1 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:06,634 I drove him to school That morning like I always do, 2 00:01:07,635 --> 00:01:11,539 and expected to pick him up around 5:30 from the track training. 3 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:15,811 He sneaks out of the house 4 00:01:15,813 --> 00:01:18,447 friends to back-to-school parties. 5 00:01:19,613 --> 00:01:21,482 They end at Hardees 6 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:24,485 not too far from where I live 7 00:01:26,287 --> 00:01:28,189 That afternoon, 8 00:01:28,556 --> 00:01:32,526 around four o'clock, I got a phone call from one of his friends, 9 00:01:33,261 --> 00:01:35,863 and he said that he had a note for me, 10 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:38,799 says that he loves us 11 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:41,802 and he must go and go find himself. 12 00:01:42,470 --> 00:01:44,438 Someone returns home, 13 00:01:44,538 --> 00:01:48,209 other young women get into a car with several men, 14 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:52,213 and M.A. don't want to get into the car 15 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:56,284 And that's when a woman approaches her, 16 00:01:56,784 --> 00:01:59,853 tell him that he will go to help him return home 17 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:04,758 And what he does is he... 18 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:08,862 Takes him into the life of hell. 19 00:02:11,699 --> 00:02:14,402 Putri Kubiiki, M.A., who is 13 years old, 20 00:02:14,568 --> 00:02:17,371 and daughter of Nacole, J.S., aged 15, 21 00:02:18,206 --> 00:02:20,708 now includes 1.6 million homeless people 22 00:02:20,808 --> 00:02:22,476 and runaway children in America. 23 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:26,780 Within a few hours after releasing radar, 24 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,250 thousands of them will be traded sex. 25 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,220 A polite term for repeatedly raped 26 00:02:34,522 --> 00:02:37,325 Here's the story the girls and their parents, 27 00:02:37,425 --> 00:02:39,793 and their struggle against a legal and political system 28 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:42,763 that protects website earnings millions of dollars a year. 29 00:02:44,632 --> 00:02:47,167 A website where children are bought and sold, 30 00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:50,170 with a little more than click the mouse 31 00:03:25,406 --> 00:03:27,541 That is the third link from above. 32 00:03:27,741 --> 00:03:29,977 It has a star and a heart. 33 00:03:30,611 --> 00:03:32,946 And that said, "Young and new." 34 00:03:33,347 --> 00:03:36,384 But that star and heart attract my attention 35 00:03:37,385 --> 00:03:39,420 So I clicked it and... 36 00:03:40,621 --> 00:03:42,823 There is a photo of my daughter. 37 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:50,564 I call and ask to buy the service itself. 38 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:54,302 We return it, But he is addicted to drugs. 39 00:03:54,402 --> 00:03:55,836 He is very abused. 40 00:03:56,036 --> 00:03:58,238 He ran away twice more. 41 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:00,474 I said, "Why did you run away?" 42 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,577 And he said, "Okay, mother, I have to go and take this pill." 43 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:04,845 And I'm like, "what pill?" 44 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:07,881 And that's when I learned about other things, 45 00:04:07,981 --> 00:04:10,017 You know, that he shot him... 46 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:17,758 The next thing you know, boom. 47 00:04:19,927 --> 00:04:23,030 My daughter was stabbed and burned, 48 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:25,265 and his head is shaved, 49 00:04:25,366 --> 00:04:26,767 and he was beaten. 50 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:29,703 Drug dealers are tried. 51 00:04:29,803 --> 00:04:31,572 He was given a five-year sentence. 52 00:04:31,872 --> 00:04:34,575 He is responsible for the part of his crime. 53 00:04:35,075 --> 00:04:36,410 As soon as I told him 54 00:04:37,745 --> 00:04:38,612 about all the pain and suffering I experienced 55 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:41,382 and I want revenge, he also did it. 56 00:04:43,216 --> 00:04:44,712 For companies that are assisted by 57 00:04:44,714 --> 00:04:46,888 My 13 year ad children for sale, 58 00:04:46,987 --> 00:04:48,789 they are not responsible 59 00:04:49,823 --> 00:04:51,392 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 60 00:04:58,666 --> 00:05:02,836 We use it for buying and selling sofa, TV, video games. 61 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:05,038 I never knew 62 00:05:05,773 --> 00:05:08,041 that there are also humans sold. 63 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:16,884 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 64 00:05:17,385 --> 00:05:18,819 He calls them repeatedly, 65 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,456 ask them to delete the picture from his 13-year-old daughter, 66 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:24,392 that is still online 67 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,093 They refuse. 68 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:30,398 This makes Kubiiki a collision Of course with a Federal Judge, 69 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:33,066 special interest groups, and company money, 70 00:05:33,767 --> 00:05:36,537 all stick to the law which has been interpreted 71 00:05:36,637 --> 00:05:39,106 to provide a safe place for many things online, 72 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:43,110 including buying and selling children. 73 00:05:44,612 --> 00:05:46,914 Because the photo of her daughter is still online, 74 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:50,618 Kubiiki then takes the immediate goal Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 75 00:05:55,823 --> 00:05:57,758 Pedroli and Gauthier, how can I help you 76 00:05:58,191 --> 00:06:01,028 I believe we the first person to demand Backpage 77 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:03,697 on behalf of traded parents. 78 00:06:04,632 --> 00:06:07,601 I was thinking so everyone who plays 79 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:10,404 in damage to my child must be responsible 80 00:06:10,571 --> 00:06:11,805 And that means everyone. 81 00:06:21,615 --> 00:06:25,653 We will find pornography pictures of sexual acts, 82 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:27,755 and everything is open and clear. 83 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:29,790 Not much common sense 84 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:31,792 to find out what the actual deal is. 85 00:06:37,164 --> 00:06:39,533 The amount is fair the tip of the iceberg. 86 00:06:39,633 --> 00:06:41,702 This is a crime that occurs against children 87 00:06:41,802 --> 00:06:44,838 in every environment, in every place cities and states in this country. 88 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:47,641 I think I like that other person heard about it for the first time. 89 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:48,876 There is that distrust. 90 00:06:48,976 --> 00:06:51,979 There's no way this is true, 91 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,847 because this is the United States. 92 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:55,983 This is very profitable, 93 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:58,486 just as horrible as saying, business. 94 00:06:58,886 --> 00:06:59,887 This is the economy. 95 00:07:01,054 --> 00:07:02,490 You are a drug dealer, You can sell medicine once. 96 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:03,857 You are a human trader, 97 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,094 You can sell small children repeatedly. 98 00:07:07,728 --> 00:07:10,931 A lot of underage data trade is very difficult 99 00:07:11,031 --> 00:07:12,833 And there are numbers everywhere. 100 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:15,002 We think it's around 100,000 marks. 101 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:17,571 Twelve to fifteen percent of the children we serve 102 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,607 are victims of human trafficking. 103 00:07:19,707 --> 00:07:23,677 There are estimates out there 1.6 million homeless children 104 00:07:23,777 --> 00:07:25,212 going out on the road at a certain time. 105 00:07:25,579 --> 00:07:28,148 You can speak about 100, 150,000 children 106 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:30,484 who have been victims of human trafficking 107 00:07:30,818 --> 00:07:33,687 Our children are not seen. The amount can be even higher. 108 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,558 These children, who Once seen on the corner, 109 00:07:37,725 --> 00:07:41,829 now fast, efficient, and anonymously sold online. 110 00:07:42,029 --> 00:07:45,566 Wherever you look, you cut it, 111 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:47,935 very large numbers 112 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:49,570 And the request is very large. 113 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:52,740 The majority of children we see are traded online 114 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,675 has been traded in Backpage. 115 00:08:01,915 --> 00:08:05,218 Throughout the country in Seattle, at almost the same time, 116 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:09,623 Nacole is very trying look for her own daughter, J.S., 117 00:08:09,923 --> 00:08:11,525 who is 15 years old 118 00:08:13,661 --> 00:08:16,196 Forty-five days into it, I got a call from him. 119 00:08:16,864 --> 00:08:18,065 It was my birthday. 120 00:08:18,799 --> 00:08:21,669 He called to tell me he loved me. 121 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:24,371 This is rather vague. I just... 122 00:08:25,873 --> 00:08:28,141 shock. I can't believe what happened 123 00:08:29,242 --> 00:08:31,945 My first instinct as a father, You want to go out and see. 124 00:08:32,646 --> 00:08:34,782 You feel out of control. 125 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:38,118 Desperate. 126 00:08:39,186 --> 00:08:40,988 I go out and start looking every day 127 00:08:41,789 --> 00:08:43,924 I get angry and angry. 128 00:08:44,625 --> 00:08:47,961 I can't stop the tape In my mind,... 129 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:52,132 I can't stop thinking about what might happen to him. 130 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:57,137 I was really scared of him and I was determined to find it. 131 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:02,710 He told us that he was injured, 132 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:04,177 that he is not a good child, 133 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:05,746 he is not a good person, 134 00:09:07,214 --> 00:09:08,649 and that we don't want it. 135 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:11,619 You don't know whether he is alive or dead, 136 00:09:11,719 --> 00:09:13,553 You don't know what happened to him. 137 00:09:13,821 --> 00:09:17,257 I go to every bad thing environment and I go to the motel. 138 00:09:17,357 --> 00:09:19,793 I investigate where I think they can have it 139 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:21,595 That's very difficult. 140 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:26,333 I remember a detective named A few moments after the 45 day mark 141 00:09:26,767 --> 00:09:28,168 and request dental records, 142 00:09:28,802 --> 00:09:30,203 and you can only assume 143 00:09:31,772 --> 00:09:33,807 that they try to identify the body. 144 00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:38,846 Every day continues, I become more angry. 145 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,248 Then I go to the liquor store 146 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:43,684 I grabbed a bottle, and I started drinking. 147 00:09:44,317 --> 00:09:45,919 And that's how I handle it. 148 00:09:46,887 --> 00:09:49,757 He began to advocate, and do advocacy work. 149 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:50,824 And pray. 150 00:09:51,692 --> 00:09:52,292 I'm just the opposite. I am angry. 151 00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:54,728 I want to hurt a pimp. That's what I want to do. 152 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:55,796 I want to get even. 153 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:09,076 In September 2010, 154 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:11,311 a few months after filing a lawsuit, 155 00:10:11,945 --> 00:10:14,247 Kubiiki's lawyer, Robert Pedroli, 156 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:16,817 accept phone calls from Village Voice Media, 157 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,619 parent company Backpage. 158 00:10:20,788 --> 00:10:23,623 They contact me to feel me out, 159 00:10:23,724 --> 00:10:27,027 and to tell me what Their great people, 160 00:10:27,127 --> 00:10:31,164 and how the founder is actually Cool guy from Greenwich Village, 161 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,033 and what I know about that 162 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,402 Conversations rocking to, you know, 163 00:10:35,502 --> 00:10:37,805 "What are you looking for? You are looking for a little solution? 164 00:10:37,905 --> 00:10:39,873 " We might be able to to make you a little settlement 165 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,174 to help the girl come out. " 166 00:10:42,309 --> 00:10:44,644 And I told him," I doubt it will work. " 167 00:10:45,846 --> 00:10:49,917 It's not about money, it's just about anger We want to prevent it from doing what they do 168 00:10:50,450 --> 00:10:53,286 by having a decision given to them 169 00:10:53,386 --> 00:10:56,423 I don't even recognize it. choppy 170 00:10:57,024 --> 00:10:59,059 He wears different clothes. 171 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:02,830 172 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:05,332 173 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,092 174 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:34,261 175 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:37,765 176 00:11:37,865 --> 00:11:39,132 177 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,803 On the way home he told us about it he had been raped and sold. 178 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:46,139 As bad as missing, 179 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:49,009 it's very traumatic hear these words come 180 00:11:49,109 --> 00:11:50,911 of your 15-year-old child. 181 00:11:51,244 --> 00:11:52,245 That is very devastating. 182 00:11:52,479 --> 00:11:55,783 It takes a long time to realize 183 00:11:55,883 --> 00:11:58,752 that I am innocent for what happened to me 184 00:12:00,788 --> 00:12:02,823 I don't think everyone lives a life thinking 185 00:12:02,923 --> 00:12:04,958 about the child sex trade in the United States. 186 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:08,829 I know I didn't do it until it happened to my family. 187 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:11,999 I always believe it is something That happens in foreign countries. 188 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:13,901 You hear it on the news. 189 00:12:14,001 --> 00:12:17,237 But to find out about that happened in the backyard of my own house 190 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:20,507 and that can happen for the most normal family 191 00:12:20,607 --> 00:12:22,309 and the most normal children, 192 00:12:22,409 --> 00:12:24,111 and how fast it can happen. 193 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,947 That's when I decided to fight 194 00:12:27,047 --> 00:12:30,851 and trying to catch up Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 195 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:33,921 I am on a mission. 196 00:12:35,388 --> 00:12:38,892 The most popular internet site for Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Online Safe Gambling Agent 197 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:40,928 And in the last few weeks, we have been reported at increasing pressure by law enforcement officials and the anti-sex trade group 198 00:12:41,028 --> 00:12:43,797 so that Backpage is turned off the adult service section, 199 00:12:43,897 --> 00:12:46,967 which part the authorities say is underage 200 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:48,986 Girls are sometimes sold for sex. 201 00:12:48,987 --> 00:12:50,503 In October 2010, Craigslist closed its adult part 202 00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:57,210 and the number of sex ads in Backpage skyrocketed. 