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My name is Jasenko Pašić.

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I was too young during the war
to be interested.

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In 2008, I got a job as an actor
at the Sarajevo War Theatre

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which was very exciting for me
because I started discovering

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completely new dimensions
of life under the siege.

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This is one such story.

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IN BOSNIAN CULTURAL CENTRE
AT 1800 - 14 DECEMBER 1994

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You can't escape war.

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The war is there.
You can only hide in some corner.

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I think I was at the Obala club
when somebody picked me up,

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told me there was a concert.
So I took my film rolls and went.

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The concert passed
in a sort of haze.

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That's why I probably took
so many photos.

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I surely wouldn't have used
seven rolls of film

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had it not been for the energy
and the madness.

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I might have used
my last seven rolls.

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The entire atmosphere
with the audience and all that

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took me back to different times,
to a life I lived before

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and the things I did before the war.

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I come from a normal family,

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from an inter-ethnic marriage,

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a concept unknown to me
at the time.

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My mother was
an Orthodox Christian

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and my father was a Muslim.

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It feels weird
to think about it now,

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some 21 or 22 years later.

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To think, as a mature man,
about what was in your head at 14.

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My mother wanted me to be
a nice boy,

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but I discovered rock 'n' roll,
I started to grow my hair

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and wear Statement t-shirts.

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Watching American films,
I had two versions of my life dream:

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to drive motorbikes and trucks
or possibly to fix them.

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My mum had a different ambition.

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She never wanted her child
to get his hands dirty.

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So my second option
was the arts.

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There began my wandering
between the two.

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Hi, Vanja, I just arrived.

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Hey!

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We were kids.
Feda Štukan was the popular one.

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He was like... so cool.
But we were always friends.

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Before the war, Sarajevo lived

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like it does today during
the Sarajevo Film Festival.

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That's how it used to live
every day.

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Next to Hotel Beograd,
Hotel Bosnia now,

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that street and the whole square
were packed with people.

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You couldn't walk in front of
the National Theatre

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because of all the cafes
and people.

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I got into
computers and drawing early on,

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as I noticed I could get a lot
from both computers and pencils.

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I was quiet and shy,
I was staying at home a lot.

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I was reading,
watching SF movies, drawing,

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and that was my world.

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Until the war came.

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When the war came,
we thought it would soon be over.

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We wanted to play,
buy new records, albums.

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But it was no longer possible.

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Another life started for us,
in the underground.

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Hello!

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It was Eid.

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There was a party so I got out
with a case of dark Laško beer.

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I got in my Fiat
and by the time I got home,

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my police station
had already fallen.

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There had been some roadblocks

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and they sorted it out
in two to three days.

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I thought it was
another foolish incident.

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Honestly, none of us expected
real war to start the next day,

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and people to start dying.

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At first,
we were excited. "School is out."

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"Yay, no school. Why?"

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"Some kind of a mess."

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"What mess?" Our crew from
Marijin Dvor went to find out.

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There were some protests
and petition signing.

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They collected signatures
for peace, for YuTel TV.

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We knew some shit was going on,

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but we thought
it was nothing serious.

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We are not giving
our Bosnia away!

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I have an older sister.
She went out that day.

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When she got back home,
she said there was a lot of turmoil,

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some shooting and unrest
in front of the Army Hall.

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Suddenly, a beautiful sunny day
turned into hell.

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Nobody knew
there would be a war.

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This is where the frontline was,
some 50 metres from my house.

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It was the frontline
in this part of the city

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and we were right on it,
totally unaware. At least, I was.

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Then the shelling of the city
and the snipers started,

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and the killing of
so many children and people.

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You walk around the city,
see everything torn down.

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Many buildings were set on fire.

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I saw Sutjeska cinema
burned down to the ground.

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Everything is filthy
and torn down.

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The department store was
also destroyed.

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Trees were cut down.

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I saw an old woman, a farmer,
walking around with a cow.

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In the middle of Titova Street.

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It was a cultural shock for me.

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In the capital city I grew up in,

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I see a cow in Titova Street.

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The worst for me
was the winter of 1992,

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November or December.

