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- Keep driving - Get out of my car!
- Keep driving - No!
- Oh my God, okay - Here I am.
- What?
- Here I am. Keep driving.
- You, you-- - don't say my name
- Uh...
Good.
- back to the road
- Wow. Yes.
Can I ask a few questions?
- No.
- We don't talk about it all this in the car
- Oh, yes, no, no, no the car isn't tapped
That--
excuse me. The car is not tapped.
- You leave it unlocked at the gas station
- Uh... okay
Yes, okay.
But can I-- is it fine if I confirm...
- only types... - You are Abe richek
- Your social security number 988-64-4323
You check in a hotel in Missoula.
You call your girlfriend at 11:17 a.m.
At 12:13
you call a woman who is not your girlfriend
I am the person you are here to meet
Now let's go.
- Ooh.
Yes, yes.
Can you-- Is it permissible--
Do you want to just enter the front seat?
- Will you come back on the road?
- Yeah.
Yes, just come - Join me here.
It's quiet.
- Okay, let's go
- All right, where?
- North.
- Good.
Yes. Right. This way.
This is a method.
This is a method to stop smoking.
Cigarette, does not light up
I just hold it there
and chewing gum at the same time.
- Let me see your phone
- Sure.
You can see what application runs if -
there is a settings button You can go to the right...
Oh my God.
OK, or it works.
What will you do? if it's telephone
that you can't have take the battery from?
- why do you become a journalist?
- serious question?
Oh, uh...
Why...
What makes me become a journalist
Money.
I think of me - I identified and for a long time,
have seen myself as someone who cares much about the truth
You know. And I'm not naive.
I know it's there a lot of moral relativity
and moral ambiguity and uncertainty in the world,
and in the world we create,
but the truth does exist
I think.
Or I try to act like that.
Ugh, that sounds pretentious to me
Well, maybe it's a little majestic...
I think some people come for journalism as storytellers.
People who want to move readers emotionally
And I don't.
I am more interested in the truth,
regardless of how they feel it.
- That's a good answer
- Why did you do what you did?
- You can enter by this silo
We can talk there.
- good
- Let me search for you
- Uh, no
Okay, I'm sorry but no.
You, you have to trust me, good?
I have a professional Code of ethics.
I have a personal code of ethics.
You trust me to make you uneducated,
You have to believe I'm not recording you, okay
- No, I still have to look for you This will be fast.
- Good.
What should I do?
- Spin.
Spread your arms
This is not a small thing, you understand.
- I do
It might be easier to strip me, if you want.
- Be careful what you ask for.
- Can I put my hand down?
- Keep them from my path.
And don't put them in your pocket
- We are both in the same boat
We both have something to lose.
That's it?
- One more thing.
Cover your ears, this will be very hard - What is that? - Close your ears
- What are you doing?
Jesus, damn it!
Oh fuck!
Maybe I shouldn't ask what you are doing now
- aren't you afraid treasure hunter? - No.
You should be someone I can trust
Kelly? How do you know Kelly?
- Frankly I prefer to take this bigger,
No, I prefer to work for those papers but,
You know, here it is
- I will give you thirty minutes.
And that's it.
No follow-up, no phone, no email
OK, so first I need you to acknowledge who you are
You can't be completely anonymous Otherwise, it's a background that is in
and I can't use it
that means we don't get anything, there is no story
- You know who I am
- Uh...
in a very indirect way.
But I want you to direct on some points
If not, I mean, there's no basis.
I can't publish
Good?
- Will we do this? - Yeah.
- good
Uh, Debra?
Right? Debra Bratton?
- Yes. - good
- And you work for?
You can say it.
- I, uh...
His--
- You have to tell me, I can't guess
- You know that.
- It doesn't cut it.
- this is
Understand?
- I think so.
Well, I don't go to write your name,
I will not write right noun
we use here, I will use shorthand.
- Yeah.
- I will save this notebook literally on my person
at all points and then I will destroy it
as soon as I write the story
Does that sound okay?
Great.
So Debra, what is your position?
Information analyst?
- Uh, senior information process engineer
- Good.
Um, and what is common to refer to you
it's also accurate
- What do you mean?
- I mean, like, if I quote mayor's chief of staff,
and he doesn't go For the record I can say
he is "senior city official hall."
Can I see you as a senior analyst?
- Not really.
Senior is in my title but I'm not senior
Not like that. Not as you think.
There is only a difference I'm from all the other ghosts.
Pure code person.
