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My mother, my brothers...
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... we begin to form a harmony.
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Next thing, we were singing
at a talent search event.
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And win some
awards and trophies.
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That's how
all started.
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You go to school to study,
girl.
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Things that have never been
you know beforehand.
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Like E before I
except after C.
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And why is 2 + 2 = 4.
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I will teach you. /
Teach you, teach you.
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All things about love. /
All things about love.
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Sit your body,
sit down.
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All you have to do
is to follow me.
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A, B, C.
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Easy like,
1, 2, 3.
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As simple,
do it again.
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A, B, C.
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1, 2, 3.
Honey, you and me, girl.
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Hey, stop the movie!
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Hey, stop the movie.
Please!
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Hey, stop the movie!
Come on!
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Thank you.
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They want to hear I Want You Back,
ABC and The Love You Save./ Right.
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Dancing Machine,
Sugar Daddy, I'll Be There.
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Got To Be There,
Rockin 'Robin.
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You want to hear
Daddy's Home?
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Do you want to hear
those old things?
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The first reason I don't want
to sing old songs.
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Number 1,
it's an old song! correct?
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Number 2,
the choreography is outdated!
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Jackie is also old!
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- Wait a minute, Michael.
- Do you care about that?
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Do you care?
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Just like this...
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.. I will do those old things
for you guys, OK?
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But I do that for you,
not for them.
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I do it for you!
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When you become mine,
I don't want you by my side.
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Your beautiful face always makes you
glow among the others...
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Their first four songs
break the recording history.
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Because the four songs became hits number 1,
4 of their songs were the first...
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... they have recorded.
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Namely, I Want You Back./
ABC, The Love You Save.
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And I'll Be There.
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What happens after that,
we can travel anywhere.
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Eat hamburgers, go watch,
go shopping.
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So you can go anywhere.
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They become very successful
very quickly.
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Where none of Motown
have preparations for all that.
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-I want you to come back./
Uh, uh, baby.
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I want you to come back. /
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I want you to come back.
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Michael usually sings songs with feeling,
he will sing them...
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... with full feeling
and with lots of movements...
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... like he was here
before.
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Like he once
lived before.
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Vocally, Michael
like more beyond...
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... from what others can teach
.
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He came here
to find out about those things.
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That is already in the DNA.
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I know Michael
is very talented...
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... when he is 2 or 3 years old.
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Michael has a lot of rhythm,
and he likes to dance.
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I think he was born
to dance.
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Michael told me, first.
"Steve, I won't be a poor person."
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Imagine 11 children living in one house
with 2 rooms, in Gary, Indiana.
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Dan Gary, Indiana
is not Beverly Hills.
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That's very difficult.
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When you have children
like I have.
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And children,
they like to eat.
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So when they shout, they want food.
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You have to put something
into their hands.
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And I keep providing food on the table.
Lots of food stocks.
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Joseph does a great job
by creating this group.
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I can remember how much that meant to them.
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But especially Michael,
to succeed.
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I can say, to this day, Motown is the greatest school for me.
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Really, that's the best.
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I learned how to edit songs
also produce.
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I learned many things
in writing.
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A bit like a lecture
which teaches us everything about...
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... how to write songs and produce
and everything.
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And we learn a lot of
about the contents of the lyrics.
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How to produce songs
and become great artists.
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Motown has some
songwriters and the best artists in the world.
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This is us in Chicago.
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These are members of the Temptations group.
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The lowest is
the little Michael with Afro hair.
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And I'm right next to him.
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That's me,
you see?
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What Michael learned
to be great.
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You must be very diligent.
You have to work.
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He pays attention to people like Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder.
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The Temptations./
Smokey Robinson.
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All great people
we idolize.
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And the artists are
legends in the music industry...
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... where Michael is able to get close
observe them in the studio, their elements.
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I got my title
from Motown University.
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That's really an
atmosphere of competition.
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Competition gives birth to champions,
but you can't let the competition...
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... defeat love.
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So all of that is built
based on love.
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And Michael is a person who is full of love.
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And the atmosphere is integrated with it
very precisely.
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We learned a lot from
the great songwriters and producers.
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And when that time arrives,
you don't realize that.
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We are still children,
I don't know how to do this.
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And we learn
when we are together.
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Stop!
Na..na..na..na.
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You better save it
.
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Stop,
You should save it.
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When we play
hide and seek in SD.
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You want to be
the seeker.
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But chasing a boy
is just a fad.
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You promised
stop playing.
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Yes, that's the same confidence
like the touch of the Beatles...
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... many years ago.
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This time only,
a black teenage group.
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Led by a brother
11 years old.
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Dear, just slowly.
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Or one day
you will be alone.
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It's very inten. The worship of fans,
you must understand...
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... if all the children
who respond to The Jackson 5...
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... have never had
Mickey Mouse club...
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... with children like The
Jackson 5 appears on the camera.
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They represent the first group of teenagers
in our day.
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as an introduction to them
for all children.
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And at first, they were
black children.
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When I first saw Michael.
And that's the reason why I'm here.
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That's what motivates me
and makes me want to do...
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... what am I doing now.
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He is
all my inspiration.
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The boys practice,
almost all the time.
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Because kids out there
run on the streets and play...
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... Michael there trying to find a song or something.
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Michael wants to be the best
in whatever he does.
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The Jacksons 5 at all
don't worry about working.
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We at Motown
work day and night.
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I mean, this kid,
at the age of 9 years.
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Really serious.
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This kid, really serious,
really serious.
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I mean,
he's not kidding!
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Michael will ask Nick and me,
about our previous Motown songs.
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He is always curious,
how did you get this idea?
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What is this? What makes you
say that?
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Songs like
Is not Nothing Like The Real Thing.
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He really is a student.
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I am amazed by the fact that
Michael has this type of commitment...
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... and the type of dedication and
are very curious about all that.
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He always pays attention.
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He will always pay attention.
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Who else do you think makes the stage come alive...
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... besides me and Ed Sullivan?
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Wait.
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You start making me hot, boy.
Do you understand that?
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The best experience in the world.
Just sit on Wings and study.
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I digest all that.
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Michael will sit with me in the mixing session,
because I did a lot of mixing.
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He will sit there
for hours.
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I want to tell someone,
one of my assistants, say...
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... "My back began to dislocate,
but I know Michael is looking at me."
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The thing I like about Motown
is Berry Gordy.
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If he doesn't like a song,
he will go to the studio and edit it himself.
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Yes. BlackBerry, my opinion,
is possible...
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... the greatest person in recording
ever.
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Berry is very smart in choosing songs,
and delivering them in the right direction.
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Putting a song with the right taste,
to make it a hit song.
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He knows what is needed,
and everyone can't do that.
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Where WILLARD ends.
BEN starts.
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BEN starts coming.
from CINERAMA's output.
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And this time,
he is not alone.
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Then Ben appeared, a film soundtrack
about big rats.
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Wherever we tour, all people in the room ask to listen.
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We can't get out of the stage.
The audience started humming Ben's song.
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Appearances in Ben
songs at the 1973 Academy Awards...
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... was the first time Michael
really stepped alone.
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The first song nomination is Ben,
from Ben's film.
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A young man will be sung
where his talent is mature.
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But what age is recommended
...
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... maybe even he shouldn't
grow this late.
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Ben, both of us
don't need to search anymore.
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We have both found
what we are looking for.
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With friends for
is called my friend.
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Michael is part of your whole life.
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That's crazy, friend!
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When you were little,
with all the songs from The Jackson 5.
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And when you are a little mature
and go through your puberty.
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Your teenage years.
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Ben, you always run
here and there.
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And when you go to college,
he's always around you...
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... define a
part of your life.
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There are many steps
between the first day and Off The Wall.
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For me, the most heartbreaking is
when The Jackson 5 came out of Motown.
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Dancing, dancing, dancing.
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He is a dancer machine.
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Aw, baby.
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Move it,
dear.
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Automatic
systematically.
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Full color,
complete.
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Direct and soft
on your vibration.
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The Jackson 5 appears
like gum.
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No one has ever graduated from just
a group of cute little kids...
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... to be taken seriously.
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There are no child singers
you can appoint, besides Michael Jackson.
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Departing from really big...
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... become the biggest pop star
ever.
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Gratitude because
Dancing Machine.
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What they observed
was at Motown.
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What The Jacksons observed was,
many artists get creative freedom.
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Dancing, dancing,
dancer machines.
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Pay attention to him coming down,
note down.
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We want to write,
we want to produce our song.
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And our contract at Motown
does not justify doing it.
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Plus,
our contract expires at that time.
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And it's time
make changes.
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Two people named Ron Alexenburg
and Steve Popovich.
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They are with Epic, one Head of Promotion.
the only Head of A & R.
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They came to me and said,
"We will tie a contract with The Jacksons."
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As a group.
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Everything starts with the Warwick hotel,
there are only children in the entire hotel.
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I go to a doorman and say,
"What happened here?" " The Doorman said,
" The Jackson 5 is here! "
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That gives me a chance to leave,
in my own way.
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Enter the lobby, by telephone the hotel,
I call and say,
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"Please go to Michael Jackson".
They passed the stairs to room 805.
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Michael comes down with his father. I said,
"What do you want to do?"
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He said, "One day I want to make my own music".
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I said, "Really ?,
what if now?" " The group wants to leave Motown.
Joseph...
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My name is Joe Jackson. ..
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... to another level
that Motown can't do.
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I was told to
not contract Joseph.
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I was told that The Jacksons
are cartoon performers.
239
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240
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241
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I went to Walter Yetnikoff, my boss.
And say, "wait a minute...
242
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... The Jacksons are from Epic,
we call ourselves" Family Music "...
243
00:13:06,724 --> 00:13:09,263
..." this is family,
I want to contract them "
244
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I said," I don't know the number of recordings they sell. " So, I went to watch
Westbury Music Show.
245
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Michael was 15 years old
then. dead rat,
you remember, named Ben.
246
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I went back and told
the people at Epic, "are you crazy?" "You want to contract and
give them 3.5 million dollars?"
247
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248
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249
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250
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I said, "Walter, please.
You're new to this job."
251
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"And really not qualified
to judge this."
252
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I am the president of CBS only about 3 weeks
when the agreement was made.
253
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Walter then said,
"OK, I follow you"
254
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"It seems you know
who did"
255
00:13:39,129 --> 00:13:40,564
I told Ron,
"you might be right."
256
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That's my best step,
contracting The Jacksons.
257
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Like Ben.
258
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Like Ben.
259
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Like Ben.
260
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The most important moment of my life is
change from Motown to CBS.
261
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I am in another world.
I... O Lord.
262
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I don't know what is happening.
263
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Understanding the challenges of a prodigy
who must make the transition...
264
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... and become an actual artist.
265
00:14:22,534 --> 00:14:24,128
How many
are the courage needed...
266
00:14:24,153 --> 00:14:25,486
... to move
out of that.
267
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To present with
new music sounds.
268
00:14:27,825 --> 00:14:30,269
That can be a little creepy.
269
00:14:30,501 --> 00:14:34,562
A critical decision,
The Jackson 5 and their father...
270
00:14:34,590 --> 00:14:36,334
... Joe Jackson, decide
leave Motown.
271
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Produce a legal case...
272
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... where the changed name appears
into the Jacksons.
273
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I'm told I can't
use the name "Jackson 5".
274
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I say, "It's okay,
we call them, The Jacksons."
275
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Berry Gordy won't let
that name be used.
276
00:14:50,293 --> 00:14:54,792
We all at Motown sad he left.
Jermaine stays.
277
00:14:54,941 --> 00:14:58,836
Jermaine Jackson is married
with Berry Gordy's daughter, so...
278
00:14:59,018 --> 00:15:03,278
... maybe not a good idea leave Motown
to come with his family.
279
00:15:03,409 --> 00:15:05,355
We respect Jermaine
's decision because of that...
280
00:15:05,666 --> 00:15:07,562
... decisions that are difficult for him to take.
281
00:15:07,753 --> 00:15:10,872
I respect him for that,
he does what he wants to do.
282
00:15:10,892 --> 00:15:12,233
I want people to do what they want to do.
283
00:15:12,327 --> 00:15:15,370
Don't do what I want to do,
do what you think is best for you.
284
00:15:15,421 --> 00:15:18,250
Many things happen,
lots of tension.
285
00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:21,328
I'm not sure what will happen.
286
00:15:21,446 --> 00:15:24,775
I ask Michael,
"What will happen when people ask"
287
00:15:25,016 --> 00:15:27,057
"Why did you leave Motown?"
he said...
288
00:15:27,139 --> 00:15:29,549
"Because everything is possible,
with you on Epic Records"
289
00:15:29,758 --> 00:15:31,026
There's nothing more to say.
290
00:15:31,415 --> 00:15:34,774
With Columbia Records,
we want to sell 2 times more recordings.
291
00:15:34,852 --> 00:15:37,525
We want to do the things we dream of.
292
00:15:37,589 --> 00:15:41,482
That is not a popular contract in business.
even in the building.
293
00:15:42,729 --> 00:15:44,162
"Ron loses his senses."
294
00:15:44,412 --> 00:15:46,127
"The Jacksons take it,
they are over."
295
00:15:46,303 --> 00:15:49,553
The current problem is,
The Jacksons have a cartoon series.
296
00:15:49,817 --> 00:15:52,743
And their credibility
is being questioned.
297
00:15:53,133 --> 00:15:55,177
2, 4, 6, 8,
who do you appreciate.
298
00:15:55,449 --> 00:15:57,417
Please be proud of
and my joy.
299
00:15:57,543 --> 00:15:59,565
2, 4, 6, 8,
who do you appreciate.
300
00:15:59,918 --> 00:16:02,395
I want to be your girlfriend.
301
00:16:02,910 --> 00:16:04,183
I might be
little boy.
302
00:16:04,828 --> 00:16:06,680
But my heart is as big as the city of Texas.
303
00:16:07,248 --> 00:16:09,170
I have all the love
that a man can give.
304
00:16:09,681 --> 00:16:10,972
And maybe
a little more.
305
00:16:11,094 --> 00:16:14,622
I will give the Jacksons,
as much credibility as I can.
306
00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:16,473
We boarded the train to Philadelphia.
307
00:16:16,585 --> 00:16:18,640
Gamble and Huff open their drawers,
full of hits.
308
00:16:18,757 --> 00:16:21,714
When you think of disco,
and think about disco quality.
309
00:16:21,962 --> 00:16:23,314
You came to Philadelphia.
310
00:16:23,623 --> 00:16:27,895
The two people that Michael Jackson studied
were Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff.
311
00:16:28,297 --> 00:16:32,278
Who is the initiator and entrepreneur
behind Philly International.
312
00:16:32,429 --> 00:16:34,791
Owner of disco music sound.
313
00:16:34,812 --> 00:16:39,467
The Jacksons always want to write and produce their own recordings.
