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You know, Sarah. [laughs]
And I'm very excited are here tonight,
and I am very happy that all of you come to celebrate his work,
his words, and he - it's, um...
only beautiful and beautiful sounds.
So I just thank from the bottom of my heart.
And I thank JT from below my heart and soul.
[Laughter]
[Applause and applause] I love you, JT.
You are an inspiration.
Thank you.
[Applause and applause]
Thank you, JT!
**
Dirty: My guest, JT LeRoy, is a 21-year-old writer
with two fiction books based on on his experience
as his son from truck prostitutes stop.
When LeRoy was 15 years old, his therapist, Dr. Terry Owens,
encourages him to write.
Although LeRoy already exists about his life,
he doesn't like to show his face to the press
and do most of the interviews By telephone.
It's Fresh Air.
So, um, so, why do you still feel this is very important? to keep your identity hidden?
Leroy: You know, I'm writing about things that are quite personal,
and also, gender problems.
Sometimes I like to go out as a girl.
Sometimes, I like going out as a man.
So, I really never wanted someone to come to me
and say, "I know what you are,"
and being in that position where they can hurt me.
Although your work is really interesting,
Some people think so You may not really be there.
In other words, that's JT LeRoy maybe the name of the pen,
or deception, or the like extended performance pieces.
- [Laughter] - I mean, are you experiencing this? a lot of people think that this is fair
some kind of trick?
**
[The answering machine reads, click]
[Beep]
[Click, swish]
LeRoy: Hi. I am JT -
Jeremiah Terminator LeRoy.
- [shouting unclear] -Jeremiah comes from the Bible,
but I like that.
That makes me feel protected.
**
I was born in wild West Virginia on Halloween.
[Cats chuckle]
My mother is Sarah.
He had me when he was 14 years old.
He is using drugs and doesn't even know
how to change diapers.
Sarah is a prostitute...
**
many lizards.
We live in cars, motels.
Every new city, we change our name.
I can be a man, or I can be a woman.
But usually, we sisters are therefore more permitted.
Sarah married many times.
Men only love him. She is beautiful.
I keep thinking...
**
if I can as beautiful as he is,
he will see something in me.
[Click]
**
[Phone rings]
Benderson: I remember the first call very well.
The voice of a very gentle woman said,
"May I speak to Bruce Benderson?"
Immediately, I'm very suspicious
because it sounds like a young girl
of maybe 13-12, 13, 14.
He said, "Well, I a great admirer of your work."
[Click]
So, I said, "Are you a boy?"
And he replied, "Well, the last time I checked it, me."
[Fax machine call, beep, swish]
On the floor, there are extraordinary
stack of paper.
And I sighed, and I tore it. [Shredded paper]
And I started reading it, get ready to throw it away.
LeRoy: "heroin in to tell you the truth of God."
And I thought, "Oh my God, this can't be trusted. This person is a genius."
He has given me his phone number,
and I immediately called him back. [Phone call]
[Phone rings]
[Receiver click]
And then I say, "It's amazing -
amazingly written."
[Receiver click]
LeRoy: That's something I always know.
Heroin who came with the balloon special message for me.
**
Yes, I will smoke,
shooting darkness, stay inside.
[deep breathing]
But the balloon is the only
it will really save me.
**
Heroin in to tell you God's truth is
just to change me until the time comes. [Geese Gees]
It will be a sunny day - no clouds, no wind.
Many people will gather, smile and be happy.
People will surround me and slowly attach my silver,
my blues, my vegetables, my yellow.
I feel myself getting lighter
as a spring balloon branch of each branch.
I am God who is wasted coming for their redemption
whether they like it or not.
**
Man: Tell me about the first phone call that you made as JT.
I will arrive at a point where I have to call,
and I remember calling from the bathroom.
I'm sitting on the floor near the toilet.
[Camera shutter clicks]
Geoff and I just moved together.
[Camera shutter clicks]
He is in another room playing guitar... [Guitar picking]
do the music, and I just make calls... [Phone call]
thinking about dying,
want to die.
And I call Child Crisis. [Phone call]
That's the number that you can contact
when you are in pain. [Phone rings]
I remember I didn't know what was going to come out of me.
I don't know who will overflow.
[Ring continues, click recipient] And this man answers.
Hi. I am Dr. Terrence Owens.
I am clinical director
from the Masonic Center for Youth and Families.
He asks what is my name.
And that's "Terminator,"
which I will never choose because it's a stupid name.
But that's the name.
He is 13 years old,
change the trick,
live on the streets.
And Dr. Owens, he said,
"Why don't you call back tomorrow?"
**
And I don't know if the Terminator wants,
or whether he will be there or whether it will work.
Many other boys have gone through me,
they don't...
they don't live.
But he did it, and he was there.
[Phone call]
And slowly, my life begins to spin around talking
to Dr. Owens the next day. [Phone rings]
So as if my world is under water.
And then, for half an hour, the Terminator will talk to him,
first... [exhale sharply]
breath of air, and then I will go bankrupt.
[Click, swish]
**
Okay, today's date 8 January
and I'm Laura.
What happened My parents were divorced
when I was in eighth grade, and it just exploded for me.
[Fireworks whistling, popping up]
I started to resign a different school,
and my mother went berserk.
[hissing, screaming girl] We have done this fight,
and he loses control and throws, like, heavy things.
