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[FLUTE FOLK MUSIC PLAYING ]

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[MUSIC CONTINUES]

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SPORTS Comments:
Republic of Ireland
against Italy

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in this group
final round World Cup. </ P>

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I will say the biggest day

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in the Irish international
football history,

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The Giants Stadium
is filled up to capacity.

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Lots of Irish proof,

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and it's clear here to enjoy
a nice day...

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[MUSIC CONTINUE]

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If you look around
the Colosseum,
full of Ireland...

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... we have to accept it
atmosphere. </ P>

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[CONTINUE -MENERUS]

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[ALL cheering]

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Ini Italia nihil, Irlandia satu.

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[MUSIC CONTINUE]

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That's far
Costacurta.

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Donadoni Roberto, Donadoni...

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[BAGPIP PLAYING]

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>

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[BIRD CHIRPING]

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[THUDS]

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[STREAM GUSHING]

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[MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING]

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[CROW CAWS]

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EMMA ROGAN: I remember
being at my aunt's house. </ P>

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She lived in Downpatrick,
not too far from here,

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about eight or nine miles,
on Sunday morning.

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I was upstairs at his house
in bed, sleeping,

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and woke up
from my sleep

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to enter the room for Tony,
for my brother,

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and we were told together.

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I always remember < br /> my two uncles were there,

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a big, heavy long coat.

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I remember thinking,

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first of all,
why are they here

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and why they use it
A big heavy coat?

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[STAMMERS] That's June.

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It was summer,
why did they use
a big coat?

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And I just remember
Mother said to us

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that bad guys have
come to the pub

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and they... 
have weapons

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and they shoot six people
and Daddy is dead.

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He has died.

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Nothing I know 
has died before,

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so I really don't know what
is going on.

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CLAIRE ROGAN:
We just returned home </ p >

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from Spain while on vacation

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and my husband came down
here to watch the game.

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So I went down to join him
around 10 o'clock past 10:00 o'clock.

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And when I went down,

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I met a local man
at the door and he said,

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"Don't go in there,
there have been shootings."

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And for some reason
I think

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there are some boys
around here

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will come out and
shoot rabbits or whatever

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and I think someone
goes go there with a gun

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and it goes
accidentally.

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And he says,
"No, no, don't enter.

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"This is terrible,
we need a priest. "

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So I entered.

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And...

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what will greet me
haunt me until the day I die.

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Only the body
lies everywhere.

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It smells,
The smoke is prolonged,

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the glass breaks.

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I can't see it, I can't.
I have to go, </ p >

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I have to run out,
I can't.

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GREEN ACNE:
* Good night to you <br / > One and all

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* Good luck to you I will say

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* I just came here
To sing for youse

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* Before I go

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MOIRA CASE: Barney used to be
famous character,

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with a pipe and
her rosy cheeks.

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She cheerful.

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ALEX GIBNEY: Night
the massacre happened,

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where are you,
what are you doing?

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Some things
I remember,

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but many blurred.

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It was like...

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Oh, that's horrendous.

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The parish priest
came,

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and we know that

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that Barney...

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for sure...

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is dead.

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[DOG DOGS]
[LAUGHS MAN]

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[AIDAN O & apos; TOOLE SPEAKING]

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GIBNEY:
Did you see something?

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No.

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[SPEAKING]

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And...

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p>

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[SOLEMN MUSIC PLAYING]

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[BRENDAN VALENTINE SPEAKING]

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You know, neighbors
here don't exist...

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There is no problem at all. </ P>

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To come to this community
is not real. </ P>

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It's as simple as that. </ P>

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The Troubles are something 
that happened in Belfast.

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Yes, we realized they were

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you know,
people lose their lives,

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but that's something
that never touches us

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and we never, 
for a minute think

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that we will have
to live through it.

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Brutal, inhuman, barbaric,
heartless massacre,

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some words used
today to describe

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overnight cruelty
by Loyalist terrorists

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in a pub in County Down.

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>

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Bar O & Apos; Toole is located a few
half a mile from the main line

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Belfast to the Newcastle road
in Loughinisland.

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This is a relatively small bar
in remote rural areas.

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NEWS REPORTER 1:
Massacre in Loughinisland,

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when they watched the World Cup
on television.

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Six people died.

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NEWS REPORTER 2:
Gunmen from
Forbidden Loyalist groups,

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Ulster Volunteer Force,

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walk to Bar Heights
and spray it with shots

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from automatic
assault rifles .

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The attack is over
in seconds.

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NEWS REPORTER 3: All six people
who died were Catholics.

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The oldest, Barney Green,
is 87. </ P>

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His niece, Dan McCreanor,
who is 59 years old, died with him. </ P>

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Other victims are 
/> father of four children, Eamon Byrne,

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father of three children,
Malcolm Jenkinson,

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father of two children,
Adrian Brogan,

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and single men
Patrick O & apos; Hare.

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MAN: The body is stacked
on top of each other.

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Only under
contempt the people

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who can carry out
such things this.

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It's just a nightmare
after that.
Um...

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Then there is a whole
grieving process

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and funeral.

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NEWS REPORTER: Protestants
and Catholics walk together

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as hearses
bring Adrian Rogan,

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victim first
buried,

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passed the Heights Pub
in Loughinisland,

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where six people
were killed.

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IMAM: That
very plain way

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spend a few hours

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in a friend's company,

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debating the progress of
the game,

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happy at the destination.

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EMMA: I remember
walking behind the funeral,

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and my grandmother
has my hand.

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Loughinisland,
this is a knitting community that is close.

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I remember being...

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I guess, when
you are small, a child,

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it's like thousands of
people everywhere.

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SIR PATRICK MAYHEW: < br /> For those who have done this,

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those who have it
killed these people,

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my message to them is this.

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I think some of you
have a family. </ P>

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Let's just imagine
the future conversation

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that you might have
with your daughter,

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who asks you what you are doing
in the so-called war, Father.

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And you will say,
"I killed a 87-year-old man."

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He is sitting
behind me.

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He was watching
World Cup.

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I shot him dead.

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He won't think of it
a hero's note,
Will he ?

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Now, I want to say this
in the end,

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you will be
caught sooner or later.

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The RUC doesn't never give up.

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And you will be arrested,

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and you will spend
years in prison.

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Thank you very much.

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>

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CASEMENT: I have
a letter from the Queen...

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a letter from the Pope.

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This makes the world news.

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Former football great,
OJ Simpson,
and his lawyer,

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are preparing
tomorrow's charges

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on charges of multiple murders.

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Meanwhile,
police in Northern Ireland

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after the worst violence
there in a few months.

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The men killed six people
as they watched

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the Irish World Cup
match ball.

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CLAIRE: I think
the police can't let this go.

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I mean, the eye
the world is with them,

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they must be seen
do the right thing here.

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I clearly remember
the police came
into the wake.

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Some of them really will do it
already know my husband.

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I will never forget
their words.

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"We will go
no there is a stone missing

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Until we get this culprit
. "

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And those words ring
in my ear to this day,

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because I don't think
they ever lift stones,

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it doesn't matter to change it.

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GIBNEY:
More than 20 years
after the massacre,

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Bar Heights
is still in business.

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p>

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The bar has been rebuilt,

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but Aidan O & apos; Toole,
the man shot in the kidney,

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still pouring Guinness
for local farmers

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I first came here
to make a short film

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about World Cup matches,

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but I was haunted
by the story
Unresolved murders.

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Why is this pub?
Why is this village?

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What is in the heart
mystery

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the victim's family
is trying to solve?

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I have moved
by their search,

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even as I know
they are not alone .

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[MUSIC ROCK PLAYING]

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[PEOPLE EXCLAIMING]

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GIBNEY:
For almost 50 years,

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Northern Ireland has
haunted

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with what it is known simply
as Troubles.

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It's fair to say that
the origin of the Problem
in 1922,

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the year of Ireland > declare its independence
from Great Britain.

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As part of the agreement,

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Ireland is divided
into two parts.

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Republic of Ireland
and Northern Ireland,

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a province left
part of the United Kingdom.

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In the late 1960s,

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Northern Ireland
Tearing up.

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An embattled
Catholic minority,

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victims of law and
economic discrimination,

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seeking rights civil and
union with
Republic of Ireland.

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Against them stands
most Protestant
the majority who are called Loyalists,

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who want to remain
part of the United Kingdom.

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[EXPLOSION ]

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Overtime,
both sides descend
into a terrorist campaign,

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kill thousands of people
innocent civilians. </ p >

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[GUNFIRE]

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For Republicans,
the dominant power of
is IRA.

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For Loyalists, there are
a number of groups,

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including UVF,

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which will take
responsibility
for Loughinisland.

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[MAN SPEAKS]

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NOEL KILPATRICK: UVF,
when the Problem
started in 1968,

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when there was a riot
and houses were burned
on Shankill Street,

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they come forward,
as a kind of protector
of Protestants.

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The heartland will have
become Shankill Road,

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Belfast east,
north of Belfast, Portadown,

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it's definitely
more or less
centers for UVF.

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And they are engaged
in sectarian killings.

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So they will come out
and kill Catholics.

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The famous Shankill Butcher
is UVF.

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They come out and take it
innocent Catholics

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walk home at night < br /> and cut their necks,

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tortured them
and killed them.

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They talked about soldiers in
Ulster Volunteer Power.

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They are not soldiers.

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They are people who come out
and kill innocent people.

248
00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:09,162
GIBNEY: You are involved
in paramilitary activities

249
00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:11,164
back to the 80s
and you were in prison.

250
00:17:11,198 --> 00:17:13,266
What were you?
in prison for?

251
00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,336
I was in prison for 
/> become a UVF activist

252
00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:18,705
and get involved
in murder.

253
00:17:22,809 --> 00:17:24,344
I am from
an environment

254
00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:27,314
known as
Shankill in Belfast. </ P>

255
00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:30,083
And I think it's
historical significance,

256
00:17:30,117 --> 00:17:31,651
and the best way
to describe it

257
00:17:31,684 --> 00:17:34,354
is that true 
a pro-British community.

258
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:37,390
Quite a lot of people
when I grew up

259
00:17:37,424 --> 00:17:39,492
joined the British Army
and went and fought

260
00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:42,162
in conflicts
around the world.

261
00:17:42,195 --> 00:17:44,697
So there is a strong
relationship with England

262
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:47,600
and with the royal family.

263
00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:48,968
The majority of them will do it
has become a Protestant,

264
00:17:49,001 --> 00:17:52,539
but there are Catholics
living in my neighborhood
so too.

265
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:56,609
IRA violence at that time
Shankill where I live.

266
00:17:56,643 --> 00:17:57,944
I have watched retirees,

267
00:17:57,977 --> 00:18:00,680
I have watched
an 18 month old baby
blown out of the baby stroller

268
00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:01,848
by careless bombs. </ P>

269
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:03,816
[HARD EXPLOSION]

270
00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:05,652
People are being killed on the way.

271
00:18:06,819 --> 00:18:08,388
KILPATRICK:
their IRA, at the beginning of

272
00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:09,889
only
a group of assassins.

273
00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:12,625
Really that is the lust of blood.

274
00:18:12,659 --> 00:18:15,762
They generally leave afterwards
soldiers and police,

275
00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:18,698
but they do it
sectarian killings too.

276
00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:21,801
Usually a tit for tat.

277
00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:23,303
If a Protestant is
shot dead one night,

278
00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:25,238
then a Catholic < br /> shoot the next die,

279
00:18:25,272 --> 00:18:27,140
and it just goes away
forward and backward and
backwards and forwards.

280
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,211
Unfortunately there are
people waiting in line

281
00:18:31,244 --> 00:18:33,913
on the second side to join
become an armed man.

282
00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:36,483
Young children come together
and see these people

283
00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:37,650
walk down the road,

284
00:18:37,684 --> 00:18:39,519
These great people who think
they are the knees of the bees.

285
00:18:39,552 --> 00:18:40,953
"I want to be like him."

286
00:18:40,987 --> 00:18:43,290
So there is no
lack of people < br /> want to pull the trigger.

287
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:48,528
For a while I work
in the world of intelligence,

288
00:18:48,561 --> 00:18:51,498
especially in relation to
for Loyalist terrorism.

289
00:18:51,531 --> 00:18:54,334
Previously I was served
in west Belfast,

290
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:56,569
that might be
the most dangerous place
in the province. </ P>

291
00:18:56,603 --> 00:18:59,672
Murders occur every day, 
every day.

292
00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:02,609
I think it's like
an adrenaline buzz.

293
00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:05,578
You come out every day
don't know what
will happen.

294
00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:17,890
GIBNEY: So, exactly why did
you decide to join
the police, RUC?

295
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:20,760
Um...

296
00:19:20,793 --> 00:19:23,896
I think it's because
it is a job for life.

297
00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:26,466
GIBNEY: Nothing there
a little the risk at that time

298
00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:27,834
in terms of being
on RUC?

299
00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:28,801
That's why I smile.

300
00:19:28,835 --> 00:19:30,503
This is a lifetime job
if you live long enough.

301
00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,572
[BOTH BOTH]

302
00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:37,510
There is an element of risk,
yes, there is a risk.

303
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:39,912
At that time I had <br / > personal
protection weapons.

304
00:19:39,946 --> 00:19:44,251
I also have a gun that
is stored beside the bed.

305
00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:47,254
I teach my wife
how to fire them together.

306
00:19:47,287 --> 00:19:48,988
Give him a strategy
that the rifle

307
00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,823
will be shot
down the stairs,

308
00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:52,992
and if it gets to the gun
we are in trouble.

309
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:56,263
As far as the attack
on the RUC is worried,

310
00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:59,366
it seems the IRA
justifies all that before

311
00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:00,900
by the accusation yesterday

312
00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:03,803
that the police were
torturing suspects.

313
00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:05,472
GIBNEY: To stop
increasing violence, </ p >

314
00:20:05,505 --> 00:20:07,974
the British government
deployed the Army.

315
00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:10,410
The IRA saw it
as an invasion,

316
00:20:10,443 --> 00:20:13,413
and the soldiers
were occupying troops.

317
00:20:13,446 --> 00:20:15,448
They also believe that
military members

318
00:20:15,482 --> 00:20:17,650
collaborate
with Loyalist gangs

319
00:20:17,684 --> 00:20:20,287
by offering access to
intelligence and weapons.

320
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,460
JOHN WARE: I arrived
in Northern Ireland

321
00:20:27,494 --> 00:20:30,897
as a young newspaper
reporter in 1974.

322
00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:33,600
I live in Belfast < br /> for three years

323
00:20:34,701 --> 00:20:40,373
when something
like 600 people died.

324
00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:44,711
In those days,
the Army was ahead
role in security.

325
00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:46,779
Police support
Army,

326
00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:48,381
not the others
go round.

327
00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:53,720
So it's a classic
rebellion.

328
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:57,390
That really civil war.
That is a civil war.

329
00:20:57,424 --> 00:21:00,660
The army is here
midway
Lenadoon Avenue.

330
00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:02,762
-They come...
- [LOUD FIRING]

331
00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:05,365
... after the previous confrontation
at the end...

332
00:21:05,398 --> 00:21:06,766
REPORTER NEWS 1:
Station the bus is crowded

333
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,303
when a bomb explodes
without warning.

334
00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:11,938
REPORTER NEWS 2:
It's tragic, dangerous,

335
00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:15,475
and the corner absurd
from the United Kingdom.

336
00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:18,411
BARRY McCAFFREY:
Violence continues
throughout the late 80s

337
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:21,381
and into the early 1990s.

338
00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:24,784
The IRA has developed
its bomb-making ability,

339
00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:27,354
has been developed
sniper attacks,

340
00:21:27,387 --> 00:21:29,322
and very much now

341
00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:32,659
fighting in urban areas
against the British Army,

342
00:21:32,692 --> 00:21:36,028
police and
Loyalist paramilitaries.

343
00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:40,967
People people have just been killed
by Republicans, by Loyalists.

344
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,636
Everything really
gets out of control.

345
00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:51,411
The Loughinisland Massacre
is just something

346
00:21:51,444 --> 00:21:52,912
that always sticks with me.

347
00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:57,016
There have been
hundreds of lives

348
00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,519
and massacres on all sides,

349
00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:01,488
but for some reasons
there are so many

350
00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:03,690
questions that are not answered
with Loughinisland.

351
00:22:04,557 --> 00:22:06,459
It never goes away.

352
00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:09,061
It's always on there
behind the head.

353
00:22:10,497 --> 00:22:14,701
I remember where I was
on the eve of the massacre.

354
00:22:16,403 --> 00:22:18,405
Republic of Ireland
football team

355
00:22:18,438 --> 00:22:23,109
was playing in Italy
1994 World Cup .

356
00:22:23,142 --> 00:22:24,577
COMMENTATOR TELEVISION:
I will say the biggest day

357
00:22:24,611 --> 00:22:28,815
in Irish international
football history.

358
00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:30,983
GIBNEY: There's a reason < br /> everyone in Bar Heights

359
00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:34,387
curled up on TV
on the eve of the massacre.

360
00:22:34,421 --> 00:22:36,856
There was a symbolic background
to World Cup matches

361
00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:39,158
at the Giants Stadium
in New Jersey.

362
00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:41,761
Ireland, this once,
has a world class team

363
00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,464
that seems to unite
the Irish war is torn .

364
00:22:44,497 --> 00:22:47,033
[FOOTBALL FANS CHANTING]

365
00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:52,972
NIALL O & apos; DOWD: One picture
I will always remember

366
00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:55,575
going out
to Meadowlands ,
match day,

367
00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:57,644
and see these cars
from everywhere.

368
00:22:57,677 --> 00:23:01,080
Alabama, New Mexico,
Minnesota, California,

369
00:23:01,113 --> 00:23:02,715
all with the Irish flag < br>> to them,

370
00:23:02,749 --> 00:23:04,150
and realize,
do you know what, friends?

