1 00:00:01,793 --> 00:00:03,962 [Evidence] ♪ About to tell you who I are ♪ 2 00:00:04,045 --> 00:00:07,799 ♪ I came a long way and I still got so far to go ♪ 3 00:00:07,882 --> 00:00:09,884 ♪ Tee off with this trademark flow ♪ 4 00:00:09,968 --> 00:00:13,012 ♪ And after tonight I'm-a let the whole world know ♪ 5 00:00:13,096 --> 00:00:14,723 ♪ My name is Evidence ♪ 6 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:18,476 Of course they were all wrong. Why? 7 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:23,690 [Ben Eine] The reason why we do what we do, 8 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,400 you know, breaking the law, 9 00:00:25,483 --> 00:00:27,694 is it's an adrenaline rush. 10 00:00:34,784 --> 00:00:37,579 [The Bummers] ♪ I ain't never seen nothing ♪ 11 00:00:37,662 --> 00:00:40,707 ♪ Done in the light ♪ 12 00:00:42,292 --> 00:00:44,085 ♪ I paid for the price ♪ 13 00:00:44,169 --> 00:00:47,839 ♪ Being dust ♪ 14 00:00:49,299 --> 00:00:54,429 ♪ Now that you want me I'm unseen ♪ 15 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:58,266 ♪ Take what you want, babe ♪ 16 00:00:58,349 --> 00:01:01,352 ♪ Take it free ♪ 17 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:05,065 You know, we paint stuff on the street. 18 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:07,067 That's where it belongs. 19 00:01:16,451 --> 00:01:21,414 You know, it's for the people. It's for fun. It's for adventure. 20 00:01:21,498 --> 00:01:22,832 [siren wailing] 21 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:25,001 It's not to turn up in auction. 22 00:01:25,084 --> 00:01:26,711 Be careful whose artwork you steal 23 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,922 because you're subject to getting your ass beat. 24 00:01:30,632 --> 00:01:33,259 [The Bummers] ♪ Oh, but she came from the south ♪ 25 00:01:34,344 --> 00:01:36,095 ♪ I never seen her before ♪ 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,558 ♪ I like the curve of her mouth ♪ 27 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:43,269 ♪ She liked my moves on the floor ♪ 28 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:48,316 ♪ Hey, boy, where are you from ♪ 29 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:51,111 ♪ We're all from not around ♪ 30 00:01:52,028 --> 00:01:54,614 ♪ Why don't you call up your friends ♪ 31 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:58,034 ♪ All the girls in your town ♪ 32 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:01,621 ♪ I think her name was Denise ♪ 33 00:02:02,997 --> 00:02:05,500 ♪ She had that long blonde hair ♪ 34 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:08,711 ♪ She said, "I'm friends with the band" ♪ 35 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:12,423 ♪ I said, "Well, babe, I don't care" ♪ 36 00:02:13,591 --> 00:02:16,261 ♪ Hey, brother, why ain't you go ♪ 37 00:02:17,178 --> 00:02:19,180 ♪ Well, as a matter of fact ♪ 38 00:02:20,557 --> 00:02:23,017 ♪ I think I'm digging your friend ♪ 39 00:02:24,227 --> 00:02:26,312 ♪ Hey, she's standing out back ♪ 40 00:02:35,071 --> 00:02:39,909 [narrator] For decades, their work was dismissed as simply vandalism. 41 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:46,249 Now, it's the target of a multimillion- dollar international art grab, 42 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:51,629 paintings removed from public spaces without the artist's permission 43 00:02:51,713 --> 00:02:56,509 and sold at high-end art fairs, galleries, and auction houses. 44 00:02:56,593 --> 00:02:58,511 [Risk] You know, at least give me the right to say 45 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:00,388 what's gonna be in the gallery, be at an auction. 46 00:03:00,471 --> 00:03:03,474 You can hate my stuff, you can love my stuff, you can steal my stuff. 47 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:06,895 Give me the right to say what I want to sell or not sell. 48 00:03:06,978 --> 00:03:08,646 [narrator] The most valuable? 49 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:10,940 Works by British artist Banksy. 50 00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:16,321 His work is selling very well at auctions for millions. 51 00:03:17,322 --> 00:03:21,367 [Ben Eine] There is, yeah, insane value in the stuff that he paints. 52 00:03:21,451 --> 00:03:24,537 [Glen Friedman] It's like fucking buying elephant tusks or something. It's like, 53 00:03:24,621 --> 00:03:26,456 here's this beautiful, incredible animal, 54 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:29,000 and you're just killing it just so you could own a part of it? 55 00:03:29,083 --> 00:03:30,418 That is fucking foul. 56 00:03:30,501 --> 00:03:33,755 [narrator] This was supposed to be the story of what happened 57 00:03:33,838 --> 00:03:36,007 when Banksy came to San Francisco. 58 00:03:36,841 --> 00:03:38,468 Well, it's a Banksy. 59 00:03:39,469 --> 00:03:42,305 Instead, it became the story of art dealers... 60 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:44,599 If they would have balls, they would say, 61 00:03:44,682 --> 00:03:47,018 "It's a real Banksy, so we show it." 62 00:03:47,101 --> 00:03:48,603 ...museums... 63 00:03:48,686 --> 00:03:50,772 So, he's the Socialist rat. 64 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:52,065 [laughs] 65 00:03:52,148 --> 00:03:53,358 ...and money. 66 00:03:53,441 --> 00:03:57,487 Last offer I had from a collector was for $700,000. 67 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,991 What would you do if you were offered a small fortune 68 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:05,620 for a painting the artist didn't want sold? 69 00:04:05,703 --> 00:04:08,873 I got people that want to buy it for $700,000, 70 00:04:08,957 --> 00:04:11,000 but I can't give it away for free. 71 00:04:32,605 --> 00:04:36,234 My name is Ben Eine, and I was a graffiti artist. 72 00:04:36,317 --> 00:04:39,696 And now I'm a street artist for... 73 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:41,823 yeah, want of a better phrase. 74 00:04:42,907 --> 00:04:47,495 My style is a form of typography, 75 00:04:47,578 --> 00:04:52,959 exploring words, their meanings, taking things out of context. 76 00:04:56,379 --> 00:04:57,755 We rock hardest! 77 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:01,342 It's a fucking cool name! 78 00:05:02,719 --> 00:05:07,974 A lot of the work I do on the street is huge, great big words, 79 00:05:08,057 --> 00:05:10,435 or sentences or messages, 80 00:05:10,518 --> 00:05:12,562 or random, individual letters. 81 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:20,236 Yeah, pretty much words and letters. 82 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,072 Not pretty pictures and blue skylines. 83 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:26,617 Our roots are in graffiti. 84 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:29,454 Our interest was, you know, the letter form, 85 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:31,914 you know, exploring words, exploring letters, 86 00:05:31,998 --> 00:05:34,667 changing the shapes of things. 87 00:05:34,751 --> 00:05:37,712 ["Strudel Strut" by Romanowski feat. Jacko Peak playing] 88 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:49,348 It's a global art movement. 89 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:52,226 You know, you got people like Roa, for example, from Belgium. 90 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,104 What he does is just incredibly different 91 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:58,524 from somebody like Os Gemeos from Brazil 92 00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:00,735 or Herakut from Germany. 93 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:06,282 Someone came and invited me to paint in New York. 94 00:06:06,365 --> 00:06:08,868 From there, I went to paint in Philadelphia. 95 00:06:08,951 --> 00:06:11,621 Last year, we painted a really beautiful wall in Rome. 96 00:06:11,704 --> 00:06:17,043 Each city crafts and creates its own artists with its own styles. 97 00:06:21,005 --> 00:06:27,929 Retna, he's developed a art form based on text, 98 00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:32,767 kind of leans towards, like, gang graffiti, gang tagging. 99 00:06:32,850 --> 00:06:35,728 He's made it a beautiful art form. 100 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:41,484 Risk, original writer, 101 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:46,197 one of the first people to paint up all the freeway signs in LA. 102 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:48,866 I'm a pretty mellow dude, you know, and I've been shot once, 103 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:51,869 stabbed twice, shot at multiple times, 104 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:55,039 um, all for the love of graffiti, you know? 105 00:06:56,207 --> 00:06:58,626 [Eine] Revok, yeah, again, original style, 106 00:06:58,709 --> 00:07:01,462 hardcore writer, hardcore bummer. 107 00:07:01,546 --> 00:07:02,797 Killed stuff. 108 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,800 [Revok] They send kids here in LA to prison for eight, nine years, 109 00:07:05,883 --> 00:07:07,385 for doing graffiti. 110 00:07:07,468 --> 00:07:09,470 This kid Sight went to prison 111 00:07:09,554 --> 00:07:12,265 for eight years for painting graffiti, nothing else. 112 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:14,350 Hello. I am Anthony Lister. 113 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:19,939 Anthony Lister, crazy Australian. 114 00:07:20,022 --> 00:07:22,108 [Lister] That one looked great from the roof, 115 00:07:22,191 --> 00:07:24,402 but it wasn't right from the street. 116 00:07:24,485 --> 00:07:27,572 [Eine] He just embraces everything that his art is. 117 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:30,116 I don't care anymore. 118 00:07:32,076 --> 00:07:33,870 He is his art. 119 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,914 [Lister] The street is about me controlling space. 120 00:07:37,748 --> 00:07:40,209 It's a fever, you know, it's a disease, actually. 121 00:07:40,877 --> 00:07:44,338 Mayhem. Craziness. The end of the world. 122 00:07:44,422 --> 00:07:46,757 The beginning of the world. 123 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:48,593 The remembrance of this world. 124 00:07:48,676 --> 00:07:51,888 Doze Green, uh, definitely not boring. 125 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,309 He was there at the very beginning 126 00:07:56,392 --> 00:08:01,022 of the movement that created this form of art. 127 00:08:04,942 --> 00:08:11,657 Paris in the early '70s, it was a movement based around protest, 128 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:14,827 and Blek le Rat was one of the people that was doing that, 129 00:08:14,911 --> 00:08:18,581 and, you know, he's continued doing it to this day. 130 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:23,544 If you count the number of artists 131 00:08:23,628 --> 00:08:27,215 who are involved in this movement 132 00:08:27,298 --> 00:08:30,176 all over the world, it's absolutely huge number. 133 00:08:38,851 --> 00:08:44,190 It's really huge, and I guess people won't know how huge 134 00:08:44,273 --> 00:08:46,108 until it goes in the history books. 135 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:48,611 [Eine] Shoe, he stopped doing graffiti 136 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:52,073 and he took his art form in a different direction, 137 00:08:52,156 --> 00:08:54,700 and it's calligraphy, it's spray paint, 138 00:08:54,784 --> 00:08:56,911 and, again, he works with the letter form. 139 00:09:11,884 --> 00:09:14,345 ["Taliban Rockers" by Romanowski playing] 140 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:21,519 The most famous street artist is definitely Banksy. 141 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:29,110 I think Banksy great. We needed a Banksy. 142 00:09:29,193 --> 00:09:31,654 He's got something up here, and he's saying something always. 143 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:34,031 His creativity, just being totally clever, 144 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:35,616 having something important to say. 145 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:39,370 [Revok] I think that Banksy has become some a cultural happening 146 00:09:39,453 --> 00:09:41,914 that there's been, like, the Banksy effect. 147 00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:45,543 [Eine] I think Banksy'd been in London about a year, 148 00:09:45,626 --> 00:09:50,423 and I'd seen these strange stencils, these strange messages, 149 00:09:50,506 --> 00:09:56,012 these monkeys proclaiming that one day they'll rule the world, 150 00:09:56,095 --> 00:09:59,724 these little rats with paintbrushes that had written messages around, 151 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,852 and it was like, "This is interesting. 152 00:10:02,935 --> 00:10:05,021 This is funnier than graffiti." 153 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,735 One of the things that adds to Banksy's fame, 154 00:10:10,818 --> 00:10:12,945 you know, it's a curse, 155 00:10:13,029 --> 00:10:16,532 is how secretive of his identity he is. 156 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:19,285 No one knows who he is, who he is, 157 00:10:19,368 --> 00:10:20,786 what he looks like, 158 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:23,831 what she looks like, so... 159 00:10:23,914 --> 00:10:26,792 [narrator] Ben Eine is one of a handful of artists 160 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:29,045 who know Banksy's true identity. 