[Clatter]
He goes, like, together different men all the time,
lots of slippery bags that will come to me
it will, you know, try dirt -
Like, someone will call me in the middle of the night
and say he loves me, he wants to be my father,
but he also wants it to be my lover.
[Phone rings]
And my mother saw this nonsense too.
He saw how to mess it up too.
I called my father. My father said,
"Good..."
I like, you know, "Hey, fuck you."
So, I decided, someday,
"I have to act. I have to do something."
[Recipient clicks, telephone call] I pick up the phone. I contacted this hotline.
[Phone rings] And it never happened
for me to call myself.
What reactions will there be other than that,
"Are you fat and ugly and ugly and deserve it"?
So, I introduce myself as a man.
And I speak about this situation at home,
there is physical violence occurs
and inappropriate sexual relations.
And they are very supportive and caring.
When I hang up, I feel relieved.
**
[Voice breaking] I don't understand that.
[Crying] All I know is that works, it's like magic.
It's really amazing.
And I'm very addictive.
**
Terminator has problems with continuity,
be Dr. Owen suggested that the Terminator start writing.
What the Terminator writes is completely different.
That really surprised me.
He wrote this section called "Baby doll."
LeRoy: When Jesus died, shouted the angels,
and their tears change to stone.
My hands tremble when I take out my item,
leads me to hell.
Albert: He sent him to Dr. Owens. [Fax machine call]
[The fax machine sounds, swish]
And it's like...
a new world is open.
So, Dr. Owens and I know
that the Terminator's real name is Jeremy.
And one day, I have to get Dr. Owens
some of Jeremy's works.
And I ride along the way to the hospital.
Terminator is driving.
I pedaled, but he was driving.
So I got there.
They starred in Dr. Owens. -Dr. Owens.
Albert: I am very scared.
I met Dr. Owens,
and he asks me what is my name.
And I just thought, "How did I get here?
Very fast - Speedie." [Laughs]
That is my name.
[Camera shutter clicks]
He is an [English accent] "Hello. I'm Speedie.
Nice to meet you."
[Normal voice] He's English.
[Click]
So Jeremy wants it to be a better writer,
so I read everything,
everything I can get my hand.
And that only resonates with everything...
- [Grunts, groans] -... lives inside me.
Boy: [Screams]
And I usually pray not, "God, please make me
beautiful beautiful girl."
That, "Let me wake up as a cute blonde,
blue-eyed man - a blond, blue-eyed boy
that a man will like and want to make love."
**
[Phone rings]
Silverberg: So, this young person reaches out.
There is a kooky factor.
[Southern Accent] I mean, when someone talks like that
on the phone that says, "I'm homeless,
and I have to pass to Dennis Cooper.
and I go around with a fax machine."
It seems perfect for Dennis, and Dennis did it.
[Phone rings]
[Recipient click, dial tone]
Well, I mean it's all, like, you know,
"I like your book 'Try'."
This is my Bible, and I'm really connected
for characters that allows men to sexually use them.
[Click]
He will say he calls from -
Sometimes, he says public telephone.
[Coins vibrate]
Sometimes, he said he was at a friend's house,
and finally that friend becomes Speedie.
There isn't much time where Jeremy is homeless,
and finally he got this boyfriend, Astor.
So you have this character pattern,
and suddenly I need Astor
to be Geoff. [Ding! ]
Because Astor doesn't exist.
Astor fair on astral plane.
So, it happened Jeremy is now alive
with Speedie and Astor as a family.
[Click]
**
Being with my Barbie, I control,
and that commands the universe.
And the Barbie world I'm not a happy world.
Actually there are photos where I have them all lined up
naked with their butts in the air.
And they go for discipline.
I will make this very intense, very intense story.
Barbie I committed rape crimes
and assault
and child abuse.
They get hurt, and I can make them bleed.
They are given black eyes.
**
I don't know
that the way I play Barbie dolls are not normal.
[Click]
Gradually, the story Terminator starts coming out.
[Click, swish]
He said he came from a Southern Baptist background
with sadistic, fundamentalist grandparents.
[splashing liquid, screaming boy] One of them makes it bathe
in a bleach bath.
It's more gradual coming out that the AIDS he has
maybe caught one of his mother's girlfriends
who has tortured him.
And the high voice might be due to the fact
that the genitals have been mutilated
so he never goes into puberty.
[Phone rings]
He finally gave up for my constant question
by offering to send me a photo.
They show a rather interesting blond boy around 15.
And I really frame them and put them on my bookshelf
with photos of my family and my lover.
At that time, helped him develop as a writer
becomes a mission for me.
**
[player click video]
There are not many findings in publishing anymore.
To hear new sounds is fun.
William Burroughs, Genet, Allen Ginsberg -
all of these people give to alternative cultures
and suddenly it seems there is a torch torch.
This is a homeless teenager who deals with HIV,
just got off the road.
Someone, whose job is invited to talk
aspects of American culture I have never heard before.
And it shouldn't.
I know I still need to write.
I still want to write.
But I don't want to damn write that crap.
And I don't let them publish work.
You are sure because the fuck is not running away from the book agreement.
And I do it.
[Alternate page]
**
I am 32 years old, and I am pregnant.
And I still speak with Dr. Owens,
but everything changes.
But Jeremy is still there.
And my body just betrayed him
in the final way.
I am really a woman.
I have given birth to a baby boy I breastfeed.
There is no hope in hell that I will give Jeremy his body
which he really wants.
Because of my focus, my number one priority,
what is this baby.
Not him.
And then one day, the door of willingness is open.