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My mum was making a fire
on the balcony to make us lunch.

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The smoke was getting
in her eyes, making her cry.

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She didn't know what to do.
It was a struggle just to live.

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I was 14 and didn't really know
how to help her.

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The normal life you had was gone,
nothing was normal any more.

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When this evil started in 1992,
we couldn't understand it.

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We were too young to understand
why the shit started.

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We took it as
the worst horror imaginable.

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To me the greatest shock was

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the systematic burning
of buildings.

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Even then, as a 14-year-old kid,
I could not understand

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why they were burning down
Zetra sports hall, for example.

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You realise it has
nothing to do with...

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That something else is at stake.

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You realise they're
burning down Vijećnica,

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the Olympic Museum,
all the things we were proud of.

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From 1984 to 1992,
everybody from Sarajevo,

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every Bosnian and honestly,
every Yugoslav was proud of

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the Olympic Games
that took place here.

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I only knew that
they came, surrounded Sarajevo

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and started shooting at us.

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As my mother was an Orthodox,
they started calling our house.

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They threatened her
and told her to leave the house

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and the Muslim
she was living with

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as well as her children,
and to cross to their side.

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Then you realise
it is not a dream.

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I remember running
under sniper fire and shells.

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I went all over the city
on my bike.

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I felt no fear at all,

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until one evening I went to visit
my friend Alma in Breka.

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I was going up Dalmatinska Street
when shelling started.

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For the first time I felt fear,
a panicked sort of fear.

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I started running up Dalmatinska,
trying to hide.

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When I felt that fear of shell fire,

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I realised the war and terror
had begun.

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My brother was shot.

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Like all the other kids,
he liked collecting shrapnel.

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He didn't listen to our mum and
ran out after the first shell.

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The aggressors would fire
the first shell, wait a bit,

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then fire a few more when
we'd start removing the wounded.

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So when my kid brother,
nine-and-a-half years younger,

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jumped out with a friend
to collect shrapnel,

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a shell fell
between his friend's legs.

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It's unclear how the kid survived.

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My brother got hit
on both of his legs.

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Wounded and covered in blood,
he ran up the stairs,

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as we lived on the 4th floor.
Mum met him on the 2nd.

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That was the big moment,
when I saw my brother wounded.

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It's different
when other people get hurt,

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when it's not happening to you.

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But when it is somebody
close to you,

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like my brother was
to me...

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He was small, innocent,
unprotected, and injured.

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That's when the war
started in me.

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It was either
surrendering to it and go nuts

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or accepting things as they were,
stand up straight

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and do the right thing
at the right moment.

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I had a house, a homeland.
It was my duty to defend it.

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It was my honour.

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We had some phones,

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we would occasionally talk
with someone from the other side.

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Once, we talked with some buddies
we knew from school,

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our friends, until recently.

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They called a few times,
warning us

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that in the next two days,
the situation would worsen,

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with heavier shelling,

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as some volunteers were coming
from Montenegro or Serbia

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and they were going
to unleash hell,

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so we needed to be careful.

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There were so many shells.

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Once, I went out and saw
some dead birds in the street.

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There were so many shrapnel
fragments and bullets in the air

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that all the birds were shot
dead and laying on the ground.

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Not much to say. 1992 was a shock,

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an adjustment
to the new situation.

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You simply decide,

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"OK, there we are,
so, let's live our lives

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the best way we can."

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So we were left to organise
new living arrangements.

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For us that meant
some sort of war schools.

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People were sent to the army
or had wartime work duty.

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When you start war school,
you get a timetable.

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Thunder from above and from
all sides, and you attend classes,

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trying to learn stuff
and pass a test.

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Both young and old, we said,

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"It won't ruin our lives,
break our spirit.

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"You won't stop me
from going to school,

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doing a concert,
even if it kills me."

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But in 1993,
some sort of "normal" life began.

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But it was that.
Anyone will say so.

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Theatre plays started
at the Chamber Theatre.

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People threw concerts
at Sloga and Obala.

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Things were organised
in basements,

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any area that was safe.

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The culture we had during
the war will never happen again.

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People were without money,
but did things from the heart.

