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Now we want to take
everyone to North Korea.

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We have an unprecedented
investigation by

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the United Nations taking us
inside a kind of hell.

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-It's mad and sad and bad
and silly all in the same time.

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-Most tours go to North Korea
with very low expectations.

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Because everybody
watches the documentaries,

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reads the news, and so on.

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And even if 90 percent of
what they learn is not true,

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at least it's something
they've looked into.

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Because everybody knows
North Korea is an unusual place.

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Everybody knows they do things
differently to everyone else.

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What we ignore
is that there is life

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for 24 million people there.

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-The regime seeks
to dominate every aspect

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of its citizens' lives
and terrorizes them from within.

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We don't have much awareness
of the Western mentality,

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of how they perceive
the Koreans from outside

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from the rest of the world.

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-For the outside world
it's sort of a freak show.

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That's part of the fascination
with North Korea.

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There aren't that many real
mysteries left in the world,

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and this is a closed,
mysterious place.

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Due to the U.S. hostile policy
to our Korea,

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they try to isolate and,
you know,

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stifle our country,
consistently threaten our people.

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-The situation in North Korea
is extremely grave.

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The country
is a totalitarian regime.

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It is a regime
that doesn't respect

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the universal human rights
of its citizens.

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-Amnesty International,
which has been investigating

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human rights violations
for the last 50 years,

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we find North Korea to be
in a category of its own.

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There's a severe food crisis.

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Freedom of expression,
freedom of speech,

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freedom of association
is severely curtailed.

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-Torture, rape, forced
abortion, and execution.

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-Just unprecedented
crimes against humanity.

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And the world
can't close its eyes to that

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and pretend it's not there just
because there's a nuclear problem.

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-Pyongyang warns
an explosion is imminent,

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and war could break out
today or tomorrow.

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-North Korea does not
and will not benefit

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from violating international law.

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-How concerned should we be?

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-How dangerous is the situation?

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-This is how wars start.

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-Threats of terror-like violence
and another premiere cancelled.

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-We cannot have a society
in which some dictator someplace

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can start imposing censorship

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here in the United States.

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Because if somebody is able
to intimidate folks

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out of releasing
a satirical movie,

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imagine what they'd start doing
when they see

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a documentary
that they don't like.

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We honor, we honor
to the highest degree

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our Great Leader Kim Jong-un
we honor to the highest degree.

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We honor, we honor
to the highest degree

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our Great Leader Kim Jong-un.

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We honor to the highest degree.

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North Korea is known
as the Hermit Kingdom,

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and there is a reason for this.

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It is almost impossible to get in,
especially with a camera.

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Over the centuries, Korea
has been invaded more than 100 times

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by its powerful neighbors
China and Japan.

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Today, it remains the last
stronghold of communism.

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My name is Alvaro Longoria.
  I am a filmmaker from Spain.

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For many years, I have been rather
fascinated by North Korea.

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Probably like you, I have wondered:

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Is everything we read and hear
about North Korea really true?

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Over the next days,
is my quest to seek out the truth.

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After many failed attempts
to get into the country,

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I heard about Alejandro,

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the only foreigner who works
for the government of North Korea.

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I contacted him through Facebook

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and a year later, we were officially
invited into the country.

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Sponsored by Alejandro,

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and provided we followed
their strict rules,

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we would be granted
privileged access.

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We were put
on a predetermined itinerary

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and could not leave
the hotel alone.

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At all times we were accompanied
by our Korean guides.

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In theory, we were allowed to
interview anybody we wanted.

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-Korea is a small country
thousands of miles away.

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But what is happening
there is important to every
American.

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-A highly trained and well-equipped
North Korean army

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swarmed across the 38th parallel
to attack

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unprepared South Korean defenders.

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(Explosions)

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-The scene was set for a war
between North and South.

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With the North supplied
by China with tacet backing

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from the Soviet Union.

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And the South supported
by the United States and its allies.

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-The cost was high to Americans

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who bore the brunt
under the UN banner.

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Here they faced an enemy who
ruthlessly slaughtered prisoners,

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many with their arms bound.

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-First films
of the ceremonies at Panmunjom

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that end 3 years
of bitter, costly conflict.

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(Music)

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The bulky agreement spells out
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every provision of the truce.

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The ceasefire is good news
to the men at the front,

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but it is almost sombre here.

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Every UN member present
knows that the big problems

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remain to be solved, even
if the enemy acts in good faith.

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But there is hope.
A big step forward has been taken.

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The armistice becomes official.

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The fighting is over.

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Prisoners will be exchanged,
but there is little rejoicing.

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The Cold War is on,
and the Free World wonders what
next.

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On day one, we headed
to the South Korean border,

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the most militarized
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wrongly named the
"Demilitarized Zone".

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In the 200 km highway
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we only saw one car,

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a couple of bicycles
and a bus.

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Until September of 1945,
when the U.S. occupied South Korea,

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the 38th parallel marked the
division between the North and the
South.

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The intention of the U.S.
when they occupied South Korea,

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was to provoke a war
with North Korea

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and to keep advancing to the north
of the country to rule over all of
Asia.

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This is the division of the country
that was made back then

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and has remained untouched

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causing misery and distress
for more than half a century.

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Around this line there is
an area of 4 km called

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the "Demilitarized Zone".

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Panmunjom is the most
unstable place in the world

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where 2 nations at war are not
separated by a physical border.

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The Demilitarized Zone
was not what we expected.

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This is probably the most
dangerous place in the world.

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At the moment that's what they say
the most heavily militarized...

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But here it's very peaceful,
on our side.

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On our side it looks very relaxed.

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To be honest, we were expecting
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Except for the clapping.

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Over there, that's South Korea

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and those blue buildings
are the border.

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This place is strange and it feels
like a tourist attraction.

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This is the only place

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where we can cross
from the North to the South.

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This room has been the setting
for approximately 12,000 meetings

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since the end of the war
until March of 1991.

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The purpose of these meetings was
to denounce the acts of provocation

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and the violations of the conditions
of the armistice by the U.S.

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Since the end of the war until 1991,

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more than 815,000 infractions
have been registered

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committed by the U.S. government.

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The violation of the conditions
of the armistice

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has caused that, at any time,
nuclear war could break out in
Korea.

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In order to preserve peace
in Korea and in the World,

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we need to design a new system
that can assure peace

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between us and the U.S.

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But the U.S. keeps doing
military tests

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and every year they increase

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the deployment of nuclear weapons
in South Korea.

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Our victory is not recognized
by the U.S.

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and doesn't appear in their books.

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We do not know
how it will be taught in the future.

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Documents, they showed

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how the war was prepared
by the North Koreans.

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Evidence from the
Russian and Chinese archives

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was published 20 years ago,

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but most North Koreans
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the war was initiated
by the Americans.

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When I was in North Korea

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I was taught that America
started the Korean War

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but when I came to South Korea
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I realized that
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that first attacked South Korea.

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We always explain the Korean War
was started by the U.S.

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although there was
a fight going on

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because our guerillas
led by President Kim Il-sung,

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liberated the Northern half

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while the U.S. was advancing
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Then they collided and there were
many skirmishes and fighting.

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Even if the Americans
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we won't let them
enter our country,

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nor will we let them
sign this treaty.

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In school we are taught

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that the United States

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is the cause
of our economic hardship

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and the reason why
our lives are so difficult.

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That is why the North Koreans
believe the U.S. is to blame

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for their mortification
and their dissatisfaction.

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It is all the fault
of the United States.

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(Dramatic music playing)

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We cannot live like enemies forever.

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Some people change their policies,

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or apologize for the past

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but, speaking of Americans
they never did.

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Imperialists are still...

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they didn't throw away
their policy.

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They're sanctioning
and stifling ours.

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So defending our country,

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of course, that matter comes first.

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Military force is very important,

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so we are enforcing
Songun politics

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even in present times.

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"Army first" politics.

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It means a country
without a powerful army

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cannot survive.

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It will be always dependent

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on the big superpowers.

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The principle
of the Songun revolution

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is that the army is the party,
the nation and the people.

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This means the party
can only subsist and prosper

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thanks to the military forces.