161 00:10:30,046 --> 00:10:34,133 [Eine] I first met Banksy many years ago. 162 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:38,638 Originally he didn't want people to know who he was 163 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:43,059 because what he was doing was, you know, 99% illegal. 164 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:45,811 Yeah, the police would've loved to have captured him. 165 00:10:45,895 --> 00:10:47,438 You know, newspapers in England 166 00:10:47,521 --> 00:10:50,524 would actively seek him out. 167 00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:52,652 They all tried to find out who his parents are, 168 00:10:52,735 --> 00:10:54,320 try to find out who his friends are, 169 00:10:54,403 --> 00:10:56,072 try to find out what school he went to. 170 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:58,074 They want to expose him. 171 00:10:58,908 --> 00:11:00,785 [Risk] Banksy did what we all want to do, man. 172 00:11:00,868 --> 00:11:02,119 You know, he made it, he did it, 173 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:04,538 and, uh, he's doing it, and... 174 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,707 You know, I think it's funny, a lot of people are like, 175 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:08,459 "Oh, man, he's not real. He's not real." 176 00:11:10,252 --> 00:11:12,338 He's more real than all the people saying he's not real. 177 00:11:12,421 --> 00:11:13,923 I know that for sure, you know? 178 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:20,388 Everybody's aware that Banksy is, you know, the biggest thing in street art. 179 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:42,076 [narrator] In April of 2010, Banksy came to San Francisco. 180 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:48,207 [Mike Cuffe] There were thousands of people that came to San Francisco 181 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:51,752 from LA, Nevada, Utah, Washington State. 182 00:11:51,836 --> 00:11:54,338 People came here just to kind of do the Banksy tour. 183 00:11:59,260 --> 00:12:01,804 I'd get a text message at 12 midnight the next night, 184 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:03,639 "Hey, another piece just popped up." 185 00:12:07,768 --> 00:12:10,396 [Eine] People saw what happened to Andy Warhol. 186 00:12:10,479 --> 00:12:12,982 Banksy's compared, you know, the next Andy Warhol. 187 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:15,234 This is the Chinatown piece, 188 00:12:15,317 --> 00:12:17,987 and this is, I believe, the first piece that was put up. 189 00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:21,157 The funny thing about this piece is they actually went into the bakery 190 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,619 a couple days before, and they actually handed the bakery owners 50 bucks 191 00:12:25,703 --> 00:12:28,080 and said, "Do you mind if, you know, we paint on your wall?" 192 00:12:28,164 --> 00:12:32,293 And they were, you know, said, "Sure. What do we care?" 193 00:12:32,376 --> 00:12:33,502 [chatter] 194 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:36,088 [woman] I like that it has a message to it. 195 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:38,257 There's a lot of graffiti that has beautiful pictures, 196 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:42,178 but his artwork is the kind that makes you think about things, 197 00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:44,805 and it's usually promoting peace and nonviolence. 198 00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:46,974 [Cuffe] It's been funny to watch it transition 199 00:12:47,057 --> 00:12:51,604 from a community that had no idea who Banksy was 200 00:12:51,687 --> 00:12:55,232 to one that just, you know, loves this piece. 201 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:57,735 It's now a piece of the history of Chinatown. 202 00:12:57,818 --> 00:13:00,738 I think, at the time, he was on a tour of America. 203 00:13:00,821 --> 00:13:04,783 But, yeah, he came to San Francisco and painted a lot of stuff. 204 00:13:04,867 --> 00:13:06,076 [man] It's a beautiful wall. 205 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,495 I've actually hoped somebody 206 00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:10,414 was gonna do something here for a long time, 207 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:12,958 and hoped that it wasn't gonna suck. 208 00:13:13,042 --> 00:13:16,712 And, uh, it doesn't, so we kind of lucked out. 209 00:13:17,588 --> 00:13:21,425 [Cuffe] This is the Indian that was done on Sycamore in the Mission. 210 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:24,303 They actually backed up with a moving truck, 211 00:13:24,386 --> 00:13:26,388 and they had two mattresses. 212 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:32,353 And they put two mattresses on either side of the-- this-- the wall. 213 00:13:32,436 --> 00:13:34,688 And then they stationed two guys on each side, 214 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:36,273 like, talking on their cell phones, 215 00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:38,359 just like, you know, someone's moving stuff. 216 00:13:38,442 --> 00:13:41,904 They really are strategic about not getting caught. 217 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:46,283 There's not a lot of other street artists that have a team or a crew of people 218 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:50,079 that act as diversions so they don't get picked up by the cops. 219 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:53,082 [narrator] Each morning, the city woke to a new painting. 220 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:55,793 This is the piece on Mission, the bird in the tree. 221 00:13:55,876 --> 00:13:57,169 This is an interesting piece. 222 00:13:57,253 --> 00:13:59,171 Most people see just the tree, but if you look, 223 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:02,299 this tree in the background actually makes the foliage on top. 224 00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:04,969 Paintings appeared in Fisherman's Wharf, 225 00:14:05,052 --> 00:14:07,721 the SOMA district, and North Beach. 226 00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:09,473 [man] I think it's brilliant. 227 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:12,226 So, I love that he's controversial, 228 00:14:12,309 --> 00:14:16,188 yet he has a consistency in his paintings and you know it's him, 229 00:14:16,272 --> 00:14:18,691 and then also there's just a class about it, 230 00:14:18,774 --> 00:14:22,653 'cause it's real, like, minute and simple and kind of hidden. 231 00:14:22,736 --> 00:14:24,196 It's not over the top. 232 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,991 This piece, they actually had ladders going up to the building, 233 00:14:27,074 --> 00:14:29,952 and they draped down huge tarps, 234 00:14:30,035 --> 00:14:32,454 and so they kind of covered up the ladders. 235 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:36,500 And there was a party going on, big party with hundreds of people, 236 00:14:36,584 --> 00:14:39,879 just up on a building over, kind of across the street. 237 00:14:39,962 --> 00:14:43,215 So, they had to wait for, like, three or four hours for this party to disperse 238 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:45,092 to actually get up there and do this piece. 239 00:14:45,175 --> 00:14:47,845 It probably took 'em, you know, ten minutes, 240 00:14:47,928 --> 00:14:50,514 but they had to wait about four hours to get it up. 241 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:54,810 ["ET's Phone Bill" by Romanowski playing] 242 00:15:07,364 --> 00:15:10,826 [Slightly Stoopid] ♪ Why am I treated so bad, hmm? ♪ 243 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,996 We view artists who paint on property without permission 244 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:15,581 as vandals. 245 00:15:15,664 --> 00:15:16,790 They're breaking the law. 246 00:15:16,874 --> 00:15:19,209 Different cities around the world 247 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:21,795 deal with graffiti, street art, in different ways. 248 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Basically, they want to get it cleaned off and they don't want to pay for it. 249 00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:31,180 So, the way that San Francisco deals with this 250 00:15:31,263 --> 00:15:34,683 is if you're a building owner and your building gets tagged, 251 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:38,312 then it's your responsibility to paint over those tags 252 00:15:38,395 --> 00:15:40,439 or San Francisco will fine you. 253 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:46,236 There was a lot of this dialog going on that, you know, 254 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,905 this guy really didn't care about it. 255 00:15:47,988 --> 00:15:49,782 He just wanted it off his building. 256 00:15:49,865 --> 00:15:55,454 He said the city really was harassing him about getting it off as fast as possible. 257 00:15:55,537 --> 00:15:59,208 We're able to easily, you know, put this on their tax bill 258 00:15:59,291 --> 00:16:01,835 and add a lien on the property if they don't pay it. 259 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:04,296 If he just cuts that out, you know, 260 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:07,591 that'll go up for auction for, like, $500,000, easy. 261 00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:09,301 No doubt, it'll sell, 262 00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:12,388 and, you know, it was painted over. 263 00:16:12,471 --> 00:16:15,349 Under the threat of fines to the building owners, 264 00:16:15,432 --> 00:16:17,810 the building owners painted over it. 265 00:16:17,893 --> 00:16:22,231 Anything on street level got tagged over by the graffiti artists, the taggers. 266 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:27,820 It's been painted over. It's been tagged. This one is basically destroyed. 267 00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:32,366 So, yeah. Basically as fast as it went up, it came down. 268 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:47,840 It's a huge thing for San Francisco to have these Banksy paintings, 269 00:16:47,923 --> 00:16:51,093 but he'll do one, and within a couple of days 270 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:54,638 somebody's painted over it, tagged over it, and it's gone. 271 00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:56,807 [narrator] San Francisco resident Brian Greif 272 00:16:56,890 --> 00:17:00,102 watched the paintings disappear one by one 273 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,813 and decided to do something about it. 274 00:17:02,896 --> 00:17:07,735 His plan-- remove a painting and donate it to a museum. 275 00:17:07,818 --> 00:17:10,821 I just want to save at least one of them 276 00:17:10,904 --> 00:17:14,241 so the city can enjoy it for more than 48 hours. 277 00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:18,287 I would say 99.5% of everything I've painted... 278 00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:23,250 in-- within the context of graffiti in the last 25 years is gone. 279 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:24,918 It no longer exists. 280 00:17:25,002 --> 00:17:29,089 Our art is developed with this attitude in mind, 281 00:17:29,173 --> 00:17:30,632 that it's not gonna last 282 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:32,593 and it's never gonna exist forever. 283 00:17:32,676 --> 00:17:34,511 [Everlast] ♪ I get by ♪ 284 00:17:34,595 --> 00:17:35,929 ♪ Got it good ♪ 285 00:17:37,806 --> 00:17:40,309 ♪ I barely get by ♪ 286 00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:42,186 ♪ Got it good ♪ 287 00:17:43,604 --> 00:17:45,564 ♪ I barely get by ♪ 288 00:17:45,647 --> 00:17:47,399 ♪ I stay a little high ♪ 289 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:49,068 ♪ I ain't gonna lie ♪ 290 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:51,570 ♪ I barely get by ♪ 291 00:17:51,653 --> 00:17:52,821 ♪ Stay a little high ♪ 292 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,615 ♪ I ain't gonna lie ♪ 293 00:17:54,698 --> 00:17:55,741 ♪ Got it good ♪ 294 00:17:55,824 --> 00:17:57,367 This is the one I wanted to save. 295 00:17:57,451 --> 00:18:00,454 You can see the walls-- The wall's been painted over. 296 00:18:00,537 --> 00:18:03,874 It's this white wall right here. 297 00:18:05,209 --> 00:18:08,879 It was the one that said, "This'll look nice when it's framed." 298 00:18:08,962 --> 00:18:11,924 I still get emails to this day asking if this piece is up, 299 00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:14,760 because this is a spectacular Banksy. 300 00:18:14,843 --> 00:18:18,388 That's where that Banksy was, that white wall right there, 301 00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:20,432 and that one, it's gone already. 302 00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:24,103 [narrator] Banksy left one final gift 303 00:18:24,186 --> 00:18:26,480 in the historic Haight-Ashbury neighborhood, 304 00:18:26,563 --> 00:18:30,359 a massive painting extending across two buildings. 305 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:33,862 One on side, a six-foot-tall rat. 306 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:36,698 On the other, a message to the city. 307 00:18:37,574 --> 00:18:41,370 Apparently, up here on a wall-- Yep, it's up there. 