 00:29:31,628 I sang "Sweet Jane" and that is mine 617 00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:35,262 And somewhere in the middle of from "Sweet Jane," one night, 618 00:29:35,362 --> 00:29:38,996 I will get the audience to sing the phrase "Sweet Jane" I stopped the show. 619 00:29:39,063 --> 00:29:40,063 ♪ Sweet Jane ♪ 620 00:29:46,463 --> 00:29:48,196 Now as easy or what? 621 00:29:49,063 --> 00:29:51,463 And I said, what do you know? 622 00:29:51,563 --> 00:29:52,496 623 00:29:52,596 --> 00:29:54,329 Why don't we get a partner? people on stage 624 00:29:54,329 --> 00:29:55,329 and sing together. 625 00:29:55,396 --> 00:29:58,396 So we invite people on stage to sing together. 626 00:29:58,496 --> 00:30:01,063 And we have a big gong behind us, Because at "Gong Show," 627 00:30:01,129 --> 00:30:02,929 they will gong you if you suck 628 00:30:02,996 --> 00:30:04,496 So I will tell people to sing 629 00:30:04,596 --> 00:30:06,530 and then if they suck, my drummer will - 630 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:09,264 the audience is basically be like a Roman amphitheater. 631 00:30:09,364 --> 00:30:12,364 You know, "They suck." And he will get rid of it. 632 00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:15,097 And if they sing well, they will get a big round of applause. 633 00:30:15,164 --> 00:30:17,297 And that lasts several from weeks. 634 00:30:17,397 --> 00:30:19,430 But you know I need more. 635 00:30:19,497 --> 00:30:21,597 So I said to the bartender, 636 00:30:21,664 --> 00:30:24,330 "Send a few glasses of shots and give me some liquor 637 00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:26,930 and maybe we will take a picture something and try it." 638 00:30:26,997 --> 00:30:28,930 What are you looking for, people stoned? 639 00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:30,964 I'm looking for beer! 640 00:30:31,064 --> 00:30:34,365 So they send a bottle of tequila up or Wild Turkey or the like 641 00:30:34,431 --> 00:30:37,331 and maybe there are five or six girls and guys 642 00:30:37,398 --> 00:30:39,398 And we will try it and they will sing "Sweet Jane" 643 00:30:39,465 --> 00:30:41,998 and then they will only get more drunk and become stupid, 644 00:30:42,065 --> 00:30:43,365 and the reaction will get bigger, 645 00:30:43,431 --> 00:30:44,598 and crowds start to get bigger 646 00:30:45,265 --> 00:30:46,598 ♪ Sweet Jane ♪ 647 00:30:48,065 --> 00:30:49,565 ♪ Sweet Jane ♪ 648 00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:52,498 This is the big difference between us and all other bands. 649 00:30:52,565 --> 00:30:54,365 We don't play music here. We're nonsense 650 00:30:54,431 --> 00:30:56,598 We tell jokes. We just drunk people 651 00:30:56,665 --> 00:30:58,598 and tell them to sing "Jane sweet!" 652 00:30:58,898 --> 00:31:01,298 And make them laugh out loud the stage and their gonging. 653 00:31:01,365 --> 00:31:03,099 And more alcohol, and more alcohol enters 654 00:31:03,199 --> 00:31:05,499 And finally one night I thought we were six or seven shots in 655 00:31:05,566 --> 00:31:07,666 and some guys vomit on stage, 656 00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:10,266 and he is this big fat man - they call him Buddha 657 00:31:10,366 --> 00:31:13,632 And he throws up in a garbage basket 658 00:31:13,899 --> 00:31:15,332 and the place goes crazy. 659 00:31:15,399 --> 00:31:16,966 "Buddha, Buddha." And I think, 660 00:31:17,032 --> 00:31:19,132 Wow man... 661 00:31:19,199 --> 00:31:22,299 they vomit, and they love it. 662 00:31:22,366 --> 00:31:24,199 This... what is the picture! 663 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:26,432 So we will do "The Drop Till You Vomit Gong Show." 664 00:31:26,532 --> 00:31:29,499 No, this is "The Sweet Jane Drink Until you Puke Gong Show." 665 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,399 Right. That is what it is. 666 00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:33,967 Yes, believe it or not There are lines of people 667 00:31:34,067 --> 00:31:36,167 who can't wait to drink until they throw up 668 00:31:36,233 --> 00:31:40,033 I feel really messed up up now 669 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,900 And that's very good! 670 00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:46,967 A man actually turns around and puked. 671 00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:49,967 And then turn and say, 672 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:53,033 "Okay, I'm ready to go again." 673 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:54,533 That's evil... 674 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,367 unless you like vomiting. 675 00:31:57,233 --> 00:32:00,167 ♪ Some people like going out dancing, baby ♪ 676 00:32:00,233 --> 00:32:02,468 ♪ Well people like us, we have to work ♪ 677 00:32:02,534 --> 00:32:07,068 Last night we made they drank... 678 00:32:07,168 --> 00:32:08,468 Let me say to you this way... 679 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:10,434 Do you know how to do it? When you see a hot dog 680 00:32:10,434 --> 00:32:13,601 meal contest at Coney Island, skinny men always win? 681 00:32:13,668 --> 00:32:14,634 There are like fat people, 682 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:18,001 but like some small Japanese people dude eat 1,000 hot dogs? 683 00:32:18,101 --> 00:32:19,634 Well, that's down for Buddha 684 00:32:19,901 --> 00:32:22,034 and some really thin, Little dude, 685 00:32:22,134 --> 00:32:23,034 and they drink. 686 00:32:23,134 --> 00:32:26,034 And at some point at night, the bartender said, 687 00:32:26,134 --> 00:32:28,068 "I think you've given they are quite dead" - 688 00:32:28,168 --> 00:32:29,068 or something like-- 689 00:32:29,168 --> 00:32:31,569 "I think you've given them might turn off..." 690 00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:33,435 I mean, don't know! 691 00:32:33,535 --> 00:32:35,102 I hate this. I don't drink! 692 00:32:35,202 --> 00:32:37,335 I don't know what turns off the amount of alcohol or not. 693 00:32:37,435 --> 00:32:38,635 But it goes without saying, 694 00:32:38,935 --> 00:32:41,335 the winner gets a beer case, which is a joke 695 00:32:41,435 --> 00:32:43,402 So the child, the skinny kid wins 696 00:32:43,502 --> 00:32:45,902 and they submit the case to him and he is only colla-- 697 00:32:45,969 --> 00:32:47,902 He can't hold it back. He is so messed up! 698 00:32:47,969 --> 00:32:49,002 If we try it today, 699 00:32:49,102 --> 00:32:51,435 it's criminal - I'm sure we will all be imprisoned. 700 00:32:51,502 --> 00:32:54,302 Eh, they're not friendly this kind of thing again 701 00:32:54,402 --> 00:32:57,069 But back in those days was just good, clean fun! 702 00:32:58,402 --> 00:33:01,036 Long Island, you're outrageous! Thank you! 703 00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:06,170 I mean crazy stuff happens. 704 00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:08,436 And also embarrassing things happen. 705 00:33:08,503 --> 00:33:10,003 For example the World Series, 706 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:13,303 when the Yankees played in '77, we couldn't... 707 00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:14,603 People don't want us to play. 708 00:33:14,670 --> 00:33:16,136 The match will be on television. 709 00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:18,136 They have partners from TV sets there, 710 00:33:18,236 --> 00:33:20,236 and we will leave the stage - "Hey, shut up! 711 00:33:20,303 --> 00:33:22,270 We are watching damn Yankee games!" 712 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:24,003 We walk outside the stage and go, "Fuck, do you know what? 713 00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:26,070 We won't play until The World Series has ended!" 714 00:33:26,136 --> 00:33:27,936 So we will appear in... we will appear 715 00:33:28,004 --> 00:33:30,004 and just sit around until the bad game ends. 716 00:33:30,104 --> 00:33:32,337 And that, by the way, it's not the only time that happens. 717 00:33:32,404 --> 00:33:33,571 You know, you are a band bar, 718 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,271 You are only an additional until night 719 00:33:35,337 --> 00:33:38,104 Maybe this is another reason why we want to be loved 720 00:33:38,171 --> 00:33:40,304 and want to make something from ourselves. 721 00:33:40,371 --> 00:33:41,637 Because we are not like, 722 00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:43,504 "Oh, let's go to the bar! 723 00:33:43,604 --> 00:33:44,904 Oh, there's a band there." 724 00:33:44,971 --> 00:33:46,571 Yes, and indeed just damn-- 725 00:33:46,637 --> 00:33:49,404 they are only there to be-- to give us some background music 726 00:33:49,471 --> 00:33:51,971 while we find out how to get high and get put down. 727 00:33:52,037 --> 00:33:53,371 And we think, "No no No! 728 00:33:53,471 --> 00:33:55,204 " We are a band! We are more than that! 729 00:33:55,271 --> 00:33:56,371 "We are more than just background music 730 00:33:56,437 --> 00:33:59,905 for you to get high and laid! We are something!" 731 00:34:01,505 --> 00:34:03,272 Tonight we have a little message for you, 732 00:34:03,372 --> 00:34:06,972 women and men. Everybody reads it? 733 00:34:07,038 --> 00:34:09,572 It says, "Disco Fucking Sucks," Do you hear what I say? 734 00:34:09,672 --> 00:34:11,438 Now everyone, 735 00:34:11,538 --> 00:34:13,372 I want you to count from three to read the sign! 736 00:34:13,438 --> 00:34:15,038 Are you ready to go? 737 00:34:15,138 --> 00:34:19,072 One two three-- Disco Fuckin 'Sucks! 738 00:34:19,138 --> 00:34:21,305 Class, again! 739 00:34:21,372 --> 00:34:24,038 When you are on stage and do schtick 740 00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:27,339 You try to kill four hours a night, you know 741 00:34:27,406 --> 00:34:29,473 This is a lot to do, a lotta music to be played 742 00:34:29,539 --> 00:34:30,973 and you are looking for for other things 743 00:34:31,073 --> 00:34:33,506 to stretch it. 744 00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:36,273 And "Disco Sucks" becomes very large response from the audience 745 00:34:36,339 --> 00:34:39,473 so it quickly becomes something for us 746 00:34:39,539 --> 00:34:42,973 Dee or I say something like "Disco sucks." 747 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:44,606 Someone yells something. 748 00:34:44,906 --> 00:34:46,206 Maybe someone shouted, 749 00:34:46,306 --> 00:34:48,106 "Yeah, disco sucks!" 750 00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:50,439 Maybe. And we left, "Yeah, the disco sucks..." 751 00:34:50,506 --> 00:34:55,474 I don't know But the reaction For those words like whoo! 752 00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,374 It feels like you are lighting a fire, 753 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,140 Suddenly we see each other and go - Bingo! 754 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,274 Disco sucks! 755 00:35:01,374 --> 00:35:02,974 Disco sucks! 756 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,974 Disco sucks! 757 00:35:05,074 --> 00:35:08,340 They will go down to the record store 758 00:35:08,407 --> 00:35:11,007 and take many from disco singles 759 00:35:11,107 --> 00:35:14,640 And they will spread it on the stage. 760 00:35:14,907 --> 00:35:18,440 And then Dee will get it a big hammer hammer 761 00:35:18,507 --> 00:35:21,040 and you know everyone at the count of three - 762 00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:23,674 "Disco sucks!" and he will do it just take a sledgehammer 763 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:28,008 and bash damn fucking from fucking disco recordings, ahh! 764 00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:29,141 Disco sucks! 765 00:35:29,208 --> 00:35:30,375 Disco sucks! 766 00:35:30,475 --> 00:35:33,008 And that is part of club touring equipment 767 00:35:33,108 --> 00:35:34,041 is a sledgehammer 768 00:35:34,108 --> 00:35:37,075 You know, amplifier, guitar, hammer hammer 769 00:35:37,141 --> 00:35:40,508 And uh, it's about metal like you can get, right? 770 00:35:40,575 --> 00:35:44,308 ♪ Alright, I hate Disco music ♪ 771 00:35:44,408 --> 00:35:47,041 ♪ Because disco music really sucks ♪ 772 00:35:47,141 --> 00:35:50,941 ♪ Alright, I hate Disco music ♪ 773 00:35:51,041 --> 00:35:53,342 ♪ Because Disco really sucks ♪ 774 00:35:53,442 --> 00:35:55,509 Everyone will pump their arms in the air because you believe these people will save rock 'n' roll 775 00:35:55,609 --> 00:36:01,009 and stamp out dirty Disco, do you know? 776 00:36:01,076 --> 00:36:03,942 That - it's a real fight! 777 00:36:04,009 --> 00:36:06,142 There are people who are disco and there are rock people. 778 00:36:06,242 --> 00:36:08,509 And that, you know, no one met 779 00:36:08,576 --> 00:36:10,542 This is not a racial problem 780 00:36:10,642 --> 00:36:12,242 because so far because I'm worried, 781 00:36:12,309 --> 00:36:14,009 There are no African-Americans 782 00:36:14,076 --> 00:36:16,476 in one of these clubs to see one of these bands. 783 00:36:16,542 --> 00:36:19,176 It used to be-- for me seems 784 00:36:19,276 --> 00:36:21,576 a Brooklyn Cliché John Travolta 785 00:36:21,676 --> 00:36:25,043 786 00:36:25,143 --> 00:36:29,510 versus guys wearing jeans and t-shirts and sneakers. 787 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:33,677 And we are exploited sociological breaks. 788 00:36:33,943 --> 00:36:35,077 Are we using boys? 789 00:36:35,143 --> 00:36:36,377 harder! 790 00:36:36,477 --> 00:36:39,043 I hate Disco music... 791 00:36:39,110 --> 00:36:40,043 Why ?! 792 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:43,377 Because Disco really sucks! 793 00:36:43,443 --> 00:36:46,143 Kataku, Village People and Barry White, 794 00:36:46,243 --> 00:36:49,910 take a rocket to the moon and stay away from my sight! 795 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:53,378 ♪ Because I hate Disco music ♪ 796 00:36:53,444 --> 00:36:56,111 ♪ Because Disco really sucks, oh yeah... ♪ 797 00:36:56,178 --> 00:37:00,111 We decided to hold it back an experiment from Barry White 798 00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:02,611 and find him guilty of destroying American popular music 799 00:37:02,911 --> 00:37:06,944 They have this big mannequin wearing a tuxedo, 800 00:37:07,044 --> 00:37:09,944 with a long, curly black wig in 801 00:37:10,011 --> 00:37:11,544 and they will do it remove it and say, 802 00:37:11,644 --> 00:37:13,111 "Barry White can't be here tonight 803 00:37:13,211 --> 00:37:15,278 so we will only have to hang him on the statue. 804 00:37:15,378 --> 00:37:19,544 They will hang it, and then beat him like a piñata. And the crowd will go wild and "Kill him, kill him!" 805 00:37:19,644 --> 00:37:20,912 They will read, you know. 806 00:37:21,012 --> 00:37:23,412 So we are offstage think, 807 00:37:23,512 --> 00:37:24,479 "Yeah, it goes better. "You know? 808 00:37:24,545 --> 00:37:26,112 809 00:37:26,179 --> 00:37:28,445 810 00:37:28,512 --> 00:37:31,479 Well, I tell you something We do it for a while 811 00:37:31,579 --> 00:37:32,979 until we do it once in some rural cities 812 00:37:33,045 --> 00:37:35,245 in the northern part of New York-- Lake Carmel, Batu Palace. 813 00:37:35,345 --> 00:37:40,012 And we do our hanging from Barry White 814 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:44,179 and many people go crazy, like it. 815 00:37:44,245 --> 00:37:46,079 I think we even lower the body and start tearing it up. 816 00:37:46,145 --> 00:37:48,645 I mean we will really just enter into it 817 00:37:48,946 --> 00:37:50,346 And after this show is real The redneck club owner told us, 818 00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:54,913 "I don't know Barry White, 819 00:37:55,013 --> 00:37:56,346 but you survive a nigger in this city, 820 00:37:56,413 --> 00:37:58,046 821 00:37:58,146 --> 00:37:59,580 You are fine in my book. " 822 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,180 You know I'm like, " What ?! " He said," You hang a Negro. You can't go wrong! " 823 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,446 It feels like," Damn! " 824 00:38:04,513 --> 00:38:06,213 You know like us - Long Island, 825 00:38:06,313 --> 00:38:08,946 body, that's what - 826 00:38:09,046 --> 00:38:11,980 so far from our mind. 827 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,580 At a certain level I can laugh about that and that's absurdity. 828 00:38:14,646 --> 00:38:18,914 Besides that I'm sick of 829 00:38:18,981 --> 00:38:22,314 and uh the fact that I can have become part of anything 830 00:38:22,381 --> 00:38:25,614 it will definitely appear that response by anyone, 831 00:38:25,681 --> 00:38:30,047 the fact that I will bring negative energy to anyone, 832 00:38:30,147 --> 00:38:32,114 833 00:38:32,181 --> 00:38:34,947 really - you know, makes me sick 834 00:38:35,047 --> 00:38:37,414 And we immediately stopped it and continued to advance. 835 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,247 And our antidote to that 836 00:38:39,314 --> 00:38:42,481 to build an electric chair and Andrea Saute Right 837 00:38:46,948 --> 00:38:50,382 It must be around two months into our relationship, 838 00:38:50,482 --> 00:38:54,048 and I wear clothes that Dee was fascinated by. 839 00:38:55,282 --> 00:38:59,082 How beautiful I look and how beautiful the shirt is, 840 00:38:59,148 --> 00:39:03,348 and where I got it, and how amazing I looked. 841 00:39:03,415 --> 00:39:05,448 So about two weeks later I decided 842 00:39:05,448 --> 00:39:06,982 that I will go see him 843 00:39:06,982 --> 00:39:09,148 and I will wear this shirt that blew it away. 844 00:39:09,215 --> 00:39:12,448 And I will never forget pull to the bar 845 00:39:12,548 --> 00:39:15,015 And Dee is on stage, 846 00:39:15,082 --> 00:39:19,049 and he uses The same shirt I wear! 847 00:39:19,116 --> 00:39:20,183 I feel horrified. 848 00:39:20,249 --> 00:39:22,616 I mean, The worst thing you can imagine, 849 00:39:22,916 --> 00:39:25,416 You go somewhere and someone else uses what you wear 850 00:39:25,516 --> 00:39:27,083 But your girlfriend? 851 00:39:27,149 --> 00:39:30,383 So I said, "That's it. I will start making clothes. 852 00:39:30,483 --> 00:39:32,583 And this won't happen same I'm wearing! " 853 00:39:32,683 --> 00:39:34,216 Suzette humiliates me, costume 854 00:39:34,283 --> 00:39:35,483 855 00:39:35,549 --> 00:39:37,283 856 00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:39,649 857 00:39:39,916 --> 00:39:41,283 I will use whatever he makes, 858 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:43,916 and he made some silly clothes for me 859 00:39:44,016 --> 00:39:45,917 People used to feel embarrassed. 860 00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:48,417 Eddie will say, "How can you wear it on stage? 861 00:39:48,484 --> 00:39:50,217 All of your johnson are hanging out." 862 00:39:50,317 --> 00:39:54,250 I'm like Suzette who made it, I wear it. 863 00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:55,484 At the beginning, 864 00:39:55,584 --> 00:39:58,950 people start to call me Twisted Sister, 865 00:39:59,017 --> 00:40:03,684 because I am dressed one up, and the band doesn't. 866 00:40:03,984 --> 00:40:05,917 I know it's not right with band 867 00:40:06,017 --> 00:40:09,050 Jay Jay comes to me and Jay Jay confronts me 868 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:12,484 and ask me if I will start basically 869 00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:15,051 make a costume for everyone in the band. 870 00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:16,951 And I told you at all. 871 00:40:17,051 --> 00:40:20,918 And the whole band starts getting onboard one by one 872 00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:23,951 And slowly I started teaching everyone in the band 873 00:40:24,051 --> 00:40:25,251 how to make up, and start doing 874 00:40:25,351 --> 00:40:28,118 everyone's hair - everyone's clothes 875 00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:34,151 Twisted Sister is designed to flood the audience. 