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A NETFLIX COMEDY SPECIAL

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Good evening and welcome to the future.

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The future of the Five Star Movement.

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You must understand,
this is a new vision of the world.

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We're here, and we are evolving.

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There's no other thing like this
in the entire world.

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People, it is present throughout
the Italian territory and abroad.

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We have "meetups" all over the world.

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We have 1,600 people
inside the institutions

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with no criminal records,
a miracle in this country.

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We have 160 MPs. We've elected them.

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We've thrown a few out. There must be
nine left. But it doesn't matter.

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We have 18 mayors.

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We have 17 MEPs with balls of steel.

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They are extraordinary. This movement
is growing and we must be ready, people.

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Guys, time's up.
We must build a huge ark to survive.

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Time's up.

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An ark, like Noah.

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He started building it when
it wasn't raining, when it was sunny.

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Just think, what sort of a life
he must have had,

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with wife and kids always on his case.

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Where's Dad? Over there, felling trees.

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But it's not raining.
I know, he must have lost it.

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Think what it must have been like.

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And yet he kept on going and built it.

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And one day he heard thunder,
and it started to rain.

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That's it. We are hearing thunder,
and we must be ready.

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Time's up and we must build this ark,
to welcome all the underdogs.

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We're not interested in the happy ones,
they are dead.

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We want the underdogs,
those who don't give up,

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who want to change the world.

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We must welcome them in this huge ark.

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We'll welcome everyone,

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animals, wild boars, canaries,

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breeding couples, non-breeding couples,
flies, anything.

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All sorts of people, right, left
and center, over and under.

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Dancers and dwarfs,
all the dwarfs in the world.

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In you come, that's it. The great ark
that will change the world's fate.

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Hello? Who's that?

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The Dwarfs Association? Where?

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Berchiddeddu, Sardinia?

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No, come on. They shouldn't get upset.

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It was just a joke, a metaphor.

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What? Do we have councilors there too?
Right.

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And how many of them are dwarfs?

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All of them.

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Well, I can't-- I'll try and fix it,
give me a chance.

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I know, I'll try and sort it out.
There's enough room in the ark for--

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It was just a banal example about dwarfs.

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But can't you see what state I was in?

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Can't you see what state I was in?

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I spent ten years of my life
with people telling me off.

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Try and understand my mental dichotomy.

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No, stay where you are. Not now.
That's the row of complimentary tickets.

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So, they have a predisposition to this.

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I won't tell you off yet, Gino.

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Gino Paoli is here.

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The old folks' seats were over there,
but you sat here.

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So.

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It's very simple.

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I was a comedian, now I'm a politician.
What am I?

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Mental dichotomy, 01, computer language.

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I have undergone
a remarkable personality change.

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And yet my mental faculties
are still intact.

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I don't know where I find the strength.
When I was a comedian...

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A comedian can joke, use paradox,

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but a politician can't.

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I was a comedian
and I had my "satiric license."

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If I cracked a nasty joke
it was "satiric license."

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Now I'm a politician and I don't even have
parliamentary immunity.

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I just get screwed.

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So, the thing is...

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I may use some strong language
to please those from Genoa's suburbs.

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Anyway...

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I'm in Genoa,
and Genoa is a really unique city.

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It's culturally advanced,

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seriously involved in politics.

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Politics is "correct" in Genoa,
except for when I'm on stage.

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So this is a weird time in my life,
because--

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Hang on. Really, saving on ladders?
I mean...

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There's a jacket here too...

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Right, ignore it. We'll cut this.

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So, after 40, almost 50 years
of doing this job,

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always surrounded by people, I was
at risk of getting slightly depressed.

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It happens. You get depressed.

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So I could either seek the help
of a psychiatrist, of a psychologist,

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and I'd have to pay them,
pay a stranger,

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or I could look for strangers that would
come and pay me and cheer me up.

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So... this is a rather peculiar session.

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What you saw before,
it really was like that.

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I'd say something,
then an activist would arrive.

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An activist. What are activists?

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I don't know,
that's what they call themselves.

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In Imperia there are five
"Friends of Grillo" clubs.

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Grillo's True Friends. Grillo's
Original Friends. We Met Him First.

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What the fuck!

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And there's the Non-Sympathizing Activist.

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I met one of those, too. He said,
"I'm a non-sympathizing activist."

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What does that mean? "That I like
your program, but I can't stand you."

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So, I had all this stuff in my mind.

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I thought, "What shall I do?
What's going on?"

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For years I suffered from insomnia.

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Then I started respecting it.
Because insomnia has its own dignity.

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I didn't want to spoil it
with TV or books.

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I enjoyed it, moment by moment. I had
these awful thoughts. I kept them inside.

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This depression that's inside us.

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Depression, melancholy, sadness.

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And we treat it... Eighty million packets
of pills for the depressed.

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We have eight million sufferers,
it's incredible.

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Yet, when you truly understand it,
depression is wonderful.

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You twist it inside,
you make it your friend, a positive force.

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Depression is inside us,
like happiness.

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It's in all here, right here.

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There's a second brain in here.
There's serotonin, dopamine.

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Your feelings are in here. Each time
I go on stage, I feel it in here.

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They shout: "Break a leg."
And I say: "No, stop, this is too much."

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I feel it all here in my second brain,
this brain that I feel...

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and which gives me all these ideas.

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It's the one that has made me take tons
of antacid

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and caused the insomnia.

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That insomnia that allowed me
to create this movement.

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This movement... I've never
even been a member of the Scouts.

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I would never have dreamt of becoming
the leader of a political movement.

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Yet it happened. I don't know how.

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But I must tell you the truth.
I was joking.

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Because I'd wander around at night.
No, really.

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Ask my neighbors.
I'd go out in the night,

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wander aimlessly, alone with my thoughts.

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I'd walk down the streets at night
and bump into these incredible people.

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I attracted these people, got ideas,
heard incredible stories.

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I got inspired by all these things.

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I walked around the city
like a prostitute walks the streets...

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I wandered around like that.

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And that's how it all came about.
It all came from here.

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So I thought, "I want to see
what the situation is like."

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So I had a gastroscopy.

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I want to show you a clip,
because it shows all the changes

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in my second brain.

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I got inside myself.

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Look, phase one, when the movement
was born, and it's all nice and clean.

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The second is the black hole,
the meeting with Napolitano,

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then lower and lower,
tons of pills, never enough,

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Berlusconi... and in the end...

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In the end there was
this deviant personality,

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this moral transvestite.

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That was the last phase, the darkest.

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I wanted to show you that
that's where the movement was born.

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Because if I'd been able
to digest things...

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I'd have been able to sleep
and this movement would not exist.

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I'd have been fine.
That's where it came from.

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It's true, though. A bit of depression,
of sadness, is beautiful.

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It's evolution. If we hadn't been
pessimistic, we wouldn't have survived.

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Can you imagine an optimistic caveman?

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Where the fuck would he go?

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He'd leave his cave
and there'd be a saber-toothed tiger.