308 00:18:42,496 --> 00:18:47,251 It's still there. There's a Banksy rat on siding that I can get down, 309 00:18:47,334 --> 00:18:51,421 so I'm gonna go try and see if I can get permission to get that done. 310 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:54,383 On one city block you see-- up above, you see, 311 00:18:54,466 --> 00:18:57,845 "This is where I draw the line," and then you have you know, 312 00:18:57,928 --> 00:19:01,890 one of Banksy's rats finishing it on the other side of the building. 313 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:08,063 The rat is one of Banksy's most iconic images. 314 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:13,652 [narrator] Banksy has an army of rats rallied all over the world. 315 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:18,448 I don't know, why the rat? 316 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:21,910 They're cheeky, funny, 317 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:26,039 nasty, smelly, little things, 318 00:19:26,123 --> 00:19:28,250 a bit like graffiti artists, 319 00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:29,793 a bit like street artists. 320 00:19:35,215 --> 00:19:37,801 Uh, okay. I just talked to them. 321 00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:39,428 The rat's still there. 322 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:43,807 It's on redwood siding, so hopefully it can be taken down. 323 00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:47,311 The owner is incensed. 324 00:19:47,394 --> 00:19:49,146 That building is her baby. 325 00:19:49,229 --> 00:19:52,316 She's owned it since, you know, the late '70s. 326 00:19:52,399 --> 00:19:54,109 It's her pride and joy, 327 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:58,071 and she's preparing to paint over the rat. 328 00:19:58,155 --> 00:20:00,824 And I just convinced them not to paint over it. 329 00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:03,911 I told them that I want to try and save it, and I'll work with them, 330 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:05,412 so they've agreed to hold off. 331 00:20:05,495 --> 00:20:06,997 They're not gonna paint over it. 332 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,210 Hopefully I can get a deal done soon before they paint over it 333 00:20:11,293 --> 00:20:12,961 or the city comes in and paints over it 334 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:14,922 or it gets destroyed like the rest of them. 335 00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:16,757 Have you ever heard of an artist named Banksy? 336 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,551 Yes, we have. Wow, that's-- right there. 337 00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:22,596 Oh, that's a Banksy? That's certainly not graffiti, then. 338 00:20:22,679 --> 00:20:24,514 I mean, it's a respected artist. 339 00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:26,683 If you cut that out and you put that on eBay, 340 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,353 it's worth about $10,000, I mean, I'd say keep it. 341 00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:40,155 Negotiations with the building owner began in May, 342 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:43,659 and will take months of tedious back and forth to complete. 343 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,411 The owner of the building is so upset 344 00:20:46,495 --> 00:20:49,456 that Banksy painted the rat on her building, she won't talk to me. 345 00:20:49,539 --> 00:20:51,083 She wants me to talk to her manager, 346 00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:53,543 and the problem is he won't return phone calls or emails, 347 00:20:53,627 --> 00:20:55,545 so I'm already kind of at a standstill. 348 00:20:56,213 --> 00:20:58,215 Yeah, from what I understand of the story, 349 00:20:58,298 --> 00:20:59,800 it was a long... 350 00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:02,135 They're worried that I might damage the building... 351 00:21:02,219 --> 00:21:04,888 -...painful... -They're worried about the reaction 352 00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:07,557 -from the community... -...drawn-out operation. 353 00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:09,476 They want to sell it. 354 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:11,144 It's clear now they're trying to sell it. 355 00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:13,230 [keystrokes clacking] 356 00:21:16,441 --> 00:21:19,111 They think they can take it down and sell it on eBay, 357 00:21:19,194 --> 00:21:22,155 and I'm trying to talk them out of that. 358 00:21:22,239 --> 00:21:25,033 [Eine] You know, Banksy gave these people a gift... 359 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:33,125 and everyone involved in the project 360 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:35,210 that actually doesn't even care about the art... 361 00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:41,425 just sees an opportunity to make some money. 362 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,761 The problem now is the city keeps sending the building owner 363 00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:46,888 these letters threatening to fine her 364 00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:48,765 if she doesn't take the painting down. 365 00:21:48,849 --> 00:21:52,352 They're actually threatening to remove the graffiti themselves 366 00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,604 if she doesn't remove it within 30 days. 367 00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:58,025 [narrator] As time ticked by, 368 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:00,736 the rat was in constant danger. 369 00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:04,114 So, you can see somebody got up on the roof last night 370 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:05,699 and tagged over the words. 371 00:22:05,782 --> 00:22:07,492 Thankfully, the rat's still in one piece. 372 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,077 They didn't mess with the rat. 373 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,163 I'm gonna have to focus on getting the rat down. 374 00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,081 This is just getting too complicated. 375 00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:16,793 [narrator] August, the deal changes once again. 376 00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:18,962 My original deal with them months ago 377 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:21,214 was I would take the rat off this side of the building, 378 00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:24,009 I would repair damage to the wall on that side of the building, 379 00:22:24,092 --> 00:22:25,510 and give them a cash donation. 380 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:26,762 Now the deal's changed. 381 00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:28,930 They still want everything on that side of the wall, 382 00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:30,474 they still want the cash donation, 383 00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:33,185 but now they want me to repair damage on the other side of the building, 384 00:22:33,268 --> 00:22:37,939 so we're talking new fees for materials, carpentry, scaffolding, 385 00:22:38,023 --> 00:22:41,318 lead paint abatement, permits, legal fees... 386 00:22:41,401 --> 00:22:42,903 October. 387 00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:45,238 Gonna cut straight up and take this whole 16"... 388 00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:50,786 Experts were brought in to figure out the best way to remove the painting. 389 00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:52,120 ...go easily back. 390 00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:55,665 Then the cost kept on escalating. 391 00:22:55,749 --> 00:22:57,459 [man on phone] Thanks. Bye-bye. 392 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:00,670 So, that's a voicemail that I just got 393 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:02,714 from the guy that owns the building next door 394 00:23:02,798 --> 00:23:04,716 to the Red Victorian Inn where the rat is. 395 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,885 We need access to the roof of his building 396 00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:09,054 to get scaffolding up to take the rat down, 397 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:11,264 and he's found out who Banksy is now, 398 00:23:11,348 --> 00:23:14,684 and he wants $5,000 for access to his roof. 399 00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:19,272 November. The building owner has one final request 400 00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:21,525 before the rat could be removed. 401 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:23,985 We finally have an agreement, 402 00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:28,532 and the last part of the agreement is she holds a two-hour discussion 403 00:23:28,615 --> 00:23:31,785 at the Red Vic every Sunday morning about world peace, 404 00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:33,870 and before she'll sign the contract 405 00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:37,207 I have to go to the two-hour world peace discussion at the Red Vic. 406 00:23:45,715 --> 00:23:47,342 [Greif] I don't need all of that at the bottom... 407 00:23:47,425 --> 00:23:48,426 [phone ringing] 408 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,220 ...where that last piece of siding is. 409 00:23:50,303 --> 00:23:52,848 I just want the painting from here on up. 410 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,975 Oh, awesome, that helps us quite a bit. 411 00:23:55,058 --> 00:23:57,060 Any, if there's-- any of that wood... 412 00:23:59,521 --> 00:24:00,522 All right. 413 00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:04,442 Well, it's a Banksy. 414 00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:08,321 It's bringing a lot of attention to street art, 415 00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:10,365 and street artists in general, all across the world. 416 00:24:10,448 --> 00:24:12,742 That's, I think the goal for a lot of street artists, 417 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:16,246 is they want to engage with more people, 418 00:24:16,329 --> 00:24:18,123 connect with more people through their art. 419 00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:20,125 They don't want to limit themselves to a gallery, 420 00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:21,418 and the fact that it's free. 421 00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:24,045 You know, well... 422 00:24:25,213 --> 00:24:28,550 This location in particular is-- It's just so damn high. 423 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,177 You're like, "How did he get up there?" 424 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:31,511 You can see the roof here, 425 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,597 they think he might've stayed in one of the rooms, 426 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,640 and accessed through one of these fire escapes 427 00:24:35,724 --> 00:24:37,100 and came up this ladder. 428 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:40,437 But we're two stories up above Haight Street in San Francisco, 429 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,148 and it's not easy to get up here. 430 00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:48,153 He got on the roof and came down here. 431 00:24:48,236 --> 00:24:52,199 They're working right now to begin taking the painting down. 432 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,911 And there's the rat, looking down on Haight Street. 433 00:24:57,037 --> 00:24:59,539 [man] I guess we're officially starting. 434 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:03,627 [Greif] The scoring is the part that concerns me the most. 435 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:05,420 [man] So, that's what he's doing right now. 436 00:25:05,503 --> 00:25:07,464 [Greif] That's what he's doing right now with the knife. 437 00:25:07,547 --> 00:25:10,550 He's scoring, he's trying to cut the overlapping paint, 438 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:11,927 the hundred years of paint, 439 00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:15,972 so we can take each piece of siding off cleanly. 440 00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:18,350 This is where we have to be careful, though. 441 00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:22,604 Take care not to keep from peeling the paint. 442 00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:24,731 [Greif] They can scratch the painting. 443 00:25:24,814 --> 00:25:27,817 Big pieces of paint will come off. 444 00:25:27,901 --> 00:25:30,779 And I hope I didn't spend an awful lot of money 445 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:34,532 on a bunch of worthless hundred-year-old redwood siding. 446 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,701 This is the hardest part right here, huh? 447 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:39,079 Uh, I don't know. [chuckles] 448 00:25:39,162 --> 00:25:40,872 I hope so! 449 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:41,998 [saw whirring] 450 00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:53,677 The second most dangerous part is actually then, 451 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,887 we're gonna take each piece of siding down 452 00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:57,847 and cut the nails off from behind. 