876 00:40:34,251 --> 00:40:36,985 You know, another band is just going with music 877 00:40:37,051 --> 00:40:38,618 Well, we also have music. 878 00:40:38,685 --> 00:40:41,118 But what can we do It has already passed the music? 879 00:40:41,185 --> 00:40:44,552 Well, the glam thing gives us the costume 880 00:40:44,619 --> 00:40:47,686 and then make-up, and then if there is a performance, 881 00:40:47,952 --> 00:40:49,386 or other implementations we can do-- 882 00:40:49,452 --> 00:40:52,519 whatever we can bring to the table 883 00:40:52,586 --> 00:40:56,186 to add weight towards us 884 00:40:56,252 --> 00:40:57,419 We succeed. 885 00:40:57,486 --> 00:41:00,619 So when another band will fight us 886 00:41:00,686 --> 00:41:03,386 if you enter, You know, and you have a bat, 887 00:41:03,486 --> 00:41:07,119 and others have bats and pistols and knives, 888 00:41:07,186 --> 00:41:08,352 you will lose 889 00:41:08,419 --> 00:41:10,119 So whatever they can do, 890 00:41:10,186 --> 00:41:12,220 we will always find out how to beat it 891 00:41:12,287 --> 00:41:14,287 I don't know how many from our music band, 892 00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:16,353 just like us a predator band 893 00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,587 Which one, Put this fish in water 894 00:41:19,687 --> 00:41:21,487 and give this fish a target, 895 00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:24,187 and say this fish must kill the fish, 896 00:41:24,253 --> 00:41:27,953 and this fish will come out there and kill the fish 897 00:41:28,053 --> 00:41:32,087 And I don't care How insensitive the sound is, 898 00:41:32,187 --> 00:41:35,187 I don't care how, uh... 899 00:41:35,253 --> 00:41:38,987 childish sound, That's how the band is. 900 00:41:39,053 --> 00:41:40,453 We are very predatory. 901 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,521 And at the bar, it kills or gets killed. 902 00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:47,921 Zebras are rumored to be this band of murderers from New Orleans, 903 00:41:48,021 --> 00:41:51,054 anyone, You know, dragon killer. 904 00:41:51,154 --> 00:41:54,621 I remember the first day I saw Twisted, you know, 905 00:41:54,921 --> 00:41:58,188 I've heard of them but I've never met them 906 00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:01,221 And I expect this crazy person to enter 907 00:42:01,321 --> 00:42:03,088 and you know they just came in their jeans 908 00:42:03,188 --> 00:42:04,154 and ordinary clothes. 909 00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:06,954 Maybe a little skin or something. 910 00:42:07,021 --> 00:42:08,688 But they only dress normal you know 911 00:42:08,954 --> 00:42:10,422 And I said, "Oh, this isn't a big deal." 912 00:42:10,522 --> 00:42:14,455 So I remember that night the band really improved their game, 913 00:42:14,522 --> 00:42:18,455 and everyone is dressed in and everyone wears makeup. 914 00:42:18,522 --> 00:42:22,155 That night we went down in our dressing room 915 00:42:22,222 --> 00:42:24,389 and I see Dee coming out from the locker room 916 00:42:24,455 --> 00:42:27,455 And I don't really know what I wear, 917 00:42:27,522 --> 00:42:31,322 But in my mind it looks like pink neglige 918 00:42:31,422 --> 00:42:32,589 Poor Zebra, 919 00:42:32,689 --> 00:42:35,322 they are just sort of a prog band from New Orleans 920 00:42:35,389 --> 00:42:38,422 wearing jeans and t-shirts and very talented bands, 921 00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:41,223 but we just came out loaded for bears. 922 00:42:41,323 --> 00:42:43,956 And we only destroy them. 923 00:43:06,123 --> 00:43:08,357 That's really crazy, 924 00:43:08,457 --> 00:43:11,524 I mean these Southern children get real doses 925 00:43:17,924 --> 00:43:21,924 People will come to the show to watch I and Dee do this tandem skirt, 926 00:43:21,991 --> 00:43:23,291 But what is this ripping doing? are two things - 927 00:43:23,391 --> 00:43:26,424 it's not just ripping someone or band, 928 00:43:26,491 --> 00:43:28,691 it is to create an atmosphere that we are kings 929 00:43:28,957 --> 00:43:31,557 This is our world, we have this world 930 00:43:31,657 --> 00:43:33,424 We are the number one band in this world. 931 00:43:33,491 --> 00:43:36,691 So we set out to destroy the Rat Race Choir and Good Mouse 932 00:43:36,958 --> 00:43:38,958 and Zebras and others You throw in our way. 933 00:43:39,058 --> 00:43:40,658 You know, tell us a band It's more popular than us, 934 00:43:40,925 --> 00:43:42,658 we will go out, we will swim out there, 935 00:43:42,958 --> 00:43:43,692 we will eat it 936 00:43:43,958 --> 00:43:46,092 Dee might wake up every morning with wishes 937 00:43:46,192 --> 00:43:48,325 to destroy me or make me eat bad luck 938 00:43:48,392 --> 00:43:50,492 or to prove how great he is fine 939 00:43:50,592 --> 00:43:52,025 I wake up every morning thinking 940 00:43:52,125 --> 00:43:54,392 how will I make more money by blowing away 941 00:43:54,492 --> 00:43:55,992 this band or the band - okay. 942 00:43:56,058 --> 00:43:59,325 We all have our own property small mini targets 943 00:44:02,692 --> 00:44:05,092 Sister must be band type 944 00:44:05,158 --> 00:44:07,659 where you have to be ready to throw with - 945 00:44:07,926 --> 00:44:09,326 when you're talking with certain people 946 00:44:09,426 --> 00:44:11,626 about bands and music, 947 00:44:11,926 --> 00:44:14,193 because it's true there is no middle ground with them. 948 00:44:14,259 --> 00:44:17,493 People really like them or really hate it. 949 00:44:17,593 --> 00:44:20,059 I bring some to see them with me 950 00:44:20,126 --> 00:44:21,926 and they basically go one or two times 951 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:23,226 and that is not for them. 952 00:44:23,326 --> 00:44:25,526 Some of my friends like the band 953 00:44:25,626 --> 00:44:28,393 Some of my friends aren't like bands. 954 00:44:28,493 --> 00:44:30,626 Some of my friends really hate bands 955 00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:35,294 One of these friends decided that he thought I was really 956 00:44:35,394 --> 00:44:36,660 sort of lost my mind, 957 00:44:36,927 --> 00:44:38,694 like really losing my mind for facts 958 00:44:38,994 --> 00:44:42,394 that I will go three or four consecutive nights and he-- 959 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:45,594 We are included in this big argument One day in front of my house. 960 00:44:45,694 --> 00:44:48,927 And we really have in fistfight. 961 00:44:49,027 --> 00:44:51,260 As I beat him. 962 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560 What do you think are you gay or something? 963 00:44:53,627 --> 00:44:58,060 You follow a group of people wearing makeup and women's clothing? 964 00:44:58,127 --> 00:45:01,527 I say basically fuc - go see them and judge for yourself 965 00:45:01,627 --> 00:45:03,995 I am very excited about what I do 966 00:45:04,061 --> 00:45:06,028 No one shares that passion... 967 00:45:06,095 --> 00:45:08,195 with me and be it. 968 00:45:08,295 --> 00:45:10,228 I don't ask anyone to do it. 969 00:45:10,295 --> 00:45:13,161 What I'm trying to say to them is that you don't know what's missing. 970 00:45:14,561 --> 00:45:19,561 From February '76 to August '78 there was no rest 971 00:45:19,628 --> 00:45:20,928 Five or six days a week, 972 00:45:21,028 --> 00:45:24,495 every week, playing perfectly, every show 973 00:45:25,495 --> 00:45:27,628 We started playing called Speaks, 974 00:45:27,928 --> 00:45:31,261 held, I think, more than 2,000 people. 975 00:45:31,328 --> 00:45:33,629 And they will be like shoulder to shoulder, 976 00:45:33,696 --> 00:45:36,162 I mean really jam packed, 977 00:45:36,262 --> 00:45:39,429 and people outside are waiting to enter to see the band. 978 00:45:39,529 --> 00:45:42,296 That's very interesting. 979 00:45:42,396 --> 00:45:44,329 During this time, 980 00:45:44,429 --> 00:45:47,629 I have got a drink, like, worse and worse 981 00:45:47,929 --> 00:45:50,062 I'll wake up 2:00 p.m. 982 00:45:50,129 --> 00:45:53,629 But at 4:00 in the afternoon I've started drinking. 983 00:45:53,929 --> 00:45:56,496 Often times is like depending on, 984 00:45:56,562 --> 00:45:58,229 what they call white-knuckling. 985 00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:12,163 When I have passed SMA 986 00:46:12,263 --> 00:46:14,130 I was playing nightclub in the band. 987 00:46:14,197 --> 00:46:16,230 Do all the copy music at that time. 988 00:46:16,297 --> 00:46:19,263 One day a drummer with the name from Fred Enoch told me, 989 00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:21,597 He said, "I brought an audition with a band 990 00:46:21,697 --> 00:46:23,463 " It travels around the world and makes albums and everything. " 991 00:46:23,563 --> 00:46:24,930 " Okay, what's wrong? " And he goes, " This is called The Dictators. " 992 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:26,330 Who? 993 00:46:26,397 --> 00:46:27,930 " Dictator Dictator. " 994 00:46:27,997 --> 00:46:29,297 Never heard of it. 995 00:46:29,363 --> 00:46:30,964 He brought me an album, and I saw the cover 996 00:46:31,064 --> 00:46:34,298 and I was horrified. 997 00:46:34,364 --> 00:46:35,398 998 00:46:35,498 --> 00:46:38,131 I don't believe that someone will have a man 999 00:46:38,231 --> 00:46:40,064 as a singer who can't sing. 1000 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:41,998 That's more like special effects. 1001 00:46:42,064 --> 00:46:44,364 But I don't know anything from punk rock at that time. 1002 00:46:44,431 --> 00:46:46,698 I don't know all of that is in town, 1003 00:46:46,964 --> 00:46:48,631 I have never gone to New York 1004 00:46:48,698 --> 00:46:50,464 something must be done with the music scene there. 1005 00:46:50,564 --> 00:46:52,698 Short story, 1006 00:46:52,964 --> 00:46:57,198 I spent about 2 1/2 years in the dictator and it was enough. 1007 00:46:57,264 --> 00:46:58,331 I left the band. 1008 00:46:58,398 --> 00:47:01,065 And I have become a good friend with the people on Twisted Sister. 1009 00:47:01,132 --> 00:47:05,232 So they say so tour this great summer club. 1010 00:47:05,332 --> 00:47:09,599 They will be very busy and they need help with the crew. 1011 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,699 I said, "Okay, I leave a band and I run out of work. 1012 00:47:11,699 --> 00:47:12,932 I'll do it, why not?" Summer '78 is our big - 1013 00:47:12,999 --> 00:47:16,099 first very large summer statement, 1014 00:47:16,165 --> 00:47:18,532 that we are a band to be reckoned with. 1015 00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:20,499 We are a home band in Speaks. 1016 00:47:20,565 --> 00:47:22,132 We are a home band in the Hamptons. 1017 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,032 That is very important. 1018 00:47:24,132 --> 00:47:25,932 We issue a large calendar in the newspaper-- 1019 00:47:26,032 --> 00:47:28,199 Summer Of '78 Tour, we call it. 1020 00:47:28,265 --> 00:47:30,933 We can to order it first. 1021 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,933 1022 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,466 And the target is, 1023 00:47:34,566 --> 00:47:36,366 that we will play Calderone, 1024 00:47:36,433 --> 00:47:39,533 theater in Hempstead, Halloween. 1025 00:47:39,633 --> 00:47:42,200 I operate a theater on Long Island calling 1026 00:47:42,266 --> 00:47:43,600 Calderone Concert Room. 1027 00:47:43,666 --> 00:47:45,566 That's one where we work. 1028 00:47:45,666 --> 00:47:47,666 I met the band. 1029 00:47:47,933 --> 00:47:50,133 We have to discuss staging, lighting, sound 1030 00:47:50,233 --> 00:47:52,666 They don't play on the theater stage before. 1031 00:47:52,933 --> 00:47:55,633 Um, I work together with Jay Jay at that time 1032 00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:57,701 in making all preparations. 1033 00:47:57,967 --> 00:48:00,367 Jay Jay wants to use it as a showcase 1034 00:48:00,434 --> 00:48:03,367 to try and bring some record companies out. 1035 00:48:06,201 --> 00:48:08,601 The idea of Calderone is a statement 1036 00:48:08,701 --> 00:48:11,134 That will be original music, and we will 1037 00:48:11,234 --> 00:48:12,467 Show that we can sell it a theater 1038 00:48:12,534 --> 00:48:15,334 We don't have transaction records. This is important We have a large number of amps to make a statement 1039 00:48:16,634 --> 00:48:20,134 the Twisted Sister must be taken into account, 1040 00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:22,567 with Black Sabbath and anyone 1041 00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:24,467 Because we carry artillery 1042 00:48:24,534 --> 00:48:26,367 We want to adjust every square inch - 1043 00:48:26,434 --> 00:48:27,935 and by the way - most of the are installed 1044 00:48:28,035 --> 00:48:30,268 ♪ All right, I feel like jumping '♪ 1045 00:48:30,335 --> 00:48:31,702 ♪ And walk right the door ♪ 1046 00:48:32,002 --> 00:48:34,602 1047 00:48:36,202 --> 00:48:37,668 ♪ You can't stop shakin '♪ 1048 00:48:37,935 --> 00:48:40,468 ♪ Goin 'to save legs stompin' floor ♪ 1049 00:48:40,535 --> 00:48:43,002 The show itself was sold out. 1050 00:48:43,102 --> 00:48:49,635 We performed that night and that was an eye-opening experience. 1051 00:48:49,935 --> 00:48:53,535 You know, I remember coming from the stage 1052 00:48:53,635 --> 00:48:56,369 full of wind and fatigue, really run. 1053 00:48:56,436 --> 00:48:57,703 Pain like you get from running 1054 00:48:58,003 --> 00:48:59,003 And I can't understand it. 1055 00:48:59,103 --> 00:49:00,403 I have never that experience before 1056 00:49:00,469 --> 00:49:03,469 It turns out we were on stage for more than 2 1/2 hours, 1057 00:49:03,569 --> 00:49:05,069 which is crazy 1058 00:49:05,169 --> 00:49:06,303 But we don't have a concept. 1059 00:49:06,403 --> 00:49:07,936 We just put every song we know 1060 00:49:08,036 --> 00:49:09,703 on a piece of paper and only play it. 1061 00:49:09,969 --> 00:49:12,669 By the time I was finished Aerosmith at Madison Square Garden 1062 00:49:12,936 --> 00:49:18,236 Black Sabbath, Kiss-- many good performance bands. 1063 00:49:18,336 --> 00:49:23,503 And what I saw happened to that stage with the audience, 1064 00:49:23,603 --> 00:49:28,237 is something I can It may have been seen five times. 1065 00:49:30,670 --> 00:49:32,670 So the Calderone event takes off 1066 00:49:32,937 --> 00:49:36,570 and the phone rings The next day. 1067 00:49:36,670 --> 00:49:38,304 And that's Kenny. 1068 00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:39,704 And he said are you sitting? 1069 00:49:40,004 --> 00:49:41,437 And I said... 1070 00:49:41,504 --> 00:49:43,070 "Why?" I thought he would go to tell me 1071 00:49:43,137 --> 00:49:44,470 he married his girlfriend, Carol. 1072 00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:45,470 And he said, 1073 00:49:45,570 --> 00:49:48,970 "Well, I have to tell you that I have to leave the band." 1074 00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:51,104 And I said, "What are you talking about?" 1075 00:49:54,638 --> 00:49:57,571 So I finally decided to try one of them 1076 00:49:57,671 --> 00:49:59,438 popular recovery program 1077 00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:04,271 And I started to get my brain back and started, uh... 1078 00:50:04,338 --> 00:50:06,938 being... aware. 1079 00:50:09,038 --> 00:50:10,571 This is also like a spiritual program 1080 00:50:10,671 --> 00:50:12,405 So I started thinking 1081 00:50:12,471 --> 00:50:15,138 Maybe there is something more out there 1082 00:50:15,205 --> 00:50:16,605 So I have a few of my friends 1083 00:50:16,705 --> 00:50:20,138 who are in the program, like in my same age group and all that, 1084 00:50:20,205 --> 00:50:22,171 who has become a believer. 1085 00:50:24,472 --> 00:50:27,472 Kenny, as much as you know, 1086 00:50:27,539 --> 00:50:31,539 reformed alcohol, they are reborn. 1087 00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:33,372 And after a few months 1088 00:50:33,439 --> 00:50:35,472 I feel like I'm leading a double life 1089 00:50:35,539 --> 00:50:37,572 Because I have this item here, 1090 00:50:37,672 --> 00:50:41,506 with my new Christian friends, plus I like the band. 1091 00:50:41,572 --> 00:50:44,039 And I started to really think 1092 00:50:44,139 --> 00:50:46,439 Maybe it's indeed time to continue 1093 00:50:49,106 --> 00:50:50,939 And I remember one night at Zaffy's 1094 00:50:51,006 --> 00:50:55,973 Kenny flopped Dais, his church, 1095 00:50:56,073 --> 00:50:58,173 about half a dozen people enter, 1096 00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,973 see the band, 1097 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,307 and he wants their verdict to be in Twisted Sister 1098 00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:06,673 contrary to him being a Christian 1099 00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:09,107 And they say that, 1100 00:51:09,173 --> 00:51:14,507 Satan speaks through some of my songs and Jay Jay's mouth. 1101 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:20,040 And yes, is a direct conflict 1102 00:51:20,107 --> 00:51:21,274 and that he must go. 1103 00:51:23,608 --> 00:51:26,174 And, remember, you are still very on track - 1104 00:51:26,241 --> 00:51:28,274 we go to the top of the mountain 1105 00:51:28,341 --> 00:51:29,674 Wait a minute! 1106 00:51:29,974 --> 00:51:31,974 You leave the band and you tell me 1107 00:51:32,041 --> 00:51:33,108 you leave us because they say 1108 00:51:33,174 --> 00:51:35,241 Devils talk through me and Dee? Let me understand this. 1109 00:51:35,341 --> 00:51:37,441 Dee and I don't drink. Dee and I don't smoke. 1110 00:51:37,508 --> 00:51:39,608 Dee and I don't do it any medicine 1111 00:51:39,674 --> 00:51:40,974 You are an alcoholic, 1112 00:51:41,041 --> 00:51:42,541 but the Devil speaks through me and Dee. 1113 00:51:42,608 --> 00:51:43,574 Is that what you say? 1114 00:51:43,674 --> 00:51:45,541 I want to really get this straight 1115 00:51:45,608 --> 00:51:47,441 "Well I know it's a bit sounds weird..." 1116 00:51:47,541 --> 00:51:50,242 Yes! That sounds strange, Kenny! 1117 00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:52,342 I don't trip. 1118 00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:53,609 I have no idea what are you talking about 1119 00:51:53,609 --> 00:51:54,342 I am a player. 1120 00:51:54,342 --> 00:51:55,642 I went there and I did schtick. 1121 00:51:55,642 --> 00:51:57,642 I do a show - anything. 1122 00:51:57,942 --> 00:51:59,709 So I tried to talk to him out of it 1123 00:51:59,975 --> 00:52:02,209 And I kind of made a breakthrough in looking after him 1124 00:52:04,242 --> 00:52:08,209 So one day in Speaks, my drummer, Tony, entered, 1125 00:52:08,275 --> 00:52:11,375 and he bandaged it arms, and I went, "What is that?" 1126 00:52:11,442 --> 00:52:14,075 And he left, "This is my new tattoo." 1127 00:52:14,142 --> 00:52:15,442 And I go, "What's wrong?" 1128 00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,942 and he pulls sideways and it's like devils or the like 1129 00:52:18,009 --> 00:52:20,310 And I'm like, "Oh good, what about this cliche?" 1130 00:52:20,410 --> 00:52:23,310 And then he left, "You know Mike Bruno, he did it. 1131 00:52:23,410 --> 00:52:25,310 Mike, why didn't you show it? Your tattoo band?" 1132 00:52:25,376 --> 00:52:28,210 And Bruno takes off his clothes and his entire back is Demon. 1133 00:52:28,276 --> 00:52:31,143 And I saw Kenny leave, "You won. 1134 00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:35,276 I think there are Devils worship." 1135 00:52:35,343 --> 00:52:36,476 Good. You know? 1136 00:52:36,543 --> 00:52:38,276 That's a bit like what would you say? 1137 00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:48,377 Right before Thanksgiving, 1138 00:52:48,444 --> 00:52:51,177 we have done it a Saturday night program somewhere 1139 00:52:51,277 --> 00:52:54,211 and we all go home. And the phone rings in my house, 1140 00:52:54,311 --> 00:52:55,377 and I'm just about falling asleep. 