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Songun is a statement by
the North Korean Government.

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The soldiers are the most
progressive class in the society,

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who is playing the leading role
in defining its political line.

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These statements however are
completely unrelated to reality,

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it's just the rhetoric exercise
by the professional ideologues.

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Korea spends 16% of its GDP
on the military.

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This is huge,
considering the economic situation

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where there is widespread
hunger and poverty.

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However,
given the geographic location,

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Korea needs to keep up
this investment

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as they have to be prepared
for war at any moment.

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-North Korea, the secretive nation
with its mysterious

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young dictator,
announcing they will test their

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nuclear power,
a rocket big enough

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and with enough range
to reach the west coast

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of the United States.

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May represent
the most advanced technology

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we've ever seen
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-It's terrifying.

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-So thrilled was this country

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by their rocket launch
fireworks ripped through the sky.

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North Korean newscasters
announced the successful launch

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with ecstasy.

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The launch has been a success!

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We are always
on the verge of nuclear war.

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The U.S. is allowed to have

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the highest amount
of nuclear weapons.

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We cannot afford
to be unprotected.

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North Korea aims
for the nuclear bomb

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since the 90s,

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because, until then,

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it has been protected
by the soviet nuclear umbrella.

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And this is something
that the Western media always
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Korea has always been
under the threat

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of the Western nuclear weapon

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always.

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We are forced
you can understand it,

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when they are organizing
a sort of big campaign,

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a military campaign,

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and execute military rehearsals
every year

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in front of our nose,

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we can't stay with folded arms

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we have to do
our part of the job.

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This is self-defense, definitely.

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-These are among
the biggest simulated battles

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staged anywhere in the world.

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And, on occasion,
these exercises have provoked

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a violent reaction from the North.

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Sometimes the North
has held its own exercises

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determined to show
its military might.

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On other occasions,
the bombardment has been real.

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It's much more interesting
to analyze

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the "menace"

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that North Korea represents
for the rest of the world.

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It's a country
that has never invaded others,

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whose army is basically made of
junk.

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It's like comparing

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a space station

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with a toaster.

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(Gunfire)

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-It's not a joke.

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It's a country
with the fourth largest

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standing army in the world.

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It's a country
which is armed to the teeth

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with 20 nuclear warheads
and with an increasingly

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sophisticated missile delivery
system.

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If we didn't protect ourselves,
if we weren't strong,

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we would succumb
to the menace of imperialism.

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Armed robbery
has to be answered with weapons.

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A powerful army needs to be prepared
to overthrow the imperialist
invader.

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(Music)

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It's a credible argument,

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It's not a crazy idea of the Kims',
to get nuclear weapons,

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it is a matter of survival.

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Based on what happened
to Saddam Hussein

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after they did engage
in some disarmament,

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so the North Koreans
feel that the only thing

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that's protecting them
is their nuclear weapons.

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Do you think if you didn't have
the nuclear weapon

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you would have been invaded?

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Most probably, yes.

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Only by building a powerful
and nuclear deterrence force

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we can stop the bullying
and the threats from the U.S.

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My dream has always been

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to be a member
of our Korean People's Army

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since I was so young.

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(Music)

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I could say that I am born in Spain,

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I am born Spanish
but adopted North Korean.

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The way he speaks
about our country,

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the way he appreciates our country,

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is very much valued
by our people.

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they like him.

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And sometimes,

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in the streets,

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some Koreans recognize him

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"Oh, hello, I saw you before!",

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and "I am so happy to meet you!"
like that.

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There are a lot of sympathizers.

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But it is not often
that someone goes as far

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as to be willing
to give his life for us,

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like Alejandro.

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When I was 16,
I had my first encounter

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with the minister Li Jong Gun

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and he instructed me
on what the country really means

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and this was my first relationship
with a North Korean friend.

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He had seen my potential
and he told me:

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"Alejandro, you cannot waste
your capacity, your knowledge,

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as a soldier of the People's Army.
We have millions of soldiers.

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But we don't have anyone
who understands,

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who's been born into capitalism,

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and who can act as a bridge
between both cultures,

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between both ideologies.

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Our party, our country,
needs you outside."

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He was like a mentor to Alejandro.

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He told me once:

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"Your son is the number one Korean."

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It was a surprise for us.

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We knew very little
about the country.

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So you are influenced by the ideas,

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the news, everything you hear.

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It affects you.

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So, we were somehow...

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not afraid,

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but we felt we needed
to act with caution

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and we told him to be very aware

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and to take precaution.

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He had an interest in communism,

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he was looking
for that model society,

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a society that distributed
the riches among all citizens,

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that was fair,
because he hadn't found one.

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So when he was a member
of political parties

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like Izquierda Unida,
or the Communist Party

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he realized that
the ideas were beautiful,

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but the people in charge

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were

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selfish,

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ambitious,

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and that clashed
with his personality

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so he kept looking.

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The way to reach
the socialist paradise

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depends on our Great Leader
Kim Jong-il.

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Long live our Great Leader
Kim Jong-il!

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00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Long live the DPRK!

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00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,960
(Applause)

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(Music)

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00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840
Where are you taking us now?

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We are going to the Mansu bronze
statues of our Great Leaders,

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President Kim Il-sung and
our Generalissimo Kim Jong-il.

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We are going to present a flower
bouquet as a symbol of respect

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for April 15th,

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which is the birthday anniversary
of President Kim Il-sung.

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Everybody can buy flowers

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and offer them
as a symbol of respect

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for his work and dedication
for the revolution.

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That's a tradition.
In all national holidays,

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even when you marry, to come
and pay respect to our leaders

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because, more than anything,

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the leaders are our fathers.

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We are part of a big family,

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and, in that family
the figures of the leaders

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are like the fathers
of the full society.

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(Music)

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Our hearts are full of respect
for our leaders.

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We come here often,
as if this were our own house,

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to thank them.

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We North Koreans feel very proud

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of having leaders

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that the whole world admires.

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(Music)

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Good morning, sir.

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-I'm Alejandro, the Spanish soldier.
-He's a soldier of our General.

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He is doing a great job
making relations for our country.

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Yes, my General.

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00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,320
So is he a veteran from the war?

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He fought in the revolution war.

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I went to the river Nakdong.

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Then I fought with
the Chinese People's Army.

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I hope in my life
to follow his footsteps

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and also give my life
for the motherland

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and preserving socialism
and our Great Leaders.

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We feel very, very proud

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00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,040
and we feel very strong.

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00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,000
We have the motivation
to fight against imperialism.

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00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,880
And they won't be able to attack us,
we are a very strong country.

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I am 82 years old.

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00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Thanks to Great Leader Kim Jong-il
and to Kim Jong-un

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00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,200
veterans like me

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00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800
enjoy many benefits
from the government.

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For example, we have a house,
but there are many other things.

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00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080
We have a special card
for medical assistance

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00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
and we receive all kinds
of treatments and care.

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00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,880
We also have access to limited food,
like some vegetables.

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00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,720
In general we enjoy many
commodities.

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Life in this country
as opposed to capitalism,

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is guaranteed for all the people.

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Housing, medical service,

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education in the university
food, clothing,

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whatever you need in the daily life
is provided, guaranteed for free.

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All the necessary daily necessities
we get from the government.

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We don't pay taxes,

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,920
we don't pay for the houses...

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Under the wise leadership
of our Marshal Kim Jong-un,

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the economy of our country
is developing step by step.

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As you may see, in Pyongyang there
are many new apartment houses

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and new museums and many recreation
places for the people.

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Not only in Pyongyang
but also in the countryside,

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we are constructing amenities
facilities and many places

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which is conducive to improving
the livelihood of the people.

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Our Great Leader
Comrade Kim Jong-il

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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,480
first defended the country
and then created the foundation

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on which we can
improve our economy.

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,920
So, are you happy?

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00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Yes.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,360
(Music)

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Ok, so here is the main building
of the War Museum.

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00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,600
As you see here the museum
consists of three floors.

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And you see this is a statue

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
of the Great Leader President
Kim Il-sung,

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320
who defeated two imperialisms
in one generation.