That's exactly like watching a movie.
It's like the 1940 series, cliff hanger.
I will only see to the next street sign.
I am in the fog.
I will get to that point soon.
Then I will end it.
I don't know where will go forever,
but that continues to guide me,
and I will do it watch it unfold,
and that's very fun.
[Air brakes explode]
[Engine revs]
[moaning]
LeRoy: I looked up and saw a glowing aura
from the Holy Jackalope Temple.
[Voice of Gong]
[Steps]
Everyone closes their eyes
and make their prayers newly discovered libidinous powers.
[Boing! ]
I reach over my tube,
Take the bone of my raccoon penis, and grip it tightly.
Please, oh, divine jackalope.
I want to be a real lizard.
I want to get very large bones.
I finished writing the story, and I don't know what that is.
I speak with the editor,
and he returned to me and he said,
"You write a novel."
Sarah entered and it felt completely formed.
It is like Athena arises from Zeus's head.
Sounds like the sound of vision.
[player click video]
This book is very different from another Writing Terminator.
So we need a different name.
He doesn't want to use his name, Jeremy,
so the editor suggests use the initials -
Jeremy Terminator, JT.
Jeremy has a last name
from my phone sex client, LeRoy.
[Click phone]
So we have a name - JT LeRoy.
[Cash]
So they send unintentional books.
And I don't know how it will be received,
because I know that is very strange.
I haven't seen anything else like it out there.
And we start get a review again.
And they really, very good.
And that is the most interesting feeling to get this response
from this book which I don't mean to write.
[player click video]
Today we will do "Sarah" by JT LeRoy.
JT LeRoy is a very young American writer
Who explodes on the literary scene.
That makes me think all Southern stories -
Flannery O'Connor and Faulkner.
South Gothic superstar Yes.
There are many Truman Capote in this man.
And I really like this young boy.
And a collision between naivety and maturity.
It's like this a little weird a supernova called Sarah.
Albert: JT LeRoy is very, very shy.
He can't do readings.
So people suggest, can't read it?
Let us read it.
So it's first reading,
and I am there.
[Bell slamming]
And nobody knows I'm there.
Hi everyone.
Congratulations on reading for JT LeRoy's book, "Sarah,"
who just came out.
"Le Loup uses flashier lights, but thin people
as talks spread luck turn evil
after visiting me, patron saint of truck driver."
[Applause]
Albert: I will die if anyone knows
because I'm big and I'm uncomfortable on my skin.
And all of them come to hear
This is really hip, new, cool writer,
and I am not that.
[Conversation unclear]
**
Alright this is Laura again.
I just started very depressed,
and I know being at home really betrayed me.
And my mother, like, doesn't know what to do with me.
So I want to get help.
We go to this place, St. Vincents.
This is a mental institution - like a trash can.
And we pack my things and we go.
We boarded the unit.
There are these old people
just walking in Thorazine's gaze.
This is a very scary place 13 years old to enter,
but I feel safe Because I'm like,
"Hey, I'm with my mother."
And then I said, "Okay, you know, Mom,
I've had enough with this, I want to go."
And he said to me, "I left, you stayed."
So "Sarah" is in the world of to get great praise
and they want more JT LeRoy.
So we took the collection the old Terminator story.
LeRoy: All the voices in my head scream at me.
And I can't look out again.
I can only see large wooden electric chairs,
cable, waiting, and blank.
And the Horned One, with his wet blood claws,
gripping silver gray switch.
[Electric buzzing]
Laura Albert: We give the title,
"The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things."
And that happens The next novel is JT LeRoy.
[player click video]
[Horn horn]
JT has enough followers.
Some people call it as a sect follower.
I came because I really want to see
what are all the hype about.
He was created, you know, uh, this rumor around him.
The specialty of JT LeRoy is buzz.
Lack of a body in a funeral
makes it so much more interesting.
Because JT doesn't come out and read for itself,
he has a lot of supporting celebrity groups
who will come out and read his work because they love him.
Well, I feel like I have - new good friends
because I already - I have talked to him
on the phone all week.
[Video player clicks]
In "Sarah," - bone raccoon
is a kind of badge of honor.
This, um...
the equivalent of a prostitute from a military sling,
or Scout achievement badge.
I can't bring myself to bring, uh,
at this stage of my life... [Laughs]
uh... the penis of another mammal rests on my neck.
Silverberg: The one signed JT LeRoy penis bone raccoon
is a brilliant work ephemera.
They sell! They sell.
People buy this bone raccoon penis.
It's as close as anyone will get JT LeRoy.
Um... Yes, I did.
I believe that I will meet him.
I do.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: So, the books took off, especially abroad,
and you have German media really, really want
to broadcast live, direct interview.
JT LeRoy must walk between us.
**
One day Savannah has ended in our house,
and he sits on the sofa,
and he shaved his head and colored his hair with blue,
and he wants it to try on my glasses.
I have this straw hat,
and I gave him bone penis raccoon,
and he chewed it like corn cobs.
And I see it and I say,
"You know, you look like JT LeRoy."
So I came up with an idea -
only once.
You wear sunglasses, a cute blonde wig.
We will, like, tie your breasts.
This will be very fast.
You will get 50 dollars.
[Cash] And he fell.
**
Laura Albert: When we were filming,
Savannah is standing on Polk Street,
types of tattered clothes,
looks like a street dealer.
Laura Albert: I am very afraid that he cannot articulate it.
And they interviewed Savannah - they interviewed JT.