1141 00:52:55,444 --> 00:52:57,977 It is currently around 8:00 or 9:00 am, on Sunday morning. 1142 00:52:58,044 --> 00:53:01,177 And I wake up and it's Jay Jay French. 1143 00:53:01,244 --> 00:53:03,111 And he said to me, "Are you? Still looking for a band?" 1144 00:53:03,111 --> 00:53:04,211 And I said, "Yes, of course." 1145 00:53:04,311 --> 00:53:06,344 I say, "You know it's fun work with you 1146 00:53:06,444 --> 00:53:07,611 But I prefer to be a musician." 1147 00:53:07,677 --> 00:53:09,577 And he left, "I have a band for you." 1148 00:53:09,644 --> 00:53:12,277 I say, "Okay, who is that?" And he left, "Twisted Sister." 1149 00:53:12,377 --> 00:53:14,111 And I said, "You know, Don't play with me like that." 1150 00:53:14,211 --> 00:53:15,311 And he goes, "No, no, I'm serious. 1151 00:53:15,311 --> 00:53:18,945 Kenny stops, and we need bass player Do you want it?" 1152 00:53:18,945 --> 00:53:20,678 And I said, "Yes, I will do it Take it," just like that. 1153 00:53:20,678 --> 00:53:23,545 He said, "Okay, talk to you later." Click and he hung up. 1154 00:53:23,612 --> 00:53:28,178 Mark is very similar to me. 1155 00:53:28,278 --> 00:53:31,278 We are closer. He is a year younger than me. 1156 00:53:31,345 --> 00:53:33,245 We are both from the suburbs Long Island. 1157 00:53:33,312 --> 00:53:36,412 We only live a few cities away from each other. 1158 00:53:36,478 --> 00:53:42,345 We grow up with suburban men, bicycle men. 1159 00:53:42,412 --> 00:53:45,512 We are musically connected for the same thing 1160 00:53:45,613 --> 00:53:47,413 Finally there is someone in the band 1161 00:53:47,513 --> 00:53:49,713 who is my partner in crime 1162 00:53:49,979 --> 00:53:53,013 I have to tell you, when Mark enters, 1163 00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,479 who just finished Dee metamorphosis. 1164 00:53:55,546 --> 00:53:59,146 What Kenny can't do, that's what Mark finally did. 1165 00:53:59,213 --> 00:54:02,146 Dee's music feels heavy But Kenny is finessing it. 1166 00:54:02,213 --> 00:54:05,179 Mark is like that knock it to 747 1167 00:54:05,279 --> 00:54:06,446 and ramming it through terminal 1168 00:54:21,447 --> 00:54:24,514 ♪ Often you move me ♪ 1169 00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:27,614 ♪ When I know you care deeply ♪ 1170 00:54:31,247 --> 00:54:33,647 ♪ I know that you will be there ♪ 1171 00:54:33,714 --> 00:54:37,114 ♪ But I can't let you out that door ♪ 1172 00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:41,180 ♪ I can't let you say goodbye ♪ 1173 00:54:41,247 --> 00:54:44,181 ♪ And I can't let you out that door ♪ 1174 00:54:44,248 --> 00:54:48,015 ♪ I can't let you, You know I'm crying, I'm crying... ♪ 1175 00:54:48,081 --> 00:54:50,315 I have now managed bands, uh, 1176 00:54:50,381 --> 00:54:54,448 itself since we were reformed in '75. 1177 00:54:54,515 --> 00:54:57,448 And I found it grind everyday 1178 00:54:57,515 --> 00:54:59,648 playing and managing becomes impossible 1179 00:54:59,715 --> 00:55:03,015 He doesn't sleep at all he - it's very tiring, 1180 00:55:03,115 --> 00:55:05,115 he almost has physical disturbances 1181 00:55:05,181 --> 00:55:08,315 So I said, "Do you want me? to help you find a manager?" 1182 00:55:08,415 --> 00:55:09,715 And he said, "That would be great." 1183 00:55:09,981 --> 00:55:11,715 I started dealing with people 1184 00:55:11,981 --> 00:55:13,216 and tell them about this band, 1185 00:55:13,316 --> 00:55:17,149 people I think have management skills. 1186 00:55:17,216 --> 00:55:20,482 And one by one they just say, "No." 1187 00:55:20,582 --> 00:55:23,649 And Jay told me one day, "Well, why don't you do it?" 1188 00:55:23,949 --> 00:55:26,149 I said, "Okay, I'm not A Manager. I'm a promoter." 1189 00:55:26,249 --> 00:55:30,082 And he said, "Okay, it's over more for us than the other people have. 1190 00:55:30,149 --> 00:55:33,249 We will take a shot if you want." 1191 00:55:33,316 --> 00:55:36,582 So I give some thoughts and, uh, go to business management 1192 00:55:39,582 --> 00:55:41,349 We never played in Manhattan... 1193 00:55:41,449 --> 00:55:42,683 for various reasons. 1194 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:48,417 Clubs in Manhattan are small and they don't pay. 1195 00:55:48,483 --> 00:55:51,217 They think so Help this band 1196 00:55:51,283 --> 00:55:52,483 to allow you to play there. 1197 00:55:52,583 --> 00:55:54,583 And we think... 1198 00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:56,117 we are too good for them 1199 00:55:59,383 --> 00:56:01,150 If you look at a map, I mean, what are we like? 1200 00:56:01,250 --> 00:56:03,017 We are 20 miles from CBGBs? 1201 00:56:03,117 --> 00:56:05,083 We might as well 1,000 miles away, right? 1202 00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:06,583 There is no cross 1203 00:56:06,683 --> 00:56:09,017 Sometimes our fans will go into the city 1204 00:56:09,117 --> 00:56:12,218 and return with the words from the front. 1205 00:56:12,284 --> 00:56:14,318 Like, "Oh yes, We are at the Mudd Club 1206 00:56:14,384 --> 00:56:16,351 " or we see this band tonight 1207 00:56:16,451 --> 00:56:18,384 and we see Ramones or whatever. " 1208 00:56:18,451 --> 00:56:21,284 I will go," Yes, how many people Do they pack in that place? " 1209 00:56:21,351 --> 00:56:24,118 In knowing them in the field of management, 1210 00:56:24,218 --> 00:56:27,584 I will go out to see the show and I will realize 1211 00:56:27,651 --> 00:56:29,951 Long Island the fight is sold out, 1212 00:56:30,018 --> 00:56:33,118 2,000 people, 500 people queue who is can't enter 1213 00:56:33,218 --> 00:56:35,518 Same thing in New Jersey, same in Westchester 1214 00:56:35,618 --> 00:56:38,718 They have suburbs really dominated. 1215 00:56:39,018 --> 00:56:40,619 And I feel nothing really 1216 00:56:40,685 --> 00:56:42,219 give them time. 1217 00:56:42,285 --> 00:56:46,485 So my strategy appears with is to attract them 1218 00:56:46,585 --> 00:56:49,185 out of place during a period of from several months 1219 00:56:49,285 --> 00:56:52,085 and then only do one show in Manhattan. 1220 00:56:52,185 --> 00:56:56,219 The main place in New York City is The Palladium. 1221 00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:59,185 And I think it's more than 3,000 or 3,200 - 1222 00:56:59,252 --> 00:57:00,619 it's bigger than Calderone. 1223 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,352 And that is true in the heart of the recording industry So I called Ron Delsner a friend, but a competitor, 1224 00:57:04,419 --> 00:57:07,952 and I say, "I have a band 1225 00:57:08,019 --> 00:57:09,553 that I manage what I want to play Palladium." 1226 00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:12,686 1227 00:57:12,953 --> 00:57:14,186 And he said, "Who are they?" 1228 00:57:14,286 --> 00:57:15,553 And I said, "Twisted Sister." 1229 00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:17,586 And he said, "What date do you want?" 1230 00:57:17,686 --> 00:57:21,453 The show will go on sale on Tuesday 1231 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,320 And he called me on Tuesday afternoon 1232 00:57:23,386 --> 00:57:27,720 and he said, "Do you advertise the show?" 1233 00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:29,553 I said, "There's no Ronnie, it's your show 1234 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:32,620 I won't advertise your show Why?" 1235 00:57:32,686 --> 00:57:34,520 He said, "There are 1,110 seats sold. 1236 00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:38,454 This goes on sale at noon today, We don't even break the ad." 1237 00:57:38,521 --> 00:57:41,121 And the next day the ad broke in "Village Sounds" 1238 00:57:41,187 --> 00:57:44,621 and the know-it-all industry, who is in the cool scene, 1239 00:57:44,687 --> 00:57:46,287 chuckles, 1240 00:57:46,354 --> 00:57:48,554 "Watch, next week will say" canceled " 1241 00:57:48,621 --> 00:57:51,487 And on Thursday it's sold out 1242 00:57:51,554 --> 00:57:54,254 And next week he says, " sold out. " 1243 00:57:57,254 --> 00:58:00,154 To order Palladium, sell palladium, 1244 00:58:00,221 --> 00:58:04,487 in the heart of New York basically just... 1245 00:58:05,287 --> 00:58:08,388 The fact that Twisted Sister sold out Palladium 1246 00:58:08,488 --> 00:58:11,655 without a record deal - 1247 00:58:11,722 --> 00:58:14,388 You know, it's really cemented In everyone's mind, 1248 00:58:14,455 --> 00:58:15,522 These people are rock stars! 1249 00:58:15,622 --> 00:58:18,422 Playing Palladium It should be the last step 1250 00:58:18,488 --> 00:58:21,655 on the road to superstardom 1251 00:58:21,722 --> 00:58:24,488 The next step is a big record deal, 1252 00:58:24,555 --> 00:58:27,022 world tour, world domination. 1253 00:58:27,088 --> 00:58:28,722 It must be perfect. 1254 00:58:29,022 --> 00:58:30,588 That's right. 1255 00:58:30,688 --> 00:58:34,088 Staging, lighting, new costumes, 1256 00:58:34,188 --> 00:58:37,289 practice at the facility that we can do full lights, 1257 00:58:37,356 --> 00:58:39,489 full voice, full staging. 1258 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:42,089 So we have to rent SIR's biggest room. 1259 00:58:42,189 --> 00:58:44,289 We even rent Palladium 1260 00:58:44,389 --> 00:58:47,723 for rehearsals the day before the show 1261 00:58:47,989 --> 00:58:49,956 This will be that. Every record label comes, 1262 00:58:50,023 --> 00:58:54,256 and we have blurbs in newspapers - big deal. 1263 00:58:54,323 --> 00:58:57,556 And then during exercise - dress rehearsal 1264 00:58:57,623 --> 00:59:00,623 on palladium-- disaster hit 1265 00:59:00,723 --> 00:59:02,423 I went down trying to get ready 1266 00:59:02,489 --> 00:59:04,457 and I just, I don't even remember, 1267 00:59:04,557 --> 00:59:08,124 I just fainted. I think my head hit something. 1268 00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:10,357 They look for me and I am downstairs, 1269 00:59:10,424 --> 00:59:13,090 You know, I experienced a grand mal seizure. 1270 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:19,357 The next thing I know I'm in an ambulance. 1271 00:59:19,424 --> 00:59:21,657 The human I feel - 1272 00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:24,390 like I was shot from a canon then thrown 1273 00:59:24,457 --> 00:59:27,124 in a gorilla cage and has an ape weighing 800 pounds Defeat my crap. 1274 00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:28,590 The show is postponed. 1275 00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:30,057 Because they can't do it without me. 1276 00:59:30,157 --> 00:59:32,290 1277 00:59:33,591 --> 00:59:36,191 Man, you make a plan and you take a hit 1278 00:59:36,258 --> 00:59:37,191 and that's very devastating. 1279 00:59:37,258 --> 00:59:39,125 I mean, it's really destroying I go for a walk - how will I come back from this? 1280 00:59:39,191 --> 00:59:42,058 How will we return from this? 1281 00:59:42,125 --> 00:59:43,358 This is our shot, this is our chance 1282 00:59:43,458 --> 00:59:45,358 Listen, you do what you do 1283 00:59:45,425 --> 00:59:47,958 You lift yourself up, dust yourself, 1284 00:59:48,058 --> 00:59:49,958 the spandex rope returns to light and returns to it. 1285 00:59:50,025 --> 00:59:51,691 ♪ They say, hey how are you doing do with your life ♪ 1286 00:59:57,625 --> 01:00:03,626 ♪ Why don't you settle... ♪ 1287 01:00:03,692 --> 01:00:06,126 1288 01:00:06,192 --> 01:00:08,226 Nobody wants it to end. 1289 01:00:08,326 --> 01:00:10,192 We are all proud. 1290 01:00:10,292 --> 01:00:13,192 This band, you know, is grateful. 1291 01:00:13,292 --> 01:00:16,226 They are given electricity. They are tired. 1292 01:00:16,292 --> 01:00:19,259 And we know, shows for life 1293 01:00:19,626 --> 01:00:20,659 ♪ I say ♪ 1294 01:00:20,959 --> 01:00:26,726 ♪ I will never grow up, I will never grow up. ♪ 1295 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,460 We are rescheduled, record label, 1296 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,093 basically all who are supposed to come, don't come. 1297 01:00:41,193 --> 01:00:45,593 Instead of now the head A & R department is there, 1298 01:00:45,693 --> 01:00:47,627 the audience is filled with their secretary 1299 01:00:47,727 --> 01:00:49,393 and their assistant 1300 01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:51,093 Within a month people see us 1301 01:00:51,193 --> 01:00:53,293 with a large Marshall stack 1302 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,460 and costumes and staging, 1303 01:00:55,527 --> 01:00:57,660 and say we are past. 1304 01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:00,594 We miss our opening. 1305 01:01:01,661 --> 01:01:05,561 One person who is interested again 1306 01:01:05,661 --> 01:01:08,461 is Epic Records-- Lennie Pizzi, 1307 01:01:08,561 --> 01:01:10,094 head of Epic Records. 1308 01:01:10,161 --> 01:01:12,494 Now Lennie, again, 1309 01:01:12,561 --> 01:01:14,328 he has sent his secretary or his assistant, 1310 01:01:14,428 --> 01:01:16,161 so he needs to see it for himself. 1311 01:01:16,228 --> 01:01:20,461 Now we can offer limousine rides to rooms that are packed every night. 1312 01:01:20,561 --> 01:01:22,561 But no, this must happen in New York City 1313 01:01:22,628 --> 01:01:24,194 at lunchtime on Monday 1314 01:01:24,261 --> 01:01:25,694 Here it is, head from Epic Records 1315 01:01:25,961 --> 01:01:28,094 want to see the same show 1316 01:01:28,161 --> 01:01:29,495 which we have just used on palladium. 1317 01:01:29,595 --> 01:01:31,329 We agree. 1318 01:01:31,395 --> 01:01:34,362 That makes me sick because you know on Monday we go 1319 01:01:34,429 --> 01:01:36,162 Monday means we have to come on Sunday night, 1320 01:01:36,262 --> 01:01:37,195 preparing for the show 1321 01:01:37,262 --> 01:01:40,995 He will come at noon or 1:00 at lunch time. 1322 01:01:41,062 --> 01:01:42,662 It's embarrassing. But we agree. 1323 01:01:42,729 --> 01:01:44,395 So what do we do? 1324 01:01:44,462 --> 01:01:47,195 We rent SIR-- we rent all the equipment, 1325 01:01:47,295 --> 01:01:51,062 sounds, lights, staging, everything-- 1326 01:01:51,162 --> 01:01:54,095 and perform shows for Lennie Pizzi at-- 1327 01:01:54,195 --> 01:01:56,162 is it 11:00 in the morning? 1328 01:01:56,229 --> 01:01:57,962 That's in... 1329 01:01:58,062 --> 01:02:00,496 It was dawn at that time Twisted sisters were concerned. 1330 01:02:00,596 --> 01:02:02,963 And he entered. 1331 01:02:03,030 --> 01:02:04,396 And understanding, 1332 01:02:04,463 --> 01:02:06,463 they go to pay us fees, 1333 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:07,996 he will pay for the show 1334 01:02:08,063 --> 01:02:10,230 I think around 12:00 or 1:00, Lenny entered, 1335 01:02:10,296 --> 01:02:13,163 The door opens on the back SIR, there is one chair. 1336 01:02:13,263 --> 01:02:14,396 He sits on a chair. 1337 01:02:14,463 --> 01:02:16,296 We play as a whole Palladium shows. 1338 01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:27,397 We finish the show, he is not there 1339 01:02:27,464 --> 01:02:30,064 He told our manager he had another meeting 1340 01:02:30,131 --> 01:02:31,664 We have never heard from him. 1341 01:02:31,964 --> 01:02:33,964 They never pay the money for performances 1342 01:02:34,064 --> 01:02:35,631 We run out of bags even more money 1343 01:02:35,731 --> 01:02:41,331 We can't enter and... we slip. 1344 01:02:44,297 --> 01:02:46,264 As a fan and not an insider 1345 01:02:46,331 --> 01:02:48,464 or someone who works for bands or with bands, 1346 01:02:48,564 --> 01:02:49,497 You don't know this 1347 01:02:49,564 --> 01:02:53,131 You don't know that a failure, so to speak. 1348 01:02:53,197 --> 01:02:55,531 Because, you know, 1349 01:02:55,597 --> 01:02:58,198 the next night they will be in Hammerheads 1350 01:02:58,265 --> 01:03:01,298 or, you know, Detroit, play again 1351 01:03:03,132 --> 01:03:04,498 Judas Priest! 1352 01:03:07,432 --> 01:03:09,432 Hell Bent For Skin! 1353 01:03:13,232 --> 01:03:14,298 Can you forget these things? 1354 01:03:14,398 --> 01:03:16,498 Somewhat. You are playing five nights a week 1355 01:03:16,565 --> 01:03:18,732 You lick your wounds, huh. 1356 01:03:19,032 --> 01:03:20,098 You can handle it, huh. 1357 01:03:22,198 --> 01:03:24,698 But it still kicks into the solar plexus. 1358 01:03:25,265 --> 01:03:28,066 ♪ Look for him here, find him on the highway ♪ 1359 01:03:28,133 --> 01:03:30,166 ♪ Never know when she will appear ♪ 1360 01:03:30,233 --> 01:03:32,599 ♪ All waiting, the machine beats more than ♪ 1361 01:03:32,699 --> 01:03:34,699 ♪ Hearing the roar because they feel fear ♪ 1362 01:03:34,966 --> 01:03:37,366 ♪ Wheels! ♪ 1363 01:03:37,433 --> 01:03:39,366 ♪ Glare of steel and flash of light! ♪ 1364 01:03:39,466 --> 01:03:41,699 ♪ Screams! ♪ 1365 01:03:41,966 --> 01:03:44,066 ♪ From the line of fire when he attacks! ♪ 1366 01:03:44,133 --> 01:03:46,266 ♪ Hell bent, hell bent to the skin ♪ 1367 01:03:48,666 --> 01:03:50,999 ♪ Hell bent, hell bent to the skin... ♪ 1368 01:03:53,033 --> 01:03:56,434 I see - I go somewhere. 1369 01:03:56,500 --> 01:04:01,734 And my big stumbling block Is this a shithole club? 1370 01:04:06,734 --> 01:04:08,167 I hate them. 1371 01:04:08,234 --> 01:04:10,734 They are necessary crimes. They are hot. 1372 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,634 They are narrow. The stage is small. 1373 01:04:13,734 --> 01:04:15,967 They don't allow me to do it what should I do 1374 01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:17,567 They don't treat me like stars. 1375 01:04:20,967 --> 01:04:22,667 Point to be - 1376 01:04:22,734 --> 01:04:26,568 I will really take a lot out at this club, 1377 01:04:26,635 --> 01:04:28,568 and I will verbally abuse it club. 1378 01:04:28,668 --> 01:04:31,301 And if something goes wrong and something disgusting 1379 01:04:31,368 --> 01:04:35,001 I will let everyone know how much I hate these clubs. 1380 01:04:36,335 --> 01:04:38,035 Dee will panic on sound proofing, 1381 01:04:38,101 --> 01:04:39,968 and he will expel from the club during the sound check. 1382 01:04:39,968 --> 01:04:41,201 And I have to go and talk 1383 01:04:41,201 --> 01:04:43,168 for bartenders and rather cold they come out. 1384 01:04:43,235 --> 01:04:44,635 He will start the argument with the club owner 1385 01:04:44,735 --> 01:04:46,101 Maybe I will do it to silence it 1386 01:04:46,168 --> 01:04:48,268 And he is a skinny little man with, uh, 1387 01:04:48,368 --> 01:04:51,368 40 pounds of hair so you will sell nonsense from the stage? 1388 01:04:51,435 --> 01:04:53,102 Wait until you get off stage, buddy 1389 01:04:54,002 --> 01:04:56,036 ♪ Hell bent, hell bent to the skin... ♪ 1390 01:04:56,136 --> 01:04:57,469 I keep running disorders 1391 01:04:57,536 --> 01:05:01,169 for Dee bull head, silly behavior 1392 01:05:01,236 --> 01:05:05,169 Keep you sick bastards! 1393 01:05:05,269 --> 01:05:06,969 But they are all really stupid 1394 01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:08,436 The crew does stupid things. 1395 01:05:08,502 --> 01:05:11,736 And as a manager who has to make phone calls, 1396 01:05:12,036 --> 01:05:13,736 must order the truck, open lighting equipment 1397 01:05:14,036 --> 01:05:15,502 I will say one thing about that, 1398 01:05:15,569 --> 01:05:17,402 because I do that every day, 1399 01:05:17,502 --> 01:05:18,969 because I can't sleep, 1400 01:05:18,969 --> 01:05:20,336 because I have to wake up in the morning 1401 01:05:20,336 --> 01:05:22,270 and talk to trucks company, lighting company, 1402 01:05:22,270 --> 01:05:25,003 dealing with battles with the crew, 1403 01:05:25,070 --> 01:05:26,237 dealing with battles with bands, 1404 01:05:26,303 --> 01:05:28,503 dealing with battles with agents, 1405 01:05:28,570 --> 01:05:30,137 dealing with agents and club owners, 1406 01:05:30,203 --> 01:05:32,670 I can never be a rock star 1407 01:05:32,670 --> 01:05:35,170 I have been robbed my rock star 1408 01:05:35,303 --> 01:05:38,070 And I said, "Now you understand you're a road manager 1409 01:05:38,170 --> 01:05:40,503 who will handle these people, I won't be there. 