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(footsteps stop) (panting girl)
(static)
Girl: Hey! Here!
(stop static)
(girls panting) (chirping crickets)
(twig locked)
(panting girl)
Girl: Please!
(girl grunts)
(feedback)
(static)
(girl's shout)
(click computer mouse)
(playing unpleasant music)
(sirens approach)
♪ ♪
(sirens approach)
Distributor on telephone: 911, what is the address? from your emergency
Officer: Waukesha County, I will move a caller in Big Bend.
It's a dead end right south of Rivera.
Sender: okay Officer: He came a 12 year old woman.
He appears has been stabbed
Sender: What does he look like?
Officer: stabbed. Dispatcher: stabbed?
Officer: Right.
On Saturday, May 31, 2014, at around 09.50 in the morning,
Waukesha Police Department told
by those concerned citizens
that a 12 year old girl stabbed
in the area of Big Bend Road in the city of Waukesha.
Female reporter: The puncture brings a large police presence to the area,
main quest with land and air looking for two other girls
Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser
accused of piercing their friends
and let it die.
Male reporter: Weier and Geyser lure Payton into the forest
Male reporter 2: The police say that's when the Geyser, holds the knife,
told by Weier, "Go ballistic, be crazy."
♪ ♪
Lawyer: And what happened?
Payton said, "Then he started."
Male Reporter 3: Geysers start stabbing 12 years,
When he screamed, 19 times with a five-inch knife.
Sheriff: In a hug, feet, and torso.
Male reporter: One knife wound Passing a large artery
near his heart only one millimeter
♪ ♪
Female reporter 2: Somehow Payton survived.
He crawled out of the forest from the Female reporter 3: A cyclist finds on the sidewalk,
bloodstained and ask for help.
When asked who attacked him, He said, "My friend."
Police say suspects are inspired by the character
on the website is called Creepypasta,
a site filled with with scary stories
Well, the story is they follow
is about characters called Slenderman.
A high fictional boogeyman is displayed on an internet blog.
Slenderman, faceless ghost
many parents tend to never hear.
Female reporter 4: If you don't know who is Slenderman -
well, we don't, but many young people do it.
If you don't know who is Slenderman, you live under a rock.
Who is that?
(static) (boys scream) Run! Running! Running!
God, run! No, run away!
Boy 2: Oh my God! Girl: Oh my God!
male reporter 2: Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser
found walking near interstate
They then told the police they planned to walk
to Slenderman's house.
Female reporter 5: Who is the police saying that? the young suspect claims they want fun
Detective Trussoni: Anissa feels as if she needs to prove it
that Slenderman exists and will be able to do that by killing someone
And Morgan said that his family would be in danger if not.
Prosecutors accuse the girls as adults
If proven guilty of the charge,
every 12 year face
to 65 years in prison
(static)
(Morgan speaks without further ado)
(Detective Casey speaks)
(Morgan talks)
♪ ♪
(Detective Trussoni speaks on video)
(crying)
(Casey speaks without further ado)
(Morgan speaks on video)
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
♪ ♪
Lawyer: Does it seem? for you at any point during your interview with Morgan
that he is sorry about what he has done?
Not at all
Lawyer: Does he cry at all during your interview with him?
There is no emotion from him at all
♪ ♪
Lawyer: Are you, after discussing the incident itself,
chatting with Payton
about how he feels about Morgan and Anissa at this time?
He said that Morgan had to be imprisoned for the rest of his life...
and that Anissa should be going to prison too, but not for long
because he was involved but he didn't stab him.
He just stands there and watches.
♪ ♪
Angie Geyser on video: Hai, Morgan.
(chatter) Angie: Hi, Morgan.
(discordant note)
Angie: Morgan is a surprise.
And I don't know how it feels about it at first...
But I know I love him.
Yay!
Angie: And he changed our lives drastically
and get better.
(babbling)
Angie: Morgan is always weird,
and he always walks for his own drum beat.
Even from-- from a little in...
he doesn't care what people think of him,
which I think is beautiful nature, especially for - for a girl.
Girls are usually so -
so self-conscious and worried about--
about what other people think about them, and Morgan have never been like that.
You know, he just... (sighs)
He always does it Art thing,
and if people don't like it,
good, it's their problem (chuckles)
Kitties and puppies are not wild animals
Angie: No, that's right. They do not. They are pets.
Angie: I have a camera on his face
for a good portion his childhood,
so I think he fell ill it sometimes (imitates meowing)
He really is real miniature baby grand piano for Christmas one year
(playing music, singing) And he will sit there for a long time,
just make up sweet little song
And we tried to capture as many of them as possible as we can in the video,
but usually immediately when he realizes that we pay attention
or record it, he will stop (chuckles)
♪ They will stay lost forever ♪
(crying, sobbing)
One thing about Morgan that always hits us...
as a bit... strangely is that he...
(sighs) He doesn't react like that
that you will expect him to react...
like in a cinema
Like, if something bad happens for the main character, he...
he doesn't want to have empathy for them
♪ ♪ Bambi, come here
Seeing.
New spring grass
Angie: I remember watching "Bambi" with him for the first time
We are very worried to watch with him,
because we thought he would be very angry when - when the mother died
♪ ♪ Bambi, hurry up! Shrub
(gunshots)
Faster Faster, Bambi!
Don't look back! Keep running! Keep running!
(gunshots)
But the mother died, and Morgan just said,
"Run Bambi, run! Get out of there, Save yourself!"
(laughs) You know? And he is not sad about it.
♪ ♪ (panting) We succeed!
We succeed, Mother!
We...
Mother!
And I can think of... (sniffles)
many other examples along that line
where he hasn't reacted on the way
we will expect a little girl reacts.
♪ ♪ (static)
Angie: We are aware that Morgan is interested in Slenderman.
(distorted scream) (static)
He will show us some characters and some stories.
While I'm not happy about his interests,
I don't really see Damage too.
We never thought for a moment he...
He might be able to believe is real.
When am I Age Morgan, I--
I remember cycling from the library with Stephen King "It."
You know, so I like that kind of thing when I am his age,
and I think most kids are like scary stories and horror films and...
scary stories on the Internet, you know So, that's all we are -
that's all we think that.
I can't imagine it...
I can't imagine him coming with the plan itself.