203 00:12:57,978 --> 00:13:00,881 Backpage offers to meet 204 00:13:02,449 --> 00:13:03,851 205 00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:06,386 with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, 206 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:07,855 or NCMEC, 207 00:13:08,956 --> 00:13:10,824 to discuss this problem child trafficking. 208 00:13:12,359 --> 00:13:13,827 Well, there is a period of years 209 00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:16,997 where is the NCMEC representative and the Backpage 210 00:13:17,097 --> 00:13:18,198 representative meet often enough. 211 00:13:19,399 --> 00:13:21,501 We want to suggest that they can improve the site 212 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:23,336 and try to get rid of human trafficking. 213 00:13:24,771 --> 00:13:26,273 Backpage will always ask us what else they can do, 214 00:13:27,707 --> 00:13:30,043 always in discussion explore that choice with us. 215 00:13:30,377 --> 00:13:33,313 One of the Backpage solutions is to employ a moderator. 216 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:37,450 Their plan is to review every sex ad, every adult ad, 217 00:13:38,018 --> 00:13:40,087 to filter potential illegality. 218 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:43,423 We have a list of the words we went through 219 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:45,525 it's not supposed to be to be used in advertisements. 220 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:54,534 Moderation and prohibited rules the term list often changes. 221 00:14:00,007 --> 00:14:01,508 On an average day of eight hours, 222 00:14:01,608 --> 00:14:04,511 I will go through seven for eight hundred ads. 223 00:14:04,978 --> 00:14:08,381 Many times, I feel like we fly with the seat of our pants. 224 00:14:14,121 --> 00:14:15,188 on St. Louis, 225 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:18,325 The Kubiiki case against Backpage was finally decided, 226 00:14:18,591 --> 00:14:21,328 eighteen months after that is first submitted. 227 00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:25,432 Backpage argues that Kubiiki & apos; s cases must be terminated 228 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:29,937 based on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, or CDA, 229 00:14:30,403 --> 00:14:33,573 a law passed by Congress in 1996. 230 00:14:34,474 --> 00:14:37,644 CDA, put in place when Internet has just begun, 231 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:40,280 protect websites are demanded for content 232 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,215 that may be posted by a third party. 233 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:47,054 Some courts have decided this immunity also includes illegal content. 234 00:14:48,121 --> 00:14:53,226 I am very aware of its immunity made by Congressunder Section 230, 235 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:57,965 although not yet applied against cases of sexual trafficking. 236 00:14:58,431 --> 00:15:01,501 The law only says, as the website operator, 237 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:04,471 I am not responsible as the publisher of 238 00:15:04,571 --> 00:15:07,240 from what people wake up on my site 239 00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:11,444 We argue, even if it's true, we don't sue you which facilitates prostitution. 240 00:15:02,048 --> 00:15:23,623 We think anyone can understand this. 241 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:27,494 We lost this case, 242 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:30,097 and that is because of the Communications Act Act. 243 00:15:30,197 --> 00:15:34,401 Judge determines this matter United States policy 244 00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:39,572 He was torn apart. 245 00:15:43,743 --> 00:15:45,212 At the same time Backpage wins his case on St. Louis, 246 00:15:58,425 --> 00:16:01,661 Nacole takes steps file his own lawsuit 247 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:04,597 against Backpage in Seattle. 248 00:16:04,697 --> 00:16:06,399 249 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,604 I know there is already a trial in Missouri, 250 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:14,274 so I thought first to contact the lawyer 251 00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:17,310 and see how it goes there. 252 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:19,346 He will not appeal this case. 253 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:22,115 He said that I should try contact a different lawyer. 254 00:16:22,282 --> 00:16:24,417 At that time, I took out the telephone book 255 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:26,653 and I started to contact a lawyer. 256 00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:28,688 I was rejected by some people. 257 00:16:29,256 --> 00:16:31,058 They say it's too big. 258 00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:34,327 I believe they might be afraid of with what happened in Missouri. 259 00:16:34,727 --> 00:16:36,263 Do not want to accept it. 260 00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:44,037 When I first arrived at the Erik office, 261 00:16:44,137 --> 00:16:46,773 This is small, small, Things that look like home. 262 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:50,243 I remember walking in and I sat on it, like, a little side of the chair, 263 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:52,312 and my mother is nervous. 264 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,147 And I think, 265 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:59,052 "Hmm, what kind of lawyers operate 266 00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:02,455 from what looks like a house turns into a law office?" 267 00:17:03,090 --> 00:17:05,292 What is Erik's first impression? 268 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:07,294 He is short. 269 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:15,335 Everyone thinks and tells me that we will lose, 270 00:17:15,435 --> 00:17:17,070 99 to 1, we will lose 271 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:18,638 He doesn't just think of it as an answer. 272 00:17:18,838 --> 00:17:21,508 Well, at first I thought, this can't be overcome 273 00:17:21,608 --> 00:17:24,244 And I just don't agree with them, completely How is it legal? made by the company millions of dollars annually help pimps sell victims of sex trafficking, 274 00:17:25,612 --> 00:17:27,747 including children. 275 00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:31,551 Why does Congress permit immunity 276 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:35,722 to a moving company in doing this? 277 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:37,190 And he said, "Let's do this. 278 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,659 279 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:42,362 280 00:17:42,462 --> 00:17:43,630 281 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:45,632 Let's stop Backpage for what they have done to you. " 282 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,834 And he's on the ship from day one. 283 00:17:50,503 --> 00:17:52,405 He's really out of seventh grade, 284 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:55,342 and he's been traded for a long time. 285 00:17:55,475 --> 00:17:56,643 And it's very heavy. with more than 20 adults every day, 286 00:17:57,977 --> 00:18:03,483 has these seventh graders 287 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:06,153 according to their wishes 288 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:07,387 And that happens. And it's real. 289 00:18:08,255 --> 00:18:09,822 Of the children we serve, 290 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,658 Nearly half of them meet their exploit online 291 00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:15,295 They use the famous 292 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:16,729 and sophisticated recruitment and treatment tactics. 293 00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:19,432 Love, charm, and violence. by violence. 294 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:29,176 They will have scouts. 295 00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:32,279 Maybe at the mall. 296 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:34,347 297 00:18:34,581 --> 00:18:36,716 298 00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,719 Fast food places like Burger King and McDonald's 299 00:18:39,819 --> 00:18:41,621 If they see low self-esteem, 300 00:18:41,721 --> 00:18:43,156 or they hold their heads 301 00:18:43,256 --> 00:18:45,158 they are running, and they don't make eye contact, 302 00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:47,227 That's what they are after. 303 00:18:47,327 --> 00:18:49,662 Frankly what we see most often is seduction 304 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,265 You use seduction, you use love. 305 00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:53,600 Are you... 306 00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:55,835 I will not say love, but I use seduction 307 00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,405 Until he feels like This person is all over the world. 308 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,640 The easiest way to control these girls is 309 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:02,275 through the use of narcotics. 310 00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:05,178 And what we see is meth and heroin 311 00:19:05,278 --> 00:19:06,379 What they call rope. 312 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:09,749 We usually see recruitment The process occurs at the methadone clinic. 313 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:11,851 We see economic instability, 314 00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:13,453 we see housing instability. 315 00:19:13,553 --> 00:19:15,288 What did you tell him to watch out for? 316 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:20,159 A man who talks about him will solve all your problems 317 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,629 Who in the world can do that? 318 00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:25,865 For many people selling sex, 319 00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:28,535 very often that's the most annoying 320 00:19:28,635 --> 00:19:30,670 of many shittier choices. 321 00:19:31,438 --> 00:19:34,207 How much money does this woman make? 322 00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:36,543 - How much did you make? - Not their money, it's mine. 323 00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:40,179 I generate an undetermined amount of money 324 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,414 That's not their money. 325 00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:46,853 Don't play with my money. 326 00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:50,823 Ever. 327 00:19:52,158 --> 00:19:54,361 When you step back and you see dynamics, 328 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:58,531 This is no less than modern slavery. 329 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:00,433 You are just a product 330 00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:03,836 Backpage is Walmart human trafficking 331 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:05,872 This is a public square. 332 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:16,683 Turn it off! Turn it off! 333 00:20:16,816 --> 00:20:20,487 Turn it off! Turn it off! Turn it off! 334 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,989 In the spring of 2012, 335 00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:25,725 some anti-trafficking groups start installing 336 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:27,727 public pressure on Backpage. 337 00:20:31,331 --> 00:20:32,699 My name is Liz McDougall, 338 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,768 and I am here on behalf of Village Voice Media Holdings, 339 00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:37,804 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 340 00:20:38,438 --> 00:20:41,908 I did not join Village Voice and Backpage 341 00:20:42,008 --> 00:20:48,648 and to retain companies to engage in illegal activities to gain profits. 342 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:53,353 I come with their commitment that I have the power and free government 343 00:20:53,453 --> 00:20:56,323 to find out the best way to combat online trade... 344 00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:59,759 I think the missing hat is that You are an important part of this problem. 345 00:21:00,527 --> 00:21:03,863 I do not deny that Backpage is part of the problem, but 346 00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:05,465 the problem is the internet. 347 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:08,635 You make a profit from this pimp, 348 00:21:08,735 --> 00:21:11,037 put these girls on your site. 349 00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:12,939 I have to tell you this is something... 350 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:14,707 This is the fourth trial I have, 351 00:21:14,841 --> 00:21:16,709 and I've said this this afternoon 352 00:21:16,809 --> 00:21:19,746 Each of my hearings, Backpage is mentioned. 353 00:21:19,879 --> 00:21:21,548 I want to dialogue with you, 354 00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:22,982 not confrontation and not an argument... 355 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:25,352 This is a hearing, so I question you 356 00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:27,820 Now, we do more than anyone else to help in battles... 357 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,356 I want to stop 358 00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:30,723 You are talking about being a native. 359 00:21:30,823 --> 00:21:32,325 You must be transparent and responsible. 360 00:21:32,425 --> 00:21:33,993 361 00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:37,029 If you don't do that, then you are really dishonest. 362 00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:39,666 Do you think about setting up riding the medicine section 363 00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:41,568 from the Backpage.com site? 364 00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:44,537 I refuse to answer that question. 365 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:47,374 What about weapons trading or arms trading section. 366 00:21:47,474 --> 00:21:49,308 I'm sorry, are we here to have sarcastic back and forth, 367 00:21:49,409 --> 00:21:51,010 or want to be exchanged useful information? 368 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:52,979 So far has not given us information 369 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,615 on the volume of what Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 370 00:21:55,748 --> 00:21:57,817 You have not given us anything information about your benefits 371 00:21:57,917 --> 00:21:59,519 You wake up and make a statement. 372 00:21:59,619 --> 00:22:01,821 How to work hearing is that we ask difficult questions. 373 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:02,889 Yes, that's how it works. 374 00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:04,657 You can ask difficult questions, 375 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:07,394 but you have to give me opportunity to reply completely, 376 00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:08,495 and you have interrupted me twice. 377 00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:10,697 I appreciate it if you let me answer completely 378 00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:12,899 I mean there is a 379 00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:15,502 protocol with National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 380 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:17,370 We are actually very proud. 381 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:20,407 We have been praised by the organization, 382 00:22:20,507 --> 00:22:22,375 CEO of that organization, 383 00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:25,978 for 2600 reports that we have made. 384 00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:30,683 NCMEC has a slightly different view from its interaction with Backpage. 