371
00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:05,585
This is an
home game for Ireland.

372
00:23:07,487 --> 00:23:08,855
JIM GRACEY: When we
walk to the stadium

373
00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:10,122
and you enter
and look out,

374
00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,559
I just saw this
ocean green.

375
00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:15,928
You have this din,
You have this Irish song,

376
00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:17,764
You have this party
is happening,

377
00:23:17,797 --> 00:23:20,500
people dance in the stands,
you know...

378
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:23,736
That's very big
national expression.

379
00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:26,639
GIBNEY: There is a feeling
greater meaning for game,
isn't there?

380
00:23:26,673 --> 00:23:28,608
A feeling that the Problem
might end?

381
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:29,509
Yes.
Very much so.

382
00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,044
You are always aware of
from that fact

383
00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,914
the sports arena
is reflected
Broader Ireland,

384
00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:36,683
especially in
Northern Ireland. </ P>

385
00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:39,819
The game is ready
currently
a true breakthrough

386
00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:42,121
and hope for Ireland
the peace process.

387
00:23:45,658 --> 00:23:49,161
GIBNEY: For Irish fans,
the game is done
feeling moments.

388
00:23:49,195 --> 00:23:51,764
Just a few months before, < br /> Gerry Adams,

389
00:23:51,798 --> 00:23:54,033
political negotiators
for IRAs,

390
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:57,103
invited to America
for informal peace talks

391
00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:59,005
without more first
abandoned violence.

392
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,074
[REPORTERS CLAMOURING]

393
00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:04,677
O & apos; DOWD:
We handed it to the President
that the visa for Gerry Adams </ p >

394
00:24:04,711 --> 00:24:07,580
will have a dynamic effect
on the Irish peace process,

395
00:24:07,614 --> 00:24:10,983
and he accepted it
Despite that fact
everyone around him,

396
00:24:11,017 --> 00:24:13,753
included
Minister of Foreign Affairs,

397
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,855
CIA, FBI,
British government,

398
00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:18,257
everyone strongly opposes
that Adams visa.

399
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:20,192
He granted it
visa to Adams,

400
00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:21,861
and it's very big
breakthrough.

401
00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:25,498
I believe that by
giving Mr. Adams this visa,

402
00:24:25,532 --> 00:24:27,567
This limited visa
Come here,

403
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,769
we may have
a constructive role

404
00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:31,237
in encouraging 
peace process.

405
00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:34,106
[REPORTER SPEAKING]

406
00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:39,979
There are a number of
armed factions
in my country,

407
00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:42,649
the biggest < br /> are the British Army.

408
00:24:42,682 --> 00:24:45,051
They are allies of
Loyalist death squads

409
00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:46,753
and the Republic of Ireland Army.

410
00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:50,723
And I want to see the end
to all armed factions.

411
00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,926
GIBNEY: Seeing Adams
being treated as a statesman

412
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,063
sucks into Loyalists
and the British government.

413
00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:59,098
They saw Adams
as a terrorist,

414
00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:01,601
and the American negotiator
as pampering a man

415
00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:02,835
who had blood in his hand.

416
00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:05,905
Did the attack
in the bar that night

417
00:25:05,938 --> 00:25:08,941
how to hit
on the peace to come?

418
00:25:08,975 --> 00:25:11,310
The killers must < br /> think about the game

419
00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,580
and the expectations it offers
for people in the bar.

420
00:25:18,117 --> 00:25:19,552
GRACEY: I remember
not from anywhere

421
00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:22,254
This ball fell
into midfield
for Ray Houghton.

422
00:25:22,288 --> 00:25:24,591
He saw opportunities
and he let fly.

423
00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:36,636
I thought,
"This can't last."

424
00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:39,138
But when the game is running,

425
00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:40,640
Republican
grows in strength

426
00:25:40,673 --> 00:25:43,342
and the Italians
don't like it.

427
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:46,212
COMMENTATOR TELEVISION:
History has been made
at the Giants stadium.

428
00:25:46,245 --> 00:25:49,048
Republic of Ireland
has defeated Italy.

429
00:25:49,081 --> 00:25:51,283
GRACEY: In the end,
has defeated Italy,

430
00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:52,852
that place went
really angry. </ P>

431
00:25:57,757 --> 00:25:59,358
We've dropped
to the press center

432
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:04,330
and I called the office to
Speak to the Deputy Editor.

433
00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:05,998
And I said,
"This is brilliant, Jim.

434
00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:07,900
" I mean, it must be
to be page 1 tomorrow . "

435
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,069
And he said,
" This is not page 1
tomorrow. "

436
00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:11,303
And I said," Why not? "

437
00:26:11,337 --> 00:26:12,805
And he said, "We have
had cruelty here. "

438
00:26:33,993 --> 00:26:35,828
[MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING]

439
00:26:43,069 --> 00:26:44,403
McCAFFREY: Holiday cars
have been found

440
00:26:44,436 --> 00:26:48,274
the morning after the attack
by a local farmer

441
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:52,144
who is watching the car
on in its field,

442
00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:55,014
seven miles from
the attack scene.

443
00:26:58,117 --> 00:27:01,253
At that time
practicing for paramilitaries

444
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:02,889
carried out such attacks,

445
00:27:02,922 --> 00:27:06,893
they will burn the car
to destroy forensic evidence.

446
00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:08,961
Unusual in
Loughinisland attacks,

447
00:27:08,995 --> 00:27:11,731
the car is left behind <br / > fully intact.

448
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,802
BINNS: I will be honest.
I think it's fantastic.

449
00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:17,003
will
be able to

450
00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:19,205
do something < br /> from the car.

451
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,974
You have a hair sample,
you have fingerprints,

452
00:27:22,008 --> 00:27:23,876
You know, there will be
a lot...

453
00:27:25,077 --> 00:27:27,313
Even in those days
there will be

454
00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:31,083
a forensic prize,
gold mine.

455
00:27:35,421 --> 00:27:37,256
McCAFFREY:
Within six weeks,

456
00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:40,092
was August 4, 1994,

457
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,162
rifle VZ58,

458
00:27:43,195 --> 00:27:45,397
that has been used
to kill everyone,

459
00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:47,066
found in the field

460
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,301
not far from where it was
the car was found .

461
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:54,073
Nearby with a handle
found

462
00:27:54,106 --> 00:27:58,778
containing gloves,
pistol, balaclavas.

463
00:27:58,811 --> 00:28:03,215
There are hair follicles
found in one of
balaclavas.

464
00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:06,953
So there is wealth
forensic possibilities.

465
00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:13,025
There is
a series of arrests

466
00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:18,831
on July and August,
uh, that year,

467
00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:20,466
and there is
a hope,

468
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,402
of course the family hopes,

469
00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:28,240
that this all leads to
people billed,

470
00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:30,977
people who have
do cruelty

471
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:33,045
charged and
taken to court.

472
00:28:33,846 --> 00:28:36,883
[SPEAKING]

473
00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:49,495
[OPENING THE NEWS THEMES]

474
00:28:55,802 --> 00:28:58,437
Good night.
Six the week after the IRA said

475
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:00,807
his violent campaign
was over,

476
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,909
Loyalist terrorists
in Northern Ireland

477
00:29:02,942 --> 00:29:05,011
had also stated
truce called.

478
00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,880
So the whole
world attention

479
00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:10,983
is in this new future
Northern Ireland is facing.

480
00:29:11,017 --> 00:29:15,387
Feelings of this new hope .

481
00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:17,924
Like other cruelty,

482
00:29:17,957 --> 00:29:22,094
Loughinisland becomes
something you
is not discussed,

483
00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:23,796
because nobody wants 
> to reopen the past.

484
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,201
Seperti kekejaman lainnya,

485
00:29:29,235 --> 00:29:33,005
Loughinisland menjadi
sesuatu yang kamu
tidak dibicarakan,

486
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,875
karena tidak ada yang mau
untuk membuka kembali masa lalu.

487
00:29:38,410 --> 00:29:42,114
The only people who remember Loughinisland

488
00:29:42,148 --> 00:29:45,517
are family and
loved ones.

489
00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:55,127
CLAIRE:
Time goes on,

490
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:59,165
and we choose to remain silent
because it's our nature.

491
00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:00,432
That's the nature of
this community.

492
00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:01,500
Go up
with your life.

493
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:05,171
So we wait and
we wait and,

494
00:30:05,204 --> 00:30:08,374
You know, we
shed some information
about people, </ p >

495
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,576
the suspect has
captured

496
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:12,845
and we continue to think,
"Right, here it is now."

497
00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:15,982
And then after around, <br / > I would say, a year,
two years,

498
00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,850
it stopped,
no contact. </ P>

499
00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:21,287
And again we chose
just to stay calm down

500
00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,256
and hope someday

501
00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:26,125
there will be someone
taken to court.

502
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,931
I think I, you know,
deserve the truth

503
00:30:31,964 --> 00:30:33,399
to find out what happened.

504
00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,634
Like, my father
is only 34 years old.

505
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:38,304
p>

506
00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:40,239
It's not much older
than what I am now.

507
00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:42,541
Like, she's still young.
For me she's old,

508
00:30:42,574 --> 00:30:44,877
You know , he has a mustache
and he is my father,

509
00:30:44,911 --> 00:30:47,947
he is old, I am eight years old,
he is, not an old man,

510
00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:58,925
but he doesn't,
he's 34 years old.

511
00:30:58,958 --> 00:31:00,359
If I don't defend him

512
00:31:00,392 --> 00:31:02,561
and I don't fight
the corner of my father,

513
00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:04,630
who else <br / > will do it?

514
00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:05,965
I want someone
to be held accountable

515
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:14,206
for what happened here.

516
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,475
NEWS REPORTERS:
They may already

517
00:31:16,508 --> 00:31:19,445
Brother of six men
killed by UVF

518
00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:21,647
in Loughinisland
12 years ago this Sunday

519
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,350
never spoke openly <br / > about the ordeal,

520
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,352
their sadness, or lack of it
progress

521
00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,054
in police hunting
for the murderers.

522
00:31:28,087 --> 00:31:30,189
But today , family
gathered in Belfast

523
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,091
to demand answers.

524
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:34,426
Ten years with
no information,

525
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:36,562
there is no relationship with family .

526
00:31:36,595 --> 00:31:38,564
We don't know anything.

527
00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:40,332
[O & apos; TOOE SPEAKING]

528
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,610
I can think of
there is no reasonable reason

529
00:31:51,643 --> 00:31:53,980
why does anyone make sense
the police...

530
00:31:54,013 --> 00:31:56,983
From the first
consultation with
family,

531
00:31:57,016 --> 00:31:59,685
there are only feelings
something that's not right.

532
00:31:59,718 --> 00:32:02,288
Everything they want to know
that's what happened.

533
00:32:03,489 --> 00:32:06,292
At the end of 2005,

534
00:32:06,325 --> 00:32:09,628
we had three meetings with
senior police officers.

535
00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:12,999
<p p>

536
00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:15,034
The police said,
"We have boiler clothes,

537
00:32:15,067 --> 00:32:20,139
" We have balaclavas,

538
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,373
we have weapons,
we have a car. "

539
00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:22,541
I thought," What is the car?

540
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,044
"Where's the car?"

541
00:32:25,077 --> 00:32:26,245
Why don't you have a car?

542
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:27,613
Where the car?

543
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,082
[MUSIC SINISTER PLAYING]

544
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:35,587
[BLUNTING]

545
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:41,260
So where is the car?

546
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:42,194
"Oh, alright, you know ,
the car is destroyed.

547
00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:45,297
"And, uh...

548
00:32:45,331 --> 00:32:47,066
" But make sure it's all
forensic opportunities

549
00:32:56,208 --> 00:32:58,677
are realized from car. "

550
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:00,579
The biggest physical
shows in this case,

551
00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:01,613
and you have destroyed it?

552
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:06,652
GIBNEY: That car isn't
the only
disappeared.

553
00:33:06,685 --> 00:33:09,755
All transcripts from
the initial interview
with the suspect

554
00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:11,323
were also destroyed.

555
00:33:16,195 --> 00:33:17,596
More than ten years,

556
00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:19,565
even as the police
keep it open,

557
00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:22,468
the more entrances
for the truth to close.

558
00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:26,472
CLAIRE: To be honest,

559
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,640
we are always
suspicious.

560
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:29,775
And on reflection,

561
00:33:29,808 --> 00:33:31,810
sometimes I kind of
feel a little guilty

562
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,245
that we do not speak up,

563
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,148
because it seems now
that we are almost...

564
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:39,151
That's what they want
we want to do.

565
00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,820
They want we remain silent
and this will disappear.

566
00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,323
Every question we ask,
we are told,

567
00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:46,458
Oh, we don't know
you are now,

568
00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:47,626
You have to put it <br / > it is in writing.

569
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:51,230
No, we can't tell you that,
that's national security.

570
00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:55,401
We were thwarted
all the time.

571
00:33:55,434 --> 00:33:57,636
MAN: I don't know why
the car was destroyed,

572
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:59,505
but the reality
was destroyed...

573
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:02,841
One of the things
I remember

574
00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:07,346
it's five o'clock
in the morning
after the massacre.

575
00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,681
My husband, he came out
and cut grass.

576
00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:14,486
It looks weird now,
but people come
and go and...

577
00:34:17,656 --> 00:34:19,558
Those three policemen
stand out

578
00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:26,598
and there is a neighbor
down,

579
00:34:26,632 --> 00:34:29,201
scrolls down the window
from the car and he says,

580
00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:33,239
"You don't need to search further
than there is it."

581
00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:37,276
He said that.

582
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,848
That was his
direct reaction.

583
00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:46,818
p>

584
00:34:52,324 --> 00:34:55,661
"You don't need to look further
than they sound there."

585
00:34:55,694 --> 00:34:58,564
EMMA: Someone came here
and killed
six people who didn't guilty

586
00:34:58,597 --> 00:35:00,899
is left
on the floor to die.

587
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:05,404
And not even that they
did nothing.

588
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,406
Someone on somewhere help
these people cover this,

589
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:09,375
help them
go with it.

590
00:35:10,276 --> 00:35:12,178
We want to know how high
is this collusion walking?

591
00:35:12,211 --> 00:35:14,513
There are six innocent people.

592
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,315
My father
and I want the truth,

593
00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:17,383
and I want to know
why it happened,

594
00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,918
and there is that question
we need answers.

595
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:21,653
NEWS REPORTER: Last week,
the police who had visited

596
00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:24,256
did a new one

investigation into Loughinisland,

597
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:26,192
catch a man
and a woman,

598
00:35:26,225 --> 00:35:28,794
but they are fast
released at no cost.

599
00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:31,163
The Police Ombudsman
office has been confirmed

600
00:35:31,197 --> 00:35:32,398
they have received
complaints

601
00:35:32,431 --> 00:35:33,832
from families
in Loughinisland,

602
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:35,901
and they say they take
out of the investigation.

603
00:35:42,441 --> 00:35:43,575
GIBNEY:
After the ceasefire,

604
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:44,876
Northern Ireland was founded

605
00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:47,179
office of 
Police Ombudsman

606
00:35:47,213 --> 00:35:49,281
as a way to try
to take into account the past. </ P>

607
00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:52,484
Its mission is not
to resolve the crime. </ P>

608
00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:54,753
to see into
police mistakes,

609
00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:56,655
includes collusion,

610
00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:58,624
name catch all for
corrupt relations

611
00:35:58,657 --> 00:36:02,261
between police, informants
and terrorist gangs.

612
00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:09,901
Collusion first appeared
in the mid to late 80s,

613
00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,905
where the Republicans accused
that there was collusion

614
00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:14,840
among the police,

615
00:36:14,873 --> 00:36:17,243
between members
Army English

616
00:36:17,276 --> 00:36:20,779
and Loyalist
paramilitaries in the murder of the Nationalists. </ P>

617
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:23,482
NIALL MURPHY:
Collusion is a feature

618
00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:25,884
for 30 years 
conflict,

619
00:36:25,917 --> 00:36:28,720
and the official line
is that

620
00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:32,291
every police
or British soldier

621
00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:34,593
is involved with
Parliamentary paramilitaries

622
00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,328
are bad apples. </ P>

623
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:40,532
WARE: Very much
police officers,

624
00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,701
collusion is enough
poisonous words,

625
00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:46,338
because it is
very broad meaning, okay.

626
00:36:46,372 --> 00:36:49,875
And it's not easy
enter into some sort of
criminal code.

627
00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:53,979
I mean, collusion is
feeling where

628
00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:56,715
people give encouragement
and wink and nod.

629
00:36:56,748 --> 00:37:00,352
There is no criminal
collusion violation.

630
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:03,489
However, if you
worry

631
00:37:03,522 --> 00:37:05,957
that the police were
involved

632
00:37:05,991 --> 00:37:07,426
in killing your lover,

633
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:09,461
or involved in colluding
with that

634
00:37:09,495 --> 00:37:10,896
who was killed <br / > your lover,

635
00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:14,866
Ombudsman Police office
has the responsibility

636
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:17,669
to investigate
your complaint.

637
00:37:20,005 --> 00:37:22,874
GIBNEY: In 2011, 
Al Hutchinson Ombudsman,

638
00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:24,976
released the first report
in Loughinisland. </ P>

639
00:37:26,312 --> 00:37:27,879
Detailed Hutchinson report

640
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:30,616
some shocking facts
about this case .

641
00:37:30,649 --> 00:37:32,751
Some evidence
has been destroyed,

642
00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:35,521
Relationship of DNA with weapons
mishandling,

643
00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:37,456
and police informants
have been involved

644
00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:39,257
in selling
vacation cars.

645
00:37:42,494 --> 00:37:45,063
MURPHY: That was the first time
those facts

646
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:49,335
were presented in
an evidence-based mode.

647
00:37:49,368 --> 00:37:52,704
However, one word 
> it will not appear
in the report

648
00:37:52,738 --> 00:37:55,040
is "collusion."