- Do you say "ghost?"
- Like pac-man.
They are ghosts and I'm pac-man
Or in my case Mrs. pac-man.
- Do they call you that?
- Only in the office.
This is not my business card.
- This is good. Can I use it?
- No. Absolutely not.
That's the type My personal details don't want to.
And I prefer not even including my gender
because it's very large instructions for who I am
in an agency that is 80% male.
With the position I shared with maybe twenty other women.
- Yes I understand.
- I don't want this to be about me, at all
Do you know why people like snowden are messed up?
Because they are the story.
Everyone is interested
is snow at that stupid airport
or Manning and hers pesky gender identity
or assange and hers disappear condoms
All people focus on human elements.
I don't want all this to happen about human elements.
- I understand.
I - I guarantee you that I am not interested
in making you famous
You are not my story
If the contents are from what you have,
what you offer is pretty good
If it's strong enough, then you're not important But, please understand, I have to verify that you are
Right? I have to verify who are you
and how do you know what you know.
That I'm not just passing along some kind of rumor
I hear second hand.
- I can see it. That sounds.
- right
I mean, we have to, we have to trust each other, okay
We must be partners.
This only works if we are really tight
- first
- Can I take it?
That's what you can say You didn't give this to me?
- I didn't give it to you.
- Okay, I'll see it as soon as possible tonight
- Abe.
Do you see the car arrive?
It's not here when we get here, right?
- I don't know
No, I don't see it but it's far away.
Maybe only a few farmers.
- I don't like it
Let's go somewhere else.
- Well, hang on.
Look, then someone follows us
then what do they do just sit there
in the open where it is so clear
Fuck.
- Take a left on the bofer,
and then head west, towards pasco
Left.
- Hold. - Do you--
- what are you doing?
- I want to see this mystery car
- No, I told you We need to get out of here.
- If they watch over us, they watch over us
I just want-- I just want to see who it is.
- This is not a fucking game.
- I know that.
- You don't know what you are doing.
- Hah.
- Good, so you have seen you
Let's go.
- I'd like to see it.
Hello!
I don't think that - I don't think anyone is here.
Strange too,
I will give you that Leave the car here...
It might be a farm...
I don't know anything.
What Good.
See? We are ok.
- That's not the point.
- I'm very curious to hear it what's the point
Good, where do you want to go
Do you want to go back to the gas station?
We manage this for months.
You drive all the way out here
You will get scared of this
You will get scared by cars,
just sitting in the field.
- Return and turn left on bofer
Towards pasco.
- good
- You think I'm paranoid
- No, no.
I think it seems like excessive caution,
But I admit that I don't know.
What you know, I don't know everything you know...
Don't be afraid from ghosts, what about that?
- I am Ms. Pac Man, remember?
I can eat ghosts.
- yes!
I don't doubt it for a moment.
This is my left
- They follow us
They just pulled out and turned after us.
- No, it's not the same...
Is that the same car?
- Of course it's the same car. Speed up.
- Uh... sure yes...
You know, I don't want to go...
We don't want to be pulled up
Do you see what they look like?
- No, not in the mirror.
I don't want to turn around.
I don't want them to see my face
At this intersection take left,
and then we take our next right
Chances are they are randomly away like that is...
- Yeah.
- Take care of your eyes on the road.
OK, up there, we will take that
Here.
- They can't be...
There is nothing here.
- Stop here.
Save on drive
- Do you want to start over again?
Well, what about this?
I will tell a story
- do you have to?
- There is nothing to do anything
Just something for me to chat about
and you can ignore it if you want.
How is that sound?
- good - good
- OK, so,
When I was a kid I grew up about an hour west of Chicago
in a small city called dekalb.
City university
Maybe forty, fifty thousand people
My mother is a professor of sociology
and my father works for county
- You don't have a father
- Sorry, uh...
- Is this even a true story?
- Do you have--
this is sort of a personal question
Do you have...
Asperger's
- What's wrong with you?
- What? This is just curiosity.
- you are almost in my good grace
- There is no stigma. Lots -
- just stop.
Stop!
- Very clever-- - stop!
- Okay, so one mother is a professor of sociology
others work for county
Very small city feel.
Many large houses, large yards, lots of trees.
A beautiful classic sitcom setting separated from relatives
trailblazing on part of my parents
So it's one early spring working day,
and I remember that it was a working day
because my parents aren't home,
we go out to the public area
and there is this circle cherry tree thickets,
the garden has been planted the way back by the city father
or anyone
And, so at this point we have twelve, fifteen years
very beautiful adult cherry trees
Pink white flowers, really amazing
You can see it miles and miles and miles.