453 00:25:57,931 --> 00:25:59,933 So, we have to pry it, get each piece loose, 454 00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,227 and then they're gonna cut the nails from behind 455 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,688 so each piece will come off without nail pops 456 00:26:04,771 --> 00:26:06,982 and without damage to the front. 457 00:26:07,065 --> 00:26:08,984 [man] Relief? [chuckles] 458 00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:10,485 Not-- No, not yet. 459 00:26:10,568 --> 00:26:11,861 Not yet? 460 00:26:11,945 --> 00:26:14,072 Nowhere near relief yet. 461 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:17,075 ...worry about the painting. 462 00:26:17,158 --> 00:26:18,952 It's a little bit easier. 463 00:26:19,953 --> 00:26:20,912 -So... -Here. 464 00:26:20,996 --> 00:26:24,791 But we've got about three feet of crawlspace there, 465 00:26:24,874 --> 00:26:26,668 so I can crawl back in there and cut from behind. 466 00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:29,921 ...cut from behind, so this is-- this is good, yeah. 467 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:41,141 You're good. 468 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,021 All right, here you go, Brian. 469 00:26:50,317 --> 00:26:52,319 I don't think it could've gone any better. 470 00:26:52,402 --> 00:26:54,321 First major piece is now off. 471 00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:55,947 From here they got room to move, 472 00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:58,450 room to saw the nails off from behind. 473 00:26:59,743 --> 00:27:00,994 So far, so good. 474 00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:13,923 You want me to try cutting... 475 00:27:14,924 --> 00:27:18,678 All right. Again, I don't think it could've gone any better. 476 00:27:19,804 --> 00:27:22,140 -Perfect. -You want me to try cutting that... 477 00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:23,808 The rat's face! 478 00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:25,435 Critical part. 479 00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:34,444 Last piece. 480 00:27:34,527 --> 00:27:36,404 -Yeah! -All right. 481 00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:37,489 It goes. 482 00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,368 -Is that it? -Yep, that's it. 483 00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:52,796 That's it. That's what the Banksy looks like when it's not on the wall. 484 00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:54,672 Everything is all wrapped and ready to go. 485 00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:56,591 We just need to find somebody to restore it 486 00:27:56,674 --> 00:27:58,093 and find a museum to put it in. 487 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:07,018 [indistinct chatter] 488 00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:16,486 [Romanowski feat. Danny Cao] ♪ You leave your home for days and daze ♪ 489 00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:20,281 A painting by controversial British graffiti artist Banksy 490 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,785 has been removed from a building on Haight Street in San Francisco. 491 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:26,871 The building's owner received a notice from the city 492 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:30,959 to remove that Banksy artwork under the city's anti-graffiti ordinance. 493 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:33,795 So, instead of painting over the piece, the owner of the building 494 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:36,005 made arrangements with an art collector 495 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:37,757 who plans to restore the painting 496 00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:41,386 and offer it to a museum for public display. 497 00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:46,933 [Greif] The painting is down. It's all wrapped. 498 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:49,894 It's in safe storage, if you consider the closet 499 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,355 in my one-bedroom apartment safe storage. 500 00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:53,898 That's where I'm keeping it. 501 00:28:55,859 --> 00:28:59,571 [Eine] As soon as word got out the rat on Haight-Ashbury was being removed, 502 00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,573 offers from around the world started coming in, 503 00:29:01,656 --> 00:29:03,908 and there were numerous offers 504 00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:05,702 for numerous amounts of money. 505 00:29:05,785 --> 00:29:10,290 I've gotten even faxes from art dealers, 506 00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:12,208 consignment agreements, 507 00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:14,502 offering to pay me over $100,000, 508 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:17,005 $200,000 in one case. 509 00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:18,548 I'm not gonna back down. 510 00:29:18,631 --> 00:29:22,594 My goal is to find a place to put this where the public can enjoy it. 511 00:29:22,677 --> 00:29:26,473 Eventually, a meeting was arranged with John Zarobell 512 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:29,684 from the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art 513 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,853 about preserving the piece, 514 00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:34,230 about the piece going into their collection. 515 00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:38,651 Okay, we're pulling up to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art 516 00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:41,988 and talked to them about donating the Banksy. 517 00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:45,492 They've said that they're interested in taking the Banksy from me, 518 00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:48,077 so this is SF MOMA right here. 519 00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,463 [John Zarobell] We touch on a lot of different worlds of art, 520 00:29:58,546 --> 00:30:01,174 and many curators are involved in many different domains. 521 00:30:01,257 --> 00:30:04,052 So, when someone like Banksy comes, 522 00:30:04,135 --> 00:30:05,595 that is-- that's got star power 523 00:30:05,678 --> 00:30:07,597 in a totally different artistic domain, 524 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,183 um, that maybe we're not the most attentive to. 525 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:14,145 You know, seeing this, it's funny because here he blends, 526 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:18,107 A) the stencil, B) the loose lettering, 527 00:30:18,191 --> 00:30:20,652 you know, just sort of writing with the spray paint, 528 00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:24,322 and then, C) the throwing the paint on the wall, alá Jackson Pollack. 529 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:27,492 There's this level of street art, perhaps teenagers with spray paint, 530 00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:29,911 and then there's his, which is actually, you know, 531 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,872 a pretty developed pictorial effect. It's, you know, two-tone. 532 00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:36,292 He's figuring out how to use the stencil and make it into a complex-- 533 00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:37,710 actually, three-tone piece. 534 00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:41,172 I mean, this is a pretty complex piece of stencil. 535 00:30:42,298 --> 00:30:45,718 You know, this is a very sort of rudimentary piece of street art, 536 00:30:45,802 --> 00:30:47,345 but it's an antiquated idea, right? 537 00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:49,722 This is sort of love and peace. 538 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,225 Now, this is actually in the Haight. 539 00:30:52,308 --> 00:30:54,936 It's sort of Banksy's iconic rat. 540 00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:58,189 Oh, yeah. With the little star cap on, right. 541 00:30:58,273 --> 00:31:01,818 So, he's the Socialist rat. [laughs] 542 00:31:01,901 --> 00:31:03,361 -I took it down. -Mm. 543 00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:05,154 Which is very controversial. 544 00:31:05,238 --> 00:31:09,409 I had an offer last week from, uh, an art dealer in LA. 545 00:31:09,492 --> 00:31:11,494 -Right. -He offered me $200,000. 546 00:31:11,578 --> 00:31:13,037 Oh, my gosh. 547 00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:15,790 I took that down not to sell it, but I'm taking it down 548 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:19,961 in the hopes that I can donate it somewhere so it is on public display. 549 00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:23,172 -Right. -So, in my original email to-- 550 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,425 -to, I think it was to Peter Denny... -Mm-hmm. 551 00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:29,012 ...was would you be interested if I donated this piece. 552 00:31:29,095 --> 00:31:32,432 Is it something that SF MOMA would be interested in? 553 00:31:32,515 --> 00:31:33,766 -Well, I mean-- -As a donation. 554 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:35,977 That's a really good question, because as I said, 555 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:37,896 we have worked with artists who've done this, 556 00:31:37,979 --> 00:31:40,440 and for us to figure out what our limits are 557 00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:44,402 and how we understand what our collection policies are, 558 00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:46,905 this is something that's constantly expanding and changing. 559 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:48,948 [woman] I'm actually gonna interrupt here 560 00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:51,576 and say, yeah, I think we can stop this lying. 561 00:31:51,659 --> 00:31:54,829 Um, is the camera off? 562 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:05,924 They stopped the conversation and basically ushered us out. 563 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:10,011 And I got an email from John Zarobell today that says, 564 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:12,847 [reading] 565 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:16,726 "I just brought up the possible Banksy donation to our department head meeting, 566 00:32:16,809 --> 00:32:18,895 and there are a couple of things we'd like to know. 567 00:32:18,978 --> 00:32:21,731 [reading] 568 00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:24,901 And, he says... 569 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:33,117 Well, Banksy can't sign off on it for a number of different reasons. 570 00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:36,621 He doesn't authenticate his street pieces because people are taking them down 571 00:32:36,704 --> 00:32:39,457 and selling them at auction for huge amounts of money, 572 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:42,335 and then the other issue with Banksy is a legal issue. 573 00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:47,548 If he signs a letter of authentication, he's admitting to a crime, 574 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:49,842 since he doesn't get permission from the building owners 575 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:51,427 to go up and paint on their buildings. 576 00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:57,016 These institutions are being offered the chance to own a Banksy for nothing, 577 00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,979 no strings attached, and they want to attach strings to it, 578 00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:03,564 and they want to say no. 579 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,066 I think, at the end of the day, 580 00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:09,070 it's just the old guard trying to maintain their real estate 581 00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:11,614 and hold on as long as they can. 582 00:33:11,698 --> 00:33:15,994 People would like to see it. It's, you know, it's exciting. 583 00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:18,788 It blows everything else out of the water. 584 00:33:18,871 --> 00:33:21,708 But, you know, it's run by old people, and they don't enjoy it. 585 00:33:21,791 --> 00:33:26,838 [man] I just got an email back from my contact over in Banksy's operation. 586 00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:28,339 It seems kind of upbeat. 587 00:33:28,423 --> 00:33:32,093 I would just talk to your MOMA person and tell them to be on the lookout 588 00:33:32,176 --> 00:33:35,722 for an email in from, um, it's gonna be Pest Control. 589 00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:38,182 That's Banksy's little operation over there. 590 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:40,351 I'll talk to you later. All right, bye-bye. 591 00:33:41,477 --> 00:33:44,939 So, that's a friend that has contacts with Banksy's people. 592 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,358 I asked him to call and see if we could get something 593 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:49,402 so we could get this in SF MOMA, 594 00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:52,071 and as you heard on the call, he sounds optimistic. 