649
00:37:55,073 --> 00:37:59,411
Al Hutchinson is carried out
factual gymnastics

650
00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:02,748
to avoid conclusions that.

651
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:07,353
We really, really
disappointed with that.

652
00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:10,989
And angry.
Very, very angry.

653
00:38:11,022 --> 00:38:12,591
On one stage I will do it
have been loved

654
00:38:12,624 --> 00:38:14,326
put my hands together
circle his neck.

655
00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,498
I remember in the media
conference that day

656
00:38:19,531 --> 00:38:21,066
there is one person,

657
00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:22,701
he's a local friend here,

658
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:24,803
and he says,

659
00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:27,939
there are two words
missing from this report,

660
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:29,641
"Special" and "Branch."

661
00:38:34,846 --> 00:38:38,584
GIBNEY: Special Branch
intelligence unit > in the police

662
00:38:38,617 --> 00:38:40,352
charged with
watching terrorists

663
00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:42,588
and handling informants.

664
00:38:42,621 --> 00:38:44,756
There are many questions
about what they know

665
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:45,924
and when,

666
00:38:45,957 --> 00:38:46,992
and do they
keep

667
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:48,894
that information
for themselves,

668
00:38:48,927 --> 00:38:51,697
or whether it was rubbed
from the Hutchinson report.

669
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,702
It almost looked like that

670
00:38:56,735 --> 00:39:00,439
the report started
with the conclusion

671
00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:05,444
and cut the pieces < > jigsaw to make it fit.

672
00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:08,547
NEWS REPORTER: Last year,
then the Ombudsman of the Police,
Al Hutchinson,

673
00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:11,517
published a report that
criticized the investigation police,

674
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,820
but found not enough
evidence of collusion.

675
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:17,756
Families
strongly disagree
with that conclusion

676
00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:18,857
and initiate a lawsuit

677
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:21,693
to have an Ombudsman
reverse findings.

678
00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:22,894
This morning
in the High Court,

679
00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:24,996
The current Ombudsman,
Michael Maguire,

680
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:28,033
agree that last year
the report must be canceled.

681
00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:29,868
EMMA: We are happy,
we are proven right.

682
00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:34,506
Mr. Maguire can now
Go back and start again

683
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:37,175
and hopefully come out
with a report

684
00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:39,545
that gives us
truth and justice.

685
00:39:39,578 --> 00:39:40,646
NEWS REPORTER:
So the way is now open

686
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:44,182
for the Police Ombudsman
to start a new investigation. </ P>

687
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,718
Now
more than 18 years </ p >

688
00:39:46,752 --> 00:39:49,020
since the massacre
in this bar.

689
00:39:49,054 --> 00:39:51,823
At that time,
16 people had been arrested,

690
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:54,993
but no one had ever been
accused of murder.

691
00:39:55,026 --> 00:39:57,095
The family hoped

692
00:39:57,128 --> 00:40:00,098
> Today's development

693
00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:02,901
will be a step towards
discovering the truth.

694
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:06,938
Chris Page, BBC Newsline,
Loughinisland.

695
00:40:06,972 --> 00:40:09,875
DR.
MICHAEL MAGUIRE:
The Loughinisland case

696
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:10,976
one of the iconic cases in
the history of Northern Ireland,

697
00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:13,479
the history of Troubles.

698
00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:15,881
t is one of the
cases that arrived at my desk

699
00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:19,718
shortly after I was
appointed in 2012.

700
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:22,020
What happened
with the first report

701
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:25,491
is that very
specifically focused

702
00:40:25,524 --> 00:40:27,659
on the attack on
Bar Heights
on June 18,

703
00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:30,061
so it looks
investigation steps

704
00:40:30,095 --> 00:40:33,699
TKP Management,
and then the next step.

705
00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:35,501
There are
significant areas

706
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:37,168
that have not been
investigated,

707
00:40:37,202 --> 00:40:41,006
and that includes
incidents leading
to Loughinisland.

708
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:43,909
It's important to be expanded
investigation

709
00:40:43,942 --> 00:40:46,512
and effective
back to the beginning.

710
00:40:48,179 --> 00:40:50,215
[MUSIC PLAY DRAMATICS]

711
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,823
GIBNEY: In 2013,
Michael Maguire and his team

712
00:40:57,856 --> 00:41:01,026
started a new investigation
to Loughinisland.

713
00:41:01,059 --> 00:41:03,194
Like Hutchinson,
Maguire decided not to disclose it

714
00:41:03,228 --> 00:41:05,163
name of the source or suspect.

715
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:09,467
Police officers
identified by numbers ,

716
00:41:10,135 --> 00:41:11,970
possible suspects by letter.

717
00:41:14,573 --> 00:41:17,042
Unlike the first report,
Maguire Investigation

718
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:18,910
looked much deeper
into the case

719
00:41:18,944 --> 00:41:20,712
and what caused
to the murder.

720
00:41:23,014 --> 00:41:25,551
The report confirmed
that UVF,

721
00:41:25,584 --> 00:41:27,018
was a Protestant
paramilitary group,

722
00:41:27,052 --> 00:41:30,856
was responsible for
Loughinisland attacks.

723
00:41:30,889 --> 00:41:33,224
But his investigation
denied the UVF claim

724
00:41:33,258 --> 00:41:35,561
that had been there
IRA meeting at the bar.

725
00:41:36,962 --> 00:41:38,830
That had happened
a tit for tat killing.

726
00:41:39,798 --> 00:41:40,999
Three days before,

727
00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:44,002
an IRA splinter group
shot dead three leaders UVF

728
00:41:44,035 --> 00:41:47,739
stood at the bus stop
Shankill Road in Belfast. </ P>

729
00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:50,241
UVF
was called for revenge,

730
00:41:50,275 --> 00:41:52,678
with orders from members < br /> to kill Catholics,

731
00:41:52,711 --> 00:41:54,045
every Catholic.

732
00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:59,217
McCAFFREY: People know
there will be a

733
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,986
sort of retaliation.

734
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:03,755
p>

735
00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:07,626
like this when one side
attacks another,

736
00:42:07,659 --> 00:42:09,628
there will be retaliation.

737
00:42:20,606 --> 00:42:22,207
[SIREN WAILING]

738
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,309
MAGUIRE: <br / > Early police response

739
00:42:24,342 --> 00:42:26,745
to attack
that night, you know,

740
00:42:26,778 --> 00:42:29,781
given the chaos that
and terror

741
00:42:29,815 --> 00:42:32,784
were around
after that event,

742
00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:36,254
as good as possible
was expected.

743
00:42:36,287 --> 00:42:38,056
They closed it
crime scene,

744
00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:39,858
they went out 
vehicle inspection points,

745
00:42:39,891 --> 00:42:42,260
they install helicopters.

746
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:44,930
We check the flight time
for the helicopter,

747
00:42:44,963 --> 00:42:46,765
and that makes sense <br / > with conditions

748
00:42:46,798 --> 00:42:47,899
the amount of time
was in the air.

749
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:51,002
So the initial
response from the police to the attack

750
00:42:51,036 --> 00:42:53,939
seemed to us <

751
00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:57,643
However, there are more serious

752
00:42:57,676 --> 00:42:59,144
fundamental investigation
problem

753
00:42:59,177 --> 00:43:01,012
that appears
is very fast.

754
00:43:04,983 --> 00:43:06,952
McCAFFREY:
In Dr. Maguire,

755
00:43:06,985 --> 00:43:08,253
Police Officer 4,

756
00:43:08,286 --> 00:43:10,722
he is a senior
investigative officer

757
00:43:10,756 --> 00:43:12,057
at night
from Loughinisland. </ P>

758
00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:16,261
He actually visited
the attack scene.

759
00:43:16,294 --> 00:43:20,198
There was a meeting that night
from all senior detectives,

760
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:25,270
but then,
in 24 hours,

761
00:43:25,303 --> 00:43:27,172
at most 48 hours,

762
00:43:27,205 --> 00:43:28,740
he goes on vacation

763
00:43:28,774 --> 00:43:31,142
because I think that
one month to six weeks.

764
00:43:33,879 --> 00:43:36,982
>

765
00:43:37,015 --> 00:43:38,750
The biggest mass murder
in the area...

766
00:43:38,784 --> 00:43:40,986
I will think,
you know,

767
00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:47,258
it will be one
priority main.

768
00:43:47,292 --> 00:43:50,962
But the first
on the agenda
is the vacation.

769
00:44:00,105 --> 00:44:01,139
DENISON PHIL:
Next day,

770
00:44:01,172 --> 00:44:03,942
June 19, 1994,

771
00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:06,244
the vehicle was found
left in a field.

772
00:44:09,815 --> 00:44:12,017
There are some mechanics
problems occur
with that vehicle

773
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:14,886
and there seems to be
driven from the road,

774
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,722
and from there armed men,

775
00:44:16,755 --> 00:44:19,357
and I include the driver
in the description,

776
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:21,126
but armed people,
the three people,

777
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:22,327
and we have witnesses ,

778
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,797
we see witness statements
to describe three people.

779
00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:27,232
So we say
the three people,

780
00:44:27,265 --> 00:44:29,034
a driver and two ,

781
00:44:29,067 --> 00:44:32,437
has made them escape
perhaps on foot.

782
00:44:39,044 --> 00:44:40,812
what
is really frustrating

783
00:44:40,846 --> 00:44:43,048
is a poor person < Investigation practices

784
00:44:43,081 --> 00:44:44,783
are carried out by the police.

785
00:44:46,151 --> 00:44:48,253
There is no
forensic examination

786
00:44:48,286 --> 00:44:49,387
from the field afterwards.

787
00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:51,456
And I know that sounds,
sometimes sounds like that,

788
00:44:51,489 --> 00:44:53,024
what would
have to do with the field?

789
00:44:53,058 --> 00:44:56,795
But actually the potential for
harvesting from the field
is very good.

790
00:45:00,198 --> 00:45:01,499
You know, 
relevance of things like

791
00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:06,004
botany, vegetation,
soil typing.

792
00:45:06,037 --> 00:45:08,173
If you can take
soil samples

793
00:45:08,206 --> 00:45:10,108
from someone
shoes or clothes,

794
00:45:10,141 --> 00:45:13,411
what you can do is potentially
connect someone to the field.

795
00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:15,280
If you can connect
them to the field ,

796
00:45:15,313 --> 00:45:17,382
You might be able to
connect them to the car.

797
00:45:17,415 --> 00:45:19,050
You know,
this is a scrolling process.

798
00:45:19,084 --> 00:45:20,418
But if you 
/> don't do that

799
00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:22,320
and you did not collect it
in the first example,

800
00:45:22,353 --> 00:45:24,022
you missed the opportunity
to do it.

801
00:45:29,194 --> 00:45:32,330
The car itself,
was allegedly sold

802
00:45:32,363 --> 00:45:36,835
the day before the crime
by a man in Belfast.

803
00:45:36,868 --> 00:45:40,839
Call out to be seen
the last registered guard
the vehicle,

804
00:45:40,872 --> 00:45:42,007
someone in Belfast,

805
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,076
and an officer assigned
to go and investigate.

806
00:45:48,513 --> 00:45:51,282
BINNS: So I was briefed
to go to Belfast </ p >

807
00:45:51,316 --> 00:45:53,351
and interview several people.

808
00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:56,487
Most importantly,
people who sell cars

809
00:45:56,521 --> 00:45:58,957
just before
the shooting takes place.

810
00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:00,425
Because obviously
it will be the link

811
00:46:00,458 --> 00:46:02,360
for anyone
shooting.

812
00:46:03,294 --> 00:46:04,996
Now, it's not unusual

813
00:46:06,197 --> 00:46:08,433
when you go to
different areas

814
00:46:08,466 --> 00:46:11,136
to go to the local police
and local links.

815
00:46:11,169 --> 00:46:12,537
They will have it
local knowledge,

816
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:14,339
they will know
personality.

817
00:46:14,372 --> 00:46:15,974
They might have it
a relationship,

818
00:46:16,007 --> 00:46:17,575
some forms of
work relationships

819
00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:19,911
with those people
so too .

820
00:46:19,945 --> 00:46:24,082
What's unusual
on this occasion
is that I'm down,

821
00:46:24,115 --> 00:46:26,051
I was told who
I can talk to,

822
00:46:26,084 --> 00:46:27,518
who I can't talk to,

823
00:46:27,552 --> 00:46:30,421
and the people I talk to
what they will say.

824
00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:32,991
But just as important, <br / > what they will not say.

825
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:39,865
GIBNEY: By retrospect,

826
00:46:39,898 --> 00:46:40,798
do you wonder about that day

827
00:46:40,832 --> 00:46:42,467
in what matter
you notified?

828
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:46,571
Look back,
of course at that time,

829
00:46:46,604 --> 00:46:49,307
I feel... the word I use
is "set."

830
00:46:50,241 --> 00:46:52,177
The interview
has been set up.

831
00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:54,913
The statement I want <br / > take is set.

832
00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:56,347
The
meeting is set.

833
00:46:56,381 --> 00:46:58,416
I never speak
to the man,

834
00:46:58,449 --> 00:47:03,154
as, if I overall
is responsible for the investigation,

835
00:47:03,188 --> 00:47:05,123
who I want
want to talk to.

836
00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:07,893
But everything
is happy with that.

837
00:47:07,926 --> 00:47:12,197
So obviously there are a lot of things
going above my head

838
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:14,099
that other people
are looking for.

839
00:47:23,074 --> 00:47:24,509
DENISON:
Later on the day that,

840
00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:26,644
Special Branch Officers
met with

841
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:27,712
senior
investigative officers

842
00:47:27,745 --> 00:47:30,081
and senior members
of the investigation team,

843
00:47:30,115 --> 00:47:33,184
and spoken verbally
those people

844
00:47:33,218 --> 00:47:35,020
they believe
will be responsible

845
00:47:35,053 --> 00:47:37,355
for Loughinisland
cruelty.

846
00:47:37,388 --> 00:47:38,656
We are talking about
the next day.

847
00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:41,492
The attack is 10:00,
for the sake of argument,

848
00:47:41,526 --> 00:47:44,595
Ten o'clock on the 18th.

849
00:47:44,629 --> 00:47:46,131
And we talk about

850
00:47:46,164 --> 00:47:48,900
during the course
day on the 19th.

851
00:47:48,934 --> 00:47:51,202
This is only a few hours.

852
00:47:51,236 --> 00:47:52,938
They saw
in intelligence
they had and said,

853
00:47:52,971 --> 00:47:55,473
"These are your people
really want to concentrate.

854
00:47:59,077 --> 00:48:00,979
GIBNEY: That day
after the massacre,

855
00:48:01,012 --> 00:48:03,381
Special Branch suddenly
revealed intelligence

856
00:48:03,414 --> 00:48:06,017
about the suspects that they

857
00:48:07,518 --> 00:48:08,653
> have taken care of themselves.

858
00:48:08,686 --> 00:48:11,589
For the past six years,

859
00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:12,557
the police have been aware of
the men of the Loyalist gang

860
00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:14,892
who have been involved

861
00:48:17,695 --> 00:48:22,133
In 1986 in Dundrum,
they tried to kill
John O & Ros; Rourke,

862
00:48:22,167 --> 00:48:24,502
and possibly involved
in the assassination of Jack Kielty.

863
00:48:25,503 --> 00:48:27,472
In November 1992,

864
00:48:27,505 --> 00:48:29,975
they tried but failed
to kill Peter McCarthy

865
00:48:30,008 --> 00:48:31,276
at the Thierafurth Inn,

866
00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:34,579
the place that the gang believed <br / > be IRA hang out,

867
00:48:34,612 --> 00:48:37,415
eleven miles
from Loughinisland.

868
00:48:37,448 --> 00:48:40,151
The gang returns
to Thierafurth Inn
two weeks later

869
00:48:40,185 --> 00:48:42,954
and kill another man
named Peter McCormick.

870
00:48:42,988 --> 00:48:45,490
It's scary like that murder
in Loughinisland.

871
00:48:45,523 --> 00:48:48,126
Those people drive
used cars from Belfast,

872
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,361
use balaclavas
and boilersuits,

873
00:48:50,395 --> 00:48:52,230
and spray the bar
with shots.

874
00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:59,004
Three weeks later in Belfast ,
the same gang
killed Martin Lavery.

875
00:48:59,037 --> 00:49:01,639
The weapon used,
nine millimeters of Browning,

876
00:49:01,672 --> 00:49:03,374
was later found
in a duffle bag

877
00:49:03,408 --> 00:49:06,377
Used in
the Loughinisland massacre.

878
00:49:06,411 --> 00:49:08,679
>

879
00:49:08,713 --> 00:49:10,515
No member
the gang was ever sued

880
00:49:12,717 --> 00:49:15,186
to do
one of the murders.

881
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:18,023
MAGUIRE: Speak to
Special Branch Officers ,

882
00:49:18,056 --> 00:49:19,724
their intelligence efforts
in the early 90s,

883
00:49:19,757 --> 00:49:22,160
they started
to gather intelligence

884
00:49:22,193 --> 00:49:24,996
around the suspects <br / > in the murder.

885
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:27,465
The problem is that
they don't share
that intelligence

886
00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:34,572
with the detective
who is investigating
the murder .

887
00:49:34,605 --> 00:49:39,610
Slow Waltz is a policy
used by the Special Branch

888
00:49:39,644 --> 00:49:44,115
which means that the document
will be released in a slow time.

889
00:49:44,149 --> 00:49:46,451
So you have this
situation where

890
00:49:46,484 --> 00:49:49,054
researchers
deal with

891
00:49:49,087 --> 00:49:50,421
a little information,

892
00:49:50,455 --> 00:49:52,323
but don't know < br /> larger images.

893
00:49:52,357 --> 00:49:53,791
And of course,
larger images

894
00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:55,560
in the context
from Loughinisland,

895
00:49:55,593 --> 00:49:59,397
is the feeling there
is this gang in operation,

896
00:49:59,430 --> 00:50:01,366
they are involved
in serious crime.