♪ My bonnie... ♪
♪ My bonnie is lying over the ocean ♪
♪ My bonnie is located above the sea ♪
♪ My bonnie is lying over the ocean ♪
♪ So bring back my bonnie to me ♪
(birds singing)
♪ Bring it back, bring it back ♪
♪ Oh, bring me back bonnie to me ♪
♪ Bring it back! ♪
♪ Bring it back ♪ ♪ Back ♪
♪ Oh, bring it back my bonnie to me ♪ ♪ Bonnie... I'm ♪
(mouse click)
Bill Weier: He lost his teeth, so a tooth fairy gave him a dollar The tooth.
I told him - I like, "one dollar?"
I said, "I only have a place to live from a tooth fairy."
(chuckles) He is happy.
Tooth Fairy gives him one dollar
(mouse click)
This is the last video I have already.
This is the end of his life the sixth year for school.
Chorus: ♪ Hush, hush, someone calls my name ♪
♪ HUSH! Someone call my name ♪
♪ Hush, hush, someone calls my name ♪
♪ My Lord, oh my Lord, what should I do? ♪
(Bill sighs)
Yes, this belongs to Anissa the bedroom is very pink
At that time that we painted this, pink is the thing.
(snoring)
Anissa is the person. Tiger is Anissa's cat.
After Anissa goes...
he will come here and he will spend a lot of time
just walk around, nosing around,
looking for Anissa
You know, nobody uses...
His bed while he is gone.
I don't know, Maybe it's a cat, but...
I think it makes more sense to separate everything
and wash it and when he comes home,
everything is clean and ready to go.
This is only a matter of when.
He will come here to practice choir.
He worked on the project that he had to face FaceTime
with two or three different children from this flight academy class he entered
Because I enter regularly.
I only know, "What are you doing?"
I see faces on the iPad. "Okay, who are you talking to?"
You know, "what are you doing?"
And then you know, almost every day...
You know, 7:30, "Anissa, you're done with your iPad.
Turn it off, down, With your family."
And he never denied.
People ask me whether I see signs on my daughter and this and that.
And I'm like, "No. I know what he does here
Because when he doesn't do it practice choir, The door is open."
You know, all kids -
not only Anissa, they are all-- they know...
There are no closed doors in this house unless you...
fresh from the bathroom or get ready to sleep.
I see...
for people to say...
I'm not involved...
Besides sitting in a corner and watching every movement he makes,
I don't know how many are more involved I can already
♪ ♪
My focus is Anissa...
not Slenderman.
♪ ♪
(click camera) (chain clink)
Forensic men in the video: And what's your name?
Anissa Weier. Anissa, okay
(click camera)
Okay, just type...
give me a look See me
♪ ♪
(whispered man) Morgan.
How are you? Morgan: Good.
Humans: Come on up
(forensic men speak in videos)
(Morgan speaks) Morgan, alright.
(people whisper)
(Morgan speaks on video)
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
(Casey speaks)
(Anissa speaks)
(Trussoni speaks)
Hmm.
Good.
Bailiff: Everything goes up, please
Judge Bohren: I thank you. Please, sit.
The court will call this problem, The state of Wisconsin versus Morgan E. Geysers
and also the country versus Anissa E. Weier.
Good morning. The case is here today on several things.
First thing I will address is a problem from... competence.
(Trussoni speaks on video)
(Anissa speaks) They are happy-- they--
(crying)
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
(Morgan speaks on video) (Casey speaks)
Morgan on video: Uhh...
(no-nonsense)
(Trussoni speaks)
(crying) I see... ♪ ♪
(no clear dialogue)
There are stays the previous night
for Morgan's 12th birthday.
We know that is Anissa, Morgan,
and third girl that we have never met...
and that they are all at Morgan's house
Angie: Morgan and Anissa have only know each other
since they start sixth grade.
They meet because of them - They take the same bus.
♪ ♪
We are very happy Morgan has made good friends
So - so close, other people in the environment.
(sniffles) Us-- We are very happy for him...
to have someone play with.
♪ ♪
(Trussoni speaks in video)
(sniffles)
Uh huh. Good.
My name is Bella, and I am nominated
to do Ice Bucket Challenge for ALS by...
Morgan and Bella have known each other since kindergarten,
and they are good friends since fourth grade.
Humans: Are you ready? I think.
Man: let's go One two three.
(woman moans)
(screams) Oh my God!
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
Umm...
(crying)
Good.
♪ ♪
(Anissa speaks in video)
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
(Trussoni speaks in video)
Anissa: Umm...
♪ ♪
(clears throat)
♪ ♪
(Anissa speaks)
(Morgan speaks without further ado)
(sniffles)
♪ ♪
(Skype startup noise)
(ringing)
Irene: Hello, Dr. Zipes!
I - I don't have - I - uh, wait
(click) Hello?
Actually the quality seems fine at the end of me.
And yes, my Skype doesn't have it today
You - have we started now?
Irene: Yes yes. When - when do we start?
Man: Hello Hello.
Humans: How are you? Good.
Humans: Who are you Skyping with?
Someone - I started interviewed for a documentary film
Alright then-- what - so let's start - start with that question.
♪ ♪
Trevor Blank: Slenderman is a modern-day boogeyman.
Because it's faceless, because it's quiet,
because it doesn't speak words,
it's open to many interpretations
and open for many possibilities and for many projections.
This varies from person to person
like what actually Slenderman.
♪ ♪
He is the creature who lives in my closet.
He is the person in a white windowless van.
faceless strangers who kidnapped children
This summarizes, symbolically,
many others sort of fear of society
that we already have for age and age
and rather comfortable wrap them
and make it very easy to forge.
Because, really, Slenderman can be anyone You want it.
(mouse click)
♪ ♪
(keyboard clacking)
(mouse click)
Empty: We can see empirically
and find out where Slenderman was created.
It was created in 2009 by Eric Knudsen
below the screen name "Victor Surge"
as part of Photoshop contests
to try to create something
it looks real it really isn't.
Brad Kim: Urban legend on the Internet has been something for decades.
♪ ♪
There is already a basic audience
it's ready for a global project
to build myths.
It actually starts with the game
which rotates from Slenderman
♪ ♪
It's very heavy visually oriented
it can be imitated without actually having
to understand too many cultural contexts
(footsteps) (chirping crickets)
Kim: And from there,
it spreads to every available platform
and media on the web.