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"Won't hurt me."
A minute later he'd be eaten.

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Nobody would have survived.

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We have it all inside.
Happiness, depression, it's all there.

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So if you can understand
what causes this...

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Because sadness and melancholy
are two different things.

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Sadness is caused by something.

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You know why it's there.
An image, a moment, a person, a situation.

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You know why you get sad.
I hate sadness.

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But melancholy is wonderful, because
you've no idea where it comes from.

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You just feel like that.
They know all about it in my family.

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Because they look at me and say,
"Look at the comedian."

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Because I feel this melancholy,
but it's beautiful.

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Can you imagine life without it?

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What would nightingales do?
They'd start burping.

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This is a good one, come on,
laugh, for God's sake.

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You're holding back, and I know why.

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Your wife brought you here,
you didn't want to come, you voted "yes."

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"No, I won't come. I don't like it."

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"You must come. You'll change your mind.
You haven't yet,

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but by the time you get out of here,
you'll hug me!"

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So, this is a strange city,
and the fact is that I know you.

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Don't pretend. I know you. I know
the way you look at me down the street.

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"Who does he think he is?"

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It's an amazing city, a wonderful city,
with great works of art.

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Its houses are moldering a bit.

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Just like us.
We're moldering on the outside...

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but inside, we're depressed.

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This is Genoa,
a beautiful, ugly, wonderful city.

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It is everything and its opposite.

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Genoa is old. Genoa is young.
Genoa and its apps, its ITT,

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its big robotics companies.

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Genoa is everything and its opposite.
Genoa invented banks.

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The first bank in the world
was San Giorgio, not Monte dei Paschi.

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We invented debts, bonds, derivatives,
insurance, surnames.

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Between the 16th and 17th century,
we had the world's most magnificent city.

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We waged wars here and there
at the same time. We were wonderful.

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We'd fund opposing parties.

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So I know you.
You still have the same DNA.

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I grew up in this city. I was born here.

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I lived here,
in a working-class neighborhood.

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For viewers who don't know Genoa,
it was the equivalent of the Bronx.

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A place where there was
a bit of everything.

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Where some real characters lived,
where the common people lived.

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They're such overused words.
But you went out and said hello,

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and there was the dry goods store,
the supermarket, the bar.

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I lived near the station.
When a train goes by,

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I don't mind the noise,
I just swear all day.

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It's wonderful, actually.

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In a neighborhood like this,

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in a place
where all kinds of people lived,

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the Cegnis, the respectable butchers,

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the Giovinazzos,
one of the two brothers became a killer.

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All sorts of people. Donato Bilancia.

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He lived there. He was younger,
but he seemed more grown up than me.

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So when I went out in the evening,
as there were no mobiles, mom would say,

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"Get Donato to walk you home
or I'll worry."

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So, that was my childhood.

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I was looked after by a serial killer.
Nothing can scare me! Nothing!

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So... that situation... it's fate.

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Consider how destiny works.

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We had the same opportunities,
grew up in the same neighborhood.

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Our fathers were both craftsmen.

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We came from the same background.

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He became a serial killer.
I became a comedian.

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We could easily have swapped roles.

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I could have been a serial killer.
Life is strange.

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I grew up like that.

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My father was 50 when I was born.

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There was half a century between us.

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But that was almost 70 years ago.

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So the difference was-- and the same gap
exists between me and my son Ciro.

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He's 16, so he was born when I was 50,
more or less.

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So I understand exactly
how my father felt, the age difference.

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I made jokes at home,
because I already had that drive.

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I'd come in and crack a few jokes
to my dad. He never, ever laughed.

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He'd look at my mom and say,
"Your son is an idiot."

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That's it. Then I found out...

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Then I found out that he recycled
my jokes down at the bar

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and was a huge success.

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Because he was a piece of shit, you see.

236
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Yes. So, families...

237
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I've made a bit of a mess of things,
while always trying my best.

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I have two families. My wife is not
exactly a Muslim, but she's from Iran.

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She lives here.
We have Muslims in Genoa, so to speak.

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Like my late father-in-law.

241
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Then I have another two children
in Rimini. And they're vegans. Vegans!

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Muslims and vegans. And I hate--
What a crazy life! Vegans!

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When my first mother-in-law was alive,
she'd cook me handmade tagliatelle

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with that amazing sauce from Romagna.

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Now I go there and they are vegan, and
they cook tagliatelle with friggin' tofu.

246
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But you can't even say, "What is this?"

247
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Because all hell breaks loose.
They go on about death, ill health...

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"You're sick and we are healthy,
and you are a shit and eat corpses!"

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Fuck it. "It's so good that
if you hadn't told me it was tofu,

250
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I'd have thought it was meat sauce."
Then I'd stab myself under the table.

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Then in Genoa, we'd observe Ramadan.

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Then I'd have to visit the vegans.

253
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So I'd eat at the gas station. En route.

254
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And... you're really laughing now.

255
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,720
You're losing some
of your Genoese traits.

256
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You are letting yourselves go,
it's not like you.

257
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,080
So... I had this relationship
with my dad, who was 50 years older.

258
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We didn't use words, just gestures.
He taught me what he was.

259
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He had these three pillars.
Work, my mom, the children.

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Nothing, he had nothing else.

261
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But he taught us what he was.

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I can't teach my children what I am,
because if you teach what you are,

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they will never become better than you.

264
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,640
So he used some techniques.

265
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,720
Computers didn't exist,
but he intimidated me in other ways.

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He sent his first tweets
via small paper notes.

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He'd leave them around the house.

268
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I'd go out-- how could we go out
without a mobile phone?

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I was with Donato,
so nothing could happen to me, but...

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But other boys-- I'd come home at night

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and find these little notes
in the hallway. A pile of them.

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I'd look at the first one and it said,
"It's midnight and you're not home."

273
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Then I'd read the second one.
"It's 1:30 a.m. You've taken it too far."

274
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"It's three o'clock.
Do you think this is a hotel?"

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He made me feel so anxious

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that when I was out, having fun,
I'd look at my watch and think,

277
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"What will he have written now?"

278
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I was really anxious.
He made me feel so nervous.

279
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So I'd come in, silently.

280
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I'd go to my bedroom.
He'd switch on the light in his bedroom,

281
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just to say, "I know." And that was it.
I'd go to bed and pretend to sleep,

282
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because I knew what to expect.

283
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He'd open the door, look in,
close the door and go to bed.

284
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It could be 4:00 or 5:00 a.m.
The guy never slept.

285
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,160
But the next day, he wouldn't say a thing.

286
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,520
He brought me up
with these sophisticated systems.

287
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,280
I tried to work with him,

288
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but fathers are the worst employers.

289
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He had a workshop, so I started there.

290
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,280
With the grease, the old lathes,
not the modern CNC ones,

291
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welding, soldering,
using acetylene, propane.

292
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,760
I am a true welder. I really used to weld.

293
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,840
Not these...

294
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,400
Not these unionists,
the CISL and UIL ones.