385 00:22:31,651 --> 00:22:36,022 My impression is that is more interested in using 386 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,662 It becomes clear to us at NCMEC 387 00:22:42,762 --> 00:22:46,098 it's possible that Backpage won't adopt 388 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,501 one of the actions we recommend 389 00:22:48,601 --> 00:22:51,471 Discussion with Carl Ferrer, CEO Backpage, 390 00:22:51,571 --> 00:22:54,607 Often surrounding facts that the moderator 391 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:56,676 is making a report about ads 392 00:22:56,776 --> 00:22:59,912 which is described as possible children exploited 393 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,049 I see an advertisement for a young woman 394 00:23:03,149 --> 00:23:06,486 It seems like he can do it have been 14 or 15 at least once a week. 395 00:23:06,819 --> 00:23:10,156 And we will ask repeatedly, "Why is the ad still online?" 396 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:16,429 There are so many activities that people do 397 00:23:16,529 --> 00:23:19,566 to try to mobilize a response to Backpage. 398 00:23:19,666 --> 00:23:21,834 Good night all. this ten o'clock in the morning on the East Coast, 399 00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:24,771 and we start tonight with Keeping Them Honest on the internet corner 400 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:26,773 it was charged a market for pimping 401 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:29,676 to sell prostitution and exploit young women. 402 00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:33,780 Fifty-one attorneys general in the United States want to be turned off. 403 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,816 So do 19 US senators, 600 religious leaders, 404 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:39,919 and almost a quarter of a million people who signed the petition 405 00:23:40,219 --> 00:23:42,421 Pressure on the website has been built for months. 406 00:23:42,522 --> 00:23:45,157 We do everything to inhibit prostitution, 407 00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:49,962 to block exploitation women, children, sex trade. 408 00:23:50,062 --> 00:23:54,467 The internet is, unfortunately, the vehicle for this 409 00:23:54,567 --> 00:23:56,569 We try to be sheriffs. 410 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:59,839 If you see your daughter in this case, like this, what... 411 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:01,140 I will be horrified, 412 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,910 and I'm horrified for those mothers, 413 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:07,647 and my heart goes to them mother and daughter. 414 00:24:07,747 --> 00:24:11,784 I want to know how he feels who should be responsible 415 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,085 So, if it's his child, 416 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:15,154 Who do you think should be responsible? 417 00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:17,189 If that's the case your child's photo you saw? 418 00:24:18,057 --> 00:24:20,026 He puts the same information out there, 419 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:22,729 Gathering salaries, and somehow sleeping at night. 420 00:24:22,762 --> 00:24:23,963 And I don't know how he did it. 421 00:24:23,996 --> 00:24:27,667 I just want to shake it and make it understand. 422 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:30,770 But I know maybe the and dollar coins might fall. 423 00:24:31,771 --> 00:24:35,542 We are here to sue the end of the sex trade 424 00:24:35,642 --> 00:24:37,009 and we will not leave. 425 00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:40,046 Voice of the Village has a strong reputation, 426 00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:41,914 You know, because of eradicating corruption, 427 00:24:42,014 --> 00:24:44,717 and for them now to do this, 428 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,654 and in some ways promote sex trafficking 429 00:24:47,754 --> 00:24:53,492 because you allowed this ad What happened was unfortunate. 430 00:24:56,162 --> 00:25:01,534 Sound plays a role in New York City journalism is unequaled. 431 00:25:01,768 --> 00:25:06,105 Everyone on the left in New York reads It is the Bible about a movement. 432 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:09,842 As the press should be, this is part of our _ mandate to feed politicians 433 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,143 and check their strength. 434 00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:12,879 That's what we have to do. 435 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:17,016 That is paper handled the problem you care about 436 00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:19,919 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 437 00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:22,622 Not enough until recently, I have to say it. 438 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:29,095 In 2005, the Village Voice was sold to the New Times based in Phoenix, 439 00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:31,948 alternative newspapers chain co-founded 440 00:25:31,949 --> 00:25:34,701 by Michael Lacey and owned by Jim Larkin. 441 00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:40,607 The New Times, like The Village Voice, has a progressive tradition, 442 00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:42,775 anti-formation report 443 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:45,878 I call them cowboys from Phoenix. 444 00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:48,715 But I don't understand how they business operations succeed 445 00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:51,550 When we study Backpage, it is on the Internet. 446 00:25:51,651 --> 00:25:54,053 It's not something we can see, it's not in the paper. 447 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:58,024 Incoming income really from the book 448 00:25:58,124 --> 00:25:59,759 in terms of what we can see. 449 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:03,830 We always have personal advertisements and display ads 450 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:05,164 which is a massage parlor. 451 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:08,300 Some of them are for prostitutes, 452 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,771 But many of them only people offer invitations to sex. 453 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:15,875 Adults and their sexual practices and preferences are one thing. 454 00:26:16,342 --> 00:26:18,244 When we find out about Backpage, 455 00:26:18,344 --> 00:26:20,246 There is something else fully happening there 456 00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:23,015 Real people, apparently, young girls trade 457 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:26,352 Immediately, Lacey and her people 458 00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:29,656 start talking about how they believe in prostitution 459 00:26:32,191 --> 00:26:34,994 The owner of Backpage can talk about this all day 460 00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,295 That is freedom of speech. 461 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:39,932 They seek journalism cover what they do 462 00:26:40,032 --> 00:26:44,170 But it's illegal sell children for sex. 463 00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:45,104 Period. 464 00:26:45,872 --> 00:26:47,306 This is child abuse. 465 00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:49,976 My father, Norman Mailer, 466 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:52,845 is one of three people who started this writing. 467 00:26:53,746 --> 00:26:56,015 And this is very difficult for me to get here today 468 00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:59,018 because I always love Voice of the Village. 469 00:26:59,118 --> 00:27:01,821 So, for the owner Desa Suara Media, 470 00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:07,126 You hold an inheritance from this article is in your hands 471 00:27:08,327 --> 00:27:10,329 Please do the right thing. 472 00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:12,064 Take it. 473 00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:18,671 In the same month in Seattle, 474 00:27:18,771 --> 00:27:22,041 Nacole starts a telephone campaign to his state senator 475 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:25,011 on behalf of Senate Bill 6251, 476 00:27:25,111 --> 00:27:29,348 who will need a website for get age verification for sex ads. 477 00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:35,154 The aim is to make sure children are not advertised online 478 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:42,194 I am the mother of a teenage victim Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 479 00:27:42,294 --> 00:27:44,663 I hear you say about the First Amendment, 480 00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:48,835 and I ask "who Sound we protect?" 481 00:27:49,135 --> 00:27:51,838 Do you protect the website it makes millions? 482 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:56,142 These girls need sound and I ask that you become his voice 483 00:27:57,209 --> 00:28:00,679 Washington State is enacted a first law of its kind 484 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:04,116 because of the many reports we have underage girls 485 00:28:04,216 --> 00:28:07,053 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 486 00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:10,723 And when the bill passes, I'm very proud of 487 00:28:10,957 --> 00:28:13,259 I am proud of the state of Washington. 488 00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:18,397 Backpage.com is making something like $ 30 million a year. 489 00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:20,800 They will retreat. 490 00:28:22,969 --> 00:28:24,136 But let them push. 491 00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:31,043 There is a new battle line Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 492 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:34,213 Washington State issues a law It will take effect today 493 00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:37,249 it will require Backpage to verify age 494 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:39,485 people advertise in the section of adult services 495 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:44,023 This is designed to prevent children from being advertised online 496 00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:45,689 That's something that we've explored 497 00:28:45,691 --> 00:28:47,327 for months and continue to explore. 498 00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:48,995 When you talk about internet... 499 00:28:49,095 --> 00:28:50,496 What does it mean, "continue to explore"? 500 00:28:50,596 --> 00:28:52,832 You've been doing business for a very long time 501 00:28:52,932 --> 00:28:55,802 There are many people who you want you to do this before. 502 00:28:55,902 --> 00:28:58,270 This is not the first time you have done it ever considered this idea 503 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,873 So why can't just say, "Yes, we will do this"? 504 00:29:00,973 --> 00:29:03,109 This will cost money, but if so that's the right thing to do. 505 00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:04,743 Money is not a problem. 506 00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:07,113 The problem is how are you functionally applying this 507 00:29:07,213 --> 00:29:10,382 If you have knowledge and understanding of how the internet works, 508 00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:13,920 This is a practical impossibility in the internet world. 509 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,323 Now, I'm definitely not the internet Experts, but I'm not an idiot. 510 00:29:17,423 --> 00:29:19,992 Obviously for me, it seems this is a matter of money 511 00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:24,130 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 512 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:26,776 will do everything in their power to 513 00:29:26,777 --> 00:29:29,201 make sure that this bill is not signed 514 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:32,691 Backpage argues that Senate Bill 6251 515 00:29:32,693 --> 00:29:35,809 will violate Section 230 of CDA. 516 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:40,112 That they are not responsible for third party posts. 517 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:43,983 The court agrees, and the bill dies. 518 00:30:00,199 --> 00:30:02,835 ♪ There is a woman ♪ 519 00:30:03,169 --> 00:30:05,204 ♪ A woman like ♪ 520 00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:09,108 ♪ With perfect etiquette ♪ 521 00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:14,313 ♪ He can cook eight dishes ♪ 522 00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:19,318 ♪ And never sweat ♪ 523 00:30:21,954 --> 00:30:25,124 ♪ Good luck to you God's blessing for you ♪ 524 00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:28,460 Mama! Mother! 525 00:30:30,596 --> 00:30:33,399 I want to blame myself for drinking my father, 526 00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:35,902 for my mother to cry all the time 527 00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:37,136 and emotional disturbances. 528 00:30:38,971 --> 00:30:39,768 There is no handbook to tell you 529 00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:40,840 what happens when your daughter is raped, 530 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:42,508 and all this happens. 531 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:45,878 I also want to blame myself for the man who has taken me 532 00:30:45,978 --> 00:30:48,047 You know, I want to do it blame myself for that 533 00:30:49,048 --> 00:30:52,184 You walk around the house with 800 pounds of elephants in the room 534 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:53,385 no one talks about it 535 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,556 All the time my daughter trauma is imagined. 536 00:30:57,656 --> 00:30:59,391 And we have experienced trauma. 537 00:30:59,491 --> 00:31:01,027 We don't know how to handle it. 538 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,929 And we don't know how to help it overcome it 539 00:31:03,062 --> 00:31:05,364 I just tried to hold it together as well as possible. 540 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:10,869 Try wrapping my head around how you take children 541 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:13,372 That is a soccer star, violinist, 542 00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:17,476 and 36 hours later, he is being sold on the 543 00:31:17,643 --> 00:31:22,181 website My favorite hobby is soccer and violin. 544 00:31:22,281 --> 00:31:24,951 My favorite song is Crank That by Soulja Boy. 545 00:31:25,684 --> 00:31:28,587 When I grow up, I want to be a doctor. 546 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:34,026 There is something missing a piece of his soul is lost. 547 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:40,266 In September 2012, 548 00:31:40,366 --> 00:31:43,435 Village Voice Owners, Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin 549 00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:46,939 decide to turn off Backpage to a separate company. 550 00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:51,443 They leave The Village Voice, but choose to stay with Backpage. 551 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,947 They can't just leave of real money 552 00:31:56,548 --> 00:31:58,384 These are the people who have present themselves to us like, 553 00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:01,353 "We are very concerned about journalism. We are very concerned about the news." 554 00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:03,255 And they decided to go with this money 555 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:05,024 for this really terrible 556 00:32:06,025 --> 00:32:07,293 sex marketing operations that they are running 557 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,062 The fact that Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 558 00:32:10,162 --> 00:32:12,431 who have forever tried to say, 559 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:15,934 "We fight for media rights and we fight for freedom of speech," 560 00:32:16,035 --> 00:32:20,539 when they decide to divert from Village Voice, they say, 561 00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:22,074 "We live with Backpage." 562 00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:24,443 Don't say I'm not in it for money. 563 00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:27,046 Dealing with Lacey and listening to all this 564 00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:29,248 about how he is like a hard-nosed journalist. 