Tumblr...
DeviantArt...
Youtube...
and also 4chan's Paranormal Board.
All of these sites have
very strong affinity with fan art in general.
(mouse click) (humans breathe heavily, speak German)
(speaking German)
"Slim will come"?
(speaking German)
Kim: YouTube is international hub
for non-English speakers
to kind of break their way into the myth
(man speaks Spanish)
(man 2 speaks Spanish)
(2 men breathe hard)
(speaking Spanish)
(Kike speaks)
(grunt) (distortion)
(retches) (mouse click)
♪ ♪
Kim: Creepypasta is this generic term
for the horror story that will be copied
then inserted because it's good.
As it spreads, people start fiddling
some parts of the story or take where they leave
This is a branching story from the main canon from Slenderman (mouse click)
(playing piano)
Women: "Oh, I'd better travel through the forest,
" Or shouldn't hope I'll
"For above I lurk inside the trees
" No one can hear it My cry is deadly
"The paleest person, the blackest setting
" bigger than the rudest
"Six black arms will catch you
" Or follow you until you just give up
"He will leave your body not eat
But for the most part Your body is on a tree."
(static)
"Afraid of that person, thin guy
For what he can do does no one can.
♪ ♪
Empty: Good slenderman represents an opportunity
to see where people are nervous
about certain things and what excites them
and what unites them, because it changes.
This changes according to who tells the story?
♪ ♪
Often in the world of adults
we forget how much It sucks to be children.
Slenderman can also be seen as a guardian angel.
Slenderman is angel of death
but with heart
These images aren't so many he appears
in the playground to seize children, but to save them.
Stories like this can be
a strong aphrodisiac for -
for someone who is lonely or problematic,
or are trying to find their way in the world ♪ ♪
Slenderman has this entire community people online
who are eating into the narration
and create their own version of .
This continues - it grows exponentially.
♪ ♪
Richard Dawkins: That is the definition a good meme
In human culture,
if copied From one brain to another,
it's meme
Hi, my name is Valerie,
and I have decided to do it Ice Bucket Challenge.
I'm working on the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge.
I'm here to join People bring attention to Lou Gehrig's disease.
Dawkins: Can be an idea.
This can be a song. Can be a dance style.
Woman: tired? A cameraman: What do you think he is doing?
Board. Camera cameraman: Oh, you know?
Women: Of course. Cameraman: yes!
Woman: I am from the internet (man laughs)
Dawkins: Internet provides
very, very fast, efficient, universal,
media around the world so that memes spread.
It will never be caught.
(anchor laughs) Without doubt.
Dawkins: Maybe there some spreading memes
like a very fast epidemic and then die.
But others may have strong perseverance
(hum)
People are captivated by Slenderman
and want to convey a picture or to modify the image of himself.
(distortion, static)
This horrible story of two girls who think
that's all their job for Slenderman to go and kill someone
Well, that's how I call strength.
That is a very big power, very terrible power
(static)
(click)
Jack Zipes: Unconsciously, Slenderman Rod
from the tradition-- that is the way, the way back
For the most part, Brothers Grimm collect related stories
with what I call universal human struggle
we continue to have today
I think that's one of the reasons
why people respond to this story,
and they say it their own version,
their own horror story
about what is happening in the world today Slenderman is a story about a character,
Strange strange characters, that might feed children.
That makes me think of a legend
Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm gathered
called "The Pied Piper from Hamelin."
Years ago a city was destroyed by mice -
in the ditch... on the road...
in the basement
Pied Piper comes out of nowhere.
And he is very strange, people who look weird,
But he has flutes
or some type of pipe that he plays
The man said, "If you want me to get rid of it From mice, you have to pay me."
So they say, "Yes, as much as you want
if you can get rid of from mice."
Piper starts blowing pipes.
Mice start to follow.
♪ ♪
Piper has all the rats jump into the river
But mayor and board member cheat him
And Piper said, "You know,
" there are other songs I can pipe
"and that way I can reply you
in that way You will never forget."
♪ ♪
So Piper takes it his cheek to his lips again
and he starts piping. (children playing)
People freeze, but children follow it
There is an opening,
a sudden opening on Mount.
And all children go to towards this opening.
And like the last one entered,
mount closed,
and Piper enter too.
(boom)
Depending on the time and the people there tell their version
from "The Pied Piper,"
he can be many different things.
(shrink) (stomps)
(polka music game)
(playing live music)
(hypnotic music game)
So he is a very mysterious figure
We don't know whether he is bad or good
We don't know whether he will do anything for these children
Children never return.
No one has ever heard of them.
(playing unpleasant music)
But Pied Piper lives on
♪ ♪
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
Umm...
(driving a car)
(Angie sighs)
It's almost like he lives as a whole doesn't know life in his head
that we only-- we just don't know.
Difficult with children because...
they don't have to know how to differentiate
between fantasy and reality to start.
So, it's just hard to know...
where - where to draw the line
Where it becomes...
abnormal?
So, though, you know,
Look back, There may be some signs.
Everything is in retrospect.
It's been two months to days on calendar
he is like that in Washington County Youth Detention Center.
The first day feels rough.
You know, you go in there...
You must learn all your check-in procedures and all.
You know, you go back there, and you don't know what is expected There are you, there is a glass panel with a metal rod behind it,
then... is our daughter
That's how it works.
(Trussoni speaks)
(Anissa speaks)
(mouse click)
(click the mouse wheel)
(click) (clatters)
(keyboard clacks)
(mouse click)
♪ ♪ This is the first time we tried this
We have him something. He doesn't know yet.
These are small mice. You can see it there.
Are you ready? It's a circle of life, okay?
Right, Cole? Yes.
That's "Lion King." (Laughter) Yes.
Woman: Let's see how he reacts.
The same color as - like a bathtub.
Listen, honey Look, honey, look.
See if he pays attention.
(mouse click)
(heavy metal music playing)
(music stops) Man: my voice will bring you
for a very calm and peaceful place.
♪ ♪ (distortion, static)
Humans: So this part,
attacks _ there is soft tissue in the body -
eyes, cheeks,
cut through the blood
and air vessels enter the throat,
get it in and out, enter and exit, enter and exit.