314
00:16:40,258 --> 00:16:42,605
and become part of the process.
315
00:16:43,032 --> 00:16:45,229
That's a bit more about
Philly International.
316
00:16:45,359 --> 00:16:49,049
It's a place where you have a lot of freedom to create.
317
00:16:49,315 --> 00:16:52,939
Gamble and Huff wrote
a large number of hits.
318
00:16:53,265 --> 00:16:55,729
We have Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes,
we have the O'Jays...
319
00:16:55,864 --> 00:16:56,548
See the list!
320
00:16:57,108 --> 00:16:58,804
We have Patti LaBelle...
321
00:16:58,915 --> 00:17:02,219
Archie Bell & The Drells./
Phyllis Hyman./Billy Paul...
322
00:17:02,239 --> 00:17:04,915
Lou Rawls, we have
Teddy Pendergrass...
323
00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:06,049
Three Degrees./
Three Degrees...
324
00:17:06,175 --> 00:17:10,046
We have to arrange songs to match
with the singers' voices.
325
00:17:10,123 --> 00:17:11,825
That's what great producers do, right? /
Sure.
326
00:17:12,025 --> 00:17:15,908
We are almost right in the middle of the
recording session of The Jacksons.
327
00:17:16,148 --> 00:17:20,025
And guess who produced their latest album
?
328
00:17:20,368 --> 00:17:22,149
Gamble and Huff? /
Exactly.
329
00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,257
Why are you all the way
coming from California...
330
00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:29,508
... to edit some parts
on the album, to Philadelphia?
331
00:17:29,641 --> 00:17:32,798
Because the Gamble and Huff organizations are here.
332
00:17:32,914 --> 00:17:36,587
And they are the best 2 producers in the world.
333
00:17:36,765 --> 00:17:39,244
Work with Gamble and Huff,
they do it quickly.
334
00:17:39,262 --> 00:17:40,597
Only 3 weeks
make a recording.
335
00:17:40,681 --> 00:17:42,954
I don't know if you can make 1 album recordings in 3 weeks.
336
00:17:43,071 --> 00:17:46,041
They are Jimmy Jam
and Terry Lewis 70's.
337
00:17:46,110 --> 00:17:49,475
Michael always said that he learned a lot
the process of writing songs...
338
00:17:49,574 --> 00:17:51,567
... from Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff.
339
00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:54,141
How to structure a song,
how to make a good arrangement.
340
00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:58,531
The Jacksons came to Philadelphia for 2 years
to record 2 recordings.
341
00:17:58,722 --> 00:18:01,319
The Jacksons and
Goin 'Places.
342
00:18:01,406 --> 00:18:05,370
We try writing songs about
people do at any time.
343
00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:07,212
What people say
at any time.
344
00:18:07,392 --> 00:18:09,456
Enjoy yourself,
enjoy yourself.
345
00:18:09,559 --> 00:18:11,109
Enjoy yourself,
for me.
346
00:18:11,275 --> 00:18:13,668
People always say that all the time,
"Enjoy yourself."
347
00:18:13,802 --> 00:18:16,406
You must
enjoy yourself.
348
00:18:17,607 --> 00:18:18,844
Say.
349
00:18:18,873 --> 00:18:21,224
Enjoy yourself. /
Enjoy yourself.
350
00:18:21,299 --> 00:18:23,535
Get down, come down. /
Come down.
351
00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:25,836
Enjoy yourself. /
Enjoy yourself.
352
00:18:26,023 --> 00:18:28,331
Get down, come down. /
Come down.
353
00:18:28,367 --> 00:18:30,730
Enjoy yourself. /
Enjoy yourself.
354
00:18:30,758 --> 00:18:33,023
Get down, come down. /
Come down.
355
00:18:33,145 --> 00:18:35,463
Enjoy yourself. /
Enjoy yourself.
356
00:18:35,529 --> 00:18:37,511
Get down, come down. /
Come down.
357
00:18:47,699 --> 00:18:49,055
Ayo./
Come on.
358
00:18:49,060 --> 00:18:50,244
Ayo./
Come on.
359
00:18:50,408 --> 00:18:51,527
Ayo./
Come on.
360
00:18:51,623 --> 00:18:54,996
Ayo./ You can do that,
you can do that.
361
00:18:56,773 --> 00:18:59,130
Michael is carried away by music.
He loves music.
362
00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,059
And... /
He must study.
363
00:19:01,088 --> 00:19:05,172
1 the most important thing for success
is listening.
364
00:19:05,623 --> 00:19:06,992
Listen and
pay attention.
365
00:19:07,895 --> 00:19:10,605
And being a good person to work together,
is easy to work with.
366
00:19:10,643 --> 00:19:14,313
Every song is negotiated,
every production is negotiation.
367
00:19:14,350 --> 00:19:16,401
If you do that
together with someone.
368
00:19:16,427 --> 00:19:19,459
Bobby Colomby wants me to recite
words in a certain way.
369
00:19:19,651 --> 00:19:23,541
There is 1 song, and there is a line in it
that he sings...
370
00:19:23,591 --> 00:19:26,673
Now I am a man
for all seasons.
371
00:19:27,722 --> 00:19:32,098
And what the city offers me
is not natural (Is not naturally).
372
00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:34,411
"Is not naturally". He sang like that.
I immediately...
373
00:19:34,572 --> 00:19:35,652
"Oh no.
That's bad English."
374
00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:38,963
So I said, "Wait a minute, Mike".
I came out and said...
375
00:19:38,991 --> 00:19:42,847
"Is not naturally. Naturally?
or Is not natural?"
376
00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:45,062
I told Bobby, "you pronounce the words
too precisely"
377
00:19:45,157 --> 00:19:50,583
"That removes the taste from the song,
and we have to go in small things because of that."
378
00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:53,333
There are many giving and receiving.
And sometimes you don't want to give.
379
00:19:53,385 --> 00:19:57,020
Or sometimes you give,
but feel, "I have to leave it as it is."
380
00:19:57,052 --> 00:20:02,371
Something says in my brain, "Shut up !,
" Stop being a grammar cop! "
381
00:20:02,646 --> 00:20:04,988
" Michael is a genius,
just get out of the way! "
382
00:20:05,118 --> 00:20:07,246
I'm right and I win!
383
00:20:08,248 --> 00:20:10,783
But that's a learning point
good.
384
00:20:11,045 --> 00:20:16,356
You want 100%
expressing your idea.
385
00:20:16,452 --> 00:20:18,709
That's only 100% of my expressions.
386
00:20:18,714 --> 00:20:19,770
We have 2 albums.
387
00:20:20,058 --> 00:20:23,406
I mean, 2 singles on the album
that will be released in December with Epic.
388
00:20:23,594 --> 00:20:26,617
The first time we wrote a few songs
in an album.
389
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:28,819
It was a different style,
but still hits hits.
390
00:20:28,836 --> 00:20:33,533
So when we united with
that we heard among you.
391
00:20:33,576 --> 00:20:35,624
It produces our own music style
.
392
00:20:35,699 --> 00:20:37,661
It's time to write,
so I tell you...
393
00:20:37,872 --> 00:20:39,986
... it's time for you
to go and do it yourself.
394
00:20:40,299 --> 00:20:43,945
So we decided to write and produce our own songs.
395
00:20:44,721 --> 00:20:46,332
And we really do it.
396
00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,569
We have passed many things.
397
00:20:51,206 --> 00:20:54,755
People don't believe what you are doing,
or say, "Are you sure?"
398
00:20:55,403 --> 00:20:57,811
We say, "Yes, we know we can,
we know what we can do"
399
00:20:58,115 --> 00:21:00,100
We enter and start
write the album Destiny.
400
00:21:00,470 --> 00:21:02,715
I feel something
comes together from us alone.
401
00:21:02,817 --> 00:21:05,064
And here's the Jacksons.
402
00:21:05,312 --> 00:21:06,400
Here we are now.
403
00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:11,007
On Destiny's album, which came out in 1978.
A year before the album Off The Wall...
404
00:21:11,634 --> 00:21:15,013
Michael starts making movements.
He writes Your Body Shake (Down to the Ground)
405
00:21:15,087 --> 00:21:16,474
Where are you the first time
inspired to make...
406
00:21:16,571 --> 00:21:18,475
... Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground).
What happened?
407
00:21:18,522 --> 00:21:23,413
When at home, Randy is playing
groove on a piano like this...
408
00:21:23,734 --> 00:21:25,893
I said, "what is that?"
he said, "nothing."
409
00:21:25,989 --> 00:21:27,787
I said, "I can say
that is something."
410
00:21:28,041 --> 00:21:31,637
I started singing to the game.
And it suddenly appeared.
411
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:36,386
I contacted several friends, who were very respectful,
who knew how to arrange.
412
00:21:36,418 --> 00:21:42,015
I thought, the key to actually making albums
a vocal group like this.
413
00:21:42,122 --> 00:21:44,903
Of course you must,
great musicians, great arrangements.
414
00:21:45,052 --> 00:21:49,825
Bobby Colomby assured me that I should be more involved in the arrangement.
415
00:21:49,889 --> 00:21:51,387
He said, "This is what will
do arrangements with you"
416
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,302
Next thing, I've been in the room with the Jacksons!
417
00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:57,047
Then we bring Greg
to help with recording.
418
00:21:57,573 --> 00:21:59,092
Destiny's album again. / Yes.
419
00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:01,153
Dear God, Greg really... /
Amazing!
420
00:22:01,466 --> 00:22:04,859
Everyone has been great since the first time. /
Be great afterwards.
421
00:22:04,947 --> 00:22:08,568
When I first heard the demo song
Shake Your Body, that...
422
00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:14,634
... of course there is a melody,
which is very strong.
423
00:22:14,965 --> 00:22:21,171
And there is a basic piano playing section,
which sounds like...
424
00:22:21,235 --> 00:22:22,268
All the rhythms are there.
425
00:22:22,856 --> 00:22:26,767
You surround this city
with your head looking up.
426
00:22:26,929 --> 00:22:30,787
But I know that
I want you.
427
00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:34,770
But rhythmically
hasn't been much developed.
428
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,488
Greg appears with
rhythms like this.
429
00:22:43,272 --> 00:22:45,214
That's the rhythm of Shake Your Body
(Down to the Ground).
430
01:26:52,505 --> 01:27:08,235
Transfer Language:
DENDY A. SUPARDI
* Talikuran & Tanjung Lapang *
431
00:22:45,255 --> 00:22:48,940
Where the average song
sounds like...
432
00:22:48,995 --> 00:22:51,536
That's right. /
Early Greg came with that knock.
433
00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:52,928
I said,
"what is this person doing?"
434
00:22:52,992 --> 00:22:55,270
I say that to myself,
I did not express it.
435
00:22:55,494 --> 00:22:58,100
But I wait until
Greg plays it.
436
00:22:58,406 --> 00:23:01,456
Gosh, when Greg played. / Yes. /
And we listened to the recording.
437
00:23:01,471 --> 00:23:03,284
I said. "Oh my God, this is the bomb!"
438
00:23:03,908 --> 00:23:07,732
Because I've never heard
beats like that before. It was incredible.
439
00:23:07,805 --> 00:23:08,744
A great knock.
440
00:23:08,834 --> 00:23:13,226
I said, "If The Jacksons need a drummer,
tell them, your friend is here".
441
00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:17,510
James McField, a keyboard player, who makes me audition.
442
00:23:17,539 --> 00:23:19,738
And Tito said that he was playing the guitar.
443
00:23:19,756 --> 00:23:21,011
He said, "let's play
Shake Your Body Down".
444
00:23:21,246 --> 00:23:23,483
With a look like this, he said,
"do you know that?"
445
00:23:23,602 --> 00:23:24,613
So I started playing the beat.
446
00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:30,994
They look at each other.
whispering to each other, and seeing like...
447
00:23:31,178 --> 00:23:34,759
I said, "Oh no, I screwed it up!"
because the beats are very complicated.
448
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:37,385
You have to know when
and how to cross your arms.
449
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,761
To make the path.
A complicated hi-hat pattern.
450
00:23:40,989 --> 00:23:43,877
And continue to make the beat run
without losing any existing elements.
451
00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:46,984
Then Randy said, "Nobody can
play that beat!"
452
00:23:46,993 --> 00:23:48,369
"That is 3 parts overdub!"
453
00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:51,668
I say, "really?" I thought the drummer
had played it before.
454
00:23:51,807 --> 00:23:53,832
They were shocked and amazed
I could play it.
455
00:23:53,940 --> 00:23:55,397
And they say,
"you are our drummer."
456
00:23:55,413 --> 00:23:58,614
We have Tom Tom 84 who works on trumpet arrangements.
457
00:23:58,803 --> 00:24:01,464
Trumpet arrangement maker
outside Chicago.
458
00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:03,323
Arrangement of all songs
bands Earth, Wind & Fire's.
459
00:24:03,404 --> 00:24:04,996
So we have a trumpet arrangement.
460
00:24:05,019 --> 00:24:09,032
Then we have Earth trumpets, Wind & Fire's
who come and play...
461
00:24:12,922 --> 00:24:14,168
Trumpet players
like blowing like that.
462
00:24:14,236 --> 00:24:15,766
The Jacksons' new rhythm,
is out of tune...
463
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,554
... provoke tension
in a poem line.
464
00:24:19,695 --> 00:24:20,377
Musicically...
465
00:24:20,753 --> 00:24:23,325
You can't...
I'm like, "what happened?"
466
00:24:23,432 --> 00:24:26,495
"Where is the bridge, when is the solo ?,
when are we...?
467
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:28,201
I would rather use
other forms.
468
00:24:28,431 --> 00:24:31,604
Epic is really not interested at all
at The Jacksons, at this point . = = It's like, "Oh my God,
we have to get rid of that rhythm."
469
00:24:31,825 --> 00:24:34,155
470
00:24:34,277 --> 00:24:39,112
I got a call from Paris Eley.
He is the Head of Promotion for the R & B department.
471
00:24:39,147 --> 00:24:43,487
He said, "hey, bro...
Shake Your Body is a hit song."
472
00:24:43,608 --> 00:24:45,495
I want to show first.
Album.
473
00:24:45,522 --> 00:24:48,841
And show you the contents of the album.
If possible, from left to right.
474
00:24:48,919 --> 00:24:53,689
They are Randy, Tito, Jackie, Marlon and Michael.
And they are...
475
00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:54,940
The Jacksons!
476
00:24:55,225 --> 00:24:59,130
I don't know what will happen
to you, honey.
477
00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:02,509
But I know that
I love you.
478
00:25:03,408 --> 00:25:07,533
You surround this city
with your head looking up.
479
00:25:07,698 --> 00:25:11,748
And I know that
I want you.