595 00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:03,875 Some artists make work for... 596 00:34:03,958 --> 00:34:05,209 to be destroyed, right? 597 00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:06,794 They don't want the art to survive. 598 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:07,879 And if that's the case, 599 00:34:07,962 --> 00:34:09,255 it's not the museum's business 600 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:12,258 to preserve it against the wishes of the artist. 601 00:34:12,341 --> 00:34:15,344 [man] Again, you were looking for some sort of document 602 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:17,346 or letter or something from Banksy 603 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:19,724 that said, "I want this in the museum." 604 00:34:19,807 --> 00:34:23,061 That, and also, of course, to say, "Yes, this is my work." 605 00:34:23,144 --> 00:34:25,980 And with street art, obviously, that's the kind of issue that it wouldn't be 606 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,899 if you were buying a work of art from a dealer. 607 00:34:27,982 --> 00:34:31,110 The museum wouldn't accept it unless they had a document 608 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:34,989 from Banksy's people saying it was a real Banksy. 609 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,409 [Cuffe] For all you San Franciscans that are wondering 610 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,203 if these were authentic Banksies, 611 00:34:40,286 --> 00:34:43,623 you come to his site, go on his Outdoor section. 612 00:34:43,706 --> 00:34:45,833 Chinatown piece. 613 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,794 This is how he authenticates it. 614 00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:48,920 Puts up a picture. 615 00:34:49,003 --> 00:34:51,631 This is the piece on Mission, the bird and the tree. 616 00:34:51,714 --> 00:34:54,342 Here you have the piece on Sycamore. 617 00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:57,428 This is the piece on Valencia. 618 00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:02,141 This is the piece at the Regency Ballroom, in the alley. 619 00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:06,521 The beginning of the piece on the Haight, "This is where I draw the line." 620 00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:10,233 And then you have, you know, one of Banksy's rats 621 00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,235 finishing it on the other side of the building. 622 00:35:12,318 --> 00:35:13,778 [Zarobell] We don't want to do something 623 00:35:13,861 --> 00:35:15,988 that the artist doesn't feel is appropriate, right? 624 00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:19,742 If a work of art is made for a public venue to be out in public, 625 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:22,245 then perhaps the artist doesn't want to see it in a museum. 626 00:35:22,328 --> 00:35:25,331 Graffiti, street art, it scares them. 627 00:35:25,414 --> 00:35:27,500 You know, if they had any idea, 628 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:29,293 they would be buying it now, 629 00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:31,796 snapping it up, and putting it in their collection. 630 00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:35,341 Graffiti to them is so new, they don't know good and bad. 631 00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:37,844 You know, they don't know the difference between this kid, 632 00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:40,555 this little kid that's picked up a spray can for the first time 633 00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:43,432 and this guy that's been doing it for 20, 30 years. 634 00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:45,768 To them, they don't know the difference. 635 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:48,896 There are too many people in this world you can make happy with this, 636 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:53,234 to-- to worry about those who don't appreciate it, so... 637 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:55,611 We'll just go where people like us. 638 00:35:55,695 --> 00:36:02,243 The question is when are we gonna be recognized by the people in power? 639 00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:04,412 I don't know when it's gonna be. 640 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:06,247 Maybe in ten years, 20 years. 641 00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:08,499 Maybe when old people... 642 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:14,672 Maybe when the movement will be finished, I don't know. 643 00:36:14,755 --> 00:36:16,966 It's a very difficult question. 644 00:36:17,049 --> 00:36:19,510 Three modern museums were offered the painting. 645 00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:22,763 None of them were interested in taking it unless there was 646 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,892 a document from Banksy's people saying it was a real Banksy, 647 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,518 although it obviously was. 648 00:36:35,067 --> 00:36:37,695 [narrator] The museums weren't interested. 649 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:41,115 But other people were. 650 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,534 I think the ones on concrete, they are very powerful. 651 00:36:43,618 --> 00:36:48,331 Stephan Keszler is one of the world's leading dealers of Banksy street pieces. 652 00:36:48,414 --> 00:36:53,044 He sells Banksy paintings, but without the artist's permission. 653 00:36:53,127 --> 00:36:57,256 In the street art world, he's considered a shyster, a villain. 654 00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:02,220 Himself, he considers himself to be Banksy's biggest fan. 655 00:37:03,804 --> 00:37:06,265 In my opinion, there's nothing more beautiful 656 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,142 to, uh, see... 657 00:37:09,852 --> 00:37:11,812 original Banksy street works, 658 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:14,190 because they're really amazing. 659 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:17,902 All over the world, these paintings were removed. 660 00:37:17,985 --> 00:37:21,656 They wind up in auction, and they go for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 661 00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:23,699 [man] Is that Banksy? 662 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,494 -Banksy. -It is? 663 00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:28,120 [Friedman] People make art, they make it in context. 664 00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:30,039 There's a reason that they're doing it, right? 665 00:37:30,122 --> 00:37:32,250 And for someone to buy art taken out of context 666 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:33,668 or taken off of a wall 667 00:37:33,751 --> 00:37:36,671 or, you know, appropriated without the artist's permission, 668 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:39,340 I mean, why are you doing that, for a fucking investment? 669 00:37:39,423 --> 00:37:42,093 What I do if I take a piece of art 670 00:37:42,176 --> 00:37:46,138 that kids could profit from by looking at it 671 00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:51,018 and I turn it into this good that just benefits myself, 672 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,854 it's really depriving my neighborhood children 673 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,398 of seeing something beautiful. 674 00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:58,359 We have an expertise how to handle these pieces, 675 00:37:58,442 --> 00:38:01,279 how to get them from the wall, how to help them. 676 00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:03,739 We will never taken them personally from the wall, 677 00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:07,868 but I think it's better to take them from the wall than-- 678 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:09,912 from a house wall or a garage-- 679 00:38:09,996 --> 00:38:12,456 than to have white paint over them 680 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,542 because then they are gone forever. 681 00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:16,127 I just think it's self-serving. 682 00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:19,005 It's pretty selfish for a person to take something off 683 00:38:19,088 --> 00:38:23,592 that is actually, like, there for the public to enjoy or hate, 684 00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:25,553 but it's still there for the public. 685 00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:30,391 Yeah, you know, you know, we paint stuff on the street. 686 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:32,310 That's where it belongs. 687 00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:35,271 Some of these works are massive, 688 00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:38,190 and, you know, weigh thousands of pounds. 689 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:41,319 Yeah, you know, they're cut out from fucking brick walls, 690 00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:44,780 concrete walls, jackhammers, diamond-tipped saws, 691 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,615 packaged up, stored, 692 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:49,827 and then six months later wind up in an auction house, 693 00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:53,372 and that's not where they're meant to be. 694 00:38:53,456 --> 00:38:59,211 His work is selling very well at auctions for millions. 695 00:38:59,295 --> 00:39:06,052 His work is collected at very high-end collectors. 696 00:39:06,135 --> 00:39:10,389 You know, we make stuff in our studios, and this is the stuff we sign, 697 00:39:10,473 --> 00:39:11,640 this is the stuff we sell, 698 00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:15,936 this is the stuff that we want to represent us in the future. 699 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:19,273 This is the stuff that, if it turns up in auction, 700 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:21,776 you know, we're proud for it to be there. 701 00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:24,904 The stuff we paint on the street isn't that. 702 00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:27,239 -[siren wailing] -You know, it's for the people, 703 00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:30,368 it's for fun, it's for adventure, 704 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:31,994 it's for adrenaline. 705 00:39:32,078 --> 00:39:33,829 It's not to turn up in auction. 706 00:39:33,913 --> 00:39:37,041 I do all kinds of artwork, but there's a lot of stuff I don't want in a gallery. 707 00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:38,751 It's not meant to be in a gallery. 708 00:39:38,834 --> 00:39:40,753 It's not meant to be in an auction. 709 00:39:40,836 --> 00:39:42,671 You know, at least give me the right to say 710 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:45,174 what's gonna be in a gallery or be at an auction. 711 00:39:45,257 --> 00:39:48,052 You can hate my stuff, you can love my stuff, you can steal my stuff. 712 00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:51,138 Give me the right to say what I want to sell or not sell. 713 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:53,808 [Eine] I never sign the stuff that I paint in the street. 714 00:39:53,891 --> 00:39:58,562 Everything I've ever painted in the street as the artist "Ben Eine," 715 00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:00,231 I never put my tag to it. 716 00:40:00,856 --> 00:40:03,818 You know, I don't want that stuff turning up at auction. 717 00:40:03,901 --> 00:40:07,363 [narrator] Banksy has condemned the sale of his public works, 718 00:40:07,446 --> 00:40:10,908 but Keszler says he's doing Banksy a favor. 719 00:40:10,991 --> 00:40:17,415 I think if Banksy is honest to himself sometimes, 720 00:40:17,498 --> 00:40:20,835 when he goes to bed and he doesn't have to do his PR, 721 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:25,673 I think, in a way, he's thankful that we do this. 722 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,763 Keszler was organizing a controversial exhibit 723 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:35,182 at the world's largest art fair in Miami... 724 00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:40,855 an exhibit showcasing four Banksy street pieces, 725 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:43,274 all without the artist's permission. 726 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:49,113 We acquiring more Banksy street works, 727 00:40:49,196 --> 00:40:51,449 and the other thing is, 728 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:54,743 uh, we would like to show this, as I said before, 729 00:40:54,827 --> 00:40:57,413 to as many people in the world as possible. 730 00:40:57,496 --> 00:41:00,207 You know, this isn't a Banksy show. 731 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:04,336 It's a show of his work taken from the street. 732 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:08,841 You know, newspeople from all around the world were interested. 733 00:41:08,924 --> 00:41:10,593 It was extremely controversial. 