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00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,760
As you know he defeated
the Japanese army and the Americans.

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00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,720
And here we'll make a line

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,520
and we'll make a bow to our Great
Leader President Kim Il-sung.

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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,440
We were alone there,

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00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,440
despite the fact that it's Sunday
and it should be full.

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00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,160
It's hard to understand why that is.

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00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,640
Maybe it's only the military
that go there,

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00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760
maybe it's not open for regular
people... We don't know.

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00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,240
It's nearly built, now.

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00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960
There were many specialists,
designers...

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00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,760
But I am sure
Marshal Kim Jong-un

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00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080
instructed it
from the start to the end.

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00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
This panorama is an oil painting,

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it's 15 metres high
and 132 metres long

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and 42 meters diameter.

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00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Also it's only 13.5 metres away
from your seat to the picture

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00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,000
but you can see more than
40 kilometres away from the picture.

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So, watching this,
are you proud?

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00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Yes, very proud.

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00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160
The Korean people can visit here
and they can experience

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00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,200
how the Korean People's Army

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have fought against the invaders.

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00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Now we can take the route
of Marshal Kim Jong-un.

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00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,720
Did he...

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00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,240
use the machines?

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00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,600
That's the one.

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Muscle development machine used

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00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440
by our esteemed Supreme Leader
Kim Jong-un.

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When our respected Marshal
Comrade Kim Jong-un

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was looking around this,

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00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320
it was not a slide, there was a
step.

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,520
But he told us, very wisely

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00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,800
if there is a step, people will get
hurt, by the sharp edges,

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00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
and he told our construction workers

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00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240
to change this into a slide.

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00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Socialist hamburgers
hot dogs, chicken wings...

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00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,320
Not the American McDonald's.

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00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Not American
communist state products.

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,320
(Music)

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00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,720
For the first time in five days,
we are alone.

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00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,040
It's amazing...

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Oh, here they come.

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00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,720
This building was built
only last year

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00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,160
so this is the most updated
and modern.

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00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Very luxury.

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00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Watching U.S. movies is prohibited,

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880
strangely, Disney's "Brave"
was playing on the TV.

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00:32:53,640 --> 00:33:00,040
This building has 300 apartments
and they are all the same.

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00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:06,200
They are presents from Kim Jong-un
to teachers for spreading his word.

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00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Can you ask her
to show us the fridge?

487
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,800
What is she cooking for tonight?

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00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,000
She is too shy.
We never saw the fridge.

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00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,640
(Shrieking)

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00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040
One question that keeps on
coming back to my mind is:

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00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,600
where is the money coming from?

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00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Lots of new constructions...

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00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,240
Lots of new stuff like this
I mean, this is not a set.

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00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Would you say that living conditions
have improved?

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00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Not only my family,

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00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,400
but all Korean people are happy
to lead such happy, civilized lives

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00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,080
and we are enjoying
this updated amusement park,

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00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,960
so we are happy.

499
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,520
After only 5 days in Pyongyang,

500
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200
the constant propaganda
was starting to work.

501
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
With enough time
maybe even I could be convinced.

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00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,600
What does he do?

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,000
I was in the army

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00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,440
but now I have entered university.

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,800
So after the army
he went to university.

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00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,000
What is he studying?

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Locomotive driver.

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00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,200
What is his aspiration in life?

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00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,720
His dream? His goal?

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,480
My dream?

511
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,240
I want to be a locomotive driver

512
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,600
to work for my Great Leader.

513
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840
-There's a system in North Korea
called songbun.

514
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,560
And it's a ranking
by your loyalty

515
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,600
to the leadership.

516
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,280
And people are divided
into a core class

517
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,080
of those who are considered
the party members

518
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,680
and the real supporters
of the regime.

519
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,560
And then there's a wavering class

520
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,960
in the middle, the vast middle,

521
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680
and then the undesirables
at the bottom.

522
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,960
And where you live,
what kind of job you have,

523
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,040
where you go to school,
that's based on your class.

524
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,760
There are three free benefits
in North Korea:

525
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,440
free housing, free medical care
and free education.

526
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Although there is free medical
care, there is no medicine to cure,

527
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,600
and with free housing you cannot
choose where you want to live

528
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,360
and with free education you have
to learn the ideology of the regime

529
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,320
even if you don't want to.

530
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,240
We salute him
when we go to school

531
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,800
and we salute him again
when we go back home.

532
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,720
He is the one
who loves us the most

533
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,760
us, the children.

534
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Our father, General Kim Jong-il.

535
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,760
(Music)

536
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,400
-North Koreans are brainwashed
from the minute they're born.

537
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Almost the first thing
they learn to say is

538
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640
"thank you, dear leader."

539
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:26,680
He is the one who loves us the most,
us, the children.

540
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,320
Our father, General Kim Jong-il.

541
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:40,720
Our father, General Kim Jong-il.

542
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,960
(Applause)

543
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120
(Music)

544
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
First it's education,
obviously it's very important,

545
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,520
since you are a kid,

546
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000
that you grow up
and you learn to live

547
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,560
according to the ideology
to the communism.

548
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Then, of course,

549
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,840
the education provided
not only by professors or teachers

550
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,440
but the mass media
or televisions, newspapers and so on

551
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,160
work on human values

552
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,720
and try to make the people better
in their daily lives.

553
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,480
(Music)

554
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:34,960
We think that everything
that appears in the film,

555
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,480
all the workers and all the people,

556
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,000
must collaborate
in benefit of the people.

557
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,240
(Music)

558
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,280
Propaganda can also be used
as a means of education

559
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
to contribute to the culture
of our citizens.

560
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,400
-Kim Jong-il was
very involved in film.

561
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,120
He wrote a book called Kim Jong-il
on The Art of Cinema

562
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,040
explaining how film
could be used to instill

563
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,960
patriotism in the masses.

564
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,960
They certainly recognize
the role of domestic propaganda.

565
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,680
(Music)

566
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,680
The idea Juche,
created by Kim Il-sung,

567
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,800
was developed by Kim Jong-il.
It establishes the principle

568
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,560
that if we leave everything
in the hands of society,

569
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:46,280
the latter can decide everything.

570
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,320
It's a concept
that cannot be compared

571
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,360
to any other ideology of the past

572
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,880
or the teachings of Confucius.

573
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,640
-It probably began
in the idealism of a kind of

574
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,920
communism, but also
a kind of nationalism

575
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
and romantic historicism.

576
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,760
-It kind of started out
as kind of a humanistic

577
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,600
approach to philosophy,
a humanistic idea

578
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,960
that man was
the centre of the universe,

579
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880
that man could go accomplish
all of his problems.

580
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,800
And it became--
like Kim Jong-il as the worship

581
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,720
of the dear leader,
it really became

582
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,040
a way to control.

583
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,440
It's an ideology
that intends to combine

584
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Marxism Leninism,

585
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,200
the ideas of Mao Zedong

586
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,160
and religion.

587
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Of course, to make
a combination of all

588
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,000
that you need to make it
so nobody can understand it.

589
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,560
If no one can understand it,
no one will protest against it.

590
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,400
It basically says
man is the master of all things.

591
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
And everything has to be done
in a peculiar way

592
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
which is suitable
for this current situation.

593
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,320
Wonderful.

594
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Such a great philosophical
discovery.

595
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,360
And if you look at what North
Koreans write about Juche

596
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,680
you see it's a platitude
after platitude.

597
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,040
Juche ideology in North Korea
is like the Bible in Christianity,

598
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,240
it's like words from God,

599
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,240
so North Koreans have to believe

600
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,800
the Juche ideology
without any questions.

601
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,400
What they need to do
is to learn it by heart.

602
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,200
They know it,
and they can recite it,

603
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,360
like the Quran

604
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,880
or the Bible.

605
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,760
Who is going to dare to say:
"I don't understand this."

606
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,000
No one dares,

607
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
much less so
in a country like Korea.

608
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,680
You don't understand it?

609
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,400
North Koreans
don't understand it either.

610
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,000
I had a strict education.

611
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:00,280
If I didn't believe
what I was being taught,

612
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
I was punished.

613
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,000
I can basically say

614
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,240
Juche is nothing.