480
00:25:11,762 --> 00:25:15,793
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
481
00:25:15,961 --> 00:25:20,135
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
482
00:25:20,241 --> 00:25:24,127
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
483
00:25:24,209 --> 00:25:28,276
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
484
00:25:28,332 --> 00:25:33,528
That song enables people to see
Michael Jackson as an adult.
485
00:25:33,595 --> 00:25:38,144
Because the song is musical, travel
length from ABC and I Want You Back.
486
00:25:44,326 --> 00:25:48,385
You teased me with
tame-tame game of pigeons.
487
00:25:48,509 --> 00:25:51,975
Because you know that
I want you.
488
00:25:52,689 --> 00:25:56,637
I need to do something
in order to get close to your soul.
489
00:25:57,075 --> 00:26:00,923
Because you know that
I want you.
490
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:05,477
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
491
00:26:05,518 --> 00:26:09,421
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
492
00:26:09,489 --> 00:26:13,630
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
493
00:26:13,691 --> 00:26:18,084
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Just shake it.
494
00:26:27,695 --> 00:26:31,433
There is one moment in the Shake Your Body
(Down to the Ground) demo.
495
00:26:31,509 --> 00:26:36,150
Where I clearly see that The Jacksons are aiming for something bigger.
496
00:26:36,824 --> 00:26:40,864
1978, and the biggest album sales
of all time...
497
00:26:40,943 --> 00:26:42,396
... is Saturday Night Fever
that belongs to The Bee Gees.
498
00:26:42,542 --> 00:26:46,895
And there are moments that you can hear,
Jackie in the background says...
499
00:26:47,155 --> 00:26:51,066
"I can't wait
The Bee Gees hear this song"
500
00:26:51,118 --> 00:26:52,972
"I want The Bee Gees
hear this song!"
501
00:26:56,416 --> 00:27:00,067
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
502
00:27:00,072 --> 00:27:00,770
Everything!
503
00:27:00,817 --> 00:27:03,750
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
504
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:07,282
Let's dance, let's cheer.
Shake your body to the floor.
505
00:27:07,346 --> 00:27:08,497
Everything!
506
00:27:09,429 --> 00:27:14,519
We wrote, "Produced by The Jacksons,
all songs are written by The Jacksons."
507
00:27:15,447 --> 00:27:18,638
Mick Jackson, a white man
who lives in England...
508
00:27:18,761 --> 00:27:20,244
... write a song titled the same,
Blame It On The Boogie.
509
00:27:20,254 --> 00:27:22,639
I'm not lying,
his name is Jackson!
510
00:27:22,707 --> 00:27:26,838
Don't blame it on sunlight.
Don't blame it in the moonlight.
511
00:27:27,102 --> 00:27:30,699
Don't blame it on beautiful times.
Blame it on the boogie music rhythm.
512
00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:35,049
Don't blame it on sunlight.
Don't blame it in the moonlight.
513
00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:39,351
Don't blame it on beautiful times.
Blame it on the boogie music rhythm.
514
00:27:40,104 --> 00:27:44,514
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control my legs.
515
00:27:44,649 --> 00:27:48,620
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control my legs.
516
00:27:49,068 --> 00:27:52,887
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control my legs.
517
00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:57,131
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control my legs.
518
00:27:57,185 --> 00:28:00,284
... sunlight.
Don't blame it in the moonlight.
519
00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:04,487
Don't blame it on beautiful times.
Blame it on the boogie music rhythm.
520
00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:08,878
... sunlight.
Don't blame it in the moonlight.
521
00:28:09,305 --> 00:28:12,619
Don't blame it on beautiful times.
Blame it on the boogie music rhythm.
522
00:28:13,834 --> 00:28:17,924
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control my legs.
523
00:28:18,036 --> 00:28:21,219
I just can't, I just can't.
I just can't control...
524
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,434
So Michael starts singing. He threw away his headphones until he crashed out of the studio.
525
00:28:26,764 --> 00:28:29,854
I turned to the Engineer, "does he feel
feedback, is there something...?"
526
00:28:29,987 --> 00:28:33,172
He replied, "No, no.
I went to the hall, Michael was dancing!
527
00:28:33,453 --> 00:28:36,472
Unbelievable, he circled,
then said," I'm sorry... "
528
00:28:36,586 --> 00:28:39,665
"I can't stand just
singing in this section".
529
00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:40,846
"I have to show this style."
530
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:44,963
Michael looks at James Brown,
Nicholas Brothers and Sammy Davis.
531
00:28:45,221 --> 00:28:47,752
Once Michael sees
someone dancing...
532
00:28:48,413 --> 00:28:50,911
... examples of Fred Astaire and
some other stars.
533
00:28:51,703 --> 00:28:53,660
He will do right
as they...
534
00:28:53,725 --> 00:28:54,619
Easy for Michael
capture the movement.
535
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:59,974
Jackie Wilson, who I always pay attention to from Wings, every day on the stage.
536
00:29:00,096 --> 00:29:02,187
We The Jacksons will perform at the Regal Theater,
6 shows in 1 day.
537
00:29:02,299 --> 00:29:05,873
We will come at an amateur hour. /
Oh my God. / I'm focusing on Jackie Wilson.
538
00:29:06,144 --> 00:29:08,428
And Sammy Davis Jr.
is one of my favorites.
539
00:29:08,465 --> 00:29:10,604
You won't be mistaken for
Sammy Davis Jr. / Oh yeah.
540
00:29:10,763 --> 00:29:17,185
To pay attention and see Michael...
and suddenly see small flashes.
541
00:29:17,331 --> 00:29:19,500
In praise,
I say this about me.
542
00:29:19,572 --> 00:29:22,282
Small flashes like mine,
and I immediately, "Wow."
543
00:29:22,423 --> 00:29:28,435
But the expansion, change, color,
until it becomes its own style.
544
00:29:28,678 --> 00:29:30,975
Michael introduced me to Fred Astaire
and to all of his films.
545
00:29:31,022 --> 00:29:33,471
I didn't know
Fred Astaire at all.
546
00:29:34,872 --> 00:29:39,579
Michael opened my eyes
to a new world full of inspiration.
547
00:29:39,586 --> 00:29:42,552
I just want to tell you,
I have all of your movie recordings.
548
00:29:42,607 --> 00:29:46,583
And I watch it all the time.
And I want to ask you 1 thing.
549
00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:50,078
How do you do that,
when you walk in the attic?
550
00:29:50,477 --> 00:29:51,237
Dancing.
551
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:53,923
Really, I want to know,
how to do it?
552
00:29:53,948 --> 00:29:57,115
The whole room and the camera are reversed. /
So both of them are reversed, right?
553
00:29:57,489 --> 00:29:57,811
Yes
554
00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:35,195
Michael dances based on energy.
He moves like an electric eel.
555
00:30:35,271 --> 00:30:37,948
I think the adjective "electricity"
means good, for him.
556
00:30:38,218 --> 00:30:42,614
He is pumped with energy.
But he has good kebatinan.
557
00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:45,077
Or whatever it comes from,
his brain or whatever.
558
00:30:45,085 --> 00:30:48,338
To use that energy
and rise again quickly.
559
00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:50,705
Where are naturally owned
great dancers.
560
00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:55,321
I appeared after the war.
After completing his assignment in the Navy.
561
00:30:56,085 --> 00:30:58,214
And I want to dance
to ordinary people.
562
00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:02,876
I don't want to dance with a white tie
or tuxedo or dress officially.
563
00:31:02,966 --> 00:31:06,628
I prefer to roll my sleeve,
wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
564
00:31:06,978 --> 00:31:09,720
The closest thing I can get to dance shoes
is casual shoes.
565
00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:13,524
White socks and rolled jeans.
566
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,105
And Michael dances from the street style.
Like me, I believe that.
567
00:31:18,301 --> 00:31:22,902
I'm a teenager who starts to grow up.
I started to really understand...
568
00:31:23,829 --> 00:31:26,072
... the power of dancing.
569
00:31:26,235 --> 00:31:28,995
From the way Michael spins,
stops during the round.
570
00:31:29,094 --> 00:31:33,070
And pointing with intensity.
that is the power of dancing I mean.
571
00:31:33,106 --> 00:31:35,728
And I'm fully convinced of a number of movements.
572
00:31:36,129 --> 00:31:40,433
There is beauty in simplicity,
and really disarms everything.
573
00:31:40,737 --> 00:31:41,941
And I learned that from Michael.
574
00:31:42,090 --> 00:31:44,027
He impacts everything
me. Clear.
575
00:31:44,188 --> 00:31:45,168
Impact on my game
in the field.
576
00:31:45,266 --> 00:31:47,911
Impact on me to this day
on how I study.
577
00:31:47,977 --> 00:31:50,413
Witness Michael, like something I have never seen before.
578
00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:56,940
Something magical, creative,
like something I can't imitate.
579
00:31:56,972 --> 00:32:01,246
That's how I find love in dance,
before I find classical ballet dance.
580
00:32:01,270 --> 00:32:03,283
I used to ask Michael,
"How often do you practice?"
581
00:32:03,312 --> 00:32:07,437
He replied, "I will dance
until I can't dance anymore."
582
00:32:07,574 --> 00:32:08,581
I say, "what do you mean?"
583
00:32:08,674 --> 00:32:12,694
He replied, "I will dance until my feet
physically can no longer be moved."
584
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:17,656
There are many people who don't have the same type of movement.
585
00:32:17,965 --> 00:32:21,765
You look at artists like Beyonce,
that kind of movement.
586
00:32:21,894 --> 00:32:23,688
Many times when it comes to dealing with
black artists.
587
00:32:23,812 --> 00:32:27,364
It happened to Basquiat, to Miles Davis,
to Michael Jackson.
588
00:32:27,918 --> 00:32:30,275
People talk about their "natural gifts".
589
00:32:30,365 --> 00:32:33,259
It seems there is no strategy,
skills and expertise.
590
00:32:33,432 --> 00:32:35,218
Like if Miles Davis
doesn't go to Juilliard.
591
00:32:35,335 --> 00:32:38,912
Or if only Basquiat
does not know Monet and Renoir.
592
00:32:39,021 --> 00:32:41,384
Or if only Michael Jackson did not do this all his life.
593
00:32:41,546 --> 00:32:45,399
Some of my favorite writers are
Johnny Mercer, Irving Berlin...
594
00:32:45,792 --> 00:32:49,321
... George Gershwin, Duke Ellington,
Count Basie.
595
00:32:49,376 --> 00:32:51,848
No, you have to enter the job, man.
You have to enter the working time.
596
00:32:52,048 --> 00:32:54,404
And really, man.
that is the love that you entered.
597
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:57,629
Because people who work like that,
We love what we do.
598
00:32:57,685 --> 00:32:59,968
This is dated
6 November 1979.
599
00:33:00,117 --> 00:33:01,559
Michael is on a trip
with his brothers.
600
00:33:01,915 --> 00:33:03,120
in the framework of the Destiny album tour.
601
00:33:03,188 --> 00:33:05,970
"MJ will be my new name,
there's no more Michael Jackson."
602
00:33:06,175 --> 00:33:08,912
"I want a new character,
a new appearance."
603
00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:10,884
"I will be completely
different person."
604
00:33:10,958 --> 00:33:12,740
"People don't have to think about me anymore..."
605
00:33:12,767 --> 00:33:15,212
... "as a child who sings
ABC / I songs Want You Back."
606
00:33:15,566 --> 00:33:16,319
"I have to be..."
607
00:33:16,363 --> 00:33:20,888
... "Outstanding and new Actors-Dancers, who will surprise the world."
608
00:33:20,902 --> 00:33:23,293
"I won't do an interview,
I will be magical."
609
00:33:23,351 --> 00:33:26,711
"I will be a perfectionist, a researcher,
a coach, a master."
610
00:33:27,114 --> 00:33:30,186
"I will be better than
all great actors are gathered together."
611
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:33,410
"I have to have the most incredible training
system."
612
00:33:33,729 --> 00:33:36,980
"To dig and dig,
until I find."
613
00:33:37,063 --> 00:33:41,462
"I will study and look back
the entire entertainment world, and perfect it."
614
00:33:41,474 --> 00:33:44,565
"Exploring further what was ever left behind by great people."
615
00:33:44,782 --> 00:33:49,291
You really are the highest place now,
as far as record production and so on.
616
00:33:49,631 --> 00:33:53,160
Do you think this is the peak of your career or are you a little lowered?
617
00:33:53,163 --> 00:33:54,931
Or do you expect bigger
or better things?
618
00:33:54,964 --> 00:33:56,665
What are your hopes
in the future, Michael?
619
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:58,354
Make a recording of other artists.
620
00:33:58,778 --> 00:34:01,295
And try the acting world.
We have a lot of scripts but...
621
00:34:02,072 --> 00:34:05,241
... we have not found the manuscript
that is right for us to use.
622
00:34:05,602 --> 00:34:07,728
So we still pick and choose.
623
00:34:08,148 --> 00:34:10,299
Thinking you might become a big movie star
someday, huh?
624
00:34:10,324 --> 00:34:12,222
Yes, I want
to try it.
625
00:34:12,566 --> 00:34:14,987
It's a good business to enter.
You have a look for that, you know?
626
00:34:15,227 --> 00:34:19,652
Luckily I'm not...
What?
627
00:34:21,655 --> 00:34:25,497
Along with the arrival of Motion Pictures,
_ there is an abundance of Oz films.
628
00:34:25,912 --> 00:34:29,550
The 1925 version, starring Oliver Hardy
as the Canned Man.
629
00:34:30,157 --> 00:34:35,573
And who can forget the musical version
MGM in 1939, starring Judy Garland.
630
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:41,480
In 1974, The Wiz was shown on Broadway.
Win 7 Tony Awards.
631
00:34:41,923 --> 00:34:49,233
I was in high school at that time. There is a girl
named Barbara Hampton, whom I like.
632
00:34:50,214 --> 00:34:56,004
I want to make the girl impressed.
I work at Baskin Robbins. I save...
633
00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:58,430
... and finally have the courage
to ask him.
634
00:34:58,678 --> 00:35:00,525
"Will you go watch
The Wiz with me?"
635
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,555
"I have 2 seat tickets
in the middle of the hall"
636
00:35:03,562 --> 00:35:05,815
The girl answered,
"No, I don't think so."
637
00:35:09,489 --> 00:35:11,982
Skin the ticket seller.
But double the price.
638
00:35:12,183 --> 00:35:15,346
I invited Michael first to watch The Wiz,
Michael returned there 30 times.
639
00:35:15,426 --> 00:35:18,656
The Wiz, when it appeared first
1978, was...
640
00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:24,642
... the adaptation of Lumet's film, which is very long on Broadway...
641
00:35:24,802 --> 00:35:25,573
... starring
Stephanie Mills.
642
00:35:25,641 --> 00:35:30,848
So it's real, real,
real to me.