295
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And those from FIOM.

296
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,800
I worked as a lathe-turner.

297
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As a welder.

298
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There were a few explosions

299
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because I wasn't
all that familiar with acetylene.

300
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,280
And at the end of the week, the money...
and my dad would say,

301
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"What should I give you? It's all yours."

302
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760
Shit. What should I do, pick up a lathe?

303
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,120
It's all yours.

304
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,480
And I experience all this with my kids,
but the other way around.

305
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,160
I'll never get bigheaded,
because I have a family.

306
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,960
In my home, I'm just a little shit,
believe me. They can confirm it.

307
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,120
They treat me like...

308
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,560
I ask them,
"Could you pass me the oil?"

309
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,800
"We're all equal. Get it yourself."

310
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,040
So one day I told them,
I'm starting a tour.

311
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Every time I do something
to earn some cash,

312
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either the government falls,
or the president resigns,

313
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and it's a mess.

314
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,320
So I said, I'll go on tour
to earn something.

315
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,800
In politics, I'm one of the few
who's earned nothing, who's lost something

316
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,160
and has even lost some weight.

317
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,200
Don't look at me like that.
I did lose weight.

318
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,440
It shows, doesn't it?

319
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,680
So I spoke to the family and said,
if the tour flops and I earn less,

320
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,680
our standard of living must go down.

321
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,080
I know you don't give a damn
about anyone at home, but...

322
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,000
Since that day they've been calling me.
"How's the tour?"

323
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,520
"Are there lots of people, Daddy?"

324
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,520
Children. What little shits.

325
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,880
I have six of them.

326
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,640
Six dickheads, one worse than the other.

327
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,840
So I've tried-- that's why
I'm telling you the story of my life.

328
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,000
Because it's your life, too.
It's part of your life, too.

329
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,080
My life was riddled with failure.

330
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:07,880
Failure is wonderful.
When you fail, you feel...

331
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,040
Failure is poetry
without a need for talent.

332
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:16,760
Honda, people like that, said their life
had been riddled with failure.

333
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,040
Think of Edison.

334
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:23,320
Before getting it right with that bulb,
think how often he messed up.

335
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,760
Think about it. Dyson,

336
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240
the vacuum-cleaner guy,
with 800 faulty models.

337
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,200
Failure is an exceptional key
to move forward.

338
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,680
I tried being a welder and didn't succeed.

339
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,840
Because this port, Genoa's port,
that now's detached from the city...

340
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,800
It used to be part of the city.
The port was Genoa.

341
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,120
Now it's different.

342
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,480
The port is one thing, the city another.

343
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,640
It's unbelievable.

344
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,280
This lack of continuity is unbelievable.

345
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,840
In the olden days, we didn't have
containers, we'd get all sorts.

346
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,280
All sorts of goods. In the '60s and '70s,
from China, never mind globalization,

347
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:09,080
in Genoa we'd get everything,
cheeses, lambs,

348
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,600
transistors, TV sets, radios, anything.

349
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,960
And we stole. My God, how much we stole.

350
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Silently. All partners.
All of us partners in crime.

351
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,000
You opened a container,
a bit of coffee came out.

352
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,200
You couldn't leave it there,
could you?

353
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,120
A bit for the IRS,
a bit for the rest of us. We all stole.

354
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,400
It was a wonderful time.

355
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,720
We stole... it was our philosophy.

356
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,080
You went to rob someone's house,

357
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,840
and in the meantime,
your own house would get robbed.

358
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,840
That's how it worked.
You rearranged the furniture.

359
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040
It went round in a circle.
That's what happened.

360
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:02,640
Until one day a guy woke up and said,
"I'm not going out tonight."

361
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Shit!

362
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:11,080
And he broke the circle.
The honest man was born.

363
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840
The honest man has destroyed this country!

364
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,160
In the port, we had transvestites.

365
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,720
Transgenders didn't exist back then.

366
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,200
Nowadays you make a joke about a trannie
and you get done for slander.

367
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,520
In those days, you didn't call them
transgender. It's a woman with a willy.

368
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,720
A woman with a willy.

369
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,360
It's either a woman with a willy
or a man who talks too much.

370
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,880
Transgender? And in fact...

371
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,120
The dock workers would wear a wig
and walked on heels, hairy legs and all.

372
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480
They'd get hold of a drunken marine,
bugger him

373
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,680
and throw him on the battleship.

374
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,960
There was  Mano 'e pece.  We didn't have
"escorts," we had proper whores,

375
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520
the beautiful ones, the old ones.

376
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,000
The real ones,
who spoke to you in Genoese.

377
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280
"Come, rookie,
I'll give you a little wash."

378
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,160
Really big on hygiene, they were.

379
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,800
You're relaxing too much.
You're laughing too much.

380
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800
I don't like it.
You are taking the piss, aren't you?

381
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Then you go out and say, "What a load
of crap. I got really bored."

382
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:26,960
That's what you do.

383
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,200
So, there was  Mano 'e pece,  the Mafia,
everything was already there.

384
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,880
Everything worked. That's why.

385
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,000
We didn't see anything,
because it all worked.

386
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720
As soon as it stopped working...

387
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,720
The whores are over there.
There are the trannies.

388
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,880
There's some drug dealing.
The Mocambo's over there.

389
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,320
There's  Mano 'e pece.
We weren't used to it.

390
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,400
So I'd hang out in these places.

391
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,720
I attended primary school
at the bar Mocambo.

392
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,880
In Piazza Martini, there were no women.
We were all horny as hell, but no women.

393
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,080
None of them took any notice.

394
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,440
To pass the time,
we'd climb a tree up to 10-15 meters,

395
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560
put the newspaper, the  Secolo XIX,
on the ground,

396
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,280
and tried to hit it with a turd.
It was wonderful.

397
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,160
One of the best ways
to put that rag to use.

398
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,240
It's true, though.

399
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,440
If you got the "X."

400
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,200
If you got the "X,"
you pocketed all the money.

401
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,920
It was extraordinary.

402
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Self-taught games, football,

403
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760
spontaneous games...

404
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,280
I don't want to sound like the old guy
who harks on about the past.

405
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,040
But this was my way of playing hooky.
Me and my dad, and the school...

406
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,320
Here's another thing I failed at, school.

407
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,880
But I was really keen,
even as a little boy I read a lot.

408
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,240
I learned French poems by heart.
I read Flaubert.

409
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,360
I didn't understand, of course.

410
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520
"Ma mère, que j'aime beaucoup,
m'a donné tout..."

411
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,040
I still remember this
from my preschool years.

412
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,400
"Ma mère, que j'aime beaucoup,
m'a donné tout.

413
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,960
J'aimerai cette bonne mère
ma vie entière."

414
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,960
Why do I remember this stuff?

415
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,480
Our brain is a strange thing.

416
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,920
And yet, this is what I'd remember.

417
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,920
I wanted to talk about-- but I couldn't.
I was in primary school.