734 00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:13,721 [narrator] Keszler claimed after the exhibit 735 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:14,972 some of his Banksy pieces 736 00:41:15,055 --> 00:41:17,057 would be donated to a museum. 737 00:41:17,558 --> 00:41:20,144 Our goal would be, or is, 738 00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:23,647 that maybe when people see these works 739 00:41:23,731 --> 00:41:27,067 and talk about these works at this high-end venue 740 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:31,989 that we can make a deal with some of the museums, 741 00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:33,741 better museums in the world, 742 00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:37,578 and we would love to give those works to museums 743 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,455 to show to more people. 744 00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:43,292 So, I just got this email from Stephan Keszler's gallery, 745 00:41:43,375 --> 00:41:45,544 -and it says... -Desperate to find a home for the rat... 746 00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:48,881 [reading] 747 00:41:48,964 --> 00:41:52,551 ...Brian called Keszler to discuss museums. 748 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:55,513 [Greif] My original intent was to take it down and donate it 749 00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:58,390 to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. 750 00:41:58,474 --> 00:42:00,893 Yeah, you see, everybody's afraid 751 00:42:00,976 --> 00:42:04,438 to do certain things which Banksy doesn't want, 752 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:09,485 and Banksy doesn't want to do this because then if he says to one museum, 753 00:42:09,568 --> 00:42:13,405 "Okay, you get a street piece and I authenticate it," right, 754 00:42:13,489 --> 00:42:15,366 then he made an exception of the exception, 755 00:42:15,449 --> 00:42:17,326 and then his whole... 756 00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:21,038 uh, story about being... 757 00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:24,959 not happy about this falls apart. 758 00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:26,710 But one day, it will happen. 759 00:42:26,794 --> 00:42:29,713 And one day it will happen if a museum, 760 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:32,841 let's say like the Museum of Modern Art, or whatever San Fra-- 761 00:42:32,925 --> 00:42:34,885 If they would have balls, they would say, 762 00:42:34,969 --> 00:42:37,680 "It's a real Banksy, so we show it." 763 00:42:37,763 --> 00:42:40,474 Keszler wanted the Banksy rat, yeah. 764 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,102 At this time, he had a lot of Banksy pieces, 765 00:42:43,185 --> 00:42:47,773 all removed from the street, and he wanted that in his show. 766 00:42:47,856 --> 00:42:50,192 And is it in good condition? 767 00:42:50,276 --> 00:42:51,485 Uh, yeah. 768 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,237 So, do you want to-- 769 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,032 Do you want to have it when we show it in Miami? 770 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,578 Where are you going to show in Miami? 771 00:43:00,661 --> 00:43:01,745 Sorry? 772 00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:04,081 Uh, potentially. 773 00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:05,916 Would you be interested? 774 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,379 One of the provisions for Miami allowing the show to go on 775 00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,756 was none of these pieces were for sale. 776 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,511 He also told me that after the show there's a potential museum in Miami 777 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:19,722 that wants to take some of the works, 778 00:43:19,805 --> 00:43:23,309 and if this is a way for me to get my piece in a museum, 779 00:43:23,392 --> 00:43:26,145 even if it's in Miami, I'm all for it. 780 00:43:26,979 --> 00:43:30,858 [narrator] Four weeks later, the rat was removed from the bedroom closet 781 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:33,569 and prepped for Miami. 782 00:43:33,652 --> 00:43:36,363 Yeah, so, you know, this rat, 783 00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:39,491 which isn't a small rat, it's pretty big... 784 00:43:39,575 --> 00:43:43,245 One last piece. It's the top of the rat's hat. 785 00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:48,208 Yeah, it was stored in the closet of a, yeah, this dude's apartment for two years. 786 00:43:49,209 --> 00:43:53,297 And, yeah, it's, like I say, it's not a small rat. 787 00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:55,299 It's a big rat. 788 00:43:55,382 --> 00:43:58,302 Since it was taken down, I haven't seen it all put together, 789 00:43:58,385 --> 00:44:02,389 so I'm anxious to see how it held up in my closet, 790 00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:05,726 wrapped in old blankets and sheets for two years. 791 00:44:06,352 --> 00:44:08,812 So, hopefully somebody after Miami wants it. 792 00:44:10,898 --> 00:44:12,858 Because I'd hate to have to put it back in the closet. 793 00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:40,302 [Eine] Miami... December... 794 00:44:40,386 --> 00:44:46,308 Wynwood is the biggest art wank in the world ever. 795 00:44:46,392 --> 00:44:49,144 It's insane. 796 00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:58,487 Whoo! 797 00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:59,571 Miami Art Battle was great. 798 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:03,826 It brought together so many people, so many different forms of art. 799 00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:07,704 Such a young generation flocked there and gave us so much energy. 800 00:45:07,788 --> 00:45:09,623 [dance music playing] 801 00:45:09,706 --> 00:45:10,958 ♪ Watch me now ♪ 802 00:45:11,875 --> 00:45:13,752 [man calling out] 803 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:18,090 [Eine] Every street artist from every country is there, 804 00:45:18,173 --> 00:45:20,884 scrambling and fighting to paint walls. 805 00:45:20,968 --> 00:45:23,137 No one's getting paid. 806 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,180 Everything gets repainted. 807 00:45:25,264 --> 00:45:27,766 Everything is new, fresh, and exciting. 808 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:31,228 And then, on top of that, you have the money, 809 00:45:31,311 --> 00:45:34,898 the art fans, the dealers selling stuff. 810 00:45:34,982 --> 00:45:37,609 Yeah, it's insane. 811 00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:40,612 It's borderline schizophrenia, actually. 812 00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:41,947 [train horn honks] 813 00:45:43,031 --> 00:45:48,036 It's the poor street kids and the multibillionaires. 814 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,373 And we're doing everything for nothing. 815 00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:56,003 And they're walking home with Banksies for a million dollars. 816 00:45:57,379 --> 00:45:59,214 So, I'm actually kind of stressed right now 817 00:45:59,298 --> 00:46:00,799 because I got a call 40 minutes ago. 818 00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:02,968 The rat has arrived in Miami early, 819 00:46:03,051 --> 00:46:06,597 and it's actually inside the Art Miami complex already. 820 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,849 Uh, they've opened the crate. 821 00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:12,102 They're in the process of unpacking the piece, 822 00:46:12,186 --> 00:46:14,521 and I want to be inside for the installation. 823 00:46:16,773 --> 00:46:19,818 I don't even know where to go. This complex is so huge. 824 00:46:19,902 --> 00:46:24,865 It's an entire city block of white tent after white tent, 825 00:46:24,948 --> 00:46:27,951 and in a couple of days all these tents are gonna be filled 826 00:46:28,035 --> 00:46:30,245 with high-end art from all over the world. 827 00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:34,958 Two years to the day from, uh, the Banksy rat 828 00:46:35,042 --> 00:46:37,336 on Haight Ashbury finally coming down, 829 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:40,422 two years to that exact day it was reassembled 830 00:46:40,506 --> 00:46:43,634 and put on display in Miami. 831 00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:56,271 [narrator] The Banksy exhibit drew huge crowds. 832 00:46:56,355 --> 00:47:00,275 So, this is a not-for-sale Banksy show 833 00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:07,115 at Art Miami, and the people's reaction is exactly what I thought will be. 834 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,910 People are excited about the works. 835 00:47:09,993 --> 00:47:12,454 They're standing in line, they're writing about this, 836 00:47:12,538 --> 00:47:17,209 and it gives us proof that what we did 837 00:47:17,292 --> 00:47:20,879 with the works that would've been destroyed at the original locations 838 00:47:20,963 --> 00:47:26,718 are very loved by dealers, lovers, and art connoisseurs. 839 00:47:26,802 --> 00:47:28,637 So, this is the proof for us 840 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:32,641 that it was right what we did and what we are doing. 841 00:47:32,724 --> 00:47:34,685 It was all over the news. 842 00:47:34,768 --> 00:47:37,437 Banksy show. Banksy show. Banksy show. 843 00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:40,065 And it wasn't a Banksy show. It was a Keszler show. 844 00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:42,150 This is Kissing Couple, 845 00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:44,653 one of Banksy's most famous work. 846 00:47:44,736 --> 00:47:48,532 He made it in 2005 in Brighton, England, 847 00:47:48,615 --> 00:47:53,078 and you see two cops kissing each other, 848 00:47:53,161 --> 00:47:55,789 which I think is a very funny way 849 00:47:55,872 --> 00:47:59,209 to show you protest against the establishment. 850 00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:00,961 So, Banksy made this work, 851 00:48:01,044 --> 00:48:02,921 which is named Out of Bed Rat, 852 00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:05,841 in 2006 in Los Angeles. 853 00:48:05,924 --> 00:48:08,176 He made it in-- on Melrose Place. 854 00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:09,761 [Greif] I don't know how I feel about this. 855 00:48:09,845 --> 00:48:12,139 It's like when you see a deer in the wild, it's cool. 856 00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:15,142 When you see a deer's head on the wall, it's not so cool. 857 00:48:15,225 --> 00:48:18,604 These things were actually put on display 858 00:48:18,687 --> 00:48:20,814 as trophy heads, 859 00:48:20,897 --> 00:48:23,942 but, you know, sometimes it's really cool to look at trophy heads. 860 00:48:24,026 --> 00:48:25,027 [cheering] 861 00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:26,945 [Greif] The weird thing is they set the rat up 862 00:48:27,029 --> 00:48:29,990 right across from the VIP cocktail lounge. 863 00:48:31,491 --> 00:48:32,909 They look out of place, 864 00:48:32,993 --> 00:48:38,332 but there's a lot of work that looks out of place in there, and yeah. 865 00:48:38,415 --> 00:48:41,168 It's a capitalist thing, you know? It's the emperor's new clothes. 866 00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,420 Most of the artwork that's in galleries is bullshit. 867 00:48:43,503 --> 00:48:46,632 Most of the reason the people are selling art is bullshit. 868 00:48:46,715 --> 00:48:48,008 They're just trying to make money, 869 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:50,677 and they're just talking up bullshit because they can control it. 870 00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:54,640 [narrator] Banksy condemned the show. 871 00:48:54,723 --> 00:48:57,601 Street artists refused to attend. 872 00:48:57,684 --> 00:49:00,020 Is-- Is this a film about that? 873 00:49:00,103 --> 00:49:01,104 [man] Yeah. 874 00:49:01,188 --> 00:49:03,065 Oh, well, I mean, f... 875 00:49:04,232 --> 00:49:08,236 Look, really, I don't even, like, 876 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,448 I don't care, like, if you're asking me if I'm gonna go see it, 877 00:49:11,531 --> 00:49:13,700 probably not-- no, definitely not. 878 00:49:13,784 --> 00:49:15,786 I'm not gonna wait in a line to go and see that. 879 00:49:15,869 --> 00:49:18,789 And especially 'cause it's not like where it was, I guess. 880 00:49:18,872 --> 00:49:21,792 Pfft. I mean, really, I've got no comment about that. 881 00:49:23,418 --> 00:49:25,045 So, yeah, I heard these rumors 882 00:49:25,128 --> 00:49:29,633 that somebody was gonna vandalize the Banksy paintings at the show. 883 00:49:29,716 --> 00:49:35,097 Opening night, suits, cocktails, security guards... 884 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:37,724 [man] There was some talk that people might try to come in 885 00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:40,894 and vandalize the Banksies. Had you heard that? 886 00:49:40,977 --> 00:49:45,899 First of all, if you see here, there's 24/7 security. 887 00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:50,362 If they do this... they will go to jail. 888 00:49:50,445 --> 00:49:53,490 So, I'm not worried about that. 889 00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:56,159 ...which, uh, unfortunately never happened. 