897
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:07,138
GIBNEY:
In Maguire's investigation ,

898
00:50:07,172 --> 00:50:10,241
the five suspects
were identified only with letters.

899
00:50:10,275 --> 00:50:13,578
People A, M, K,
Me and b.

900
00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:18,683
The leader
is Person A.

901
00:50:18,716 --> 00:50:22,387
In 1988, Person A was
a member of the British Army,

902
00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:25,090
who lived a few doors down
from Loyalist club,

903
00:50:25,123 --> 00:50:26,524
Clough Orange Hall,

904
00:50:26,557 --> 00:50:28,826
where people do investigation
Kielty's murder

905
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:31,562
find a gun,
sub-machine gun,

906
00:50:31,596 --> 00:50:34,465
ammunition and
photo note Army,

907
00:50:34,499 --> 00:50:38,803
montage, with images of
from suspected IRA members. </ P>

908
00:50:38,836 --> 00:50:41,206
One of them was targeted
to be killed by a gang. </ P>

909
00:50:43,141 --> 00:50:46,711
A person's fingerprint.
is in montage. </ P>

910
00:50:46,744 --> 00:50:49,214
He was arrested and prosecuted,
but never punished. </ P>

911
00:50:50,281 --> 00:50:51,749
When Person A is released,

912
00:50:51,782 --> 00:50:53,784
the officer who caught
remained concerned

913
00:50:53,818 --> 00:50:56,321
about the threat
submitted by Person A.

914
00:50:59,324 --> 00:51:02,160
McCAFFREY: The detective
was very concerned </ p >

915
00:51:02,193 --> 00:51:04,795
that this individual

916
00:51:04,829 --> 00:51:10,435
was a soldier during the day
and a terrorist at night.

917
00:51:10,468 --> 00:51:12,570
That was him
very concerned that he was

918
00:51:12,603 --> 00:51:15,373
p>

919
00:51:15,406 --> 00:51:18,543
so that he gets thrown out
out of the British Army.

920
00:51:18,576 --> 00:51:22,180
GIBNEY: How exactly do you
characterize Person A?

921
00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:24,249
I will characterize it as < > I will characterize everything,

922
00:51:24,282 --> 00:51:25,516
as cruel. </ P>

923
00:51:26,251 --> 00:51:27,785
Really cruel. </ P>

924
00:51:27,818 --> 00:51:29,154
A serial killer? </ P>

925
00:51:30,888 --> 00:51:32,490
By definition, yes .

926
00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:38,263
MURPHY:
So in 24 hours

927
00:51:38,296 --> 00:51:39,730
they have a car.

928
00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:42,400
Special Branches can
go down and
tell the researchers

929
00:51:42,433 --> 00:51:43,868
the names of the suspects.

930
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:47,905
However, is Person A
arrested that day?

931
00:51:47,938 --> 00:51:49,840
Is the door to his room kicked <br / > in the hallway?

932
00:51:49,874 --> 00:51:51,409
Did he follow
into a police station

933
00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:52,810
and was asked to be responsible
for his movements?

934
00:51:52,843 --> 00:51:55,280
Was his house sought ?
No.

935
00:51:55,313 --> 00:51:59,450
Person A was not captured
in the first sweep of arrest
in July 1994.

936
00:51:59,484 --> 00:52:01,586
In fact, Person A
wasn't even captured

937
00:52:01,619 --> 00:52:04,322
until almost
two months later.

938
00:52:04,355 --> 00:52:06,257
DENISON: We don't know
why he wasn't arrested

939
00:52:06,291 --> 00:52:08,859
in July with
other people.

940
00:52:08,893 --> 00:52:10,895
The house was ransacked.

941
00:52:10,928 --> 00:52:13,231
Whether it's true or not
a case that he wasn't there

942
00:52:13,264 --> 00:52:15,366
and there was a job
came out to find it,

943
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,203
I just don't know.

944
00:52:18,236 --> 00:52:19,937
MAGUIRE: One of the
difficulties
that we found

945
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:23,341
in conducting our investigation
was a log policy

946
00:52:23,374 --> 00:52:24,742
you will do it
expected

947
00:52:24,775 --> 00:52:26,711
with the senior
investigative officer,

948
00:52:26,744 --> 00:52:27,845
it will be written,

949
00:52:27,878 --> 00:52:30,915
"I have decided not to do this
arrest this person because...

950
00:52:30,948 --> 00:52:32,617
"I want to understand
more information,

951
00:52:32,650 --> 00:52:34,752
or because I want to do it,
you know, something else."

952
00:52:34,785 --> 00:52:36,921
All documentation
Not available to us.

953
00:52:36,954 --> 00:52:38,456
It's no longer available,

954
00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:42,660
because asbestos
is a problem with the police station.

955
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:44,729
They've destroyed a lot < br /> documentation,

956
00:52:44,762 --> 00:52:47,698
includes interview records
potential suspects.

957
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,501
DENISON: I have
vehicles recovered,

958
00:52:50,535 --> 00:52:52,670
I have potential
Forensic harvest.

959
00:52:52,703 --> 00:52:54,505
You know, if I can hit
someone quite early

960
00:52:54,539 --> 00:52:55,940
and there's something weak
among this team,

961
00:52:55,973 --> 00:52:57,208
they might start falling.

962
00:52:57,242 --> 00:52:58,476
GIBNEY: How come?
they don't do it?

963
00:52:58,509 --> 00:52:59,577
Good question.

964
00:53:02,947 --> 00:53:04,114
I don't know .

965
00:53:04,148 --> 00:53:06,451
And I don't know because
a senior investigative officer

966
00:53:06,484 --> 00:53:07,652
hasn't spoken to me.

967
00:53:11,322 --> 00:53:13,658
GIBNEY: One key police officer
is responsible for the investigation

968
00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:15,660
from Loughinisland
has retired,

969
00:53:15,693 --> 00:53:18,429
which means he can refuse
cooperate with Maguire.

970
00:53:19,330 --> 00:53:20,731
That leaves the mist of mystery

971
00:53:20,765 --> 00:53:22,700
more than why the police
allows key suspects

972
00:53:22,733 --> 00:53:24,535
time to cover their tracks.

973
00:53:25,770 --> 00:53:27,738
LEVEL:
This is rotten to the core.

974
00:53:27,772 --> 00:53:31,976
The fact that SIO
in the case of Loughinisland

975
00:53:32,009 --> 00:53:34,445
has courage
refuses to cooperate.

976
00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:38,249
What do you mean by that?

977
00:53:39,684 --> 00:53:40,685
Something that isn't here. </ P>

978
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:45,890
You know, that's one thing
when people lose their lives. </ P>

979
00:53:45,923 --> 00:53:47,958
Once upon a time
there was great cruelty

980
00:53:49,494 --> 00:53:50,795
and no one else
is taken to the book.

981
00:53:50,828 --> 00:53:53,264
But it becomes
a completely different thing

982
00:53:53,298 --> 00:53:54,765
when there are no people
taken to the book

983
00:53:54,799 --> 00:53:56,867
because someone else
did not do the job correctly,

984
00:53:56,901 --> 00:53:58,235
or someone else
covered it.

985
00:54:25,763 --> 00:54:27,164
GIBNEY: 
The family suspects

986
00:54:27,197 --> 00:54:30,501
that the
investigation may have been mismanaged
intentionally,

987
00:54:30,535 --> 00:54:32,537
is possible to protect
an informant. </ P>

988
00:54:33,338 --> 00:54:34,539
Throughout the Problem,

989
00:54:34,572 --> 00:54:37,375
the British government used
informants, called brokers,

990
00:54:37,408 --> 00:54:40,478
to infiltrate terrorist groups
and provide intelligence.

991
00:54:43,681 --> 00:54:46,050
Let's talk about the UK
handling government
informants.

992
00:54:46,083 --> 00:54:47,352
Yes.

993
00:54:47,385 --> 00:54:50,655
Are there problems
balancing the benefits
information obtained

994
00:54:50,688 --> 00:54:54,425
with the cost of protecting
malicious sources?

995
00:54:54,459 --> 00:54:56,894
That is always
a difficult problem,

996
00:54:56,927 --> 00:55:01,499
because it's right through
the Troubles period, </ p >

997
00:55:01,532 --> 00:55:04,402
some very brave people
stand up and say,

998
00:55:04,435 --> 00:55:07,838
"This is
destroying our country,
destroying the province.

999
00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:09,807
Many lives people
are at risk. "

1000
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,978
And so many people
courage is provided intelligence

1001
00:55:14,011 --> 00:55:16,947
that is seriously prevented
anger occurs.

1002
00:55:16,981 --> 00:55:19,049
Now, the current question

1003
00:55:19,083 --> 00:55:21,486
are they
handled correctly,

1004
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:23,454
is that
accurate information,

1005
00:55:23,488 --> 00:55:25,723
and are
they are people

1006
00:55:25,756 --> 00:55:27,392
who can be fully trusted

1007
00:55:27,425 --> 00:55:29,494
and are working
all the time in law.

1008
00:55:29,527 --> 00:55:30,461
So you have an informant

1009
00:55:30,495 --> 00:55:33,531
who works
organized crime gangs.

1010
00:55:33,564 --> 00:55:35,900
At what level is
individuals allowed
to work?

1011
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:38,002
Is he allowed 
/> lead the organization?

1012
00:55:38,035 --> 00:55:40,638
Does he go to a place that is very
for the organization?

1013
00:55:40,671 --> 00:55:42,573
And what is that danger?

1014
00:55:42,607 --> 00:55:45,443
Is he part from
operating plans?

1015
00:55:45,476 --> 00:55:48,446
And of course, if not
authorize them to do it,

1016
00:55:48,479 --> 00:55:50,748
their fellow partners
and gang members </ p >

1017
00:55:50,781 --> 00:55:51,949
would like to know
why is this person,

1018
00:55:51,982 --> 00:55:53,117
why not
take part in this.

1019
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:58,489
This problem was kicked around
year officials year after year.

1020
00:55:58,523 --> 00:56:00,425
Everyone struggles

1021
00:56:00,458 --> 00:56:02,660
how do you make
something

1022
00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:05,563
real criminal
not a criminal?

1023
00:56:05,596 --> 00:56:07,465
And no one can do it.

1024
00:56:07,498 --> 00:56:09,900
However they try,
no one can fix it.

1025
00:56:09,934 --> 00:56:11,936
People make
decisions at a high level

1026
00:56:11,969 --> 00:56:15,706
to continue running the source
not good people,

1027
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:18,676
these people, you won't want
to walk through your door.

1028
00:56:19,677 --> 00:56:21,512
You don't like
dealing with them,

1029
00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:23,981
p>

1030
00:56:24,014 --> 00:56:26,050
but unfortunately
they still save lives.

1031
00:56:26,083 --> 00:56:27,718
That is a pretty shady world,

1032
00:56:27,752 --> 00:56:29,119
but it's one of them
you have to accept.

1033
00:56:29,153 --> 00:56:30,187
Very frustrating.

1034
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:32,189
And...

1035
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:34,459
The informant is terrible
to work with.

1036
00:56:34,492 --> 00:56:38,062
[CHUCKLES]

1037
00:56:38,095 --> 00:56:40,531
I mean, part of my job
as a Detective
interviewing terrorists,

1038
00:56:40,565 --> 00:56:41,599
even interviewing
ordinary criminals,

1039
00:56:41,632 --> 00:56:44,502
and to some extent,
of course
criminal level,

1040
00:56:44,535 --> 00:56:50,007
You will run, operate the informant
like the Detective will.

1041
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,175
They very important.

1042
00:56:52,009 --> 00:56:54,545
But what appears

1043
00:56:54,579 --> 00:56:56,013
there may be
more than that is allowed to continue

1044
00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:57,114
than it should.

1045
00:56:57,147 --> 00:57:00,485
And who runs it
is a different question. </ P>

1046
00:57:00,518 --> 00:57:02,953
You have a police officer who
will run the informant,

1047
00:57:02,987 --> 00:57:04,121
but you also
have a military

1048
00:57:04,154 --> 00:57:06,223
who will be
running the informant.

1049
00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:08,092
HUTCHINSON: Organization
that I go to prison for,

1050
00:57:08,125 --> 00:57:09,093
Ulster Volunteer Force,

1051
00:57:09,126 --> 00:57:10,795
people like police
and others

1052
00:57:10,828 --> 00:57:12,463
have infiltrated them.

1053
00:57:12,497 --> 00:57:14,865
People in British security
definite service,

1054
00:57:14,899 --> 00:57:16,467
you know,
recruit people

1055
00:57:16,501 --> 00:57:18,135
and put it
into the organization.

1056
00:57:18,168 --> 00:57:20,137
And on several occasions when
the police do this,

1057
00:57:20,170 --> 00:57:22,072
they only see
so that people give they are
information,

1058
00:57:22,106 --> 00:57:23,474
is not a large piece of information,

1059
00:57:23,508 --> 00:57:27,512
but then if they grow
a sizeable person
in that organization

1060
00:57:27,545 --> 00:57:30,014
then, you know,
this is more than just information.

1061
00:57:30,047 --> 00:57:32,049
It's about how they do it
destroy the organization?

1062
00:57:32,082 --> 00:57:33,584
And they do it from within.

1063
00:57:33,618 --> 00:57:35,252
They create confusion.

1064
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:38,556
They give wrong information.
People start getting killed.

1065
00:57:40,558 --> 00:57:43,227
GIBNEY: Dangers of running
the informant who is placed very high come

1066
00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:46,130
when the agents,
under
state protection,

1067
00:57:46,163 --> 00:57:47,732
start killing people.

1068
00:57:48,866 --> 00:57:50,535
One of the most widely known
examples

1069
00:57:50,568 --> 00:57:52,002
is not from UVF,

1070
00:57:52,036 --> 00:57:54,038
but from the IRA.

1071
00:57:54,071 --> 00:57:55,272
He is a very placed tout ,

1072
00:57:55,305 --> 00:57:59,577
is responsible for the
torture and the killing of other brokers.

1073
00:57:59,610 --> 00:58:01,846
The name is
Freddy Scappaticci,

1074
00:58:01,879 --> 00:58:03,814
the code name is Stakeknife.

1075
00:58:08,686 --> 00:58:10,721


1076
00:58:10,755 --> 00:58:13,558
the code name is Stakeknife.

1077
00:58:13,591 --> 00:58:18,095
<p p>

1078
00:58:18,128 --> 00:58:20,831
MORRISON:
Scappaticci was imprisoned,

1079
00:58:20,865 --> 00:58:22,066
an apprentice in the 1970s.

1080
00:58:22,099 --> 00:58:26,937
Then he became
an IRA member.

1081
00:58:26,971 --> 00:58:29,707
I know him, not really,
but I know him.

1082
00:58:29,740 --> 00:58:35,512
He is an
my acquaintance.

1083
00:58:36,146 --> 00:58:37,682
I have seen it
on the show Republic,
at funerals, etc.

1084
00:58:37,715 --> 00:58:40,651
makes them acknowledge
that they are informants,

1085
00:58:40,685 --> 00:58:43,087
and then submit them
to the IRA who killed them.

1086
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:45,990
And the people who are there 
/> run these agents

1087
00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:48,726
know it's another agent
involved

1088
00:58:48,759 --> 00:58:50,728
in the murder
from the agent

1089
00:58:50,761 --> 00:58:52,329
who is actually 
work for the country,

1090
00:58:52,362 --> 00:58:53,998
and should be
protected by the state

1091
00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:56,934
from that point of view.

1092
00:58:56,967 --> 00:58:59,870
GIBNEY: How is this?
beneficial for the country

1093
00:58:59,904 --> 00:59:01,606
to have this person
kill all these people

1094
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:03,107
who is the informant
on the IRA?

1095
00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:05,710
Because I <br / > understanding that

1096
00:59:05,743 --> 00:59:08,579
the people who Scappaticci
are interrogating,

1097
00:59:08,613 --> 00:59:10,681
are people who are
lower level IRAs

1098
00:59:10,715 --> 00:59:12,049
suspected
to be an informant.

1099
00:59:12,082 --> 00:59:14,885
So the value is
to the Special Branch,

1100
00:59:14,919 --> 00:59:19,924
or to British Intelligence
has run the path.

1101
00:59:19,957 --> 00:59:22,359
So they see
further advantages

1102
00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:26,263
in having their men,
Stakeknife,

1103
00:59:26,296 --> 00:59:27,665
be the one who said,

1104
00:59:27,698 --> 00:59:30,701
"That person is guilty.
I have destroyed it
interrogated.

1105
00:59:30,735 --> 00:59:32,703
He must be executed."

1106
00:59:34,338 --> 00:59:35,372
GIBNEY: To be clear,

1107
00:59:35,405 --> 00:59:39,243
that is the IRA
executing.

1108
00:59:39,276 --> 00:59:42,813
But since the British agent is located
running the broker system,

1109
00:59:42,847 --> 00:59:45,349
the state's moral status
can be compromised

1110
00:59:45,382 --> 00:59:48,018
by the knowledge of
the crimes committed.

1111
00:59:48,052 --> 00:59:50,721
That gives the informant the power
more than a handler them.

1112
00:59:52,422 --> 00:59:54,692
MORRISON:
Freddy Scappaticci
has been billed.

1113
00:59:54,725 --> 00:59:57,695
Freddy Scappaticci will
say to the handler,

1114
00:59:57,728 --> 00:59:59,964
"Jika saya turun,
Anda akan turun. "

1115
00:59:59,997 --> 01:00:01,866
And the handler will do it
turn and say

1116
01:00:01,899 --> 01:00:03,000
to the British government,

1117
01:00:03,033 --> 01:00:04,068
"If I go down,

1118
01:00:04,101 --> 01:00:06,336
" Number 10 Downing Street < br /> will come down too,

1119
01:00:06,370 --> 01:00:09,974
"Because you know
all this time about dirty wars,

1120
01:00:10,007 --> 01:00:13,110
about what we were asked to do
and what we do. "

1121
01:00:13,143 --> 01:00:15,646
The paper trail will lead
to 10 Downing Street,

1122
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,815
and they cannot allow
to occur.