615
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,280
Because you can basically
summarize Marxism

616
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,160
but you cannot summarize Juche.

617
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,880
Is this clear?

618
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Could you summarize, briefly
what the Juche idea is?

619
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,840
Are you a specialist in philosophy?

620
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,480
No, I try to understand.

621
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,960
The best explanation
is to see our reality.

622
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,880
It's better to know our country
than to listen to me a hundred
times.

623
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,360
It's better to see our reality
than to listen to my words.

624
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:51,560
(Music)

625
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,200
What you see here is
three huge doors,

626
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,400
metallic, that will close
in the event of a U.S. attack.

627
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960
One, two and three
will be completely sealed

628
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:49,680
from the exterior, you see?
All these frames?

629
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,280
In case of attack,

630
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,640
everything is ready to use
the underground transportation
system

631
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,320
to move the people
and shelter hundreds of thousands.

632
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Maybe him?

633
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,240
Or all of them

634
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,200
at the same time?

635
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Him?

636
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Good morning, sir.

637
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,760
He is a director from Spain.

638
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,080
-It's a pleasure.
-The same.

639
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
He would like to ask you
some questions.

640
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
In many countries
especially in the Western world,

641
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,400
people are very impressed

642
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,160
with the love and reverence

643
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,560
of the Korean people as one family
united around their leader.

644
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,320
They cannot understand
the power of that unity.

645
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,600
What would you say
to those people,

646
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,840
in other countries of the world

647
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,080
that don't understand?

648
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,800
How can there be
such a single-minded unity?

649
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,080
I cannot think of a specific way

650
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,480
to explain it to the people
who don't understand us.

651
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,760
But if they came here,
if they saw the reality,

652
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,440
maybe they could understand us.

653
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,720
That would be worth
a thousand words.

654
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,280
It would be much more convincing.

655
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,880
What he says is true:

656
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,240
if you don't come,
if you don't see it,

657
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,960
if you don't ask the people,
you'll never believe it.

658
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080
That is the strength of Korea.

659
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,640
-Most foreigners
have never met a North Korean.

660
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Most North Koreans
have never met a foreigner.

661
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,720
The view that we have of them
is very negative.

662
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,080
The view they have of us
is even more negative.

663
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,680
-Where are you from?
-Spain.

664
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,240
Do you know where Spain is?

665
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,600
Why are you here in DPRK?

666
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Because we want to know
how people live here.

667
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,760
We are very happy.

668
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Are they as happy as we are?

669
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,000
Do they have a president?

670
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,680
In Spain are there also
people who love children?

671
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,880
All kids like you like football.

672
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,280
What is your favorite
Spanish league team?

673
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,800
-Koreo!
-No, Spanish league.

674
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Barcelona!

675
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,320
Me, Atlético de Madrid.

676
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,520
Is it better and more beautiful
than here?

677
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,600
Some parts are similar

678
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,920
but this country is very beautiful.

679
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,280
So many foreigners
when they first come to our country,

680
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,040
they are just, you could say
surprised, at the realities.

681
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,960
When they come and see this
they say: "This is wonderful."

682
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,800
When they come here
and they see the Korean people

683
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,920
wearing different dresses
they say:

684
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,520
"Wow, when I was abroad,

685
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,760
there was a propaganda that said

686
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,760
that Korean people had to wear
only one uniform,

687
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,680
you know, just like

688
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,080
one clothing, with no differences".

689
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,520
I think

690
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,960
foreigners need to come here
and see the reality.

691
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,840
-I understand
that especially with North Korea,

692
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,280
you've got so much misinformation
and so little information.

693
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,200
It's not
so much misinformation,

694
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,520
I feel that any scrap of information
that the West gets,

695
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,440
it's like, well, they did this,
let's make a story out of it.

696
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,600
And there's no information on it.

697
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,400
-When there's a vacuum,
it's easy to create

698
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,240
and make it believable.

699
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:51,000
Sometimes they are created
as a parody,

700
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,120
and it still rings true.

701
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Why, because we just know
so little about the country.

702
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,120
North Korea is an unimaginable
country.

703
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,560
There is only one TV channel.

704
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,880
There is no Internet.

705
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,840
We aren't free to sing, say,

706
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,240
wear or think what we want.

707
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,320
North Korea is the only country
in the world,

708
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,640
that executes people,

709
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,760
for making unauthorized
international phone calls.

710
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,720
-The North Korean government
has announced

711
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,080
that it found a unicorn.

712
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:56,960
(Laughing)

713
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560
-Ah, foreigners are funny.

714
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,360
-A unicorn is a mythical creature
that the Greeks

715
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,200
first mentioned,
but it's in North Korea.

716
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,880
Now my question to you
is if you were

717
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,440
a unicorn, you would go
to North Korea, right?

718
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,160
I mean that's the only place
you'd want to be is there.

719
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,640
-But everything's like
that with North Korea.

720
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,920
It's always an exaggeration
and a parody and, you know,

721
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
kind of a freak show,
which I think those of us

722
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,280
who cover North Korea
find a little bit distressing

723
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000
because it's not actually very funny

724
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,600
to the 24 million people
who live there.

725
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,720
-The price
of such limited information flow

726
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,960
back and forth is
that we perpetuate stereotypes

727
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,280
of a country or a society.

728
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,120
And I think that's the danger,
that's the price that we pay

729
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,760
when we close off a country
or we isolate a country,

730
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,360
like North Korea.

731
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,960
-North Korea local media
reporting that men now

732
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,320
have to wear their hair
just like their leader,

733
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,360
Kim Jong-un.

734
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,840
-So when we hear oh,
everybody has to have

735
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,600
the same haircut,
you think well, you know,

736
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,360
if that was true anywhere
it would probably be true there.

737
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,000
-Haircuts have reportedly
been state-approved

738
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,880
in North Korea for some time.

739
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Men could choose between
10 hairstyles, women 18.

740
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,840
It was mandatory in North Korea

741
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,400
that everybody cut their hair
in 14 different styles.

742
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,960
There are 18 styles.

743
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,800
Of course the women
can chose their own style,

744
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,120
and if the hairstyle they want
is not here,

745
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,160
then they can ask the hairdresser
"I want this, this, this..."

746
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,000
And it's ok.

747
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,360
There isn't any kind of rule saying
you can cut it only this way, no,

748
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,160
it's the Western propaganda
on our country,

749
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,200
it's unacceptable.

750
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:56,800
I was quite surprised to be asked
that kind of question, you know,

751
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:57,920
when you first asked

752
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,720
but it's not true, you know?

753
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,280
-I don't accept
that there is propaganda

754
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,560
against North Korea.

755
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,520
There is no democracy
there is no free press,

756
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,160
there is no... whatever bullshit...
frankly speaking.

757
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:11,440
This is a war.

758
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,800
And in the war
we defend our idea.

759
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,600
-We defend our equality.
-Are we in a propaganda war?

760
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,200
Yeah, that's right.

761
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,920
And I'm proud to be in the forefront
of that propaganda war.

762
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,400
-On Tuesday
a shadowy group of hackers

763
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,600
calling themselves
Guardians of Peace

764
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,600
threatened violence
of 9/11 proportions

765
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,560
against movie theatres
that showed

766
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,280
the Seth Rogen-James Franco
comedy about a plot

767
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,480
to kill North Korean leader
Kim Jong-un.

768
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,280
It's an act of war,

769
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,440
it's a direct insult
and a mockery.

770
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,320
But it's a special mockery
because in this case

771
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,720
they are killing a living leader

772
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,680
which is never allowed or tolerated
in any other country of the world.

773
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,520
And I want to insist on that,

774
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,400
this movie, if Obama took the place
of our leader Kim Jong-un

775
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,440
it will be considered immediately
a terrorist act.

776
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,520
For them it was a supreme,

777
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,400
it was a kind of offense
a serious offense,

778
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,000
because it was a blasphemy.

779
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,360
I hope and I wish
they will lose a lot of money.

780
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
It has created enough trouble
in Sony Pictures

781
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,760
but it will not be
as profitable as they thought.