But today, today, they have changed
And they are evil combination of green-black.
And they are sparkling.
Which is not exactly the right word
Unlike leaves in sparkling winds,
but like the surface of the water, if the water is thick,
like mud
I certainly never did it drugs at that time in my life
but that... It feels like I'm tall.
That is very wrong and basically unnatural.
So we approach, you know,
we want to see what is happening,
and we find that cover these trees,
literally covers every inch of this tree
are these thousands and thousands
green-black caterpillar.
Every tree
And they go to the city.
They are eating the leaves and the trunk
and everything, everything.
And that's only cherry tree, I remember,
for any reason they are not interested
in one of the others.
And...
- Turn here - Yes yes.
So we build closer and only this,
like, dirty and terrible
and amazing scenery and that's cool
But we know that these trees are a big problem
so we go to me friend Todd--
- this is good, let's stop here.
- Do you want to leave?
- No. Let's just sit here for a while.
So what happened?
- Hmm?
- Do you spray it?
- Oh, uh, no
I think there It's not the time for that.
We... Todd's father saw them,
and he panics.
What's cool to see adults share your level
excitement about something
And he ran home
and arrive at land and call another father.
And they both get out there with stairs
and this is big old plastic bucket
And they got there and just started to attract
a lump of caterpillar.
They are tent caterpillars, I found later
And apparently, every few years
there is only this their explosion
So we get people today
and they throw Caterpillar into a bucket.
And we are eight so we try to help as possible.
And whenever this bucket will be almost full,
we will lower it.
And they are heavy.
We will drop them, and there is a ditch nearby,
and we will pour them into the ditch and bring them back.
And after maybe about an hour or more
we have got the best from them from the tree,
except a few dozen stragglers or more.
While this trench is the waist is full of caterpillars.
And one of the fathers Returns to his house
or the garage or whatever.
And he had a can of gas and brought it back.
And they just want to start pouring it in this ditch.
Um, and then I just...
Like, I just ran out there
and grab the bucket
and start grabbing caterpillars.
- Why?
- I don't know.
I don't - of course don't know at that time
I think it's just,
yes know, I think it's terrible
to see them about getting destroyed like that
I think it's really terrible.
And I think I have an idea Maybe I can save some.
I don't know what it is for.
Then, I know something
But the initial impulse It's hard to explain.
They let me stay, like, uh, Fifty or sixty of them
and they...
I have to promise to save it away from the tree.
And, adults, they are supported by all of us children,
way, way, way, back,
and one of them can take gas
and he poured gas the entire ditch,
and another snaps the match onto it
And... it's just big fireballs
And, uh...
- Come on out.
- Here we are again.
- So what happened?
- With what?
- Uh, caterpillar.
- Oh. Is this coming out? half an hour?
- Stay tight. - Good.
- Uh, where am I?
- Uh... fireball
- Yes right! - Pocket full of caterpillars.
- Yes yes yes. So, um...
Have you ever heard routine cosby bills
about saving snowballs for summer?
Oh man. Good.
This is good. You have to check it out.
Anyway, so, uh,
I have this, like, fifty, sixty caterpillars
and I think I will take them home,
they change to cocoon and you know,
in my little science brain,
then I will have a butterfly, right?
A group of butterflies intact to surprise my mother with
I think it will happen a very sweet signal.
They finally split up When I was in college.
And then my mother Cindy died last year
I'm sure you...
- Yes, sorry
- Thank you for saying that
That is what it is.
So, Patrick's father gave me this coffee can
and I put them there, and I brought them home,
and I put them in the basement
where I don't know anyone unless I will ever look for it.
And then I continue every day bring them leaves and water,
and I'm waiting
But I see something rather strange is happening
I started, yeah, with like,
fifty or sixty caterpillars, least
and now at this point, Maybe I have thirty peaks.
So, I can get them out of coffee tin,
I chose some people died,
but that doesn't make sense, math doesn't increase.
And then a few days later
I know what is happening.
Yes you know, start with fifty,
thirty, twenty, ten, then finally three.
Big three, disgusting caterpillars
with his body from all their relatives
and sister in it.
It can be imagined feeling that I have since childhood.
This should be like this a very sweet thing for my mother,
and have become nightmares.
I take them out to concrete,
grabs a big hammer,
and I destroy it as strong as I can.