1123
01:00:19,884 --> 01:00:21,652
WARE : There
Scappaticci images

1124
01:00:21,686 --> 01:00:24,154
that sort of captures
how real

1125
01:00:24,188 --> 01:00:27,658
the world secret agent
has become. </ P>

1126
01:00:27,692 --> 01:00:29,727
He walks behind a man

1127
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,129
who is a former
senior IRA member,

1128
01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:35,933
next to the coffin
whose brother, Ruby Davison,

1129
01:00:35,966 --> 01:00:39,003
who actually
an informant.

1130
01:00:39,036 --> 01:00:43,440
So we have Gerry Adams
bring a coffin
from an informant,

1131
01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:46,110
Scappaticci who's
is an informant,

1132
01:00:46,143 --> 01:00:48,846
and there is more
The informant outside the picture

1133
01:00:48,879 --> 01:00:52,049
who is responsible for
this murder in the first place.

1134
01:00:53,483 --> 01:00:55,753
It's kind of madness.

1135
01:00:57,922 --> 01:00:59,690
MORRISON: This
British government

1136
01:00:59,724 --> 01:01:03,127
is involved in
killing people.

1137
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:08,365
As if they were
sitting in their room
in Surrey, or in Kent,

1138
01:01:08,398 --> 01:01:10,735
playing war games
with our lives here. </ P>

1139
01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:19,209
GIBNEY: Are running
and protection
so many informants, </ p >

1140
01:01:19,243 --> 01:01:23,047
all with ulterior motives,
out of control?

1141
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,983
That is a haunted
question
the Loughinisland case,

1142
01:01:26,016 --> 01:01:29,419
and the murder weapon method
makes the way
into the hands of the killers.

1143
01:01:30,487 --> 01:01:32,723
[MUSIC DRAMATIC PLAY]

1144
01:01:36,093 --> 01:01:39,329
DENISON: The weapon
used in Loughinisland
is VZ58.

1145
01:01:39,363 --> 01:01:41,298
This is Czec made
assault rifle .

1146
01:01:41,331 --> 01:01:43,968
It looks like
AK47 people recognize,

1147
01:01:44,001 --> 01:01:46,804
and often
are called AK47.

1148
01:01:46,837 --> 01:01:49,406
If the weapon is
used in Loughinisland ,

1149
01:01:49,439 --> 01:01:51,842
how can that happen
to the province?

1150
01:01:55,012 --> 01:01:55,913
GIBNEY: To track
how the weapon

1151
01:01:55,946 --> 01:01:58,348
goes into hand
from the UVF gunman,

1152
01:01:58,382 --> 01:02:00,885
you must understand
the story of the arms race

1153
01:02:00,918 --> 01:02:03,420
between the Loyalists
paramilitaries and the IRA.

1154
01:02:05,155 --> 01:02:06,991
IRA 
who first smuggled

1155
01:02:07,024 --> 01:02:09,326
powerful weapons from abroad.

1156
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:11,528
They made a deal
with Libya Gadaffi

1157
01:02:11,561 --> 01:02:13,864
to give them enough
military artillery

1158
01:02:13,898 --> 01:02:15,465
for two infantry battalions,

1159
01:02:16,934 --> 01:02:18,268
including machine guns,

1160
01:02:18,302 --> 01:02:21,138
surface to air missiles
and Semtex explosives.

1161
01:02:21,171 --> 01:02:23,073
[HARD EXPLOSION]

1162
01:02:23,107 --> 01:02:27,111
IRAs carry campaigns 
to the British capital, London.

1163
01:02:27,144 --> 01:02:29,980
For several years IRA
bombs exploded in cities

1164
01:02:30,014 --> 01:02:31,315
and throughout the UK.

1165
01:02:31,348 --> 01:02:34,051
From the lower train station
land to financial markets.

1166
01:02:34,084 --> 01:02:37,855
One mortar attack
almost killed
Prime Minister John Major.

1167
01:02:37,888 --> 01:02:40,557
REPORTER NEWS: courage was
from the attack
Londoners were shocked.

1168
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:43,193
Apparently the van stopped
for several minutes

1169
01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:46,330
outside the Ministry of Defense
at Whitehall.

1170
01:02:46,363 --> 01:02:49,566
The British Parliament is only
a few hundred meters away.

1171
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,269
McCAFFREY: The IRA
is sure to come
to the conclusion

1172
01:02:52,302 --> 01:02:57,507
that a bomb in London is
worth ten bombs
in Northern Ireland.

1173
01:02:57,541 --> 01:02:59,076
[SIREN WAILING]

1174
01:02:59,109 --> 01:03:02,046
KILPATRICK: That's one of them > best strategy
IRAs have ever had,

1175
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:03,981
because our opinion
in Northern Ireland

1176
01:03:04,014 --> 01:03:05,916
is an Englishman
the government believes

1177
01:03:05,950 --> 01:03:07,918
there is something acceptable
level of violence.

1178
01:03:07,952 --> 01:03:09,854
A policeman is killed
in Northern Ireland,

1179
01:03:09,887 --> 01:03:11,288
a young Catholic
is killed,

1180
01:03:11,321 --> 01:03:12,923
A Protestant
killed,

1181
01:03:12,957 --> 01:03:14,291
a soldier killed

1182
01:03:14,324 --> 01:03:16,026
does not mean much
to the British people.

1183
01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,862
They are right really don't care,
To be honest.

1184
01:03:17,895 --> 01:03:19,196
You took over the war
to England

1185
01:03:19,229 --> 01:03:21,165
and you put it
under pressure,

1186
01:03:21,198 --> 01:03:23,200
and that's what they did
with the London bombing.

1187
01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:25,235
Some of them,
and other bombings later on.

1188
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:28,405
GIBNEY: English
IRA campaign

1189
01:03:28,438 --> 01:03:31,441
causes escalation threats
by the Loyalists.

1190
01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:34,278
That raises questions
about whether the
British government

1191
01:03:34,311 --> 01:03:36,346
is trying hard enough
to stop the Loyalists

1192
01:03:36,380 --> 01:03:38,215
from greater
and better weapons.

1193
01:03:40,050 --> 01:03:42,052
MAGUIRE:
For Loyalist paramilitaries,

1194
01:03:42,086 --> 01:03:43,921
there are
strategic decisions

1195
01:03:43,954 --> 01:03:45,589
to do what they call
back to service.

1196
01:03:45,622 --> 01:03:47,491
[DISTAN DISORDERS]
[PEOPLE SCREAMING]

1197
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:52,596
So by attacking
community Catholics

1198
01:03:52,629 --> 01:03:54,865
and by terrorizing
the Catholic community,

1199
01:03:54,899 --> 01:03:57,134
this is the way
bring the game,

1200
01:03:57,167 --> 01:03:59,003
when they see it,
to IRA.

1201
01:03:59,036 --> 01:04:00,570
Thus in their view,

1202
01:04:00,604 --> 01:04:03,340
put pressure on the IRA
to stop their campaign.

1203
01:04:03,373 --> 01:04:05,142
[SPEAKING]

1204
01:04:05,175 --> 01:04:07,344
And they need weapons
to be able to do that.

1205
01:04:09,379 --> 01:04:10,614
As part of our investigation,

1206
01:04:10,647 --> 01:04:13,918
we found the
document that was discussed
an informant

1207
01:04:13,951 --> 01:04:17,287
that was reported
to the Special Branch <br / > in the late 1980s.

1208
01:04:17,321 --> 01:04:19,089
He said that
Parliamentary paramilitaries

1209
01:04:19,123 --> 01:04:22,159
were preparing to buy

weapons from abroad.

1210
01:04:25,129 --> 01:04:26,063
GIBNEY:
Does the United Kingdom

1211
01:04:26,096 --> 01:04:27,531
bring the weapon
to Northern Ireland?

1212
01:04:27,564 --> 01:04:28,532
What is it?
did you find it?

1213
01:04:28,565 --> 01:04:31,268
No, I won't go this far
like saying that.

1214
01:04:31,301 --> 01:04:34,071
Does the country know that?
weapons for Loyalists
come?

1215
01:04:34,104 --> 01:04:35,339
Does the country know?

1216
01:04:35,372 --> 01:04:37,274
Country, clear from
what we have seen,

1217
01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:40,044
the country knows that
there are plans in progress

1218
01:04:40,077 --> 01:04:41,545
to bring weapons.

1219
01:04:51,055 --> 01:04:52,522
GIBNEY: At the end of 1987,

1220
01:04:52,556 --> 01:04:56,293
the British government
was watching
coastal waters.

1221
01:04:56,326 --> 01:04:58,162
The police knew that
Loyalist gangs

1222
01:04:58,195 --> 01:05:00,998
had robbed the bank
to buy
weapons from South Africa.

1223
01:05:02,132 --> 01:05:03,633
At the end of December,
the informant was told

1224
01:05:03,667 --> 01:05:05,669
the army,
and the police,

1225
01:05:05,702 --> 01:05:08,272
that the weapon is approaching
Northern Ireland,

1226
01:05:08,305 --> 01:05:12,009
hidden under the floor tiles
on the container ship.

1227
01:05:12,042 --> 01:05:16,113
Then mysteriously,
the government lost track of
the ship

1228
01:05:16,146 --> 01:05:19,950
and the weapons landed
somewhere near Belfast.

1229
01:05:19,984 --> 01:05:22,519
WARE: That is
shipping large enough

1230
01:05:22,552 --> 01:05:24,021
to equip the small Army.

1231
01:05:24,054 --> 01:05:26,991
I mean, we are talking
around hundreds of

1232
01:05:27,024 --> 01:05:28,458
automatic weapons,

1233
01:05:28,492 --> 01:05:30,961
fragmentation grenades,

1234
01:05:30,995 --> 01:05:34,031
rocket launchers, pistols.

1235
01:05:34,064 --> 01:05:37,067
Tens of thousands
ammunition.

1236
01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:41,471
We know from
Ombudsman reports

1237
01:05:41,505 --> 01:05:44,374
that after sending
weapons entered,

1238
01:05:44,408 --> 01:05:49,313
they were detained
in the farmhouse
from one James Mitchell.

1239
01:05:49,346 --> 01:05:51,148
Mitchell's farmhouse was
in the heart of

1240
01:05:51,181 --> 01:05:53,183
what was known
as Glennane's gang.

1241
01:05:53,217 --> 01:05:56,086
Glennane's gang
consists of

1242
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,422
from UVF members,

1243
01:05:58,455 --> 01:06:01,325
serving the army,
serving police officers.

1244
01:06:03,193 --> 01:06:05,229
p>

1245
01:06:05,262 --> 01:06:09,133
From James Mitchell 's
farmhouse,

1246
01:06:09,166 --> 01:06:11,768
the most terrible acts of terrorism have been planned,

1247
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:16,073
will return at least
until 1974.

1248
01:06:16,106 --> 01:06:17,074
They turn around,

1249
01:06:17,107 --> 01:06:19,676
machine guns
people go to the bar,

1250
01:06:19,709 --> 01:06:23,213
disguise themselves as soldiers
their uniforms at night

1251
01:06:23,247 --> 01:06:26,383
in the checkpoint and
fire people.

1252
01:06:26,416 --> 01:06:28,518
They are scary,
scary.

1253
01:06:28,552 --> 01:06:32,722
And they are members of
of the Security Forces.

1254
01:06:35,825 --> 01:06:36,893
GIBNEY: On the farm,

1255
01:06:36,926 --> 01:06:39,229
the weapons are waiting
divided into three ways

1256
01:06:39,263 --> 01:06:41,231
between the three Loyalist gangs,

1257
01:06:41,265 --> 01:06:43,400
one of them is UVF .

1258
01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:47,471
On January 8, 1988,

1259
01:06:47,504 --> 01:06:51,275
three cars departed
from Belfast to be picked up
their shares.

1260
01:06:51,308 --> 01:06:53,443
One of the cars was 
followed by police,

1261
01:06:53,477 --> 01:06:55,645
who have been given information
by Loyalist informants.

1262
01:06:58,582 --> 01:07:03,019
MURPHY:
Surveillance operations
lose sight of these people ,

1263
01:07:04,121 --> 01:07:06,390
and therefore,
can't

1264
01:07:06,423 --> 01:07:08,425
track them
locations where

1265
01:07:08,458 --> 01:07:11,528
the overall disposal of weapons
is being stored.

1266
01:07:13,863 --> 01:07:16,100
But after they
leave the farm, </ p >

1267
01:07:16,133 --> 01:07:19,069
they were picked up,
two Ford Granadas,

1268
01:07:19,103 --> 01:07:24,474
who were burdened with
with dozens of rifles VZ58.

1269
01:07:24,508 --> 01:07:28,212
The suspects found driving
both Ford This Granadas,

1270
01:07:28,245 --> 01:07:32,649
have straw and dirt
and carry their boots,

1271
01:07:32,682 --> 01:07:36,853
so they know that
they have done it
the type of farm area.

1272
01:07:36,886 --> 01:07:40,657
And the intelligence of the police
knows all about
Agriculture James Mitchell,

1273
01:07:40,690 --> 01:07:42,292
but they don't go there.

1274
01:07:43,727 --> 01:07:46,663
I just want to know , "Hmm.
A farmhouse near here. </ P>

1275
01:07:46,696 --> 01:07:50,234
Now, I wonder, could it be that
James Mitchell farmhouse?" </ P>

1276
01:07:50,267 --> 01:07:53,237
The idea that it wasn't
even happens to them

1277
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:55,239
goes beyond belief.

1278
01:07:55,272 --> 01:07:59,109
Especially because
shortly after the arrest of

1279
01:07:59,143 --> 01:08:02,779
from the Loyalists that
cars are full of weapons,

1280
01:08:02,812 --> 01:08:05,749
someone informed
James Mitchell

1281
01:08:05,782 --> 01:08:09,219
that the security forces
might be coming soon

1282
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:10,620
to see the farm.

1283
01:08:10,654 --> 01:08:14,524
And the rest of the weapon 
moved very quickly.

1284
01:08:16,226 --> 01:08:18,128
So, you got half
country

1285
01:08:18,162 --> 01:08:20,297
trying to sentence
this item,

1286
01:08:20,330 --> 01:08:23,367
and you have
other parts

1287
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,602
in intelligence
gathering communities

1288
01:08:25,635 --> 01:08:28,372
determined to
weaken that effort,

1289
01:08:28,405 --> 01:08:30,140
and they succeed
in doing so.

1290
01:08:30,174 --> 01:08:32,309
This is a terrible story.

1291
01:08:32,342 --> 01:08:33,510
A truly horrible story.

1292
01:08:34,511 --> 01:08:35,879
[GUNFIRE]

1293
01:08:38,515 --> 01:08:39,783
KILPATRICK: UVF,
they end with

1294
01:08:39,816 --> 01:08:41,885
abilities
they didn't have before.

1295
01:08:41,918 --> 01:08:44,421
Paintings
appeared on the wall

1296
01:08:44,454 --> 01:08:46,856
of people standing
with VZ58s.

1297
01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:49,493
Weapons escaped,

1298
01:08:49,526 --> 01:08:51,861
and they were used in murder,
more than 70 murders.

1299
01:08:51,895 --> 01:08:55,232
At least 70,
seven zeros

1300
01:08:55,265 --> 01:08:58,335
killed
by gun alone.

1301
01:08:58,368 --> 01:09:02,272
How many people
were killed by bullets

1302
01:09:02,306 --> 01:09:03,707
and fragmentation of
grenades,

1303
01:09:03,740 --> 01:09:05,209
and the rest...
we don't know.

1304
01:09:05,242 --> 01:09:07,211
Lots of people
die as a result

1305
01:09:07,244 --> 01:09:09,613
the weapon comes
to Northern Ireland .

1306
01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:12,716
One of the weapons was left
the farm in Glennane

1307
01:09:12,749 --> 01:09:15,519
and will reach
the conclusion of his murder

1308
01:09:15,552 --> 01:09:19,523
on June 18, 1994, 
in Loughinisland.

1309
01:09:19,556 --> 01:09:24,194
There are ballistics
special traces.

1310
01:09:24,228 --> 01:09:28,498
The serial number
the weapon
was used in Loughinisland

1311
01:09:28,532 --> 01:09:31,735
fell specifically in
between two weapons

1312
01:09:31,768 --> 01:09:35,605
that were rediscovered
after weapons import
in January 1988.

1313
01:09:43,247 --> 01:09:44,614
[LAUGH]
[CAR IDLING]

1314
01:09:57,727 --> 01:09:59,696
COMMENTATOR TELEVISION:
Well, that's amazing <br a happy start,

1315
01:09:59,729 --> 01:10:01,765
and of course the team played

1316
01:10:01,798 --> 01:10:06,336
as if they were
among the elite,
and rightly so.

1317
01:10:14,678 --> 01:10:16,313
GIBNEY:
And the camera maker.
[MARKER CLAPS]

1318
01:10:16,346 --> 01:10:18,548
So, about six months
after the massacre,

1319
01:10:18,582 --> 01:10:20,016
the police have significant < br /> breakthrough

1320
01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:22,252
when they receive
anonymous calls?

1321
01:10:22,286 --> 01:10:23,753
From what I understand,

1322
01:10:23,787 --> 01:10:26,790
calls are made to
reporting lines secret

1323
01:10:26,823 --> 01:10:28,525
managed by RUC,

1324
01:10:28,558 --> 01:10:32,829
and basically,
basically wants
to provide information

1325
01:10:32,862 --> 01:10:34,698
for potential
identities

1326
01:10:34,731 --> 01:10:37,467
of people involved
in shooting ,

1327
01:10:37,501 --> 01:10:38,702
in the shooting
in Loughinisland,

1328
01:10:38,735 --> 01:10:40,970
and gave the name
in relation to that.