Children: Meow meow meow!
Humans: So with the first, why do you think
pigs faint when is the kitten placed on it?
(click mouse) Woman: He plays with it.
♪ The dog goes well, the cat goes meow, the bird goes - ♪
Ah! Why you paste baby
Blender foot first?
(demon sound) So you can see that expression on the face
(crazy laughter)
(mouse click) (helicopter rotates)
(keyboard clacks)
(mouse click) (playing music)
Shh. (pound)
(inhaling)
I don't know if I should say it, "I hope you enjoy it,"
But there is a circle life for you
Talk to you later. Thank you for watching.
♪ ♪
(mouse click)
♪ ♪
(water dripping)
Kristi: Since he got the iPad,
he likes to spend a lot of personal time up in his room and...
he watches a lot from things...
funny to him
Nothing dirty,
or sad, and demeaning emotions...
He likes-- The iPad only gives him a way
not from TripAdvisor. to socialize with family.
And I really...
deplores iPad
Anissa shows me an image once
He is in his room,
and I went to see what he did, and I saw.
That is an picture of this Slenderman character
and Jack Skellington.
♪ ♪
At that time, There seems to be nothing inherently dangerous
I don't have foster children which I will need for further research.
IPads will move
to elementary school level this year.
So, at least, _ our fifth grade boys go to go home with one.
Alone.
Tom Haynes: So this is the yearbook of the fifth year of Anissa.
(chuckles) And this is what Anissa wrote.
It says, "You are indeed like that second father to me."
So it's really sweet.
This is rather difficult Looking back,
Because if he feels strong, you know, just...
Maybe I can do it something else
Anissa really one of the biggest outliers I've been
just because he has there is no solid connection
with others Grades 4 and 5.
Anissa will definitely cry every few weeks, I want to say it.
Mostly about... children Means he is in school.
He doesn't want to be able to hold himself in front of the whole class,
and sometimes he will only cry
So other children realize he...
emotion, and become upset.
And there are times when he will enter from lunch / break
and cry have no friends
I already suspected that Anissa made a relationship with Morgan and happy that they are both to Slenderman,
glad that he made new friends,
share connections, shared interests,
and may have rotated out of control from there
(classic score playing)
(no clear dialogue)
(click mouse) (keyboard clacks)
♪ ♪
Abigail Baird: You can't set it up a better system fails
In the case "No in school likes you,
" but this is it open monster
Who will hug you?
Worst time socially isolated
is where your brain and body beg for friendship,
for kinship, which is adolescence.
This is the most difficult time to be alone
I think in its absence social contact,
Internet can sometimes serve
as a partner on the road, or peer group.
The two girls in a close group from eight friends,
I don't think this will happen,
because they don't want just talking to each other
and they don't want have been very dependent
on information from the internet.
(engine starts)
Kristi: Bill and I split in the summer of 2012
That is my decision. I am asking for a divorce.
But when the situation gets very bad,
he is willing to be silent be there and so on
(turn click)
He is not allowed to see his brother or daughter.
He is not permitted to see aunt or uncle, or cousin or whatever,
so I want to have like many people
as he can as often as possible.
I try to take it mentally out of the environment
and try to bring it some sunshine in his time.
But when I leave, I kind of feel...
I feel happy that I can see it
and... make him smile for a few minutes a day.
But on the other hand, I'm still a little sad
that I go without my daughter, and...
The return trip is sometimes it breaks the heart...
but I know that I will come
and see it in a few days anyways,
and I will only repeat performance and--
(sniffles) and hopefully someday, this might be my last trip
and and...
Then he will go home forever
But maybe so for a moment.
(playing music ringtones)
Computer: you have prepaid calls from... Anissa: Anissa...
Computer: An inmate in... Humans: Washington County Prison.
Computer: This call will be recorded
and subject to monitor at any time.
You might start talking now.
(Anissa speaks)
Hello, Anissa. So what is your day?
Yes?
Determine "good enough."
Do you know who is sitting here
Yes, Tyler is sitting here. Tyler: Hi!
(Bill laughs) How are you?
I have...
pretty good even though it's already cold
Hi, Ani!
(laugh)
What's wrong?
Anissa! Anissa.
We can all know You are spinning a little.
Are you excited to talk to everyone?
Yes?
Hey hey hey! Anissa! (laughter)
Play back a little.
So, besides what you have said,
what's with you?
Good.
Anissa: yes Don't smile too much.
Computer: One minute left.
Well, we have one minute,
so you good night
I love you too.
OK? And I will see you tomorrow.
So - okay. Computer: thank you for using the IC solution.
Goodbye. And that's how it is.
♪ ♪
(Meow tiger)
♪ ♪
(mumbling)
(chain clink)
(click camera)
Maggie: I don't know where
all things Slenderman...
starts because Anissa never talked about it things like that
No one has ever spoken about Slenderman
Unless he, like, keeps surfing the internet,
he never really showed me anything bad...
or something scary
He - he Easily scared.
(coughing woman) (click camera)
Maybe he did it because he wanted to be noticed
Because, honestly, at his school
I don't know that he doesn't have many friends
He told me that he had many friends, Many people like him,
and a group of-- and he is accepted,
and he experiences The right time at school
But... he continues to be picked,
and he never really fits. He is a follower.
Confiscator: Everything goes up
Bohren: Okay thanks. Please, sit.
Maggie: I think some children just...
great believers
They can't not believe everything they hear
(rustling)
Officers: do you swear frankly, the real thing,
and nothing but the truth, so please help God
Yes, I did. Lawyer: In this case
Are you assigned to interview the victim, Payton Leutner?
Yes I am.
Lawyer: At a certain point, your discussion goes into that area
from birthday party planned for Morgan?
Payton says that Birthday party
has been planned for several weeks,
and that is for May 30,
and that they have planned to go Skateland
and sleep at Morgan's house Angie: They are medium normal little girl
They run up and down stairs,
holding hands and giggling.
Nothing...
any indication is - go
or that we have something to--
to worry about
After Skateland, They returned to Morgan's house and they go to the basement
(talking without further ado)
And we - we wake up in the morning,
and we have donuts and strawberries for breakfast,
and everything is very normal
The girls laugh and...
have fun.