Laura Albert: And it's amazing to watch
how he actually lives in him.
He only has that feature which is more masculine,
which is very fitting for a teenage boy.
Perfect Savannah,
and this is really free moment
because almost like in "Frankenstein,"
"Let there be life."
I'm watching JT directly.
Laura Albert: Um, I was ostracized,
and people like, "You are in a mental hospital."
You are crazy.
Laura Albert: I feel like a mismatch.
I am completely isolated.
And I found this secret society, and that is mine.
In grade 9, I entered punk.
That - it helps me, okay?
I have a lot of problems, and that helps me.
I get my little fingers, Generation X,
and Sex Pistols.
I heard that note, and my fate was sealed.
I mean that's everything.
That's it.
But I will only come out
if I feel My weight decreases,
if I can get into clothes that's pretty punk.
There is nothing worse than being a fat punk.
So I will send my sister in the world to live for me.
Jojo is my avatar in punk.
I will dress it up, I use makeup,
I will arrange her hair.
I have a leather jacket.
I will put a badge on him.
I will choose a T-shirt.
I perfected his appearance,
which is a two-sex boundary .
Like he can become a man, but he also looks cute.
I will tell him who will he talk to,
who he will meet,
and he must report back to me.
And I sent it away.
I am very intense away in the scene
because I might be able to -
live in my head, see it revealed
without actually must be there.
**
[Engine revs]
Hey, Mikey, how long have I been on the street?
on this crusade?
I like Gus Van Sant "My Own Private Idaho."
So when he wants it to the option "Sarah,"
as if we were following
existing paths are destined.
[player click video]
Like JT LeRoy,
I have hours of conversations with him.
But now, we have to meet him.
How can I do it? give all the details,
little things to Savannah?
What if they talk about movies?
He came to San Francisco,
and he brought the actor Michael Pitt with him.
So we went to a restaurant,
and we wait for Gus to appear,
and I'm very nervous.
I am his assistant.
But I have to be advocate for this book
and finish the job.
So we met Gus.
[player click video]
They bring out
all of this really, a very expensive dish.
And I really want to find out
what he wants to do with "Sarah."
[player click video]
And it's like,
"Why does he have to speak to Speedie,
JT Assistant, about his plan for 'Sarah.' "
And Speedie is on Gus's face.
[British Accent] Oh, Gus, God, you know
"My Own Private Idaho" very good.
River Phoenix, oh, my God, what is he like?
Oy, Gus, damn barnyard accident -
How is this? do you do that, buddy?
[Normal sound] Speedie must overcompensate
with this kind of entertainment, fat girl persona.
And I really feel very bad about myself.
I'm big.
I feel very embarrassed about my body.
that it really empowers so Speedie takes over.
We are outside the restaurant with Gus Van Sant,
and we just hang out
and JT and Mike Pitt are smoking.
And, the next thing I know, they kiss.
[player click video]
Be "Sarah" like
a message in a bottle to the world.
And suddenly another artist wants that connection.
* Give yourself away
* And you give yourself away
We were given VIP tickets, we went backstage,
and we go to intimate after the party.
The Edge is there,
and I watch Bono call JT.
And I know what will happen.
That happens for all artists
when they arrived.
This is their admiration for what will happen next.
That is to help deliver them through the portal.
You have Bono talks.
[Dings]
* Magic and destiny rotation *
Albert: So I saw Bono curled closer
with his arms around JT,
and if you don't know better,
You will think they are father and son.
And Bono was very loving gave him industry advice.
"Be careful with sharks, Be yourself,
and never forget where you came from."
While JT is getting Bono talks,
Speedie is getting closer the manager is talking.
Paul McGuinness, U2 manager, comes to Speedie
and he said,
"Hey, do you see what my daughter is doing for you?
[As a Speedie] Ah, what happened? Your son did it for me?" [Normal Voice] And he whipped out Rolling Stone magazine.
And that's it.
"Bono says, 'That heart Dec Deceitful Above All Things'
[As Bono] blows my mind.
**
[Applause and applause]
I am 16 years 17.
And I am committed again for the second time.
And the social worker is very clear
that I must really not go home.
So my parents give up,
and I become state ward.
And I finally in a friendly home,
group house, run by Jewish childcare agency.
One day I saw this beautiful skinhead,
depends outside the New Yorker theater film,
and he has braces and Doc Martens cow-blood.
We just saw The Who, "Quadrophenia,"
and I think, "How do I approach it?"
and I decided to use it a British accent,
because I don't know anything will be more unbearable
to a British-style skinhead.
And we fall in love.
I will take it to the group's house,
and all girls will know I am English.
[British accent] Hello, this is my boyfriend.
This is Mick.
Yes, so, uh, he will, like,
join us for dinner.
[Laughter] He is like, you know, "What's funny?
Are they laughing at me?"
Oh no, no, no, they are only -
they don't have a skinhead ends.
They just think it's funny.
[Normal voice] Maybe it's about four months
going out with each other
before he knows that I am not English.
[Heart monitor sounds]
[player click video]
Albert: Suddenly, JT is the person who entered
for the fashion world.
And makes JT an icon for
mode sensibility very, very real.
Because of that right at that time
where I started to be able to dress myself
not just dressing avatars.
[player click video]
Italians like JT.
The books are number one and number two
on the best-selling list.
Being an Italian publisher, Fazi, brings JT and Speedie
to Italy to read.
Asia Argento used to be this big Italian star.