782
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,600
-"The Interview" has become

783
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,480
the most successful online movie
ever to be released

784
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,960
by the studio.

785
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,000
The film raked
in over $15 million

786
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,440
and was downloaded
more than 2 million times.

787
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,000
(Music)

788
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,520
The children wanted to wave
to the foreign guests.

789
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,320
They were waving
and saying bye bye,

790
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,680
but he took pictures,

791
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,800
and put them in the newspaper
or a magazine,

792
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,280
making the comment that the children
were asking for help.

793
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,680
-We don't get instructions
from the government,

794
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,960
nor from our editors
as to what specifically to do.

795
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,960
That is a common perception,
I know, in China as well.

796
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:09,120
But, no, I have to clearly say
we are never

797
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,040
an extension of US policies.

798
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,720
In the newspaper there was a photo

799
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080
where the children
were receiving the scarves.

800
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,240
The explanation
of the photograph said:

801
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,560
"Preparing to be military."

802
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,560
It said that.

803
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,120
It was fake.

804
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,840
It's manipulation.
They use a photograph

805
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,240
and then manipulate the text
around it to generate falseness.

806
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,960
-A rally staged
by the Korean Children's Union,

807
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,280
they pledge allegiance
to the state and get

808
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,520
their red scarves.

809
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:50,000
They asked us if all the Korean
people were suffering from hunger

810
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,320
if they had nothing to eat,

811
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,160
they said that...

812
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Not at all!

813
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,720
They also spoke about executions,
saying we killed people in public.

814
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,040
-Authorities reportedly
machine-gunned 8 hooded people

815
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,560
in front of a crowd of 10,000
in a sports stadium

816
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,280
in the port city of Wonsan.

817
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,840
Which crimes are committed
in my country against humanity?

818
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,560
Crimes against humanity
in political prison camps,

819
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,280
crimes against humanity
in ordinary prison system,

820
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,840
crimes against humanity
targeting religious believers

821
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,960
and others considered to introduce
subversive influences.

822
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,680
The COI report is totally

823
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,520
and severely distorting
and faking up

824
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,840
our real situation of human rights

825
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,120
in DPRK

826
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,920
by creating political confrontation.

827
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,640
And the reason for those findings
are set out in detail

828
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,240
supported by actual testimony
in each case.

829
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,400
Even the Western mass media
report that

830
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,840
the most probable testimonies
made by defectors

831
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,080
are forced by leading questions.

832
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,800
The guards
were not trained to torture

833
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,440
but to shoot anyone who rebelled
or tried to escape.

834
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,200
We were told that if a war started

835
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,080
we had to kill every prisoner
to erase the evidence.

836
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,680
That was my job.

837
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,520
Torture,
battering on a large scale...

838
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,280
Specially in the prison camps

839
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,120
and in other detention centers
in North Korea.

840
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,280
I think the intelligent person will
see

841
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,480
that all the propaganda
against the DPRK,

842
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,360
all the horror stories
of the concentration camps,

843
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,560
and public executions

844
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,320
have no evidence at all.

845
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,240
And even now,

846
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,840
who used to be the most
representative defectors

847
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,920
of North Korea

848
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,920
are withdrawing their stories.

849
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,280
-It was a symbol of North
Korea's human rights abuses,

850
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,320
but the defector now admits
not everything was true.

851
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,200
-I'm sure there may be
somebody who may have

852
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,680
embellished their story.

853
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,120
But I know there's a lot
of self-policing among the
defectors.

854
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Because they know, they know
that the only way this issue

855
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,880
is either going to get the attention
is they are credible.

856
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,440
We wanted to live as humans.

857
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,160
None of our investigations
have been disqualified as false.

858
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,400
We have been criticized
as an organization.

859
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,560
You can find in so many reports,

860
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,240
even in their official budget,

861
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,240
that they are receiving so much
money from governments,

862
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,040
which they are supposed
not to do.

863
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,520
-North Korea says
that universal human

864
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,080
rights is propaganda.

865
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,320
What they call human rights

866
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,400
is the globalization of capitalism.

867
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,760
These organizations are used

868
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,840
to infiltrate other countries

869
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,280
to impose the American way of life

870
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,040
and the American politics.

871
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,600
What they call human rights

872
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,080
is not the human right
to have shelter,

873
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,080
to have food
to have water,

874
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,000
to have education;
it's not that.

875
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,280
Because USA is the first country

876
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,520
that never accomplishes
that kind of human rights.

877
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,920
-If you call that propaganda,
I call it universal human rights.

878
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Ideally, if the North Korean
government had nothing to hide,

879
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,960
they should allow the entrance
of international agencies.

880
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,720
That's the point.

881
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,120
You will never open
the door to your house

882
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,120
to a person who has been
insulting your father,

883
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:40,520
insulting you

884
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,000
and threatening you,

885
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,360
and sanctioning you.

886
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,400
If you don't know something,

887
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,520
if for you the DPRK
is a black hole,

888
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,600
you say: "I don't know
anything about DPRK.

889
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,480
It's such a misterious country.

890
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,320
It's a secret country."
Ok! That's fine! It's true!

891
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,640
It's a secret country
you can say that.

892
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,680
It's a fortress.

893
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,840
We are very much
protecting our system.

894
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,960
Tell me the lie

895
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,840
that angers you the most.

896
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,880
The lie that angers me the most
will be probably

897
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,160
that our Korean people
my comrades,

898
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,680
they are forced
to believe in our system.

899
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Like there was someone,

900
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,560
one soldier with one machine gun
pointing at each one of our
citizens,

901
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,840
to force them
to follow our system.

902
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,600
(Music)

903
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,160
The figure of the leader
is the father.

904
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,680
It's not a dictatorship
like many Western people lie

905
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,200
and believe in that kind
of missinformation.

906
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,800
He is, as a father
giving precious instructions

907
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,000
and giving his life
for the welfare of the people.

908
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,920
And then the people
also show their love to him

909
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,320
by accepting him as a father.

910
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,000
That's why we always
call ourselves family,

911
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,120
even if we are not
from the same family.

912
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,760
But being comrades
and having the same leader...

913
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,760
We help each other,
in everything.

914
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,320
That's the feeling:
a big community.

915
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,320
Do the people in North Korea

916
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,440
have the same feeling

917
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,360
for the leader Kim Il-sung
as for the others?

918
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,040
We've never thought

919
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,200
our President Kim Il-sung
did much more

920
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,640
and General Kim Jong-il did little.

921
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,480
No, all things are the same
all achievements are great,

922
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:42,240
and the way he did
is the way the General did

923
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,040
and is the way that
Marshal Kim Jong-un is doing.

924
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,360
So, for Marshal Kim Jong-un
you have the same love as...

925
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,080
Yes, we have the same love
because we...

926
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,840
just lost our beloved fathers...,

927
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,760
so, we even love them
with more passion...

928
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,400
Just thinking of our fathers
you know, it's just...

929
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,920
Later I can explain it.

930
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,960
-Tonight an 11-day period
of mourning is underway

931
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,960
for Kim Jong-il,
the dictator who died Saturday.

932
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,600
And we were struck by images
from inside the Hermit Kingdom

933
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,440
showing grief-stricken
North Koreans in despair,

934
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,040
wailing uncontrollably.

935
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,320
But is all that emotion real
or is there a bit of both?

936
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,240
He is just like a father taking
care,

937
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,640
but not just taking care of a son
he takes care of all society.

938
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,400
He kind of adopted
the whole society.

939
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,600
God cannot die.

940
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,640
Nobody believed it when we were told
the person we considered God

941
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,840
had died.

942
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,320
I could not accept it as truth.

943
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:06,760
It was very emotional
for the people, everyone was crying.

944
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,160
I cried a lot.

945
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,000
It affected me a lot.

946
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,920
That's why all the people
cry on the streets.

947
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:20,920
How can it be?

948
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,640
People cannot understand,

949
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Is it a theatre?
It's not a theatre.

950
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,960
This is an insult.

951
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,840
And when you live so far away,
and the culture is so different,

952
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,720
for Western people
it will be hard to understand.