1329
01:10:41,004 --> 01:10:44,040
GIBNEY: And are the names that
the same name of the suspects?

1330
01:10:44,073 --> 01:10:46,876
DENISON:
They are all relevant
name, yes.
Oh yeah.

1331
01:10:48,345 --> 01:10:50,614
And it's not that
too far then

1332
01:10:50,647 --> 01:10:53,016
when followed up
with an anonymous letter written

1333
01:10:53,049 --> 01:10:54,851
sent to the local councilor,

1334
01:10:54,884 --> 01:10:57,787
it is again articulated
same information

1335
01:10:57,821 --> 01:11:00,390
and calling the same person
as involved.

1336
01:11:03,927 --> 01:11:06,930
GIBNEY: But you can't
be sure

1337
01:11:06,963 --> 01:11:09,933
does the police know
who is this anonymous source
is

1338
01:11:09,966 --> 01:11:12,869
Yes, the police know who the
source is, yes.

1339
01:11:12,902 --> 01:11:13,970
And do you know?
How do they know?

1340
01:11:14,003 --> 01:11:16,473
Alex, you took me <br / > to an area

1341
01:11:16,506 --> 01:11:17,974
I don't really
want to go to,

1342
01:11:18,007 --> 01:11:21,578
because of constraints
from where I operate under.

1343
01:11:21,611 --> 01:11:23,580
I mean, the police
have information

1344
01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:24,748
where they
can be exploited

1345
01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:26,650
and I don't think they
did it very well.

1346
01:11:26,683 --> 01:11:28,518
I think that's all
I am ready to say
on this stage.

1347
01:11:29,719 --> 01:11:31,087
GIBNEY: How exactly are
the police

1348
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,323
able identify
this anonymous caller,

1349
01:11:33,357 --> 01:11:34,658
remember that
anonymous?

1350
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:36,593
[SIGHS HEAVILY]

1351
01:11:41,398 --> 01:11:43,700
I just, I just took it 
for a moment to think

1352
01:11:43,733 --> 01:11:46,570
about some potential
danger in this line.

1353
01:11:46,603 --> 01:11:50,574
And I fully appreciate where
you want to go with this,

1354
01:11:50,607 --> 01:11:51,775
what do you want
to pick it up,

1355
01:11:51,808 --> 01:11:56,746
but I also really 
/> be aware of the potential,

1356
01:11:56,780 --> 01:11:58,314
the potential danger behind it.

1357
01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:01,885
Because I can answer it,

1358
01:12:01,918 --> 01:12:03,753
but I know you what
the next question is,

1359
01:12:03,787 --> 01:12:06,856
and I will go, at that point
I will close you
at all,

1360
01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:08,224
because of this...

1361
01:12:08,257 --> 01:12:11,995
because I will ask
the same question
be in your shoes.

1362
01:12:12,028 --> 01:12:13,563
GIBNEY: It's there
other proof,

1363
01:12:13,597 --> 01:12:15,899
or other information 
who came...

1364
01:12:15,932 --> 01:12:18,668
Of course, I want to know
the name of
anonymous callers,

1365
01:12:18,702 --> 01:12:21,538
and whether that is
the same person
who wrote the letter.

1366
01:12:21,571 --> 01:12:24,007
But the researchers
did not speak.

1367
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,611
To protect witnesses,
they are willing to tell us
storyline,

1368
01:12:27,644 --> 01:12:30,079
but not the
name of the character.

1369
01:12:30,113 --> 01:12:31,815
So, Ombudsman
Investigation

1370
01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:35,685
is a confusing scrub
letters and numbers

1371
01:12:35,719 --> 01:12:39,088
"Person A, Person M,
Police Officer 12." </ p >

1372
01:12:41,491 --> 01:12:43,827
Who are these people?

1373
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:46,730
The answers appear on the form
other anonymous tips.

1374
01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:52,035
In 2011, someone was upset
by Loughinisland 
cover,

1375
01:12:52,068 --> 01:12:55,805
leak the document to
journalist Barry McCaffrey.

1376
01:12:55,839 --> 01:12:58,942
McCAFFREY:
Leaked documents
come in the mail.

1377
01:12:58,975 --> 01:13:01,010
I still don't know
to this day

1378
01:13:01,044 --> 01:13:04,080
what someone stabbed
a conscience to send it.

1379
01:13:04,113 --> 01:13:05,982
Maybe that was
the fact that. ..

1380
01:13:06,015 --> 01:13:08,618
they know we
are working on this story

1381
01:13:08,652 --> 01:13:13,557
and the family
did not get an answer,

1382
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:16,059
or not
was given the answer.

1383
01:13:16,092 --> 01:13:18,928
The document
unpublished report </ p >

1384
01:13:18,962 --> 01:13:21,030
brought by
Previous Ombudsman

1385
01:13:21,064 --> 01:13:22,999
to Loughinisland
cruelty.

1386
01:13:25,068 --> 01:13:28,905
This report has been preceded
Al Hutchinson Report.

1387
01:13:28,938 --> 01:13:32,008
It's been 2008.

1388
01:13:34,511 --> 01:13:36,112
GIBNEY: The leaked report
is a concept,

1389
01:13:36,145 --> 01:13:38,482
so it's uncivilized.

1390
01:13:38,515 --> 01:13:40,850
It contains the original name < br /> and important details

1391
01:13:40,884 --> 01:13:44,153
about existing cases
never disclosed.

1392
01:13:44,187 --> 01:13:46,856
Anonymous text
missing letter,

1393
01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:48,792
but report it was revealed
the man's name

1394
01:13:48,825 --> 01:13:50,527
to whom the letter was sent.

1395
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,129
Patsy Toman,
a local politician

1396
01:13:53,162 --> 01:13:55,865
arrived at the Bar Heights
right after shooting. </ P>

1397
01:13:56,566 --> 01:13:57,901
[SPEAKING]

1398
01:14:14,017 --> 01:14:17,621
PATSY TOMAN:
I got this letter
on Valentine's Day,

1399
01:14:17,654 --> 01:14:21,958
and I said maybe someone
sent me a Valentine card.

1400
01:14:21,991 --> 01:14:25,629
But when I read it,
I found it
it was serious,

1401
01:14:25,662 --> 01:14:27,130
and very serious. </ P>

1402
01:14:27,163 --> 01:14:28,865
And it looks like...

1403
01:14:30,033 --> 01:14:32,001
I thought it was
the writing of a woman,

1404
01:14:32,035 --> 01:14:33,870
sort of writing.

1405
01:14:39,108 --> 01:14:43,079
"Dear Mr. Toman,
I wrote to advise you
facts

1406
01:14:43,112 --> 01:14:46,249
"I think it will be so
interesting to you

1407
01:14:46,282 --> 01:14:50,186
" in your search at home
Loughinisland murder.

1408
01:14:51,888 --> 01:14:55,058
"When I see you on TV
after checking,

1409
01:14:55,091 --> 01:15:00,063
"I feel that I have to
tell someone
what I know.

1410
01:15:01,164 --> 01:15:03,633
" People it was captured
after the murder

1411
01:15:03,667 --> 01:15:06,836
"indeed
close to the culprit.

1412
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:09,873
Commander
operation... "

1413
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:14,744
No, I'm sorry,
I won't read it.

1414
01:15:14,778 --> 01:15:16,079
No thanks. </ p >

1415
01:15:18,848 --> 01:15:21,585
[SPEAKING]

1416
01:15:23,152 --> 01:15:25,755
GIBNEY: Patsy has
reasons to be afraid.

1417
01:15:25,789 --> 01:15:27,691
Before Loughinisland
massacre,

1418
01:15:27,724 --> 01:15:30,727
his house was bombed
by Loyalist terrorists.

1419
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,261
More than 20 years later,

1420
01:15:32,295 --> 01:15:34,898
he was still afraid to read
that part of the letter

1421
01:15:34,931 --> 01:15:36,532
was named < br /> the murder suspects.

1422
01:15:37,801 --> 01:15:39,202
[SPEAKING]

1423
01:15:39,235 --> 01:15:40,837
Alright?

1424
01:15:42,271 --> 01:15:45,575
GIBNEY: Patsy has given
an original letter
to the police ,

1425
01:15:45,609 --> 01:15:46,943
who then lost it.

1426
01:15:48,678 --> 01:15:50,113
But Patsy kept a copy of

1427
01:15:50,146 --> 01:15:53,116
and was willing to share it
years later
with Barry McCaffrey.

1428
01:15:55,384 --> 01:15:58,888
"The gunman
one Ronnie Hawthorn,

1429
01:15:58,922 --> 01:16:00,657
"The married man from Clough.

1430
01:16:01,958 --> 01:16:07,697
" Gunman two is Alan Taylor,
one from Dundrum.

1431
01:16:07,731 --> 01:16:11,835
"Holiday car driver
is Gorman McMullan,

1432
01:16:11,868 --> 01:16:14,103
"Terrorists sentenced
from Belfast

1433
01:16:14,137 --> 01:16:16,840
" and leading lights
in Belfast UVF. </ P>

1434
01:16:18,207 --> 01:16:21,811
"I know the info secret this,
because I have been

1435
01:16:21,845 --> 01:16:24,213
"In the initial planning of
of murder.

1436
01:16:27,016 --> 01:16:30,119
" I withdrew from the attack
because of the previous engagement

1437
01:16:30,153 --> 01:16:32,656
"That I can't cover up.

1438
01:16:32,689 --> 01:16:36,359
" The police do have
interrogated children,

1439
01:16:36,392 --> 01:16:38,695
"But as a police officer told me,

1440
01:16:38,728 --> 01:16:41,798
& apos; "We know who did it,
but we can't prove it.

1441
01:16:41,831 --> 01:16:45,969
" and without proof or
their statement will be free. & apos;

1442
01:16:46,002 --> 01:16:49,673
"Hawthorn and Taylor,
they took part in the attack

1443
01:16:49,706 --> 01:16:53,743
" at the Thierafurth
pub in Kilcoo a few years ago,

1444
01:16:53,777 --> 01:16:57,046
"and various other incidents
in the area.

1445
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,150
"This information will
somehow ease my conscience,

1446
01:17:01,184 --> 01:17:03,753
" but it will never be fully
clean my name .

1447
01:17:03,787 --> 01:17:07,190
"But I did this for
the family and children

1448
01:17:07,223 --> 01:17:11,094
" of the people who were there
slaughtered in Loughinisland.

1449
01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:14,063
Contribute, may we all
live in peace. "

1450
01:17:19,936 --> 01:17:22,739
GIBNEY: It turns out that
people are called murderers

1451
01:17:22,772 --> 01:17:26,242
in anonymous letters <br Also the main suspect

1452
01:17:26,275 --> 01:17:27,911
was mentioned in the leaked report.

1453
01:17:37,286 --> 01:17:39,723
Is this the same person
Maguire focused

1454
01:17:39,756 --> 01:17:41,090
on the investigation?

1455
01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,060
We see both documents,

1456
01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:46,730
and with cross references
date of capture,

1457
01:17:46,763 --> 01:17:50,199
is able to decode
and name
to all cyphers.

1458
01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:55,038
My person
Gorman McMullan,

1459
01:17:55,071 --> 01:17:56,873
is named after the letter
as the driver.

1460
01:17:57,874 --> 01:17:59,342
M people are Alan Taylor,

1461
01:17:59,375 --> 01:18:01,745
named as the man
who holds the door.

1462
01:18:01,778 --> 01:18:05,348
Person A, is accused of
the gang leader
and the gunman,

1463
01:18:05,381 --> 01:18:06,983
is Ronald Hawthorn.

1464
01:18:08,284 --> 01:18:10,820
Leaked documents
reveal something else.

1465
01:18:10,854 --> 01:18:12,722
Book author
anonymous letters

1466
01:18:12,756 --> 01:18:15,158
and people which makes it
anonymous phone calls

1467
01:18:15,191 --> 01:18:17,060
are one and the same.

1468
01:18:17,093 --> 01:18:20,263
Hillary Hawthorn,
Ronnie Hawthorn's wife.

1469
01:18:22,465 --> 01:18:25,468
We don't know what
Hillary Hawthorn looks like.

1470
01:18:25,501 --> 01:18:29,973
There is no picture of him
or Ronnie Hawthorn online.

1471
01:18:30,006 --> 01:18:34,443
We found an article about
Catching Ronnie
for a photo montage.

1472
01:18:34,477 --> 01:18:37,947
We found Ronnie and Hillary
marriage certificate. </ P>

1473
01:18:37,981 --> 01:18:40,784
They married in
Presbyterian church
in Clough,

1474
01:18:40,817 --> 01:18:42,485
a few miles
from Loughinisland,

1475
01:18:42,518 --> 01:18:44,253
ten years before the murder.

1476
01:18:45,822 --> 01:18:49,392
He was 24, he was 18 years old.

1477
01:18:49,425 --> 01:18:52,428
Did he know what kind of person
was he married?

1478
01:18:56,065 --> 01:18:59,402


1479
01:18:59,435 --> 01:19:01,470
p>

1480
01:19:01,504 --> 01:19:04,240
We also know that Hillary
is close to the local police.

1481
01:19:04,273 --> 01:19:06,509
The detective tells me
she really works

1482
01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:08,244
in the cafeteria
Newcastle Police Station. </ P>

1483
01:19:10,146 --> 01:19:11,214
That's how they
recognize his voice

1484
01:19:11,247 --> 01:19:14,818
when he was made
anonymous calls. </ P>

1485
01:19:14,851 --> 01:19:18,387
The regional police said he did it
to punish her husband
for having an affair.

1486
01:19:19,889 --> 01:19:21,290
What is hard to understand

1487
01:19:21,324 --> 01:19:24,460
why was he never
accused of crime.

1488
01:19:24,493 --> 01:19:26,529
MURPHY:
He was indeed arrested,

1489
01:19:26,562 --> 01:19:30,099
but we don't know what
said in the interview,

1490
01:19:30,133 --> 01:19:34,403
because the police happened to be < br /> destroy the note

1491
01:19:34,437 --> 01:19:37,140
and we don't know why
he is not prosecuted.

1492
01:19:37,173 --> 01:19:40,844
But the line in this letter
which states,

1493
01:19:40,877 --> 01:19:41,978
"I know the secret
for this information,

1494
01:19:42,011 --> 01:19:44,280
because I'm original
planning for murder."

1495
01:19:44,313 --> 01:19:47,083
How is this one person
not charged fee

1496
01:19:47,116 --> 01:19:49,385
before the court
with conspiracy to murder,

1497
01:19:49,418 --> 01:19:51,855
and who knows what
the author of this letter

1498
01:19:51,888 --> 01:19:53,857
ingin melakukannya

1499
01:19:53,890 --> 01:19:56,059
in the event that even
might change the proof of the state.

1500
01:19:57,861 --> 01:19:59,495
We don't know,
because he was not prosecuted.

1501
01:20:00,563 --> 01:20:01,564
GIBNEY:
Question why

1502
01:20:01,597 --> 01:20:05,034
refers to the man who
interrogates Hillary Hawthorn,

1503
01:20:05,068 --> 01:20:09,973
Police Officer 4,
Detective Inspector
Albert Carroll.

1504
01:20:10,006 --> 01:20:13,409
Turns out he
SIO Deputy in charge of
from Loughinisland,

1505
01:20:13,442 --> 01:20:17,146
but went on vacation
the day after the murder. </ P>

1506
01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:19,849
He was also involved > in the other three
murder investigations

1507
01:20:19,883 --> 01:20:21,484
regarding the Hawthorne gang.

1508
01:20:23,186 --> 01:20:25,388
He retired in 2011.

1509
01:20:25,421 --> 01:20:27,356
Barry McCaffrey
went looking for him.

1510
01:20:29,959 --> 01:20:31,961
Where did you find
Albert Carroll?

1511
01:20:31,995 --> 01:20:35,564
In a small village
in France.

1512
01:20:44,673 --> 01:20:49,478
It took a long time <br / > to convince him
even meet us.

1513
01:20:53,616 --> 01:20:57,153
We have met him
in a small hotel.

1514
01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:59,622
Mr. Carroll, he can't
explain to us

1515
01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:04,260
why isn't he being sued
Hillary with a conspiracy. </ P>

1516
01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:06,062
I got a different one
that impression

1517
01:21:06,095 --> 01:21:09,565
p>

1518
01:21:09,598 --> 01:21:13,102
Mr. Carroll wants to know
more about what we know about him

1519
01:21:13,136 --> 01:21:14,537
than what he will do
tell us about Loughinisland. </ P>

1520
01:21:14,570 --> 01:21:16,172
GIBNEY:
Did you show Albert Carroll

1521
01:21:16,205 --> 01:21:17,240
the leaked report
where was he named? </ P>

1522
01:21:17,273 --> 01:21:18,507
Yes. </ P>

1523
01:21:18,541 --> 01:21:21,244
What is the reaction

1524
01:21:21,277 --> 01:21:22,345
when he saw how much
do you know about his role?

1525
01:21:22,378 --> 01:21:24,080
He polluted himself.

1526
01:21:27,683 --> 01:21:29,352
[CREW LAUGH]

1527
01:21:29,385 --> 01:21:30,987
Yes. </ p >

1528
01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:32,321
He is very defensive...

1529
01:21:32,355 --> 01:21:34,190
Yes, yes.

1530
01:21:38,261 --> 01:21:40,396
GIBNEY:
Carroll keeps a secret,

1531
01:21:40,429 --> 01:21:43,232
but he reveals
new details.

1532
01:21:43,266 --> 01:21:46,335
When Hillary was arrested,
Ronnie was there.

1533
01:21:46,369 --> 01:21:49,538
Ronnie knows about the letter
and why it was written.