We have seen the film "xXx."
He plays, like, a Russian action star.
[Gunfire]
Weapon. There are more weapons here behind.
**
Laura Albert: His father is Dario Argento, master of horror.
-Aah! -Aah!
Aah! -No, no, no!
No! [panting]
Laura Albert: And Asia have got the books.
[player click video]
And he hopes to convince JT
to give him rights.
And we meet Asia.
Like Speedie, I go to him, and I say,
[British Accent] "Oh, this is very happy to meet you,
God, you are very beautiful.
You look like Drew Barrymore young."
[Normal Voice] So Italian publishers are very excited,
because there are this great literary event,
and somehow, they pressed JT to the bill.
So when we get there,
there are fans waiting for us to arrive.
And, Savannah is starting to get nervous,
because he hasn't finished yet read beforehand.
So, he entered the port toilet, and he vomited.
[Women vomit]
It's time for him to continue.
And our host presents JT LeRoy, best-selling author,
to Milan.
And I really want to protect the anonymity.
He wears sunglasses and an visor.
He was very scared, his body was trembling,
so I thought, "What will Warhol do?"
I told him under the table.
Damn them.
And he did it.
He takes the microphone and walks under the table.
and he is reading,
and you almost can't hear his voice.
LeRoy: [Speaking unclear]
I look at his oversized hand
when they hold the stairs tightly,
just as I see it Hold one of the girls' wrists when he dragged it to another room...
And after that, there is silence.
And then there are these big waves of applause.
[Applause]
And he suddenly realized that he was in the stadium,
and it's crowded.
And he jumped.
And he turned around,
and go face first to the microphone.
and you only hear from the entire audience gasp,
then they go, "Ohh",
and they like it...
[Applause and applause]
... and he ran away.
And that's perfect.
That's perfect.
So JT and Asia soon, JT just fell in love.
Asia sweeps JT from his leg.
And I am tied to his leg.
I am the tail of a kite that is coming.
This is June, this is Rome,
I watch JT go with Asia.
It was made very clear that I was on the road.
That's kind of like, "Speedie, go home."
I feel very lonely,
because my Barbie doll has come back to life,
and there must be those feelings
they won't mind kill me.
JT back to the hotel where we are
with lipstick his whole face,
smells like Asian perfume.
And he is tall, and the wig is released.
And he has something happens.
["La Donna e Mobile" by Giuseppe Verdi plays]
And he is in cloud nine.
And he doesn't do it want to talk to me.
And all I have to remind you is that you are on the clock.
You are on a dime.
It's about movies.
I have to know, because when we're on the phone,
he might call me, not necessarily JT,
and I have to match that.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: Asia will get the book
one way or another.
He will do anything, anything that needs to be done,
and I respect that,
and I think, "Yes, you can make this film."
So Gus and JT speak all the time,
and they get along well
that Gus agreed to do it shooting
for Abercrombie and Fitch,
where JT literally walks on water.
The choice of Gus on "Sarah" has expired,
but he has a project, that I love very much.
It's based on Columbine...
[Shots]
... and see children carrying weapons to schools,
and kill everyone.
[sound breaking] They, like, start exploding
and shoot everyone in the cafeteria.
And then you can hear them laugh.
And, has been disturbed
in the hallway my grammar school,
I can't wait to go home and run away into my doll,
because the school is only torture.
I was constantly ridiculed and laughed
and ridiculed because of my weight.
My name is Laura Albert,
my last name is Albert, and I'm fat.
And when I enter school all children will scream...
Man: Hey, hey, hey.
This is Fat Albert.
That - it's terrible.
That only - never stops.
So when Gus said, "I have this project,"
that's all he needs to say.
That night, I just sat and wrote the first scene,
which he finally uses.
It's a girl it's not interesting,
he is overweight,
he is in the library.
And he was shot.
Michelle: Hi, you guys -
[Sound shot]
[Gun cocks]
I wrote the whole script, but the problem is,
Gus has been through the portal.
He was truly inspired by auteur B├⌐la Tarr
who will do this a very long tracking shot,
and he is also very interested improvised.
Hey, what are you doing?
Exit. Do not come back.
[player click video]
In my dream,
I am a rock star, and I am Miss America,
and I am a tap dancer, and you know.
There are many things I want to do it,
but I think I - I am more interested in -
I mean music even more than literature.
This is a faster impact
from, um, an artist passes someone
and share their vision.
When the name becomes JT LeRoy
and "Sarah" published,
I have felt anxious about the way the Terminator
managing his career.
I want to keep it presence of pure literature.
and more,
I hear this celebrity
added to the mixture.
Ira Silverberg: That's the door of a celebrity spinning,
are both marginal and real.
My fear is JT LeRoy won't be taken seriously
if the only one there is is a celebrity veneer.
I pulled JT aside and said,
"It's time to go back to writing."
It's time to be a writer again.
That's all you have.
Gianopaolos: I am worried that he is too interested in
to the world of art, world of cinema, world of fashion,
especially as the book starts to run well,
and he is interested in in more than the world of music.
LeRoy: This is about me.
Oh, it's about the story.
Gianopaolos: I remember this extraordinary amount of time
which JT spent writing lyrics for this band.
Okay, we are Thistle.
**
I fell in love with Geoff because he was a musician who was born.
The dream, the goal is always to be a rock star.
And I really want it to be a singer.
And we work together all the time in our music.
I will write melody and lyrics,
and he will combine it.
And I like what he gets,
so we start a relationship.