953
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,440
But you cannot really try
to feel the same

954
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,960
that Korean people feel

955
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,760
but you can
by talking to the people,

956
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,680
see that it's a true feeling.

957
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,400
We haven't really gotten

958
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,720
any deep knowledge or understanding
of the philosophy or the ideology.

959
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,200
We get a lot of information
from Alejandro,

960
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,800
very deep thoughts
and very clear theories,

961
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,920
of eveything that lies behind it,

962
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,680
but no North Korean
will tell us anything about it.

963
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,920
So we have to rely
on what Alejandro is telling us,

964
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,480
and at the end
he is not really a North Korean,

965
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,120
even though he has been
coming and going

966
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,040
with foreign visitors
for the last 20 years,

967
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,360
that doesn't make you
a North Korean.

968
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,680
(Music)

969
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,400
It became a sort of tradition
or custom,

970
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,560
to visit every year
this flower festival.

971
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,000
And you see here
this flower is Kimilsungia

972
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,840
-This one is Kimilsungia?
-Yes. You didn't know?

973
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,440
Look around the whole festival.

974
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,320
This flower is called after his
name.

975
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,960
It's cultivated in Indonesia.

976
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,120
And the Indonesian president
Sukarno,

977
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,000
he asked our President
Kim Il-sung

978
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,440
to name this flower
after his name

979
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,600
as a sign of respect towards
our Generalissimo Kim Il-sung.

980
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,320
Why wouldn't we be happy today?

981
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Our country
and all the citizens of the world

982
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,520
are celebrating our Great Leader.

983
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,160
One has to understand
the North Korean system

984
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:30,280
and its propaganda are based
on a strong epic national history.

985
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,840
Its foundation is real
and incredibly strong.

986
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,960
A leader,

987
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:41,200
especially a kind of absolute leader
in a monarchy,

988
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,240
is usually seen

989
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,760
as a god.

990
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,680
Ideology has always been,
in communist countries,

991
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,320
a substitute for religion.

992
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,200
-They've taken a lot of imagery
from the New Testament.

993
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,960
I think it's part of the reason

994
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,480
that Christianity
is such a taboo in North Korea.

995
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,040
They have their stars
when Kim Jong-il was born

996
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,560
and double rainbows
and all of this.

997
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,680
It's kind of a rip-off of the bible.

998
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,360
-Many cultures in Asia
have that tradition.

999
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,200
It's feudalism, in essence.

1000
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:17,160
The feudal lords ruled over
the subjects basically.

1001
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,760
And this is a continuation of that.

1002
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,280
Visiting a church was not
on the itinerary,

1003
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,640
but I told them I was a Christian
and wanted to attend mass.

1004
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,040
After plenty of phone calls,
we finally got permission.

1005
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,680
(Congregation singing)

1006
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,040
This idea that people have

1007
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,000
that people are being executed
for being Christians.

1008
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,520
I want to know about this.

1009
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Of course,
you can see it by yourself.

1010
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,040
So, the traditional religions
in North Korea

1011
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,160
are Christian;

1012
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,760
among Christians we have Catholics
like this church;

1013
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,880
we have also Protestant church,

1014
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,240
and then we have Buddishm
which is also an ancient religion,

1015
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,720
and they have their rights;

1016
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,120
and they have the Cheondoism
the Cheondogyo,

1017
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,000
which is traditional
to the Korean culture.

1018
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,480
But our government doesn't allow
new religions

1019
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,200
like Scientology
or Jehovah's Witnesses,

1020
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,760
religions that, in many cases
are politically influenced,

1021
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,440
or carry a heavy weight
in cultural invasion,

1022
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,560
rather than just pure philosophy,

1023
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,360
are not tolerated in the DPRK.

1024
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,080
Inside a state like this,

1025
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,440
competitors are not allowed.

1026
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,000
Any religion that could work there

1027
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,720
should be submitted to the state.

1028
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,720
Therefore,

1029
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,240
if any political idea that differs
from that of the regime

1030
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,440
or any suspicion

1031
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,800
that you are not loyal to the regime
is punished,

1032
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,200
I don't see why religion
should be any different.

1033
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:19,760
As you know,
freedom of cult dictates

1034
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,200
that beliefs cannot be imposed.

1035
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:27,720
Everybody has the right and the
freedom to be a believer or not.

1036
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,480
The Westerners
appear to be very virtuous

1037
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,320
however they have malice.

1038
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
They think theirs is religion,

1039
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,240
but not ours.

1040
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:40,600
It's contradictory

1041
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,840
that now they speak about
our religion in this manner.

1042
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:51,320
After all, they brought
Christianism to North Korea.

1043
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,760
This church

1044
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:59,400
was built for this purpose with
the blessing of Pope John Paul II.

1045
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,000
Our religions were removed
when the Juche ideology was built.

1046
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,480
But there is a church
in Pyongyang

1047
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,560
where the regime can assure
the other countries

1048
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,440
that we have freedom of religion.

1049
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:25,000
But it's just propaganda,
for foreigners,

1050
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,800
not a real church.

1051
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,480
Whoy did you not give communion?

1052
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,280
We can give communion

1053
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,320
but today the priest
wasn't available.

1054
01:09:37,480 --> 01:09:40,720
That's why we have celebrated
a mass without Eucharist.

1055
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,320
Because, he's not the priest?

1056
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,960
-It's a lie.
There's no freedom of thought,

1057
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,320
and there's absolutely
no freedom of religion.

1058
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,480
And the fact that they've made
these fake churches

1059
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,520
there to try to give
that illusion... it's a lie.

1060
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,480
And North Koreans that have escaped

1061
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,000
who are Christians
will tell you it is a lie.

1062
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,960
Even though they have these...

1063
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,960
it's just a fake, pretend thing.

1064
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,080
I should have guessed
something was wrong:

1065
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,320
this was the only place
in North Korea

1066
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,640
where people did not wear
the pin of the leader.

1067
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,440
It was also surprising
that everybody sang so well.

1068
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,760
Some of my prisoners
were imprisoned

1069
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,000
because they were opposed
to the Kim Il-sung system

1070
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,040
but a lot of them were imprisoned

1071
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,600
because they interacted
with Christianity,

1072
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,240
or contacted someone
in South Korea.

1073
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,880
Kenneth Bae was sentenced
in April to 15 years in

1074
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,320
a labour camp
for what the regime calls

1075
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,280
'hostile acts to bring down
the government'.

1076
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,680
Wonderful, we have a freedom
of Christianity

1077
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,840
but if you try to bring bibles
to our country you are a criminal.

1078
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,600
Any contradiction do you see?

1079
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,080
There are some people in
Christianity, like in many
religions,

1080
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,120
that are crazy:

1081
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,600
they believe God sent them
for a mission

1082
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,040
and that they can go, you know,

1083
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,400
and evangelize and bring
the word of Jesus,

1084
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,080
according to them,
to all the countries in the world.

1085
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,880
This doesn't sound
like a very smart move.

1086
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,080
Again, we don't care about what
move!

1087
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,200
We don't care about
what USA thinks!

1088
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,640
We continue our revolution.

1089
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,360
When will you understand
that in this country

1090
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,200
we don't care how many sanctions
or how much pressure;

1091
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,000
we don't live for the others
we live for ourselves, okay?

1092
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,160
So, understand that

1093
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,440
no matter how much pressure
no matter how much bad publicity,

1094
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,360
we do as we believe.

1095
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,840
He is a criminal
he entered illegally in the country,

1096
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,560
he tried to undermine our system,
so he was judged and sentenced.

1097
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,760
And now it's his time
to pay that sentence.

1098
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,760
That's why we don't release him.

1099
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,280
That's why no matter
what they offer us,

1100
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,400
we are not going to release that
person.

1101
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,800
-Kenneth Bae and Matthew Todd
Miller, two Americans

1102
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,960
who have held in North Korea,

1103
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
stunning news this morning.

1104
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,400
Out of nowhere,
they are coming home.

1105
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,440
So I just want to say thank you all
for supporting me, lifting me up,

1106
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,760
and not forgetting me.

1107
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,520
At the same time also not forgetting
the people of North Korea.