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We wanted to show those monkeys
that we were living our lives.

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It was a great risk.

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I remember the premiere
of "Shelter" was announced.

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You didn't know where or what.

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It was performed in Kabare
at the Youth Theatre

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and they were shelling
the National Theatre.

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You couldn't tell what was worse,

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that the National Theatre
was being shelled -

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luckily, they didn't
burn it down -

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or that we created a play.

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It was a great risk.

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We staged "Hair" in the
Chamber Theatre under candle lights.

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SARAJEVO FILM FESTIVAL
AFTER THE WORLD ENDS

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That entire period was so great,

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except the horrible things.

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To me, the entire war period
is the best period of my life,

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when God walked the Earth
and people were still normal.

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Everything made sense
when you were that close to death.

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Everybody lived life to the fullest.

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Women also lived thinking...

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...a bullet could hit them
any time.

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Everybody behaved like
it was their last day.

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It was great.

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We lived in a parallel world.

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We started going out,
going to concerts,

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forming bands,
started playing music.

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We started living
a regular teenage life.

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We'd always carry backpacks
with clean socks, spare clothes

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because you never knew
where you'd end up.

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Imagine, you buy a guitar and
all you want to do is to play.

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It's like having the best toy
in the world,

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but it runs on electricity...

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...and there's no electricity.

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During the war, I brought my guitar
to the shelter with me.

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Everything else could burn.

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When the electricity came on,

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the main focus was to play
as long as possible,

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and tape record Headbangers Ball
to check out the new music.

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You had to plan and wait.

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When it was announced

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the electricity was coming
in 10 days, we had to be in that room

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and play music
because nothing else mattered.

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It was only then that we felt like

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ordinary young people at a concert,

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where some are watching
and others are playing.

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00:22:58,292 --> 00:23:02,991
We felt normal during
the couple of hours we played.

242
00:23:03,542 --> 00:23:06,250
I started writing in English then.

243
00:23:06,417 --> 00:23:11,457
The idea was to reach out
to people, to say, "Hello...

244
00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:16,994
What is going on?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

245
00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:19,699
Why aren't you doing something?"

246
00:23:54,083 --> 00:23:57,747
There was
Lezi Majmune, Blago Gluhima, Gnu.

247
00:23:57,917 --> 00:24:00,909
There were several bands
in those basements.

248
00:24:01,542 --> 00:24:07,493
We then got organised.
It was April or May.

249
00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:11,576
A group of local musicians founded

250
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:16,540
some sort of Rock'n'Roll Association
as a resistance,

251
00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:20,291
to escape the madness.

252
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:26,541
Then we made the Help Bosnia Now
shows in the Olympic Hall.

253
00:30:44,833 --> 00:30:50,454
Luckily, we had electricity
for his last show

254
00:30:50,625 --> 00:30:52,491
with Iron Maiden.

255
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:57,243
MTV was covering their sound check
before the last show

256
00:30:57,417 --> 00:31:00,614
of Bruce Dickinson
with Iron Maiden.

257
00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:03,454
We were shocked.
"What will happen?

258
00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:07,789
Where will he go?
What will happen to Iron Maiden?"

259
00:31:07,958 --> 00:31:09,198
It was a pretty big shock.

260
00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:11,867
Maiden was never Maiden to me.

261
00:31:12,583 --> 00:31:15,120
To me, Maiden was always
Bruce Dickinson

262
00:31:15,292 --> 00:31:16,703
and only Bruce Dickinson.

263
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:19,412
When I saw him on stage
for the first time,

264
00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:25,704
the black contours of
his eyebrows under the lights,

265
00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:30,073
I realised he was the guy I had been
drawing my whole childhood.

266
00:31:30,708 --> 00:31:34,155
That was the main reason
I got to like him.

267
00:38:57,833 --> 00:39:00,666
The most complicated part
was the very beginning.

268
00:39:00,833 --> 00:39:02,699
You'd always go over lgman.

269
00:39:02,875 --> 00:39:05,867
Once we'd reach Hrasnica
and we'd start climbing lgman,

270
00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:07,703
I would often...