643
00:35:30,914 --> 00:35:35,147
There is a big debate, at least in my neighborhood,
that Diana Ross is a drug user.
644
00:35:35,196 --> 00:35:37,240
The only reason to include him,
because he is Diana Ross.
645
00:35:37,438 --> 00:35:39,676
Stephanie Mills
will be more suitable for the film.
646
00:35:39,838 --> 00:35:42,551
But whatever the reason,
Stephanie didn't get that role.
647
00:35:42,658 --> 00:35:45,499
We will not do that with young artists
unknown.
648
00:35:45,551 --> 00:35:49,042
We have to have the strength of a star
so they can make it "cross over."
649
00:35:49,367 --> 00:35:54,996
The Wiz is also the most expensive film
ever made.
650
00:35:55,183 --> 00:35:57,526
With all the characters
is Africa-America.
651
00:35:57,550 --> 00:36:02,651
So because of the Car Wash and Sparkle films.
This happened in Hollywood.
652
00:36:02,759 --> 00:36:05,947
Whether it is marked as a person
for black matter.
653
00:36:05,953 --> 00:36:07,955
I am the black writer. /
Black writer?
654
00:36:08,216 --> 00:36:13,369
Sidney is probably the number 1 director of American films at that time, because she has made a film...
655
00:36:13,456 --> 00:36:17,089
Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon,
Network, Murder On The Orient Express.
656
00:36:17,351 --> 00:36:18,485
I think all in one line.
657
00:36:18,548 --> 00:36:21,279
He is king,
and certainly the king of New York.
658
00:36:21,307 --> 00:36:24,381
Michael really wants
to play Scarecrow.
659
00:36:24,663 --> 00:36:27,649
Michael always wants to have a film career,
there is an issue where he...
660
00:36:27,728 --> 00:36:30,333
... should be playing in Frankie Lymon's story,
but never accomplished.
661
00:36:30,443 --> 00:36:32,223
The Wiz is predicted to be a big film.
662
00:36:32,488 --> 00:36:35,210
Diana Ross, her old friend,
became the actor in the film.
663
00:36:35,243 --> 00:36:38,875
Michael is no longer in Motown,
and he contacts Berry Gordy.
664
00:36:38,951 --> 00:36:43,203
We are working on the film The Wiz,
Rob Cohen who handled the film.
665
00:36:43,416 --> 00:36:45,944
Rob worked for me at that time
at Motown Productions.
666
00:36:46,167 --> 00:36:50,038
It will be very easy for Berry to say,
"yes Michael, you've come out..."
667
00:36:50,121 --> 00:36:51,871
It won't! /... and I can
find new people. "
668
00:36:52,017 --> 00:36:56,462
Sidney insisted not to want Michael.
He thinks Michael is over.
669
00:36:56,657 --> 00:37:00,735
Ever been a cute little kid,
a music star...
670
00:37:00,742 --> 00:37:02,873
... but it hasn't developed enough.
I told Sidney...
671
00:37:02,933 --> 00:37:06,489
... "You made a mistake.
And I want you to meet Michael."
672
00:37:06,644 --> 00:37:09,077
Of course, Lumet
falls in love with Michael.
673
00:37:09,129 --> 00:37:11,366
Michael is probably the purest talent I have ever seen.
674
00:37:11,946 --> 00:37:14,915
He is not proficient in a false situation.
675
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:19,064
He is so right that everything around him
must be correct.
676
00:37:19,368 --> 00:37:21,052
If you work not really
when it's nearby.
677
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,748
It will be seen, if you
are faking it.
678
00:37:22,748 --> 00:37:26,699
Yes, Michael is all that, plus,
this child can dance and sing...
679
00:37:27,042 --> 00:37:28,432
... unlike others.
680
00:37:28,761 --> 00:37:33,110
That is very clear, this boy's genius,
is so without difficulty.
681
00:37:33,317 --> 00:37:35,800
When I was very young,
while watching the real Wizard of Oz.
682
00:37:35,898 --> 00:37:38,896
Judy Garland version,
I always fall in love with Scarecrow.
683
00:37:39,112 --> 00:37:42,170
I think almost all children too,
because you pity him and others.
684
00:37:42,793 --> 00:37:46,075
The character, I always observe.
685
00:37:46,103 --> 00:37:49,342
In fact, I have an artificial footprint
the Wizard of Oz movie, it can be when I'm 6 years old.
686
00:37:49,399 --> 00:37:51,689
I always play that footing around the house.
"Follow the yellow brick."
687
00:37:53,601 --> 00:37:55,935
Come on, Dorothy!
Come on.
688
00:38:01,047 --> 00:38:04,588
Come on and reduce the load,
reduce the load running.
689
00:38:05,483 --> 00:38:08,840
Let's reduce the load,
reduce the load running.
690
00:38:09,268 --> 00:38:13,302
Don't bring
which might be a burden.
691
00:38:13,451 --> 00:38:16,846
Come on and reduce the load,
reduce the load running.
692
00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:20,912
The place where Ease On Down The Road
is actually going up.
693
00:38:21,470 --> 00:38:23,485
Diana and I,
we are very out of breath.
694
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:25,565
We have to do it
repeatedly. Really.
695
00:38:25,769 --> 00:38:27,092
The path is really
straight up.
696
00:38:27,108 --> 00:38:31,845
Stay on the path you choose.
Don't give up walking.
697
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,027
Because you already
give up your shoes.
698
00:38:35,183 --> 00:38:38,494
Michael will come in the morning
to be dressed for 5 hours.
699
00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:43,119
With makeup, stand observing shooting.
He memorizes everyone's dialogue.
700
00:38:43,174 --> 00:38:45,810
He memorizes everyone's songs,
he knows everyone's position.
701
00:38:46,059 --> 00:38:47,739
He will stay there
attentively.
702
00:38:48,024 --> 00:38:51,333
I see this extraordinary discipline
in a young child.
703
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:53,134
Quincy, of course,
is the music director.
704
00:38:53,236 --> 00:38:54,672
He is making music
for The Wiz.
705
00:38:54,841 --> 00:38:57,093
You've seen Quincy for a moment, right?
706
00:38:57,249 --> 00:39:01,064
Being self-aware of the band in the film.
I am a Quincy fan.
707
00:39:01,077 --> 00:39:05,944
His work is like, Smackwater Jack,
Walking In Space, Body Heat, all that.
708
00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:09,831
The Wiz is like a great combination
of all the things he has ever done.
709
00:39:09,857 --> 00:39:13,271
Lumet is happy to get Quincy.
All of us, too.
710
00:39:13,456 --> 00:39:19,747
Like a guarantee that the portion of the music
will produce strong popular chords.
711
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,630
Actually Michael doesn't have a music number display
in this film when signing him.
712
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,729
The film crew doesn't know about dance,
and many things, but...
713
00:39:26,902 --> 00:39:30,442
... finally all the crew can understand
the purpose of making songs in the film.
714
00:39:31,089 --> 00:39:33,706
You can't win.
715
00:39:34,068 --> 00:39:38,867
You can't draw and
can't get out of the game.
716
00:39:39,262 --> 00:39:46,678
People keep saying everything will change.
But their appearance remains the same.
717
00:39:46,878 --> 00:39:48,920
I don't think the film crew is enough
featuring Michael's dance.
718
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,941
Real night
Off The Wall was born...
719
00:39:53,196 --> 00:39:55,979
We are pre-recording
for the film The Wiz.
720
00:39:56,092 --> 00:40:00,938
Quinsy has a kind of tunnel vision
on Diana Ross.
721
00:40:00,982 --> 00:40:03,873
Finally around
2 o'clock in the morning.
722
00:40:03,898 --> 00:40:06,542
Quincy gets the vision
he wants from Diana.
723
00:40:06,666 --> 00:40:09,615
He then, "OK, Michael.
You entered with bar 6."
724
00:40:09,654 --> 00:40:15,350
And Michael starts, like at 1,000 watts.
He did everything...
725
00:40:15,402 --> 00:40:18,511
... which finally becomes
markers especially Michael Jackson.
726
00:40:20,247 --> 00:40:22,118
Come on, Dorothy!
Come on.
727
00:40:22,494 --> 00:40:26,604
Like a lioness who suddenly
sees a baby goat.
728
00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:29,375
It's like...
looking closer.
729
00:40:29,433 --> 00:40:34,511
The more I know Michael, the more I'm interested in the idea...
730
00:40:34,612 --> 00:40:35,834
... to maybe
work with him.
731
00:40:36,178 --> 00:40:37,932
A lot of fun working
with great people.
732
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,109
Sidney Lumet, Quincy Jones,
all.
733
00:40:41,329 --> 00:40:46,219
I may, one of the few people who love the Wiz.
734
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:50,045
There are many representatives in the film
that we have never seen before.
735
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,096
When The Wiz came out,
I was 7 years old.
736
00:40:52,344 --> 00:40:56,484
The film is an event,
for black Americans.
737
00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:59,226
I can't speak for the whole city of New York,
or for the whole country.
738
00:40:59,636 --> 00:41:02,825
But everyone in my neighborhood in Harlem,
wants to watch The Wiz...
739
00:41:02,898 --> 00:41:03,835
... because there is Mike Jackson.
740
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:05,873
So this is a big moment
for Michael Jackson.
741
00:41:06,468 --> 00:41:11,635
He has fulfilled his desire to act
and finally entered the big Hollywood film.
742
00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:14,247
So he and his sister, La Toya
moved to New York.
743
00:41:14,275 --> 00:41:17,901
I found an apartment for Michael,
on the main road 400 east No. 56.
744
00:41:18,112 --> 00:41:21,946
In the summer of 1977, the season was legendary, the season was full of disturbances.
745
00:41:22,264 --> 00:41:24,888
There is a serial killer, named
David Berkowitz, son of Sam.
746
00:41:25,035 --> 00:41:27,020
Who does all the
random killings.
747
00:41:27,045 --> 00:41:27,975
People start to get scared.
748
00:41:27,999 --> 00:41:33,357
The first disco summer,
where new forms of music, begin to appear.
749
00:41:33,512 --> 00:41:36,656
Punk, hip-hop, medium disco
big.
750
00:41:36,907 --> 00:41:40,047
And all these different elements occur in New York
at the same time...
751
00:41:40,596 --> 00:41:43,279
... which appears in a mutual way
relates or contradicts each other.
752
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,696
My hunch is probably the first time
Michael knows hip-hop music.
753
00:41:46,705 --> 00:41:50,162
The basic beatboxing that Michael played
in the Working Day and Night song.
754
00:41:50,183 --> 00:41:53,245
Although only 19 years old,
he will go to studio 54 regularly.
755
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:55,605
Maybe you've heard,
Studio 54.
756
00:41:56,070 --> 00:41:59,718
The studio attracts rich people,
famous people, glamor and rulers.
757
00:41:59,985 --> 00:42:02,279
They come to this luxury disco building in the city of New York.
758
00:42:02,805 --> 00:42:04,679
Any night
in 1 week.
759
00:42:04,767 --> 00:42:07,593
He establishes eccentric
and unusual friendships in the studio 54.
760
00:42:07,687 --> 00:42:10,138
Where can we now see the photos
and look so strange.
761
00:42:10,221 --> 00:42:11,383
He gets along with
Liza Minnelli.
762
00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:12,362
Hi, baby!
763
00:42:13,206 --> 00:42:17,100
Do you just hang out in New York? /
Yes, Studio 54. / Often come here?
764
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,635
Oh God, yeah. / Why ?/
Because I like the atmosphere of Studio 54.
765
00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:23,203
I've been to many discos
but I don't like it.
766
00:42:23,513 --> 00:42:24,296
What is the difference?
767
00:42:24,785 --> 00:42:25,801
I don't know,
might taste.
768
00:42:25,886 --> 00:42:31,466
Delight when the props start to fall,
the balcony is fun. Honest!.
769
00:42:31,491 --> 00:42:37,815
I'm sure his experience went to Studio 54
during the filming of The Wiz.
770
00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:43,539
Playing a big role in
where he wants the album to be played.
771
00:42:43,788 --> 00:42:46,102
Not that he wants
to make disco recordings.
772
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:48,346
She's a dancer,
amazing dancer.
773
00:42:48,617 --> 00:42:50,971
An influential,
innovative dancer.
774
00:42:51,187 --> 00:42:52,359
Why do you dance
for pleasure?
775
00:42:53,169 --> 00:42:55,662
Because you are free.
776
00:42:56,784 --> 00:42:59,333
Most dancing is arranged choreographically
when we are on stage.
777
00:42:59,490 --> 00:43:01,003
Things you have to do
every night.
778
00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:04,652
When you dance, you are free.
You dance with anyone you want.
779
00:43:05,094 --> 00:43:06,815
You are crazy.
780
00:43:06,914 --> 00:43:09,814
What about madness?
That is getting crazy and wild and...
781
00:43:10,037 --> 00:43:13,827
No, not so.
It's not only fun to dance.
782
00:43:13,931 --> 00:43:15,013
But it's also fun to see.
783
00:43:15,195 --> 00:43:18,080
Other people sometimes just walk
and see things like...
784
00:43:18,329 --> 00:43:20,499
... Darth Vader, who is here
the other night.
785
00:43:20,803 --> 00:43:21,781
That's amazing.
786
00:43:21,921 --> 00:43:27,191
I'm sure Michael is doing
observations on what will be around him later.
787
00:43:27,296 --> 00:43:30,533
He is a kind of self-awareness,
and kind of shy.
788
00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:33,805
So he is not trying to be
around all madness, weirdness.
789
00:43:33,813 --> 00:43:34,489
Understand what I mean?
790
00:43:34,502 --> 00:43:37,098
He came to the DJ booth,
but only watched people.
791
00:43:37,249 --> 00:43:40,801
And make notes for mentality.
I'm sure music notes too.
792
00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:42,643
I think these experiences are seen on the album Off The Wall.
793
00:43:42,802 --> 00:43:45,405
Because the album was clearly one of the most sensual albums he had ever released.
794
00:43:45,621 --> 00:43:48,363
The album contains a kind of
excitement and sexuality.
795
00:43:48,417 --> 00:43:50,658
Studio is the place you will go to
when you want to escape.
796
00:43:50,894 --> 00:43:52,409
That's a place of escape from reality.
797
00:43:52,635 --> 00:43:57,448
When we leave Motown,
there is a certain time for the Jacksons.
798
00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:59,663
And a certain time for me
as a solo artist.
799
00:43:59,757 --> 00:44:04,125
Michael appears as an autonomous figure.
Separate from his father, his brothers.
800
00:44:04,318 --> 00:44:06,367
And build himself
as a solo performer.
801
00:44:06,453 --> 00:44:08,392
I contacted Quincy
one day and said...
802
00:44:08,966 --> 00:44:11,599
"Do you know someone who can produce an album?"
803
00:44:11,797 --> 00:44:13,858
Because I have several songs,
and want to make an album.