1108
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,280
(Music)

1109
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,760
There are some stores where people
can buy with local currency

1110
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:02,080
and some stores where
they use hard currency.

1111
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:03,040
And, this one?

1112
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,520
In this one we use hard currency.

1113
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,200
And how do North Koreans
get hard currency?

1114
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:11,680
Many ways, for instance,

1115
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,160
we go abroad

1116
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,400
and when we work
in the embassies

1117
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,560
we receive our salaries
in hard currency.

1118
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,520
But it seems that this is more aimed

1119
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,200
for the local people
than for the tourists...

1120
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,760
Why?

1121
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,120
Lots of tourists also visit.

1122
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,960
-Around the time of the collapse

1123
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,720
of the Soviet Block,
North Korea went into something

1124
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,440
of a downward spiral.

1125
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,960
They were getting a lot of aid
from the former Soviet Union.

1126
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,120
Since the collapse of the Soviet
Union

1127
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,280
the trade between
Russia and North Korea

1128
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,000
dramatically reduced.

1129
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,960
-I think the first thing
that happened

1130
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,360
is they ran short of energy,
and a lot of the factories closed.

1131
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,640
And when the factories closed
they had no money

1132
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,600
to buy raw ingredients.

1133
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:10,200
The socialist economic system
of North Korea collapsed.

1134
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:13,840
It was a system
wherein the government

1135
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,880
would provide the people
a stipend and food rations

1136
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,040
but when the North Korean economy
fell, it ceased to be sustainable.

1137
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,160
-They got hungry, productivity
went down, down, down,

1138
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,560
and the economy really went
into a death spiral.

1139
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,960
-Very large numbers of people
from the 1990s

1140
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,280
have starved to death
as a result of the inadequacy

1141
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:41,480
of the response
of the government and authorities

1142
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,400
in North Korea to what they call
'the Arduous March',

1143
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,120
the great famine of the 1990s.

1144
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,440
-People started with
their own ingenuity to find ways

1145
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,640
to make money.

1146
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,120
They started informal markets,
which were mostly illegal,

1147
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,240
but the thing was
they had to feed themselves.

1148
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,080
What about this critic that says

1149
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,800
there is an underground capitalist

1150
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,000
or individually driven economy?

1151
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,240
No, not at all.

1152
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,960
For instance, you can see
many posts in the street

1153
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,840
selling ice cream,
selling water.

1154
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,040
It's a sub-branch
of one of our restaurants,

1155
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,960
under one of our ministries.

1156
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,000
The problem
is that people don't ask.

1157
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,520
They just take the picture
and start to speculate and invent,

1158
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,280
and specially use for propaganda
against the country,

1159
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:34,880
to try to make us look
like we have a double standard

1160
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,960
that on one hand we say
we are socialist or communist

1161
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,080
but on the other we allow
these kinds of shops in the street

1162
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,840
selling ice cream.
Well, all of them are state-owned.

1163
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,240
-Kim Jong-il said repeatedly
markets breed egotism

1164
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,800
and egotism is
the death of socialism.

1165
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,320
He saw that correctly.

1166
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:59,040
And when the food situation
improved a little,

1167
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,040
they tried to close the markets.

1168
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,880
But they couldn't close
the markets because

1169
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,200
people had started thinking
for themselves.

1170
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,560
I never saw any signs
of a black market economy

1171
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,480
despite the numerous reports that
claim that the country depends on
it.

1172
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,360
This cooperative farm
was built in the 1950's

1173
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:35,640
but has been recently restored.

1174
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,960
In all our farms we follow
the Juche principle

1175
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:46,600
that we must be self-sufficient.

1176
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,480
When Kim Jong-un suddenly
became the leader of the country,

1177
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,360
he was surrounded
by his father's officials,

1178
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,840
who were very old people

1179
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,640
with their ideas of how
the country should be run.

1180
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,480
-The next story
is not for the weak of stomach.

1181
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,240
A Chinese newspaper says
the uncle of North Korean

1182
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,560
leader Kim Jong-un
was eaten alive by a pack

1183
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,560
of ravenous dogs
during his execution last year.

1184
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,960
The paper says
Kim and his brother observed

1185
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,560
the one-hour ordeal,
along with about

1186
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,040
300 other officials.

1187
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,160
-He was executed
in a very... unusual way.

1188
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,040
He was dragged out of the front row

1189
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,520
of the Politburo
and taken off to a show trial

1190
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,960
before a military tribunal.

1191
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,400
Which constantly interrupted
and denounced him,

1192
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,000
and he was dead within four days.

1193
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,480
-The story about Jang Song-thaek
being fed to the dogs

1194
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,960
was actually started
by a Chinese microblogger

1195
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,880
who kind of wrote it as a joke,
and then people

1196
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,000
repeated it and it became...
you know,

1197
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,400
sort of this urban legend
that most people believe.

1198
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,840
There's no evidence that Jang
Song-thaek was fed to the dogs.

1199
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,840
-Well, it's incredible.

1200
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,720
The sad part is

1201
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,440
that many people
found it believable.

1202
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,400
To the outside world the message
is 'I am in charge.

1203
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,640
Don't mistake that anybody else'...

1204
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,800
because for many months before
his execution,

1205
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,560
people thought that he was
the number two in power.

1206
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,360
It was kind of common expectation,

1207
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,040
that in a few years' time,
Kim Jong-un would remove

1208
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,240
dignitaries and top officials
from his father's era,

1209
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,520
and would replace them with young
or at least different people.

1210
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,800
This is exactly what happened.

1211
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,480
Nobody thought that
it would happen so fast

1212
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,920
and in such a dramatic manner.

1213
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,240
Sometimes it's the king
who gets killed,

1214
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:57,200
but more frequently
it's the regent.

1215
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,640
A wicked political careerist,
trickster and traitor of all ages,

1216
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,440
Jang Song-thaek was condemned

1217
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,640
in the name of the Revolution
and the People.

1218
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:12,040
Until then, we thought of him
as a patriot,

1219
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,200
as the most loyal person
to our Generalissimo.

1220
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,080
That's why all the Korean people
were shocked

1221
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:21,320
at this news.

1222
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,160
So we thought that
he would be near our Marshal,

1223
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,440
assist him in many affairs,

1224
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:35,240
but, it was so sudden for us
to find out his treachery.

1225
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,480
It's not only treachery
to our Generalissimo

1226
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,480
to our Marshal Kim Jong-un,

1227
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,200
it's treachery to the whole
Korean people.

1228
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,160
So that's why we couldn't
be patient about it.

1229
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,400
-Were you angry?
-Yes, of course.

1230
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,120
-Everybody?
-Everybody.

1231
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,600
When we went to the North Korean TV
to get archive footage,

1232
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,640
they told us they needed to erase

1233
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,160
the traitor Jang Song-thaek first.

1234
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,480
(Cheering/Applause)

1235
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,720
Some people have mentioned
that he was corrupted by the
Chinese.

1236
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,000
Have you heard about this?

1237
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,080
-Yeah, I think that's
the indirect accusation.

1238
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:23,280
-The uncle is believed
to be an advocate

1239
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:25,560
of Chinese style reform.

1240
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,640
His uncle has been
very instrumental in pursuing

1241
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,880
relations with China,
including trade

1242
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,640
and economic ties with China.

1243
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,640
When Mao died the Chinese Government
made a huge decision,

1244
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,520
they reformed the old system
and tried something new.

1245
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,920
A major feature
of the new system was

1246
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,320
to introduce more market
based mechanism into the old system.

1247
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:57,080
China gradually realized
that private economy

1248
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,360
is very important for China.

1249
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,640
China also made this reform
that communist society countries

1250
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,120
can allow the private economy
to serve for these countries.

1251
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,800
China changed!

1252
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,160
Mao was betrayed
by their own comrades!

1253
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,680
Stalin was betrayed
by their own comrades!

1254
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:17,640
Vietnam, a country
that suffered so much

1255
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,280
under U.S. invasion
is now a full capitalist country!

1256
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,400
So, could it happen tomorrow
to North Korea? Yes.

1257
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,240
They are humans also.

1258
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,880
One day, the poison of capitalism
could enter this country,

1259
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,600
in 50 or 100 years.