271
00:39:07,875 --> 00:39:13,075
For me, Iron Maiden
was the best band in every way

272
00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:14,866
and Dickinson the best singer.

273
00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:18,291
I would often sing
"Run To The Hills".

274
00:39:22,833 --> 00:39:26,201
The people walking with me
had no clue whose song it was

275
00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:28,616
or what it meant,

276
00:39:28,792 --> 00:39:32,581
but it felt good
as they felt my positive energy.

277
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:35,458
We didn't have enough ammo,
or anything to respond to

278
00:39:35,625 --> 00:39:37,241
all the provocations
and shootings.

279
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:38,873
I responded with music.

280
00:39:39,167 --> 00:39:43,161
And when my guitarist friend was
with me, we could play and sing.

281
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:45,165
That was great.

282
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:25,038
My band got really fucked
during the war.

283
00:48:27,208 --> 00:48:32,282
In 1992, Aris, our singer
and guitar player,

284
00:48:33,208 --> 00:48:35,245
was shot in the head
by a sniper.

285
00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,284
Luckily, they immediately
took him to the hospital.

286
00:48:38,458 --> 00:48:40,574
They did an operation
and saved him.

287
00:48:42,292 --> 00:48:46,786
At the same time,
our drummer got hit by a shell.

288
00:48:48,042 --> 00:48:51,330
A huge chunk of shrapnel
got lodged into his thigh bone.

289
00:48:51,958 --> 00:48:53,619
They managed to save his leg.

290
00:48:53,792 --> 00:48:57,410
As the days went by,
weekend after weekend,

291
00:48:57,583 --> 00:48:59,199
we were all getting together,

292
00:49:00,167 --> 00:49:03,865
but it was quite noticeable
when somebody was missing.

293
00:49:04,333 --> 00:49:06,449
Bad news travelled fast.

294
00:49:06,625 --> 00:49:09,743
Basically, one by one,
we kept falling.

295
00:49:09,917 --> 00:49:16,243
At that time, we were all certain
we were going to die.

296
00:51:36,625 --> 00:51:41,244
NOT TO BE FORGOTTEN,
NOT TO BE REPEATED - NERMIN DIVOVIĆ

297
00:54:43,833 --> 00:54:48,999
It was such a coincidence,
but also destiny.

298
00:54:50,042 --> 00:54:52,124
One of my neighbours,

299
00:54:52,292 --> 00:54:57,332
who lived exactly
right across from me,

300
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:04,622
and worked during the war as a driver
for UNHCR and UNICEF,

301
00:55:04,792 --> 00:55:06,954
had heard that
a rock star was coming.

302
00:55:08,417 --> 00:55:10,624
A lot of people came to mind.

303
00:55:10,792 --> 00:55:13,784
At that time many stars found it
interesting to come here.

304
00:55:13,958 --> 00:55:20,455
I thought maybe Elton John
or Mick Jagger.

305
00:55:20,625 --> 00:55:25,074
I saw him one morning
before he went to work

306
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:30,290
and I asked him,
"Did you ask who's coming?"

307
00:55:30,958 --> 00:55:32,949
He said, "Some Dickinson guy."

308
00:55:34,125 --> 00:55:36,287
I got the chills
when he said that.

309
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,957
I said, "Dickinson who?"

310
00:55:40,792 --> 00:55:44,490
He says, "I don't know,
some guy from an English band.

311
00:55:44,667 --> 00:55:47,625
One of those
metalheads of yours."

312
00:55:49,458 --> 00:55:51,199
I asked, "Bruce Dickinson?"

313
00:55:52,125 --> 00:55:53,331
"That's the one."

314
00:55:54,417 --> 00:55:56,875
He said he was off
to some fieldwork in Sarajevo,

315
00:55:57,625 --> 00:56:01,619
and I told him I was coming with him
even if it cost me my head.

316
00:57:16,917 --> 00:57:18,828
SARAJEVO BRIGADE DOCTOR

317
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:15,867
The war was in an advanced stage
and it was clear

318
00:58:16,042 --> 00:58:19,455
that it wouldn't end in seven days.
My beard grew this big.