418
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,320
I did well at school, but in order
to study the classics in high school,

419
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,640
instead of a vocational school,
you had to pass an exam.

420
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,040
You had to take an entrance exam.

421
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,920
It sounds unbelievable now.

422
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,440
So I took the exam, and math...

423
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,440
I was into literature,
into the spoken word, into grammar.

424
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,760
But nothing. That test destroyed my life.

425
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Or maybe it sorted it out, improved it.

426
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,640
But I didn't know that at the time.

427
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,960
The question was, "There is a bathtub

428
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280
whose taps fills it
with 30 liters per hour.

429
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,360
But there is a hole, and six liters
leak out every 12 hours.

430
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,360
How much water is there after 1.5 years?"

431
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800
And I thought,
"For fuck's sake, shut the tap."

432
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Come on, I was in 6th grade.

433
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
I handed it in and that's it.
I wasn't interested.

434
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,280
That's not how my mind works.
I was into,  "Ma mère que j'aime beaucoup,

435
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,720
m'a donné tout."

436
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,600
So I retake my exams in September.

437
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,760
"There is a tanker with a hole..."

438
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Go and fuck yourself!

439
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,080
I said my first proper "fuck off,"
in 6th grade. I have the copyright.

440
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,080
I ended up studying bookkeeping,

441
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,040
banking, credit systems, commerce,
more banks, more credit...

442
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,840
I did all that sort of stuff,

443
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,680
but I wasn't interested.
I was cut out to study philosophy.

444
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Kierkegaard,
that's who I was interested in.

445
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,480
I didn't understand him,
but I was interested in him.

446
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,680
He had spent his life deciding whether
to get married or become a priest.

447
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,960
In the end,
he went for fucking his sister.

448
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160
And I thought, "The man's a genius!"

449
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,080
And then I looked at Wittgenstein, one
of the greatest philosophers in history.

450
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:50,440
He lived in Vienna. He came
from the wealthiest family in Europe.

451
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920
The Wittgensteins, a Jewish family.

452
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,360
And he hated his family. He left.

453
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,080
"I don't like the Jews, my parents,
their religion," he said.

454
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840
He left and went to work as a teacher,

455
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,680
then he volunteered for WWI.

456
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,320
When he was at school,
one of his classmates...

457
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,000
one of his classmates was Hitler.

458
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,960
There is a photo.
Wittgenstein and Hitler. And Hitler...

459
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,640
They were at school together.
And Hitler hadn't even considered it...

460
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Wittgenstein would say, "The Jews
are bastards, my folks are bastards,"

461
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,200
and Hitler would go,
"Come on, don't say that, please."

462
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,640
I imagine that dialogue, where he said,
"You're exaggerating, don't say that,"

463
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,240
and tried to calm him down.

464
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,600
That's the sort of thing life is made of.

465
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,840
I wanted to study these things
and ended up with this stuff.

466
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520
The three years at that college
had no value.

467
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600
My dad said, "What did you study?"

468
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480
"I don't know, I have a diploma."
"What diploma is it?"

469
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,240
So I spent another two years studying
"applied to admin services."

470
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040
"Applied to admin services,"

471
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640
"School for"... You did that too?

472
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
The "applied" thing?
Have they "applied" you to something?

473
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,240
I didn't manage to "apply" to anything.

474
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720
I did the two years,
and then the teacher told me,

475
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,240
"You fell for it too, didn't you?"

476
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Then they told me there was
a shorthand-typing course.

477
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,920
And I did a year of shorthand-typing.
You too!

478
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,920
What the...
The Gabelsberger-Noe method?

479
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Bloody hell, I did the Gabelsberger-Noe,

480
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,200
and as soon as I got my diploma,
they changed method! Fuck it!

481
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,720
So I studied for all these diplomas,
applied, secretarial, I didn't know...

482
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,520
So they told me, "You got it all wrong,
start all over again."

483
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,800
I did it all over again,
four years in one, at this great school.

484
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,840
My dad sold two lathes
so I could do that,

485
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,600
with my three diplomas.

486
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,000
So I got my diploma in accountancy.

487
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,280
And my father...

488
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,600
You know what fathers were like.

489
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,920
"He's an accountant.

490
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,360
An accountant!"

491
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,760
He was as happy as a clam.
What a great little man.

492
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,800
It didn't take much to make him happy.

493
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,600
And I'd say, "I'd like to go to uni."
"That's a bit excessive!"

494
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Well, I couldn't study classics,
so I studied economics.

495
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,040
I could do that,
with my diploma in accountancy.

496
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,240
And so, back to studying math.

497
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,080
And the Great Hall...
And I made people laugh.

498
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,880
I already had it in me.
And I was doing odd jobs.

499
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,800
And then the professor asks
for the equation of the ellipse.

500
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Everyone was looking at me.
I'd memorized it, so I did it.

501
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,520
And the guy, a Calabrian...

502
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,160
Why are you laughing?
Calabrians are almost like us.

503
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,040
"I told you that..." He spoke with...

504
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,719
"I told you how to approach this."

505
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,800
He spoke a bit like this.

506
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,159
So I give him the equation of the ellipse,
and he goes, "No, it's wrong."

507
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,199
I did it again. "No, it's wrong."

508
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,320
And he never told me what was wrong.

509
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080
Then he asked,
"What's two-thirds by three-fourths?"

510
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,520
Stuff you learned in primary school.

511
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000
I had no idea, and he'd sussed me out.

512
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:41,080
So to make me look stupid in front
of all the students, he made me do this.

513
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,800
So I saw what he was trying to do,
and I counter-attacked.

514
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,960
"What are you doing? Stop it.
Do you think I don't know?"

515
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,159
And in the meantime,
I looked around for a suggestion.

516
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680
So I was expelled.

517
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,280
They sent me away.

518
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,920
I started performing in cabarets,
here and there.

519
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,280
I stole a few songs here and there.

520
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,200
I'd steal them and internalize them.
I'd play Brassens, Brel.

521
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,400
They weren't my songs,
but I pretended they were.

522
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,880
I adapted them. "The Island."
I sang incredible songs.

523
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,320
People... I had my guitar and I sang.

524
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,200
I'd go to the cabaret and sing.
It was about singing, not talking.

525
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560
And I'd introduce the next song
and people would laugh.

526
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,920
So, when I saw they were laughing,
I'd speak more,

527
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160
and the guitar just sat there
and then I'd leave.

528
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,280
And they said, "Why the hell
did you bring a guitar?" I don't know.

529
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,840
Life is strange.
Please don't doze off now.

530
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Don't doze off.

531
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,320
Gentiloni is here. Please don't.

532
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,520
Renziloni.

533
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,680
An empty ministerial car turned up
and Gentiloni got out.

534
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,040
So...

535
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,800
So I'd start singing.
I even copied Pippo Franco!

536
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,960
I'll admit it. I completely sold out.

537
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:26,440
Pippo Franco.
"Shit... She told me she loved me."

538
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,360
"Lace the lace of your blue dress."
"Look at me now."