1410 01:05:40,603 --> 01:05:42,403 I don't want to call 3:00 a.m. 1411 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:45,970 when someone does not want to pay you, or whatever it is. " 1412 01:05:46,070 --> 01:05:47,103 So I brought Joe in 1413 01:05:47,203 --> 01:05:49,570 So now we have Mark Puma and we have Joe Gerber. 1414 01:05:49,637 --> 01:05:53,171 So we are like - there is a support system there. because 1415 01:05:53,238 --> 01:05:56,171 All he does is he who submits me Kevin Brenner's phone number-- 1416 01:05:56,238 --> 01:05:58,171 agent-- 1417 01:05:58,271 --> 01:05:59,271 a bag of receipts, 1418 01:06:01,404 --> 01:06:03,671 some looseleaf pages future date, 1419 01:06:03,738 --> 01:06:07,471 and says, "Good luck " 1420 01:06:07,571 --> 01:06:10,238 And so. 1421 01:06:10,304 --> 01:06:11,571 And I have to do it find out for yourself. 1422 01:06:11,671 --> 01:06:15,204 1423 01:06:15,304 --> 01:06:18,171 The half - both terror and pleasure. 1424 01:06:18,238 --> 01:06:20,005 But you know, Fear is a great motivator. 1425 01:06:22,472 --> 01:06:24,205 Here it is, baby! 1426 01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:30,072 So licking our wounds now we leave from April, May, June. 1427 01:06:30,139 --> 01:06:34,339 However, we heard it that there was a concert format 1428 01:06:34,405 --> 01:06:36,405 at Adventureland Amusement Park. 1429 01:06:36,505 --> 01:06:39,172 And they will have the biggest band on Long Island 1430 01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:42,205 play every Tuesday night for a month. 1431 01:06:42,305 --> 01:06:44,405 We rent airplanes and fly them over Jones Beach 1432 01:06:44,472 --> 01:06:46,039 July 4 weeks said, 1433 01:06:46,105 --> 01:06:48,205 "Twisted Sister Free Concert, Adventureland." 1434 01:06:48,306 --> 01:06:51,006 A week before Zebra did it about 6,000 people, I think, 1435 01:06:51,073 --> 01:06:53,240 think promoters 6 or 7,000 people appear. 1436 01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:54,506 I think we also do it. 1437 01:06:54,606 --> 01:06:57,573 I call one of my friends and say, "Come on, the program is free. We can't understand from where the traffic is. 1438 01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,073 Never expect thousands and thousands of people. 1439 01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:02,506 Three to five miles in both directions. 1440 01:07:02,606 --> 01:07:04,440 The car has just been left on the side of the road. 1441 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:08,540 We are so far behind, 1442 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,573 1443 01:07:10,673 --> 01:07:13,106 1444 01:07:13,173 --> 01:07:14,340 1445 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,707 People are above the building to watch the show 1446 01:07:17,974 --> 01:07:19,307 That is a zoo. 1447 01:07:21,741 --> 01:07:23,607 And I, "So how do I look out there?" 1448 01:07:23,707 --> 01:07:25,241 And white Joe. 1449 01:07:25,341 --> 01:07:27,007 He is like, "Look out the window." 1450 01:07:27,074 --> 01:07:31,074 And I see and that the ocean, the ocean of people! 1451 01:07:44,674 --> 01:07:48,742 There are no 7,000, not 10,000, not 12,000, not 15, 1452 01:07:49,042 --> 01:07:50,575 But 22,000 people appeared. 1453 01:07:50,675 --> 01:07:55,075 23,000 people according to According to police estimates, 1454 01:07:55,142 --> 01:07:56,108 waiting to welcome us 1455 01:07:56,208 --> 01:07:59,042 Boys and girls from all the people we have played - 1456 01:08:08,442 --> 01:08:10,675 There are two floors office building, 1457 01:08:10,975 --> 01:08:12,508 across the parking lot from the stage 1458 01:08:12,575 --> 01:08:14,675 Children are hung on it, are dangerous 1459 01:08:14,742 --> 01:08:17,409 Because nothing is wrong prevent them from falling. 1460 01:08:17,509 --> 01:08:18,409 We find it later 1461 01:08:18,509 --> 01:08:22,576 there is also a ridiculously expensive microwave antenna 1462 01:08:22,643 --> 01:08:25,309 that they have bent into their shape from "T" and "S." 1463 01:08:29,743 --> 01:08:32,576 We put this anti-disco attack to the point 1464 01:08:32,643 --> 01:08:34,309 where children are running to Republic Airport, 1465 01:08:34,376 --> 01:08:36,609 painting "Disco Sucks" on the side of the plane. 1466 01:08:36,676 --> 01:08:38,476 We cause almost riots 1467 01:08:38,543 --> 01:08:41,109 and because of damage done by our fans, 1468 01:08:41,176 --> 01:08:44,009 we are briefly banned from all outdoor events on Long Island 1469 01:08:44,109 --> 01:08:45,277 since that day. 1470 01:08:47,077 --> 01:08:48,577 Oops! 1471 01:08:50,310 --> 01:08:54,010 You really wake up in the morning 1472 01:08:54,077 --> 01:08:55,244 You eat 1473 01:08:55,310 --> 01:08:58,344 Often in summer time 1474 01:08:58,444 --> 01:09:00,077 we will go to the beach, 1475 01:09:00,177 --> 01:09:03,077 we will come back, we will eat, we will go play, 1476 01:09:03,144 --> 01:09:08,444 and um, we might stay awake whole night damn 1477 01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:12,244 and go home, fall asleep, wake up. 1478 01:09:12,310 --> 01:09:16,311 This is a constant five seven nights a week playing 1479 01:09:16,378 --> 01:09:18,611 and it's just a constant party 1480 01:09:18,678 --> 01:09:19,678 Because you know other people. 1481 01:09:19,745 --> 01:09:22,045 You don't know if you will go home or not, 1482 01:09:22,145 --> 01:09:24,211 You will only end in someone's home 1483 01:09:24,211 --> 01:09:25,178 and go to the next show. 1484 01:09:25,178 --> 01:09:28,445 That's very similar, um, 1485 01:09:28,511 --> 01:09:30,711 "Repeated days." 1486 01:09:30,978 --> 01:09:34,311 The clubs are different, but the days are the same, 1487 01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:37,678 Repetition is what happens day after day 1488 01:09:37,745 --> 01:09:40,678 and week after week and month after months and years after years. 1489 01:09:40,745 --> 01:09:42,579 Already arrived at the club 3:00 o'clock in the afternoon, 1490 01:09:42,646 --> 01:09:45,012 do your voice checking, 1491 01:09:45,112 --> 01:09:48,112 hang out until 10:00 a.m. at night, do your shows, 1492 01:09:48,179 --> 01:09:50,246 return home at 6:00 in the morning, 1493 01:09:50,346 --> 01:09:53,346 wake up at 1:00 a.m. in the afternoon, take a shower, 1494 01:09:53,412 --> 01:09:54,979 do everything again. 1495 01:09:55,046 --> 01:09:56,112 Sunday after week after week, 1496 01:09:56,179 --> 01:09:59,646 You play the same song, three sets, four sets of nights. 1497 01:09:59,712 --> 01:10:01,346 And until Tuesday, becomes Wednesday, 1498 01:10:01,446 --> 01:10:03,712 be Thursday, Friday, to Saturday 1499 01:10:03,979 --> 01:10:06,712 I just count down songs set - five, four... 1500 01:10:07,012 --> 01:10:09,079 Until you close Saturday night at 6:00 a.m. 1501 01:10:09,179 --> 01:10:11,012 Sunday morning you sleep all day long. 1502 01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:12,447 You have - your relationship 1503 01:10:12,513 --> 01:10:14,513 with your boyfriend messy because you don't have energy. 1504 01:10:14,613 --> 01:10:16,980 A day off, two days off and back again. 1505 01:10:17,047 --> 01:10:18,247 I did it for years! 1506 01:10:18,313 --> 01:10:20,713 You know I used to go home several nights and think, 1507 01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:23,213 "Humans, this never will end." 1508 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,747 Like this nightmare 1509 01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:27,480 I will crawl into the bathtub every morning! 1510 01:10:27,547 --> 01:10:30,013 I will crawl out of bed, I can't talk. 1511 01:10:30,113 --> 01:10:31,513 Then I crawled right into the tub. 1512 01:10:31,580 --> 01:10:33,047 And I just fell into the bathtub - 1513 01:10:33,147 --> 01:10:36,513 a 20 year old man - and soak in a hot tub 1514 01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:39,647 to make my body loose so I can do it again! 1515 01:10:39,713 --> 01:10:42,114 We arrived at the stage at that time 1516 01:10:42,214 --> 01:10:43,581 that we are contracted to ride the stage - 1517 01:10:43,648 --> 01:10:46,281 because this is a discipline we have as a professional band. 1518 01:10:46,348 --> 01:10:48,481 We play until we can't play anymore, 1519 01:10:48,581 --> 01:10:50,681 We collapsed on the stage until nothing was left 1520 01:10:50,981 --> 01:10:53,448 But! 1521 01:10:53,514 --> 01:10:56,514 It tastes really good. It's a joke, It feels so good when I stop. 1522 01:10:56,581 --> 01:11:02,114 I am alwa - I love achievement have blown the crowd. 1523 01:11:02,181 --> 01:11:08,481 This extraordinary desire to prove to the people who pay 1524 01:11:08,581 --> 01:11:12,082 that we are the greatest life the band you have ever seen 1525 01:11:12,182 --> 01:11:14,615 And we will go to drain us, 1526 01:11:14,715 --> 01:11:18,515 and in the process, you, of all energy to convince you 1527 01:11:18,615 --> 01:11:20,082 I think it's like any athlete, 1528 01:11:20,182 --> 01:11:23,482 or runner or anyone who's superior, you know 1529 01:11:23,549 --> 01:11:27,649 Like, you can't win unless you are willing to - 1530 01:11:27,749 --> 01:11:29,749 if it's easy everyone will do it 1531 01:11:32,449 --> 01:11:34,315 This is one of our singles 1532 01:01:34,415 --> 01:11:36,449 "I will never grow now!" 1533 01:11:41,016 --> 01:11:44,316 ♪ They say, you should stop dreamin you '♪ 1534 01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:47,983 ♪ You go to a fast place... ♪ 1535 01:11:48,083 --> 01:11:50,216 A girl appears as long as checks the voice and says to me, 1536 01:11:50,283 --> 01:11:51,283 "My mother told me 1537 01:11:51,283 --> 01:11:52,750 Eddie Kramer was away to come and see you." 1538 01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:53,983 And I go, "Eddie Kramer..." 1539 01:11:54,083 --> 01:11:55,650 Eddie Kramer... Like, there are only one Eddie Kramer I know, 1540 01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:58,516 You know he's a very famous person a male producer / engineer 1541 01:11:58,616 --> 01:12:00,983 for Hendrix and Zeppelin and Rolling Stones. 1542 01:12:01,083 --> 01:12:01,616 Eddie Kramer? 1543 01:12:01,683 --> 01:12:03,683 ♪ You look like that a slob... ♪ 1544 01:12:03,983 --> 01:12:05,316 What are the opportunities? 1545 01:12:05,416 --> 01:12:07,251 I say to everyone that Eddie Kramer should come 1546 01:12:07,317 --> 01:12:09,284 Yes, right, sure, Eddie Kramer came to Detroit. 1547 01:12:09,384 --> 01:12:10,451 Yes, right, of course. 1548 01:12:10,551 --> 01:12:12,284 Well, look, That night's rain, 1549 01:12:12,384 --> 01:12:14,384 there are 100 people in the room. 1550 01:12:14,451 --> 01:12:16,051 Eddie Kramer enters 1551 01:12:16,151 --> 01:12:19,051 Seeing the band, like it, saying, "Let's do a production deal." 1552 01:12:19,117 --> 01:12:21,151 So here's the next thing. 1553 01:12:21,217 --> 01:12:22,584 We will sign with Eddie Kramer, 1554 01:12:22,651 --> 01:12:24,751 we will do the song, we will enter the studio, 1555 01:12:25,051 --> 01:12:26,051 we will make a demo 1556 01:12:27,084 --> 01:12:32,417 ♪ Why don't you listen to it? the music we play? ♪ 1557 01:12:32,517 --> 01:12:37,385 ♪ Go choose someone else... ♪ 1558 01:12:37,452 --> 01:12:38,585 We don't have a large budget this thing, 1559 01:12:38,685 --> 01:12:40,585 we must immediately enter and record these things 1560 01:12:40,685 --> 01:12:43,018 like "I will never grow" and "Under The Blade," 1561 01:12:43,085 --> 01:12:44,252 and "Shoot 'Em Down." 1562 01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:46,252 We are together Eddie Kramer. It's like a big problem. 1563 01:12:46,318 --> 01:12:47,285 Man, Eddie Kramer... 1564 01:12:47,352 --> 01:12:48,718 Wow, how big is that right? 1565 01:12:48,985 --> 01:12:51,318 And he is a good friend, and stays up to this day, 1566 01:12:51,385 --> 01:12:52,718 But he can't get a deal. 1567 01:12:53,018 --> 01:12:54,985 He can't make us an agreement. 1568 01:12:55,085 --> 01:12:56,485 We are rather coming to this conclusion 1569 01:12:56,585 --> 01:12:57,752 that if he can't get us an agreement, 1570 01:12:58,018 --> 01:12:59,752 let's at least press up on our own note 1571 01:13:00,018 --> 01:13:01,718 and issue on Twisted Sister Records. 1572 01:13:01,985 --> 01:13:04,285 And at least use it for ads on radio 1573 01:13:04,385 --> 01:13:06,719 and sell some - something-- give them - 1574 01:13:06,986 --> 01:13:07,986 just say we make notes 1575 01:13:08,086 --> 01:13:11,986 We have to have us and the word "note" is somewhat spoken together. 1576 01:13:12,053 --> 01:13:13,219 The reason we issued a single, 1577 01:13:13,286 --> 01:13:16,386 is to maintain excitement about the band, 1578 01:13:16,453 --> 01:13:17,553 show record company 1579 01:13:20,219 --> 01:13:22,319 Because our singles are sold out all the time 1580 01:13:22,419 --> 01:13:25,253 We are amazed how much we will sell 1581 01:13:25,319 --> 01:13:28,619 And I guess that still doesn't make sense record company 1582 01:13:28,686 --> 01:13:30,353 I don't consider it at all chaotic. 1583 01:13:34,420 --> 01:13:35,620 Above all, 1584 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,520 I think we started to suffer a decline 1585 01:13:38,587 --> 01:13:42,720 following us in some clubs. 1586 01:13:42,987 --> 01:13:46,687 We have gone and pushed Next to another area, 1587 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,020 to build a new market, 1588 01:13:51,087 --> 01:13:54,120 and we let some of us the regular market soften. 1589 01:13:54,187 --> 01:13:56,020 We need something to take it to next summer 1590 01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:58,220 And Dee said, "Well, I have this new song 1591 01:13:58,220 --> 01:13:59,654 called 'Bad Boys of Rock' n 'Roll' and let's-- 1592 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,987 Maybe we can have it Summer Bad Boys in 1980. " 1593 01:14:04,155 --> 01:14:05,755 This is our new single, 1594 01:14:06,021 --> 01:14:08,088 will be in the shop on June 4 - 1595 01:14:08,155 --> 01:14:11,155 called "Bad Boys From Rock 'n' Roll!" 1596 01:14:11,255 --> 01:14:12,621 Dee throws down challenges and says, 1597 01:14:17,155 --> 01:14:20,621 And we can focus continuously next attack on the bar. 1598 01:14:20,688 --> 01:14:24,555 I feel it "Bad Boys" really 1599 01:14:24,621 --> 01:14:28,555 solidification from my creative control 1600 01:14:28,621 --> 01:14:31,321 I'm basically given full power, 1601 01:14:31,421 --> 01:14:34,622 and the band accepts all my ideas, 1602 01:14:40,256 --> 01:14:42,189 We climbed into the studio in White Plains called Minot 1603 01:14:42,256 --> 01:14:44,056 and record "Bad Boys" single, 1604 01:14:44,122 --> 01:14:46,422 and Memorial Day weekend we hit the target, 1605 01:14:46,522 --> 01:14:49,722 take an ad in the newspaper, Twisted Sister Bad Boys 1980. 1606 01:14:49,989 --> 01:14:51,522 Set a new stage, new clothes, 1607 01:14:51,589 --> 01:14:54,022 new songs, new promotions and bang! 1608 01:14:55,522 --> 01:14:57,756 ♪ Now we our boys bother you ♪ 1609 01:14:58,022 --> 01:15:00,456 ♪ Alright, we regret your way ♪ 1610 01:15:00,556 --> 01:15:03,457 ♪ You can't stand anything we do ♪ 1611 01:15:09,457 --> 01:15:12,023 ♪ And have fun with everything we do ♪ 1612 01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:14,723 ♪ We only have fun time, so let your guard ♪ 1613 01:15:28,257 --> 01:15:30,991 So I thought "Bad Boys" was a business to give everyone something fresh to see, 1614 01:15:31,058 --> 01:15:34,491 That's when we became a record company, 1615 01:15:37,558 --> 01:15:39,024 Everything is interrelated, 1616 01:15:41,524 --> 01:15:44,124 Because we cannot rely on on others, 1617 01:15:44,224 --> 01:15:45,991 Records in stores, radio places, 1618 01:15:51,124 --> 01:15:53,324 and play Staten Island on Friday 1619 01:15:58,491 --> 01:16:00,759 1620 01:16:01,025 --> 01:16:01,692 and doing business, 1621 01:16:01,759 --> 01:16:04,559 and Queens or Jersey on Saturdays 1622 01:16:04,625 --> 01:16:05,559 and doing business. 1623 01:16:05,659 --> 01:16:07,259 I think they play, If I'm not mistaken, 1624 01:16:07,325 --> 01:16:09,392 from Wednesday to Sunday 1625 01:16:09,459 --> 01:16:11,992 And every night that is the same thing, 1626 01:16:12,059 --> 01:16:13,259 they will do business. 1627 01:16:13,325 --> 01:16:14,759 Check this one we go to do for you - 1628 01:16:15,025 --> 01:16:16,692 "Rock 'n Roll Saviors!" 1629 01:16:34,326 --> 01:16:36,660 Hammerheads Closure in Levittown 1630 01:16:36,726 --> 01:16:37,693 actually is the beginning 1631 01:16:37,993 --> 01:16:40,760 period of stone destruction from Twisted Sister. 1632 01:16:42,293 --> 01:16:44,326 We performed at the club and we were told the club would 1633 01:16:44,326 --> 01:16:46,460 Get out of business that night - It's finished, it's done. 1634 01:16:46,526 --> 01:16:48,326 They will move to another location 1635 01:16:48,393 --> 01:16:50,460 and that club owners and landlords hate each other. 1636 01:16:50,993 --> 01:16:52,260 And club owners have told us 1637 01:16:52,260 --> 01:16:54,060 to tell our fans they can do whatever they want. 1638 01:16:54,060 --> 01:16:54,760 They hate the owner. 1639 01:16:54,993 --> 01:16:56,760 They don't care, destroy the room 1640 01:16:58,261 --> 01:17:00,694 Take what So our fans start taking. 1641 01:17:00,994 --> 01:17:02,394 What they take 1642 01:17:02,494 --> 01:17:05,161 They take urinals. They take the toilet. 1643 01:17:05,261 --> 01:17:08,261 They take the toilet stall. They turn on the fire alarm. 1644 01:17:08,327 --> 01:17:10,327 They take everything from-- 1645 01:17:10,427 --> 01:17:13,594 They tear clubs physically apart. 1646 01:17:13,661 --> 01:17:17,494 I remember the bathroom---- the flattened wall, 1647 01:17:17,594 --> 01:17:20,461 just come out and see water and bowl, 1648 01:17:20,561 --> 01:17:22,361 and the sink has run out. 1649 01:17:22,461 --> 01:17:24,627 I hear someone's ears flogged - 1650 01:17:24,694 --> 01:17:27,395 it's only pandemonium! 1651 01:17:27,695 --> 01:17:32,528 ♪ We are rock 'n' roll savior ♪ 1652 01:17:33,528 --> 01:17:38,228 ♪ Rock 'n' roll we will defend ♪ 1653 01:17:38,295 --> 01:17:41,495 And the last thing left, At 4:00 a.m., 1654 01:17:41,562 --> 01:17:42,762 is an air conditioning system. 1655 01:17:43,028 --> 01:17:45,662 And at 3:55 a.m., someone reaches 1656 01:17:45,728 --> 01:17:49,328 and interesting the entire false ceiling drops. 1657 01:17:49,395 --> 01:17:51,462 All AC cracks system 1658 01:17:51,562 --> 01:17:53,028 The water pipe is cracked. 1659 01:17:53,095 --> 01:17:54,328 The room is full of water. 1660 01:17:54,428 --> 01:17:56,263 We shout, "Get out!" 1661 01:17:59,396 --> 01:18:01,196 What I know is that they stop playing, 1662 01:18:01,263 --> 01:18:02,629 and I turn 1663 01:18:02,696 --> 01:18:05,529 and the club ceiling basically is on the floor. 1664 01:18:07,529 --> 01:18:08,996 How much do I destroy? 1665 01:18:09,063 --> 01:18:11,163 I am on stage playing, I can't destroy anything 1666 01:18:11,263 --> 01:18:12,296 I want to. 1667 01:18:12,363 --> 01:18:15,163 ♪ But the disco is dead, it's dead ♪ 1668 01:18:15,263 --> 01:18:16,563 ♪ Well, baby, it's dead ♪ 1669 01:18:16,663 --> 01:18:18,429 ♪ Dead, dead, dead... ♪ 1670 01:18:18,496 --> 01:18:23,129 During the Bad Boys tour, we have the opportunity to close, 1671 01:18:23,196 --> 01:18:26,630 or re-christen, disco 2001 Uh, which is very significant, is very symbolic, 1672 01:18:26,730 --> 01:18:30,364 1673 01:18:30,464 --> 01:18:31,764 to be a nightclub 1674 01:18:32,064 --> 01:18:34,497 that John Travolta dances His legendary dance 1675 01:18:34,597 --> 01:18:35,997 in "Saturday Night Fever." 1676 01:18:36,097 --> 01:18:38,330 Club owners say, "You have your fans in 1677 01:18:38,397 --> 01:18:43,130 " and basically engrossing Disco from our room 1678 01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:44,297 and turn it into a rock club. " 1679 01:18:44,297 --> 01:18:45,730 Elmo, turn on all the lights on! 1680 01:18:46,030 --> 01:18:48,230 It's time to take out the old, and bring new ones! 1681 01:18:48,297 --> 01:18:52,764 Because we have something to say about that! 1682 01:18:53,065 --> 01:18:56,431 1683 01:18:56,498 --> 01:19:01,231 1684 01:19:01,298 --> 01:19:04,765 1685 01:19:09,731 --> 01:19:12,131 Bastard sick! 1686 01:19:12,198 --> 01:19:13,698 That's us! 1687 01:19:13,998 --> 01:19:15,431 Fuck "Saturday Night Fever!" 