319
00:58:20,542 --> 00:58:23,955
The only thing you wished
was for the war to end.

320
00:58:25,708 --> 00:58:28,200
But when the guy came and said

321
00:58:28,375 --> 00:58:31,413
that Dickinson was coming
to town to play,

322
00:58:32,375 --> 00:58:35,037
at that moment
the war had ended for me.

323
00:58:52,417 --> 00:58:56,206
We were rehearsing
the day they called us

324
00:58:56,375 --> 00:58:58,742
and said Bruce Dickinson
was coming that afternoon

325
00:58:58,917 --> 00:59:00,658
and that we would be
the supporting act.

326
00:59:00,833 --> 00:59:04,246
We heard that Bruce Dickinson
from Iron Maiden was coming

327
00:59:04,417 --> 00:59:07,535
and that was so funny
and weird to us.

328
00:59:07,708 --> 00:59:10,780
The guy is coming in the middle
of the war to play.

329
00:59:10,958 --> 00:59:17,660
He's either crazy or they gave him
a hundred million pounds.

330
00:59:17,833 --> 00:59:21,371
The first thing I remember
is the press conference.

331
00:59:21,542 --> 00:59:26,116
I had a Chronic bandana on my head,
with a cannabis leaf.

332
01:01:12,542 --> 01:01:16,490
At the time when Dickinson came to do
the concert, the scene was insane.

333
01:01:16,708 --> 01:01:20,872
The number of bands,
artists, the range of music

334
01:01:21,042 --> 01:01:24,160
that Radio Zid was playing
was really fascinating.

335
01:01:24,333 --> 01:01:26,620
It was like
in the best of times,

336
01:01:26,792 --> 01:01:29,750
not ours, but in Europe
and around the world.

337
01:02:20,167 --> 01:02:22,033
I get the chills
when I talk about this.

338
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:26,039
We believed there was
some sort of cosmos

339
01:02:26,208 --> 01:02:30,623
connecting people and telling
the story of Sarajevo.

340
01:02:49,208 --> 01:02:52,280
As days went by,
people talked more and more about it.

341
01:02:52,458 --> 01:02:57,203
"Bruce is coming."
But all of it was a bit secretive.

342
01:02:57,833 --> 01:03:02,782
Somebody said he was shot dead
somewhere on Trebević mountain.

343
01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:45,328
Nobody had any info
about any concert.

344
01:04:45,958 --> 01:04:48,575
A friend called me at 5pm

345
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:51,913
and asked if I'd heard about
Dickinson's concert that night.

346
01:04:52,083 --> 01:04:54,074
I said, "Somebody's playing
a joke on you."

347
01:04:54,250 --> 01:04:56,958
He says, "I'm serious."
I ask, "Who else is playing?"

348
01:04:57,125 --> 01:04:59,366
He says he doesn't know
but he's going there now.

349
01:04:59,542 --> 01:05:04,412
Tickets are available somewhere,
but they are free of charge.

350
01:05:04,708 --> 01:05:06,915
ROCK SARAJEVO
WITH BRUCE DICKINSON

351
01:05:09,583 --> 01:05:11,790
"Does anybody know?
Has anybody heard anything?"

352
01:05:11,958 --> 01:05:15,076
Nobody knows a thing.
"Let's go to BKC."

353
01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:18,242
The concert will start early
because of the curfew.

354
01:05:18,708 --> 01:05:21,951
Mickinson... Something...

355
01:05:22,125 --> 01:05:26,744
When I heard these syllables,
I said, "What?"

356
01:05:27,583 --> 01:05:30,245
I was inviting friends
to a concert,

357
01:05:30,417 --> 01:05:32,158
but it was still a secret.

358
01:05:32,333 --> 01:05:34,540
We announced it
just a few hours before the start.

359
01:05:34,708 --> 01:05:37,416
It was a high-risk event.

360
01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:41,496
Could it possibly be
Bruce Dickinson?

361
01:05:42,542 --> 01:05:45,250
"Yeah, that's the guy.
He's coming."

362
01:05:46,375 --> 01:05:48,912
No way, man.