804
00:44:14,369 --> 00:44:20,297
I didn't ask for Quincy, but he said, "of course,
why didn't I do it?
805
00:44:20,405 --> 00:44:21,550
I said,
"it's a great idea."
806
00:44:21,683 --> 00:44:25,413
There is speculation. The question will be
Quincy the right person?
807
00:44:25,451 --> 00:44:27,328
He is a jazz person,
will he be...
808
00:44:27,518 --> 00:44:28,643
They think Quincy
won't be able to make...
809
00:44:28,743 --> 00:44:32,567
... a record of contemporary hits
that everyone in the world will like.
810
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:37,952
I think it's impossible to sit trying
intellectualize or theorize about...
811
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:42,183
... how to make a recording
that can make many people interested.
812
00:44:42,261 --> 00:44:46,859
All in this room, it's hard to try
and make recordings that they will like.
813
00:44:46,962 --> 00:44:49,876
The Epic has a different idea about
who is right to work with Michael.
814
00:44:49,895 --> 00:44:52,519
Epic wants Maurice White,
as one of them.
815
00:44:52,634 --> 00:44:54,960
Epic also wants
Gamble and Huff.
816
00:00:04,609 --> 00:00:16,374
Transfer Language:
DENDY A. SUPARDI
-Talikuran & Tanjung Lapang-
817
00:44:55,048 --> 00:44:57,467
Michael returns one day,
with tears in his eyes saying...
818
00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:02,536
"Epic doesn't want to use you.
They say you're too rhythmic in jazz."
819
00:45:02,741 --> 00:45:03,864
"You don't understand
kind of music like that."
820
00:45:03,969 --> 00:45:06,382
But they don't understand anything.
821
00:45:06,773 --> 00:45:09,835
Those A & R people,
they don't understand!
822
00:45:09,972 --> 00:45:15,363
Thankfully Michael came again, with
Freddy DeMann and Ron Weiser.
823
00:45:15,501 --> 00:45:17,161
The three of them insisted and said,
"Quincy will do it."
824
00:45:17,318 --> 00:45:19,382
One day Quincy contacted me
and said...
825
00:45:19,569 --> 00:45:25,336
"We will work on Michael Jackson's album.
His first solo album."
826
00:45:25,596 --> 00:45:28,856
And my mind said,
"Oh dear, I should be really serious."
827
00:45:29,331 --> 00:45:33,386
Because I can rarely call such
.
828
00:45:33,523 --> 00:45:37,947
When you first heard the album Off The Wall,
forget for a moment all the music.
829
00:45:38,045 --> 00:45:40,540
Let's just talk about the sonic,
the sound of the music.
830
00:45:41,316 --> 00:45:46,378
Sonic from the album stands against
all albums currently available. Point!
831
00:45:46,579 --> 00:45:49,436
Because the sound of the music is raw,
the sound is there before the drum machine is there.
832
00:45:49,678 --> 00:45:51,966
Before programming
on a computer.
833
00:45:52,032 --> 00:45:56,142
Creating an album at this time,
is different from how it should be.
834
00:45:56,179 --> 00:45:58,226
Because when we made the album,
returned to that era.
835
00:45:58,330 --> 00:46:00,210
We have musicians live,
drummer live.
836
00:46:00,306 --> 00:46:03,187
That's where you find miracles, right?
You get a little miracle.
837
00:46:03,297 --> 00:46:05,884
Someone who plays
little down or something like that.
838
00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:08,844
That part makes recording live. /
That is the pulse.
839
00:46:09,041 --> 00:46:10,566
Yes, that's the pulse.
840
00:46:11,411 --> 00:46:12,863
Today everything is available.
841
00:46:12,972 --> 00:46:15,489
Today everything is ready to be played.
842
00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:21,439
The sound of the music is like, living, breathing, recording, all for music on the floor.
843
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,303
Machines are great, but
extraordinary musicians can beat them.
844
00:46:26,409 --> 00:46:29,582
I always tell the Engineers,
"you should learn and listen."
845
00:46:29,815 --> 00:46:34,610
"If the musicians are able to achieve that perfection, the type of sound."
846
00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:35,903
"When they can."
847
00:46:35,936 --> 00:46:39,050
"You should be able to make something
greater now, or you get fired!"
848
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,263
The Quincy belongs to an extraordinary history.
849
00:46:42,293 --> 00:46:45,379
He is the leader of the Count Basie band. /
Working with Frank Sinatra.
850
00:46:45,611 --> 00:46:49,132
Sammy Davis Junior./Pawnbroker./
Heat of the Night./Sanford & Son.
851
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:51,887
Quincy studied in France
under a great orchestra.
852
00:46:51,931 --> 00:46:55,587
Working with Nadia Boulanger,
who taught Ravel.
853
00:46:55,817 --> 00:47:00,170
Quincy is unlimited music.
Whatever you want, he can do it.
854
00:47:00,248 --> 00:47:05,551
Jazz, folk, pop, classical,
soul, gospel, whatever.
855
00:47:05,778 --> 00:47:09,118
Michael wrote 3 songs
on the album Off The Wall.
856
00:47:09,145 --> 00:47:13,684
Do not Stop 'Til You Get Enough, Working Day And Night
and Get On The Floor.
857
00:47:13,819 --> 00:47:15,982
He wants freedom to develop
to become an artist.
858
00:47:15,995 --> 00:47:18,954
And writing these 3 songs
is very important for him.
859
00:47:19,041 --> 00:47:20,463
Don't stop until
you get enough...
860
00:47:20,625 --> 00:47:24,418
Keep going with your heart,
don't stop until you get enough.
861
00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:28,010
Continue with your heart,
don't stop until you...
862
00:47:28,190 --> 00:47:31,581
The third song demo seemed like revelation,
the songs were really...
863
00:47:31,874 --> 00:47:36,259
... explain the ability of Michael
as a songwriter and show...
864
00:47:36,363 --> 00:47:40,280
... how to develop the songs,
when submitted to Quincy Jones.
865
00:47:40,343 --> 00:47:43,748
You really saw
Michael's rhythmic sophistication.
866
00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:48,294
The rhythm that makes
the song great.
867
00:47:50,805 --> 00:47:53,282
That's a great phrase.
There is the hook.
868
00:47:53,321 --> 00:47:57,402
Michael hasn't even sung the lyrics.
The music can play the bassline.
869
00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:01,826
And keep playing it,
without stopping. And good.
870
00:48:01,872 --> 00:48:04,272
opening bar of the
tape, like...
871
00:48:04,447 --> 00:48:07,585
You can play the worst set of your life.
Or when you were at a wedding...
872
00:48:07,627 --> 00:48:09,509
... or at a club,
doesn't matter, you're first just...
873
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,410
... it's like...
874
00:48:12,067 --> 00:48:16,184
You like getting a little tickle
that continues, many people around...
875
00:48:16,558 --> 00:48:19,123
... carried on the rhythm. Even a man trying to sell expensive sways like this...
876
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:22,805
You know,
you are dissolved in the beat.
877
00:48:23,642 --> 00:48:26,583
You know, I'm curious,
you know.
878
00:48:27,706 --> 00:48:28,870
If you can continue.
879
00:48:29,318 --> 00:48:32,134
Because of its strength,
has a lot of energy.
880
00:48:33,098 --> 00:48:34,573
And makes me feel like...
881
00:48:35,338 --> 00:48:37,150
Makes me feel like...
882
00:48:46,864 --> 00:48:52,685
It's fun,
it feels right now.
883
00:48:54,495 --> 00:49:00,704
Fever,
The temperature is rising, now.
884
00:49:02,581 --> 00:49:05,819
Strength.
Oh, strength.
885
00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:08,916
Is power and oath.
886
00:49:09,809 --> 00:49:16,798
What makes that happen.
I don't ask why.
887
00:49:17,101 --> 00:49:19,554
That song for me
reset my days.
888
00:49:19,784 --> 00:49:24,906
That's the song I use
if you need motivation.
889
00:49:25,036 --> 00:49:27,207
That is definitely my favorite Michael Jackson
song.
890
00:49:27,364 --> 00:49:30,029
"These are my own songs,
I want to communicate with my own mind."
891
00:49:30,196 --> 00:49:35,843
"My own emotions, my own ideas,
my own sensibility."
892
00:49:35,944 --> 00:49:39,173
Special vocal signs.
You heard so much about this song.
893
00:49:39,220 --> 00:49:40,615
Really clear.
894
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:45,240
You feel Michael's energy coming to you
because you can feel freedom.
895
00:49:46,277 --> 00:49:48,865
That was the first time we heard,
the iconic shout.
896
00:49:49,132 --> 00:49:50,936
It is "finally free",
Michael.
897
00:49:51,196 --> 00:49:53,596
I'm in Buffalo with you.
Fantastic performances.
898
00:49:53,813 --> 00:49:56,652
You make me watch.
On that stage, man, that's a great action !.
899
00:49:56,765 --> 00:49:59,064
When out, the audience must see the action,
when you jump out of the box.
900
00:49:59,167 --> 00:50:00,066
Oh, don't start.
901
00:50:10,136 --> 00:50:14,392
Do not Stop 'Til You Get Enough
has a sort of rhythmic opening of the groove.
902
00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:18,673
A kind of rhythm that turns you off,
you let the rhythm sink.
903
00:50:18,768 --> 00:50:22,658
I always use Michael first and foremost
as vocal inspiration.
904
00:50:22,890 --> 00:50:27,267
And Off The Wall is definitely what makes me
feel that I can sing.
905
00:50:27,323 --> 00:50:30,524
I found my falseto because of Off The Wall.
Do not Stop 'Til You Get Enough.
906
00:50:30,651 --> 00:50:35,957
Fun,
it feels, now.
907
00:50:37,739 --> 00:50:43,188
Fever,
The temperature is rising, now.
908
00:50:44,652 --> 00:50:50,537
Strength.
Is energy and oath.
909
00:50:51,379 --> 00:50:57,354
What makes that happen.
I don't ask why.
910
00:50:57,731 --> 00:51:00,896
The song has strange lyrics, for me.
strange lyrics.
911
00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:02,293
Citing Star Wars movies.
912
00:51:02,404 --> 00:51:06,448
I don't even know he said,
"Continue with that force, don't..."
913
00:51:06,627 --> 00:51:07,878
I think it's about forks (forks).
914
00:51:07,937 --> 00:51:10,100
When I heard little,
"Continue with the fork (fork)."
915
00:51:10,848 --> 00:51:12,325
I don't know what it's a fork.
916
00:52:21,515 --> 00:52:25,114
I remember Rock with You,
Michael looks like a million dollars.
917
00:52:25,415 --> 00:52:27,996
I guess that was before the Jacksons had $ 1 million to spend.
918
00:52:28,761 --> 00:52:31,933
So the clip is made, in relativeity,
with a small amount of money.
919
00:52:32,224 --> 00:52:35,050
But he must be alone
market the clip.
920
00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:39,684
There's nothing you can do.
921
00:52:40,764 --> 00:52:47,885
Take care of your mind.
Baring and groove with me.
922
00:52:48,082 --> 00:52:52,758
You have to feel the heat.
And we can feel the boogie rhythm.
923
00:52:53,005 --> 00:52:56,121
Share the beat of love.
924
00:52:56,477 --> 00:53:01,102
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
925
00:53:01,365 --> 00:53:04,899
Dance with you until... /
the sun shines.
926
00:53:04,903 --> 00:53:09,125
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
927
00:53:09,324 --> 00:53:12,957
We will shake the night.
928
00:53:13,654 --> 00:53:15,197
That is the theme song
the wheeler.
929
00:53:15,279 --> 00:53:19,919
There is an obsession with wheelchair
in the US in 1979, 1980.
930
00:53:20,193 --> 00:53:22,226
Like, "I'll be in a wheelchair."
931
00:53:22,786 --> 00:53:24,485
The right song for
in skate...
932
00:53:24,643 --> 00:53:27,015
... must feel like the floor,
on your roller skates.
933
00:53:27,161 --> 00:53:30,506
Must be like the
foundation for all the slides.
934
00:53:31,474 --> 00:53:33,727
Just slow down.
935
00:53:35,291 --> 00:53:38,233
Because we are still far away.
936
00:53:38,437 --> 00:53:43,400
When you feel the heat.
And we will feel the boogie rhythm.
937
00:53:43,579 --> 00:53:46,531
Share the beat of love.
938
00:53:46,610 --> 00:53:51,025
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
939
00:53:51,819 --> 00:53:55,251
Dance with you until... /
the sun shines.
940
00:53:55,335 --> 00:53:59,452
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
941
00:53:59,493 --> 00:54:03,325
Will shake the night.
942
00:54:03,616 --> 00:54:06,633
Rock With You looks like there's a symbol behind the video.
943
00:54:06,649 --> 00:54:10,136
The circle of light around the angel.
Michael's clothes are shining.
944
00:54:10,306 --> 00:54:13,617
He makes it look cool.
I will never let go of that clothes.
945
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:17,951
Hearing Rock With You
I know where I'm...
946
00:54:17,968 --> 00:54:19,927
... first heard it,
on Pegasus.
947
00:54:19,978 --> 00:54:27,923
When the song appears, everyone at the club stops immediately. They just stare.
948
00:54:29,044 --> 00:54:32,653
And slowly, one by one,
start going down to the floor.
949
00:54:35,244 --> 00:54:40,354
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
950
00:54:40,846 --> 00:54:43,280
Girl./
Sunlight.
951
00:54:43,488 --> 00:54:46,752
Yes, sway with you. /
All night long.
952
00:54:47,261 --> 00:54:49,717
Shaking the night.
953
00:54:50,112 --> 00:54:54,322
I want to rock with you. /
All night long.
954
00:54:54,664 --> 00:54:58,198
Dance with you until... /
the sun shines.
955
00:54:58,410 --> 00:55:02,153
I want to sway with you. /
All night long.
956
00:55:02,888 --> 00:55:04,613
Shaking the night.
957
00:55:05,254 --> 00:55:09,625
Just feel the beat, feel the beat. /
All night long.
958
00:55:10,245 --> 00:55:13,320
Dance with you until... /
the sun shines.
959
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:17,672
I want to shake. /
All night long.
960
00:55:17,823 --> 00:55:19,779
Shaking the night.
961
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,298
Put in the wallet.
962
00:55:21,657 --> 00:55:24,855
I want to shake it, shake it. /
All night long.
963
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,639
I want to shake it, shake it. /
All night long.
964
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,595
I want to shake it, shake it. /
All night long.
965
00:55:36,204 --> 00:55:38,350
I want to shake with you.
966
00:55:39,479 --> 00:55:40,984
Come on, girl.
967
00:55:41,739 --> 00:55:44,076
Sway with me, come on.
968
00:55:48,017 --> 00:55:49,984
The song is high
but smooth.