1688 01:19:15,531 --> 01:19:21,565 Now I ask to sing with us like this - everything now! 1689 01:19:21,665 --> 01:19:24,766 The destruction of the club, 1690 01:19:25,032 --> 01:19:28,566 causes phone calls from others club owners who say, 1691 01:19:28,632 --> 01:19:30,466 "I quit my contract. 1692 01:19:30,532 --> 01:19:32,699 I don't care, ask your fans come and destroy the room." 1693 01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:37,766 And he brought out advertisements - 'Emmett's RIP - Rest in Peace. " 1694 01:19:38,066 --> 01:19:40,332 What are we Destruc-- uh, we entered, 1695 01:19:40,399 --> 01:19:42,766 " Well this was last night, take what you want! " 1696 01:19:43,032 --> 01:19:45,266 Enthusiasts dismantle the room. 1697 01:19:45,366 --> 01:19:46,766 2000 disco? 1698 01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:48,399 Dismantling the room 1699 01:19:48,499 --> 01:19:50,532 Soap Factory in Jersey - 1700 01:19:50,599 --> 01:19:52,000 the last one. 1701 01:20:18,533 --> 01:20:20,268 Does anyone want to listen to us playing music? 1702 01:20:22,434 --> 01:20:25,668 For me that is schticky, 1703 01:20:25,734 --> 01:20:30,401 It's fun, it brings people in, definitely 1704 01:20:30,468 --> 01:20:32,301 But I know it's not that kind of thing 1705 01:20:32,401 --> 01:20:35,434 it will make Twisted Sister world famous. 1706 01:20:35,501 --> 01:20:40,201 Need more bands, more about the music. 1707 01:20:40,301 --> 01:20:44,101 It needs to be combined this idea and their focus. 1708 01:20:44,201 --> 01:20:45,634 The sick mother Friends of Twisted Sister 1709 01:20:45,701 --> 01:20:49,402 officially developed around the time of Bad Boys, 1710 01:20:49,502 --> 01:20:53,169 with member card, and welcome letter. 1711 01:20:53,269 --> 01:20:56,669 Our friend knows that we refer to our friends 1712 01:20:56,735 --> 01:20:59,635 as the mother meets the sick, you see? 1713 01:21:02,069 --> 01:21:04,735 That's because we sick bastards 1714 01:21:05,035 --> 01:21:07,735 So what we do is we start an organization, 1715 01:21:08,035 --> 01:21:11,502 rather than calling it Twisted Sister Fan Club, 1716 01:21:11,602 --> 01:21:13,769 Because it sounds like pussy shit, Do you know what I'm saying? 1717 01:21:14,069 --> 01:21:15,235 I am a Twisted Fan, ooh! 1718 01:21:15,335 --> 01:21:17,502 That's nonsense. 1719 01:21:17,569 --> 01:21:21,103 We call it Motherfucking Pain Friends of Twisted Sister! 1720 01:21:23,103 --> 01:21:25,270 I have a lot of sadness from people, 1721 01:21:25,370 --> 01:21:27,570 like you know, "do you like it?" 1722 01:21:27,670 --> 01:21:31,603 And I think the band is reversing it To their advantage, you know? 1723 01:21:31,703 --> 01:21:34,136 You are one of us You are dirt 1724 01:21:34,203 --> 01:21:37,003 You biker You are S.M.F., you know. You're one of us 1725 01:21:37,070 --> 01:21:39,036 And it's banded people together. 1726 01:21:39,103 --> 01:21:42,403 I have hatred for all types of people 1727 01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:44,470 who will look down on me with disgust. 1728 01:21:44,536 --> 01:21:46,103 I deal with them my whole life 1729 01:21:46,203 --> 01:21:49,737 And find that there are more than "mes" in the world 1730 01:21:50,004 --> 01:21:51,371 from there from cool people. 1731 01:21:51,437 --> 01:21:54,504 All S.M.F. what's wrong about all these people 1732 01:21:54,604 --> 01:21:56,237 come together and find each other... 1733 01:21:57,671 --> 01:22:01,137 and create "cool" where none. 1734 01:22:01,237 --> 01:22:04,271 If you want to clap and shout, clap and shout! 1735 01:22:04,371 --> 01:22:07,171 If you want to jump around and get out of your damn mind, 1736 01:22:07,237 --> 01:22:08,737 out of your damn mind 1737 01:22:09,037 --> 01:22:10,737 Because it's not fucking trouble! 1738 01:22:11,037 --> 01:22:14,004 No problem what other people think, 1739 01:22:14,071 --> 01:22:15,504 the only is a damn problem 1740 01:22:15,604 --> 01:22:17,272 what do you think? 1741 01:22:17,338 --> 01:22:21,072 And if you like you, fuck everyone 1742 01:22:21,172 --> 01:22:24,105 Beautiful people. Beautiful people, 1743 01:22:24,205 --> 01:22:28,505 cool people, and people together, 1744 01:22:28,572 --> 01:22:29,605 they are a minority. 1745 01:22:29,672 --> 01:22:33,272 The majority of us are fair Joes and Janes are ordinary. 1746 01:22:33,338 --> 01:22:35,738 And we feel less than others-- 1747 01:22:36,005 --> 01:22:38,505 not in the Twisted Sister world. 1748 01:22:39,705 --> 01:22:42,038 I will sit at home and consider, 1749 01:22:42,138 --> 01:22:44,605 okay, I can get out with my friends to a bar 1750 01:22:44,705 --> 01:22:48,406 in an area five miles away and see some other bands, 1751 01:22:48,473 --> 01:22:52,606 or drive 40 miles snow to go see Sister, 1752 01:22:52,706 --> 01:22:55,339 you know, at Emmett in Jamesburgh. 1753 01:22:55,406 --> 01:22:56,773 And for me That is an easy decision. 1754 01:22:57,039 --> 01:22:59,406 Rain, snow, hail, hail, don't matter 1755 01:22:59,506 --> 01:23:01,173 We just left We got into the car. 1756 01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,339 We have a pot. We got beer money. We have money to enter 1757 01:23:04,406 --> 01:23:05,639 We bring it to Detroit! 1758 01:23:05,706 --> 01:23:08,639 We have a broken car. We have to leave the car there 1759 01:23:08,706 --> 01:23:11,006 and basically have to stack seven people 1760 01:23:11,106 --> 01:23:13,039 at Firebird to go home. 1761 01:23:13,106 --> 01:23:15,074 And it's still worth the trip 1762 01:23:15,174 --> 01:23:19,374 Just say I will go on average three times a week. 1763 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:20,707 Maybe four. 1764 01:23:20,774 --> 01:23:24,040 I remember most of the from the audience that came 1765 01:23:24,107 --> 01:23:25,740 from Farmingdale, Long Island. 1766 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,607 Dan Farmingdale, Long Island 1767 01:23:27,707 --> 01:23:30,774 is a good three and a half hours away from the Final Examination. 1768 01:23:31,074 --> 01:23:32,274 I will not go to Farmingdale. 1769 01:23:32,374 --> 01:23:34,374 It's possible to see Sinatra, but that's about it 1770 01:23:34,474 --> 01:23:37,107 And for children from Jersey there always rule these two rivers. 1771 01:23:37,174 --> 01:23:39,374 I mean, you will cross one river into Manhattan, 1772 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,140 but cross two rivers to Long Island, 1773 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,375 That means too far. 1774 01:23:43,441 --> 01:23:46,075 And we will go and be hammered and exit, 1775 01:23:46,175 --> 01:23:47,041 You know after the show, 1776 01:23:47,041 --> 01:23:48,275 and enter the car and faint 1777 01:23:48,275 --> 01:23:50,008 and in the morning get up and go home. 1778 01:23:50,075 --> 01:23:52,041 Often I fall off right at work 1779 01:23:52,108 --> 01:23:54,341 Basically washing my face, works eight hours, 1780 01:23:54,441 --> 01:23:56,608 sleep a few hours and do everything again. 1781 01:23:59,441 --> 01:24:00,608 You laugh That's what we do. 1782 01:24:03,741 --> 01:24:05,241 If you like what we are doing, 1783 01:24:05,308 --> 01:24:08,608 show us what we are we do, bastard 1784 01:24:11,008 --> 01:24:12,542 Or if you don't want to do it, 1785 01:24:12,609 --> 01:24:15,309 You can turn around, loose your fucking ass, 1786 01:24:15,409 --> 01:24:16,676 and get out of here, 1787 01:24:16,776 --> 01:24:19,576 and go to another place where you will be more appreciated 1788 01:24:19,676 --> 01:24:22,476 Because we can't give two nonsense about you 1789 01:24:23,642 --> 01:24:27,609 I started to get angry men, that is my thing on stage. 1790 01:24:27,709 --> 01:24:30,742 Jay Jay is a storyteller, 1791 01:24:31,042 --> 01:24:33,609 kind of relaxed from men, you know 1792 01:24:33,709 --> 01:24:37,076 But I did it was angry with the audience, 1793 01:24:38,209 --> 01:24:40,076 and tear others in the audience. 1794 01:24:40,142 --> 01:24:44,343 ♪ He spends his life sentinel silent ♪ 1795 01:24:44,410 --> 01:24:47,077 ♪ For everything to fear ♪ 1796 01:24:47,143 --> 01:24:49,777 ♪ He walks, he talks, According to him, he feels ♪ 1797 01:24:50,043 --> 01:24:53,143 ♪ But no one dares to approach ♪ 1798 01:24:53,210 --> 01:24:56,177 ♪ He takes everything he sees ♪ 1799 01:24:56,277 --> 01:24:59,477 ♪ Nothing escapes his gaze ♪ 1800 01:24:59,577 --> 01:25:01,210 ♪ And when he attacks ♪ 1801 01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:04,643 ♪ He attacks for right, beautiful scenery ♪ 1802 01:25:04,743 --> 01:25:11,244 ♪ Destructive, destructive, he's in town... ♪ 1803 01:25:11,344 --> 01:25:14,178 I equate Jay Jay with being a preacher. 1804 01:25:14,244 --> 01:25:16,678 He can make people cry and scream. 1805 01:25:16,744 --> 01:25:18,411 He has a gift gab. 1806 01:25:18,511 --> 01:25:20,244 He is like a preacher. 1807 01:25:20,311 --> 01:25:22,011 Dee isn't so much like a preacher, 1808 01:25:22,111 --> 01:25:24,011 Dee is like a demon. 1809 01:25:24,078 --> 01:25:26,178 You know. If not, he will kill you 1810 01:25:26,278 --> 01:25:29,278 He usually chooses that person will stand there, you know, 1811 01:25:29,344 --> 01:25:31,711 "Oh, I'm not going to enter Twisted Sister. I'm too cool." 1812 01:25:31,778 --> 01:25:33,044 That's all. 1813 01:25:33,144 --> 01:25:35,211 Dee put his view on people 1814 01:25:35,311 --> 01:25:38,078 and we turn on the lights on them and they are smashed to pieces. 1815 01:25:38,178 --> 01:25:40,079 If you are one person who is just standing there 1816 01:25:40,145 --> 01:25:41,145 - He caught you - Yeah. 1817 01:25:41,212 --> 01:25:43,512 - surely you have - We are very diligent 1818 01:25:43,612 --> 01:25:46,479 that we will come out from our mind crazy at all times. 1819 01:25:46,545 --> 01:25:50,512 So Dee doesn't catch us yawning, or like not crazy. 1820 01:25:50,579 --> 01:25:52,712 If he looks at our direction, what are we like? 1821 01:25:54,012 --> 01:25:54,745 ♪ One day will arrive ♪ 1822 01:25:55,012 --> 01:25:59,579 ♪ You will be interested your city center ♪ 1823 01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:01,345 "Yeah, you're back there! 1824 01:26:01,445 --> 01:26:03,612 I want to see you put your hand together!" 1825 01:26:03,712 --> 01:26:07,345 And if not responds well, 1826 01:26:07,445 --> 01:26:10,046 then Dee will invite the rest from the audience 1827 01:26:10,113 --> 01:26:12,346 to advise them, by turning around, 1828 01:26:12,413 --> 01:26:15,246 face that person At the back of the room there, 1829 01:26:15,346 --> 01:26:18,013 and at a count of three we want you to shout, 1830 01:26:18,113 --> 01:26:20,480 "Release it!" 1831 01:26:20,546 --> 01:26:24,046 "Release it! Get it - and you will be - 1832 01:26:24,146 --> 01:26:25,546 The sound will deafening. 1833 01:26:25,613 --> 01:26:27,746 " Release it! Get - " 1834 01:26:28,013 --> 01:26:30,713 These people really will - You will see them starting to crawl to the corner 1835 01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:32,746 because now everyone See them, 1836 01:26:33,046 --> 01:26:34,680 bands make fun of them, 1837 01:26:34,746 --> 01:26:36,713 I mean after three o'clock or four minutes 1838 01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:38,214 they will only be destroyed 1839 01:26:38,781 --> 01:26:40,614 You'd better stay outside from that damn 'way 1840 01:26:40,714 --> 01:26:44,081 This will kick your ass. 1841 01:26:44,147 --> 01:26:45,681 Yes! 1842 01:26:59,347 --> 01:27:00,281 I get everyone 1843 01:27:00,381 --> 01:27:02,714 where to react by threatening them 1844 01:27:03,014 --> 01:27:04,281 But they are afraid, 1845 01:27:04,381 --> 01:27:07,082 not only from me, but from the people around them. 1846 01:27:07,182 --> 01:27:09,148 That if you don't respond, 1847 01:27:09,215 --> 01:27:13,548 that this crowd is very intense can turn it on 1848 01:27:13,615 --> 01:27:16,648 Sort of "Day Of The Locust" briefly. 1849 01:27:16,748 --> 01:27:18,448 Be the people in the audience, 1850 01:27:18,515 --> 01:27:20,615 even though I have started 100% participation, 1851 01:27:20,715 --> 01:27:22,548 Their hearts are not really in it 1852 01:27:22,648 --> 01:27:25,282 They are just afraid. 1853 01:27:32,282 --> 01:27:34,582 You have Mad Hatter in Stonybrook 1854 01:27:34,682 --> 01:27:36,783 You have Hammerheads in Levittown 1855 01:27:37,049 --> 01:27:39,449 You have Gemini at Yorktown Heights 1856 01:27:39,549 --> 01:27:42,183 Then the next level above is your Speaks. 1857 01:27:42,283 --> 01:27:44,649 Speaking is the culmination of it holds 2,000 people. 1858 01:27:44,716 --> 01:27:46,349 And you will start doing that. 1859 01:27:46,683 --> 01:27:49,449 When new Hammerheads are opened, room hierarchy 1860 01:27:49,449 --> 01:27:51,749 are as follows - Long Island Hammerheads II, 1861 01:27:52,049 --> 01:27:53,516 3,300 people. 1862 01:27:53,616 --> 01:27:56,283 Glen Island Casino, 3,300 people. 1863 01:27:56,383 --> 01:27:58,649 And then as much as that like a Soap Factory can hold, 1864 01:27:58,716 --> 01:28:01,149 2,500 on several floors, 1865 01:28:01,249 --> 01:28:03,116 big daddy is a Fountain Casino. 1866 01:28:03,216 --> 01:28:05,384 5,000 people. 1867 01:28:05,617 --> 01:28:07,517 If you can headline this room, 1868 01:28:07,517 --> 01:28:08,517 You are the biggest band. 1869 01:28:08,584 --> 01:28:11,550 So in 1981 we finally reached our goal, 1870 01:28:11,617 --> 01:28:13,717 and not only are we headlining each of them, 1871 01:28:14,017 --> 01:28:16,050 we don't like all others 1872 01:28:16,117 --> 01:28:18,050 We are the number one drawing in the fountain 1873 01:28:18,117 --> 01:28:19,584 We are number one drawing on Glen Island. 1874 01:28:19,684 --> 01:28:21,617 We are number one drawing in Hammerheads. 1875 01:28:21,684 --> 01:28:24,517 And where did it leave us? 1876 01:28:24,617 --> 01:28:27,517 If we don't come out, we will die 1877 01:28:27,617 --> 01:28:31,684 These bands Markets make lots of money 1878 01:28:31,784 --> 01:28:35,651 it's very difficult they even try to branch out, 1879 01:28:35,718 --> 01:28:38,285 say go to California, go to L.A. 1880 01:28:38,351 --> 01:28:39,785 There is no point-- they will go to L.A. 1881 01:28:40,051 --> 01:28:41,618 They may have to pay to play. 1882 01:28:41,685 --> 01:28:43,685 Where in this market they make three, 1883 01:28:43,751 --> 01:28:46,151 five, seven thousand rupiah night 1884 01:28:46,218 --> 01:28:48,485 Twisted makes ten thousand in several places. 1885 01:28:48,585 --> 01:28:49,551 That's crazy! 1886 01:28:49,618 --> 01:28:53,351 You can make lots of money - in some cases - on this circuit, 1887 01:28:53,451 --> 01:28:56,618 that many people see it as it works on this circuit 1888 01:28:56,685 --> 01:28:58,085 is the end for himself. 1889 01:28:58,185 --> 01:29:01,085 I have to call him "velvet dagger". 1890 01:29:01,151 --> 01:29:02,119 Where, you know, 1891 01:29:02,219 --> 01:29:06,052 it will be very comfortable but you stay at the end. 1892 01:29:06,119 --> 01:29:08,019 You can definitely fall into a situation 1893 01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:10,486 where will this never end, do you know? 1894 01:29:10,552 --> 01:29:12,419 I mean who wants sit at the table 1895 01:29:12,519 --> 01:29:14,619 and say, what if the age of drinking changes? 1896 01:29:14,686 --> 01:29:16,652 Because of me That is what happened. 1897 01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:19,452 It killed him. I mean, When you are drinking in, 1898 01:29:19,519 --> 01:29:22,019 then you have younger children who might have entered it, 1899 01:29:22,086 --> 01:29:23,486 they can't go to the club anymore 1900 01:29:23,586 --> 01:29:29,219 I know that human cuts, right, from 18 to 21, 1901 01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,187 I can't imagine how much 1902 01:29:31,253 --> 01:29:34,720 that in the span of three years who can't come to the nightclub, 1903 01:29:34,787 --> 01:29:37,720 can't enter the bar, can't enter the liquor store 1904 01:29:37,787 --> 01:29:39,453 I was born and raised in Brooklyn, 1905 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,787 like I said before, so I'm always 18. 1906 01:29:42,053 --> 01:29:44,220 And at 18 it means you drink at 16 1907 01:29:44,287 --> 01:29:47,653 So the rock scene starts to die little. This starts to die. 1908 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,220 And the club can't afford band 1909 01:29:50,287 --> 01:29:52,753 like Twisted Sister or Zebra or Rat Race, 1910 01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:54,487 But they need those bands. 1911 01:29:54,587 --> 01:29:56,220 Because they can't survive without them. 1912 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,387 We will sit and book for six months. 1913 01:29:59,453 --> 01:30:01,254 And we will say it give us twisted 1914 01:30:01,354 --> 01:30:03,721 every six weeks because we need to pay rent 1915 01:30:03,788 --> 01:30:05,388 So we know that Twisted is there, 1916 01:30:05,488 --> 01:30:07,454 You will have a crowded night, register will ring, 1917 01:30:07,521 --> 01:30:09,054 and you will pay rent from them! 1918 01:30:17,454 --> 01:30:18,421 The money we make 1919 01:30:18,488 --> 01:30:22,021 put back consistently into the equipment, become a demo, 1920 01:30:22,088 --> 01:30:23,621 and become advertising. 1921 01:30:23,688 --> 01:30:24,788 And the ad part 1922 01:30:25,054 --> 01:30:27,088 I can't discount because the ad part is 1923 01:30:27,188 --> 01:30:28,521 This is what gives the world ideas 1924 01:30:28,588 --> 01:30:29,755 that Twisted Sister is everywhere 1925 01:30:30,389 --> 01:30:32,055 ♪ You are cornered in the alley way ♪ 1926 01:30:32,155 --> 01:30:34,489 ♪ You know you're alone ♪ 1927 01:30:34,555 --> 01:30:36,489 ♪ You know it will happen end this way ♪ 1928 01:30:36,589 --> 01:30:38,589 ♪ The cold goes to the bone ♪ 1929 01:30:38,655 --> 01:30:41,022 ♪ Right now he's a sparkling lamp ♪ 1930 01:30:41,089 --> 01:30:43,155 ♪ This goes to your side ♪ 1931 01:30:43,255 --> 01:30:45,255 ♪ Darkness comes, Tonight night ♪ 1932 01:30:45,355 --> 01:30:47,255 ♪ Blade will rise ♪ 1933 01:30:47,355 --> 01:30:51,755 ♪ Because you are under the knife, ohh ♪ 1934 01:30:52,022 --> 01:30:54,789 ♪ You are under the sword... ♪ 1935 01:30:55,055 --> 01:30:57,555 We are in the media capital of the world, New York City, 1936 01:30:57,655 --> 01:30:59,556 and we don't have it a record contract 1937 01:30:59,623 --> 01:31:01,456 But we can buy radio time. 1938 01:31:01,556 --> 01:31:04,556 Airplay, what really is, In those days, 1939 01:31:04,623 --> 01:31:07,556 really driving everything in the music business - 1940 01:31:07,623 --> 01:31:11,756 FM is played-- is beyond our ability. 1941 01:31:12,056 --> 01:31:17,623 So what are we trying to do to fill That hole makes hits. 1942 01:31:17,690 --> 01:31:19,123 So what do we do? 1943 01:31:19,223 --> 01:31:21,290 We started buying air time with the club. 1944 01:31:21,390 --> 01:31:26,690 We will buy 30, 40, 50 - 30 seconds or one minute on weekends, 1945 01:31:31,257 --> 01:31:33,057 So what do you get for your 30 dollars for a while? 1946 01:31:33,157 --> 01:31:34,524 Now you can write a very funny place, 1947 01:31:34,591 --> 01:31:36,324 or you can take your own music and play it 1948 01:31:36,391 --> 01:31:38,157 for all minutes and only marks the beginning of 1949 01:31:38,224 --> 01:31:39,691 and commercial end 1950 01:31:39,757 --> 01:31:42,091 with Twisted Sister playing Speaks, 1951 01:31:42,157 --> 01:31:44,291 and it sounds like Twisted Sister's the song is on the radio 1952 01:31:48,524 --> 01:31:50,324 So many people think of our song 1953 01:31:50,391 --> 01:31:52,524 is playing on the radio even though it's actually just 1954 01:31:52,624 --> 01:31:54,691 the constant drumbeat from the ad. 1955 01:31:54,791 --> 01:31:57,158 And everyone hears it this ad 1956 01:31:57,225 --> 01:31:59,592 When Twisted wants, Say, you know, you must have played 1957 01:31:59,692 --> 01:32:01,758 "Bad Boys of Rock 'n' Roll" - whatever it is, 1958 01:32:02,025 --> 01:32:04,058 the song they play - people will go crazy 1959 01:32:04,158 --> 01:32:06,358 because it's like a cover song that they hear on the radio. 