363
01:05:49,083 --> 01:05:52,747
Nobody knew anything
about the concert.

364
01:05:52,917 --> 01:05:57,832
We went to get tickets
and along the way

365
01:05:58,833 --> 01:06:06,115
we invited everybody we met
to come to the concert.

366
01:06:17,250 --> 01:06:19,867
When I told my commander, he said

367
01:06:20,042 --> 01:06:24,036
there was no way I could leave
my position, it was crazy.

368
01:06:24,208 --> 01:06:28,327
"What concert? Are you crazy?
There's a war, blah, blah."

369
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:32,243
I told him, "I've informed you,

370
01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:35,329
I'll do my guard duty
all morning,

371
01:06:36,042 --> 01:06:40,240
but an hour before the concert
I'm out of here."

372
01:06:53,083 --> 01:06:54,414
People kept on coming.

373
01:06:54,583 --> 01:06:58,781
I remember us sitting in that
small park opposite BKC.

374
01:06:58,958 --> 01:07:01,620
We were checking
who else was coming

375
01:07:01,792 --> 01:07:06,241
and sharing
a bottle of Napoleon.

376
01:07:06,417 --> 01:07:10,991
As we got closer to the entrance,
we were still in disbelief.

377
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,163
Everything seemed
so endlessly far away.

378
01:07:58,042 --> 01:08:00,374
Halfway towards Sarajevo
we were stopped

379
01:08:00,542 --> 01:08:03,705
and we were told it was
impossible to go further.

380
01:08:03,917 --> 01:08:08,616
A man said they wouldn't let
us through, even at our own risk,

381
01:08:08,833 --> 01:08:10,995
because fighting
was taking place.

382
01:08:11,375 --> 01:08:13,787
I said nothing,
but I was very sad.

383
01:08:13,958 --> 01:08:16,040
On the trip back to Mostar,

384
01:08:16,250 --> 01:08:19,993
I didn't even care
about arriving.

385
01:10:08,792 --> 01:10:13,787
That man has been
in my life since I was 10.

386
01:10:13,958 --> 01:10:16,416
And there he was,
in the hardest moments of my life,

387
01:10:16,958 --> 01:10:21,907
coming to my city,
under such circumstances.

388
01:10:22,958 --> 01:10:25,950
Utterly impossible.

389
01:10:26,125 --> 01:10:30,870
But if the war was possible
and it materialised,

390
01:10:31,417 --> 01:10:33,328
why wouldn't that be possible?

391
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:34,956
God is almighty.

392
01:10:41,792 --> 01:10:45,831
After the first couple of beats,
Dickinson comes on stage.

393
01:10:47,917 --> 01:10:49,282
I was astonished.

394
01:10:49,458 --> 01:10:52,496
I couldn't believe it was really
happening. He was really here.

395
01:10:52,667 --> 01:10:55,034
I think that was one of
the most beautiful things

396
01:10:55,208 --> 01:10:58,121
that happened during
this evil war.

397
01:11:35,833 --> 01:11:40,031
When they announced him,
people started rushing forward,

398
01:11:40,208 --> 01:11:42,575
climbing the seating area.

399
01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:48,416
We were crowded in that space,
which wasn't big enough.

400
01:11:48,583 --> 01:11:51,371
We were on the chairs and
on top of each other's shoulders.

401
01:11:51,542 --> 01:11:54,409
An explosion of pure energy,
which the band also felt.

402
01:12:51,708 --> 01:12:54,746
For me the highlight was
shaking his hand.

403
01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:57,625
He asked me what it was like
to be on the frontline.

404
01:12:59,042 --> 01:13:00,373
I fell completely silent.

405
01:13:00,542 --> 01:13:03,989
I just shook his hand
and said thank you.

406
01:14:18,417 --> 01:14:22,160
It was spectacular
when Bruce came out to the stage.

407
01:14:22,333 --> 01:14:24,495
The lights were top class.

408
01:14:24,667 --> 01:14:27,159
When Alex, the drummer,
came on stage shirtless,

409
01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:28,789
the girls started screaming.

410
01:14:28,958 --> 01:14:31,325
Long hair, proper stage,
a true rock concert.