539
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Dreadful stuff. People would laugh.
The ones from suburbia, anyway.

540
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,120
They laughed and laughed.

541
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520
And one day Pippo Franco came to Genoa
and everyone got up and said,

542
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,080
"You imitated Grillo!"
It was so embarrassing.

543
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,680
I must apologize to Pippo Franco.

544
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:56,480
So I was singing and not earning anything.

545
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,640
My father wasn't helping out,
so I started selling jeans, clothes.

546
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:06,200
I sold Levi's. It was their first year.
The agent earned 1.2 billion.

547
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,080
This was in the '70s.
The jeans had four pockets.

548
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,520
I tried to find out
how he handled his clients.

549
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Pamfin in Florence gave me
this new exclusive line,

550
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,560
because I was charismatic.

551
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Nobody bought anything,
but I made prospective clients.

552
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,920
So, one day, they invited
all the salesmen to a convention.

553
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,400
It was at the Ciocco Resort,
a beautiful place in Tuscany, near Lucca,

554
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600
and they invited all of us, including me.

555
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,640
There was the owner with his wife
and kids and 2,000 employees.

556
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:41,080
Everyone was there,
even those earning a fortune.

557
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520
Someone said,
"Grillo is a cabaret artist."

558
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,720
The owner said, "Play something for us."
I picked up my guitar, sang two songs.

559
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480
The owner was delighted.

560
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,880
He said, "Grillo, I didn't know
you were an artist! Come over here.

561
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Sit next to my wife, my daughter.
You're one of us. Come here."

562
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,680
I was in heaven. My girlfriend was there.
She was my model, so to speak.

563
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,560
She'd show off the jeans
when people were in the shop.

564
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
"Do you like these? Have a look."

565
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,800
We were two jokers.

566
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,560
We charmed the owner.
It was wonderful. I went back home.

567
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,440
My family, my in-laws...
I told them, "We've charmed the owners.

568
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,520
It's wonderful.
You'll see, everything will change."

569
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,280
The following day a letter arrived.
I called them about it.

570
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,080
"Here we go. I've made it."
We sat down, her parents, my parents...

571
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,520
I opened the envelope
as though I was playing poker.

572
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,480
And I read... F... F...

573
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Fired?

574
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,600
We laugh about it now,
but I was incredulous. Fired!

575
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,560
The reason given was, "Since you perform
in cabarets in the evening,

576
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,560
you'd not be available first thing
in the morning, when shops open.

577
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,360
You may keep the samples
in lieu of severance pay."

578
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,160
And that was it.

579
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,440
And I became very depressed,
again, as I had at school,

580
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
when they told me,
"Your certificates are worthless."

581
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
It was hurtful. It was another failure.

582
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,160
This sense of failure gave me the strength
to take these samples--

583
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,960
I lived on the 11th floor,
above a railway line.

584
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,560
I threw them down and almost derailed
a high-speed train bound for La Spezia.

585
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,040
I took my guitar and went to Milan,
though I didn't know anyone there.

586
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,800
I called Fabrizio and asked,
"Do you know anyone?"

587
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,720
He said, "Try this guest house
in Galleria del Corso.

588
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
It's run by a woman from Genoa
who'll give you free meals,

589
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,440
steak for breakfast, first courses...

590
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,680
She'll be really nice to you,
and she'll even sleep with you."

591
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,520
Gino also lived in that guesthouse

592
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,200
for four or five years. And...

593
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,800
Yes, Fabrizio, Tenco,
everyone went there.

594
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,560
So I went there, and he was right,
she was really nice.

595
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Except that she was 82.

596
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,120
I went there
and started wandering around aimlessly,

597
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,160
nursing this pain in my heart.

598
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:31,600
I met a guitarist who told me,
"Come and meet my agent."

599
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,880
The agent said,
"I don't deal with cabarets,

600
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,680
but you could go to this restaurant

601
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,920
where a man called Marangoni
organizes cabaret acts for diners."

602
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,560
I went and performed for three people
who were eating a pizza.

603
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,520
They laughed and the owner said,
"Great! Work for 20 days.

604
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,680
In 20 days' time,
I'll pay you 2,500 lire a day."

605
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,960
So I started working for him.
The old woman fed me.

606
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,040
I went there every day and soon the three
clients turned into four or five...

607
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,560
Business is picking up.

608
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,560
On the 19th day, the owner said,
"I can't pay you because I have a tumor,

609
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,480
and they said I only had 20 days to live."
"Shit! I just hope they got that right!"

610
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,280
And he died 20 days' later.
The timing was impeccable.

611
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,200
That's been the story of my life.

612
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,960
So I carried on
and went on the road with my little car,

613
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,560
performing in shows.

614
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,280
I started performing, but...

615
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,800
That's Baudo, on the left.

616
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,240
I started doing shows. They went well.

617
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,800
Then there were the first broadcasts
on RAI 1.

618
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Only RAI 1 existed back then.

619
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,440
You had 20 million viewers. I remember
when they added a second channel.

620
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,320
I swear, my father,
who was sitting on his armchair, said,

621
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,240
"Two channels? How confusing!"

622
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,960
"We'll have no idea what's going on."

623
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,240
How wonderful!

624
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,640
So I did stuff, in a leotard.

625
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,240
"It's crazy! 1,500! It's crazy!"

626
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,040
I looked like a bee with its stripes.

627
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:32,040
And people liked me--
22-23 million people liked me.

628
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,680
So when I went out,
people recognized me in the street.

629
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160
With an audience of 22 million,
you'd be a star!

630
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,760
Compared to today's audiences,
those figures are ridiculous.

631
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,000
So you made it big immediately.

632
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,840
And I carried on until...
Another great disappointment awaited me.

633
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
A huge life disappointment,

634
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,160
another humiliation, another failure.

635
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,680
That's how I became hardened.

636
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,280
This failure happened one Saturday night,
and it was live.

637
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,920
The general manager called and said,

638
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,560
"I hold you in high esteem,
but be careful."

639
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,480
And he added, "You can't say this."

640
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,120
A comedian is prepared
to risk his life for his jokes.

641
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,000
When people said, "You can't say this,"

642
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:32,640
I'd say, "Don't think about censoring me,
or it's the first thing I'll say."

643
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:38,680
And I'd go out and say, "They told me not
to say this, so I'm going to."

644
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,600
They were terrified,
because people liked me.

645
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:48,800
There was censorship, but there were ways
to get round it. I loved censorship!

646
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,080
I'd have been happy
to be killed over a joke.

647
00:43:53,160 --> 00:44:00,120
I chose to become a comedian
so that nobody could tell me what to do.

648
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,200
That's the path I chose.

649
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,600
So I'm the happiest man in the world.

650
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,920
So that evening I spoke about
the nuclear-power referendum.

651
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,800
Are you getting bored?

652
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Do you remember
the nuclear-power referendum?

653
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,000
I'd done all my research. They said,
"Don't discuss nuclear power." Right!

654
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,960
You might... you might...