1960 01:32:06,458 --> 01:32:07,725 And they heard it it on the radio! 1961 01:32:26,026 --> 01:32:29,393 We are children of posters for unusual actions 1962 01:32:29,459 --> 01:32:31,693 And people will say all kinds of things insulting things 1963 01:32:31,759 --> 01:32:33,626 about us based on the series we play, 1964 01:32:35,559 --> 01:32:37,059 It's difficult to get an agreement. 1965 01:32:42,293 --> 01:32:44,726 Label coming to table, 1966 01:32:44,793 --> 01:32:48,626 is the one that-- You will make a deal with, 1967 01:32:48,726 --> 01:32:50,193 You will shake hands and everything. 1968 01:32:50,259 --> 01:32:52,593 And it looks like you will never hear from them again 1969 01:32:52,659 --> 01:32:57,360 Now we lower it our view is to indies 1970 01:32:57,427 --> 01:33:00,560 I remember the Handshake deal. When we get a contract, 1971 01:33:00,660 --> 01:33:03,294 they are basically indentured slavery 1972 01:33:03,394 --> 01:33:05,760 Literally, the man takes it all 1973 01:33:06,027 --> 01:33:09,527 and we just want, uh, sort of salary. 1974 01:33:09,594 --> 01:33:11,160 And we have to say, "No." 1975 01:33:12,794 --> 01:33:16,127 But the Hansa or Handshake agreement doesn't work. 1976 01:33:16,194 --> 01:33:19,027 But agreement with this German company, X, does it. 1977 01:33:19,094 --> 01:33:22,694 And this person likes our stuff and we negotiate 1978 01:33:22,761 --> 01:33:24,161 all recording contracts with him. 1979 01:33:24,228 --> 01:33:27,395 Overall agreement And in spring '81, 1980 01:33:27,495 --> 01:33:31,261 he flies from L.A. to New York back to Germany. 1981 01:33:31,328 --> 01:33:32,761 And we met him at the airport 1982 01:33:33,028 --> 01:33:34,495 and we submit the last letter to him 1983 01:33:34,561 --> 01:33:35,528 We give him a new demo. 1984 01:33:35,595 --> 01:33:38,295 He submits us final contract 1985 01:33:38,361 --> 01:33:40,395 And we think this is our agreement 1986 01:33:40,461 --> 01:33:42,261 And then I understand the phone call the next day. 1987 01:33:42,261 --> 01:33:43,328 My lawyer said, "Are you sitting?" 1988 01:33:43,328 --> 01:33:46,095 "Yes, why?" He said, "Alright the record producer collapsed 1989 01:33:46,095 --> 01:33:48,061 on the plane to Germany. He had a heart attack." 1990 01:33:48,161 --> 01:33:49,195 The deal is complete Bang. 1991 01:33:49,261 --> 01:33:52,062 Everyone says how difficult it is to get an agreement now 1992 01:33:52,129 --> 01:33:53,562 It always happens it's hard to get an agreement 1993 01:33:53,629 --> 01:33:55,029 There are always several reasons-- 1994 01:33:55,096 --> 01:33:57,096 they are always something wrong with the economy. 1995 01:33:57,196 --> 01:33:58,629 That's the world. 1996 01:33:58,729 --> 01:34:00,696 I mean, you know, do you give up? 1997 01:34:00,762 --> 01:34:02,129 No. You don't give up. 1998 01:34:02,229 --> 01:34:04,796 You keep going until it happens. 1999 01:34:05,096 --> 01:34:06,262 Or you die trying. 2000 01:34:09,396 --> 01:34:12,129 Twisted Sister extinguishes it The single "I Will Not Grow". 2001 01:34:12,196 --> 01:34:13,562 Initially Joe Gerber will do it 2002 01:34:13,662 --> 01:34:15,329 sell them out from the trunk of his car, 2003 01:34:15,429 --> 01:34:18,196 You know to the local store in the Tri-State area, 2004 01:34:18,296 --> 01:34:23,197 where they play, where they will be sold, at the show. 2005 01:34:23,263 --> 01:34:26,597 And I work for Important Record Recording 2006 01:34:26,663 --> 01:34:28,763 And I think is a good idea, 2007 01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:32,430 Because I really love this band to try to get the distributor 2008 01:34:32,497 --> 01:34:35,397 to sell it outside the New York metro area. 2009 01:34:35,497 --> 01:34:38,397 So it feels like, uh, this rinky-dink single... 2010 01:34:38,463 --> 01:34:40,430 why are we playing? No one cares. 2011 01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:42,430 So, work for record distributors 2012 01:34:42,530 --> 01:34:45,597 related to imported music, Not just a note, 2013 01:34:45,697 --> 01:34:48,763 You will get all music papers - "New Music Express," 2014 01:34:53,198 --> 01:34:56,098 "Voice" is directed a little harder. 2015 01:34:56,198 --> 01:34:59,698 So I sent a few more singles to the "Sounds" magazine 2016 01:34:59,764 --> 01:35:02,631 write a little handwriting letter, "This is the biggest, 2017 01:35:02,731 --> 01:35:04,364 biggest band bar in New York. 2018 01:35:04,431 --> 01:35:06,731 Next Superstar -" whatever I write 2019 01:35:06,798 --> 01:35:09,598 Look, three or four weeks later, 2020 01:35:09,664 --> 01:35:10,731 Twisted Sister in the chart. 2021 01:35:10,798 --> 01:35:12,331 Wow! This is good 2022 01:35:12,398 --> 01:35:14,498 Next week, they are in that chart again. 2023 01:35:14,564 --> 01:35:17,431 Suddenly, at the distributor, 2024 01:35:17,531 --> 01:35:20,099 we don't sell singles for people in America, 2025 01:35:20,165 --> 01:35:21,699 but we export single - 2026 01:35:25,065 --> 01:35:26,565 Because there is a request there 2027 01:35:26,632 --> 01:35:27,765 What you have in "Sounds," 2028 01:35:28,065 --> 01:35:30,099 You have a personal playlist from the authors, 2029 01:35:30,199 --> 01:35:33,165 which every week we will choose three songs we listen to. 2030 01:35:33,232 --> 01:35:34,499 And they might be three songs 2031 01:35:34,599 --> 01:35:36,299 which is actually released. 2032 01:35:36,299 --> 01:35:38,032 With me often or not it is a demo tape. 2033 01:35:38,099 --> 01:35:41,232 Or sometimes you will even put songs you've ever seen live 2034 01:35:41,299 --> 01:35:44,199 That's not scientific. That is really populist. 2035 01:35:44,265 --> 01:35:45,399 We feel it's our way 2036 01:35:45,465 --> 01:35:47,032 directly communicate with readers 2037 01:35:47,032 --> 01:35:49,033 And there are many readers coming back Then, you know what I mean? 2038 01:35:49,033 --> 01:35:51,733 "Voice" at that time was close to to a quarter of one million sales, 2039 01:35:52,033 --> 01:35:54,066 be a reader Maybe four times. 2040 01:35:54,166 --> 01:35:56,733 So even though one in ten of them pay attention to the playlist, 2041 01:35:57,033 --> 01:35:59,433 That's still enough people to go out and make something happen. 2042 01:35:59,500 --> 01:36:04,300 We got a call saying that "Sounds" magazine in the UK, 2043 01:36:04,366 --> 01:36:07,100 has this playlist, 2044 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,600 and one of the authors has placed "Under the Blade" 2045 01:36:10,666 --> 01:36:14,366 as the number one song in his personal playlist. 2046 01:36:14,466 --> 01:36:15,566 In the real paper, 2047 01:36:15,666 --> 01:36:18,401 on music paper it's not Long Island paper! 2048 01:36:18,467 --> 01:36:20,401 This is actually not even American paper! 2049 01:36:20,467 --> 01:36:21,534 This is an English paper! 2050 01:36:21,601 --> 01:36:24,034 They don't know us. They don't know anything about us 2051 01:36:24,101 --> 01:36:25,167 None. 2052 01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:27,434 And we contact "Sounds" 2053 01:36:27,501 --> 01:36:30,301 and they sent a writer, Garry Bushell. 2054 01:36:30,401 --> 01:36:33,234 So I go down to some damned hole in, 2055 01:36:33,334 --> 01:36:36,134 um, Westchester-- Westchester state 2056 01:36:36,201 --> 01:36:37,601 And that's awesome! 2057 01:36:37,667 --> 01:36:40,067 Seeing Twisted Sister and their audience, 2058 01:36:40,134 --> 01:36:42,201 in what we will call a spit and sawdust pub, 2059 01:36:42,267 --> 01:36:43,767 like an old club that is rude and rude. 2060 01:36:44,034 --> 01:36:46,302 And rightly so like the right wild person-- 2061 01:36:46,368 --> 01:36:48,235 audience-- they really went for it 2062 01:36:48,335 --> 01:36:51,035 Twisted Sister, I mean they have a glam look, 2063 01:36:51,135 --> 01:36:53,302 but because it is so so big and so butch, 2064 01:36:53,402 --> 01:36:55,268 they see like docker in drag. 2065 01:36:55,368 --> 01:36:56,568 They are not like boys who are beautiful at all 2066 01:36:56,668 --> 01:36:59,302 It feels like Cinderella is ugly sister who has a convention 2067 01:36:59,368 --> 01:37:00,468 That's shocking! 2068 01:37:00,568 --> 01:37:02,402 And he wrote this incredible story 2069 01:37:02,468 --> 01:37:04,068 called "Sledgehammer Sister." 2070 01:37:04,168 --> 01:37:07,302 And, you know, talking about want to release this iceberg - 2071 01:37:07,368 --> 01:37:09,068 this will be published in '81, 2072 01:37:09,135 --> 01:37:11,435 I don't believe, what might happen? 2073 01:37:11,502 --> 01:37:14,602 The next thing you hear is that this label is called Secret Records-- 2074 01:37:14,669 --> 01:37:16,436 a punk-- label wants to sign it. 2075 01:37:16,503 --> 01:37:18,769 Our manager tells us he flew in 2076 01:37:19,036 --> 01:37:22,436 to see us at Mid-Hudson Civic Center. 2077 01:37:22,536 --> 01:37:25,403 We are headlining and, um, do you know? 2078 01:37:25,503 --> 01:37:27,369 This is our cynicism. 2079 01:37:27,436 --> 01:37:30,803 I say, the man's plane will be accident before landing 2080 01:37:31,069 --> 01:37:32,403 But even if the land is, 2081 01:37:32,469 --> 01:37:34,569 He will die in a car accident on the way to the gig 2082 01:37:34,636 --> 01:37:38,203 But even if he gets there, P.A. will fall on his head 2083 01:37:38,303 --> 01:37:40,103 But even if we are great, 2084 01:37:40,203 --> 01:37:42,369 he will die on the way home to the airport. 2085 01:37:42,469 --> 01:37:43,403 But even if he lives, 2086 01:37:43,469 --> 01:37:46,737 he will die when the plane crashes into the sea 2087 01:37:46,804 --> 01:37:49,170 when I.R.A. bomb that blow. 2088 01:37:49,237 --> 01:37:51,704 I took my girlfriend, and we will do it Ever been to a party the night before 2089 01:37:51,770 --> 01:37:53,237 and we haven't slept yet. 2090 01:37:53,304 --> 01:37:57,204 And we catch a redeye out there and don't sleep 2091 01:37:57,270 --> 01:38:00,337 And we got there and we just messed up. 2092 01:38:00,404 --> 01:38:03,337 And uh, Mark picked us up and, uh, 2093 01:38:03,404 --> 01:38:05,170 with all the best wishes In the world, 2094 01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:08,037 Mark can speak Olympic level. 2095 01:38:08,104 --> 01:38:12,504 And he just persuaded my ears all the way out to Poughkeepsie. 2096 01:38:12,604 --> 01:38:14,071 and Poughkeepsie-- 2097 01:38:14,171 --> 01:38:15,605 I've never heard of it from Poughkeepsie, 2098 01:38:19,305 --> 01:38:21,505 I only hallucinate, I'm very tired. 2099 01:38:21,605 --> 01:38:26,505 And, uh, we got there and that place... big. 2100 01:38:26,605 --> 01:38:29,238 I kind of expect a small club 2101 01:38:29,305 --> 01:38:31,271 And it's like a big hall. 2102 01:38:31,338 --> 01:38:35,071 And we go in there and there are several thousand people. 2103 01:38:35,138 --> 01:38:36,505 And I think, "This is crazy!" 2104 01:38:36,571 --> 01:38:39,105 This is a band that hasn't got a record contract, 2105 01:38:39,171 --> 01:38:41,205 how do they do this? 2106 01:38:43,639 --> 01:38:46,206 And the reaction From children is spectacular. 2107 01:38:46,272 --> 01:38:48,739 I mean they are fair go crazy. 2108 01:38:49,039 --> 01:38:53,372 So, uh, I look at me boyfriend and he loves that. 2109 01:38:53,472 --> 01:38:56,406 And I think, "We can do something with this. 2110 01:38:56,506 --> 01:38:57,572 This is brilliant. " 2111 01:39:00,772 --> 01:39:03,672 At the end of the event I go backstage to see the band 2112 01:39:08,806 --> 01:39:10,039 than I've seen in my life. 2113 01:39:10,139 --> 01:39:12,507 Cash, piles of it from merchandising. big, 2114 01:39:12,573 --> 01:39:15,107 I think there's a torn poster below. 2115 01:39:17,073 --> 01:39:19,140 And, uh, and I'm looking for on this thought, 2116 01:39:19,207 --> 01:39:22,807 "Nonsense, I'll never be able to buy this band ! " 2117 01:39:23,073 --> 01:39:25,173 And one of them turns and says, 2118 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:26,607 " Hey, you have to sign it. We are very cheap! " 2119 01:39:26,673 --> 01:39:29,440 So he shows up. He loves bands. He says band, 2120 01:39:29,507 --> 01:39:32,773 2121 01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,040 he wants to contract us We don't react at all. 2122 01:39:35,107 --> 01:39:38,507 We are just like, uh, okay 2123 01:39:38,573 --> 01:39:41,341 It feels like, you know, I think Martin Hooker, 2124 01:39:41,408 --> 01:39:42,741 his name, he is like, 2125 01:39:44,708 --> 01:39:46,308 And Mark Puma is like, 2126 01:39:46,408 --> 01:39:48,641 "Yeah, they've heard this _ a few times before. 2127 01:39:48,708 --> 01:39:50,674 " Don't worry, they will be happy 2128 01:39:50,741 --> 01:39:52,274 when are they actually on the plane. " 2129 01:40:00,074 --> 01:40:01,508 Come on dear! 2130 01:40:01,574 --> 01:40:03,774 It's time to tear it loose! 2131 01:40:07,174 --> 01:40:10,142 ♪ There's no way I will do it wait Saturday night ♪ 2132 01:41:49,001 --> 01:40:12,675 ♪ I work all day, I work hard far away, I have to set it right ♪ 2133 01:40:12,742 --> 01:40:14,675 ♪ Will hit the streets, sail around ♪ 2134 01:40:14,775 --> 01:40:16,075 ♪ I have to find some action ♪ 2135 01:40:16,142 --> 01:40:19,542 ♪ It won't stop until I fall or get some satisfaction ♪ 2136 01:40:19,609 --> 01:40:21,075 Unfortunately there are some problems 2137 01:40:21,175 --> 01:40:24,375 with our drummer Tony Petrie, and, uh... 2138 01:40:25,742 --> 01:40:27,242 he left the band. 2139 01:40:27,342 --> 01:40:29,642 He was asked to leave the band in other words. 2140 01:40:29,742 --> 01:40:33,075 There are many things that lead to it with violence, 2141 01:40:33,175 --> 01:40:36,175 just like aggressive and violent behavior, you know 2142 01:40:36,242 --> 01:40:38,110 That is difficult for everyone. 2143 01:40:38,176 --> 01:40:41,676 ♪ Will tear it, the torn loose ♪ 2144 01:40:41,776 --> 01:40:44,410 We passed it series of drummers. 2145 01:40:44,476 --> 01:40:45,810 We have Joey Brighton 2146 01:40:46,076 --> 01:40:49,410 and then we bring Ritchie Teeter temporary content 2147 01:40:49,476 --> 01:40:50,543 until we find someone 2148 01:41:00,643 --> 01:41:03,043 Everyone we try is competent, you know? 2149 01:41:03,110 --> 01:41:07,544 Good players, but only-- for some reason - not gelling, 2150 01:41:07,644 --> 01:41:10,377 And then so we tried A.J. Pero, 2151 01:41:10,477 --> 01:41:11,377 I knew right away. 2152 01:41:11,477 --> 01:41:14,477 I looked at Dee and she looked at my , and we left like, "Oh yeah!" 2153 01:41:14,544 --> 01:41:15,677 Everyone! 2154 01:41:15,777 --> 01:41:18,777 On drums, A.J. Pero! 2155 01:41:20,144 --> 01:41:21,611 It feels like me missing link 2156 01:41:21,677 --> 01:41:24,077 I am what they need. I am power 2157 01:41:24,144 --> 01:41:26,577 I am an additional fee, do you know? 2158 01:41:26,644 --> 01:41:28,111 Load them, boom! 2159 01:41:29,177 --> 01:41:30,311 We signed the agreement. 2160 01:41:30,411 --> 01:41:34,477 We did our farewell concert in the New York area in June. 2161 01:41:34,577 --> 01:41:36,512 Six years we've worked, 2162 01:41:36,612 --> 01:41:39,212 play, finish off our ass, 2163 01:41:39,278 --> 01:41:42,512 play for every sick person bastards on Long Island, 2164 01:41:42,578 --> 01:41:44,512 New York, New Jersey, Connecticut! 2165 01:41:44,612 --> 01:41:48,745 Doing our ball to get us a recording contract 2166 01:41:48,812 --> 01:41:51,545 so we can be what we are meant to be-- 2167 01:41:51,645 --> 01:41:53,778 the biggest, heaviest, 2168 01:41:54,045 --> 01:41:57,578 rock 'n' roll band most kick-ass In the world! 2169 01:41:59,612 --> 01:42:02,778 And now the time has come. 2170 01:42:03,045 --> 01:42:07,479 This is our last performance before we leave Friday night 2171 01:42:07,546 --> 01:42:10,346 to fly to England to record our first album. 2172 01:42:10,413 --> 01:42:13,079 And you all make it possible, right! 2173 01:42:17,146 --> 01:42:19,813 Making "Under The Blade" for Secret Records in the UK. 2174 01:42:20,113 --> 01:42:23,379 We recorded it on a farm down in the south of England 2175 01:42:23,446 --> 01:42:25,413 in a small town called Battle. 2176 01:42:25,513 --> 01:42:28,179 We stayed in a 16th century hotel 2177 01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:33,379 It's haunted and recorded most of the albums are stored in 2178 01:42:33,446 --> 01:42:37,714 Our baffle to keep the sound in. is straw bales. 2179 01:42:37,814 --> 01:42:40,080 Good? Chickens running around 2180 01:42:40,147 --> 01:42:44,147 They say that when I play my bass for that album, 2181 01:42:44,214 --> 01:42:47,780 most eggs and cows 2182 01:42:48,047 --> 01:42:49,647 giving the most milk they have ever done. 2183 01:42:49,714 --> 01:42:51,647 Very nice just go 2184 01:42:51,714 --> 01:42:54,047 Sometimes when you go and recording, 2185 01:42:54,114 --> 01:42:56,247 that's all you do there. 2186 01:42:56,314 --> 01:42:57,747 So there is no interference, 2187 01:42:57,814 --> 01:42:59,747 You know, you can't take calls from home like, 2188 01:42:59,814 --> 01:43:02,180 "Look, the faucet breaks you can come out and -" 2189 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,215 Deal with it! 2190 01:43:04,281 --> 01:43:06,515 You know, deal with it. Like, "Oh my brother hit me!" 2191 01:43:06,581 --> 01:43:09,515 You know like... I... You know, is like, 2192 01:43:09,581 --> 01:43:10,515 "I can't, I'm in England." 2193 01:43:15,715 --> 01:43:18,748 Motorhead is being headlining a festival in Wales, 2194 01:43:18,815 --> 01:43:20,481 Wrexham Festival. 2195 01:43:20,581 --> 01:43:23,481 And we go down, "From USA Twisted Sister." 2196 01:43:23,548 --> 01:43:26,315 And that's our first show east of the Hamptons. 2197 01:43:26,381 --> 01:43:30,448 And we keep going, I don't know, maybe around noon? 2198 01:43:30,548 --> 01:43:35,116 Besides that, make up bands are really unpopular. 2199 01:43:35,182 --> 01:43:40,382 There is not only resistance, But there is hatred for the glam band. 2200 01:43:40,449 --> 01:43:42,716 And here's Twisted Sister-- full makeup 2201 01:43:42,782 --> 01:43:45,416 KISS has taken their makeup, Your thoughts, at this time. 2202 01:43:45,482 --> 01:43:48,482 This - no-- no Motley Crue. 2203 01:43:48,549 --> 01:43:54,716 This is a Twisted Sister that carries torches for glitter rock... 2204 01:43:54,782 --> 01:43:58,782 happened before Motorhead, one of the most disgusting, 2205 01:43:59,082 --> 01:44:00,650 the ugliest band In the world, 2206 01:44:00,750 --> 01:44:02,250 the joke will happen that you would rather have 2207 01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:05,183 sex with people in their crowd rather than girls - 2208 01:44:05,283 --> 01:44:07,117 They are much more beautiful. 2209 01:44:07,183 --> 01:44:08,450 And that doesn't mean they're beautiful 2210 01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:10,250 And they are tough. 2211 01:44:10,317 --> 01:44:11,750 And they are angry. 2212 01:44:12,050 --> 01:44:16,083 Uh, and we're not so sure how it will go all suddenly. 2213 01:44:16,183 --> 01:44:18,283 This band is scared - and... 2214 01:44:18,350 --> 01:44:22,350 to the point where is a discussion 2215 01:44:22,450 --> 01:44:23,750 2216 01:44:23,817 --> 01:44:27,583 on taking make-up and costumes off. 2217 01:44:27,650 --> 01:44:31,218 And, uh, what people want to go on clothes. 2218 01:44:31,284 --> 01:44:34,684 And I said "I didn't do this. 2219 01:44:34,784 --> 01:44:36,518 We have used this make-up and costume 2220 01:44:36,584 --> 01:44:39,184 for seven years now, six and a half years?" 2221 01:44:39,284 --> 01:44:42,384 I said, "We go through - I have fought for this, we have... 2222 01:44:42,451 --> 01:44:45,751 I am as scared as anyone else but I don't-- 2223 01:44:46,051 --> 01:44:48,451 I didn't come this far to retreat." 2224 01:44:49,251 --> 01:44:52,218 I always joke that Lemmy knows the smell of human waste. 