565 00:32:29,348 --> 00:32:31,217 "We solve many stories," things like that, 566 00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:33,085 and then see it go 567 00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:35,521 from one of the most distinguished the name of the newspaper 568 00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,656 in history 20th Century Journalism 569 00:32:37,756 --> 00:32:40,192 to enter sex ads just looks like, 570 00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:42,594 "wow, man, this world More chaotic than I thought." 571 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:48,200 It is also possible to see this, Really, just in a slightly different way, 572 00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:51,370 which is just as sad, maybe even more sad. 573 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:56,142 It is possible that Mike Lacey indeed believes in good journalism 574 00:32:56,242 --> 00:33:00,012 and that is why he created it an alternative newspaper kingdom 575 00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:03,249 But what's really sad in the end, 576 00:33:03,349 --> 00:33:07,253 he prefers to have Backpage rather than have a real newspaper. 577 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,222 It must be difficult to release it 578 00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:13,392 because you have been running for a long time, for a decade. 579 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:18,697 Well, I think is hard to let go, 580 00:33:19,165 --> 00:33:22,634 but believe me, the person we are doing is happy to let us let go. 581 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,679 At the end of 2012, 582 00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:36,715 public pressure on Backpage seems to evaporate, 583 00:33:38,284 --> 00:33:42,088 although it continues, dominates the market for sex ads. 584 00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:47,259 There is a feeling of despair that starts to be arranged in a little. 585 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,462 And so far great facilitators exist, 586 00:33:50,562 --> 00:33:54,366 we fall short like a field from where we need to get to. 587 00:34:06,345 --> 00:34:09,681 In March 2013, The back page file was a 588 00:34:09,781 --> 00:34:12,651 ask the court to ignore the Nacole case. 589 00:34:13,452 --> 00:34:15,654 I will not say that I am an expert today, 590 00:34:15,754 --> 00:34:18,056 but one of the problems we face 591 00:34:18,157 --> 00:34:22,761 is Section 230 of the Communication Decency Law of 1996. 592 00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:24,730 Somewhere in the bill, 593 00:34:24,830 --> 00:34:28,066 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 594 00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:32,171 The reason Congress applied it Section 230 in the first place 595 00:34:32,271 --> 00:34:35,107 is because the lawsuit was submitted by Stratton Oakmont, 596 00:34:35,207 --> 00:34:38,577 boiler room securities operation was founded by Jordan Belfort, 597 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,213 better known as The Wolf of Wall Street. 598 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:43,449 - The show continues! - yes! 599 00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:46,685 This is my house! 600 00:34:48,154 --> 00:34:52,090 They will need damn destroyers balls to take me out of here 601 00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:53,759 Damn them! 602 00:34:55,727 --> 00:34:58,264 A bulletin board, with the name Prodigy, 603 00:34:58,364 --> 00:35:00,399 this is the early days from the internet, 604 00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:03,235 accept a post from one of its members 605 00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:07,273 which basically says that Belfort, Axis and people at Stratton Oakmont 606 00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:09,775 manipulate stocks and that they are criminals. 607 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,678 The court finds that Prodigy is responsible 608 00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:16,282 because of its failure to delete comments posted about Stratton Oakmont, 609 00:35:16,382 --> 00:35:18,350 and the Belfort firm wins this case. 610 00:35:19,185 --> 00:35:22,654 This decision means that the court, before the CDA is promulgated, 611 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,590 find that a website can be responsible 612 00:35:24,690 --> 00:35:27,426 for third party content posted on their site. 613 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,329 If Facebook is sued at any time 614 00:35:30,429 --> 00:35:33,532 fifth graders say something bad about their teacher, 615 00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:35,667 there will be many unnecessary lawsuits 616 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:39,438 And the law creates a safe port 617 00:35:39,538 --> 00:35:43,742 for people who act as channels for internet content 618 00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:48,314 Especially for the benefits from most websites 619 00:35:48,414 --> 00:35:51,717 that has nothing to do with illegal content 620 00:35:51,917 --> 00:35:55,754 The most ironic thing is that posting is correct, 621 00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:59,157 because of Belfort and others Stratton Oakmont pleaded guilty 622 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:01,293 to manipulate that security. 623 00:36:01,393 --> 00:36:02,661 And who is chasing Belfort? 624 00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:03,729 Well, that will be me. 625 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:12,871 One of the theories we have 626 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,942 is the Backpage, actually, in conspiracy with pimps, 627 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:20,512 that posting rules are not designed to prevent 628 00:36:20,612 --> 00:36:22,614 or to stop human trafficking, 629 00:36:22,948 --> 00:36:25,784 but actually, designed to be a guide for pimps 630 00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:31,423 to enable them to design which ads help them avoid law enforcement. 631 00:36:31,523 --> 00:36:35,694 So instead of saying, "Come here, and we will sell sex for $ 100," 632 00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:38,330 This ad will say something more dangerous, like 633 00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:42,200 "Face down, lift up, Come see Tasha, $ 80 special." 634 00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:45,437 There is a whole system of code words 635 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,706 like "fresh" or "off the boat" 636 00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:50,376 which should show that someone under age 637 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:52,944 Everyone in the industry and who buys 638 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:54,746 knows exactly what the signal means. 639 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:03,355 Emojis is a new visual language. 640 00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:05,391 So, roses are not roses, 641 00:37:05,491 --> 00:37:07,993 and umbrellas have nothing to do with rain 642 00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:09,428 That code 643 00:37:09,628 --> 00:37:10,862 You can't have 30 minutes. 644 00:37:11,997 --> 00:37:13,532 However, you could say HH, which means half an hour. 645 00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:15,667 Without saying it's okay, 646 00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:18,770 it's basically known this code is okay 647 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:21,907 You know, EMU is a new one a way to get words. 648 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:25,944 So, the small watermark, "no umbrella," is permitted 649 00:37:26,044 --> 00:37:27,012 And what does that mean? 650 00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:28,380 There are no condoms 651 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,283 I don't think many of us stop 652 00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,486 and think, "This can be our sister or our brother." 653 00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:36,655 That doesn't hit the house for me too much until I start to realize that this might be me. 654 00:37:36,755 --> 00:37:38,890 Yes. 655 00:37:39,458 --> 00:37:40,359 I drove him to his friend's house 656 00:37:59,578 --> 00:38:02,414 and he must be at home Right after the mall closes. 657 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:05,851 I contacted the police, I contacted the FBI. 658 00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:11,523 I started calling several numbers in the phone log 659 00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:15,494 660 00:38:15,594 --> 00:38:18,063 and I told two men to tell me 661 00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:23,335 that they get my daughter the phone number of Backpage. 662 00:38:23,869 --> 00:38:28,807 Our three clients are about 15 years 663 00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:32,511 when they are first Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 664 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:35,747 We say that they are engaged in affirmative action 665 00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:39,651 which directly violates a criminal law, 666 00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:42,988 Law on Protection of Trafficking Victims. 667 00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:45,857 They say they are not responsible 668 00:38:45,957 --> 00:38:48,594 for what people put on their site. 669 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:50,762 This is much deeper than that. 670 00:38:50,862 --> 00:38:53,799 What is on their site affects and hurts, 671 00:38:53,899 --> 00:38:56,568 and trauma to many people. 672 00:38:57,403 --> 00:39:00,338 Currently the ad involves children posted, 673 00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:04,843 responses from potential customers start to enter in seconds 674 00:39:04,943 --> 00:39:08,580 Ads will live until approved, 675 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,017 anywhere from 30 seconds to two hours. 676 00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,886 There are customers who see the children 677 00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:17,088 before moderation ever happened. 678 00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:22,027 It's easy to use Backpage because you sit alone at home, 679 00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:25,931 in your own free time, and indeed is almost like shopping on Amazon. 680 00:39:26,031 --> 00:39:29,501 One of our plaintiffs told us, "People used to order me in Backpage 681 00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:31,837 as easy as you can order pizza." 682 00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:34,906 I've been addicted to watching porn. 683 00:39:35,006 --> 00:39:36,742 It's like a gateway drug. 684 00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:39,745 Have you ever bought sex from minors? 685 00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:42,514 No, I agree. 686 00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:44,416 That's what I got arrested. 687 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,819 Because you were arrested, I suspect your wife knows. 688 00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:49,855 - Yes. - What about your children? 689 00:39:49,955 --> 00:39:52,591 My youngest child ran in the bathroom and vomited. 690 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:54,560 In America, 691 00:39:55,461 --> 00:39:57,729 one in seven men 692 00:39:57,829 --> 00:40:02,400 say that they have bought illegal commercial sex 693 00:40:02,634 --> 00:40:03,635 They are white. They are married. 694 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,871 They live in the suburbs and they have children. 695 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,640 They are not people you suspect. 696 00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:10,609 I am already from the priests, 697 00:40:10,709 --> 00:40:13,512 from lawyers to politicians. 698 00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:16,982 Many men buy unconscious sex the danger they cause 699 00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:22,954 I want that to be clear and known My daughter, Jane Doe, was raped. 700 00:40:37,135 --> 00:40:41,172 Three of Jane Doe's victims entered Boston was represented by Ropes & Gray, 701 00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:45,877 one of the oldest and most prestigious law firms in the country. 702 00:40:48,714 --> 00:40:51,950 Our goal is to set the Backpage 703 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:54,920 responsible for what has happened to these children 704 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:01,827 There are several things The backpage does it 705 00:41:01,927 --> 00:41:06,532 that allows these pimps more successfully victims of traffic 706 00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:13,138 Let them use prepaid credit cards, 707 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:17,609 and to send a telephone number not as a digit digit 708 00:41:17,709 --> 00:41:19,678 but by spelling a certain number out. 709 00:41:19,778 --> 00:41:24,750 Like 251 it could be T-W-O and then number five and O-N-E. 710 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:28,520 And what it does is obstruction law enforcement capability 711 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:29,655 to track phone numbers 712 00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:31,256 Another thing they do is to let Bitcoin. 713 00:41:35,093 --> 00:41:39,264 Also, we accused him Backpage starts a scheme 714 00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:40,899 to deceive law enforcement 715 00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:45,236 while they increase their markets share to become a dominant player. 716 00:41:45,771 --> 00:41:49,007 One of the things they Is as part of that strategy, 717 00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:51,810 is that they employ general advisor, Liz McDougall, 718 00:41:51,977 --> 00:41:54,680 to describe themselves as a moving company 719 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,882 in an effort to internet police. 720 00:41:57,148 --> 00:42:00,886 And they employ it to be, in effect, the face of the company. 721 00:42:00,986 --> 00:42:04,255 I met Liz McDougall when I was Deputy Mayor for New York City, 722 00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:07,693 and he is very beautiful, and he is very credible. 723 00:42:07,793 --> 00:42:12,163 When he told me all these things they did to protect children. 724 00:42:12,598 --> 00:42:15,967 I think they call themselves, "Internet Sheriff." 725 00:42:18,937 --> 00:42:21,873 Well, boy, pleasure is over. 726 00:42:22,307 --> 00:42:24,142 Now, I just got a new iPad 727 00:42:24,242 --> 00:42:25,711 and then I stop and I say, 728 00:42:25,811 --> 00:42:29,180 "I thought I'd buy a 13-year-old child. 729 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,682 " How do you explain this? " 730 00:42:31,216 --> 00:42:33,118 And he looked surprised 731 00:42:33,218 --> 00:42:36,087 when people accuse companies facilitate human trafficking. 732 00:42:36,187 --> 00:42:37,923 Especially child trafficking. 733 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,926 And he, "Oh, me, let me see that. 734 00:42:41,026 --> 00:42:43,662 That's wrong. Something is wrong. 735 00:42:43,762 --> 00:42:44,896 We will fix it." 736 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:46,865 That's nonsense. 737 00:42:51,837 --> 00:42:53,004 Unfortunately I have to say it 738 00:42:54,139 --> 00:42:56,174 Backpage's legal strategy has been very effective This is a mystery to me Backpage continues to win, 739 00:42:56,274 --> 00:42:59,210 and Backpage continue win with such a big style. 740 00:42:59,678 --> 00:43:04,182 A very expensive lawyer, 741 00:43:04,282 --> 00:43:07,252 cloaking yourself in First Amendment and Section 230. 742 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:13,158 As far as legal strategy, I think it's brilliant, 743 00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:16,361 Because it has succeeded. 744 00:43:16,461 --> 00:43:17,729 But is that right? No. That is not true. 745 00:43:17,863 --> 00:43:20,331 In Seattle, an trial is scheduled in the case of Nacole, 746 00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,941 almost two years after that was originally submitted 747 00:43:30,041 --> 00:43:33,078 748 00:43:34,379 --> 00:43:36,181 Washington Supreme Court 749 00:43:37,749 --> 00:43:41,119 will decide whether Section 230 of CDA must protect Backpage. 