655
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,280
you might influence the referendum!

656
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,880
They were so naive.

657
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,920
I went onstage,
and that's all I spoke about.

658
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,320
I discussed the accidents at Caorso,
everything.

659
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
In the end,
if you remember that Saturday...

660
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640
In the end,
this was what was in the news...

661
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:54,120
Craxi, Andreotti, the mayor of Venice,
Martelli, had all flown to China.

662
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,920
And I read about that.

663
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,480
But here's the thing.
I thought of something.

664
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,920
They all went to China,
and I asked myself,

665
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,120
"But if all the socialists went to China,
and everyone's a socialist there,

666
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,920
who are they going to steal from
while they're there?"

667
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,480
And if you watch that show,
you'll see there is no reaction.

668
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,720
Because from the moment
I mentioned the socialists,

669
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,400
even before I made the joke...
You were all at home,

670
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:30,440
but the actual audience saw
the stage manager removing his earphone,

671
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:37,000
throwing it on the ground and leaving.
Baudo stormed off as well.

672
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,840
So people understood
something was up,

673
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,960
so when I told my joke, if you remember,
nobody laughed,

674
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,040
because they were all terrified.
And so I said...

675
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,200
I came out with this sentence,

676
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,360
"All right,
see you again in 15 years."

677
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,720
And I got that right,
because I was back on TV after 16 years.

678
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,080
All right? So, I went back home.

679
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000
No, I'm not saying that's the reason.

680
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Heavens, no. But I thought they were
angry about my stance on nuclear power.

681
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,280
Because I'd made jokes about Caorso,
about nuclear power stations. Right?

682
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,760
So when I left the stage
and went to my dressing room,

683
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,520
there was no one. Pippo Baudo
had locked himself in his dressing room.

684
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,000
The stagehands ignored me.
They all turned their backs on me.

685
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,400
What the hell happened? I had no idea!

686
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,640
I got back to the hotel De La Ville
in Rome and the concierge said,

687
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:43,520
"Oh, Grillo! You told them they stole!
You told them!"

688
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,160
And I said,
"You mean that little joke?"

689
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,480
And then on the news that night,
Prime Minister Craxi came on.

690
00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:00,040
And instead of saying,
"He was a bit unkind about us."

691
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,480
The Prime Minister shouldn't get angry
at a comedian.

692
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,920
It shows a complete lack
of political common sense.

693
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680
He got angry. He said,
"Let's ban him. He can't do this.

694
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,560
The RAI can't... There are limits!"

695
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,240
So he made a hero out of me.

696
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,680
If he'd said,
"It was just a joke. We forgive him.

697
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,320
It was a harmless prank."

698
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,320
If he'd said that, he'd have buried me.
My life would have gone a different way.

699
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,880
But because he said,
"Shit! This is unacceptable!"

700
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:38,840
I'd go out and people would offer me
meatloaf, Easter cakes...

701
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,720
And I was amazed.
I had Easter cakes coming out of my ears.

702
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,200
I was given relief parcels.

703
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,040
In other words,
I'd become a hero in spite of myself.

704
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,880
See what life is like?
Life is made out of failures.

705
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,720
You have expectations, but then life
takes a completely different turn.

706
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,080
But this is what's wonderful.

707
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,760
To be alive.
This is what being alive means,

708
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,200
overcoming failures,
being curious about what will come next.

709
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,520
When you're no longer curious,
you're dead!

710
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,920
Heavens alive!

711
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,240
And so I traveled around.
I traveled and traveled

712
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,240
and I started to meet people.

713
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,760
I performed to packed theaters,
packed arenas. God, how amazing!

714
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,680
10,000, 12,000, 15,000, 100,000 in Turin.

715
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Huge crowds and I was up there on my own.

716
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,440
God! How amazing it was
to live through all that.

717
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Then I met important people.

718
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,840
I got to know Gino, Renzo... Renzo Piano,

719
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,160
one of the greatest architects
in the world.

720
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,240
We've lost touch a bit, over politics.

721
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,760
But Renzo didn't know about solar panels.

722
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,160
My house was already fitted
with solar panels.

723
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,040
I used hydrogen, Ansaldo's batteries.

724
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,960
I had the first hydroelectric car.

725
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,040
I used hydrogen to fire things up.

726
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,760
I had an inverter that this Dutch man
could adjust over the phone.

727
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,120
Thanks to Ansaldo, my house had the most
advanced technology in the world.

728
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,120
With the help of my solar panels,
I created hydrogen.

729
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,120
I had a little furnace, and I got
hydrogen through my solar panels.

730
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,120
I wanted to showcase this
at my house, 20 years ago.

731
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,280
My house was the first in Italy
to have all this.

732
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,520
I was so curious.
I wanted to try everything.

733
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,640
You'd put your hand over this flame
and could neither see it nor feel it.

734
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,520
If you added iron powder,
the flame looked orange.

735
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,160
So I'd be in the garden, boiling a potato

736
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:51,560
with the greatest technology known to man.

737
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,880
And it boiled, it boiled.

738
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,960
It boiled for three days,
because hydrogen doesn't burn very hot.

739
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,280
I spent three days watching
this shitty little potato boil,

740
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:09,120
a potato that had cost me
a million and a half, but I didn't care.

741
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,840
I experimented with all this.

742
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,240
And Renzo hadn't heard of solar panels,
so I put him in touch with the Germans.

743
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,840
So he started putting
solar panels everywhere,

744
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,360
even where they weren't needed,
just for show.

745
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,240
He's put them in the shade.
"What the hell are you doing?"

746
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,000
"No, they're choreographic.
Let's put them in."

747
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:37,080
I went to the Beaubourg, in Paris,
which he'd built,

748
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,960
and when I saw it, I said,
"So the plumbers have done their bit,

749
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,240
when will the plasterers come?"

750
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:50,040
"No, what the hell are you saying?"
These amazing works.

751
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,920
They were poetic, brave.
Don't get me wrong, they were brave.

752
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:01,600
So I went and he loved me.
He still loves me. He knows he does.

753
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,360
And so one day he said,
"Come along, the US President, Clinton,

754
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,080
wants to give me a prize for being
the best architect in the world.

755
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:16,640
They give this prize out every year.
And I'd like to bring you along."

756
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,720
My wife and I went.

757
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,760
It was great to go through US immigration

758
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,160
with my wife, whose name is Tadjk.

759
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:30,160
I... every, every...

760
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,000
every step we took,
"Tadjk? Who's Tadjk?"

761
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,560
"Tadjk, Tadjk, Tadjk."

762
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,800
So, lasers, CAT, MRI, lasers...

763
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,440
My wife was sent to a different line.
"Tadjk, stand like this. Tadjk..."

764
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,960
The German shepherd kept sniffing her.

765
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,720
He'd go, "Tadjk is fine." We got through.
We went to the White House.

766
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,920
There were thousands of guests,
900 of them were CIA.

767
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,080
So...

768
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,880
So we reached this...