2225 01:44:52,318 --> 01:44:54,351 When he passes our dressing room door 2226 01:44:54,418 --> 01:44:57,684 He smells people throw in their pants 2227 01:44:57,751 --> 01:45:00,752 And he entered and said, "I will invite you." 2228 01:45:01,052 --> 01:45:02,119 Nobody knows who we are. 2229 01:45:02,219 --> 01:45:03,652 And all of a sudden we are on stage 2230 01:45:03,719 --> 01:45:05,252 and it feels like "Night Of The Living Dead." 2231 01:45:05,319 --> 01:45:08,719 I mean, people who are sitting wake up, and they see, 2232 01:45:08,785 --> 01:45:11,319 and they walk towards us like... 2233 01:45:11,419 --> 01:45:12,519 I swear you can see 2234 01:45:12,585 --> 01:45:14,685 bottle of people back like this, 2235 01:45:14,785 --> 01:45:16,552 they are ready to start throwing away dirt, 2236 01:45:16,619 --> 01:45:19,485 and Lemmy steps out and says - 2237 01:45:23,319 --> 01:45:25,185 I translate, because you can't understand Lemmy, 2238 01:45:25,252 --> 01:45:27,252 but "These are some of my friends , 2239 01:45:27,352 --> 01:45:30,153 give them listening From America, give them a listen. " 2240 01:45:30,220 --> 01:45:32,486 And that only gives us sufficient space 2241 01:45:32,553 --> 01:45:36,253 to go there and do what we do. 2242 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,320 And we just rip it. of big ovations... 2243 01:45:40,453 --> 01:45:41,820 my life. offstage, 2244 01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,786 someone says "Listen." 2245 01:45:45,053 --> 01:45:46,386 And you can hear the crowd 2246 01:45:46,453 --> 01:45:48,120 still singing, "Twisted... Sister... 2247 01:45:48,186 --> 01:45:49,720 2248 01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:51,453 2249 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,353 2250 01:45:54,453 --> 01:45:56,320 2251 01:45:56,420 --> 01:45:58,421 2252 01:45:58,487 --> 01:46:02,754 2253 01:46:02,821 --> 01:46:06,254 Twisted... Sister... 2254 01:46:06,354 --> 01:46:07,121 Twisted... " 2255 01:46:07,154 --> 01:46:08,821 I gave up on the idea wanted to become a rockstar 2256 01:46:08,821 --> 01:46:11,254 around the time I heard notes Van Halen first, 2257 01:46:11,354 --> 01:46:14,754 and decided I needed to change the side of the table. 2258 01:46:14,821 --> 01:46:17,821 So I thought I needed to find a band 2259 01:46:18,121 --> 01:46:21,187 So I found Zebra through extraordinary strings 2260 01:46:21,287 --> 01:46:23,587 synchronicity and all sorts of other things. 2261 01:46:23,687 --> 01:46:25,722 And Randy Jackson, who is the singer of Zebra, 2262 01:46:25,788 --> 01:46:27,122 says to me one day he left, 2263 01:46:27,188 --> 01:46:29,288 "Flom, you must see Twisted Sister. " 2264 01:46:29,355 --> 01:46:31,155 He said," They are the best live band in the world 2265 01:46:31,222 --> 01:46:34,622 We can't touch them, no one can. " 2266 01:46:34,688 --> 01:46:36,522 So I said, " Okay, I want to see them. " 2267 01:46:36,622 --> 01:46:38,522 He said," Let's open for them on Wednesday, 2268 01:46:38,622 --> 01:46:41,255 in Mid-Hudson Civic Center in Poughkeepsie. " 2269 01:46:41,355 --> 01:46:44,588 Civic Mid-Hudson Center holds 3,000 people. the big 2270 01:46:44,655 --> 01:46:46,455 So I drove there on Wednesday 2271 01:46:46,522 --> 01:46:48,288 Zebra playing, polite applause 2272 01:46:48,388 --> 01:46:50,322 And when Twisted Sister took the stage, 2273 01:46:50,422 --> 01:46:53,655 2274 01:46:53,722 --> 01:46:56,623 2275 01:46:56,689 --> 01:46:59,189 2276 01:46:59,256 --> 01:47:01,123 These 3,000 people are erupting. 2277 01:47:04,423 --> 01:47:05,589 And Dee got up on the stage and he said, 2278 01:47:05,656 --> 01:47:09,223 "Okay, you're New York bastard!" 2279 01:47:09,323 --> 01:47:12,089 He said, "We just returned from England with a bloody bloody 2280 01:47:12,189 --> 01:47:13,756 and we are sick and damn are tired of hearing that lime 2281 01:47:13,823 --> 01:47:15,656 telling us how good we are!" 2282 01:47:15,756 --> 01:47:18,789 He said, "How are you New York? bastards say?" 2283 01:47:19,089 --> 01:47:23,557 And all 3,000 children go, "Twisted Fucking Sister!" 2284 01:47:23,657 --> 01:47:26,724 And I'm like, that's it. I am finished. I don't care That's it. This is religion. 2285 01:47:26,824 --> 01:47:30,390 And that is. 2286 01:47:30,457 --> 01:47:31,824 2287 01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:36,057 And they play and I'm just out of my mind, 2288 01:47:36,057 --> 01:47:37,590 I can't wait to get it to the office the next day 2289 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:39,190 to tell everyone what I saw 2290 01:47:40,157 --> 01:47:41,557 That reaction, "You need to sleep." 2291 01:47:41,624 --> 01:47:44,324 And uh, I do, but... 2292 01:47:44,390 --> 01:47:47,090 "This band is a joke and everyone 2293 01:47:47,190 --> 01:47:49,324 in the Industry knows about them. They are idiots. 2294 01:47:49,390 --> 01:47:52,458 They are dressed in women's clothing and it's nothing . " 2295 01:47:52,525 --> 01:47:54,525 And my mind, should go see them again tonight 2296 01:47:54,591 --> 01:47:58,491 at the Fountain Casino in New Jersey, 2297 01:47:58,558 --> 01:48:00,291 2298 01:48:00,391 --> 01:48:02,691 which is almost two hours in the other direction 2299 01:48:02,758 --> 01:48:07,091 So sleep deprivation and may be quite chaotic, 2300 01:48:07,191 --> 01:48:08,625 I wound at the Fountain Casino. 2301 01:48:08,725 --> 01:48:10,191 And that is the same. 2302 01:48:10,258 --> 01:48:12,791 And I just left, this is as real as that! 2303 01:48:13,091 --> 01:48:15,625 Children give me a road map 2304 01:48:15,691 --> 01:48:17,391 I still love him, 2305 01:48:17,491 --> 01:48:19,625 I like their music, but I don't care if I like it 2306 01:48:19,691 --> 01:48:21,692 because I see joy with children 2307 01:48:21,792 --> 01:48:24,492 And I leave, I can market this. This works 2308 01:48:24,559 --> 01:48:26,559 There is no question about that. 2309 01:48:26,659 --> 01:48:29,426 So again I went to the office 2310 01:48:29,526 --> 01:48:32,059 to be encountered the same response 2311 01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:33,792 And warm will be too good from a word 2312 01:48:34,059 --> 01:48:36,192 The answer is, "Go from here! 2313 01:48:36,292 --> 01:48:38,592 We didn't sign it. Damn it!" 2314 01:48:41,326 --> 01:48:42,459 So that is part of the idea 2315 01:48:42,526 --> 01:48:45,292 to get them in front of from as many people as possible. 2316 01:48:45,359 --> 01:48:48,226 We managed to get it at Reading Festival, 2317 01:48:48,326 --> 01:48:52,460 which is a big show for rock bands in those days, 2318 01:48:52,527 --> 01:48:55,527 I mean you have 70 or 80,000 people in one hit Welcome to our event! 2319 01:49:00,260 --> 01:49:02,393 Legend reads it for fans throwing. 2320 01:49:02,460 --> 01:49:08,593 People will throw items in the band. 2321 01:49:08,693 --> 01:49:10,627 2322 01:49:10,693 --> 01:49:13,393 This one is called "Shoot 'Em Down!" 2323 01:49:13,460 --> 01:49:15,693 There are 40,000 people in Reading 2324 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,460 There are 10,000 people that likes you 2325 01:49:17,527 --> 01:49:18,693 and 30,000 who don't. 2326 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,094 So each band continues 2327 01:49:20,194 --> 01:49:22,694 has 10,000 and 30,000 of them are not 2328 01:49:22,761 --> 01:49:24,294 And they all bear fruit. 2329 01:49:25,828 --> 01:49:27,461 You know that peaches and pears 2330 01:49:27,528 --> 01:49:32,394 and apples and bananas and Kotex and bottles of pee! 2331 01:49:32,494 --> 01:49:34,794 I mean, not a small bottle, big fucking bottle! 2332 01:49:35,094 --> 01:49:36,494 And quite a stamp, 2333 01:49:36,561 --> 01:49:40,328 it ends late until it hits something, and bang! 2334 01:49:40,428 --> 01:49:45,761 There is only a wave of goods coming again Dan Dee says, 2335 01:49:46,061 --> 01:49:48,228 "Wow, stop, stop!" 2336 01:49:48,328 --> 01:49:50,129 Walk forward and say... 2337 01:49:50,195 --> 01:49:57,095 There are some cowards throwing things at us. 2338 01:49:57,195 --> 01:49:58,095 Pussies. 2339 01:49:58,195 --> 01:50:00,429 I am very angry at the things thrown. 2340 01:50:00,495 --> 01:50:04,062 I'm angry. I am very serious and I say. 2341 01:50:04,129 --> 01:50:08,195 Everyone who wants to throw something on Twisted Sister, 2342 01:50:08,262 --> 01:50:12,429 after the show, meet us back there - all of you, 2343 01:50:12,529 --> 01:50:17,496 I don't care - and you can do it Tell us that we suck our faces. 2344 01:50:17,563 --> 01:50:20,130 You can try throwing something on my face 2345 01:50:20,196 --> 01:50:21,596 But don't be a coward. 2346 01:50:21,696 --> 01:50:23,296 Don't throw something and hit people 2347 01:50:23,363 --> 01:50:25,163 Here in front, okay? 2348 01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:26,530 Just come! 2349 01:50:26,630 --> 01:50:28,730 We are ready! Are you ready?! 2350 01:50:30,630 --> 01:50:32,563 And it really changes in outline. 2351 01:50:32,630 --> 01:50:35,330 No one throws the , people cheer. 2352 01:50:35,396 --> 01:50:37,263 And they end steal the entire show 2353 01:50:41,763 --> 01:50:43,263 I go sideways from the stage 2354 01:50:43,330 --> 01:50:46,464 to see if there are people - just in case anyone wants to fight me 2355 01:50:46,564 --> 01:50:48,164 So I go and nothing. 2356 01:50:48,231 --> 01:50:50,097 Only fans, "We are with you, Dee!" 2357 01:50:50,164 --> 01:50:53,331 All are ready for dust-up but nothing-- 2358 01:50:53,397 --> 01:50:55,197 there is no-- no taker 2359 01:50:55,297 --> 01:50:56,831 We have won that day. 2360 01:50:58,764 --> 01:51:00,564 So we sit back there and just admire 2361 01:51:00,631 --> 01:51:02,764 about the number of items that are thrown into the band. 2362 01:51:03,064 --> 01:51:04,764 We never experienced it before 2363 01:51:04,831 --> 01:51:08,097 We have this great Scottish man work for us and he goes like, 2364 01:51:08,197 --> 01:51:10,131 I don't believe anyone throws a shite! 2365 01:51:10,231 --> 01:51:12,431 And we go like-- What do you say? 2366 01:51:12,531 --> 01:51:14,597 I can't believe that someone threw a shite! 2367 01:51:14,664 --> 01:51:16,232 "Shite?" 2368 01:51:16,298 --> 01:51:20,565 He goes, "Damn! Someone throws dirt on the stage!" 2369 01:51:20,632 --> 01:51:22,565 As hate filled like me, 2370 01:51:22,632 --> 01:51:25,465 Can I take it? human waste and throw it away? 2371 01:51:25,565 --> 01:51:27,498 Then, where can ? 2372 01:51:27,598 --> 01:51:29,598 Has anyone succeeded? Is this yours? 2373 01:51:29,665 --> 01:51:31,665 What is that-- do you save it for later? 2374 01:51:31,732 --> 01:51:33,665 Do you buy it at-- is there a shite stand, 2375 01:51:33,765 --> 01:51:35,265 You know, or are you standing up bad? 2376 01:51:35,365 --> 01:51:38,398 Can I have some crap I can throw in the band? 2377 01:51:38,498 --> 01:51:41,265 Hot steam please, with some chili on it. 2378 01:51:41,365 --> 01:51:44,198 I'm just trying to imagine - what-- 2379 01:51:44,265 --> 01:51:47,599 how this arrived at the point to where it was actually on stage. 2380 01:51:47,666 --> 01:51:49,833 But yes, someone throws human waste in the band. 2381 01:51:50,133 --> 01:51:53,166 That - that - you really Must hate a band to do that. 2382 01:51:57,166 --> 01:51:59,766 When we come back, is a victory again, 2383 01:52:00,066 --> 01:52:02,099 and, uh, playing for me I think it's a few months 2384 01:52:02,199 --> 01:52:03,499 when we should return 2385 01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:09,599 and release the recording there and do a mini tour. 2386 01:52:09,666 --> 01:52:12,266 We plan to bring them to do another great tour 2387 01:52:12,366 --> 01:52:16,600 and really stuck in with lots of consecutive dates 2388 01:52:16,667 --> 01:52:20,834 it will happen to a large audience, and... 2389 01:52:21,134 --> 01:52:24,200 We just made an agreement with Virgin 2390 01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:26,667 so that the distribution will be great 2391 01:52:26,734 --> 01:52:27,700 We got big progress. 2392 01:52:27,767 --> 01:52:30,467 So there is a lot of money in the bank ready to do everything. 2393 01:52:30,567 --> 01:52:32,767 Basically we go home, and we take more ads. 2394 01:52:33,067 --> 01:52:34,267 Twisted Sister Big Tour from Europe 2395 01:52:34,334 --> 01:52:35,400 Thank you very much. Goodbye, New York. 2396 01:52:35,467 --> 01:52:37,100 This is very good, blah blah blah. 2397 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,500 And we say, "Goodbye, Long Island. Goodbye, New Jersey. 2398 01:52:40,567 --> 01:52:42,635 Thank you for the amazing 10 years. 2399 01:52:42,735 --> 01:52:44,368 We go to see the wizard. Thank you good night. 2400 01:52:44,435 --> 01:52:45,768 Because it's him! 2401 01:52:45,835 --> 01:52:48,335 We go 2402 01:52:48,401 --> 01:52:49,635 We go to England. 2403 01:52:49,701 --> 01:52:51,401 And when you send us go to wild blue there, 2404 01:52:51,468 --> 01:52:53,701 2405 01:52:53,801 --> 01:52:56,301 2406 01:52:56,401 --> 01:52:59,735 tell us how you feel about rock 'n' roll. 2407 01:53:01,501 --> 01:53:02,635 Now get ready! 2408 01:53:04,335 --> 01:53:05,501 Are you ready? 2409 01:53:07,101 --> 01:53:09,101 Are you ready ?! 2410 01:53:09,201 --> 01:53:10,801 When we release recordings 2411 01:53:11,068 --> 01:53:12,569 it's straight into the national chart 2412 01:53:12,636 --> 01:53:14,469 That is the first top 75 weeks. 2413 01:53:14,536 --> 01:53:18,669 And to do that outside the box, it's not easy And especially for metal notes at that time. 2414 01:53:18,769 --> 01:53:22,136 Get ready to go for Europe, September '82. 2415 01:53:22,236 --> 01:53:26,269 And my lawyer calls me. 2416 01:53:26,336 --> 01:53:28,069 "Are you sitting?" 2417 01:53:28,136 --> 01:53:29,202 "Yes." 2418 01:53:29,269 --> 01:53:31,569 "Secret Records go bankrupt." 2419 01:53:31,636 --> 01:53:33,569 "You're kidding." 2420 01:53:33,636 --> 01:53:34,769 "No. The album came out 2421 01:53:34,836 --> 01:53:36,202 2422 01:53:36,302 --> 01:53:38,102 and the label goes bankrupt the next day. " 2423 01:53:38,169 --> 01:53:40,437 It just disappeared overnight. 2424 01:53:40,503 --> 01:53:43,303 My partner disappears with money, 2425 01:53:43,370 --> 01:53:45,537 and goes with it my company. 2426 01:53:45,603 --> 01:53:49,070 And I'm left together - uh, 2427 01:53:49,137 --> 01:53:53,503 less than anything and, uh, The band was left without a tour. 2428 01:53:54,770 --> 01:53:57,803 So we can't play 2429 01:53:58,070 --> 01:54:00,237 because we now tell everyone that we are on tour. 2430 01:54:00,303 --> 01:54:01,803 So we can't play. 2431 01:54:02,103 --> 01:54:05,370 So we don't. We hide in our place home for, like, two months. 2432 01:54:05,437 --> 01:54:08,670 It is a long, cold winter. 2433 01:54:10,504 --> 01:54:13,071 Somewhere around 50th time 2434 01:54:13,138 --> 01:54:15,338 I was told to shut up about Twisted Sister. 2435 01:54:15,438 --> 01:54:17,804 I was called to the office from the president 2436 01:54:18,071 --> 01:54:20,204 from Atlantic Records, Doug Morris. 2437 01:54:20,271 --> 01:54:23,271 I was told that if I ever mentioned 2438 01:54:23,371 --> 01:54:25,338 Twisted Sister name again, 2439 01:54:25,404 --> 01:54:27,671 I was fired from my job. 2440 01:54:27,771 --> 01:54:31,438 So this is a problem. 2441 01:54:31,538 --> 01:54:34,804 And the solution I found is-- 2442 01:54:35,071 --> 01:54:39,272 One day I saw a man named Phil Carson in the office. 2443 01:54:39,339 --> 01:54:42,239 I don't know him, but I know he is a very important person 2444 01:54:42,305 --> 01:54:46,605 And, uh, he's from England, from our English company. 2445 01:54:46,705 --> 01:54:49,205 And I think maybe he will help me 2446 01:54:49,305 --> 01:54:54,272 So I contacted him in the hallway. 2447 01:54:54,372 --> 01:54:56,339 And I have a cassette made. 2448 01:54:56,405 --> 01:54:58,839 And I have a lot of from sheets of handwritten paper, 2449 01:54:59,105 --> 01:55:00,305 Because I don't know how to type . 2450 01:55:00,372 --> 01:55:03,272 And I said, "Phil, you don't know my , you have to help me, man. 2451 01:55:05,472 --> 01:55:07,740 You have to sign these people." 2452 01:55:07,806 --> 01:55:10,140 And he handed me this manilla envelope 2453 01:55:10,206 --> 01:55:12,673 and I put it in my bag. 2454 01:55:12,740 --> 01:55:15,806 And I went to get in my first class seat 2455 01:55:16,073 --> 01:55:19,106 and sip my first class champagne. 2456 01:55:19,206 --> 01:55:21,406 And after the flight takes off I think, 2457 01:55:21,473 --> 01:55:23,840 "Oh, I'll listen to it for a small Jason recording." 2458 01:55:24,106 --> 01:55:28,440 And the first thing I pull out is this handwritten memo 2459 01:55:28,506 --> 01:55:30,106 from Jason to me, 2460 01:55:30,206 --> 01:55:33,740 and that must happen 12 paper pages stenographer 2461 01:55:33,806 --> 01:55:35,406 with very small writing. 2462 01:55:35,473 --> 01:55:38,774 And I see it, and it turns out that won't wade through this. 2463 01:55:38,841 --> 01:55:43,341 Then I pulled out the photo from this band he owned. 2464 01:55:43,407 --> 01:55:46,507 And they dress this group in women's clothes! 2465 01:55:46,574 --> 01:55:48,607 Oh God, do you know ?! 2466 01:55:48,707 --> 01:55:51,674 So I put everything in a sick garbage bag 2467 01:55:51,741 --> 01:55:54,074 and never listen to the tape and throw it away 2468 01:55:59,507 --> 01:56:01,441 There is no place left to go. 2469 01:56:01,507 --> 01:56:04,641 At this point, after taking it so far for 10 years, 2470 01:56:04,741 --> 01:56:06,208 it has reached the end. 2471 01:56:06,275 --> 01:56:09,808 We have run out of our markets in America. 2472 01:56:10,108 --> 01:56:14,142 We have created all of this hype in the UK. 2473 01:56:14,208 --> 01:56:17,442 that we will not do it can cash in 2474 01:56:17,508 --> 01:56:18,642 and damage our reputation there. 2475 01:56:18,708 --> 01:56:22,708 We will blow us reputation on two continents 2476 01:56:22,808 --> 01:56:24,575 And we sit there freaking out, 2477 01:56:24,675 --> 01:56:27,075 "What will we do? What will we do?" 2478 01:56:27,175 --> 01:56:28,642 And our manager said, "Do you know what? 2479 01:56:28,742 --> 01:56:30,208 You laid this foundation in England. 2480 01:56:30,208 --> 01:56:32,175 You have this recording contract The secret was unsuccessful. 2481 01:56:32,175 --> 01:56:33,542 Maybe we can something in the UK. " 2482 01:56:33,642 --> 01:56:37,509 Somehow the label, before they go up, 2483 01:56:37,609 --> 01:56:40,576 has succeeded for the appearance finagle for us 2484 01:56:40,643 --> 01:56:43,276 on the live television program is called" Tube. " 2485 01:56:43,376 --> 01:56:46,709 I don't remember its existence a big discussion 2486 01:56:46,809 --> 01:56:51,309 other than the unique chance, 2487 01:56:51,409 --> 01:56:56,576 and we hope to use it to arouse interest to encourage us, 2488 01:56:56,676 --> 01:57:02,309 You know, to get a new deal, or something, you know 2489 01:57:02,376 --> 01:57:03,610 We don't have one another. 2490 01:57:03,677 --> 01:57:06,144 We are stuck here. We have to go there. 2491 01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:09,310 This is really - it's the only that makes sense. 2492 01:57:09,377 --> 01:57:10,810 But how do we do it? 2493 01:57:11,110 --> 01:57:12,210 We need money. 2494 01:57:12,277 --> 01:57:16,610 So we go to friends and family, as much as we can, 2495 01:57:16,677 --> 01:57:18,777 and get a small amount, but it's not close enough. 2496 01:57:18,844 --> 01:57:22,077 So Jay Jay and I go to - I believe that - 2497 01:57:22,144 --> 01:57:24,277 the three clubs we have are very good relations with 2498 01:57:24,344 --> 01:57:27,444 Difficult people, tough people. 2499 01:57:27,544 --> 01:57:30,310 Some of them are people I think have lent money, cash before. 2500 01:57:30,410 --> 01:57:33,178 But not under this requirement. 