And now, even though Geoff and I
still creating music together,
it feels like that I move more towards
living with his sister instead of living with him.
And I really want maintain our connection
and his dreams and dreams live.
So we started sending music out,
and of course, who wrote the lyrics?
JT LeRoy.
Who wrote the melody? JT LeRoy.
Who sang it? Speedie.
[Video player clicks]
And Speedie really changes to a new character .
Instead of being a JT handler, fat, hide in the background,
now I'm Emily Easier, vocalist of Thistle,
and we appeared all JT readings.
[Conversation unclear]
[Guitar chords playing]
**
Albert: I was singing on stage -
me, Speedie, now Emily Frasier.
And next to me playing guitar, is Geoff, my partner,
Brother Savannah, Astor - The former Terminator lover.
And then, dancing in front of us in the audience
is Savannah, my son's aunt - JT LeRoy.
So the level doesn't make sense.
[player click video]
[Conversation unclear]
**
Albert: For the release JT Leroy's third book,
"Harold's End,"
Deitch Gallery organizes a large event.
Lou Reed is on stage, brings Natoma Street to life.
He crossed his legs.
"18," I said.
Albert: And everyone tries to have a moment with JT.
I go to the balcony,
and I look down crowd.
And I see my father.
I invited him.
And he just laughed.
And that is a moment of pride.
He saw me hospitalized.
He must sign it the right of self as a parent.
And this feels like a very good gift.
He can't tell anyone, but he knows.
And that's the most important thing.
**
LeRoy: I showed it enough to make them interested
who is this mysterious girl can be.
[Catcall]
I convince myself I am a comic book hero...
[Zoom! ]
... hiding in the shadows.
I want to say something,
something that will happen explains everything.
But my eyes are still bowed.
[Solve pumpkin ' "Disarm" plays] * Cancel you with a smile
* And cutting you like you want me to *
* Cut the little boy
Albert: I really love Smashing Pumpkins and no male artist at that time was talking about child abuse.
So I really hope someday
that JT will have a chance
to talk to Billy.
[Video player clicks]
So later that night, I have a show - Spaceland.
We get there, and the door people say, "Where is JT?"
And I said, "Oh, you know, he's already there. I have this red hair, and I have lost weight,
and I feel maybe even a little pretty.
**
And that's amazing.
I am really in front at this small little club.
**
And that - it feels he - he looks at me.
**
[Applause and applause]
So after the show, we go backstage,
and I'm very nervous.
Billy sits there behind,
and he asked me, where is JT?
And I explained, "I am Speedie. Hi greetings."
JT, he's really... [Imitating vomit]
You know, he ran away, sorry. "
And we just started talking,
and we are connected in a way
that... the language is not even capturing.
And I take if I can tell him anything...
... and I realized everything had moved me
until then.
And he motioned for me to sit next to him,
and you almost can't hear each other,
but I turned to him and to his ear, I said...
I remember this feeling.
It feels like I'm Tarzan,
and I just reach hold the vine,
and I'm swinging above the abyss,
and I know, "I will release it."
[Cries of Tarzan]
Albert: And I said to him, "JT is an accident."
And he said, "I understand What are you saying.
I do not get all the details, but I understand. "
And the rest of the night,
we only talk about . Details. That is the most liberating, extraordinary feeling,
and we continue together and Billy are the heroes too.
and I was in Billy's room.
And that's amazing lie with my ears on his chest
when he plays and sings.
I come alive in all things different levels.
[Camera shutter clicks] And finally,
I don't know what hour morning,
Geoff knocked on the door.
[Knock]
[Camera shutter clicks] [Door opens]
And he said, "I'm here for my wife."
[Door closed]
But who is really unhappy is JT LeRoy.
JT is very upset and he feels like, "Oh, great.
Laura will steal it away."
I surrender myself to Billy
but that doesn't mean their relationship ends.
[Camera shutter clicks]
So I told him JT was not happy.
[Camera shutter clicks] JT still wants an relationship with you.
And this is something I've never done it before.
[Camera shutter clicks] While I'm there with Billy,
physically with him,
JT in my body, talk to him.
Now you will leave me
and I don't want you to leave me.
[Camera shutter clicks] And Billy assured him that was not true.
[Camera shutter clicks]
That he can be there for me,
he can be there for JT,
and for others who come through this body.
So "The Heart Is Deceitful" is being created by Asia Argento.
This is a journey.
So we fly to Knoxville.
[Airplane whirs]
And we drive to the set,
and that is the actual truck stop
and I have never been at the truck stop that actually works.
And I walk down the long corridor,
and all sleeping trucks are on the side
and that's really perfect picture.
They want to make every part the correct book for life.
And they are shooting one of my favorite scenes,
that is a lizard, where Asia is playing Sarah, Jeremy's mother,
and he will go change some tricks.
So I joined the set and no one knew I was there.
And I watch on the monitor,
and Asian, this Italian actress,
is playing the West Virginian the truck stops prostitution.
And somehow it works.
It's like a mirror in a mirror in a mirror
because everything was created from my dream,
which is based on reality.
Which is based on dreams.
-And cut it. -Cut.
Laura Albert: And everyone is waiting to see it what will happen
when JT sees his world.
And I feel it too.
And I watch JT take everything.
And I like, "It's pretty good right?
They kind of get it?"
And JT like, "Wow.
You guys really made it real."
[player click video]
[Wolf whistle]
Astor: Hey, doll, how are you?