769
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,840
There were ten people at each table--
50 tables, 500 guests.

770
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Piano went up
to where Clinton was standing.

771
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,520
And Clinton mentioned the architects
who'd won the prize in previous years.

772
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,200
They were all sitting at these tables.

773
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,120
He'd call out, "Chung Lin!"

774
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:32,480
"We want to shout out to Chung Lin,
who won the prize in 1997."

775
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,240
Chung Lin stood up, to general applause.

776
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,360
"Roger Canding!" Roger Canding stood up.
Everyone clapped for Roger Canding.

777
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,120
"Jongsen Bing Tan Berkoten!"

778
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Berkoten stood up and everyone clapped.
Then they said, "John Gradding!"

779
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,360
Nobody stood up.

780
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,600
So I stood up and went...

781
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Everyone clapped and Renzo was there...

782
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,920
And Renzo did this.

783
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,320
The video of it is great, because
you can see Renzo saying to Clinton...

784
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,720
So I sat down and next to me
was the richest woman in China.

785
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,600
She was about to give $50 million
to the Guggenheim Foundation.

786
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,720
And Renzo was involved
with the Guggenheim Foundation.

787
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:24,800
And she asked me, in faltering English,
what I'd won the prize for.

788
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,120
I swear to God.

789
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,720
And I said, "I built a bridge
that goes from here to there,

790
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,720
then comes back, because why the hell
would you go there in the first place?"

791
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Symbolically, a bit like Calatrava's,

792
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:49,240
that go from here to here.
In other words, they don't go anywhere.

793
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,800
Anyway, after that, my relationship
with Renzo got a bit...

794
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,360
Because she didn't give him $50 million.

795
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,120
She gave him a lot less.

796
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,000
And this is a picture of my wife,
who'd just given birth.

797
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,560
As you can see, in this picture
she looks a bit like Monica Lewinsky.

798
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,800
And he was definitely looking at her.

799
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,760
This picture was taken
by the greatest photographer in Japan.

800
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,280
Renzo had brought him along
to take pictures.

801
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,200
The greatest photographer in Japan.

802
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Look at that shitty photo!

803
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,000
I'm the one in the background,
looking shifty, see?

804
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,560
But I still see Renzo and Gino.
We have the same dentist.

805
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,800
It's great when we all meet up
at the dentist's.

806
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,160
All the artists go to see Gaggero,
in Pegli. We're all there.

807
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:50,400
In fact, I believe Renzo Piano
has been given one of Gino's molars.

808
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,280
Because we recycle everything.
And going to the dentist can be strange.

809
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:00,480
Since Renzo went on TV to say
I should stick to being a comedian,

810
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,200
I should stick to being a comedian,
not a politician...

811
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,920
But he went into politics,
since he became a senator.

812
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,840
And senators vote. You vote.
Napolitano asks you to vote and you vote.

813
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,040
You live in France. Why are you voting?

814
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:21,200
You shouldn't have accepted
250,000 a year.

815
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,840
You should have just accepted
a symbolic honor.

816
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Yes, he gives all the money to charity.
But that's not the issue.

817
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,400
The problem is that he votes and I don't.

818
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,800
He votes in parliament, and I don't.

819
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,720
So which one of us
should have quit politics?

820
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,640
That's what we quarreled about.

821
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,120
So, last time we saw each other
at Gaggero's,

822
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,960
just as they were drilling
into one of his teeth,

823
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,640
I went up to him and said,
"You bloody traitor!

824
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:53,160
Where did you go wrong?
Now whenever Napolitano summons you..."

825
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:54,920
I really chewed him out.

826
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,320
But he couldn't say anything,
and it was great.

827
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,160
What a relationship!
One person at a time gets to speak.

828
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:07,640
Then it was my turn to be tortured
and was justifying himself,

829
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:10,200
"What the hell are you saying?
You can fuck off!"

830
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,240
He went to town on me.
And I couldn't say a thing. See?

831
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,800
That's the best talk show in the world!

832
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,760
One person at a time gets to speak.
So you have to listen!

833
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Then I met the person
who changed my life.

834
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:38,080
He's no longer with us, but it was
a meeting of two different worlds.

835
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:45,160
I was a buffoon, a comedian.
He was an entrepreneur for Olivetti.

836
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,480
We got together. He came to visit.
We both had good careers.

837
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,720
I had my villa at Sant'Ilario,
with a gate.

838
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,360
Yes, damn it.
I could hide away behind that gate.

839
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:04,560
So we said,
"Let's do something for others

840
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,280
without getting anything in return,
since we don't need anything."

841
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:14,160
That's what broke the system.
Because nobody could believe

842
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:20,600
that two people could plan something
that didn't involve personal gain.

843
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,720
That's what wrecked the kind
of politics we've had until now.

844
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,120
So the fact I did this stuff
with Gianroberto...

845
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,200
He's the one who explained
how to write a blog.

846
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,760
Because what I had been doing was...

847
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,200
stupid.

848
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,960
He told me, "Blogs can be bidirectional.

849
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,600
When you go on tour,
you can write to people.

850
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,760
If you go to Turin or Milan,
you can write to the Milanese."

851
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,040
And I'd sit there at night,
my wife thought I was crazy,

852
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,440
and I'd type,
"Is anyone there? This is Grillo.

853
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,640
Is anyone there?"

854
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,400
There wasn't much Internet coverage.
We still had those big computers...

855
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,320
You'd switch the thing on.
"Is anyone there?"

856
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,160
I'd sit there at night,
then suddenly, ping!

857
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,320
"I'm your next-door neighbor.
What the hell are you up to?"

858
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,520
I opened the window.
"Is that you?" "Yes, it's me."

859
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,440
That's how it all started.
If I was going to Turin, I'd ask,

860
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,320
"Can anyone give me information
about Turin?"

861
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,720
So I'd get a response
from 20, 30, 40 Turinese, who's say,

862
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560
"If you go to Turin,
mention that the mayor's wife

863
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,800
runs an unauthorized car park
in such and such a square,

864
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,800
via her brother's company. Do something!"

865
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,480
Over 30 bits of information would come in
about this.

866
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:49,960
And before I even got to Turin,
the mayor was already on my ass.

867
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Before I'd even said anything.
It meant it was working.

868
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:00,920
And it went on from there.
I'm in the middle of 125 court cases.

869
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,880
Every now and then one ends
because the lawyer has died

870
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,000
or the person who brought
the action against me has died.

871
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:13,720
These are my court cases.
If you slow down, we can have a look.

872
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,680
Garone, Rita Levi-Montalcini.

873
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,400
Rita Levi-Montalcini busted my balls
until she was 102.

874
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,840
But then three of her lawyers died
of old age.

875
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,480
Imagine how old she was.

876
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,840
Then there was Garone,
Iachini, Esposito, Lombardi,

877
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,160
the RAI, Tucker, Agnes, Telepiù,

878
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,440
Google, Sgarbi, Libero, Misiani,

879
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,920
Guerisoli,  Il Giornale,  Battaglia,

880
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,600
the RAI,  Panorama,  Fininvest,

881
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,960
SIAE, even Bocchio,
they were all against me.