And they ask if they can go to the park,
and I don't think anything
I said, "Yes, of course you can go to the park."
And you know, Morgan said goodbye
and tell me he loves me
♪ ♪ (breathing trembling)
(Trussoni speaks)
(Anissa speaks)
(Trussoni speaks)
(Anissa speaks)
After playing at the playground equipment for a while,
they go to the bathroom, three.
(Casey speaks in video)
(Morgan speaks)
(Casey speaks)
(Anissa speaks in video)
♪ ♪
He doesn't want to go to sleep,
so he doesn't sit there with his eyes closed,
and at some point, Anissa hits the front from his head
and cause the back from his head to...
hit the wall
Basically.
(Anissa speaks)
And Morgan said, "I think we approve it You will do this."
Lawyer: Does Payton tell you anything
What is Payton thinking about?
I don't think he understands what is happening.
(Anissa speaks in video)
(Trussoni speaks in video)
(pulling ribbon)
(panting) Thank you!
Boy: Hey, that's what I want. Ooh.
(panting) Angie: It's very fancy touch one screen.
I want that one. It's filled...
and already have some books for you
Wow. (boy muttering)
Can we combine it?
Mm-hmm. What do you think? Pretty cool Yes?
Angie: I've been chatting with Morgan -
birds and bees conversation.
I explain changes that you go through puberty,
and I explain about getting your menstruation
And I'm done, and he looks at me, and he goes,
"Mama, I don't think I believe you."
(laugh) "That doesn't really happen."
(click camera, beep)
(Mumble Angie) Morgan: Thank you!
(Angie chuckles) You're welcome!
(click camera, beep)
Angie: Morgan does believe in Santa,
Tooth fairy, and Easter Bunny,
and really believe in Santa until he is 11 years old.
(chuckles) And I think I'm just thinking,
"What parents? tell their children that Santa isn't real?
Who is in a hurry? for their child to grow up?"
♪ ♪
Tyler: There are many strange things
In the world that we can't explain it.
So we only make items to try to explain it.
To trust something -
I don't know, Loch Ness Monster
or boogeyman-- no... that's difficult
to believe that people actually believe it.
♪ ♪
You can't say for sure is real or not.
And I believe that they believe
it's real.
♪ ♪
Jacqueline Woolley: What's wrong with certain types? storybook
which makes children more or tends not to believe that they are real?
What is the aspect of the internet that affects
Are children thinking about things on it real or not real?
I think the concept of what is actually always is quite messy
Technology is creating this new situation
where it becomes even messy
♪ ♪
These two girls, Maybe they are both strong believers,
but then the fact is that they are both with
is creating which is stronger context for trust
That's how Santa Claus works or is considered working.
Sort of like "Trust Club."
There is this great fear that if I stop believing I will not get the prize.
(static)
What are the benefits? being a believer?
Feeling like you are special, You are part of something,
that you can be part only by believing.
That's much easier than many other clubs,
you know, especially at that age.
But all you need to do for the Slenderman club just believe
♪ ♪
Blank: If there is one thing cult from Slenderman is about,
This is about making that all can be trusted,
especially with the rest cannot be verified
And that's really what kind of people's trust works
Because you can't prove it beyond the shadow of doubt
it's Slenderman fake or real (mouse click)
Boy: Hey, friend, this is Shane.
So, since I knew about Slenderman,
he has haunted my dream, like every dream.
And I'm really scared,
so I will show you an image--
I - I will only show you some pictures that I got from him.
It exists. Look at this.
Look there in the background.
There. Boy: Look, this is Slenderman.
Shane: That's me - it's my sister when she was young
And then we found it in the background.
Oh, this is very scary. Um, goodbye.
(click the mouse) (singing birds)
Cartwheel.
(boys clean the throat) Round.
Boy: Oh my God, my stomach killed me Back walkover
Bad back Remover
Boy 2: Mine - ugh. Me, too.
Return walkover
(boy burps) Oh my God.
Rounding up. Boy: Sam, we need to do it - Sam, we need to do this later.
Can you go a little longer?
Boy: No, we will stop this and then we will...
and then we will do one more later,
Because of st - Oh my God, I feel like I almost vomited now
OK, hurry up and do one more.
Boy: What the fuck God! Running! Running!
God, run! No, run away!
(shouting)
Hope: When you know about him, he knows about you
(girl whining) Boy: Oh my God, I'm very scared now.
Hope: Like it is impossible to call it,
but it's impossible to get him, like, stop follow you around
(click the mouse)
I remember when I was like 13,
one of my birthday parties, We have this big plan
I and three of my friends will all gather,
we will bring our camera
and sneak out into the forest
and try to find it with our camera
And I'm out there for like two hours.
If I meet him...
I will explain myself and be like,
"I don't think you're as bad as that
" Personally, I think you're rather cool
I don't mind doing what you do. "
♪ ♪
Since I have There is no social life at that time,
basically my whole life is on the Internet
And since then it's been there, like, 24/7... I will only gradually be more and more attached to it.
And the problem that keeps coming will be Slenderman
At that time I believed, Like every fiber in my body, he is real
♪ ♪
(footsteps)
(mouse click)
Well, and the game have started.
(Twitter cricket)
(playing unpleasant music)
Dawkins: If everyone knows namely Slenderman,
then I think is enough to define it as a replicator.
(rustling paper)
Genetic viruses spread from the body to the body.
And so... the meme has great deployment capabilities...
worthy to be called mind virus
Girl: Ooh! A note. Girl 2: No!
No, I don't want to get it. No, you have to get it.
You must get it. You must. You understand. Then he will come.
Getting. Good.
Keep going. Keep walking. Why?
Because he found you!
Dawkins: The virus from the mind spreads
by being heard or seen by the sensory organs.
♪ ♪ (footsteps)
When one brain picks it up,
it will have a tendency to spread it to other brain
and other brains and so on, so that it will spread exponentially.
(music sting) (girl screaming, laughing)
(crying)
(footsteps)
Dawkins: And that's an empirical fact that this happened
The Slenderman Case is a very strong example
from peer-to-peer horizontal transmission That really happened.
(music sting)
(static)
(jingling key)
Bill: Meow, meow, kitty.
(meows) That's right, come here.
Do you sleep as usual? Yes, you.
(meows) (imitating meow)
Stand up straight.