1534
01:21:49,572 --> 01:21:51,240
But instead of
filling Hillary,

1535
01:21:51,274 --> 01:21:53,076
or using him <br / > to get to Ronnie,

1536
01:21:53,109 --> 01:21:56,012
Carroll releases him
with a vague promise

1537
01:21:56,045 --> 01:21:57,246
that he will help ensure

1538
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,482
that her husband
will not kill in the future.

1539
01:22:03,019 --> 01:22:04,653
What do you suspect?
is the reason

1540
01:22:04,687 --> 01:22:06,089
Hillary is never billed?

1541
01:22:08,524 --> 01:22:09,658
I suspect

1542
01:22:12,695 --> 01:22:14,563
that the author
this letter

1543
01:22:16,365 --> 01:22:18,267
was not billed to ensure

1544
01:22:18,301 --> 01:22:20,236
that the police were wider

1545
01:22:20,269 --> 01:22:22,371
the intelligence agenda
was not interrupted.

1546
01:22:23,339 --> 01:22:24,974
There is a
sort of culture

1547
01:22:26,509 --> 01:22:28,444
image building.

1548
01:22:30,513 --> 01:22:33,582
Requirements for
intelligence gathering are

1549
01:22:34,517 --> 01:22:37,620
more strategic
than that

1550
01:22:40,289 --> 01:22:42,325
to serve criminals
justice system.

1551
01:22:43,726 --> 01:22:49,498
And the intelligence tail
starts wiggling the dog. </ P>

1552
01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:56,639
GIBNEY:
The problem depends on the case. </ P>

1553
01:22:56,672 --> 01:22:58,707
What is intelligence
and protects the informant

1554
01:22:58,741 --> 01:23:00,643
more important
than solving crimes?

1555
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:02,845
And just before the murder,

1556
01:23:02,878 --> 01:23:05,714
what did the police know
and when did they know that?

1557
01:23:08,151 --> 01:23:12,321
BINNS: So two, maybe three
months after the murder,

1558
01:23:12,355 --> 01:23:14,590
on a certain night,
late at night,

1559
01:23:14,623 --> 01:23:15,691
half hour 10:00,
11 o'clock,

1560
01:23:15,724 --> 01:23:18,727
I am in the country bar,
that should be

1561
01:23:18,761 --> 01:23:21,497
about ten or 15 miles
far away from Loughinisland.

1562
01:23:21,530 --> 01:23:25,168
And two detectives entered,
my colleagues.

1563
01:23:25,201 --> 01:23:28,404
They just visited
a meeting in Armagh,

1564
01:23:28,437 --> 01:23:33,442
which senior > Detective Chief Inspector
will become. </ P>

1565
01:23:33,476 --> 01:23:37,080
And in that conversation
with one of them,

1566
01:23:37,113 --> 01:23:40,316
of
ear shots from someone else,

1567
01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:43,519
p>

1568
01:23:43,552 --> 01:23:46,789
what was said to me was that
there was a phone call

1569
01:23:46,822 --> 01:23:50,459
made at 6:00 a.m.
night filming,

1570
01:23:50,493 --> 01:23:52,828
and that the shooting < br /> has been canceled.

1571
01:23:52,861 --> 01:23:54,230
There have been telephone calls
made by the informant

1572
01:23:54,263 --> 01:23:55,831
at 6:00 a.m.

1573
01:23:55,864 --> 01:23:57,733
said the shooting
has been canceled,

1574
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,176
because the
car is unreliable.

1575
01:24:07,210 --> 01:24:09,545
GIBNEY: We know that
the murder was not canceled,

1576
01:24:09,578 --> 01:24:10,713
that there are plans,

1577
01:24:10,746 --> 01:24:13,416
and that the killers
have problems with their cars?

1578
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,756
[READING DENISON]

1579
01:24:31,234 --> 01:24:32,335
GIBNEY: < br /> According to the letter,

1580
01:24:32,368 --> 01:24:35,371
Person A is Ronnie Hawthorn,
the shooter.

1581
01:24:35,404 --> 01:24:38,141
My person is McMullan,
driver.

1582
01:24:38,174 --> 01:24:41,377
M people are Alan Taylor,
the man holding the door.

1583
01:24:43,746 --> 01:24:45,514
An informant told the police

1584
01:24:45,548 --> 01:24:47,583
that the three of them were on
Main Street in Newcastle?

1585
01:24:47,616 --> 01:24:48,784
Yes.

1586
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:52,688
"During tea
June 18, 1994,

1587
01:24:52,721 --> 01:24:55,124
" phone calls were made
to Frenchie & apos; s Bar,

1588
01:24:55,158 --> 01:24:57,260
"either by Person A
or Person M,

1589
01:24:57,293 --> 01:25:00,095
asking to speak
Person B immediately."

1590
01:25:02,631 --> 01:25:04,500
GIBNEY: How can
Special Branch knows that?

1591
01:25:07,570 --> 01:25:09,138
I can't tell you that.

1592
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:12,741
I know how they
know that,

1593
01:25:12,775 --> 01:25:14,610
but I can't tell you,
I'm sorry.

1594
01:25:14,643 --> 01:25:17,180
This is very legitimate
how are they know that.

1595
01:25:17,213 --> 01:25:19,148
Is there a bug
calling?

1596
01:25:19,182 --> 01:25:20,316
This is not.

1597
01:25:22,885 --> 01:25:25,654
Well, it is one of those people <br / > involving an informant?

1598
01:25:28,857 --> 01:25:30,393
DENISON:
What I will say is that

1599
01:25:30,426 --> 01:25:32,428
we have seen
intelligence that says

1600
01:25:32,461 --> 01:25:34,730
one the legitimate
suspect in the investigation

1601
01:25:34,763 --> 01:25:36,265
was a police informant

1602
01:25:36,299 --> 01:25:38,201
and continued
for some time afterwards.

1603
01:25:40,969 --> 01:25:42,671
GIBNEY: And that can happened
more than one,

1604
01:25:42,705 --> 01:25:43,772
or at least one?

1605
01:25:44,673 --> 01:25:45,874
At least one.

1606
01:25:45,908 --> 01:25:49,312
I mean, we have
specifically identified one

1607
01:25:49,345 --> 01:25:53,716
uh, inside the suspect
that group

1608
01:25:53,749 --> 01:25:56,785
for our investigation
the purpose is relevant.

1609
01:25:56,819 --> 01:25:59,422
But of course there can be
more than one in it,

1610
01:25:59,455 --> 01:26:01,324
but we only
concerned with one.

1611
01:26:03,692 --> 01:26:05,361
BINNS: Generally
on the ground,

1612
01:26:05,394 --> 01:26:07,930
people want to solve crimes
and catch criminals.

1613
01:26:07,963 --> 01:26:11,467
But in Loughinisland,
the informant was involved,

1614
01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:13,502
and that's where
the line became blurry. </ P>

1615
01:26:15,371 --> 01:26:18,974
If the event took place
without any informants,

1616
01:26:19,007 --> 01:26:21,410
it's only
direct murder

1617
01:26:21,444 --> 01:26:24,413
nothing can be done
about,
no one knows about it.

1618
01:26:24,447 --> 01:26:27,383
But then when something
can intervene
and no,

1619
01:26:27,416 --> 01:26:29,918
that raises
lots of questions.

1620
01:26:37,426 --> 01:26:39,395
McCAFFREY: Special Branch
has intelligence

1621
01:26:39,428 --> 01:26:43,499
on these individuals
before the attack

1622
01:26:43,532 --> 01:26:46,602
and then the vacation car
is found

1623
01:26:46,635 --> 01:26:49,472
a short distance from
family home

1624
01:26:49,505 --> 01:26:51,907
Man A, Ronnie Hawthorn.

1625
01:26:53,709 --> 01:26:57,613
But the police never looked for
Hawthorns family home.

1626
01:26:58,914 --> 01:27:00,983
It was never
searched.

1627
01:27:02,651 --> 01:27:04,453
MAGUIRE: Another critical
piece of information

1628
01:27:04,487 --> 01:27:06,422
we found disturbing
was that

1629
01:27:06,455 --> 01:27:09,392
individuals who
were arrested in August,

1630
01:27:09,425 --> 01:27:10,493
at the end of August,

1631
01:27:10,526 --> 01:27:12,795
were warned the night before

1632
01:27:12,828 --> 01:27:15,298
that they
will be arrested.

1633
01:27:15,331 --> 01:27:16,399
And then for that,

1634
01:27:16,432 --> 01:27:19,902
we know that the police
then get more information

1635
01:27:19,935 --> 01:27:21,637
that the individual
who warned them

1636
01:27:21,670 --> 01:27:23,639
had become a police officer,

1637
01:27:23,672 --> 01:27:25,674
and that
was very concerning.

1638
01:27:29,011 --> 01:27:30,746
GIBNEY: Of the four
suspects warned,

1639
01:27:30,779 --> 01:27:33,916
the most important is
Person A, Ronnie Hawthorn.

1640
01:27:35,318 --> 01:27:36,419
Before going to Loughinisland,

1641
01:27:36,452 --> 01:27:38,721
he has been charged
connection with one murder

1642
01:27:38,754 --> 01:27:41,056
and was involved in
another string.

1643
01:27:41,089 --> 01:27:42,791
In the case of slaughter,

1644
01:27:42,825 --> 01:27:46,061
he was named that day
after being suspected of being possible,

1645
01:27:46,094 --> 01:27:48,764
and the vacation car
was found within walking distance

1646
01:27:48,797 --> 01:27:51,033
from his family's home.

1647
01:27:51,066 --> 01:27:52,868
Even though the police
waited two months

1648
01:27:52,901 --> 01:27:55,538
before Hawthorn finally
was taken for questioning.

1649
01:27:58,073 --> 01:28:01,377
BINNS: We interviewed
Hawthorn, huh.

1650
01:28:01,410 --> 01:28:02,845
He has been arrested
early morning,

1651
01:28:02,878 --> 01:28:05,614
maybe five o'clock, six o'clock
in the morning.

1652
01:28:05,648 --> 01:28:08,584
GIBNEY: Is Hawthorn itself 
seems arrogant
in the interview?

1653
01:28:08,617 --> 01:28:11,820
I mean, is he,
You know, quite relaxed?

1654
01:28:11,854 --> 01:28:14,022
He is not stressed,
that is certain.

1655
01:28:14,056 --> 01:28:16,492
In my mind
he is just a terrorist.

1656
01:28:16,525 --> 01:28:18,894
Only a person who is hateful...
a hatred...

1657
01:28:20,729 --> 01:28:23,966
uh, fanatic you know,

1658
01:28:23,999 --> 01:28:27,536
Killing a Catholic to him
like wiping his shoes,

1659
01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:28,904
flies from his shoes.

1660
01:28:28,937 --> 01:28:32,007
That's him for me.

1661
01:28:33,041 --> 01:28:36,579
And if I have
blocking his way ,

1662
01:28:36,612 --> 01:28:38,046
I don't doubt he
has shot me too.

1663
01:28:44,587 --> 01:28:46,088
GIBNEY:
Inside the police station,

1664
01:28:46,121 --> 01:28:49,124
the interrogation 
more than a little strange.

1665
01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:51,460
The actual question
about Loughinisland

1666
01:28:51,494 --> 01:28:53,629
only lasts
about ten minutes.

1667
01:28:54,497 --> 01:28:55,798
[GATE CLANGS SHUT ]

1668
01:28:55,831 --> 01:28:57,866
This is a kind of
from plays,

1669
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:01,437
it's like I have to talk
to you about something,

1670
01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:02,571
but we only
pretend to be here?

1671
01:29:02,605 --> 01:29:04,907
"We have to be here
for two hours,
let's chat.

1672
01:29:06,108 --> 01:29:08,577
"Okay? We have to do it
to be here for two hours. </ P>

1673
01:29:08,611 --> 01:29:11,880
You killed these people,
You are a gunman. "

1674
01:29:11,914 --> 01:29:13,015
" No, I'm not. "

1675
01:29:13,048 --> 01:29:14,116
" All right.

1676
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:16,385
"You know, we won't go
to get a place here.

1677
01:29:16,419 --> 01:29:17,453
"You won't
admit it.

1678
01:29:17,486 --> 01:29:19,422
It's okay,
let's chat. "

1679
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:22,858
GIBNEY:
Then the conversation

1680
01:29:22,891 --> 01:29:25,628
turned away from
interrogating Hawthorn,

1681
01:29:25,661 --> 01:29:28,897
to encourage him
to commit murder.

1682
01:29:28,931 --> 01:29:32,501
To kill an IRA gunman
who is a threat
to the Detective.

1683
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:37,506
BINNS: So this Detective
spends most of the time

1684
01:29:37,540 --> 01:29:43,446
telling Hawthorn that if he
does not kill this
Catholic armed men immediately,

1685
01:29:44,547 --> 01:29:47,115
this Catholic gunman
will make it.

1686
01:29:47,149 --> 01:29:49,151
So you tell the cat
turn off the mouse

1687
01:29:49,184 --> 01:29:50,619
before the mouse makes you,

1688
01:29:50,653 --> 01:29:52,154
because I'm afraid
of the mice that killed me.

1689
01:29:54,022 --> 01:29:56,024
If that makes sense.

1690
01:29:56,058 --> 01:29:57,526
GIBNEY: So he
tells Hawthorn,

1691
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,962
"You better get
this Catholic gunman." </ P>

1692
01:29:59,995 --> 01:30:02,064
"Because he left
to get you." </ P>

1693
01:30:02,097 --> 01:30:03,532
But why did he do that? </ P> >

1694
01:30:03,566 --> 01:30:06,001
Because I petrified it
the man came for me.

1695
01:30:09,838 --> 01:30:13,842
And then Hawthorn
was released from Armagh,
Gough Barracks,

1696
01:30:13,876 --> 01:30:17,079
maybe about
six o'clock the next night.

1697
01:30:17,112 --> 01:30:19,482
It's just disgusting,
first.

1698
01:30:22,885 --> 01:30:26,755
GIBNEY: Five years later,
Hawthorn is captured again.

1699
01:30:26,789 --> 01:30:29,725
DNA tests on hair
found in the duffle bag

1700
01:30:29,758 --> 01:30:32,595
revealed a match
for the Hawthorn family.

1701
01:30:32,628 --> 01:30:34,663
But within a day
he was released

1702
01:30:34,697 --> 01:30:36,465
caused by
proof not enough.

1703
01:30:38,133 --> 01:30:40,503
I never wanted to believe
there was collusion

1704
01:30:40,536 --> 01:30:42,237
in one of the murders
I was on.

1705
01:30:42,270 --> 01:30:46,074
But Loughinisland,
You have to say someone
is being protected.

1706
01:30:46,108 --> 01:30:48,811
And the truth is happening
detained from family.

1707
01:30:52,214 --> 01:30:55,551
There are no vehicles at all
to complete the murder.

1708
01:31:01,189 --> 01:31:04,459
[SOLEMN MUSIC PLAYING]

1709
01:31:19,908 --> 01:31:21,544
GIBNEY: Hope for
the family arrives

1710
01:31:21,577 --> 01:31:23,746
with that notification
the Ombudsman is near

1711
01:31:23,779 --> 01:31:25,247
the end of the investigation.

1712
01:31:26,181 --> 01:31:28,083
In the spring of 2016,

1713
01:31:28,116 --> 01:31:30,886
I traveled back
to Loughinisland
for now

1714
01:31:30,919 --> 01:31:33,689
in a private meeting with
the victim's family

1715
01:31:33,722 --> 01:31:37,626
when will Maguire reveal it
what did he find.

1716
01:31:37,660 --> 01:31:39,094
CLAIRE: What do you think
the results of this will happen?

1717
01:31:39,127 --> 01:31:41,263
EMMA : I don't know,
I almost
fear thinking about it. </ P>

1718
01:31:41,296 --> 01:31:43,265
I don't want to think
about that too. </ P>

1719
01:31:43,298 --> 01:31:46,134
It can't be worse < br /> than the last one,

1720
01:31:46,168 --> 01:31:48,170
but you can't survive
lots of hope.

1721
01:31:48,704 --> 01:31:50,939
No.

1722
01:31:50,973 --> 01:31:52,107
We have been disappointed
Multiplied again,

1723
01:31:52,140 --> 01:31:54,209
we don't want to get
our hope again.

1724
01:31:55,210 --> 01:31:56,311
No but...

1725
01:31:56,344 --> 01:31:57,946
It's hard to believe
that after so many long time

1726
01:31:57,980 --> 01:32:01,917
they might finally admit the truth.

1727
01:32:03,586 --> 01:32:04,987
Hopefully.

1728
01:32:18,834 --> 01:32:20,636
CLAIRE: My grandchildren
are now starting to ask,

1729
01:32:20,669 --> 01:32:21,737
"What happened to Grandad?

1730
01:32:21,770 --> 01:32:24,272
Has anyone gone to jail?
Is there being punished? "

1731
01:32:24,306 --> 01:32:26,642
Because children are taught
from a height not

1732
01:32:26,675 --> 01:32:28,276
if you are wrong
you will be punished.

1733
01:32:28,310 --> 01:32:30,646
Should you sent to
your room or, you know,

1734
01:32:30,679 --> 01:32:32,180
you won't get it
candy or whatever.

1735
01:32:32,214 --> 01:32:33,281
You have to study...

1736
01:32:33,315 --> 01:32:34,950
EMMA: Get you
Play Station taken from you.

1737
01:32:34,983 --> 01:32:37,219
Play your station, whatever.
I see...

1738
01:32:40,188 --> 01:32:41,556
So, I need an answer for him.

1739
01:33:28,436 --> 01:33:31,006
[CHATTER INDISTINCT]

1740
01:34:20,222 --> 01:34:21,890
Okay, ready to go?

1741
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:29,231
Good afternoon.

1742
01:34:29,264 --> 01:34:30,766
ALL: Good afternoon. </ p >

1743
01:34:31,499 --> 01:34:33,068
Um...