969
00:55:51,487 --> 00:55:54,074
It's a fast rhythm, it's a fast rhythm.
970
00:55:54,381 --> 00:56:00,849
It is difficult to make high-pitched rhythms, when
dances and becomes emotional at the same time.
971
00:56:00,977 --> 00:56:03,182
Most musicians will
directly to the beat of the groove, so you...
972
00:56:03,331 --> 00:56:05,720
... not much to get
the authenticity of songs at a tempo like that.
973
00:56:05,742 --> 00:56:09,666
So the rhythm doesn't look as good as a good story telling ballad rhythm.
974
00:56:09,784 --> 00:56:14,143
For years, you want rhythm
that has subordinates, who will survive.
975
00:56:14,292 --> 00:56:17,215
And the high-pitched rhythm of Michael
really can survive because...
976
00:56:17,570 --> 00:56:21,314
... he really created
the authenticity of the song above the groove's tempo.
977
00:56:21,508 --> 00:56:24,524
I do repetition, breathing exercises are
in the song Working Day And Night.
978
00:56:25,287 --> 00:56:29,890
I do repetition, almost 1 minute
before I release the song.
979
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:35,605
As if holding people at bay,
like holding 12 pitbuls.
980
00:56:36,547 --> 00:56:37,275
And release.
981
00:56:47,833 --> 00:56:49,690
I'm ashamed to say this, but...
982
00:56:49,959 --> 00:56:55,470
... I usually dance alone with the
Working Day and Night song.
983
00:57:11,535 --> 00:57:13,427
Uh, my dear.
984
00:57:14,062 --> 00:57:16,114
You made me work
day and night.
985
00:57:18,538 --> 00:57:20,268
Uh, my sweetie.
986
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:22,884
You made me work
day and night.
987
00:57:25,230 --> 00:57:29,690
Rub my shoulders.
it feels itchy, makes the itching disappear.
988
00:57:32,032 --> 00:57:36,634
When this ends,
love you will be very true.
989
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,299
I often wonder,
will I love you tonight.
990
00:57:45,627 --> 00:57:50,141
But what is love, girl.
If I'm always far away in the eye.
991
00:57:51,972 --> 00:57:55,452
That's why you made me
work day and night.
992
00:57:55,867 --> 00:57:59,505
And I will work from
sunrise to midnight.
993
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,034
You make me work
day and night.
994
00:58:01,090 --> 00:58:03,126
You make me work
day and night.
995
00:58:03,262 --> 00:58:07,975
You can know which Michael, rhythmically,
is only with the song he wrote.
996
00:58:08,015 --> 00:58:10,988
Easy to remember,
rhythmic music dance.
997
00:58:13,133 --> 00:58:17,141
Michael's reference is of course
R & B, soul and funk American.
998
00:58:17,197 --> 00:58:19,118
But I also heard
Africa on that song.
999
00:58:19,944 --> 00:58:22,970
You have to remember, The Jackson 5
toured Africa in the 70s.
1000
00:58:24,091 --> 00:58:27,602
You made me work
day and night.
1001
00:58:27,969 --> 00:58:29,572
And I will work... /
Everything!
1002
00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:31,606
From sunrise
to midnight.
1003
00:58:31,725 --> 00:58:33,783
You made me work
day and night.
1004
00:58:35,257 --> 00:58:36,501
You made me work...
1005
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:38,307
Work day and night. /
I'm very tired.
1006
00:58:38,626 --> 00:58:40,831
You made me work
day and night.
1007
00:58:41,677 --> 00:58:42,451
That's crazy!
1008
00:58:44,597 --> 00:58:48,494
That is the highest watermark
rows of trumpets, in my opinion.
1009
00:59:03,767 --> 00:59:09,575
All Strech and Break instruments, in this song,
provide a break for the musicians.
1010
00:59:09,723 --> 00:59:14,625
David has this distinctive guitar rhythm. /
Excerpts. twist the guitar strings...
1011
00:59:14,645 --> 00:59:15,478
He picks the strings
so strong.
1012
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,455
All right, David!
You can.
1013
01:00:01,276 --> 01:00:04,028
Sometimes Michael will bring the music higher,
to get the rhythm he wants.
1014
01:00:04,085 --> 01:00:05,118
And that many ways
influence me.
1015
01:00:05,196 --> 01:00:10,115
Michael always has the idea of the sound of the instrument he wants.
And that's how to record.
1016
01:00:10,662 --> 01:00:13,744
You came to the studio,
and he told the guitar player...
1017
01:00:17,064 --> 01:00:25,051
He will sing each part.
He can't play, but can sing.
1018
01:00:25,227 --> 01:00:26,959
If you don't play
exactly as he sang.
1019
01:00:27,075 --> 01:00:31,093
He will sing until you play
exactly as he sang. Crazy!
1020
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,901
I believe in full
in perfection.
1021
01:00:34,336 --> 01:00:37,912
I am never satisfied. I'll cut the track,
and back and back again.
1022
01:00:38,004 --> 01:00:41,742
"Damn, I should do this!"
it's number 1 on the song list and you're still...
1023
01:00:41,790 --> 01:00:43,375
... screaming which
should you do.
1024
01:00:43,392 --> 01:00:45,431
That is proof. When you see
someone works.
1025
01:00:45,869 --> 01:00:49,169
You can see the details if they really
love what they do.
1026
01:00:49,509 --> 01:00:51,196
How they are
pay attention to skills.
1027
01:00:51,278 --> 01:00:52,814
Perfection, is the name
of this game.
1028
01:00:52,884 --> 01:00:55,269
It's about what you want to do.
1029
01:00:56,115 --> 01:00:59,477
The quality of its contents, his heart,
his soul and his love.
1030
01:00:59,742 --> 01:01:03,275
I think this generation has...
the perception has been tilted.
1031
01:01:03,413 --> 01:01:05,710
Love of skills,
has become number 2 of...
1032
01:01:06,366 --> 01:01:09,070
... love for
fame and fame.
1033
01:01:09,212 --> 01:01:11,226
My generation, namely
the generation of Jordan.
1034
01:01:11,928 --> 01:01:14,400
Bird, Magic, Michael Jackson.
1035
01:01:15,003 --> 01:01:17,761
They focus on what they like to do.
1036
01:01:17,783 --> 01:01:20,993
One of the hidden gems
on the album is Get On The Floor.
1037
01:01:21,135 --> 01:01:26,456
Written together by
Louis Johnson and Michael.
1038
01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:29,681
I don't know if everyone also knows
if you are also a composer.
1039
01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:33,271
One of my favorites is Get On The Floor
that belongs to Michael Jackson.
1040
01:01:33,356 --> 01:01:37,186
Originally the song was created by The Bass,
which I have is only the groove.
1041
01:01:58,823 --> 01:02:00,606
The dancers routinely play
on children's playgrounds.
1042
01:02:00,947 --> 01:02:05,733
I'm like, dating myself, it's okay, but you have to carry a small radio.
1043
01:02:05,957 --> 01:02:10,738
Or sometimes if you really stick,
you'll bring a small portable recorder.
1044
01:02:11,025 --> 01:02:15,632
Immerse in the park, put the needle in the marker,
and so, it's certain.
1045
01:02:16,247 --> 01:02:18,760
If you dance with
the song Get On The Floor.
1046
01:02:18,785 --> 01:02:21,096
A little more, you go home
bring someone.
1047
01:02:21,528 --> 01:02:23,616
Because it's not the type of song
for you to dance alone.
1048
01:02:24,358 --> 01:02:27,723
You won't dance the song Get On The Floor
just alone.
1049
01:02:27,905 --> 01:02:30,721
Dancing across the floor.
1050
01:02:32,218 --> 01:02:34,087
Because there is a chance
for several occasions.
1051
01:02:34,176 --> 01:02:35,834
And the opportunity
is to choose.
1052
01:02:36,146 --> 01:02:39,609
And I'm sure I will
groove with you.
1053
01:02:39,917 --> 01:02:42,058
So come down to the floor.
1054
01:02:43,466 --> 01:02:46,000
And dancing with me.
1055
01:02:46,620 --> 01:02:50,107
Off The Wall is a dream of a DJ.
1056
01:02:50,184 --> 01:02:54,377
On the A side, like devoted to songs on the floor.
1057
01:02:54,483 --> 01:02:58,934
You basically have 5 songs.
4 songs on side-1.
1058
01:02:59,337 --> 01:03:02,361
And the first song on side-2,
Off The Wall.
1059
01:03:02,377 --> 01:03:06,456
My favorite record on Off The Wall,
I like Off The Wall.
1060
01:03:06,503 --> 01:03:08,772
That's one of my favorite recordings.
1061
01:03:08,866 --> 01:03:12,058
I take the opportunity
work with a composer.
1062
01:03:12,093 --> 01:03:14,311
The old one
I like his works.
1063
01:03:14,344 --> 01:03:17,572
I don't think
he is from Grimsby, England...
1064
01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:22,005
... live in Worms, Germany,
but understand Is not No Half-Steppin.
1065
01:03:22,224 --> 01:03:26,036
And all the different terms are written
. What an extraordinary talent.
1066
01:03:26,138 --> 01:03:28,474
Rod ends in Germany,
and forms into soul music...
1067
01:03:28,475 --> 01:03:30,878
... by a group of black soldiers
who were there.
1068
01:03:30,973 --> 01:03:32,785
- Black American soldiers?
- Correct.
1069
01:03:33,064 --> 01:03:36,046
Then I thought, "Wow, this is far more interesting
than I do."
1070
01:03:36,086 --> 01:03:37,321
And the girls come to the show.
1071
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:41,576
At the beginning of the heat wave,
can you hear those influences...
1072
01:03:41,755 --> 01:03:42,876
... on the song that
Rod writes for Michael.
1073
01:03:43,156 --> 01:03:45,152
And that is
natural progress.
1074
01:03:45,305 --> 01:03:48,015
And we make recordings
Burn This Disco Out.
1075
01:03:49,183 --> 01:03:51,045
Off The Wall
and Rock With You.
1076
01:03:53,846 --> 01:03:55,449
Rod Temperton is indeed good.
1077
01:03:55,699 --> 01:04:02,887
Off The Wall is an example of him bringing
aspects of the combination of proggy into it.
1078
01:04:03,128 --> 01:04:05,396
That is an inconventional beginning
for a disco recording.
1079
01:04:05,561 --> 01:04:07,830
Especially, the track title on the album,
starts with that.
1080
01:04:07,964 --> 01:04:12,550
It starts in offbeat, starts in the 2nd beat,
strange vocal in the background.
1081
01:04:12,852 --> 01:04:13,921
Really proggy (progressive rock).
1082
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,750
Intro with a kind of disgusting
sound and so on.
1083
01:04:16,765 --> 01:04:18,697
You start to hear it again
on the Thriller song.
1084
01:04:18,835 --> 01:04:19,775
With Vincent Price.
1085
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,946
When the world is on your shoulder.
1086
01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:33,553
Must straighten your behavior
and boogie ria.
1087
01:04:34,359 --> 01:04:37,688
If you can't do
with feelings.
1088
01:04:37,853 --> 01:04:40,702
Then nobody
will drop you.
1089
01:04:41,494 --> 01:04:44,839
Because we are party people
day and night.
1090
01:04:45,249 --> 01:04:48,034
Crazy life is the only way
.
1091
01:04:48,196 --> 01:04:50,024
So tonight.
1092
01:04:50,693 --> 01:04:53,473
Must enter the shelf
work habits at 9 am to 5 pm.
1093
01:04:53,775 --> 01:04:55,469
And just enjoy yourself.
1094
01:04:55,885 --> 01:04:57,328
Groove.
1095
01:04:57,774 --> 01:05:00,364
Let the madness of music
enter you.
1096
01:05:00,804 --> 01:05:03,645
Life isn't
bad at all.
1097
01:05:03,954 --> 01:05:05,398
If you don't
care about it.
1098
01:05:05,498 --> 01:05:07,448
Life isn't
bad at all.
1099
01:05:08,727 --> 01:05:11,206
Live your life without caring. /
Yes.
1100
01:05:12,226 --> 01:05:15,180
Do what you want
you do.
1101
01:05:15,537 --> 01:05:17,271
There are no rules.
1102
01:05:17,541 --> 01:05:19,572
It's up to you. /
There's no regulation, it's up to you.
1103
01:05:19,661 --> 01:05:22,519
It's time to come back to life.
1104
01:05:23,064 --> 01:05:26,546
And partying all night.
1105
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:35,288
Girlfriend is a song on the album London Town
owned by Paul McCartney.
1106
01:05:35,339 --> 01:05:37,854
"Girl friend, I will say to your male friend."
1107
01:05:38,936 --> 01:05:39,513
I like that.
1108
01:05:39,735 --> 01:05:42,132
Girl friend.
1109
01:05:42,454 --> 01:05:45,912
I will say
to your male friends.
1110
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:50,389
I feel like Michael is singing to me on the song, really!
1111
01:05:50,783 --> 01:05:54,205
If we go with
and a group of girls start following me.
1112
01:05:54,436 --> 01:05:57,727
Let's listen to what you will say to them so they go.
1113
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,071
Go from him.
He is mine not yours.
1114
01:06:08,813 --> 01:06:12,182
The same question,
number 2.
1115
01:06:12,352 --> 01:06:15,785
Hey listen,
Michael Jackson is mine !.
1116
01:06:20,725 --> 01:06:23,412
Some of the songs I sing, my favorite is ballads.
1117
01:06:24,103 --> 01:06:25,868
I like listening to his words.
1118
01:06:26,346 --> 01:06:28,431
And really related to
with something.
1119
01:06:28,541 --> 01:06:30,609
I wrote She ’s Out Of My Life is the result...
1120
01:06:31,482 --> 01:06:34,679
... I am in love with
an amazing young girl.
1121
01:06:34,766 --> 01:06:38,445
Have you ever been so disappointed? Talking to yourself loudly.
1122
01:06:38,893 --> 01:06:42,571
I've ever been. I was in the car,
on the Pasadena highway and said...
1123
01:06:42,877 --> 01:06:46,497
"Gosh, he's there for you,
he loves you, he wants to marry you."
1124
01:06:46,633 --> 01:06:50,424
"You're the only one who says no.
Face that, he's out of your life."
1125
01:06:50,466 --> 01:06:54,617
Saturday morning, the telephone rang, it was Q.
he said, "Hey, bro, are you writing?"
1126
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,985
And I play the song, and ring loudly.
and he said, "Play again."
1127
01:06:58,194 --> 01:07:01,414
I rotate again, turn 8 times
in a row.
1128
01:07:01,493 --> 01:07:03,767
At the end he said, "what will you do with it?"
1129
01:07:03,802 --> 01:07:06,236
I said, "I made an
deal with Snuffy yesterday."