750 00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:45,724 NCMEC, which is no longer entered discussion with Backpage, 751 00:43:45,824 --> 00:43:48,193 short file in support of the Nacole case, 752 00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:51,396 together with Covenant House, Shared Hope, and others. 753 00:43:52,831 --> 00:43:55,801 Do you have short archival ambivalence, 754 00:43:55,901 --> 00:43:57,803 remember your history with Backpage? 755 00:43:58,103 --> 00:43:58,970 No. 756 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,155 He reached out for us and asked whether we were willing to help him Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 757 00:44:17,488 --> 00:44:19,991 This is probably the most important case that we handle in our legal career. 758 00:44:20,458 --> 00:44:25,997 We see CDA to find out, You know, how can we overcome this? 759 00:44:26,264 --> 00:44:29,701 There are 300-plus cases out there going the other way. 760 00:44:29,801 --> 00:44:32,670 Everyone wants to do oral arguments, 761 00:44:39,144 --> 00:44:41,813 762 00:44:41,913 --> 00:44:44,816 That is always the type of cherry on ice cream there 763 00:44:44,916 --> 00:44:48,253 Initially, I thought it was more experienced Appellate lawyers had to do it. 764 00:44:48,353 --> 00:44:51,356 Basically I am a street lawyer when I get there. 765 00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:54,692 Erik insisted that he wanted to refute this case, 766 00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:56,261 and we talk about it. 767 00:44:56,361 --> 00:44:57,262 He is stubborn. 768 00:44:58,363 --> 00:45:00,098 A stubborn man. 769 00:45:01,767 --> 00:45:06,037 They finally decided that, you know, I Can advance and make oral arguments. 770 00:45:19,951 --> 00:45:21,753 I remember being in the courthouse, 771 00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,189 and there are people outside holding the sign 772 00:45:24,289 --> 00:45:27,225 and I think, you know, how fun having all this support. 773 00:45:27,358 --> 00:45:29,494 I mean, this is the Supreme Court. I mean, this is very big. 774 00:45:29,594 --> 00:45:30,996 I am trained 775 00:45:31,262 --> 00:45:34,732 Tom and I go alone, and pray. 776 00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:42,073 J.S., S.L., and L.C. against Village Voice Media Holdings, LLC. 777 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,009 Hopefully it can please the court, my name is Jim Grant, 778 00:45:44,109 --> 00:45:45,811 I am here on behalf of the applicants, 779 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:49,247 Village Voice Media Incorporated, Backpage.com and New Times Media. 780 00:45:50,715 --> 00:45:52,750 Congress makes clear policies choices in enacting Part 230 of 781 00:45:54,619 --> 00:45:56,528 Communication Agreement Act, and the choice 782 00:45:56,529 --> 00:45:58,356 is to preserve free speech on the internet, 783 00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:04,162 Congress decides to provide online services provider of immunity for their actions 784 00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:06,331 for content posted by third parties. 785 00:46:06,431 --> 00:46:09,067 The point is when that third party posts are online, 786 00:46:09,167 --> 00:46:10,501 You can't sue a website. 787 00:46:11,069 --> 00:46:13,972 Lawyers for Backpage do their normal arguments 788 00:46:14,072 --> 00:46:15,807 that they are here to protect children, 789 00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:18,243 and they are protected under CDA 790 00:46:18,343 --> 00:46:21,512 Your client will not say it a straight face that is not realized 791 00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:24,515 The companion service is really something else most of the time. 792 00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:25,917 I will say that... 793 00:46:27,986 --> 00:46:31,890 Surely we all know it's haram things happen through the internet 794 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:35,160 and that has happened when other things have happened. 795 00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:37,528 Type of protection given 230, 796 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:41,399 This is a blanket immunity, and this can feel extreme in some cases. 797 00:46:41,499 --> 00:46:43,935 You know, the more extreme you take hypothetically, 798 00:46:44,035 --> 00:46:45,070 the more questionable it can be seen. 799 00:46:45,170 --> 00:46:48,139 If you make life from tobacco films 800 00:46:48,539 --> 00:46:52,878 because you pulled it as your content to your website, 801 00:46:52,978 --> 00:46:54,846 and that's how you make your money do 802 00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:57,148 It's like a partner crime, if you want 803 00:46:57,248 --> 00:46:58,416 Hopefully please court. 804 00:47:00,051 --> 00:47:03,488 My name is Erik Bauer, and I represent small respondents in this matter. 805 00:47:03,588 --> 00:47:06,091 When Erik stands up to argue, I feel happy. 806 00:47:06,191 --> 00:47:09,260 We have prepared it for so long, and it's only time. 807 00:47:09,427 --> 00:47:12,330 I've never seen it so is emotionally involved in a case 808 00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:14,832 This is not the size building or ad size, 809 00:47:15,166 --> 00:47:18,904 it's determination and passion is put into battle 810 00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:22,207 My client is in class seven and nine 811 00:47:22,307 --> 00:47:27,278 when they are controlled by adults professional sex traders, pimps 812 00:47:27,445 --> 00:47:31,016 So why is Backpage responsible? 813 00:47:31,116 --> 00:47:33,451 Backpage claims that they have immunity 814 00:47:33,551 --> 00:47:37,022 to help pimps sell children on their site. 815 00:47:37,122 --> 00:47:41,927 Our assessment is, Your Honor, that is they are responsible, at least in part, 816 00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:44,295 for the second creation of this ad 817 00:47:44,395 --> 00:47:46,197 and for the development of these ads. 818 00:47:47,732 --> 00:47:51,069 This post rule called is on the Backpage.com site, 819 00:47:51,169 --> 00:47:55,573 they are actually instructions for pimping on how to post successful ads 820 00:47:55,673 --> 00:48:00,145 One of their rules says, Don't advertise increase in time in 15 minutes. 821 00:48:00,678 --> 00:48:02,147 Hey, it's a bit short. 822 00:48:02,247 --> 00:48:04,950 Where can you escort someone in 15 minutes? 823 00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:07,986 They don't want that to happen Obviously, there are many red flags. 824 00:48:08,086 --> 00:48:10,355 Backpage says that, "Legal escort services 825 00:48:10,455 --> 00:48:13,258 and if someone wants to do something illegal, it's not our fault." 826 00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:14,459 What is your response to that? 827 00:48:15,927 --> 00:48:18,964 This is prostitution in disguise as a companion, whatever the companion. 828 00:48:19,064 --> 00:48:23,334 I mean, what are these people? wholesale children 829 00:48:23,434 --> 00:48:26,004 in Washington State or not? 830 00:48:26,104 --> 00:48:27,438 Do they do it on purpose? 831 00:48:28,273 --> 00:48:31,409 And I remember leaving there thinking, 832 00:48:31,509 --> 00:48:34,179 we have this, we get this 833 00:48:34,312 --> 00:48:38,249 It has been like a hard struggle, because on every occasion they have won. 834 00:48:39,250 --> 00:48:40,585 Then we start waiting. 835 00:48:50,161 --> 00:48:55,300 In December 2014, Backpage, which now operates in 88 countries, 836 00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,003 reportedly sold to Dutch companies. 837 00:48:59,437 --> 00:49:04,109 According to a Dallas newspaper, Backpage CEO, Carl Ferrer, 838 00:49:04,209 --> 00:49:06,177 will continue to run the company. 839 00:49:08,146 --> 00:49:09,981 With a long question list, 840 00:49:10,081 --> 00:49:13,985 we are looking for a Backpage CEO, Carl Ferrer brings us here 841 00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:17,055 Carl Ferrer has refused some of our interview requests 842 00:49:17,155 --> 00:49:18,623 so we came here to Amsterdam. 843 00:49:18,723 --> 00:49:21,259 - Carl? Carl Ferrer? - Yes. 844 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:22,994 Hi, we've been looking for you 845 00:49:23,094 --> 00:49:24,329 - Oh yeah. - do you have a minute? 846 00:49:24,429 --> 00:49:26,331 I am Gloria Riviera from ABC News. 847 00:49:26,697 --> 00:49:28,399 We just want to ask a few questions. 848 00:49:28,666 --> 00:49:29,967 There are no comments. 849 00:49:31,036 --> 00:49:32,237 You know, law enforcement tells us 850 00:49:33,738 --> 00:49:36,074 underage girls traded on Backpage.com, your company. 851 00:49:36,174 --> 00:49:37,142 There are no comments. 852 00:49:38,543 --> 00:49:39,744 We see real life examples of this past week... 853 00:49:40,978 --> 00:49:43,548 It takes a while to realize that I am not a prostitute I don't like that word. 854 00:49:44,115 --> 00:49:45,316 I'm still small 855 00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:47,418 At first I was like, "Why did I run away?" 856 00:49:48,086 --> 00:49:50,555 The reality is that children all over America 857 00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:54,292 is sneaking out of the house all the time. 858 00:49:54,392 --> 00:49:56,294 I'm just a child and shouldn't be No one has done this to me. 859 00:49:56,394 --> 00:49:58,663 860 00:49:59,197 --> 00:50:03,301 Has been traded has caused my daughter has anger problems 861 00:50:04,269 --> 00:50:06,371 He becomes very closed. 862 00:50:06,471 --> 00:50:08,439 Children at school find out what happened, 863 00:50:08,539 --> 00:50:10,108 so we go to school at home. 864 00:50:11,476 --> 00:50:14,579 Friends, they call me horrible names, "prostitutes" and "prostitutes," and... 865 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:18,349 and that is only a lack of information from their side. 866 00:50:18,449 --> 00:50:21,152 There must be people who feel it's your fault 867 00:50:21,252 --> 00:50:24,589 And that's another reason why don't you talk about it 868 00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:29,327 And that's why I don't want to speak about that if I don't need to. 869 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,231 It has been struggling to keep it safe and keep it alive and to keep him away from life. 870 00:50:33,331 --> 00:50:35,733 He is stuck at my side when no one else does it. 871 00:50:36,667 --> 00:50:39,704 I lost my virginity and was raped, 872 00:50:40,105 --> 00:50:42,707 and me... I don't know 873 00:50:42,807 --> 00:50:46,577 874 00:50:46,744 --> 00:50:48,646 I definitely see... 875 00:50:51,149 --> 00:50:53,451 Sex is different now, I don't know. 876 00:50:53,551 --> 00:50:58,256 Children in high school are so crazy about with sex all the time, and I just... 877 00:50:58,523 --> 00:50:59,557 I don't know 878 00:51:00,558 --> 00:51:02,327 I only saw it is completely different now 879 00:51:02,427 --> 00:51:05,330 That's not everything everyone will feel it. 880 00:51:06,864 --> 00:51:08,662 I don't want anyone to go through 881 00:51:08,664 --> 00:51:10,502 what my daughter must go through. 882 00:51:11,702 --> 00:51:14,605 Given the opportunity to talk with Backpage, 883 00:51:14,705 --> 00:51:19,644 I will tell them that on April 7, 2010, 884 00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:23,814 they change our family life forever. 885 00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:29,820 We will never be our family before my daughter is gone, 886 00:51:30,521 --> 00:51:32,523 and before he was sold on the site. 887 00:51:33,491 --> 00:51:38,429 CDA has given them The most recent in this case, 888 00:51:38,696 --> 00:51:44,235 and I'm here to tell them, As a parent, I'm not okay with that. 889 00:51:45,403 --> 00:51:49,474 I will only ask the same thing questions my daughter asks you 890 00:51:51,209 --> 00:51:53,144 What will you do if it is your child? 891 00:52:01,752 --> 00:52:03,888 In April 2015, 892 00:52:03,988 --> 00:52:07,692 The US Senate starts investigating online sex trafficking Their investigation takes them to Backpage. 893 00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:12,397 The more you hear about this 894 00:52:12,797 --> 00:52:14,599 and increasing incidence of sex trafficking 895 00:52:14,699 --> 00:52:17,268 more and more Backpages appear. 896 00:52:17,702 --> 00:52:19,270 We live in a border country 897 00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:21,272 where many of these cross borders Trade in sex takes place. 898 00:52:21,372 --> 00:52:25,142 So when we say, "How can this happen?", 899 00:52:25,243 --> 00:52:26,911 we realize this is coming from ads in Backpage. 900 00:52:27,011 --> 00:52:30,581 We don't deal with prostitution, we deal with human slavery. 901 00:52:30,681 --> 00:52:33,684 902 00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:36,487 Is Backpage an innocent facilitator 903 00:52:36,587 --> 00:52:39,624 or do they really have a more active role? in making the type of ad that is actually being placed? 904 00:52:39,724 --> 00:52:43,361 Do they have clean hands here? 905 00:52:43,794 --> 00:52:45,796 The court said that the Congress could protect children who were exploited 906 00:53:00,745 --> 00:53:05,583 or can protect the internet. 907 00:53:05,683 --> 00:53:07,818 And that's what chooses to protect the internet. 908 00:53:07,918 --> 00:53:10,655 Now that statement really pisses me off, 909 00:53:11,656 --> 00:53:15,192 because I don't think Congress does something like that. 910 00:53:16,294 --> 00:53:18,863 He is frustrated, because he feels as if 911 00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:29,574 The judge does not understand what he is trying to argue. 912 00:53:30,475 --> 00:53:35,946 The fact that Ropes & Gray The missing is actually revelation 913 00:53:36,547 --> 00:53:40,217 How many court systems need to be trained 914 00:53:40,318 --> 00:53:42,920 about child sex trade. 915 00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:44,655 916 00:53:46,023 --> 00:53:48,459 So, the decision is not very surprising, 917 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,528 it's very much disappointing, though 918 00:53:50,628 --> 00:53:51,996 You think he will say, "I already have it"? 919 00:53:52,096 --> 00:53:53,364 Not possible. 920 00:53:53,464 --> 00:53:54,799 - He will never give up. - He won't give up 921 00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:07,878 Net Income for Backpage reaches the highest level of all time in 2015. 922 00:54:08,813 --> 00:54:11,749 That is, until Sheriff Tom Dart in Chicago, 923 00:54:11,949 --> 00:54:15,720 frustrated with the number of victims of sex trafficking he found 924 00:54:16,454 --> 00:54:18,689 decide to take the problem into his own hands 925 00:54:21,992 --> 00:54:24,695 More and more sex industries 926 00:54:24,929 --> 00:54:27,865 has been moved from to the internet 927 00:54:27,998 --> 00:54:30,000 We answer ads after ads, after ads, 928 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,371 and we found it every case, everyone, 929 00:54:33,471 --> 00:54:36,273 Actually, someone who is is a prostitute herself, 930 00:54:36,374 --> 00:54:37,642 someone who is traded. 931 00:54:38,843 --> 00:54:39,910 We will respond to an advertisement, That is always a crime. 932 00:54:41,145 --> 00:54:42,580 Crapshoot is whether it is an adult or a small child. 933 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,384 Sheriff realizes that something that needs to be done 934 00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:49,754 Sheriff Dart sends to stop and stop writing 935 00:54:49,854 --> 00:54:51,456 to MasterCard and Visa 936 00:54:51,556 --> 00:54:53,458 inform them that they have done business 937 00:54:53,558 --> 00:54:55,760 with companies involved in human trafficking. 938 00:54:56,126 --> 00:54:59,209 And as a result, both Visa and Mastercard 939 00:54:59,210 --> 00:55:01,999 stop doing business with Backpage. 940 00:55:03,434 --> 00:55:06,537 Backpage loses all income from credit card companies, 941 00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:08,706 a temporary blow to his income. 942 00:55:09,707 --> 00:55:12,343 Then start offering free adult ads, 943 00:55:12,443 --> 00:55:16,381 with upgrades that must be paid by personal checks or Bitcoin. 944 00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:19,550 The important thing is that the action is 945 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:21,819 it is a number of Fortune 500 companies 946 00:55:21,919 --> 00:55:25,423 say that business, which they believe there is illegal action happening 947 00:55:25,523 --> 00:55:26,791 and they will not support it. 948 00:55:26,891 --> 00:55:28,793 Backpage sues Sheriff Dart 949 00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:32,863 claim that his actions are a _ First Amendment violation. 950 00:55:33,664 --> 00:55:36,401 Now in the trial and the court will decide 951 00:55:36,501 --> 00:55:37,735 where it will go 952 00:55:38,903 --> 00:55:40,538 He put his neck on the cutting block. 