I have never told that story to anyone.
What?
- What?
- Why would you tell the story?
- I don't know I don't know
I want to tell a story.
I don't like to be quiet, I just started talking.
It came - I didn't--
- jeez, Louise - Good. Good...
What ?!
- It's just that, yeah, uh...
- I assume there are some types of encryption keys
- In 2010 and 2011, you lived with a woman right?
- Yeah.
- You are currently number plate number
and her mother's maiden name, exchanged
But everything is reversed.
So, the last digit of the first plate,
then last from its name.
Then alternately. Make sense?
- Five, nine, I'm
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that right?
- The first letter from the last name cap,
remaining lowercase
The license plate number is all closed.
- Good.
So what do these files contain exactly?
- About two thousand names.
Their last location is known, the previous address,
sometimes profession, KTP number,
telephone, email, ip.
- And what is important about them?
- You go to have to find out
- what is asked this change of heart?
Is this list, or represent?
Something in the news -
- what do you mean, change feelings?
- Shifting values.
I mean, it seems like something is arousing, isn't it?
- No.
- No?
- No, I don't have a change of heart.
- Then why do you do this?
- Because I hold what I do to a high standard
I think cleaning ourselves from what is on the drive
makes us better, stronger.
- And you are not confused Whatever this abuse
The essence of what you do?
- You don't think what I'm doing is very valuable, right?
- I think we shouldn't go into it - No.
- Let's hold on to facts.
- No no. Let's enter it.
This, let's start with this.
This, you device that think gives you privacy,
do you make this
- I understand.
- Are you?
This very complex device
with thousands of right components
assembled by people whose lives are unlucky
works for you
Are you under the impression
that you are fair some people are lucky
And the whole world wants to work with poor eyesight
and hungry stomach and fingers bleed
for you to entertain yourself?
These things don't just happen.
People hold power to make it happen
If you really think you can enjoy
anything close to for your lifestyle:
Your IPads and your fair trade coffee
and your discount ticket, and your press freedom,
without threat great power behind you,
you are delusional
You are a party for this action,
You are involved, and deep down you know that.
I do what I do because someone must.
The world is chaotic and scared
and despair and violence and the only one that exists ever brings any security
and message for that
is careful and cruel the application of power
Enter the car.
Go, go, go, go, go!
OK, go.
- Are they FBI?
- No.
- Oh shit
Fuck.
Damn, damn it.
So if they are not police,
they clearly have my number plate
They will find out who I am
Will they come? disturbing me back home
- What are they? - I don't know
- You think if I think All this will happen
I will come here?
- You know what, I didn't make a mistake.
What am I
What have I done? I met you, we talked.
I told a story about bad luck caterpillars.
Huh right?
- I want you to throw USB drive out the window.
- Okay, wait a moment
- What do you think is happening here
Do you think this is fair? Some rednecks make love to us?
You ask if we break the law,
a better question is whether
there is something valuable in this car
There are two things.
What is on the drive? and what is in my head
You only have one of them
- Yeah.
Yes, okay.
- Wait until there is a turn. I don't want them to see it.
When I tell you, I want you to throw it as hard as possible
Are you ready?
Now!
Thank you.
- Well, that's how it is.
- How is this? doing off road?
- I live in Chicago. I do not know
- If we get a chance I might need to drive.
- Good.
- Damn
We need a bridge.
Is it narrow Is there a narrower one?
- I don't know what you are trying to ask me now
- Forget it, keep it stable.
- I don't know what you are I think I've arrived here.
- Is this rear window open?
- No. What are you doing?
- Does anyone identify you in this bag
- Uh, yes, my item
- Anything sewn into the lining. Anything like that?
- I don't know
Do you-- what do you do?
Whoa, whoa, what is that?
- They will stop for that Continue driving.
Speed up!
And watch the next car You see coming towards us.
As soon as you see it I want You can enter their Lane
and stop immediately.
- Do you want me to run first head to another car?
I want you to block their Lane.
- If I can. I will not hit anyone.
Well, I think I saw it.
- Pull to their Lane.
- Damn
Jesus Christ...
- Please advance!
Let's go!
Save to this side. Let's go, let's go
Good.
Cut like this! This way, ma'am.
Let's go. This way. Come on, come on!
Go. Go. Go.
Ma'am, we have a situation on the road ahead
I want you to step out of your vehicle I need your mother's key
Thank you very much.
- What do we do?
- Forgive me to take you to this
- What to?