1130
01:07:06,302 --> 01:07:07,797
"Snuffy will do the song
with Sinatra."
1131
01:07:08,166 --> 01:07:12,067
Quincy says, this is a little Q-ism,
"Sinatra will still do it."
1132
01:07:12,359 --> 01:07:14,343
I said, "Okay, Q. Then who are you going to do?"
1133
01:07:14,473 --> 01:07:17,634
He said, "I have no instructions,
, man, if you believe me..."
1134
01:07:18,094 --> 01:07:24,380
"I promised an unforgettable recording
for this song."
1135
01:07:25,955 --> 01:07:28,199
And we occupied it
for almost 2 years, Spike.
1136
01:07:28,471 --> 01:07:30,892
To write a great ballad,
first, in lyrics.
1137
01:07:31,026 --> 01:07:36,175
The contents must be connected, for me,
the part that makes the song connect...
1138
01:07:36,262 --> 01:07:41,097
is personal,
but also universal.
1139
01:07:41,136 --> 01:07:47,977
Michael Jackson, a great entertainer.
Great dancer, also a great singer.
1140
01:07:48,123 --> 01:07:50,171
Not a good singer,
but a great singer.
1141
01:07:50,187 --> 01:07:55,906
I like Michael's appearance in She's Out of My Life. Really emotional.
1142
01:07:55,977 --> 01:08:03,854
Michael's voice quality
is extraordinarily pure.
1143
01:08:04,110 --> 01:08:08,207
He is out of my life.
1144
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:16,463
He is out of my life.
1145
01:08:18,398 --> 01:08:25,281
And I don't know whether
should laugh or cry.
1146
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:32,186
I don't know whether
must live or die.
1147
01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:36,631
And it's cutting like a knife.
1148
01:08:37,251 --> 01:08:43,030
He is out of my life.
1149
01:08:43,392 --> 01:08:46,837
I cry every time
he shows She ’s Out of My Life.
1150
01:08:46,957 --> 01:08:48,944
And he will cry too.
1151
01:08:48,970 --> 01:08:51,773
Everyone associates She ’s Out Of My Life
to Eddie Murphy, right?
1152
01:08:51,808 --> 01:08:55,286
Anyone who grew up in the 80s.
We witness Delirious first.
1153
01:08:55,508 --> 01:08:57,504
That is Michael's hook,
sensitivity.
1154
01:08:57,766 --> 01:09:00,425
Many women will say,
"Michael is very sensitive."
1155
01:09:01,252 --> 01:09:04,241
They are consumed by it. Mike also knew
so he would use a woman.
1156
01:09:04,375 --> 01:09:07,141
In the concert I saw Mike walk
to the female audience and say...
1157
01:09:07,323 --> 01:09:08,472
Can I come
down there?
1158
01:09:09,055 --> 01:09:12,135
The woman directly,
"Ahhhhhhh!"
1159
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:17,166
then if you don't scream,
Michael will be very sensitive.
1160
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:18,323
And crying on your butt.
1161
01:09:18,763 --> 01:09:21,306
Have you ever heard of She's Out Of My Life recordings?
Michael is like this...
1162
01:09:21,383 --> 01:09:26,882
So I have learned
if love is not mine.
1163
01:09:27,903 --> 01:09:33,739
And I have learned,
if love won't wait.
1164
01:09:34,670 --> 01:09:40,521
Now I have learned,
if love needs expression.
1165
01:09:41,102 --> 01:09:46,499
But my learning
is too late.
1166
01:09:47,044 --> 01:09:53,349
And he's out of my life.
1167
01:09:57,635 --> 01:10:03,154
He is out of my life.
1168
01:10:04,837 --> 01:10:08,508
Cursed confusion.
1169
01:10:08,922 --> 01:10:11,766
And pride is cursed.
1170
01:10:12,983 --> 01:10:15,303
I save
my love for him.
1171
01:10:15,511 --> 01:10:19,076
Deep key.
1172
01:10:19,351 --> 01:10:24,331
And it cuts
like a knife.
1173
01:10:25,793 --> 01:10:32,646
He came out of...
1174
01:10:54,157 --> 01:11:01,889
... my life.
1175
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,756
Tito, give me a tissue.
1176
01:11:33,948 --> 01:11:35,705
I have the opportunity to hear
setting the tone.
1177
01:11:35,771 --> 01:11:37,357
Where Michael tries
do a little difference.
1178
01:11:37,785 --> 01:11:41,432
And Michael really apologized,
for messing up the song.
1179
01:11:43,529 --> 01:11:45,633
I'm sorry
already messed it up.
1180
01:11:45,732 --> 01:11:48,240
Amazing, because every Michael
sing that song, he cries.
1181
01:11:48,326 --> 01:11:50,442
And I tried to find out what relationship he was living.
1182
01:11:50,941 --> 01:11:52,092
He identifies
with the song.
1183
01:11:52,344 --> 01:11:56,045
Michael did it 2-3 times and said,
"this should happen." Let it be.
1184
01:11:56,076 --> 01:11:59,288
A lower producer will be drained because of how valuable it is.
1185
01:11:59,351 --> 01:12:01,777
Drained by all the very valuable dramas.
1186
01:12:02,749 --> 01:12:06,355
If Puffy produces
She's Out of My Life.
1187
01:12:07,011 --> 01:12:12,928
Puffy will have lots of tissue,
sort of a tour sponsor.
1188
01:12:13,238 --> 01:12:16,670
People talk about problems,
"what did he cry?"
1189
01:12:16,688 --> 01:12:18,636
Who does he mean?
does he talk about Brooke Shields?
1190
01:12:19,211 --> 01:12:20,485
Which girl is he talking about?
1191
01:12:20,929 --> 01:12:22,601
Is he still talking about
_ about Ben, the rat?
1192
01:12:22,635 --> 01:12:25,934
Publicly, we see it
the road with Stephanie Mills.
1193
01:12:26,074 --> 01:12:29,660
Walk with Tatum O'Neal,
Maureen McCormick from The Brady Bunch.
1194
01:12:29,759 --> 01:12:33,426
Girls will gather and,
"I wonder who he meant."
1195
01:12:33,628 --> 01:12:36,422
Understand what I mean?
And you will see Tiger Beat magazine.
1196
01:12:36,475 --> 01:12:38,090
To see the gossip column
or whatever.
1197
01:12:38,209 --> 01:12:41,172
"Who made Michael cry?"
so our view.
1198
01:12:41,410 --> 01:12:44,384
Not because I made Michael cry,
I will never make Michael cry.
1199
01:12:44,464 --> 01:12:53,240
She 's Out Of My Life in my opinion,
1 of 2 songs on the album Off The Wall...
1200
01:12:53,463 --> 01:12:55,613
... where there are no songs on the Thriller album
that exceed the song.
1201
01:12:55,808 --> 01:13:00,566
Quiet Storm is being great in 1970,
a type of radio format for black music.
1202
01:13:00,836 --> 01:13:04,770
That celebrates intimacy, sensuality,
atmosphere, tenderness and calmness.
1203
01:13:04,899 --> 01:13:07,462
Can not Help It really is a
demographic Quiet Storm.
1204
01:13:07,715 --> 01:13:10,142
A kind of midnight romance
women's dressing room.
1205
01:13:10,182 --> 01:13:16,295
That was the first time you heard Michael sound
like an adult, my opinion.
1206
01:13:16,348 --> 01:13:21,470
It sounds like it's coming out of its R & B.
Starts with jazz.
1207
01:13:21,702 --> 01:13:24,779
Susaye Greene is starting to work on the song.
He joined the Supremes.
1208
01:13:25,075 --> 01:13:26,198
And he also sang
with Stevie.
1209
01:13:26,266 --> 01:13:28,866
It will match the album
Songs In The Key Of Life, really.
1210
01:13:28,907 --> 01:13:32,011
That should be one of the songs
in Songs In The Key Of Life.
1211
01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:33,840
Look, right?
I don't know that.
1212
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,819
Michael has, "I can't help if I want" .
The hook.
1213
01:13:37,819 --> 01:13:41,559
I think Susaye wrote a lot of lyrics when we were in the studio.
1214
01:13:41,657 --> 01:13:43,061
- Play with the song.
- It is true.
1215
01:13:54,724 --> 01:13:56,455
I can't help.
1216
01:14:00,992 --> 01:14:04,333
I Can not Help It is my favorite.
Stevie did more on the song.
1217
01:14:04,444 --> 01:14:06,308
The natural chord
is very nocturnal.
1218
01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:09,010
That doesn't sound like
during the day to me.
1219
01:14:09,595 --> 01:14:14,427
Sounds like
beautiful night of heaven.
1220
01:14:15,178 --> 01:14:19,482
A place that is not polluted by humans.
Mystical world.
1221
01:14:20,494 --> 01:14:22,246
With Unicorn walking around
around him.
1222
01:14:22,477 --> 01:14:27,169
My sister Renee is listening to the
cassette I play.
1223
01:14:27,318 --> 01:14:32,538
He and Michael are friends. He took the tape
and played it to Michael.
1224
01:14:32,666 --> 01:14:36,109
I think it's great what Michael did,
he did an amazing job.
1225
01:14:36,145 --> 01:14:37,535
The melodies are very tempting.
1226
01:14:37,686 --> 01:14:43,269
They carry several lines and chords
characteristic of Stevie in the song.
1227
01:14:43,299 --> 01:14:47,397
I really believe that album.
First of all, I believe in Michael Jackson.
1228
01:14:47,493 --> 01:14:49,402
Stevie Wonder.
I love Stevie Wonder.
1229
01:14:49,524 --> 01:14:52,124
Together with Stevie Wonder.
are in the sessions.
1230
01:14:52,461 --> 01:14:56,047
Just sit and study,
so extraordinary.
1231
01:14:56,144 --> 01:14:58,778
You can put it I Can not Help It now
and I'm still looking for something...
1232
01:14:59,038 --> 01:15:00,558
... which I have never heard,
or remind me of something.
1233
01:15:00,724 --> 01:15:05,255
Or the warmth of the bass line becomes,
sort of cleanse you.
1234
01:15:05,317 --> 01:15:07,510
Like you will never be fed up with
in that music.
1235
01:15:07,561 --> 01:15:14,552
I made a recording in 1977.
We made It's The Falling In Love.
1236
01:15:14,801 --> 01:15:18,106
We write it together, I know
David Foster is playing there.
1237
01:15:18,219 --> 01:15:22,159
I think my record is presented with... / Demo.
/ With a demo.
1238
01:15:22,168 --> 01:15:26,686
Patti Austin is a singer in the
society of singer Quincy Jones.
1239
01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:31,534
The first time I heard Patti Austin's voice,
was on It's The Falling In Love.
1240
01:15:31,588 --> 01:15:34,437
The most profound thing is
a recording in those days.
1241
01:15:34,516 --> 01:15:37,762
Which can make the sound sound modern
is very dependent on...
1242
01:15:38,048 --> 01:15:39,976
... very special technology
in those days.
1243
01:15:40,003 --> 01:15:43,422
And in the 80s,
was all about the 80s.
1244
01:15:43,444 --> 01:15:46,747
In the late 70s,
you had massive disco claps.
1245
01:15:46,795 --> 01:15:52,669
This album may be a distant mistake
from the most recent disco recording.
1246
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:55,280
The recording has no tricks or tricks.
1247
01:15:55,488 --> 01:16:01,157
Although neatly arranged,
and all percussion parts and other parts run.
1248
01:16:01,295 --> 01:16:06,146
It's no more than just a group of men
playing songs in a room.
1249
01:16:06,527 --> 01:16:07,504
That will never be renewable.
1250
01:16:07,561 --> 01:16:14,663
In many ways, Off The Wall,
is probably the pinnacle of classic disco.
1251
01:16:15,173 --> 01:16:17,241
Appears in August 1979.
1252
01:16:17,766 --> 01:16:22,484
The Disco Sucks movement starts
the previous month, in July.
1253
01:16:22,569 --> 01:16:27,628
Surprisingly, DJ Steve Dahl in Chicago,
gathered a lot of people...
1254
01:16:28,005 --> 01:16:30,566
... to Comiskey Park in Chicago,
to burn disco recordings.
1255
01:16:30,766 --> 01:16:35,708
Where indirectly is
racist acts and a kind of homophobic movement.
1256
01:16:35,797 --> 01:16:41,525
People want to move the popular music path
back to the time they feel comfortable.
1257
01:16:41,912 --> 01:16:45,338
Which one is not black,
is not gay, not latin.
1258
01:16:45,488 --> 01:16:47,598
Burn This Disco Out maybe
has become the right title.
1259
01:16:47,601 --> 01:16:51,488
Because it comes, literally,
at the end of the disco era.
1260
01:16:51,585 --> 01:16:56,129
At the end of the disco recording
but moves the genre forward.
1261
01:16:56,292 --> 01:17:02,195
Far from the music of the disco factory,
that is stirring up the beat of the factory.
1262
01:17:02,209 --> 01:17:08,119
You can feel some kind of deep energy.
Off The Wall is like lightning in a bottle.
1263
01:17:08,219 --> 01:17:12,940
You caught Michael Jackson at the age of 20
together with all the excitement...
1264
01:17:13,104 --> 01:17:16,560
... energy and desire,
who still come on the tape.
1265
01:17:16,597 --> 01:17:20,578
This is a cassette with the 8 most recent tracks
that my parents bought.
1266
01:17:20,708 --> 01:17:22,336
Before I stop
buy a cassette with 8 tracks.
1267
01:17:22,464 --> 01:17:28,089
I remember Off The Wall coming out
in the second week of August 1979.
1268
01:17:28,144 --> 01:17:33,265
The album's departure is like an album
which is in the norm and career of someone...
1269
01:17:33,556 --> 01:17:37,240
... where they make rounds 180 degrees
from what they already know.
1270
01:17:37,469 --> 01:17:42,254
Michael is no longer a performer,
is no longer shy, awkward...
1271
01:17:42,291 --> 01:17:43,685
... pimply men who can't adjust themselves.
1272
01:17:44,086 --> 01:17:47,230
He suddenly becomes jovial,
confident.
1273
01:17:47,375 --> 01:17:49,015
You can see it on the cover of the album Off The Wall.
1274
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:51,582
Looks like a night picture
school breakup, with a suit and tie.
1275
01:17:51,914 --> 01:17:53,901
Like Frank Sinatra,
a Sammy Davis plagiarism.
1276
01:17:53,911 --> 01:17:57,332
Now he's a free playboy,
who is on the streets of New York.
1277
01:17:57,661 --> 01:17:58,996
Again, life is spinning.
1278
01:17:59,416 --> 01:18:08,124
I think of sophistication, glamor,
provocateurs, think of everything I want.
1279
01:18:08,142 --> 01:18:10,323
Oh yeah. I'm interested in promotion.
1280
01:18:10,554 --> 01:18:13,619
I want to do things that have never been done before.