2501 01:57:33,245 --> 01:57:34,845 Below "listen we will give it back to you 2502 01:57:35,111 --> 01:57:37,211 "If everything goes well. Otherwise, we will only-- 2503 01:57:37,278 --> 01:57:38,611 we will play a few dates for you for free." 2504 01:57:38,711 --> 01:57:40,078 You know, we are friends with them 2505 01:57:40,145 --> 01:57:41,778 You know after a while you're dealing 2506 01:57:41,845 --> 01:57:43,778 with someone to, you know, a few years - 2507 01:57:44,078 --> 01:57:44,845 we are friends with them 2508 01:57:45,111 --> 01:57:46,345 They ask us to give them some money 2509 01:57:46,411 --> 01:57:49,445 to bring it and, uh, we helped them out. 2510 01:57:49,545 --> 01:57:52,445 We fly alone like in a cattle car. 2511 01:57:52,545 --> 01:57:54,711 That's not even a coach. 2512 01:57:54,811 --> 01:57:56,245 There is first class, 2513 01:57:56,311 --> 01:57:59,411 business class, coach, and then where you put the dog 2514 01:57:59,478 --> 01:58:00,245 That's where we are. 2515 01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:11,479 A week before Christmas we finally arrived in England 2516 01:58:11,579 --> 01:58:15,379 to do "Tube" on live English television. 2517 01:58:15,446 --> 01:58:18,246 Alright, hello and good night to "Tube." 2518 01:58:18,312 --> 01:58:20,446 Tonight we go to have a number of bands 2519 01:58:20,512 --> 01:58:22,212 who is guaranteed makes your ears bleed. 2520 01:58:23,346 --> 01:58:27,579 Here we are, Harimau Pantang, and Iggy Pop. 2521 01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:30,613 The only problem is it a live broadcast 2522 01:58:30,713 --> 01:58:32,747 So as we don't have it is enough to worry. 2523 01:58:32,847 --> 01:58:35,147 We only have 20 minutes to get our point on, 2524 01:58:35,213 --> 01:58:37,247 and talk about getting We mean, 2525 01:58:37,313 --> 01:58:39,613 Oh by the way, You can't curse. 2526 01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,613 So this is half vocabulary Dee. 2527 01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,213 Get out of the door 2528 01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:44,747 But what's the problem? 2529 01:58:44,813 --> 01:58:47,213 That is only the most The important performances we have 2530 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,347 or will never play in the life of the band. 2531 01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,680 They look like women, they play like men, 2532 01:58:54,780 --> 01:58:57,547 and they are the biggest a group of hellraisers 2533 01:58:57,613 --> 01:58:58,747 to get out of America! 2534 01:58:58,813 --> 01:59:00,714 This is Twisted Sister! 2535 01:59:03,448 --> 01:59:05,314 Good night! 2536 01:59:07,848 --> 01:59:09,748 Welcome to our event! 2537 01:59:09,848 --> 01:59:12,348 I was in the studio all day 2538 01:59:12,448 --> 01:59:16,148 and holding concerts sold in America. 2539 01:59:16,214 --> 01:59:17,748 And I made my call, 2540 01:59:17,848 --> 01:59:22,381 and Phil Carson from Atlantic Records are there. 2541 01:59:22,481 --> 01:59:25,514 And he's in the next office doing the same thing 2542 01:59:25,614 --> 01:59:27,348 So I asked what he did, and he said, 2543 01:59:27,414 --> 01:59:29,382 "I manage this group called Twisted Sister," 2544 01:59:29,449 --> 01:59:30,715 I have never heard of. 2545 01:59:30,815 --> 01:59:34,215 And I see all these people move back and forth 2546 01:59:34,282 --> 01:59:36,715 which is seven feet tall and I think, 2547 01:59:36,815 --> 01:59:37,849 "Who are they?" 2548 01:59:38,115 --> 01:59:41,582 And then I realized, of course, that they were Twisted Sisters. 2549 01:59:41,682 --> 01:59:46,715 Which, you know, doesn't lure them to me, 2550 01:59:46,782 --> 01:59:49,249 I am quite serious about my rock 'n' roll. 2551 01:59:52,082 --> 01:59:55,715 ♪ What you don't know sure can hurt you ♪ 2552 01:59:55,782 --> 01:59:59,650 ♪ What you can't see makes you scream ♪ 2553 01:59:59,750 --> 02:00:03,816 ♪ What you don't know sure can hurt you ♪ 2554 02:00:04,083 --> 02:00:09,083 ♪ What you don't have is what You dream, what you dream of ♪ 2555 02:00:09,150 --> 02:00:11,283 ♪ Dreams, dreams, dreams... ♪ 2556 02:00:34,117 --> 02:00:36,684 Mark told me that they have the following is good in America and will I come and see them? 2557 02:00:36,784 --> 02:00:38,551 Good night! 2558 02:00:38,651 --> 02:00:41,517 2559 02:00:41,584 --> 02:00:43,851 Welcome to "The Tube" on Channel 4! 2560 02:00:44,117 --> 02:00:49,251 We are Twisted Sister! 2561 02:00:49,317 --> 02:00:52,151 I go down and see a little set. 2562 02:00:52,217 --> 02:00:53,751 And I think, "Ah, they're not half bad." 2563 02:00:54,284 --> 02:00:55,818 Get your hands... 2564 02:01:09,685 --> 02:01:11,285 In the studio 2565 02:01:11,352 --> 02:01:14,318 there must be some heavy metal fans there, 2566 02:01:14,418 --> 02:01:17,185 which is very reactive and very responsive to the band. 2567 02:01:17,252 --> 02:01:21,485 But most rooms do not respond to 2568 02:01:21,585 --> 02:01:24,118 And we have three songs. 2569 02:01:24,186 --> 02:01:27,153 And I have to reach the audience. 2570 02:01:27,219 --> 02:01:29,419 We get the entire front go here 2571 02:01:29,486 --> 02:01:33,086 But I think the back is 2572 02:01:33,153 --> 02:01:34,853 and part of the balcony must be on Quaaludes or something, 2573 02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:38,219 because they all stand Will happen, "Uh..." 2574 02:01:38,286 --> 02:01:44,586 Again, Twisted Sister always has That attitude, you know, 2575 02:01:44,686 --> 02:01:45,819 we don't fight fair 2576 02:01:46,086 --> 02:01:47,519 I don't think is good enough 2577 02:01:47,586 --> 02:01:50,153 And I think the problem is here do we need help 2578 02:01:50,253 --> 02:01:52,219 We have to bring out artillery, you understand? 2579 02:01:52,319 --> 02:01:55,287 And we called Lemmy, who is our friend now and ask if he will come come out and play with us 2580 02:01:55,354 --> 02:01:57,187 And he and Brian Robinson come out. 2581 02:01:57,287 --> 02:01:59,254 Yes! This is Robbo! 2582 02:01:59,354 --> 02:02:00,754 2583 02:02:00,854 --> 02:02:02,487 Lemmy and Robbo from Motorhead! 2584 02:02:02,487 --> 02:02:03,420 Can we hear it for them ?! 2585 02:02:03,420 --> 02:02:05,087 Come on now. Let's hear for them. 2586 02:02:06,220 --> 02:02:08,220 Ready let's go, come on! 2587 02:02:16,087 --> 02:02:17,420 Alright okay 2588 02:02:26,855 --> 02:02:28,588 Come on let's listen now! 2589 02:02:28,688 --> 02:02:31,188 The audience is not react well. 2590 02:02:31,288 --> 02:02:33,088 Everyone doesn't get into it, 2591 02:02:33,188 --> 02:02:35,488 and if this audience, in the room, 2592 02:02:35,555 --> 02:02:37,221 get the full effect from Twisted Sister 2593 02:02:37,321 --> 02:02:39,721 not responding, what people will 2594 02:02:39,788 --> 02:02:41,655 sit in their comfortable chair at home-- 2595 02:02:41,721 --> 02:02:42,788 What are their reactions? 2596 02:02:42,855 --> 02:02:47,255 We got Twisted Sister away from America. 2597 02:02:47,321 --> 02:02:50,521 We have Motorhead. 2598 02:02:50,588 --> 02:02:52,489 But it seems that still is a problem 2599 02:02:52,556 --> 02:02:54,789 We still lose people in the audience. 2600 02:02:54,856 --> 02:02:58,156 And that's where I speak, again don't fight fair 2601 02:02:58,222 --> 02:03:00,556 You can do something where You can talk to an audience 2602 02:03:00,622 --> 02:03:01,856 and communicate your feelings 2603 02:03:01,856 --> 02:03:03,322 But I think you people want something else 2604 02:03:03,322 --> 02:03:04,856 before you give us what we need. 2605 02:03:05,122 --> 02:03:07,089 I think you have a little hang-up, some of you people. 2606 02:03:07,156 --> 02:03:08,789 I think there are some people out there 2607 02:03:09,089 --> 02:03:12,322 who can't take Twisted Sister, Because of the way we see. 2608 02:03:12,389 --> 02:03:14,722 That's the problem, isn't it now 2609 02:03:14,789 --> 02:03:16,089 And you won't do it listen to us, 2610 02:03:16,089 --> 02:03:17,656 You won't pay attention to us out there, now will you? 2611 02:03:17,656 --> 02:03:19,456 No, you won't pay attention. 2612 02:03:19,522 --> 02:03:22,323 Because we have make up, that seems to be a problem. 2613 02:03:22,423 --> 02:03:24,557 So we have to take the results up off, right now right? 2614 02:03:24,657 --> 02:03:26,290 I told my roadie, 2615 02:03:26,357 --> 02:03:30,657 I said, "Take my can the makeup and towel remover, 2616 02:03:30,723 --> 02:03:35,123 and have it on the side from the stage, if I call him." 2617 02:03:35,190 --> 02:03:38,723 I did not talk to the band About this, I did not discuss it. 2618 02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:42,223 I just - behind my mind, have an idea 2619 02:03:42,290 --> 02:03:43,457 Give me the item. 2620 02:04:00,191 --> 02:04:02,258 Is that the problem, man? I make too much, man? 2621 02:04:02,324 --> 02:04:03,324 You can't take me seriously I'm not crazy enough for you? 2622 02:04:03,424 --> 02:04:04,358 Now I don't have there is no make up, 2623 02:04:04,358 --> 02:04:05,724 So what will you do now? 2624 02:04:05,724 --> 02:04:07,124 Now you have to give yourself to me, okay 2625 02:04:07,124 --> 02:04:08,458 Don't let me be disappointed, 2626 02:04:08,558 --> 02:04:09,558 I did something for you It's Christmas time. 2627 02:04:09,624 --> 02:04:11,524 Give Twisted Sister what they want! 2628 02:04:11,591 --> 02:04:13,324 And the place is crazy. 2629 02:04:13,391 --> 02:04:15,658 Aah! 2630 02:04:15,758 --> 02:04:17,491 Come on! 2631 02:04:31,092 --> 02:04:32,625 2632 02:04:43,259 --> 02:04:45,292 Thank you! 2633 02:04:45,359 --> 02:04:47,393 Robbo Robinson! 2634 02:04:47,493 --> 02:04:50,493 - And Lemmy! - Twisted Sister - alright! 2635 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:55,526 So they destroyed the audience and it was an amazing show. 2636 02:04:55,593 --> 02:04:59,426 So I turned to Mark. And I said, "Okay, I'll sign it." 2637 02:04:59,526 --> 02:05:02,126 And he looked at me and said, "To the Atlantic?" 2638 02:05:02,193 --> 02:05:03,693 And I said, "Well where I work, you know 2639 02:05:03,793 --> 02:05:05,460 I will sign them to the Atlantic. 2640 02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:06,626 He doesn't say a word. 2641 02:05:06,693 --> 02:05:08,593 Then he says," Okay come back and meet the band . " 2642 02:05:08,693 --> 02:05:09,793 I say," Not at all. " 2643 02:05:09,860 --> 02:05:12,860 Who wants to meet that? "I said I would sign it." 2644 02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:14,693 He said, "They will never go Believe me!" 2645 02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:16,261 And he left, "Atlantic Records." 2646 02:05:16,327 --> 02:05:18,827 And I think, "There are thousand record labels! 2647 02:05:19,094 --> 02:05:22,694 One label where the quote is From the president of the record company, 2648 02:05:22,761 --> 02:05:25,827 " The next person who mentions this band! '" 2649 02:05:26,094 --> 02:05:28,394 I don't want to say anything because - but I-- 2650 02:05:28,494 --> 02:05:29,661 He walks out. 2651 02:05:29,761 --> 02:05:31,327 " We are messed up, we will not be signed! " 2652 02:05:31,394 --> 02:05:34,494 The next day Phil Carson goes in and he leaves, 2653 02:05:34,561 --> 02:05:36,427 "So boy, I will sign you to Atlantic Records, 2654 02:05:36,527 --> 02:05:38,561 " but I have to tell you very Interesting conversations that I have. 2655 02:05:38,627 --> 02:05:40,761 Do you know this person? named Doug Morris? " 2656 02:05:40,827 --> 02:05:41,761 " Yes. " 2657 02:05:41,827 --> 02:05:44,661 I called on Tuesday the following weekend 2658 02:05:44,727 --> 02:05:48,395 I had seen Twisted Sister and said, 2659 02:05:48,395 --> 02:05:50,328 " Oh, I have a new band, I just signed a band . 2660 02:05:50,328 --> 02:05:53,262 This is the first time I have signed an American band 2661 02:05:53,362 --> 02:05:56,462 But they happen to be finished and they are really good. " 2662 02:05:56,528 --> 02:06:00,395 And Doug Morris said, " What did they call? " 2663 02:06:00,495 --> 02:06:02,128 I said, "Twisted Sister." 2664 02:06:02,195 --> 02:06:04,528 When Doug is like, "Are you kidding me? 2665 02:06:04,595 --> 02:06:05,528 They suck! They suck! 2666 02:06:05,528 --> 02:06:06,795 I don't want them on my label. They suck!" 2667 02:06:06,795 --> 02:06:09,762 And Phil goes, "Of course they suck, but you know that 2668 02:06:09,762 --> 02:06:11,228 will sell lots of notes!" 2669 02:06:13,262 --> 02:06:16,163 We noted "You Can't Stop Rock 'n' Roll." 2670 02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:19,796 We have a record in England, sold out tour, 2671 02:06:19,863 --> 02:06:22,463 we are above The Pops-- three times. 2672 02:06:22,563 --> 02:06:25,529 We do our best. Come back to America. 2673 02:06:25,596 --> 02:06:28,196 Of course, Atlantic Atlantic Records .-- 2674 02:06:28,263 --> 02:06:30,396 zero support, no. 2675 02:06:32,596 --> 02:06:35,129 Records out and as you can imagine 2676 02:06:35,196 --> 02:06:36,663 That is not a big priority for the label 2677 02:06:36,729 --> 02:06:41,663 That, uh, The staff didn't work that. 2678 02:06:41,729 --> 02:06:42,663 I'm working on it. 2679 02:06:42,729 --> 02:06:43,730 I'm calling a radio station. 2680 02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:46,397 I do a lot of things I am not allowed to do it. 2681 02:06:46,464 --> 02:06:50,530 But if it's not a priority For companies, it's very difficult. 2682 02:06:50,564 --> 02:06:51,864 We chew a little to get out 2683 02:06:51,864 --> 02:06:54,697 and prove ourselves to the world but, you know, 2684 02:06:54,764 --> 02:06:56,564 no one wants us to go on a tour with them. 2685 02:06:56,630 --> 02:07:00,364 So we open this tour open for Krokus and Blackfoot. 2686 02:07:00,430 --> 02:07:01,864 29 minutes. 2687 02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:04,097 And we don't have a budget, you know. 2688 02:07:04,164 --> 02:07:07,130 And hire a Winnebago and drive 56 hours. 2689 02:07:07,230 --> 02:07:10,330 56 hours to Salt Lake City 2690 02:07:10,397 --> 02:07:11,397 and Winnebago then break down. 2691 02:07:11,497 --> 02:07:13,431 And Mark is below it and fix it, 2692 02:07:13,531 --> 02:07:15,531 You know, like he would do it on Long Island, right? 2693 02:07:15,598 --> 02:07:17,365 All to play 29 minutes. 2694 02:07:17,431 --> 02:07:20,631 But we were very bent when playing 29 minutes. 2695 02:07:20,698 --> 02:07:22,198 I mean, that's what you do, right? 2696 02:07:22,298 --> 02:07:25,631 Every city we visit we make an impression 2697 02:07:25,731 --> 02:07:28,131 Every city we go for us to sell recordings 2698 02:07:28,198 --> 02:07:30,531 Every city we visit, representatives of the local Atlantic 2699 02:07:30,598 --> 02:07:33,098 will call following Monday and go, 2700 02:07:33,198 --> 02:07:37,331 "Damn, I just saw the future of rock 'n' roll. 2701 02:07:37,398 --> 02:07:40,198 Their name is Twisted Sister." 2702 02:07:40,265 --> 02:07:43,166 And its main office, Doug Morris and company, 2703 02:07:43,266 --> 02:07:45,832 must hear the dreaded word "Twisted" repeatedly. 2704 02:07:46,132 --> 02:07:47,799 One day I was called to the president's office 2705 02:07:47,866 --> 02:07:51,099 from Atlantic Records, Doug Morris, 2706 02:07:51,166 --> 02:07:52,566 and he said, "Do you know what? 2707 02:07:52,666 --> 02:07:54,699 This - this is the real thing." 2708 02:07:54,799 --> 02:07:56,832 And they will do new recordings with Twisted. 2709 02:07:57,132 --> 02:07:59,599 They will push all the buttons 2710 02:07:59,699 --> 02:08:01,532 and withdraw all stops, 2711 02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:02,866 2712 02:08:03,166 --> 02:08:05,699 throw money into this object and make it happen 2713 02:08:05,766 --> 02:08:08,499 Doug Morris, head of Atlantic Records, 2714 02:08:08,599 --> 02:08:10,267 our enemy-- 2715 02:08:10,367 --> 02:08:13,233 who definitely hates has me, this is nonsense, 2716 02:08:13,300 --> 02:08:16,200 dirtbag, Dee Snider in his office-- 2717 02:08:16,267 --> 02:08:17,667 tell me what they will do 2718 02:08:17,767 --> 02:08:20,433 And I debated with him about different movements 2719 02:08:20,533 --> 02:08:21,733 they want to make 2720 02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:25,700 He has a lot of ideas how to clean Twisted Sister. 2721 02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,433 And I argue with everything. 2722 02:08:28,533 --> 02:08:30,533 You know, our fans, our fans, our fans. 2723 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:34,467 And finally Doug has it! 2724 02:08:34,567 --> 02:08:39,334 And he said, "How many fans? what do you think?" 2725 02:08:39,401 --> 02:08:42,601 So I did some math, you know, we sold 150,000 albums, 2726 02:08:42,668 --> 02:08:44,868 added there are abroad, so whatever it is, 2727 02:08:45,134 --> 02:08:49,368 I come with that number 100,000 - 150,000 - 200,000. 2728 02:08:49,434 --> 02:08:53,101 And he said, "What do you want? And this is it 12 year old young man 2729 02:08:53,168 --> 02:08:58,134 on Atlantic Records and see the president, 2730 02:08:58,201 --> 02:09:00,168 you know, this big important man. 2731 02:09:02,468 --> 02:09:05,101 And I give up. 2732 02:09:05,201 --> 02:09:09,102 I say, "I want to have a platinum record." 2733 02:09:09,202 --> 02:09:11,202 2734 02:09:11,269 --> 02:09:12,402 2735 02:09:12,469 --> 02:09:17,669 2736 02:09:17,769 --> 02:09:21,502 He said, "Okay, shut up. This is what you have to do." 2737 02:09:22,502 --> 02:09:24,302 Of course behind I realize 2738 02:09:24,402 --> 02:09:26,635 the correct answer is, "I want both." 2739 02:09:26,702 --> 02:09:28,802 You know, there are ways to achieve both. 2740 02:09:28,869 --> 02:09:32,702 But I'm really thrown with that statement 2741 02:09:32,769 --> 02:09:35,835 You know I never thought in terms of millions. 2742 02:09:36,135 --> 02:09:38,336 But here is a man, This is a record label 2743 02:09:38,436 --> 02:09:40,136 and that's the only way they really think 2744 02:09:40,203 --> 02:09:43,303 They think in terms of 500,000, one million, 2745 02:09:43,370 --> 02:09:46,636 two million, do you know? 2746 02:09:46,736 --> 02:09:51,503 We finally sell three and a half million "stay hungry" in the U.S. 2747 02:09:51,570 --> 02:09:52,770 So, that's cool. 2748 02:10:07,504 --> 02:10:10,704 I always wonder how fans feel 2749 02:10:10,804 --> 02:10:13,337 When we finally pass it and become so big, 2750 02:10:13,437 --> 02:10:15,471 they must have felt it very justified 2751 02:10:15,537 --> 02:10:18,571 What is the Donnas in the world? feel the justification 2752 02:10:18,637 --> 02:10:22,204 for their five unforgettable days-a- weeks-trips-everywhere 2753 02:10:22,271 --> 02:10:25,837 Twisted Sister diehard support? 2754 02:10:26,104 --> 02:10:30,837 You know... when you are so close to the band, 2755 02:10:31,137 --> 02:10:36,138 like really feet away from a band, and you get a bit, 2756 02:10:36,205 --> 02:10:38,472 I don't know, maybe it's so possessive about them? 2757 02:10:38,572 --> 02:10:43,205 And you have this feeling, um, you know it will go 2758 02:10:43,305 --> 02:10:46,572 So you really are happy for them that they are 2759 02:10:46,638 --> 02:10:48,738 get success that they deserve it, 2760 02:10:48,805 --> 02:10:50,472 and recognized, you know, 2761 02:10:50,538 --> 02:10:54,238 around the world for what they do here in our little club 2762 02:10:54,338 --> 02:10:56,672 But at the same time little tearing my heart 2763 02:10:56,772 --> 02:10:58,105 because I will lose them 2764 02:11:27,106 --> 02:11:28,673 Good night everyone! 2765 02:11:28,773 --> 02:11:30,373 We... Twisted... 2766 02:11:30,773 --> 02:11:31,706 Fucking... 2767 02:11:31,773 --> 02:11:33,774 Brother! 2768 02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:50,540 Whoa! What is Twisted Sister about that? 2769 02:11:50,607 --> 02:11:52,340 Well it's simple! 2770 02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,607 We are just about having fun. 2771 02:11:55,707 --> 02:11:56,774 That's it! 2772 02:11:56,874 --> 02:11:58,440 We just want to have fun! 2773 02:11:58,507 --> 02:12:02,241 We want to forget work. We want to forget about school. 2774 02:12:02,308 --> 02:12:04,308 We like to forget about home problems 2775 02:12:04,375 --> 02:12:05,608 We want to forget everything 2776 02:12:05,675 --> 02:12:07,241 except partying 2777 02:12:07,341 --> 02:12:08,808 And we party hard. Delivered by: www.subtitlecinema.com