890 00:49:56,243 --> 00:49:57,869 It would've been fun. 891 00:49:57,953 --> 00:50:00,080 Now, Banksy's condemned the show. 892 00:50:00,163 --> 00:50:01,164 Yes. 893 00:50:01,248 --> 00:50:02,916 How do you feel about that? 894 00:50:02,999 --> 00:50:06,795 I don't care. He is painting his works 895 00:50:06,878 --> 00:50:11,091 on houses or properties of other people without asking. 896 00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:15,429 If I do my own canvas, then I obviously feel like I have rights, 897 00:50:15,512 --> 00:50:19,850 but if I do it on somebody else's property, then I would say no. 898 00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:21,685 That, no. 899 00:50:21,768 --> 00:50:25,188 He expect that what we are doing, 900 00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:27,482 we need to ask him for permission. 901 00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:30,902 So it's a hypocritical argument, what he does. 902 00:50:30,986 --> 00:50:34,239 They should respect the artist and, like, what they wanted, 903 00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:37,284 and not just, like, "Oh, it needs to be in this art show thing." 904 00:50:37,367 --> 00:50:40,746 So, I can understand that it doesn't necessarily fit his aesthetic 905 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:44,040 to be on the wall inside a museum or a gallery. 906 00:50:44,124 --> 00:50:46,585 He doesn't trust the gallery system. 907 00:50:46,668 --> 00:50:50,046 He doesn't necessarily agree with how it works. 908 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:53,300 Uh, he wants to do everything on his terms, 909 00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:56,511 and, you know, he's successful at doing that. 910 00:50:56,595 --> 00:50:58,138 There is a big market now, 911 00:50:58,221 --> 00:51:02,184 a big, very important market of street art, 912 00:51:02,267 --> 00:51:05,437 a lot of money is involved in street art now, 913 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,938 a lot of money. 914 00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:10,984 This hype about Banksy right now where nobody knows who he is 915 00:51:11,067 --> 00:51:14,571 and what he is, I think, is a very strategic and smart way 916 00:51:14,654 --> 00:51:18,408 from him to get his work and to get him more famous. 917 00:51:19,075 --> 00:51:22,412 [narrator] In 2005, Banksy did several paintings 918 00:51:22,496 --> 00:51:24,289 on the division wall in Palestine. 919 00:51:24,372 --> 00:51:27,125 Ben Eine was with him. 920 00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:29,920 I went to Palestine with Banksy. 921 00:51:30,003 --> 00:51:35,091 Uh, it was our first trip to Palestine, and... 922 00:51:35,175 --> 00:51:39,262 Yeah, we went and painted quite a few pieces 923 00:51:39,346 --> 00:51:40,931 on the segregation wall, 924 00:51:41,014 --> 00:51:43,683 on bombed ruins, 925 00:51:43,767 --> 00:51:46,603 on basically huge lumps of concrete. 926 00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:50,357 And we spent two weeks over there painting all day, every day, 927 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,610 and, yeah, we left Palestine, 928 00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:57,280 and we never expected to see any of those paintings again. 929 00:52:01,576 --> 00:52:03,328 Two of them turn up in Miami. 930 00:52:04,955 --> 00:52:06,122 This is Wet Dog. 931 00:52:06,206 --> 00:52:09,543 He made it in 2007, uh, in Palestine. 932 00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:12,337 It's about 1,800 pounds. 933 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:13,880 It's a really heavy piece. 934 00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:16,842 We restored it the way it is right now, 935 00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:22,472 and it was seen on the stone next to a bus station in Palestine. 936 00:52:22,556 --> 00:52:24,349 And now it's here. 937 00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:26,393 This piece is Stop and Search. 938 00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:30,355 It was also made in 2007 in Palestine, West Bank. 939 00:52:30,438 --> 00:52:33,525 It shows a little girl with a soldier 940 00:52:33,608 --> 00:52:36,319 from the occupying force of Israel, 941 00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:39,072 and this was a very strong statement of Banksy 942 00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:42,242 to protest against what is going on in the Middle East. 943 00:52:42,325 --> 00:52:45,287 You see here all the bullets, shots in there, 944 00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:49,291 so I think this is one of the most famous Banksy pieces in the world. 945 00:52:49,374 --> 00:52:50,750 I mean, I can't imagine someone 946 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:52,669 going to the Middle East, 947 00:52:52,752 --> 00:52:55,380 where there's been conflict for, you know, 948 00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:57,549 thousands of years, 949 00:52:57,632 --> 00:52:59,843 and an artist in this day and age goes there, 950 00:52:59,926 --> 00:53:02,012 seeing what's going on politically, 951 00:53:02,095 --> 00:53:03,680 and is trying to make a statement, 952 00:53:03,763 --> 00:53:05,974 you know, and share something with the people 953 00:53:06,057 --> 00:53:08,643 and try and make a positive impact, 954 00:53:08,727 --> 00:53:11,897 and some fucking asshole comes and just takes the shit off a wall there 955 00:53:11,980 --> 00:53:13,690 and tries to sell it to someone 956 00:53:13,773 --> 00:53:16,067 in a fancy neighborhood somewhere else in the world 957 00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:18,153 who happens to have enough money to pay for it? 958 00:53:18,236 --> 00:53:19,446 I mean, what the fuck is that? 959 00:53:19,529 --> 00:53:20,906 I mean, what sense does that make? 960 00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:25,660 He's trying to, like, soothe a very chaotic and sensitive place 961 00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:28,163 with some art, you know, for the people, 962 00:53:28,246 --> 00:53:29,873 and then some fucking asshole 963 00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:33,001 comes out of left field and, like, because he can make a buck, 964 00:53:33,084 --> 00:53:37,547 you know, like, rips it out and like, you know... 965 00:53:37,631 --> 00:53:39,341 It's deplorable. 966 00:53:39,424 --> 00:53:42,719 Do we profit from it? Yes. 967 00:53:42,802 --> 00:53:45,555 Do we put a lot of effort into it? Yes. 968 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,057 So we both deserve it. 969 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:50,185 [Eine] Keszler knew that the rat was preserved. 970 00:53:50,268 --> 00:53:51,686 He wanted to buy it. 971 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,230 He obviously had people that wanted to buy it from him. 972 00:53:54,314 --> 00:53:56,441 He wanted to own this painting. 973 00:53:57,442 --> 00:54:00,236 Yeah. So, the first thing is it's not for sale here. 974 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,530 So there's not even a discussion about this. 975 00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:07,786 And, um... I think it's, right now, my guess is 976 00:54:07,869 --> 00:54:10,455 that it's not-- It's not a million dollars. 977 00:54:10,538 --> 00:54:11,581 It's not. 978 00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:14,876 Also, my big pieces are not a million dollars. 979 00:54:15,877 --> 00:54:17,712 So, I think it's-- I-- 980 00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:21,132 I think it's a couple of hundred-- 981 00:54:21,216 --> 00:54:24,010 I-I-I think I could sell it easily-- 982 00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:27,847 Easily-- This cost me hundred thousand dollars also here. 983 00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:29,975 I think I could sell it for... 984 00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:34,604 Two hundred, two hundred fifty, net, for you. 985 00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:39,150 Well, then I would-- I would get a hundred thousand. 986 00:54:39,234 --> 00:54:41,569 So three hundred fifty, more or less, 987 00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:44,572 and you would get two hundred fifty or something like this. 988 00:54:44,656 --> 00:54:49,536 You know, it's frustrating, but, you know, when money gets involved, 989 00:54:49,619 --> 00:54:52,122 this is what happens. 990 00:54:52,205 --> 00:54:53,623 But this is much more... 991 00:54:54,874 --> 00:54:56,626 sellable, or commercial, 992 00:54:56,710 --> 00:55:01,047 because you can hang 250 pounds better in your apartment 993 00:55:01,131 --> 00:55:05,051 than a 3,000 or 2,000 pound concrete wall. 994 00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:09,597 [narrator] What happened to Keszler's Banksies after the exhibit? 995 00:55:09,681 --> 00:55:12,767 [auctioneer] We can start the auction, and we start with the Lot 1. 996 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:15,979 [narrator] Wet Dog, one of the pieces from Palestine, 997 00:55:16,062 --> 00:55:17,981 turned up at an auction in Miami, 998 00:55:18,064 --> 00:55:20,775 alongside a new Banksy street piece 999 00:55:20,859 --> 00:55:23,028 called Slave Labor. 1000 00:55:23,111 --> 00:55:27,574 [auctioneer] ...70,000, 80,000, 90,000... 1001 00:55:27,657 --> 00:55:29,701 [auctioneer fades] 1002 00:56:00,607 --> 00:56:05,820 I'm back from Miami, and I brought back the actual catalog for Art Miami, 1003 00:56:05,904 --> 00:56:10,825 and the very first piece featured in this big, thick catalog is my Banksy. 1004 00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:13,536 And then you flip to the next page, 1005 00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:16,831 and another picture of my Banksy from the Red Vic, 1006 00:56:16,915 --> 00:56:19,793 along with the other Banksies that were exhibited. 1007 00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:22,504 There shouldn't be a price tag on them. They shouldn't be at auction. 1008 00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:26,466 They should be out in the public where people can enjoy them for free. 1009 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:28,468 Keszler wanted the Banksy rat. 1010 00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:31,638 So, here's an email directly from Stephan Keszler. 1011 00:56:31,721 --> 00:56:34,182 It says, "We're putting together our new brochure 1012 00:56:34,265 --> 00:56:36,518 for Banksy originals... 1013 00:56:36,601 --> 00:56:39,604 [reading] 1014 00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:47,153 If yes, I would suggest a minimum price we both have to agree on, 1015 00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:48,780 and an equal share. 1016 00:56:52,283 --> 00:56:53,952 Thanks, Stephan." 1017 00:56:54,035 --> 00:56:56,663 The rat wasn't for sale. He wanted to buy it. 1018 00:56:56,746 --> 00:56:59,582 The price that he was going to pay for it kept on going up. 1019 00:56:59,666 --> 00:57:05,004 Two weeks later, there was an offer of half a million dollars on the table. 1020 00:57:05,088 --> 00:57:10,885 He had called me and offered me $500,000 for my Banksy. 1021 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:14,222 And here's the email. It says... 1022 00:57:22,397 --> 00:57:24,858 He seems okay with my decision at this point, 1023 00:57:24,941 --> 00:57:26,860 but then his tone changes. 1024 00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:30,530 So, this email came the very next day from Stephan Keszler. It says... 1025 00:57:41,624 --> 00:57:42,667 "Stephan." 1026 00:57:44,919 --> 00:57:46,421 Haven't heard from him since. 1027 00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:53,386 Half a million dollars is a substantial amount of money by anybody's standards. 1028 00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:57,390 You know, to say no to that, well, obviously this dude's 1029 00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:00,935 not just somebody who's trying to, you know, flip it 1030 00:58:01,019 --> 00:58:04,439 and, you know, capitalize off of it and make a quick buck, is he? 1031 00:58:04,522 --> 00:58:09,777 Yeah, you know, this is the irony of, you know, Banksy street art, 1032 00:58:09,861 --> 00:58:11,654 you know, taken down from the street. 1033 00:58:11,738 --> 00:58:15,700 Here's this guy that has a Banksy piece and he wants to give it to a museum, 1034 00:58:15,783 --> 00:58:17,494 and they don't want to take it, 1035 00:58:17,577 --> 00:58:21,456 and yet somebody's prepared to pay half a million dollars for it. 1036 00:58:21,539 --> 00:58:25,460 You know, it's-- it's the beauty of street art. 1037 00:58:28,129 --> 00:58:32,842 [narrator] Art dealers continue to remove and sell Banksy's public paintings. 1038 00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:38,181 Banksy doesn't see a single penny from the sale of these works. 1039 00:58:39,474 --> 00:58:42,393 [Eine] At some point, he'll stop painting. At some point, he'll die. 1040 00:58:42,477 --> 00:58:44,979 These paintings will never be made again. 1041 00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:46,981 People want them. 1042 00:58:47,065 --> 00:58:51,694 There's-- yeah, insane value in the stuff that he paints. 1043 00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:54,113 So, a couple things that I've noticed... 1044 00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:57,575 [narrator] The Haight Street rat was eventually sent to Southern California 1045 00:58:57,659 --> 00:58:59,869 to be preserved and fully restored. 1046 00:58:59,953 --> 00:59:02,872 [Greif] One of the things I want to do is protect the edges 1047 00:59:02,956 --> 00:59:05,124 from being banged or chipped... 