1281
01:18:14,085 --> 01:18:17,385
If not for promotion,
who would get to know The Jackson 5?
1282
01:18:17,496 --> 01:18:19,751
Who will know
if we exist.
1283
01:18:19,886 --> 01:18:23,475
I will not be able to translate my music
into different countries.
1284
01:18:23,581 --> 01:18:29,238
Africa, Japan, New Zealand, Scotland,
all reach Australia.
1285
01:18:29,339 --> 01:18:30,911
There is a universal core in music.
1286
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,356
Which I think goes beyond even
about what it is crossing.
1287
01:18:33,443 --> 01:18:37,075
Here we see crossing as a black and bright market.
1288
01:18:37,084 --> 01:18:38,909
What we have faced for years.
1289
01:18:38,933 --> 01:18:41,291
But I guess things about Michael,
go even past that.
1290
01:18:41,323 --> 01:18:45,324
When you go to Argentina, Israel and Spain, Scandinavia and Australia.
1291
01:18:45,841 --> 01:18:48,156
I think the variety of modes and music of people
is a universal language.
1292
01:18:48,311 --> 01:18:51,704
Wherever you go, you will hear the same song in certain countries.
1293
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,870
And when people unite because of these songs,
they are all happy and peaceful.
1294
01:18:56,077 --> 01:18:57,558
Because many people don't even speak English...
1295
01:18:57,563 --> 01:19:00,015
... when you travel the world,
but they know the song.
1296
01:19:00,112 --> 01:19:02,827
They know the music, and as much as possible
they will learn the lyrics.
1297
01:19:02,856 --> 01:19:05,194
And it's really beautiful how...
1298
01:19:05,392 --> 01:19:08,049
... you can unite people
only through music.
1299
01:19:08,126 --> 01:19:13,946
Michael Jackson can appear without words,
and 100,000 people at the Olympic stadium...
1300
01:19:13,977 --> 01:19:15,340
... can feel that
he is there for them.
1301
01:19:15,465 --> 01:19:19,078
Everyone feels that they have a special bond with him.
1302
01:19:20,191 --> 01:19:23,975
That's how big he is,
he makes you feel that.
1303
01:19:24,248 --> 01:19:25,960
Michael inspires me to be a better person.
1304
01:19:26,188 --> 01:19:30,745
I believe that musical blessings
which God gave to our families...
1305
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,936
... the true mission behind that, is to
unite the whole world through music.
1306
01:19:36,055 --> 01:19:41,142
It's about transforming the world into a better place for our children to grow.
1307
01:19:41,347 --> 01:19:46,124
He has seen what happened to artists
James Brown, Little Richard, Jackie Wilson.
1308
01:19:46,502 --> 01:19:49,076
Sometimes the music industry is unfair
on black artists.
1309
01:19:49,103 --> 01:19:51,066
I remember having argued
in a meeting about...
1310
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:56,212
"How could Michael not be the cover
People magazine? Or the cover of Us magazine?"
1311
01:19:56,432 --> 01:19:59,739
Pop music radio station doesn't want to
play Off The Wall at first.
1312
01:19:59,890 --> 01:20:01,474
Women section of the publication
have told me...
1313
01:20:01,692 --> 01:20:05,796
"If black skin is installed as
magazine cover, the magazine won't sell."
1314
01:20:05,807 --> 01:20:09,042
Michael Jackson is a decent artist
because of himself.
1315
01:20:09,220 --> 01:20:14,458
If they give the opportunity,
he can win the radio station. And proven.
1316
01:20:14,590 --> 01:20:19,365
Michael makes us feel like,
This is where we are, where we are always there and not.
1317
01:20:19,551 --> 01:20:23,724
There are children born when
Obama is in Government.
1318
01:20:23,756 --> 01:20:26,419
So they don't understand that
there was ever a white President.
1319
01:20:26,498 --> 01:20:27,803
They don't even know how
have a white President.
1320
01:20:27,956 --> 01:20:32,226
I don't know how it feels
if I don't have a black Pop singer.
1321
01:20:32,337 --> 01:20:36,726
Because Michael makes us feel and believe
that it is all just the norm.
1322
01:20:36,765 --> 01:20:40,993
He brings black music to the place where music becomes human music.
1323
01:20:41,022 --> 01:20:43,579
Music doesn't have skin color,
music should be like that.
1324
01:20:44,621 --> 01:20:46,034
I don't believe
that kind of thing.
1325
01:20:46,262 --> 01:20:49,205
What I do, I don't want to label my music
in black or white.
1326
01:20:49,365 --> 01:20:51,258
What I want, label it
with the name of the music.
1327
01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:52,633
The time is simpler.
1328
01:20:52,953 --> 01:20:56,375
And the radio is very concerned with such things.
1329
01:20:56,458 --> 01:21:01,477
Hey, let's start first with a high tempo,
position ourselves properly...
1330
01:21:01,490 --> 01:21:06,510
... just played the ballad rhythm,
and finally..., won Gold, won Platinum.
1331
01:21:06,597 --> 01:21:09,502
Four songs on the top 10
Billboard charts.
1332
01:21:09,716 --> 01:21:12,548
Not included by being number 1
on R & B radio stations.
1333
01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:13,887
That never happened before.
1334
01:21:13,911 --> 01:21:16,460
Some people see
as a disco album.
1335
01:21:16,823 --> 01:21:19,235
Where if you remember again,
opinions seem so stupid...
1336
01:21:19,294 --> 01:21:23,901
Because it's one of the most influential creative albums in history.
1337
01:21:23,927 --> 01:21:28,200
You look back at the album album Off The Wall,
their R & B Awards.
1338
01:21:28,304 --> 01:21:30,827
The music industry is still very isolated.
1339
01:21:31,291 --> 01:21:35,474
And Michael was only nominated
for the R & B awards category, and he won.
1340
01:21:37,116 --> 01:21:43,199
Fever,
the temperature is rising now.
1341
01:21:44,975 --> 01:21:51,331
Strength, Oh strength
is power and oath.
1342
01:21:51,554 --> 01:21:52,650
Michael thinks it's not fair.
1343
01:21:52,798 --> 01:21:54,664
He thinks they are harassing him,
That is not fair.
1344
01:21:54,845 --> 01:21:58,031
Michael came to me and said,
"Mother, next year..."
1345
01:21:58,271 --> 01:22:00,201
... "they will have to give
that award to me."
1346
01:22:00,261 --> 01:22:02,578
And the award is
because of the Thriller song, right?
1347
01:22:02,602 --> 01:22:06,393
Off The Wall is a kind of blue print for R & B music.
1348
01:22:06,581 --> 01:22:09,718
And I guess most
artists now know that.
1349
01:22:09,769 --> 01:22:13,261
It is difficult to be able to produce albums
that are fresh and new all the time.
1350
01:22:13,367 --> 01:22:15,253
They will come back and say,
"What song is great?"
1351
01:22:15,441 --> 01:22:16,784
"What songs have been made and great?"
1352
01:22:17,074 --> 01:22:19,482
And they find themselves
are listening to Off The Wall.
1353
01:22:19,627 --> 01:22:23,649
Then they try to make a little peace and say,
"see how he made this song?"
1354
01:22:23,662 --> 01:22:24,599
"We have to make it like that too."
1355
01:22:24,752 --> 01:22:26,698
"Look at the way they make the music?
We have to make it like that too."
1356
01:22:27,028 --> 01:22:28,365
I'm like those people too,
that's why I know.
1357
01:22:28,650 --> 01:22:31,348
The album, you hear it
in music all the time.
1358
01:22:31,445 --> 01:22:33,573
Pharrell gets to Justin Timberlake.
1359
01:22:33,656 --> 01:22:36,347
My music won't be here
if it's not because of the influence of Michael's Music.
1360
01:22:36,495 --> 01:22:38,862
Off The Wall and also
Michael's next album.
1361
01:22:39,036 --> 01:22:40,725
I don't have music
if not for Michael.
1362
01:22:40,881 --> 01:22:45,835
I don't think there are any other music recordings that I didn't play in the 20-year Djing period.
1363
01:22:45,951 --> 01:22:51,189
10,000 - 15,000 times I release
LPs for those songs.
1364
01:22:51,231 --> 01:22:53,778
Off The Wall is an
album that I continue to play until now.
1365
01:22:54,017 --> 01:22:57,027
That's the album I played when I wanted to teach my daughter to dance.
1366
01:22:57,274 --> 01:23:00,396
The album is a time of music soul magic.
1367
01:23:00,498 --> 01:23:03,374
And when I say magic realism, I mean, the album is transformative.
1368
01:23:03,459 --> 01:23:05,091
The album takes you
to another place.
1369
01:23:05,147 --> 01:23:07,168
The album is so rich,
music.
1370
01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:09,849
Arrangement, singing,
backing vocals.
1371
01:23:09,854 --> 01:23:11,289
Michael taught me that,
melody is the king.
1372
01:23:11,549 --> 01:23:16,673
He said the baby did not sing the lyrics,
they hummed the melody.
1373
01:23:16,848 --> 01:23:18,718
A-B-C-D-E-F-G.
1374
01:23:19,295 --> 01:23:21,814
Babies may not know
all letters in the alphabet.
1375
01:23:21,876 --> 01:23:23,453
But they know
melody on the song.
1376
01:23:23,646 --> 01:23:24,904
That's how I see music.
1377
01:23:24,978 --> 01:23:27,658
I always see music like,
example of a small portal.
1378
01:23:27,922 --> 01:23:31,069
You listen to a song ?, well,
you can cross to this land. Whenever possible.
1379
01:23:31,092 --> 01:23:34,658
In the first year alone, the album sold more than 6 million copies.
1380
01:23:34,886 --> 01:23:37,650
The sale has been overshadowed by
by the sale of the Thriller album.
1381
01:23:37,851 --> 01:23:40,964
There will be no Thriller album without album
Off The Wall. Everyone knows that.
1382
01:23:41,051 --> 01:23:44,128
When Michael entered the studio to work on the
Thriller album, he meant it.
1383
01:23:44,166 --> 01:23:47,044
Very serious,
to make the biggest album in history.
1384
01:23:47,111 --> 01:23:49,041
And amazingly,
he really made it happen.
1385
01:23:49,114 --> 01:23:51,577
Whatever your highest game,
you will be above the game.
1386
01:23:51,748 --> 01:23:52,602
That is the gift.
1387
01:23:52,649 --> 01:23:57,828
You deal with a true artist.
Specialized in art.
1388
01:23:58,010 --> 01:24:00,226
And the others
are number 2.
1389
01:24:00,376 --> 01:24:04,907
I think people are very easily distracted,
then talk about Michael's skin color.
1390
01:24:04,924 --> 01:24:08,980
Don't focus on who he is,
and how his skin can be like that.
1391
01:24:09,171 --> 01:24:11,683
And how can you
learn from it.
1392
01:24:11,758 --> 01:24:13,892
You do an approach to something
like how to approach music.
1393
01:24:15,209 --> 01:24:17,404
That way you will be
phenomenal.
1394
01:24:17,732 --> 01:24:20,950
And the idea, separated from your brothers and sisters, is that painful?
1395
01:24:22,154 --> 01:24:24,119
No, it doesn't hurt.
1396
01:24:25,931 --> 01:24:30,965
Because there are other types of sounds and music
that I want to do.
1397
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,340
Painful if my will is
is in me and I can't take it out.
1398
01:24:34,471 --> 01:24:37,613
And hidden to be seen by the world.
When I made my solo album.
1399
01:24:37,661 --> 01:24:41,964
And make all kinds of music
different. It's amazing.
1400
01:24:41,992 --> 01:24:44,259
I feel like I've reached what I should have achieved.
1401
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:46,707
And you don't feel guilty
or worry about your brothers?
1402
01:24:46,916 --> 01:24:48,845
No, because they understand.
1403
01:24:50,485 --> 01:24:54,119
Why is it something to hide.
Why hide, just share it.
1404
01:24:54,250 --> 01:24:56,246
Off The Wall will live forever.
1405
01:24:56,548 --> 01:25:01,098
It was a 1979 album, but this is just the beginning of the recording.
1406
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:02,677
Just beginning.
1407
01:25:03,086 --> 01:25:09,967
New people, will explore and
find the album, today and tomorrow.
1408
01:25:10,259 --> 01:25:13,058
And the album will be something new
for them, today and tomorrow.
1409
01:25:13,254 --> 01:25:14,231
This is just the beginning.
1410
01:25:14,581 --> 01:25:22,869
Michael transcends sexual boundaries,
tribal boundaries, he will bring everyone.
1411
01:25:22,914 --> 01:25:29,739
Old, young, gay, normal.
Wherever you go, there will be a smile there.
1412
01:25:29,826 --> 01:25:33,191
The beauty of Michael's divinity,
and what he left for us...
1413
01:25:33,431 --> 01:25:34,834
... with so much joy.
1414
01:25:35,617 --> 01:25:45,655
And a lot of gratitude has been given to me, I mean to everyone but...
1415
01:25:45,793 --> 01:25:47,673
I want to be a little selfish here...
1416
01:25:47,905 --> 01:25:53,313
What he gave me, and I'm glad
find that joy again.
1417
01:25:53,663 --> 01:25:57,367
And I feel that,
his enthusiasm is still with me.
1418
01:25:57,459 --> 01:26:03,922
Michael goes beyond what I expected about him.
1419
01:26:03,938 --> 01:26:07,339
I expect a big deal
with him, and he surpasses my expectations.
1420
01:26:07,513 --> 01:26:09,756
There is an element of Godhead, which exists
in some people.
1421
01:26:10,019 --> 01:26:13,606
In some people, God stretches out his hand
longer and continues to endure.
1422
01:26:14,752 --> 01:26:20,044
Secretly and privately, in depth, there is a destiny.
1423
01:26:21,132 --> 01:26:24,014
And for me to stay on that fate and follow it.
1424
01:26:24,491 --> 01:26:27,021
I really believe and feel,
I'm here for a reason.
1425
01:26:27,178 --> 01:26:31,369
And that's my job,
to appear for others.
1426
01:26:31,724 --> 01:26:33,369
And if they
accept my appearance.
1427
01:26:33,546 --> 01:26:34,962
I feel appreciated.
1428
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:37,302
If they want to put me
on a mat.
1429
01:26:37,458 --> 01:26:39,027
I feel even better.
1430
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,176
Have you ever wanted to stop?
1431
01:26:40,890 --> 01:26:43,354
No. Don't stop
until you get enough!
1432
01:26:43,366 --> 01:26:46,801
And you don't feel enough? /
Will not! Will not.
1433
01:26:46,835 --> 01:26:49,167
Don't stop until you get enough.
1434
01:26:49,619 --> 01:26:51,535
Don't stop until you get enough.
1435
01:26:56,278 --> 01:27:00,538
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