- Debra, to what? - Can you not say my name
- Listen, this is my car, good?
If you are in danger like that I can't even say your name
out loud in my car...
Where does it put me?
- I don't mean for all this to happen.
At least for now we are together.
- In what?
- what are we - in this situation.
- That's all You will say it.
- That's all I know.
- who is the person who is following us
- I don't know
- You don't know, or you don't trust me enough to say it?
- Not me.
- I'm sorry.
- Continue.
We can finally go away from them
- Keep driving - Why?
- Say why
- please.
- That's not good enough.
- No.
Leave me your key!
That way you can tell them that I stole your car!
- You will steal my car
- No.
- I need to report a reckless driver, please
Yes, I'm on the east 397.
Is this possible on the road?
Huh?
Yes, I don't know...
I'm sorry.
- Lima.
Lowercase letters a.
Nine.
Small letters I.
Five.
Lowercase c.
Capital r.
R.
Capital u.
Lowercase letters a.
Capital t.
Capital g.
Yes.
My name is Abe Richek.
I am a journalist. I work for...
I work for Chicago Mercury
and you can call my publisher to confirm that
I have not committed a crime.
I have not broken the law.
So you need to charge it with something or let me go
This is blatant -
I haven't done anything yet.
- Tent caterpillar hatches in June
- What?
- Caterpillar tents in the north America hatches in early summer.
Cherry trees flower in March.
- Who are you?
Mesmer?
Sgc?
Ziki?
Allow me to contact my boss.
We can solve this.
- This works.
I'm sorry.
- No! No! Wait!
Dirt. Damn, damn, bad luck, bad luck.
Good.
Alright okay.
Good.
Fuck
Ah, damn it.
Um...
Alright okay.
Oh
Ah!
Fuck.
Alright okay.
Interesting.
You know, I grew up around here.
- really
- On the other side of the river in Hermiston
- Many things change?
- Some things.
My old house is gone
I have this friend, Todd moray.
I remember her father was always out of work and welfare,
But he has done this work,
Where he works here The place is called Saxon shoes.
It is a shoe shop in the city center
where they usually take _ your X-rays
to determine shoe size.
One summer Todd and I are down the creek
beside houses where we live
We found this pair turtle box
One of them is a little lighter than the others
And Todd has that idea we will take these items as pets.
Which means we have to choose our favorite
And I remember Todd looking for it that was bigger, darker,
which we consider men.
And I'm the smaller one, the lighter,
we consider females.
He calls the boxo and I call me boxie.
Later that day we Remove our pocket knife
and carving behind them
He carved an o and I carved an x.
Not even to distinguish them.
I mean, it's easy because of the color of the shell.
This is to tell the universe that they are ours
So we built them, This big cardboard house
that we are full of mulch and clippings of dirt and grass.
And we feed them caterpillars and snails,
and lettuce and carrots.
And when can we we will meet in this public area
among our line of houses
and take them to walk on a leash.
But it's never neatly orderly
because one of them will be direct
and others will walk in circles.
or vice versa.
Towards the end of summer said my parents
I have to get rid of my tortoise.
For those who are not pets, it is a beast.
But I really grew up to like it
I'm sure boxie doesn't do it feel the same about it,
This is a selfish age.
So my parents set deadlines.
I have to get rid of the tortoise the day before school
And I remember I waited Until the last second.
On Labor Day.
There are dark clouds in the sky
and you can feel it decreased pressure
just before the big storm
But my father insisted.
So I took boxie to the river where I found it,
and I let it go
And every time Todd and I want Back there we will look for it
but I never found it.
I think the storm caught it.
Then after the fall summer.
And after falling, of course winter
And boxo, turtle Todd goes to hibernation
But in February we had it was warm, nonsense,
and the temperature rises to around 70
And everyone outside on their shirts,
and suddenly boxo comes out of hibernation
And Todd is out there bring it for a walk,
But then the sun goes away.
Warm spells end and winter again.
So after a few days, he died.
- So that?
- Basically.
Two turtles were found, two dead turtles
Then a few years ago I back there with my little girl
and I showed him the old environment
Introducing him to some of me relatives who still exist
And it's hot, cuz it's summer,
so I lower it to the old river
And he chose dandelion and ran around,
and he said "hey, dad, see there is a turtle.
So, I went there and of course
There was an awkward turtle x written on his back.
As before waiting there for me
Like time just stand still...
- Hmm.
- You never know
- here it is
- thank you
- bring a car
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