411
01:15:20,875 --> 01:15:25,620
When Bruce
started playing, it was like...

412
01:15:25,792 --> 01:15:26,998
Another planet.

413
01:15:27,167 --> 01:15:29,158
Like a spaceship descending.

414
01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:32,871
If someone outside could
have been there to film it,

415
01:15:33,042 --> 01:15:37,286
I think we'd have seen a yellow light
shining out from BKC

416
01:15:37,458 --> 01:15:39,165
directly into space.

417
01:15:39,375 --> 01:15:43,198
There was an instant connection
with the positive energy,

418
01:15:43,375 --> 01:15:47,289
the only bright spot in Sarajevo
at that moment of war.

419
01:15:48,833 --> 01:15:50,995
The people inside were
completely oblivious

420
01:15:51,167 --> 01:15:52,532
to the situation outside.

421
01:15:52,708 --> 01:15:54,244
There was no war.

422
01:15:54,417 --> 01:16:01,244
For those few hours,
there was no war for me.

423
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:30,619
The great thing was

424
01:16:30,792 --> 01:16:34,706
that everyone knew each other
and trusted each other.

425
01:16:36,583 --> 01:16:38,745
We were in a great situation.

426
01:16:38,917 --> 01:16:41,750
"Fuck!
We are at Bruce's concert!"

427
01:16:41,917 --> 01:16:44,124
The main story was, "Fuck it,

428
01:16:44,292 --> 01:16:48,206
if we all die tomorrow,
Bruce is here, man."

429
01:18:48,250 --> 01:18:50,207
It was spectacular.

430
01:18:50,375 --> 01:18:53,913
The U2 concert in Sarajevo
was nothing compared to this.

431
01:18:54,167 --> 01:18:58,866
All that money, the big stage,
and all the lights are in vain.

432
01:18:59,125 --> 01:19:00,832
You just had to be there.

433
01:19:16,750 --> 01:19:21,540
We stepped out
after the concert was over

434
01:19:21,708 --> 01:19:24,370
and felt extremely sad
because it was over.

435
01:19:24,958 --> 01:19:26,540
You wished it had lasted longer.

436
01:19:26,708 --> 01:19:30,827
You go back to the cruel reality
in which you live in.

437
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:36,245
I looked at the clear,
starry sky and thought

438
01:19:36,417 --> 01:19:43,574
that perhaps somewhere out there
normal life exists.

439
01:23:54,292 --> 01:23:55,953
SALVATION TUNNEL HOUSE KOLARA

440
01:24:09,625 --> 01:24:13,118
The way they got to Sarajevo,
how the concert happened

441
01:24:13,292 --> 01:24:18,241
and how we all got there
is absolutely crazy...

442
01:24:18,417 --> 01:24:23,207
I guess it's life, and together
we have conquered death.

443
01:24:51,417 --> 01:24:53,533
For me and my friends

444
01:24:53,708 --> 01:24:58,453
the only true ambassador
in the war was Dickinson

445
01:24:59,125 --> 01:25:05,246
and the most important event
that happened was the concert.

446
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:12,121
I thank him for that.
He conveyed a message.

447
01:25:13,583 --> 01:25:15,915
"Hold on,
this won't last much longer."

448
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:21,745
After that, we all got inspired
to pursue music even more.

449
01:25:23,375 --> 01:25:26,447
My band started
to be more involved.

450
01:25:27,167 --> 01:25:29,750
We started doing gigs
all the time.

451
01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:34,873
Amer also founded his own band.
They named it The Rain,

452
01:25:35,708 --> 01:25:40,453
in reference to the rain
of shells we endured every day.

453
01:25:41,292 --> 01:25:46,412
It was the summer of 1995
when he was called up.

454
01:25:47,958 --> 01:25:52,748
When they all got into a truck,
he was the last one to go.

455
01:25:52,917 --> 01:25:56,740
He was reluctant to go.
And he never came back.

456
01:26:11,917 --> 01:26:14,158
Every time I come here
I leave a guitar pick.

457
01:28:15,875 --> 01:28:17,707
Good evening, Sarajevo.