953 00:55:41,706 --> 00:55:43,007 He does what he thinks right in every way. 954 00:55:50,147 --> 00:55:52,339 Back to Seattle, it's been three years now 955 00:55:52,341 --> 00:55:54,586 since the Nacole case was first filed. 956 00:55:54,985 --> 00:55:58,423 He is waiting for a decision from the Supreme Court of Washington. 957 00:55:59,156 --> 00:56:02,092 Time goes on, and you have the day you like, 958 00:56:02,192 --> 00:56:04,695 "You know, I don't think this can go towards us. 959 00:56:05,062 --> 00:56:08,699 You know, the first month passed, and then the second month passed, 960 00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:10,668 and then the fifth month passes. 961 00:56:10,768 --> 00:56:14,705 And I remember working at on September 3. 962 00:56:16,774 --> 00:56:18,709 My heart stops. I'm like... 963 00:56:19,944 --> 00:56:24,081 Limbo is fine, because we have not won or lost. 964 00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:26,717 And I walked out, and I prayed. 965 00:56:27,552 --> 00:56:29,787 And ten minutes later I got a call... 966 00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:34,959 that the court has supported us. 967 00:56:37,728 --> 00:56:40,097 The court decides that if active Backpage helps 968 00:56:40,197 --> 00:56:42,633 to develop sex ads on the site, 969 00:56:42,733 --> 00:56:44,635 and not just a passive host, 970 00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:48,539 then the Backpage should not be protected by Section 230 Cases are allowed to proceed to court. 971 00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:51,509 I really triggered it. 972 00:56:52,009 --> 00:56:54,612 We wait almost a year to get that decision, 973 00:56:54,712 --> 00:56:56,814 974 00:56:56,914 --> 00:56:58,949 and that means we can continue with this case 975 00:56:59,517 --> 00:57:01,185 And I am very grateful. 976 00:57:01,285 --> 00:57:02,953 I almost destroyed my car. 977 00:57:05,856 --> 00:57:08,959 There is a sense of optimism that progress is being made 978 00:57:09,093 --> 00:57:11,529 and that is not in vain. 979 00:57:11,629 --> 00:57:13,097 There are no losses across the board. 980 00:51:13,197 --> 00:57:16,200 That is a blessing and god is watching us that day 981 00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:17,968 when they make that decision 982 00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:24,074 And that is to help those people cannot be helped. 983 00:57:24,241 --> 00:57:26,977 You know, actually we actually have a voice that will do something I know this will help me and my daughter, 984 00:57:27,077 --> 00:57:29,980 and that will help many other girls out there, 985 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,050 they don't know what's coming out until it's too late 986 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:36,086 Difficult, this fight. 987 00:57:36,587 --> 00:57:38,723 They know what they are doing wrong, 988 00:57:38,856 --> 00:57:40,891 989 00:57:40,991 --> 00:57:44,094 and they know the children are traded on their site, 990 00:57:44,194 --> 00:57:46,463 and they failed to do anything to fix it. 991 00:57:46,564 --> 00:57:48,633 And we will change it. 992 00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:56,574 Two months later, on November 3, 2015, 993 00:57:57,908 --> 00:58:01,946 summons of the senate subcommittee Carl Ferrer, CEO of Backpage, 994 00:58:02,046 --> 00:58:04,915 to testify at the trial in Washington DC 995 00:58:05,182 --> 00:58:09,920 On the same day, Backpage puts it from the majority of the moderator, 996 00:58:10,287 --> 00:58:14,124 advise them to call the company Lawyers if contacted by investigators. 997 00:58:15,125 --> 00:58:18,963 I googled the lawyer and it looked It seems like he's a criminal lawyer. 998 00:58:19,063 --> 00:58:23,033 This establishes the fact that there is the underlying situation occurs 999 00:58:23,133 --> 00:58:24,735 it's illegal 1000 00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:28,172 - Are you afraid? - Yes. 1001 00:58:29,974 --> 00:58:32,610 The e-mail is circulated to Backpage employees are fired 1002 00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:35,746 comes from someone named Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 1003 00:58:35,980 --> 00:58:38,282 But the sign line is not doesn't really say "Backpage." 1004 00:58:38,916 --> 00:58:40,851 It says, "Website Technologies." 1005 00:58:41,586 --> 00:58:44,054 Texas Search State Secretary Record 1006 00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:47,892 reveals that the president of Website Technology for 2015 1007 00:58:47,992 --> 00:58:50,961 is Jim Larkin, the owner of the original Backpage, 1008 00:58:51,596 --> 00:58:53,764 contrary to the widely held assumption 1009 00:58:53,864 --> 00:58:56,934 that he is no longer active is involved with Backpage. 1010 00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:05,542 In the same month, Seventh Circuit Court of Appeal in Chicago 1011 00:59:05,643 --> 00:59:08,746 agree to hear the Backpage case against Sheriff Dart. 1012 00:59:10,815 --> 00:59:13,584 The problem here is whether Sheriff Dart has been trampled on First Amendment Rights Backpage 1013 00:59:13,684 --> 00:59:15,686 by sending stops and stops letters to Visa and MasterCard. 1014 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,724 1015 00:59:20,157 --> 00:59:23,628 Seventh Circuit Court Appeals hold hearings. 1016 00:59:23,728 --> 00:59:27,164 It was heard by three judges, including Judge Richard Posner. 1017 00:59:27,264 --> 00:59:30,334 Judge Posner might, I think, be considered one of the highest legal experts 1018 00:59:30,434 --> 00:59:33,003 at least in our generation or generation. 1019 00:59:33,838 --> 00:59:38,809 Our first case for the argument is Backpage versus Dart. 1020 00:59:38,976 --> 00:59:40,077 Hopefully please court. 1021 00:59:41,378 --> 00:59:43,213 Sheriff Dart forms an task force for this specific purpose 1022 00:59:44,682 --> 00:59:47,785 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1023 00:59:48,052 --> 00:59:52,857 You know, there is a police officer to be very careful in what he says 1024 00:59:53,323 --> 00:59:57,962 Your Honor, the Visa action was taken from the concern that their brand... 1025 00:59:58,062 --> 01:00:02,833 Look, this tone is very unprofessional He talks about the violence industry. 1026 01:00:03,167 --> 01:00:05,970 Is sex phone full of violence? 1027 01:00:06,070 --> 01:00:07,938 1028 01:00:08,205 --> 01:00:10,975 - Contents of... - Is sex phone violence? 1029 01:00:11,075 --> 01:00:12,342 - Could be. - really 1030 01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:13,811 - Of course you can. - How? 1031 01:00:13,911 --> 01:00:16,246 And what about parents, 1032 01:00:16,346 --> 01:00:19,884 parents who want look with young women? 1033 01:00:19,984 --> 01:00:24,922 That is the aspect of companion service. Not all sex. 1034 01:00:25,255 --> 01:00:27,792 I'm not so sure Hakim Posner has a strong grip 1035 01:00:27,892 --> 01:00:29,760 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1036 01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:32,296 It feels a bit like a dusk zone. 1037 01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:34,298 The part that really annoys me 1038 01:00:34,398 --> 01:00:37,401 is the part where he shows that, 1039 01:00:37,501 --> 01:00:42,673 "Sometimes a man just wants to be seen in a younger woman company." 1040 01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:45,368 I mean, in my case, I have children 1041 01:00:45,369 --> 01:00:48,045 pose with, you know, in underwear, 1042 01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:50,214 with the camera handle on the camera. 1043 01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:51,481 I mean, you want to be seen in the company 1044 01:00:51,581 --> 01:00:55,019 with a child dressed inside him underwear, well, what is that? 1045 01:00:58,222 --> 01:01:01,726 I remember seeing My little girl in her underwear. 1046 01:01:04,729 --> 01:01:05,963 I see my child... 1047 01:01:08,265 --> 01:01:10,067 in different poses... 1048 01:01:11,902 --> 01:01:13,670 Looks like he was sedated. 1049 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,243 When you get the call your daughter's word is in Backpage, 1050 01:01:19,343 --> 01:01:20,410 what is your reaction 1051 01:01:21,045 --> 01:01:22,379 I fell to the floor. 1052 01:01:23,748 --> 01:01:27,451 I don't know if the owner website has children, 1053 01:01:28,118 --> 01:01:29,987 but I hope that doesn't happen to them. 1054 01:01:34,058 --> 01:01:36,961 When the CDA is interpreted by the court 1055 01:01:37,061 --> 01:01:39,396 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1056 01:01:39,496 --> 01:01:41,398 to be involved in the human sex trade, 1057 01:01:41,498 --> 01:01:43,433 then we have a problem With that law, I think. 1058 01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:45,102 Or we have a problem with the judge. 1059 01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,937 Either way, we have a problem. 1060 01:01:47,037 --> 01:01:49,840 And if the judge is too blunt 1061 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:51,842 and if they don't get it, 1062 01:01:52,109 --> 01:01:54,311 then I think it is necessary made clear 1063 01:01:54,411 --> 01:01:57,481 The Congress does not support human sex trade 1064 01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:06,891 Two weeks later, a senate subcommittee convenes 1065 01:02:06,991 --> 01:02:09,860 about the child sex trade in Washington DC This trial will now be ordered. 1066 01:02:12,362 --> 01:02:13,964 In the bipartisan staff report released today, 1067 01:02:15,232 --> 01:02:17,935 we have explained some initial findings 1068 01:02:18,202 --> 01:02:20,004 and further questions that require answers. 1069 01:02:20,104 --> 01:02:21,806 The report reveals that Backpage has it 1070 01:02:23,473 --> 01:02:24,859 an editing practice some ads 1071 01:02:24,861 --> 01:02:26,377 by deleting words and images before being published 1072 01:02:26,476 --> 01:02:29,379 This editing practice may occur serves to hide evidence 1073 01:02:29,479 --> 01:02:32,482 1074 01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:35,152 of illegality from the underlying transaction. 1075 01:02:35,252 --> 01:02:37,822 National Center for Missing and Exploited Children 1076 01:02:37,922 --> 01:02:41,091 reported an increase of 846 percent 1077 01:02:41,191 --> 01:02:43,928 in the alleged report child sex trade 1078 01:02:44,028 --> 01:02:47,197 According to an industry analyst, eight out of every $ 10 is spent 1079 01:02:47,297 --> 01:02:49,900 about commercial sex online advertise in the United States 1080 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,968 go to Backpage. 1081 01:02:51,268 --> 01:02:53,070 Fair market value of the company, 1082 01:02:53,170 --> 01:02:56,173 consider lack of marketing, 1083 01:02:56,273 --> 01:02:58,909 around 430 million. 1084 01:02:59,343 --> 01:03:02,913 We are here to talk about profitable sales online 1085 01:03:03,013 --> 01:03:05,049 American children for sex, 1086 01:03:05,282 --> 01:03:08,218 which in our experience occurs most prominently 1087 01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:10,254 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1088 01:03:10,354 --> 01:03:12,189 Can you explain your testimony 1089 01:03:12,289 --> 01:03:16,126 that there are more rigorous posts Rules for selling motorbikes 1090 01:03:16,226 --> 01:03:17,494 rather than selling 12 years? 1091 01:03:18,095 --> 01:03:21,131 I really don't have an explanation For that, Senator. 1092 01:03:21,231 --> 01:03:24,301 The main lawyer Backpage has describing the moderation process 1093 01:03:24,401 --> 01:03:27,571 as a key tool for disrupting and finally ending human trafficking. 1094 01:03:28,172 --> 01:03:31,275 Backpage was initially told the moderator outside 1095 01:03:31,641 --> 01:03:34,444 that they must "fail" 1096 01:03:34,544 --> 01:03:38,849 ads that contain references to certain sex and words, 1097 01:03:39,083 --> 01:03:44,588 includes "girls," "teenagers," 1098 01:03:44,688 --> 01:03:49,426 and "Y-U-N-G." 1099 01:03:50,427 --> 01:03:53,463 Two days later, Backpage reverses the policy. 1100 01:03:53,998 --> 01:03:57,601 What's important, the guide from Backpage Emphasized in all uppercase letters, 1101 01:03:58,235 --> 01:04:00,204 "If in doubt about underage, 1102 01:04:00,404 --> 01:04:03,540 the process must now be done to receive ads 1103 01:04:04,141 --> 01:04:09,579 Only delete if you really People who are very confident are underage." 1104 01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,181 It is on all caps. 1105 01:04:12,416 --> 01:04:15,319 I want to contact the CEO of from Backpage, Carl Ferrer. 1106 01:04:27,097 --> 01:04:28,465 We hope Mr. Ferrer is here. 1107 01:04:29,066 --> 01:04:30,234 He just doesn't appear. 1108 01:04:30,334 --> 01:04:32,136 Certainly not something that you don't display. 1109 01:04:32,236 --> 01:04:34,604 Absolute ignores not to appear. 1110 01:04:34,704 --> 01:04:37,908 Chairman, I have been a member of from this subcommittee for many years. 1111 01:04:38,008 --> 01:04:42,312 I never knew a witness refused a court call 1112 01:04:42,412 --> 01:04:44,414 And I'm sure you will do it 1113 01:04:45,582 --> 01:04:51,255 take necessary actions to ensure that it is not done with impunity. 1114 01:04:51,355 --> 01:04:54,291 He called me and said, "You won't believe me." I said, "I saw it". 1115 01:04:54,391 --> 01:04:56,393 I've never seen anything like this. 1116 01:04:56,526 --> 01:05:01,298 I have never seen a witness reject to appear in a court call. 1117 01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:02,666 Backpage, at every opportunity, 1118 01:05:02,766 --> 01:05:04,901 have tried to protect anyone 1119 01:05:05,002 --> 01:05:07,104 from getting information behind the screen. 1120 01:05:07,204 --> 01:05:08,172 What do they hide? 1121 01:05:09,506 --> 01:05:11,575 I think we will find it they have tipped the scale 1122 01:05:11,675 --> 01:05:13,577 towards acceptance of ads 1123 01:05:13,677 --> 01:05:17,681 which is clearly designed to get customers 1124 01:05:17,781 --> 01:05:21,918 who want to have sex with children, to explain it clearly. 1125 01:05:22,019 --> 01:05:24,554 We want to find out, you know, how they do business, 1126 01:05:24,654 --> 01:05:26,490 whether they are editing their ads or not 1127 01:05:26,590 --> 01:05:28,525 They refuse to participate. 1128 01:05:28,625 --> 01:05:31,295 Not just a problem human trafficking, 1129 01:05:31,461 --> 01:05:36,100 But this is a direct attack, The failure to appear, 1130 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,702 in constitutional responsibility 1131 01:05:38,802 --> 01:05:40,570 United States Congress. 1132 01:05:42,106 --> 01:05:46,043 It is very unusual for someone to say, "No, I will not show up." 1133 01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:49,246 And with that, this hearing is delayed 1134 01:05:56,220 --> 01:05:59,389 Seventh Circuit decides that, Such government pressure 1135 01:05:59,489 --> 01:06:02,426 to the website with the purpose of censorship, 1136 01:06:02,526 --> 01:06:03,994 violates the First Amendment. 1137 01:06:04,794 --> 01:06:06,563 "Also not a Sheriff Dart..." 1138 01:06:06,663 --> 01:06:10,034 "... on solid ground in shows that everything..." 1139 01:06:10,134 --> 01:06:13,437 "... everything in the adult section The Backpage website is criminal." 1140 01:06:13,537 --> 01:06:15,505 "Fetishism? Call sex?" 1141 01:06:15,605 --> 01:06:17,307 "Performances by striptease artists?" 1142 01:06:17,407 --> 01:06:19,276 "Vulgar is not violent." 1143 01:06:19,376 --> 01:06:20,610 "Vulgar is not violent." 1144 01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:22,146 "Vulgar is not violent." 1145 01:06:23,347 --> 01:06:25,182 One ad in this category, & apos; Dom and fetish... & apos; " 1146 01:06:26,550 --> 01:06:28,618 "... is for services from & apos; professional dominatrix & apos; " 1147 01:06:28,718 --> 01:06:30,754 " A woman who is being is paid for whipping or vice versa... " 1148 01:06:30,854 --> 01:06:35,292 "... embarrass customers in to arouse them sexually." 1149 01:06:35,392 --> 01:06:39,396 "It's not clear like that do harm women or children..." 1150 01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:40,764 "... or violating any law." 1151 01:06:41,698 --> 01:06:42,699 Interesting. 1152 01:06:44,068 --> 01:06:47,771 To read something like that, Frankly, it worries me. 1153 01:06:47,871 --> 01:06:53,610 I think it's read like a cheap and dim novel. 1154 01:06:53,710 --> 01:06:57,414 This victim is dominated by women, underage girls 1155 01:06:57,814 --> 01:07:01,285 And I wonder if some are missing 1156 01:07:01,385 --> 01:07:04,554 when the issue is happening is decided by a male judge. 1157 01:07:04,654 --> 01:07:07,257 The court is completely unknown 1158 01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:09,293 with the crime of child trafficking 1159 01:07:09,393 --> 01:07:12,196 and with some ads posted on Backpage. 