Speedie: More coffee, honey?
[player click video]
**
[Airplane whirs]
Laura Albert: We arrived there at night
and get off to Cannes,
which for me like Miami.
We were introduced to for all these celebrities
and they know who JT is.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: They are experiencing this big press interview.
Reporter: Question for JT.
Laura Albert: They ask what it's like to be on the road,
to change the trick,
what is it like to dig a coal mine.
Reporter: Can you talk close to the microphone?
JT LeRoy: Yes. Laura Albert: No one can understand what he said.
It doesn't matter if they can't translate it,
they just stare.
[Applause]
Laura Albert: And I realize it's like Mark Twain "Prince and the Pauper."
I can try to prove that I really am a writer -
I am LeRoy,
real king -
and no one will believe me.
I was there see JT dress up,
and they will walk red carpet,
[Camera shutter click] and I'm a mile away.
I am not even permitted on the perimeter.
Man: We have to go.
If you see Speedie leaving, we wait too long.
Laura Albert: This is a big filter.
Everyone is at home.
We have Weinsteins.
Laura Albert: And it feels like that The whole world is watching.
Laura Albert: So, we go to the crowded Cannes cinema and each head changes, they have seen JT.
[Applause]
Laura Albert: I was sitting there and the crowd roared.
[Applause]
Laura Albert: So the lights are off,
curtains up,
and the movie starts.
There is a young Jimmy Bennet singing Sex Gun,
slam a Bible.
And then home explosion meth.
Buddy runs out of fire
when he chased after after Sarah and Jeremy
when they move away from him.
And the incredible scene where Asia, playing mother JT,
Accused outside Piggly Wiggly shoplifting,
and open the black rain coat
to reveal himself really naked naked.
Movie Clips: Want to check my vagina?
Movie Clips: No, I don't. Now leave [INAUDIBLE].
Will he be okay?
Movie Clips: He is tired. He will be fine.
Laura Albert: And I'm sitting there, watching our movie,
waiting for our brilliant acting,
and everything is left on the cutting room floor.
And then, there is only this silence.
Unless JT is crying.
And I know I have to entertain JT.
[Applause]
Laura Albert: It's not a game, it's not a joke.
[Applause]
Laura Albert: We know that is the true life story of JT.
But we also know that as fiction.
[Applause]
**
[Alternate page]
**
Laura Albert: I'm watching this HBO program "Deadwood."
And this sound in my head keeps on going harder and harder.
Go to Deadwood.
**
So like JT, I call the magazine and I ask them
"Hey, can I cover 'Deadwood' for you?
And they say, alright JT, whatever you want. [Video click player]
[Beep]
[Video click player]
Laura Albert: I just felt possible fields
being inside myself as an artist
and having my own art suddenly materializes.
[Talk is unclear]
A great one things about group houses,
do they encourage us to study.
[School bell rings]
So I was accepted Eugene Lang Seminar College,
which is part of New School.
And I like it.
I take each class writing I can get my hand.
Even when I was little I wrote all the time.
The first time I was published
I am about seven years old, eight years old.
I have written stories for school
and it's called "The Flower It's Overnight Overnight."
And I use a male protagonist
and I am captivated, I am addicted.
That is the most amazing feel in the world.
In the class write this,
can know very good story,
I got the teacher's attention.
Laura Albert: I got class attention,
but I have a teacher writing and he is very strict
about girls who write as women and boys as boys.
And I told him, I have to write with a male voice,
but he won't let me.
And I submit this story
deal with some pretty hardcore abuse .
Physical violence, sexual abuse with female voices
and it kills me.
And I flipped, I was having a problem.
I don't want to have anything do by writing again.
I just don't want to do it.
I can't do it.
Man: Rolling! [Snap]
Laura Albert: I'm sitting outside the author's room
and I got a phone call from a reporter.
[Phone rings, click tape player]
[player click video]
Laura Albert: I feel scared.
Someone pulls it pretty hard on the curtain,
and I don't know how to turn it off.
[Beep, ring] So I called Geoff, and he told me...
Laura Albert: Like Pynchon?
Nobody knows who he is.
Like Salinger, he's out there, and now he's gone.
Just pull the plug.
That may be what sane person will do
if this is a sane situation.
But I can't do it.
I will tell him, I will only go forward.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: I was in San Francisco when New York Magazine article about.
Madeleine Brand [Radio]: It's Day to Day, I am a Madeleine brand.
The author of JT LeRoy has
it's literally a boy over the past decade
but, as it turns out, he may not be a him, and maybe not even there.
Here, with more about this the strange story is Stephen Beachy.
He recently wrote Who is Real JT LeRoy?
for New York Magazine
and Steven Beachy, welcome to the show.
Stephen Beachy: Thanks, Madeleine.
Madeleine Brand [Radio]: You do your own detective work,
and what do you find?
Stephen Beachy: It all starts this spring, when I hear a story
a woman named Laura Albert and a man named Geoff Knoop.
That they are actually behind all JT Leroy's tricks.
[Beep]
Laura Albert: After the article came out,
JT goes into full in violation mode.
He calls all those people intimate in the JT
circle and say this is nonsense.
This is deletion.
This is only revenge.
JT will do anything is needed to stay alive.
For him it's like Tinkerbell.
If you don't believe it, magic can't happen.
**
Laura Albert: One day, I was sitting at my writing desk,
and suddenly, Geoff breaks in, white like a ghost,
and he told me, I just got it call from Warren St. John,
from the New York Times,
and he said he knew everything.