I think you should use your badge from Webelos Camp...
because there are only two people in your entire package who have the badge
Aiden: okay Bill: Alright. Are all your pins safe?
Aiden: yes Bill: you don't want to lose them Right?
Aiden: yes Life is good.
You are all ready, All right?
Aiden: okay Get ready to put it away All right?
Good. Bill: I don't want to get sad about,
"Oh, I just got it to finish this level," or whatever else
OK?
(mumbling) Aiden?
Yes.
Yay?
Are you okay, Aiden? Aiden: yes
You sound little sniffley
The whole event, from beginning to end, has become a tragedy.
But you have to be angry in the situation.
I'm angry at the situation...
and my daughter are not the ones...
that spends up to seven days
in the hospital recover from this
And I'm angry about the situation
So, if I'm angry about that...
You know, this other family It's true to be angry about it
You know, they can...
You know, slamming doors on my face, or, you know,
punch my face and knock my ass and you know...
they might be justified.
I'm sure they have lots of from the same question I did
Lawyer 2: did you come for conclusions about Anissa, as far as diagnosis?
Predisposition characteristics that...
makes it vulnerable for delusional interference...
is what is meant by as a schizotypy.
This is a reduced ability to determine
what is real and what is not real
Many people have These various levels.
Adults may have, simple, religious eccentric or spiritual beliefs
or... conspiracy beliefs or things like that
and live their lives without problems at all
I have finished little from research
in the early stages psychopathic personality
in adolescents for the past 20 years
Lawyer 2: Based on your experience and testing Anissa,
he doesn't carry that's a certain diagnosis
No. He doesn't have--
he really, there is no characteristic a psychopath
or sociopathic or something like that. Lawyer 2: Alright.
♪ ♪
Fishermen: Morgan and Anissa out from the bathroom
Said Payton that he doesn't want to play hide and seek,
but Morgan said the next game
they play It could be the choice.
♪ ♪
Payton says that...
Anissa draws deeper and deeper into the forest.
(Casey speaks in video)
Then...
Anissa said, "Now!"
And Anissa replied.
Morgan goes up from Payton's feet.
He sits at his feet, and then he gets his face really close to Payton
and whisper in his ear, "I'm sorry."
♪ ♪
And then start stabbing it.
Lawyer: What, finally, is Morgan diagnosed?
The last diagnosis, is good in the psychological report
and in my report is schizophrenia,
not specified, 295.90...
opposition distorted disturbances, 313.81...
and bronchial asthma, mild, intermittent, J45.2.
♪ ♪
Lawyer: Is that schizophrenia?
Casimir: Schizophrenia is the most serious one and one of the most studied
mental illness humans.
About 1% of the population succumbs to schizophrenia This is a psychotic disease.
This is through a combination of genetic predisposition
and then stress is placed on that person
starting realizing the symptoms
♪ ♪
Patients lose track of reality in several ways.
A person will become hallucinations.
Someone can hear sounds, people can see vision,
People can feel it things crawl on them.
Delusions, in addition,
no need to do by feeling something,
they have to do it with a thought
So, for example, believes that Slenderman is real is fantasy.
Saying that you see Slenderman is visual hallucinations.
(rustling leaves) (Robert Niesen laughs)
What is the stack? the greater it is?
Ha! (laugh)
Diana Niesen: Jumps on leaves.
Robert: And that's one from my favorite
I scoop up a bunch of leaves in the backyard and...
he comes flying in (laughs) Diana: Nice action shot.
Diana: Yes, it's difficult for us to imagine
he experiences problems
Difficult to process.
None of us... see this coming
Angie: Morgan remembers it
hallucinations as early as three.
He remembers...
Seeing ghosts at night, as young as three,
it will bite it and pull the hair.
But from what I understand,
most of them are also friendly
He even said that he - he tried to tell us about it once,
and we just told him to go back to sleep,
but I don't have every memory of that.
And really, how often are your children
say at the time before that they see something
or hear something when they are that age?
"The monster is in my closet," or "there is something under my bed,"
You know, just because they don't want to sleep.
It's difficult because I can't yet
to discuss this with Morgan,
because he has been imprisoned...
for all the time that I've already - I already know...
that he - he has These symptoms.
Brooke Lundbohm: He expresses his ability to see and hear something
that other people are can't hear or see.
Things like Unicorns.
He is at one point distorted
becomes a pretty exciting discussion
about a student in his class being pegasus
When I saw it last week, a few days before,
Snape came to visit him and held him back
until 3:00 a.m., according to Morgan's report Lawyer: Snape? Snape
Lawyer: Who is that? "Harry Potter" characters.
He will also say not only that he hears a lot of things,
But since then as early as three,
he has some sensory-perceptual distortion.
He might see someone replace a little or see color.
He doesn't... has a lot of attention
about whether he gets a long prison sentence,
because, wherever he is, he will use Vulcan
mind control to make himself feel, to make himself believe whatever he likes
So, even below very stressful situation,
he doesn't feel stressful because of this -
what he explained to be Vulcan's mind control.
Lawyer 2: What about him - the cell?
I will consider irregular cells.
He has paper scattered about the floor Lawyer 2: Have you ever suggested pick it up
Officer Simon: Yes, already. And he stated that he liked the newspaper there
because they make it feel less empty
Lawyer 2: And is he in the room alone? Officer Simon: Right
He said, "Seeing my friends,
" None of these are dangerous
These friends cannot be lost. That is important to me. "
Lawyer: Does he refer to the real world fictional friends or friends?
Fiction, I believe.
Lawyer 2: He is not permitted hug his family or touch him?
Not at our facility. Lawyer 2: Right
He explains that his main concern
is with the relationship with Slenderman,
and he feels like if he says the wrong thing,
if he somehow disturbs Slenderman,
Not only his property but his family life can be in danger
With childhood schizophrenia,
almost everyone develops, finally,
negative symptoms and cognitive symptoms.
What is unique about Morgan's situation
is a bad road very easy to guess
Well, we know the diagnosis before we go see them at the hospital.
We hold a conference call with two doctors,
so we-- we are ready
And that reason we all go there, actually,
so we can tell Morgan
what is the diagnosis
And we think that will be very helpful so he knows
that his father too...
have the same mental illness,
because we have never told him before that Matt had schizophrenia.