1160 01:07:12,462 --> 01:07:15,031 In the case of advertising for trafficking people, 1161 01:07:15,132 --> 01:07:17,167 I mean, it's not so freedom of speech, 1162 01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:18,568 You know, it's criminal activity. 1163 01:07:20,104 --> 01:07:23,140 You know, Pretty Woman. I have to take a Pretty Wom item We have created this kind of myth in our culture 1164 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,542 From you know, Julia Roberts is in Pretty Woman. 1165 01:07:25,642 --> 01:07:27,711 And the reality is far, far different. 1166 01:07:30,314 --> 01:07:33,283 Can't watch it 1167 01:07:33,383 --> 01:07:34,351 Can't watch it Love the movie. 1168 01:07:35,685 --> 01:07:38,288 Because Pretty Woman is not a scenario 1169 01:07:39,656 --> 01:07:42,492 What we have done before or after the lawsuit 1170 01:07:42,626 --> 01:07:45,162 go out and we try to get people who is trafficking in children 1171 01:07:45,262 --> 01:07:49,833 This is a very difficult thing do because of its nature. 1172 01:07:49,933 --> 01:07:53,103 In Boston, John Montgomery prepared his case, Doe versus Backpage, 1173 01:07:58,642 --> 01:08:03,680 hoping to convince the first Circuit of the Court of Appeal 1174 01:08:04,214 --> 01:08:06,783 Section 230 should not apply to protect Backpage. 1175 01:08:06,883 --> 01:08:11,488 1176 01:08:14,791 --> 01:08:17,794 Hopefully please court. My name is John Montgomery 1177 01:08:17,894 --> 01:08:22,599 What are the charges, exactly, Unauthorized activity by Backpage? 1178 01:08:22,699 --> 01:08:25,369 It operates an online market 1179 01:08:25,802 --> 01:08:28,838 who then trains the traders 1180 01:08:28,938 --> 01:08:31,608 who will go get involved in that activity 1181 01:08:31,808 --> 01:08:36,346 This is a very important case The three young women we represent 1182 01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:39,849 and many others, As a result, they represent. 1183 01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:42,419 There are only a few cases, Maybe two or three, 1184 01:08:42,686 --> 01:08:46,690 where internet service providers allegedly have participated 1185 01:08:46,790 --> 01:08:48,192 in federal crime. 1186 01:08:51,695 --> 01:08:54,264 Getting there at 9:00 will be great. 1187 01:08:54,364 --> 01:08:57,401 Because it allows us at that time type to walk back and forth 1188 01:08:57,501 --> 01:08:59,603 in front of the courthouse nervously. 1189 01:09:03,507 --> 01:09:05,709 On January 6, 2016 1190 01:09:05,875 --> 01:09:10,880 First Circuit Court in Boston hears oral arguments on Doe versus Backpage. 1191 01:09:11,715 --> 01:09:15,919 Amazingly, Judge David Souter, previously a Supreme Judge, 1192 01:09:16,353 --> 01:09:18,622 will be one of three judges hear the case 1193 01:09:19,723 --> 01:09:20,724 Mr. Montgomery, just go ahead. 1194 01:09:21,391 --> 01:09:23,893 Our main claim is the Backpage 1195 01:09:23,993 --> 01:09:27,297 involved in intentional criminal actions. 1196 01:09:29,566 --> 01:09:32,336 They intend to go further the sex trade trade. 1197 01:09:32,836 --> 01:09:35,772 Are your complaints coming in? The next step tells the truth, 1198 01:09:35,872 --> 01:09:40,210 they participate in efforts to sex traffic, contrary to advertising? 1199 01:09:40,544 --> 01:09:42,746 Why is it different from what newspapers 1200 01:09:42,846 --> 01:09:45,215 When it's special the ad section for 1201 01:09:45,315 --> 01:09:47,484 Washington Birthday Car Sales? 1202 01:09:47,717 --> 01:09:50,787 They host off-line communication 1203 01:09:51,321 --> 01:09:54,958 between illegal sex sellers, 1204 01:09:55,058 --> 01:09:57,527 including with children and buyers. 1205 01:09:57,761 --> 01:09:59,629 That happens on their site. 1206 01:09:59,863 --> 01:10:02,599 They participate in that effort That is the point. 1207 01:10:03,633 --> 01:10:05,402 Hopefully please in court, Jeffrey Pyle... 1208 01:10:05,502 --> 01:10:08,238 Mr. Pyle, at some time you will respond 1209 01:10:08,338 --> 01:10:10,840 to the last argument made by Mr. Montgomery, 1210 01:10:10,940 --> 01:10:13,810 that there is something more than the advertisement going on? 1211 01:10:14,043 --> 01:10:16,713 You are responsible, if we let it go forward, 1212 01:10:16,813 --> 01:10:19,616 to become an participant in the sex trade effort. 1213 01:10:19,916 --> 01:10:21,651 The ad is created by 1214 01:10:21,751 --> 01:10:24,354 plaintiffs themselves or by their pimps. 1215 01:10:24,454 --> 01:10:25,755 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1216 01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:29,859 I bring you agree that is possible for the publisher 1217 01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:32,696 to also be a participant in the sex trade business, 1218 01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:35,332 where the pimp himself runs a website. 1219 01:10:35,599 --> 01:10:36,466 Yes. 1220 01:10:37,867 --> 01:10:41,838 Publishers usually don't go out and participate in federal crime, 1221 01:10:41,938 --> 01:10:44,408 Especially the sex trade business. 1222 01:10:44,508 --> 01:10:49,346 And it's true, if we can get two the judge agrees with that, 1223 01:10:49,446 --> 01:10:51,915 I think we might have three judges who would agree with that, 1224 01:10:52,416 --> 01:10:53,983 That is very important for us. 1225 01:10:54,351 --> 01:10:56,353 Right. The question is, where it brings us 1226 01:10:56,453 --> 01:10:57,387 - Right - Right 1227 01:11:02,559 --> 01:11:06,696 When Justice Souter is launched analogy of the car ad, 1228 01:11:06,796 --> 01:11:11,034 That's kind of, "why do we compare it? girls who are traded to cars?" 1229 01:11:11,401 --> 01:11:14,604 There might be better answers to some questions 1230 01:11:14,904 --> 01:11:18,542 A panel prepared in a difficult state means that you can wait a while. 1231 01:11:18,842 --> 01:11:20,644 I think we have a good shot, 1232 01:11:20,744 --> 01:11:23,913 and I can't wait to contact Jane Does and tell them how it goes. 1233 01:11:24,013 --> 01:11:25,449 - I think we're in the game - Yeah. 1234 01:11:25,549 --> 01:11:26,850 First Circuit Argument 1235 01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:29,453 certainly one of the most active benches I've ever seen. 1236 01:11:30,554 --> 01:11:31,521 All judges have clearly read the shorts. 1237 01:11:32,889 --> 01:11:34,491 That makes me feel a little optimistic what is the decision? 1238 01:11:34,591 --> 01:11:36,025 I think Ropes & Gray will win. 1239 01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:39,429 I don't want to sound like Debbie the Downer, 1240 01:11:39,529 --> 01:11:43,667 but no matter how many times you come against the Labor Law Communication 1241 01:11:43,767 --> 01:11:45,502 it will always close you. 1242 01:11:53,643 --> 01:11:56,480 Because my daughter was sold in Backpage 1243 01:11:56,646 --> 01:11:58,515 He's a completely different person. 1244 01:11:58,615 --> 01:12:00,083 He is traumatized. 1245 01:12:00,584 --> 01:12:03,953 That spark and fire first see in his eyes missing 1246 01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:05,722 Well, it's forever changing it. 1247 01:12:07,123 --> 01:12:09,793 He blames himself. This affects him every day. 1248 01:12:10,427 --> 01:12:13,897 Guilt and fairness feel ashamed of yourself, 1249 01:12:14,097 --> 01:12:15,632 I have struggled a lot with that. 1250 01:12:16,466 --> 01:12:18,668 Do you know how many mentors I have? 1251 01:12:18,768 --> 01:12:20,737 Do you know how many therapists do I have? 1252 01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:23,440 Do you know how many "friends" I have? 1253 01:12:23,807 --> 01:12:28,077 He feels that his childhood has been lost, destroyed. 1254 01:12:28,177 --> 01:12:30,947 He still suffers From the dissociative, 1255 01:12:31,047 --> 01:12:33,082 dysfunctional part of what happens. 1256 01:12:33,517 --> 01:12:35,752 Every time I think about it, I become sad and depressed, 1257 01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:37,454 and I experience flashbacks. 1258 01:12:37,621 --> 01:12:40,824 Violin, football, songs, friends, eh... 1259 01:12:41,124 --> 01:12:43,493 memories with my sister and sister playing. 1260 01:12:43,593 --> 01:12:46,830 I mean, all that just goes. 1261 01:12:46,963 --> 01:12:48,131 This is one of those things 1262 01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:50,734 I honestly don't want to my worst enemy 1263 01:12:51,968 --> 01:12:54,370 I have to live every day in my life now 1264 01:12:54,771 --> 01:12:56,540 with everything that happened to me. 1265 01:12:56,806 --> 01:12:59,676 And my parents must live with grief 1266 01:12:59,776 --> 01:13:02,078 in knowing that I passed it every day 1267 01:13:02,178 --> 01:13:04,781 I think I've been crying more this year than I have cried in my life 1268 01:13:04,881 --> 01:13:05,815 Oh my God. 1269 01:13:08,017 --> 01:13:08,885 Yes. 1270 01:13:19,596 --> 01:13:22,165 We are now continuing with an insult to this Congress, 1271 01:13:22,265 --> 01:13:24,468 which unfortunately, we are forced to do that, 1272 01:13:24,568 --> 01:13:27,871 because Backpage refuses to give us information 1273 01:13:28,104 --> 01:13:30,574 We really know through some evidence 1274 01:13:30,674 --> 01:13:34,711 Backpage really instructs people to edit ads, 1275 01:13:34,811 --> 01:13:37,146 including to take proof of illegality 1276 01:13:37,246 --> 01:13:40,750 But I think that's why they work it's very difficult to avoid our court calls. 1277 01:13:43,019 --> 01:13:45,522 What will I recommend to the subcommittee 1278 01:13:45,622 --> 01:13:49,425 is that we have an insult to Congress submitted against Backpage. 1279 01:13:49,526 --> 01:13:51,528 And I think the committee will go with us 1280 01:13:51,628 --> 01:13:52,962 We'll see later. I hope so. 1281 01:13:54,063 --> 01:13:55,765 Senator McCaskill and I today as a result 1282 01:13:55,865 --> 01:13:58,167 ask the committee to report the resolution to authorize 1283 01:13:58,267 --> 01:14:00,003 civil enforcement and humiliation 1284 01:14:00,570 --> 01:14:03,740 against Backpage and against its CEO, Carl Ferrer. 1285 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,909 I'm happy that Senator Portman is calm, 1286 01:14:06,009 --> 01:14:09,145 because sometimes I am ready to do McCain to these people. 1287 01:15:53,001 --> 01:14:11,748 No, that's not it! 1288 02:39:16,006 --> 01:14:16,786 I think McCaskill will be good enough. I've seen it in operation. 1289 01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:19,689 Frankly, I don't remember 1290 01:14:20,023 --> 01:14:24,661 when witnesses refuse to testify in this way. 1291 01:14:24,761 --> 01:14:26,596 I don't know if your staff has... 1292 01:14:26,696 --> 01:14:29,098 - It's been 20 years, John. - It's been 20 years. 1293 01:14:29,298 --> 01:14:31,067 If there is no further debate or amendment, 1294 01:14:31,167 --> 01:14:33,770 the question is at the end of from the original resolution 1295 01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:37,874 directs the Senate Legal Counsel to be taken a civil action to enforce a court call 1296 01:14:37,974 --> 01:14:40,043 from this Permanent Subcommittee about Investigation. 1297 01:14:40,143 --> 01:14:42,111 - Senator McCain - Aye 1298 01:14:43,046 --> 01:14:44,247 - Portman Senator - Aye 1299 01:14:44,347 --> 01:14:45,649 - Senator Paul - Aye 1300 01:14:45,749 --> 01:14:46,816 - Senator Langford - Aye 1301 01:14:46,916 --> 01:14:48,084 - Senator Ayotte - Aye 1302 01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:50,920 In this selection yay is 15, nays is zero, 1303 01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:52,055 and the motion was agreed. 1304 01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:55,759 What we do today is that we pass the committee The first step in holding individuals in Backpage 1305 01:14:55,859 --> 01:14:59,863 1306 01:14:59,963 --> 01:15:01,631 in an insult to Congress. 1307 01:15:01,731 --> 01:15:03,967 Well, that hasn't happened in 20 years. 1308 01:15:04,067 --> 01:15:05,268 Have a unanimous vote. 1309 02:41:42,001 --> 01:15:07,837 By the way, it's hard to get anything unanimously around here 1310 01:15:12,742 --> 01:15:16,646 Subcommittee senate takes yet Other steps to investigate Backpage. 1311 01:15:19,749 --> 01:15:23,152 One day we are happy, then become nervous. But we are quite confident. 1312 01:15:23,252 --> 01:15:24,253 I will put money for us. 1313 01:15:29,793 --> 01:15:33,162 This person manages 1400 people a law firm from Boston. 1314 01:15:33,262 --> 01:15:37,601 You must be a enough lawyer ride a flock of 1,400 other sharks. 1315 01:15:54,381 --> 01:15:56,986 Thank you to everyone for gathering 1316 01:15:57,086 --> 01:16:00,824 and, you know, especially for Yiota coming from Washington DC 1317 01:16:00,924 --> 01:16:03,059 and Erik, along the way from Seattle, Washington. 1318 01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:06,996 We can call this our first ever peak person Backpage. 1319 01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:09,666 The first thing I thought about would be Interesting to talk about 1320 01:16:09,766 --> 01:16:11,801 is to get everyone's reaction, 1321 01:16:11,901 --> 01:16:15,038 for the latest decisions we have about Backpage. 1322 01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:21,678 I am not impressed with the thought of the First Circuit. 1323 01:16:21,845 --> 01:16:23,212 I agree with you. I think it's fair 1324 01:16:24,547 --> 01:16:28,017 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1325 01:16:28,117 --> 01:16:31,120 to overcome what really happened This is the sale of children. 1326 01:16:31,220 --> 01:16:35,091 The decision seems like really disarmed the 1327 01:16:35,191 --> 01:16:37,794 activities and really said there are several publications here, 1328 01:16:37,894 --> 01:16:40,329 which triggers CDA, this case is over. 1329 01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:43,099 There are only a few real academic distances between your federal appeal our court judge and our plaintiff. 1330 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:46,670 In other words, these people must do it out of their ivory tower 1331 01:16:46,936 --> 01:16:50,073 1332 01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:53,309 I will stay for them to continue Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agents 1333 01:16:53,409 --> 01:16:56,646 I will tell you, two out of three of the judges did not use the internet. 1334 01:16:56,746 --> 01:16:58,815 These people don't know how their VCR works. 1335 01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:04,253 We will evaluate our approach to the US Supreme Court. 1336 01:17:04,353 --> 01:17:05,989 Because our case is in the process of 1337 01:17:06,089 --> 01:17:08,892 and we will be tried and we intend to win, 1338 01:17:09,158 --> 01:17:12,896 I don't want to broadcast our strategy is also pretty good 1339 01:17:12,996 --> 01:17:16,165 and give Backyard a blueprint what we will do. 1340 01:17:17,701 --> 01:17:19,703 I think the decision is misdirected. 1341 01:17:19,803 --> 01:17:23,406 And they will not hold back the Responsible Backpage very disturbing me. 1342 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,176 There is this high discussion about Section 230, 1343 01:17:27,276 --> 01:17:30,780 and at the end of the day, rape is hardly discussed. 1344 01:17:31,114 --> 01:17:33,783 They are discussed in passing. 1345 01:17:33,883 --> 01:17:36,319 There is a line that says something Like, "So, here's the story." 1346 01:17:36,419 --> 01:17:40,389 And this is not a fairy tale. There is a child who is raped a thousand times. 1347 01:17:40,489 --> 01:17:41,825 That's outrageous. 1348 01:17:42,959 --> 01:17:44,227 They think Congress should improve this, not court. 1349 01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:48,064 And we think it's actually theirs job and they don't do it 1350 01:17:48,264 --> 01:17:51,935 What I know is I want to Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 1351 01:17:52,101 --> 01:17:56,139 or congressman think that this situation, 1352 01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:58,007 the status quo is quite satisfying. 1353 01:17:58,241 --> 01:18:00,777 It doesn't make sense if you can sit 1354 01:18:00,877 --> 01:18:05,148 and you can hear testimony or, You can see all the evidence 1355 01:18:05,248 --> 01:18:08,918 and you can't feel certain amount of responsibility 1356 01:18:09,986 --> 01:18:12,021 to improve the situation. 1357 01:18:12,488 --> 01:18:15,124 We need someone give us a chance to fight 1358 01:18:16,926 --> 01:18:20,730 I hope every American will also be angry and other times federal state judge or judge 1359 01:18:20,830 --> 01:18:24,300 accuses that somehow this practice can be accepted in America, 1360 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:29,438 then speak up 1361 01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:31,240 This is a matter of inheritance for these judges. 1362 01:18:31,507 --> 01:18:33,442 The judge made this decision 1363 01:18:35,078 --> 01:18:36,295 will be read in history. 