1260
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:38,240
(Clicking)

1261
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,520
We are going to ask Alejandro:
how come

1262
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,000
a Coca-Cola
sign got into North Korea?

1263
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,280
Oh, really?

1264
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,880
Oh!

1265
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,480
Yes, yes.

1266
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,320
This has an easy explanation.

1267
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,120
Normally, we don't have enough
fridges by national production,

1268
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,840
so we import them from China.

1269
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,560
And then, from China
it comes already branded like that.

1270
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:14,600
Someone like that is always useful.
It is such a closed regime,

1271
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,880
that now have found someone

1272
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,880
who facilitates for them
coming in and out.

1273
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,960
Obviously there is money involved,

1274
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,600
he facilitates the entrance
of hard currency...

1275
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:27,880
We still have many problems.

1276
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:28,880
We know that.

1277
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,560
We are working on that
I myself play my role,

1278
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,360
to try to improve it
by bringing more foreign investment,

1279
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,800
bringing more technology,

1280
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,760
and teaching our state companies

1281
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,160
how to be more efficient.

1282
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,920
So we are at the University,

1283
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,520
which seems brand new.

1284
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,400
Everything is just
like out of the box.

1285
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,720
And curiously, all of the computers
are Hewlett-Packard.

1286
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,160
-And where did you buy this?
-That's a secret.

1287
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:08,720
(Laughing)

1288
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:10,400
That's a secret.

1289
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,640
Otherwise Americans will know
how we go around the blockade.

1290
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,240
The blockade is useless.

1291
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,280
Useless embargo.

1292
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,560
He is a fantastic tool
for propaganda.

1293
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,280
He is a Westerner who goes there,

1294
01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:29,560
who puts on his uniform
with all his medals,

1295
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,160
and he sings to Kim Jong-il,

1296
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,600
he sings to Kim Il-sung,

1297
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,400
And he knows it by heart...

1298
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:36,880
He's a great asset!

1299
01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:42,720
You know, I have been living during
the times of the Arduous March.

1300
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,000
I came to the Motherland, I know

1301
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,120
what was our situation
back then, in the '90s.

1302
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,360
So hard,

1303
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,080
we didn't have anything.

1304
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:55,240
But, after witnessing
the transformation of the Republic

1305
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,080
under our Marshal Kim Jong-un,

1306
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:58,800
I was so surprised.

1307
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,560
These centres, our Republic
are becoming the envy of the world.

1308
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,320
So if we show them in DPRK,

1309
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,000
how is this country,

1310
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,160
they want to live like in DPRK.

1311
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,880
When I go to talk
to the universities, in Spain,

1312
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,640
many times to give a conference,

1313
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,760
more than 500 people,

1314
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,800
600 people come to hear me

1315
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:24,880
and then I talk.

1316
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,640
Why and how we develop
our socialist system.

1317
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,560
And they become very interested
and followers

1318
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,280
of our great leaders.

1319
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,760
So we could say that DPRK

1320
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,440
is becoming
the centre of the world.

1321
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,200
You are really lucky!

1322
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:45,720
(Laughing)

1323
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,280
He dresses as Superman,
he acts like Superman,

1324
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,720
he believes he is Superman,
but he isn't.

1325
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,440
That's it. That's Alejandro.

1326
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:58,640
(Music)

1327
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,960
(Speaking Korean)

1328
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,320
-Today he made it.
-Beautiful.

1329
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:27,680
-Thank you.

1330
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:28,960
-Very nice.

1331
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,520
(Music)

1332
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,600
I still have so many questions...

1333
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,880
Who benefits from the status quo?

1334
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,640
What will the future bring
for these people?

1335
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,960
And again
where is the money coming from?

1336
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,520
(Music)

1337
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,600
-People always ask me
why North Korea still exists,

1338
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,960
and I think it exists because
nobody wants it to collapse.

1339
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,000
The Chinese keep it going
because they like

1340
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,920
having a communist ally buffer zone
on their border.

1341
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,600
The Chinese policy
consists of maintaining

1342
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,840
its complicated
North Korean ally alive.

1343
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:44,080
-Making North Korea reliant
on China helps China keep

1344
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,120
that Korea card in their hands.

1345
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,080
America, you need me
to deal with North Korea.

1346
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,400
China's main priority
is the development of its country

1347
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,800
the last thing they need
is conflict.

1348
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,680
-It's also destabilizing
for China to be worrying

1349
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,920
about a nuclear North Korea.

1350
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,440
The Chinese do not want

1351
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,880
the regime to fall,

1352
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,320
because they don't want to have
American soldiers at their border.

1353
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:22,960
-I believe that they fear
that having a unified Korea

1354
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,400
will harm China.

1355
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,720
But it won't.

1356
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,200
It will actually be
a benefit to China.

1357
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,200
Because they won't have
to worry about

1358
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,000
this dictatorship that they're
constantly having to bail out,

1359
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,680
that who knows
what Kim Jong-un is going to do.

1360
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:42,600
So I think the Chinese Government
have lots of frustration

1361
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,440
about what is going on
in North Korea.

1362
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:53,880
-And, in a way, that's part
of the China-US kind of rivalry

1363
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:54,800
in the region.

1364
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,680
It's not ready to give this away
we want something in return.

1365
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,440
China is the enemy
of the United States.

1366
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,520
And what the U.S. want is obviously

1367
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:11,680
to maintain its position in Asia
and that part of the Pacific,

1368
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,640
and not to have
their power contested.

1369
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,920
United States is probably
the only pro-unification country.

1370
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,600
But I would not bet on that
because if the country is unified

1371
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,280
it would be difficult to justify

1372
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,880
the presence
of the U.S. forces in Korea.

1373
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:38,560
The United States
can continue to sell weapons

1374
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,400
to South Korea and to Japan.

1375
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,600
Russia doesn't want a unified Korea,

1376
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,000
which would strengthen
the American position in the region.

1377
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,560
Let's assume a unified Korea
will be essentially

1378
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,480
an enlarged version of South Korea.

1379
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,440
-The Japanese keep it going
because they are afraid

1380
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,040
of the economic and military power
of a united Korea.

1381
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,280
South Korea doesn't want unification

1382
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,360
because they'll have to pay for it.

1383
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,080
And it's going to be absolutely,
unbelievably expensive.

1384
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,240
-If the North Korean regime
collapses,

1385
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,960
you're talking about the billions
of dollars it's going to cost

1386
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,120
the South Korean economy.

1387
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,080
And it kind of scares South Koreans.

1388
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,040
But the longer they're separated,
the longer

1389
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,840
this continues, the greater
that cost is going to be.

1390
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,520
Of all the major international
players,

1391
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,920
the majority wants status quo.

1392
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,160
-I think the only ones
who really want it

1393
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,560
to collapse
are the North Korean people.

1394
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,200
They do want it to collapse.

1395
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,440
But they don't have much say
in the matter.

1396
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,800
-You're talking here about
23 million people

1397
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,920
who are suffering
and have suffered for 65 years

1398
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,040
and more grievous crimes
against humanity.

1399
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:54,920
The victims of the status quo
are the vast majority

1400
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,000
of the North Koreans

1401
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,320
however who does care about them?

1402
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:59,560
Nobody.

1403
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:03,440
(Music)

1404
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,560
Propaganda serves
as a diversion from the truth,

1405
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,040
we are all victims of propaganda.
The Governments and the Media

1406
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,400
are constantly submitting us
to manipulation

1407
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,960
and the only tool
we have against it is information.

1408
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,520
But the truth is...

1409
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,280
It's hard to tell what is the truth,
and I don't think we'll ever know.

1410
01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:29,160
But whether we like it or not,
whether we know it or not,

1411
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,720
we are all part of the game.

1412
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,520
North Korea is indescribable

1413
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,560
no humans deserve to be oppressed

1414
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,440
just because of their birthplace.

1415
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,280
We need to focus less on the regime

1416
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,080
and more on the people
who are being forgotten.

1417
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:59,360
One Young World,

1418
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,840
we are the ones
who will make them visible.

1419
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,520
(News segments playing)

1420
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,760
(Music)