We are very worried about that way he might react
to learn that she has schizophrenia
because of Morgan - Morgan is a very smart girl,
and he has read... Matt: What makes me think he knows
Yes. I thought when they told him, he might be like...
No wonder ... "Well, that's it I can already guess...
if I have to diagnose myself."
Angie: What I think Morgan knows
that other people don't see hallucinations,
but still is very real for him
Like, on his head they are real,
and they there with him
They are there. Angie: But I think he knows
it's someone else don't look at them
If not, why did he try to...
Cover it Mm-hmm. Angie: ... hide them from us, exactly.
This is because he doesn't want to lose them
He is afraid they will do it taken from him
Angie: This is a doll house,
or its components for dollhouses,
which Morgan made for while he was placed
in Washington County Youth Detention Center.
And he just put so much...
details into it, it's amazing.
He is not permitted to have scissors,
to be all of this -
all of this small little pieces he is torn by hand
This is television, and this is
some of him a little cartoon character that he likes to draw.
This is actually, I think, is a character
it was modeled after Spock.
When I watch him do some dolls
and - and clothes,
and he said what was shocking _ how was it several times he had to start over.
Like, he could just be careful about-- These are some foods.
I think this is a salad and a slice of pizza. Salad and a piece of pizza.
It's a little laptop computer.
See there are even details on the
screen Look at the cute little heart on the front of the computer.
This looks like it's another TV
Oh, and there - how exactly
There is a drama in the courtroom playing in the background
When I ask him what he wants to watch on TV that night -
it's one thing I usually ask when I talk to him on the phone -
he will say that it depends in turn who decides.
And he is in his own cell,
so he is the only person there.
♪ ♪
I do a lot of things with running numbers in my head
I do...
I try to install static, Almost, how do I describe it.
I hope I can talk to him about--
like, I have - now, There are patterns like that
light and geometric shapes
That, like, always racing.
As usual, like now
Pshew, pshew, pshew, pshew, pshew, pshew.
I always want to know if he sees the item too
Everything seems normal For me, because of that - it's everything I am
Here's how I always see something.
So, it doesn't seem strange For me it's like,
"Oh, that's not how you see street lights?"
or "Oh, that's weird."
I don't know if it is all those who like strange little visual...
things happen...
like a flashy demon, Devil.
Like that you are like, "Okay, this is clear is not real."
But that doesn't matter. Like where I've been...
like you...
You can see it and you know it's not real...
but not a problem at all, because you still are afraid of that
Like, I know that there is...
I know Satan is not in the back seat,
but the demon in the back seat Do you know?
Yes, sometimes you know it's not real,
but still smells, it feels, and looks real, so it's real.
♪ ♪
Lawyer: Can you explain, in general,
What did you find in the bedroom when did you pass it?
There are... lots... notebooks
and pieces of paper with images
and writings related to to the Slenderman character.
♪ ♪
Lawyer: Where are all these items?
Everything is in Morgan's room.
Collins: When you ask Morgan...
"What if Slenderman? isn't there?"
He can't tolerate that.
He becomes rather contradictory,
and say he knows it's true,
and can't proven to be incorrect, so it's true
Lawyer: Does Morgan use those words?
"That must be done?" Yes.
Lawyer: do you tell him to say that I don't.
Lawyer: He volunteered this for you Right.
(scratch pen)
Lawyer: Looks like unusual thing to say
That Lawyer: Did you ask him? What do you mean by that?
I do it. Lawyer: And indeed to ask him many times?
I do it.
Lawyer: Okay, after you ask him several times
what does that mean by "That must be done,"
what he offers you or what he says
He told me that the man ordered it.
(lawyers speak)
Grunke: Yes I did.
(lawyers speak)
He raised three fingers.
Lawyer: Like three? Three.
Lawyer: What is it - are you trying to understand what that means
I asked if that meant three years ago,
and he said, "No, at the age of three."
He believes that he communicates telepathically
with Slenderman, and that...
As soon as communication begins, that he must do it
what is it asked Slenderman.
Lawyer 2: And if he doesn't do it what is demanded,
his family won't be safe
Robbins: He will not be safe, his family will not be safe
Lawyer 2: Dr. Robbins, is Morgan's entry into this particular crime because of the psychosis?
I believe so.
Casimir: Bears say that schizophrenia,
in and of itself, Not a dangerous disease.
There are many 35-year-old children who suffer from schizophrenia
who doesn't have it to be jailed,
who can be managed in a community
However, there is the second part for that.
If your imagination - when your imagination remains
tells you to kill people...
and when you...
Insights do not allow you to seek treatment,
then schizophrenia becomes dangerous
This is dangerous untreated disease...
and hence... here.
(chat) (birds singing)
Matt: You are very lost in your illness
that no one knows about...
and then for people to hate it like that, just hate you -
"I hate that little girl. I hope she burns."
Like, having people call my house and tell me,
"You will burn in hell and that's your daughter."
People don't understand that...
(emotionally) she loves Bella
We love Bella...
So much, and he still talks about him like they are friends.
Oh my God. He loves her like I love her
And like it, for people to talk about him walking they do it, it's like--
Morgan loves Bella. He - like, how sick you are
that you will do that to your best friend
Because you're afraid of something that happened,
or because you want something happens.
You want to be something...
because of your illness This dictation something you need
Just blows me away...
that person like that. That makes me sad.
(sniffles) I hope people know.
(crying) ♪ ♪
(Morgan speaks)
(whistle)
(Anissa speaks in video)
(speaking unclear)
(Anissa speaks on video)
(Anissa sighs)
♪ ♪
(clears throat)
(Trussoni speaks)
(Anissa speaks)
(Trussoni speaks)
The usual just treat ordinary cats that you are used to
Just say, "I love you, kitty."
Cat Cakes only 2.99 at your local grocery store.
(Casey speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
Lawyer: Thank you.
Detective, have the opportunity to watch compile it?
I see compilation.
Lawyer: And do you agree? that you present
in that room with Morgan Geyser?
They are...
interview pieces
I am and Morgan together.
Lawyer: Do you tell Morgan that he can have parents available
to talk to before you interrogate him?
I did not tell him that, because that was not an option.
Lawyer: You won't let it his parents present?
Right. Lawyer: Or let him have it phone calls to talk to them?