1048 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:09,504 [narrator] With preservation, the total cost of saving the rat? 1049 00:59:09,587 --> 00:59:12,173 Over $40,000. 1050 00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:14,676 If it is boxed in, then the frame would obviously be... 1051 00:59:38,324 --> 00:59:41,953 [Greif] So, it's back in San Francisco, and I'm really happy with the restoration. 1052 00:59:42,036 --> 00:59:43,997 It looks a lot better than it did in Miami, 1053 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,000 and what I like about the restoration is I wanted them 1054 00:59:47,083 --> 00:59:50,878 to make it look like it did on the wall of the building 1055 00:59:50,962 --> 00:59:53,798 and not, you know, like a preserved painting, 1056 00:59:53,881 --> 00:59:55,383 and they've done that. 1057 00:59:55,466 --> 00:59:57,135 You know, there are still cracks in the paint. 1058 00:59:57,218 --> 00:59:58,469 There are nails. 1059 00:59:58,553 --> 01:00:01,222 You can see the nails that are sticking out and bent over. 1060 01:00:02,056 --> 01:00:03,933 So, it looks really good. 1061 01:00:04,017 --> 01:00:06,644 [narrator] The restoration became front-page news 1062 01:00:06,728 --> 01:00:08,688 in the San Francisco Chronicle. 1063 01:00:08,771 --> 01:00:13,026 The publicity generated a new wave of offers from private collectors, 1064 01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:17,363 including an offer of $700,000. 1065 01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:19,866 That offer was rejected. 1066 01:00:24,621 --> 01:00:26,873 [Justin Jack] ♪ I got the money ♪ 1067 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:28,458 ♪ I got the money for you ♪ 1068 01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:30,668 Since the article in the San Francisco Chronicle, 1069 01:00:30,752 --> 01:00:33,046 I've been flooded with people that want to show it 1070 01:00:33,129 --> 01:00:34,922 and people that want to buy it, 1071 01:00:35,006 --> 01:00:37,550 but unfortunately, none of them are really good fits. 1072 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:38,676 I had somebody call me-- 1073 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,430 they wanted to put it up on the gate outside their house, 1074 01:00:42,513 --> 01:00:45,016 in the redwoods north of San Francisco, 1075 01:00:45,099 --> 01:00:46,726 which, for me, doesn't work. 1076 01:00:46,809 --> 01:00:50,063 So, you know, I'm still looking for a home for it. 1077 01:00:50,146 --> 01:00:52,482 Hopefully, we'll find a place to put it. 1078 01:00:52,565 --> 01:00:56,444 The last offer I had from a collector was for $700,000, 1079 01:00:56,527 --> 01:00:58,071 which I turned down. 1080 01:00:58,154 --> 01:00:59,364 Good for him, man. 1081 01:00:59,447 --> 01:01:01,866 If he's really not doing it for the profit and he wants it in a museum, 1082 01:01:01,949 --> 01:01:04,744 and he believes that strongly about it, I think he's doing the right thing 1083 01:01:04,827 --> 01:01:08,206 because eventually, you know, it'll gain traction and it'll get in a museum. 1084 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,131 [Greif] I've learned a lot, and I've me a lot of graffiti artists, 1085 01:01:17,215 --> 01:01:19,425 and, you know, they all have sort of a different take on it. 1086 01:01:19,509 --> 01:01:22,345 Some think I never should've touched it or should've left it up, 1087 01:01:22,428 --> 01:01:24,764 and if it got destroyed, it got destroyed. 1088 01:01:24,847 --> 01:01:28,059 The whole thing with conserving shit 1089 01:01:28,142 --> 01:01:29,811 that's been done on the street, 1090 01:01:29,894 --> 01:01:31,521 it makes no sense. 1091 01:01:31,604 --> 01:01:35,775 You know, others say it's a good thing, and I know some of the graffiti artists 1092 01:01:35,858 --> 01:01:39,612 are saying that maybe we need to rethink this whole temporary art form thing. 1093 01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:45,910 I don't know. You know, like, right now, today, 1094 01:01:45,993 --> 01:01:49,664 I wouldn't want one of my paintings preserved. 1095 01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:54,502 A hundred years' time, when I'm dead and none of them exist, 1096 01:01:54,585 --> 01:01:58,131 I would love for one of my paintings to be preserved. 1097 01:01:59,257 --> 01:02:01,801 It's, you know, it's a double-edged sword. 1098 01:02:01,884 --> 01:02:06,514 The art that was done in this movement in the public, which is important, 1099 01:02:06,597 --> 01:02:08,141 is all gonna be gone. 1100 01:02:08,224 --> 01:02:11,060 So, the whole idea of this being a temporary art form 1101 01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:16,607 and it's okay if it gets, you know, painted over or destroyed, 1102 01:02:16,691 --> 01:02:18,234 to me, really needs to be re-thought. 1103 01:02:18,317 --> 01:02:20,695 Well, it's part of history. You know, we're gonna talk about, 1104 01:02:20,778 --> 01:02:22,697 "You remember when people were taking all of our pieces 1105 01:02:22,780 --> 01:02:24,699 and putting them in museums. We didn't want them there"? 1106 01:02:24,782 --> 01:02:27,702 There's gonna be a period of work that's, you know, work that's out of context. 1107 01:02:27,785 --> 01:02:30,455 It's gonna be all this work that's like, "What period was that from?" 1108 01:02:30,538 --> 01:02:32,790 "Oh, that was the work that wasn't supposed to be in a museum." 1109 01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:35,793 So it all, you know, it's all relative. 1110 01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:38,713 [Greif] There's no doubt that it's a Banksy. 1111 01:02:38,796 --> 01:02:41,007 There's no doubt that it's an important Banksy. 1112 01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:43,885 It's iconic Banksy imagery. 1113 01:02:43,968 --> 01:02:48,473 For it to be protected and to then take on an entirely new life and last, 1114 01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:50,308 even if it's in a different context, 1115 01:02:50,391 --> 01:02:53,811 just keeping it for, you know, historical sake 1116 01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:55,897 or whatever, like, yeah, that's rad. 1117 01:02:55,980 --> 01:03:00,276 If you can save art, it's... Do it. 1118 01:03:01,277 --> 01:03:04,655 [Greif] You know, Banksy pieces like this either get destroyed 1119 01:03:04,739 --> 01:03:07,450 or they get sold and they end up in somebody's house 1120 01:03:07,533 --> 01:03:09,118 where the public can't see it. 1121 01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,580 And, you know, we were able to take this one down, preserve it, 1122 01:03:12,663 --> 01:03:14,749 and, you know, hopefully at some point 1123 01:03:14,832 --> 01:03:16,918 it'll be up in a place where the public can see it 1124 01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:18,544 you know, 24/7. 1125 01:03:22,423 --> 01:03:24,592 ♪ I got the money ♪ 1126 01:03:24,675 --> 01:03:26,761 ♪ I got the money for you ♪ 1127 01:03:26,844 --> 01:03:28,179 So, it's funny, you know. 1128 01:03:28,262 --> 01:03:30,640 I got people that want to buy it for $700,000, 1129 01:03:30,723 --> 01:03:33,351 but I can't give it away for free. 1130 01:03:36,312 --> 01:03:38,856 I don't know, man. What's the moral to the story? 1131 01:03:40,608 --> 01:03:42,026 Is there a moral? 1132 01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:46,405 If there was a moral to this story, it's, you know, for once, 1133 01:03:46,489 --> 01:03:47,824 greed didn't win. 1134 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:49,408 The good guys did. 1135 01:03:49,492 --> 01:03:50,493 You know... 1136 01:03:51,661 --> 01:03:53,913 It's there, it's preserved, 1137 01:03:53,996 --> 01:03:55,748 it will turn up in a museum, 1138 01:03:55,832 --> 01:03:59,961 and it's not gonna hang on somebody's house in the Hamptons. 1139 01:04:00,962 --> 01:04:02,922 Yeah, the good guys won, I suppose. 1140 01:04:03,005 --> 01:04:07,301 When the Earth explodes, it's all gonna be stardust, anyway. 1141 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:10,680 In 50 years' time, everyone's gonna be grateful. 1142 01:04:11,681 --> 01:04:13,516 Yeah, that's the moral, probably. 1143 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,687 ♪ I got the money ♪ 1144 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:20,648 ♪ I got the money for you ♪ 1145 01:04:24,485 --> 01:04:26,529 [song continues indistinctly] 1146 01:04:46,883 --> 01:04:49,927 [narrator] And what would Banksy think of all this? 1147 01:04:50,011 --> 01:04:56,726 I'm pretty sure he would find it amusing that people care this much 1148 01:04:56,809 --> 01:05:01,063 about something that took him ten minutes to paint. 1149 01:05:03,107 --> 01:05:05,276 Yeah. Yeah, he would laugh. 1150 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:07,612 ♪ All I do is feel the pain ♪ 1151 01:05:07,695 --> 01:05:09,071 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1152 01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:12,366 ♪ All I do is feel the... ♪ 1153 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:17,204 ♪ All I do is feel the pain ♪ 1154 01:05:17,288 --> 01:05:18,789 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1155 01:05:18,873 --> 01:05:20,666 ♪ Based on a true story ♪ 1156 01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:21,751 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1157 01:05:21,834 --> 01:05:23,544 ♪ My life and your life ♪ 1158 01:05:23,628 --> 01:05:24,670 ♪ Uh, let's go ♪ 1159 01:05:24,754 --> 01:05:26,464 ♪ Pain ♪ 1160 01:05:26,547 --> 01:05:27,882 ♪ Uh, that's pain ♪ 1161 01:05:27,965 --> 01:05:30,509 ♪ All I do is feel the pain ♪ 1162 01:05:30,593 --> 01:05:31,844 ♪ Nothing more, nothing less ♪ 1163 01:05:31,928 --> 01:05:34,013 ♪ I feel it hella close to the chest, yeah ♪ 1164 01:05:34,096 --> 01:05:35,681 ♪ Pain ♪ 1165 01:05:35,765 --> 01:05:37,099 ♪ Uh, that's pain ♪ 1166 01:05:37,183 --> 01:05:39,560 ♪ All I do is feel the pain ♪ 1167 01:05:39,644 --> 01:05:41,103 ♪ Nothing more, nothing less ♪ 1168 01:05:41,187 --> 01:05:43,189 ♪ I feel it hella close to the chest ♪ 1169 01:05:43,272 --> 01:05:45,608 ♪ The end of last year was a tad bit crazy ♪ 1170 01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:48,027 ♪ My ex-bitch lied and cheated on me crazy ♪ 1171 01:05:48,110 --> 01:05:50,279 ♪ When I think about it, wasn't all that crazy ♪ 1172 01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:52,531 ♪ I got on my knees and prayed for the Lord to save me ♪ 1173 01:05:52,615 --> 01:05:54,867 ♪ Tired of working dead-end jobs, least I got a J-O-B ♪ 1174 01:05:54,951 --> 01:05:57,244 ♪ Then I got a DUI, damn, I gotta testify ♪ 1175 01:05:57,328 --> 01:05:59,538 ♪ Inside the courtroom, spent a night in jail ♪ 1176 01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:01,749 ♪ Bitch couldn't pick me up, working on her nails ♪ 1177 01:06:01,832 --> 01:06:03,042 ♪ Damn, that shit is real life ♪ 1178 01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:04,251 ♪ Then they had to die twice ♪ 1179 01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:05,336 ♪ Handcuffed to a chair ♪ 1180 01:06:05,419 --> 01:06:06,587 ♪ When the shit is all clear ♪ 1181 01:06:06,671 --> 01:06:07,713 ♪ Nice guys finish last ♪ 1182 01:06:07,797 --> 01:06:08,839 ♪ So I'm an asshole ♪ 1183 01:06:08,923 --> 01:06:10,007 ♪ Suck the dick, gag, bitch ♪ 1184 01:06:10,091 --> 01:06:11,092 ♪ Holding up my cash flow ♪ 1185 01:06:11,175 --> 01:06:13,344 ♪ Can't turn this over to a housewife, late night ♪ 1186 01:06:13,427 --> 01:06:15,680 ♪ You see these niggers leave her swimming with the semen ♪ 1187 01:06:15,763 --> 01:06:16,931 ♪ Yeah, bitch, she was a ho ♪ 1188 01:06:17,014 --> 01:06:18,099 ♪ This is my retaliation ♪ 1189 01:06:18,182 --> 01:06:20,726 ♪ You deserve a trombone at your skank-ass bitch ♪ 1190 01:06:20,810 --> 01:06:21,811 ♪ Pain ♪ 1191 01:06:21,894 --> 01:06:23,145 ♪ Uh, that's pain ♪ 1192 01:06:23,229 --> 01:06:25,773 ♪ All I do is feel the pain ♪ 1193 01:06:25,856 --> 01:06:27,149 ♪ Nothing more, nothing less ♪ 1194 01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,568 ♪ I feel it hella close to the chest, yeah ♪ 1195 01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:32,780 ♪ Pain, pain, pain-pain ♪ 1196 01:06:32,863 --> 01:06:34,240 ♪ Nothing more, nothing less ♪ 1197 01:06:34,323 --> 01:06:36,325 ♪ Pain, pain, pain-pain ♪ 1198 01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:38,953 ♪ I feel it hella close to the chest, yeah... ♪ 1199 01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:41,956 ["Aging" by the Wind and the Sea playing] 1200 01:07:10,943 --> 01:07:13,821 ♪ And as you grow, my son ♪ 1201 01:07:13,904 --> 01:07:17,366 ♪ You lose faith in man ♪ 1202 01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:23,122 ♪ With a perfect plan for our kind ♪ 1203 01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:29,378 ♪ And as you age, my boy ♪ 1204 01:07:29,462 --> 01:07:32,339 ♪ You lose faith in God ♪ 1205 01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:38,637 ♪ Wound the sweet path flow by and by ♪ 1206 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:43,684 ♪ And you weep without a reason ♪ 1207 01:07:43,768 --> 01:07:47,438 ♪ And you cry without cause ♪ 1208 01:07:48,689 --> 01:07:53,444 ♪ You fucked up every thing you got to do ♪ 1209 01:07:53,527 --> 01:07:54,904 ♪ But it's all... ♪ 1210 01:08:27,645 --> 01:08:30,397 ♪ And when you go ♪ 1211 01:08:30,481 --> 01:08:34,151 ♪ You fall in love with a girl ♪ 1212 01:08:34,235 --> 01:08:39,949 ♪ She makes you hang on forever ♪ 1213 01:08:43,327 --> 01:08:45,579 ♪ This year suits you ♪ 1214 01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:48,624 ♪ Like a bastard child... ♪