1744
01:34:34,336 --> 01:34:35,938
Today is the day

1745
01:34:35,971 --> 01:34:37,072
we have
already waiting.

1746
01:34:38,340 --> 01:34:39,942
It's been a long time,

1747
01:34:39,975 --> 01:34:42,477
it's longer than it should be
already, I think,

1748
01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:44,780
and I am of course
aware of people

1749
01:34:44,813 --> 01:34:46,181
who wants
already here,

1750
01:34:46,214 --> 01:34:48,316
but can't pass
the passage of time,

1751
01:34:48,350 --> 01:34:49,985
and my sympathy
for those families.

1752
01:34:51,253 --> 01:34:54,389
Thank you for following my
as we approach

1753
01:34:54,422 --> 01:34:57,492
to the publication
this report.

1754
01:34:57,525 --> 01:34:59,795
I appreciate
your patience,

1755
01:34:59,828 --> 01:35:02,230
even though I
admit that sometimes

1756
01:35:02,264 --> 01:35:03,431
we don't deserve it.

1757
01:35:03,465 --> 01:35:06,201
But I'm grateful
the fact you have 
work with me

1758
01:35:06,234 --> 01:35:09,938
while we have edged
towards the publication
this document.

1759
01:35:09,972 --> 01:35:12,440
I will
tell you my conclusion, </ p >

1760
01:35:12,474 --> 01:35:14,042
then I go
to tell you

1761
01:35:14,076 --> 01:35:16,111
how I arrived
to that conclusion

1762
01:35:16,144 --> 01:35:18,814
based on the
information we received.

1763
01:35:21,850 --> 01:35:23,018
When I see
in all the information,

1764
01:35:23,051 --> 01:35:25,053
I will explain
this afternoon,

1765
01:35:25,087 --> 01:35:28,757
I don't hesitate
saying that collusion

1766
01:35:28,791 --> 01:35:30,225
is an important element

1767
01:35:30,258 --> 01:35:32,828
in relation to murder
in Loughinisland.

1768
01:35:34,529 --> 01:35:38,934
This report is divided
into three areas.

1769
01:35:40,135 --> 01:35:43,138
Import weapons
in 1987,

1770
01:35:43,171 --> 01:35:46,875
events before
attack on Loughinisland,

1771
01:35:46,909 --> 01:35:48,977
investigation
into...

1772
01:35:55,550 --> 01:35:58,353
MURPHY: This is 22 years
that these families

1773
01:35:58,386 --> 01:36:00,923
have waited patiently,

1774
01:36:02,124 --> 01:36:06,494
p>

1775
01:36:06,528 --> 01:36:10,465
with dignity, they have
campaigned fiercely.

1776
01:36:10,498 --> 01:36:12,835
Everyone knows
the pain and trauma

1777
01:36:12,868 --> 01:36:17,005
that you have gone through.

1778
01:36:17,039 --> 01:36:20,108
has dignity
returned to them.

1779
01:36:20,142 --> 01:36:24,046
That's what we want
is someone
to tell the truth.

1780
01:36:25,313 --> 01:36:27,115
Everyone < br /> in this room,

1781
01:36:28,283 --> 01:36:30,552
what we want is the truth
about what happened.

1782
01:36:35,423 --> 01:36:37,459
CLAIRE:
It's hard to accept.

1783
01:36:40,295 --> 01:36:44,299
There are parts of it
You have to park it,

1784
01:36:47,870 --> 01:36:50,873
because I can't
take it all.

1785
01:36:52,274 --> 01:36:53,575
Sorry.

1786
01:37:02,317 --> 01:37:04,920
[ HANDBOOK]

1787
01:37:09,291 --> 01:37:12,327
This report is one of
most burdensome expositions

1788
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,529
state collusion
in mass murder

1789
01:37:14,562 --> 01:37:16,364
ever there
has been published.

1790
01:37:16,398 --> 01:37:19,968
We have the truth today,
22 years.

1791
01:37:20,002 --> 01:37:23,238
Now it's time for justice
and accountability.

1792
01:37:23,271 --> 01:37:25,440
We all deserve to receive it
and demand justice

1793
01:37:25,473 --> 01:37:28,410
from the British government
who is responsible.

1794
01:37:30,445 --> 01:37:34,116
CASEMENT: This is
the tip of the iceberg,

1795
01:37:34,149 --> 01:37:36,318
but there are still two thirds
it is buried below.

1796
01:37:38,286 --> 01:37:40,388
Publication
the report,

1797
01:37:40,422 --> 01:37:41,323
it causes ripples,

1798
01:37:41,356 --> 01:37:45,227
that it has happened to
many other cases </ p >

1799
01:37:45,260 --> 01:37:47,495
and many people
hopefully

1800
01:37:47,529 --> 01:37:51,599
will get
little hope

1801
01:37:51,633 --> 01:37:56,871
that they can get answers
somewhere along the line,

1802
01:37:58,006 --> 01:38:00,508
and just save
hammering it.

1803
01:38:01,676 --> 01:38:04,679
This is 160 pages.

1804
01:38:04,712 --> 01:38:09,151
If you remember the last one
reported in 2011 was 63 page,

1805
01:38:09,184 --> 01:38:12,220
and the substance
may be around 55.

1806
01:38:12,254 --> 01:38:17,225
So there is a very large number of details in this case

1807
01:38:17,259 --> 01:38:20,128
GIBNEY: Temuan itu
kolusi adalah kemenangan
untuk keluarga.

1808
01:38:20,162 --> 01:38:23,331
But there are a lot of
details that aren't revealed to them.

1809
01:38:23,365 --> 01:38:25,600
These details
I've found.

1810
01:38:25,633 --> 01:38:27,302
The names of
the murder suspect,

1811
01:38:27,335 --> 01:38:28,703
fill in the letter,

1812
01:38:28,736 --> 01:38:32,707
the strange role is played
by the suspect
the wife of an armed man.

1813
01:38:32,740 --> 01:38:34,709
Then there's the question <br Why is the police

1814
01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:37,245
still denied
to charge anyone.

1815
01:38:37,279 --> 01:38:40,348
It is connected
to the mystery
that still haunts the case.

1816
01:38:40,382 --> 01:38:42,617
Who is the informant?

1817
01:38:42,650 --> 01:38:44,987
MURPHY: There must be an
accountability.

1818
01:38:45,020 --> 01:38:48,023
Maguire has more
information to give us a briefing, </ p >

1819
01:38:48,056 --> 01:38:52,094
so what he told us
had made headlines
and they...

1820
01:38:52,127 --> 01:38:54,963
There were others
incidents and murders

1821
01:38:54,997 --> 01:38:56,664
which is called
in the report,

1822
01:38:56,698 --> 01:39:02,204
and I have been approached
by some of those families,

1823
01:39:02,237 --> 01:39:05,507
one of them is the family
from Martin Lavery,

1824
01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:09,511
who was killed on
20 December,
1992. </ P>

1825
01:39:11,179 --> 01:39:12,314
We know from that report

1826
01:39:12,347 --> 01:39:15,050
the four people
were responsible for his murder. </ P>

1827
01:39:15,083 --> 01:39:18,720
People A, M , K
and my people. </ P>

1828
01:39:20,622 --> 01:39:23,025
The Lavery family,
correctly,

1829
01:39:23,058 --> 01:39:25,160
feels there
is a question

1830
01:39:25,193 --> 01:39:27,495
that they have it
a decent answer to.

1831
01:39:29,264 --> 01:39:31,499
Through a process of
legal disclosure

1832
01:39:31,533 --> 01:39:34,602
at a meeting with people
in a position to know ,

1833
01:39:34,636 --> 01:39:37,739
Mr. Lavery's family
asked firmly

1834
01:39:37,772 --> 01:39:39,474
was one of the
people involved

1835
01:39:39,507 --> 01:39:42,344
in the Martin murder 
/> an informant?

1836
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:47,515
We were told that at
at the time of Martin's murder,

1837
01:39:47,549 --> 01:39:49,451
none of them were informants.

1838
01:39:52,187 --> 01:39:56,258
However, one of them
individuals was the informant

1839
01:39:56,291 --> 01:39:58,160
at the time of
Loughinisland atrocities.

1840
01:40:00,662 --> 01:40:03,265
GIBNEY: Knowing that
one in four people,

1841
01:40:03,298 --> 01:40:07,402
I approach the source
with access to
Special Branch files. </ P>

1842
01:40:07,435 --> 01:40:10,072
Nervous, 
he won't name names,

1843
01:40:10,105 --> 01:40:12,340
but he confirms that
one of the gangs that night

1844
01:40:12,374 --> 01:40:15,477
works for
British country
as an informant

1845
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:18,080
when Person A,
Ronnie Hawthorne,

1846
01:40:18,113 --> 01:40:21,083
is reportedly emptying the weapon
being a bar full of people

1847
01:40:21,116 --> 01:40:22,650
watching the World Cup.

1848
01:40:29,391 --> 01:40:30,792
One of the things
we have learned,

1849
01:40:30,825 --> 01:40:33,528
is not
in the Maguire report,

1850
01:40:33,561 --> 01:40:35,730
is that among the gangs
who killed your husband ,

1851
01:40:35,763 --> 01:40:38,133
there is at least
one informant.

1852
01:40:38,166 --> 01:40:39,367
Have you ever heard that?

1853
01:40:39,401 --> 01:40:40,402
No.

1854
01:40:41,703 --> 01:40:43,271
Does that surprise you?

1855
01:40:45,107 --> 01:40:46,308
Not really.

1856
01:40:46,341 --> 01:40:48,042
Nothing is surprising me again.

1857
01:40:50,212 --> 01:40:51,479
[Sighs] Um...

1858
01:40:54,749 --> 01:40:56,551
I think it's news for me,

1859
01:40:56,584 --> 01:40:58,453
but not.
No, nothing surprised me.

1860
01:40:58,486 --> 01:41:00,688
I just don't know

1861
01:41:00,722 --> 01:41:05,059
how really foul
this whole system is.

1862
01:41:07,429 --> 01:41:10,698
COMMENTATOR TELEVISION:
There are shots and
This is Ireland's destination.

1863
01:41:13,835 --> 01:41:15,670
GIBNEY: I told the family
what I learned

1864
01:41:15,703 --> 01:41:17,139
about the massacre

1865
01:41:17,172 --> 01:41:19,641
that went beyond < br>> Maguire reports.

1866
01:41:19,674 --> 01:41:21,476
Suspect names,

1867
01:41:21,509 --> 01:41:24,146
and my suspicions
that they are
still protected

1868
01:41:24,179 --> 01:41:27,149
by some parts
British government.

1869
01:41:27,182 --> 01:41:30,185
People named as
second shooters,
Alan Taylor,

1870
01:41:30,218 --> 01:41:32,554
left Northern Ireland
in the late 90s,

1871
01:41:32,587 --> 01:41:34,456
and was last seen in the UK.

1872
01:41:42,864 --> 01:41:46,334
Gorman McMullan, the man
was named the driver of the car ,

1873
01:41:46,368 --> 01:41:47,469
living in Belfast.

1874
01:41:48,603 --> 01:41:51,806
A member of H and W
Welder Club,

1875
01:41:51,839 --> 01:41:53,608
he regularly turns out
for parades

1876
01:41:53,641 --> 01:41:55,510
celebrate UVF,

1877
01:41:55,543 --> 01:41:58,813
and appear on social media
on the sex club website.

1878
01:42:08,423 --> 01:42:11,226
If you drive four miles
from Loughinisland ,

1879
01:42:11,259 --> 01:42:12,827
you can find
village roads

1880
01:42:12,860 --> 01:42:14,862
scattered with beautiful houses,

1881
01:42:14,896 --> 01:42:18,266
where is Person A,
Ronnie Hawthorn, life.

1882
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:20,502
He is still together
with his wife Hillary,

1883
01:42:20,535 --> 01:42:21,869
who named him as a gunman.

1884
01:42:25,307 --> 01:42:27,542
When calls and letters
failed get an answer,

1885
01:42:27,575 --> 01:42:29,211
we rent private eyes

1886
01:42:29,244 --> 01:42:31,446
to see if we can find out what
looks like.

1887
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,249
[CAMERA SHUTTER SNAPPING]

1888
01:42:37,252 --> 01:42:39,487
This photo
they both work.

1889
01:42:40,755 --> 01:42:44,226
>

1890
01:42:44,259 --> 01:42:46,928
They have a small company
who cleans the office,

1891
01:42:46,961 --> 01:42:48,863
and for companies
controlled by pests,

1892
01:42:54,569 --> 01:42:55,903
offers destruction
services.

1893
01:43:15,757 --> 01:43:16,891
[O & apos; TOOE SPEAKING]

1894
01:43:28,803 --> 01:43:30,538
Then...

1895
01:44:03,405 --> 01:44:05,540
[O & apos; TOOE SPEAKING]

1896
01:44:05,573 --> 01:44:07,609
CLAIRE: This is a kind of brand /> I look over my shoulder

1897
01:44:07,642 --> 01:44:08,843
that I can meet
these people in the course
my work,

1898
01:44:10,578 --> 01:44:11,813
or go to the store.

1899
01:44:11,846 --> 01:44:13,247
I might not know what form
is like,

1900
01:44:14,616 --> 01:44:16,050
but they will know me.

1901
01:44:16,083 --> 01:44:17,719
And that makes me a little,

1902
01:44:20,588 --> 01:44:22,390
if not much...

1903
01:44:29,931 --> 01:44:31,733
GIBNEY: It's hard to
understand why,

1904
01:44:31,766 --> 01:44:33,801
more than 20 years
after that crime,

1905
01:44:33,835 --> 01:44:36,037
when so many things are known
about the suspects,

1906
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:38,540
that they cannot be prosecuted.

1907
01:44:38,573 --> 01:44:40,041
Of course,
even if proven guilty,

1908
01:44:40,074 --> 01:44:42,610
they will only
serve two years.

1909
01:44:42,644 --> 01:44:44,646
To bring peace
to Northern Ireland,

1910
01:44:44,679 --> 01:44:47,715
that is an agreement made under
Good Friday Agreement,

1911
01:44:47,749 --> 01:44:49,851
for each murder involved
with Troubles.

1912
01:44:58,393 --> 01:45:00,728
MAYHEW: For those who
have killed these people,

1913
01:45:00,762 --> 01:45:02,697
you will be
caught sooner or later.

1914
01:45:02,730 --> 01:45:06,368
The RUC never gives up.

1915
01:45:06,401 --> 01:45:10,438
And you will be arrested
and you will spend
years in prison.

1916
01:45:10,472 --> 01:45:12,740
Thank you very much.

1917
01:45:12,774 --> 01:45:16,611
CLAIRE: The government first
tried to use us as pawns

1918
01:45:16,644 --> 01:45:18,880
to try and bring peace
to Northern Ireland.

1919
01:45:20,715 --> 01:45:22,817
Protecting informants is
far more important

1920
01:45:22,850 --> 01:45:25,787
than bringing
people to court

1921
01:45:25,820 --> 01:45:28,890
that was done
this atrocity.

1922
01:45:28,923 --> 01:45:32,059
It looks like
as if hands tied.

1923
01:45:33,027 --> 01:45:34,128
That...

1924
01:45:34,161 --> 01:45:35,363
GIBNEY:
What do you mean?

1925
01:45:36,764 --> 01:45:38,032
I think it rises higher.

1926
01:45:39,066 --> 01:45:40,668
I really believe that. </ P>

1927
01:45:40,702 --> 01:45:42,336
we believe that

1928
01:45:44,806 --> 01:45:47,875
went so far,
right up. </ P>

1929
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,941
WARE: What happened
The country leaving

1930
01:46:19,974 --> 01:46:23,745
turns a blind eye
for this murder activity?

1931
01:46:26,548 --> 01:46:28,883
It is very difficult to appear
with an answer.

1932
01:46:28,916 --> 01:46:30,752
That must happen
pretty good. </ P>

1933
01:46:30,785 --> 01:46:32,987
Saya tidak bisa membayangkan
apa itu mungkin.

1934
01:46:35,957 --> 01:46:38,960
The fact is,
I will say further

1935
01:46:38,993 --> 01:46:42,530
the prize cannot be
possible

1936
01:46:42,564 --> 01:46:46,834
according to the consequences
of that death.

1937
01:46:51,172 --> 01:46:54,041
p>

1938
01:46:54,075 --> 01:46:57,044
The reason
is important Loughinisland,

1939
01:46:57,078 --> 01:47:00,114
because of that
other insights

1940
01:47:00,147 --> 01:47:06,087
become that kind of
compromise

1941
01:47:13,828 --> 01:47:16,864
that we as a state are made
on moral and legal standards.

1942
01:47:17,932 --> 01:47:21,168
Every democracy must
make that compromise.

1943
01:47:23,605 --> 01:47:24,772
We, I think, are made, uh...

1944
01:47:24,806 --> 01:47:27,208
more compromises

1945
01:47:27,241 --> 01:47:33,581
than many of us
have realized,

1946
01:47:41,889 --> 01:47:43,024
because more images
hidden pasts are revealed.

1947
01:47:43,057 --> 01:47:45,727
GIBNEY: Year after year,

1948
01:47:47,729 --> 01:47:50,798
the past was ruled out
to make room for the future.

1949
01:47:50,832 --> 01:47:52,199
But for the families of the victims,
it's hard to accept.

1950
01:47:52,233 --> 01:47:54,235
and take into account
what happened and why.

1951
01:47:56,237 --> 01:47:57,939
Surrounded by
mountains notes

1952
01:47:57,972 --> 01:47:59,941
with many answers,

1953
01:47:59,974 --> 01:48:02,644
government officials
Decide every day

1954
01:48:02,677 --> 01:48:05,112
What they think
is good to remember,

1955
01:48:05,146 --> 01:48:07,715
and what is better
to be forgotten.

1956
01:48:07,749 --> 01:48:10,618
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