Um, we don't offer him a telephone call.
Lawyer: At some point are you provided with Anissa's phone?
Casey: Yes, that's the case. Lawyer: Do you have one? opportunity to see
on one... message on the phone
Yes I do.
He said, "This is my last hope for those who care..."
♪ ♪
(crying)
Trussoni: Mm-hmm.
♪ ♪
(ringing the church bell)
Lawyer: Where do you find suspect?
Thom Moerman: They are right by I-94 in Waukesha County.
Lawyer: Do you pay attention to something?
about Anissa's emotional state
When have you ever contacted him?
He said he was scared,
and I ask what she is afraid of?
Lawyer: And do you remember? what did he say to you
He mentioned that if he told me,
I would think that he is crazy,
and I told him that I didn't think something was crazy
Trussoni: Good.
(exhale) (clattering)
(mumbling)
(breathing shaking)
(Trussoni speaks in video)
(Anissa speaks)
(Morgan speaks)
(Casey speaks)
(cellphone playing song) (speaking unclear)
Can you ask questions please one more time?
Lawyer 2: One of the first communications
before there are from search requests
found on Anissa's phone
that is provided by by his parents, really?
Right. Lawyer 2: That's basically letter goodbye
Right? Yes.
Lawyer 2: And basically shows that
people must remember who he is,
not sad for him...
and that he won't harm them
Right. Lawyer 2: No more, Your Honor.
♪ ♪
(character babbling on iPad)
Bill: Aiden? Wrap it, head. we have a place to go
OK? We have to run to school
for mandatory meetings about iPads -
setting up their iPad...
and use their iPad, and...
The disadvantages they will be in
if they are not permitted to use their iPad
(sighs) Do you know?
I don't think anyone can really, You know, envy me
to think the way I do...
a group of fifth graders get iPads
You know, based on what this family has been through.
At the same time...
You know, I don't want to hinder learning.
(babbling)
Bill: I think I only need...
handle my own order about that.
And about iPads.
If I have my way, he won't have it
You have a child...
imprisoned, because of deficiencies of better terms...
but your other life still has to continue,
so you still have to be able to support your other children
with activities that they are in, and...
You do your best to support your children
that you can't have access to...
and must explain to Anissa,
"Well, I may not be able to come on Tuesday,
" because Aiden has a meeting sir
I have to be there for that. "
I already have conversations with... my eldest son I was out in the backyard. He came out, he said to me," there what? "
(clock ticking)
(breathing deeply)
That's when I told him...
it's just stress like hell...
trying to keep everything balanced as possible.
(sighs) You never get holidays
(emotionally) and it uses it on you.
It only really uses nonsense from you
Because you have to do more...
to try to keep everyone
in a positive place, include yourself.
His...
It's mentally...
and emotional and physically only drain.
(sniffles)
(birds singing)
Angie: I know that is always risky,
just because... genetics
that one of our children may experience schizophrenia.
I never thought something like this would happen
Matt is so...
He is very high functioning and he is very... stable.
I only know that he has developed an awareness
of what is real and what is not
And I think, for Morgan,
that line is still quite blurry...
but that's all is still very real to him.
In general, Morgan has just started more is missing
and involved in this world
imaginary friend he has
The best situation will be that he ends in the environment
where he can receive treatment for schizophrenia,
and that will happen a psychiatric facility
Not a prison. He can't be jailed.
♪ ♪
I think This is rather cruel from the court...
to have a law where You can take two girls
who is not the previous troublemaker...
And they don't try to hide what they do
They don't lie about what they do
They are very honest for that And it feels like being extra punished because of that
Well, let's hope the judge will have good news.
Some good news.
The two young girls were accused of stabbing their classmates return to court
WISN 12 news' Hillary Mintz
live in Waukesha County with the latest.
Hillary. Well, Melinda,
for the past year there were quite a lot of since the stabbing happened,
a judge here at the state court building
have tried to find out "Should Morgan Geysers
and Anissa Weier are tried as adults or teenagers? "
That decision is expected to come today,
and the bet in the decision is very high
♪ ♪
Victim, Payton Leutner, 13,
has recovered physically,
but they say he is still dealing
with emotional damage.
♪ ♪
The court is prepared to continue the decision.
The court easily finds that this is violence,
planned , personal violations
There is a conscious decision is made
at the time of violation let the victim die
They tell P.L. that they will go to get help They did leave...
and they go, walk to Nicolet National Forest
to find Slenderman House
and then meet with Slenderman
This is charged as an attempted murder,
that this is actually - this is an effort to kill someone,
not an error by hitting them too hard,
not error by pushing them too hard.
Problems brain development
important so that the court considers it.
They are young when the violation occurs,
but they get older every day, frankly.
They are a year older today.
But what happens at the age of 18? And in this court's view,
That is an important factor so the court can evaluate.
There will be no supervision, no control,
there is no way to ensure public security.
They have committed a serious violation
It's - it's, frankly, ferocious.
There must be certainty That doesn't happen again,
it's a serious violation
handled seriously
which offers protection for everyone.
On that basis, I will order the defendants,
Geyser and Ms. Weier,
maintained in adult jurisdiction
As ordered.
Nick Bohr: There are tears and some are shocked here in court
as a judge rejects motions by lawyers for both girls
to handle their cases in juvenile court
Lawyer Anissa Weier keeps saying
they will discuss possible appeal.
The victim's father here said they would not comment,
even though family does look cheerful
follow this decision
♪ ♪
Bills: I am sure they will do it finally found.
I think they will never have made it to the state forest.
From Waukesha to Nicolet State Forest
is a four- for five hours of travel.
And they think they will run it?
They don't know from what they need walk that far.
The judge ordered Anissa did not have contact with the internet
The judge also ordered the , you know,
he does not have contacts with fellow defendants.
♪ ♪
Angie: Morgan doesn't have access out.
There isn't even an window to look out
Morgan says that this does not bother him,
because he doesn't want to go out again
(birds singing)
One of the things Anissa and her It's been discussed,
whatever happens...
they will always be with
(crow) (no clear dialogue)
♪ ♪
(chain clink) (click camera)
(mouse click) (click camera)
(coughing woman) (whisper)
♪ ♪
(mouse click)
♪ ♪
(ringing the church bell)
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