1364 01:18:36,296 --> 01:18:37,313 This judge will be judged alone. 1365 01:18:37,413 --> 01:18:40,984 This can't happen again. 1366 01:18:41,384 --> 01:18:44,954 It doesn't matter what the CDA says. 1367 01:18:45,321 --> 01:18:47,356 Calendar number 375. SRES377, 1368 01:18:59,168 --> 01:19:02,939 direct the legal Senate advice to bring civil action 1369 01:19:03,272 --> 01:19:06,309 to enforce a court call from the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigation. 1370 01:19:06,409 --> 01:19:09,813 Backpage and Chief Executive Officer, Carl Ferrer, 1371 01:19:10,246 --> 01:19:12,882 1372 01:19:24,994 --> 01:19:28,097 we will send messages to others, I say to my colleague from Ohio, 1373 01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:30,433 they can run away, but they can't hide. 1374 01:19:30,533 --> 01:19:32,768 During our November 19 trial, 1375 01:19:33,036 --> 01:19:35,538 I promise that while subcommittee will move forward 1376 01:19:35,638 --> 01:19:37,473 Careful and careful, 1377 01:19:37,573 --> 01:19:40,209 We will not go quietly until night. 1378 01:19:41,144 --> 01:19:43,046 And one day in the near future, 1379 01:19:43,146 --> 01:19:45,548 we will use Senate & apos; s law enforcement actions 1380 01:19:45,648 --> 01:19:48,952 to force cooperation from Backpage. 1381 01:19:49,252 --> 01:19:51,254 Today is that day. 1382 01:19:51,620 --> 01:19:53,022 The officer will call him. 1383 01:19:53,156 --> 01:19:55,191 Mr. Johnson, aye. 1384 01:19:55,291 --> 01:19:57,493 Miss Herono, aye. 1385 01:19:57,894 --> 01:19:59,795 Mr. Heller, aye. 1386 01:20:01,430 --> 01:20:05,034 voting supports, no one opposes. Resolution Senen 377 is approved. 1387 01:20:05,168 --> 01:20:08,404 That is a unanimous decision, 96 votes. 1388 01:20:09,005 --> 01:20:11,540 I am very proud and very happy. 1389 01:20:12,408 --> 01:20:15,311 We will win. We will sink the ship. 1390 01:20:15,411 --> 01:20:16,880 I guarantee that. 1391 01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:24,253 Weapon Resolution 377 only authorizes Senate to file charges against Backpage 1392 01:20:24,353 --> 01:20:25,855 to enforce his subpoena. 1393 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:30,860 But this sound might be The first step in a long battle is protracted, 1394 01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:34,563 not only with Backpage, but to change Section 230. 1395 01:20:42,038 --> 01:20:45,008 David Boies, fresh, from won the Supreme Court case 1396 01:20:45,108 --> 01:20:46,309 about same-sex marriage, 1397 01:20:47,043 --> 01:20:48,978 decide to get into the fray. 1398 01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:54,383 He, with others, starts preparing a new lawsuits against Backpage. 1399 01:20:55,684 --> 01:20:57,620 Good afternoon, Boies, Schiller & Flexner. 1400 01:20:59,322 --> 01:21:01,334 If you have a clear organization 1401 01:21:01,335 --> 01:21:03,159 understand that they facilitate 1402 01:21:03,292 --> 01:21:05,194 this illegal action, 1403 01:21:05,962 --> 01:21:09,298 It seems like I am a very important case to do Our legal strategy is to show that Backpage is everywhere. 1404 01:21:09,398 --> 01:21:12,601 So, we will go file some lawsuits 1405 01:21:12,701 --> 01:21:14,603 and mobilize the community have been touched by Backpage. 1406 01:21:14,938 --> 01:21:18,574 Judges must be educated, 1407 01:21:18,674 --> 01:21:21,077 society needs to be educated, 1408 01:21:21,177 --> 01:21:22,946 The Department of Justice needs to be educated 1409 01:21:23,046 --> 01:21:25,114 exactly what happened here 1410 01:21:25,214 --> 01:21:27,216 The idea that Backpage is only trying to fulfill parents' fetishes, 1411 01:21:27,316 --> 01:21:32,221 not also involving minors, 1412 01:21:32,321 --> 01:21:34,890 I don't think they will be able to make it in court 1413 01:21:34,991 --> 01:21:37,393 with a straight face. 1414 01:21:37,493 --> 01:21:38,361 The witness stands is a quiet place to lie. 1415 01:21:39,362 --> 01:21:40,563 We will bring them to court 1416 01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:42,365 and they can tell the story under cross-examination. 1417 01:21:42,465 --> 01:21:45,168 1418 01:21:45,268 --> 01:21:46,502 Let's see if they can defend it. 1419 01:21:46,602 --> 01:21:48,004 I don't think they can. 1420 01:21:52,708 --> 01:21:54,610 State and federal authorities have been arrested 1421 01:21:54,710 --> 01:21:58,581 Carl Ferrer is 55 years old in Houston, this afternoon. 1422 01:21:58,681 --> 01:22:01,217 Ferrer will face charges related to pimps... 1423 01:22:12,028 --> 01:22:14,297 If Backpage is immune from responsibility, 1424 01:22:14,397 --> 01:22:17,173 that means that This immunity is actually 1425 01:22:17,174 --> 01:22:19,702 extends to intentional criminal actions. 1426 01:22:20,703 --> 01:22:23,572 and the first circuit actually agrees with that argument 1427 01:22:23,672 --> 01:22:30,046 Maybe, you know, the courtroom won't be the end of everything-everything 1428 01:22:30,146 --> 01:22:32,148 when it comes to solving this problem. 1429 01:22:32,248 --> 01:22:34,950 Congress must absolutely act. 1430 01:22:35,118 --> 01:22:36,285 Once we get the information, 1431 01:22:37,553 --> 01:22:38,587 pull back the curtain, see what really happened here, 1432 01:22:39,922 --> 01:22:42,025 then I think the legislative response is the next logical step. 1433 01:22:43,592 --> 01:22:45,579 I think you will see a lot of opposition 1434 01:22:45,580 --> 01:22:47,330 with the idea of changing Section 230. 1435 01:22:49,398 --> 01:22:52,035 Center for Democracy and Technology, 1436 01:22:52,135 --> 01:22:54,003 and Electronic Frontier Foundation, 1437 01:22:54,370 --> 01:22:57,740 two high-powered organizations dedicated to internet freedom, 1438 01:22:58,207 --> 01:23:01,277 Both have filed lawsuits pants that support Backpage 1439 01:23:01,377 --> 01:23:04,113 in his case against J.S. and Jane Doe. 1440 01:23:06,715 --> 01:23:10,553 Google search for donors to Center for Democracy and Technology 1441 01:23:10,653 --> 01:23:12,755 read who is like technology company. 1442 01:23:13,722 --> 01:23:18,161 Their larger donors include Facebook, Microsoft and Google. 1443 01:23:19,195 --> 01:23:21,630 This means that the funds are from these companies is being used to support Backpage 1444 01:23:21,730 --> 01:23:23,699 in this case involves underage sex trafficking 1445 01:23:23,799 --> 01:23:27,236 Silicon Valley breaks in cold conditions sweat when we talk about changing CDA, 1446 01:23:29,372 --> 01:23:33,742 1447 01:23:34,110 --> 01:23:36,179 but there are several ways we can do this 1448 01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:38,614 it can be in child trafficking. 1449 01:23:38,714 --> 01:23:43,752 The government cannot only censor which does not agree with or dislike. 1450 01:23:43,852 --> 01:23:47,656 Money and lobby prevent change, 1451 01:23:48,157 --> 01:23:50,093 even though that is a reasonable change, 1452 01:23:50,193 --> 01:23:53,629 as if we have to go there First Amendment altar, 1453 01:23:53,729 --> 01:23:55,231 and ask forgiveness. 1454 01:23:55,331 --> 01:23:57,733 Many voices are taken, but nothing happens. 1455 01:23:57,833 --> 01:24:01,170 So many people are not interested 1456 01:24:01,270 --> 01:24:04,573 in changing the law in terms of internet. 1457 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:10,279 Whatever action must be taken taken to overcome this problem, 1458 01:24:10,379 --> 01:24:11,347 needs to be taken 1459 01:24:12,648 --> 01:24:16,152 Well, if that requires compensation the Decency Act, then fine. 1460 01:24:16,252 --> 01:24:17,153 I would love to do it. 1461 01:24:28,297 --> 01:24:30,533 Last night we issued a report. 1462 01:24:30,733 --> 01:24:32,868 This shows evidence of criminal activity 1463 01:24:32,901 --> 01:24:36,539 and we have to spend 18 months and go all the way to the Supreme Court 1464 01:24:36,572 --> 01:24:37,573 to get this information 1465 01:24:45,514 --> 01:24:47,611 More than 20 months ago, this subcommittee 1466 01:24:47,613 --> 01:24:49,519 launch a bipartisan investigation about how sex trafficking is used internet to exchange their trade. 1467 01:24:49,618 --> 01:24:53,522 Visit www.Fastbet99.club Trusted Trusted Online Gambling Agent 1468 01:24:53,622 --> 01:24:56,592 Backpage refuses to cooperate with investigation subcommittee. 1469 01:24:56,892 --> 01:25:00,296 They oppose our court call, 1470 01:25:00,396 --> 01:25:01,697 failed to appear at the hearing in November 2015, 1471 01:25:01,797 --> 01:25:04,333 or provide the requested document. 1472 01:25:04,433 --> 01:25:06,302 We now want to contact our first panel witness for today's trial 1473 01:25:06,802 --> 01:25:10,273 This is the custom of this subcommittee to swear on all witnesses. 1474 01:25:10,573 --> 01:25:13,842 Do you swear that your testimony is will give before this subcommittee 1475 01:25:14,343 --> 01:25:17,213 1476 01:25:17,313 --> 01:25:19,548 will be truth, all truth, and nothing but truth, 1477 01:25:19,648 --> 01:25:20,783 so please help God 1478 01:25:20,949 --> 01:25:22,551 Please sit down. 1479 01:25:23,919 --> 01:25:26,222 Last night, Chairman Portman and I received news from Backpage 1480 01:25:26,322 --> 01:25:27,556 that in response to our report, 1481 01:25:27,656 --> 01:25:29,725 the company has been closed the adult part 1482 01:25:29,825 --> 01:25:32,328 throughout the United States effective immediately 1483 01:25:32,795 --> 01:25:35,464 I'm sure it's pure coincidence. 1484 01:25:36,632 --> 01:25:37,866 Only time will tell 1485 01:25:38,267 --> 01:25:40,703 if this action is fair a cheap publicity action. 1486 01:25:41,670 --> 01:25:45,508 Backpage intentionally edit words shows child sex trafficking. 1487 01:25:45,608 --> 01:25:49,345 "Fresh," "innocent," "school girl" and even "Amber Alert." 1488 01:25:49,745 --> 01:25:51,780 These children are still being sold. 1489 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:52,781 Shameless. 1490 01:25:53,882 --> 01:25:56,185 Shame on you for hiding behind the First Amendment. 1491 01:25:56,419 --> 01:25:58,287 If an underage girl is being sold for sex 1492 01:25:58,387 --> 01:26:00,556 and the germany put the word "Lolita" in the ad, 1493 01:26:00,656 --> 01:26:01,890 stripping the term from ads 1494 01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:03,926 doesn't magically change the age of girls, right? 1495 01:26:04,026 --> 01:26:05,361 I refuse to answer your question. 1496 01:26:05,461 --> 01:26:06,495 I refuse to answer your question. 1497 01:26:06,595 --> 01:26:07,696 I refuse to answer your question. 1498 01:26:08,997 --> 01:26:11,700 Based on the rights granted by the First and Fifth Amendments. 1499 01:26:13,769 --> 01:26:15,938 Mr. Lacey, I understand from your response 1500 01:26:16,038 --> 01:26:17,806 you will call you the fifth amendment is correct 1501 01:26:17,906 --> 01:26:20,409 in response to anything and all questions submitted to you today 1502 01:26:20,509 --> 01:26:21,344 Obviously. 1503 01:26:23,246 --> 01:26:25,514 This ends with questions from this panel. 1504 01:26:26,415 --> 01:26:28,227 You are forgiven panel based on 1505 01:26:28,228 --> 01:26:29,918 your affirmation The five amendments to rights. 1506 01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:33,222 You are listening to the hearing today, 1507 01:26:33,322 --> 01:26:35,658 Backpage has been pulled down their companion site 1508 01:26:35,758 --> 01:26:38,361 That is a publicity action in the Backpage section. 1509 01:26:38,527 --> 01:26:39,595 That is showmanship. 1510 01:26:39,728 --> 01:26:40,696 I think it's a ruse. 1511 01:26:41,664 --> 01:26:43,266 And the next Backpage will join 1512 01:26:43,366 --> 01:26:45,868 unless we fix CDA. 1513 01:27:02,651 --> 01:27:05,488 How long can you be to continue to proceed with the court proceedings 1514 01:27:05,588 --> 01:27:06,655 on your own source? 1515 01:27:06,789 --> 01:27:07,923 As long as needed. 1516 01:27:10,025 --> 01:27:12,928 Straight up, provided it is needed. I can do this. 1517 01:27:13,562 --> 01:27:14,597 Will you sell the furniture? 1518 01:27:14,763 --> 01:27:15,831 I will sell the furniture. 1519 01:27:35,718 --> 01:27:39,021 Apart from all the legality about what is permitted, 1520 01:27:39,388 --> 01:27:40,689 the question is what's right 1521 01:27:43,792 --> 01:27:48,697 There are questions for What kind of society are we going to be, 1522 01:27:48,797 --> 01:27:52,768 whether we will tolerate sexual trafficking in children. 1523 01:27:53,001 --> 01:27:56,271 That is an insult everything we believe in 1524 01:27:56,372 --> 01:27:59,274 And questions for Backpage, I think, what is this? 1525 01:27:59,375 --> 01:28:02,845 Do you protect children from human trafficking? 1526 01:28:02,945 --> 01:28:05,280 or do you benefit from their suffering? 1527 01:28:05,748 --> 01:28:06,882 That's the question. 1528 01:28:08,517 --> 01:28:11,854 How can this be a part of the legacy of Suara Desa 1529 01:28:11,954 --> 01:28:13,288 sad for me 1530 01:28:13,556 --> 01:28:16,459 This kind of operation will be right 1531 01:28:16,559 --> 01:28:19,895 What sounds do you want to express? 1532 01:28:19,995 --> 01:28:22,064 Today's companies 1533 01:28:22,164 --> 01:28:24,633 make a decision to post these images 1534 01:28:24,733 --> 01:28:27,670 even without taking the time to find out if they are children. 1535 01:28:27,936 --> 01:28:30,275 They make mistakes in allowing my daughter 1536 01:28:30,276 --> 01:28:32,508 to be sold 20 times a day on the site. 1537 01:28:32,875 --> 01:28:34,377 What if it's your daughter? 1538 01:28:35,711 --> 01:28:36,812 How did you feel at that time? 1539 01:28:44,553 --> 01:28:47,890 Other M.A., J.S., and Jane Does 1540 01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:50,759 are standing and reclamation of their voices, 1541 01:28:51,427 --> 01:28:52,861 not only for themselves 1542 01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:55,330 but for thousands of others children across the country, 1543 01:28:56,632 --> 01:28:59,968 challenging the law has been interpreted so broadly 1544 01:29:00,068 --> 01:29:02,337 to oppose common sense, 1545 01:29:02,971 --> 01:29:05,841 talk and fight. 1546 01:29:07,543 --> 01:29:10,579 Demand that we answer the question 1547 01:29:10,879 --> 01:29:13,682 What kind of society do we want? 1548 01:29:18,987 --> 01:29:21,390 He is precocious, 1549 01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:23,959 nosy, opinionated. 1550 01:29:25,093 --> 01:29:27,863 Geez, He is cheerful and friendly. 1551 01:29:27,963 --> 01:29:30,399 He always wants it in all mixes 1552 01:29:30,766 --> 01:29:35,571 What I like best My daughter is that she has a big heart. 1553 01:29:36,038 --> 01:29:37,973 I am Jane Doe. 1554 01:29:38,073 --> 01:29:39,708 I will tell myself who is 12 years old, 1555 01:29:41,209 --> 01:29:42,645 "Don't settle for lacking You are far more than that. 1556 01:29:42,878 --> 01:29:43,846 I promise you." 1557 01:29:45,481 --> 01:29:47,550 He only has real spices for life. 1558 01:29:47,650 --> 01:29:51,554 Even with him being broken he, he shares so much love 1559 01:29:51,787 --> 01:29:52,955 I am Jane Doe. 1560 01:29:53,055 --> 01:29:54,823 I am Jane Doe. 1561 01:29:56,625 --> 01:29:59,962 He doesn't have to let anything have happened in his past to hold him back. 1562 01:30:00,062 --> 01:30:03,432 I want my daughter to raise her head up high, 1563 01:30:03,532 --> 01:30:06,802 and know that All this is not his fault. 1564 01:30:06,902 --> 01:30:09,772 Mother changes this is more than anything 1565 01:30:10,205 --> 01:30:13,175 It's time for us all to stand up and be strong. 1566 01:30:13,876 --> 01:30:16,712 They save their children, take to the streets 1567 01:30:16,812 --> 01:30:18,581 They bring this case to court. 1568 01:30:18,781 --> 01:30:21,049 This is often where the actual movement begins. 1569 01:30:21,484 --> 01:30:22,885 And that's the only way to make changes, 1570 01:30:22,985 --> 01:30:24,620 is to make your voice known. 1571 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,188 I am Jane Doe. 1572 01:30:27,656 --> 01:30:30,158 If I can talk to another Jane Is in this case, 1573 01:30:30,258 --> 01:30:32,928 I will tell them, don't give up the fight 1574 01:30:33,762 --> 01:30:36,031 They open the way for others. 1575 01:30:36,865 --> 01:30:39,167 I just don't want it happened to my sister, 1576 01:30:39,267 --> 01:30:41,637 or your children, or the next child. 1577 01:30:42,705 --> 01:30:46,642 I will tell Jane Does, You vote literally... 1578 01:30:46,775 --> 01:30:49,712 I don't know how many thousands, I don't know how many. 1579 01:30:51,580 --> 01:30:52,648 I am Jane Doe. 1580 01:30:52,915 --> 01:30:54,182 I am Jane Doe. 1581 01:30:54,282 --> 01:30:55,784 I am Jane Doe. 1582 01:30:55,884 --> 01:30:56,785 I am Jane Doe. 1583 01:30:56,952 --> 01:30:58,821 I am a victim of sex trafficking. 1584 01:30:58,954 --> 01:31:00,155 I am Jane Doe. 1585 01:31:01,890 --> 01:31:04,960 I'm smart, I'm beautiful. 1586 01:31:05,561 --> 01:31:09,231 I'm strong, sharp, loving. 1587 01:31:09,632 --> 01:31:10,699 I am a survivor. 1588 01:31:11,099 --> 01:31:13,001 Submitted by: www.subtitlecinema.com