And they say what do you say to him?
Geoff Knoop: Friends and family
start receiving calls from the New York Times.
Messages deleted
Laura Albert: San Francisco is too hot.
So I returned to Deadwood.
I panic, because I see a cliff.
I see the land breaking below me.
[Phone rings]
[player click video]
[Phone slammed]
Laura Albert: I'm standing on the set with Billy
and my cellphone rings,
[Ringing] and it's Warren St. John,
He told me, I will get you for violating the Patriot Act,
and I definitely catch you on email fraud.
JT LeRoy: And as JT I begged him...
[Video clicks player] Laura Albert: And I know that the story will be destroyed.
There are big tornadoes it will hit.
[player click video]
News Clips: Mobile phones are said to be part of the ruse done by JT LeRoy,
a San Francisco-based cult novelist
who is not only accused of making a sad and gloomy past
he writes about,
but completely made up the person himself.
Just this week in the New York Times published proof
that person who writes as JT,
a 25 year old former prostitute and drug addict,
is actually a 40-year-old mother from Brooklyn.
And that's the person who made it public appearance as JT,
is the sister-in-law's sister in wigs and sunglasses.
Laura Albert: What the article has
is part of a jigsaw puzzle that has not been found before.
A photo from Savannah.
Without a wig, without a hat, there are no sunglasses.
That's all he, and it's a smoking gun.
I think...
shame like that
because JT really asked to go to her caring
and say that of course he is real and now...
... they look stupid.
They look ridiculous.
They look like they have been fussed.
The media tells them that they are idiots.
How do I start?
[Beep] The message was deleted.
[Beep] [Bell rings]
Laura Albert: I have a reporter who rang my bell.
[Ring continues]
Savannah comes,
and we gather at home
and we try to find out how to bring it home.
[Door closed]
To exit the message -
Laura Albert: I went to David Milch,
and everything I can think of do I need him to save me.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: Because JT spends a lot of time
for years became his friend,
[Calling] I called Gus.
[player click video]
JT LeRoy: I heard them calling me with every name Satan.
But I'm not moving.
I remain hidden, and peek out
to see the mass bring their torches on.
Oh my God.
Oh my God!
[player click video]
Laura Albert: At the time of the disclosure,
I was accused of using AIDS to sell books.
Laura Albert: When Courtney Love finds out that I am JT
he said, "That's fantastic.
I'll take you to Oprah Winfrey and you will cry.
America likes redemption. "
Laura Albert: I spoke to Billy and he said to me,
" You can't stand in a tsunami. "
[Beep]
[Player click video]
Savannah and I are determined do not damage rankings.
We do not go to the media,
we cover your mouth.
Even with photos -self photos out there,
they still can't really prove it.
But Geoff, [Camera shutter clicks]
Brother Savannah,
my partner is almost 18 years old, he destroy rank.
[Video clicks player] Laura Albert: Jeff goes to the New York Times.
He raises the flag of surrender.
And he told them that, yes, that's me.
I write books.
And he put the last nail in the case of LeRoy.
[player click video]
All headlines say trick,
literary hoax,
greatest literary lie our time.
But things about that what language does it say
are the books are not real.
That's all that works...
... is a joke.
Director: What makes people actually believe
that you are the author?
Savannah Knoop: I think many people believe I am the author
because I said I was the author.
I mean, that's what comes down to,
Confidence is based on on this kind of contract
around what you say you do
then you assume that's what you do.
[player click video]
Laura Albert: Asia calls me
and this is the first time for him talk to me.
[player click video]
[Video player clicks]
What is thrown there
is a multiple personality chaos.
But that is not it.
I pulled the switch.
I am making a decision to go to a different rail.
I don't know what the label is,
I don't know what the classification is,
but I can tell you one thing I know -
it's not a hoax.
[Ringing]
[Receiver click]
If you buy a book,
if you feel upset because I'm 15 years older than JT,
or I am a woman and not a boy,
I'm fine with that.
The book says clearly, in a jacket, fiction.
The rest is extra.
[Click, swish]
My father grew up in Bushwick very poor,
and he has a very close friend who will take care of the baby.
He is Uncle George to me,
I know him since I was a baby.
He is always there, and he is a family.
**
My parents don't come out too often,
so for them to go out at night is a big problem.
But when I was 3 years old, my mother was arranged for theater tickets,
and they leave me with George.
And we play games.
This is very complicated, psychological game
being a good girl versus being a bad girl.
And he starts touching me and my body responds to that,
but that's the proof that I'm a bad girl.
He has a solution, and that is to hit me.
But he also touched me at the same time.
That's where everything is just...
my wire is crossed.
Because of that pain and sexual desire
becomes intertwined.
And I am not guilty of this.
My body responds.
This really makes me excited, and it's terrible,
and something is very, very broken in me.
I go to food for help
because he definitely prefers me to be thin.
**
In some cases, George just disappeared.
But damage has already occurred.
A child the smooth upper part rotates,
and that's not a lot of to send the top of the lane.
**
[Click]
**
* It must be fun to disappear
* Have actions disappear
* To always look forward
* And never look back
* It's nice to disappear
* Floats into fog
* With a young woman on your arm *
* Looking for a kiss
**
* It must be fun to disappear
* Have actions disappear
* To always move forward
* And never look back
* It's nice to disappear
* Floats into fog
* With a young woman on your arm *
* Search for a kiss
* Floats into fog
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