882
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,680
But I faced up to it all,
with the help of my lawyers.

883
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,600
In fact, when there are no court cases,
my lawyers call me and say,

884
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,800
"Excuse me, Grillo, but isn't there
anything we should be doing this week?"

885
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,720
And so people started following me
on the Internet.

886
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,720
I want to reveal something
extremely important to you.

887
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,560
We're the only political movement
in the world

888
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:24,200
to have turned down 42 million euros
in party funding.

889
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,080
This hasn't happened anywhere else.

890
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,480
-Actually, that's 80 million.
-I know you appreciate this.

891
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:38,400
It's not 42 million.
Where's the picture of the check?

892
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,920
We returned 80 million euros to the state.

893
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,280
But I thought this gesture
would be understood by everyone.

894
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,440
I got it wrong. We got it wrong.

895
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,200
We thought they'd see
we were doing a beautiful thing.

896
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,960
I thought they'd stop me
in the street, saying,

897
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,280
"Shit! This has never happened before!"
The Koreans, the Japanese compliment us,

898
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,760
their eyes filled with wonder.
But half the Italians still distrust me.

899
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,240
As if to say, "If you do this,

900
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,000
who knows what's in it for you?"

901
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,360
There's all this distrust.
I was wrong to harp on about honesty!

902
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,320
We were wrong to believe

903
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,240
something like this would be understood.

904
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,440
We were wrong.
That's not how information works.

905
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Everyone perceives things differently.

906
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:37,880
Besides, it should be left to others
to shout about your honesty.

907
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,360
It's not up to you to communicate
these things about yourself.

908
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,680
You have to proceed
like Lieutenant Columbo.

909
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,280
Lieutenant Columbo is the greatest
communicator in the history of TV.

910
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,440
He'd let the murderer point him
in the right direction.

911
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,240
He'd go in and act unassuming.

912
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,120
The murderer would look at him.
He'd pretend to leave.

913
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,040
He'd pause at the door,
then turn around, look at him,

914
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,520
and the murderer would say something
and he'd work out the rest.

915
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,080
And so, you see,
the brain is a strange thing.

916
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,440
Our minds are very strange.

917
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,280
That's why I remember,  "Ma mère,
que j'aime beaucoup, m'a donné tout.

918
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,520
J'aimerai cette..."  I was six.

919
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:33,760
And I can't remember the first pussy
I ever knew, though it was beautiful.

920
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,600
But I remember,  "Ma mère,
que j'aime beaucoup, m'a donné tout."

921
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,000
The brain is stupid.

922
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,240
It perceives things that aren't there.

923
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Truths that don't exist. Your mind,
at times, is at odds with your brain.

924
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Your car is a filthy junk heap,
and you take it to the car wash.

925
01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:01,160
It comes out all clean and your brain
reasons like that of an Albanian.

926
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,400
It sees the clean car and thinks,

927
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:08,560
"Beautiful, new, mine."

928
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,680
But your mind says, "You prick!
That's still your shitty old car."

929
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,880
Our mind is always
at odds with your brain.

930
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,080
The brain is weak. It has no antibodies.

931
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:24,040
If you cut your knee, your white
blood cells try to stop the bleeding.

932
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,120
The brain cannot defend itself.
Its only form of defense is Alzheimer's.

933
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,960
We think of it as an illness, but it's
your brain's way of defending itself.

934
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,520
When your wife has been a pain
in your neck for 50 years,

935
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,840
you get home...
"Hello, darling." "Who are you?"

936
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,560
It's fantastic!

937
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,240
So...

938
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,160
The brain is strange.

939
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,760
The brain is strange.

940
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,360
But if you look at nature,
there's a type of moss, for example,

941
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:02,240
there's a type of seaweed, which,
as soon as it-- this seaweed, here.

942
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,560
It's a type of seaweed--
there it is, on the left.

943
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,040
As soon as there's no more plankton
for it to eat,

944
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,360
it emits a spore, up there on the right.

945
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,360
The spore it emits
has a tiny nervous system. See?

946
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,880
A tiny nervous system.

947
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,480
This nervous system leads it
to a place where it can find plankton.

948
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,240
The spore settles into a hole
where the plankton is,

949
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:35,440
and the first thing it eats is its brain,
because it's no longer relevant.

950
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,680
Nature is full of this kind of thing.

951
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,840
And we're not exempt.

952
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,600
Because there is a case
that has made neurological history.

953
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:50,920
It's about a 45-year-old man
from Marseilles who led a normal life.

954
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,160
He worked for the Inland Revenue
in Marseilles.

955
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,640
He was married with two kids.
He led a normal life.

956
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,240
Work, home, ice-cream,
the movies, pizza, home, work.

957
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,240
That was his daily life. A normal life.

958
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,720
One day his leg hurt. He went to hospital.

959
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,800
He felt faint,
and they gave him a CAT scan.

960
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,360
And this is the CAT.

961
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,040
This is a normal CAT,
of a normal brain.

962
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,560
The CAT of this 45-year-old
gentleman from Marseilles,

963
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,920
is this one. There is no brain.

964
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,920
The brain was full
of hydrocephalus inside. It was filled up,

965
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,160
and it had spread the brains
along the borders.

966
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,840
It was full of water.

967
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:48,760
But he had continued to live normally,
he lived his everyday life.

968
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,160
He never noticed anything,
apart from the pain in his leg.

969
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:59,640
They asked his wife, "Didn't you notice
anything? That's almost impossible."

970
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,880
She said, "He was a very normal man,
except for one thing which was odd."

971
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,600
"Every time he shook his head to say no,
I heard this lapping..."

972
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,000
"But as we live in Marseilles,
I thought it was the boats."

973
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,000
Splash, splash, splash...

974
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,360
So, how many people, how many of us

975
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,800
live this kind of life
and do the same things?

976
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,880
How many of us never decide anything
and let others decide?

977
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,920
When they have a normal brain.
How many of us have a normal brain?

978
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,800
Mankind is divided in two today.

979
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:49,760
They look for a leader
in order to avoid responsibility.

980
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,480
We feel so much fear, despair and guilt,

981
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,760
that we let everything be taken away
from us without saying anything.

982
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,280
I'm coming down,
I have to touch you.

983
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,400
I have to be with you,
I have to touch you.

984
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,480
Because...

985
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,680
we're heading towards something
we don't understand.

986
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,760
This is not about a crisis,
this is about a change.

987
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:29,440
The world changes at the speed of light,
and what are we talking about?

988
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,480
In a bit, we'll have--
In 2025-- we actually researched this.

989
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:40,160
In 2025, we'll have 60,000 hours...
Say, a boy of 20 will live to be 88.

990
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:46,000
He will work 20,000 hours--
I mean, 60,000 hours.

991
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,520
And his free time will consist
of 240,000 hours. Freed up time.

992
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,400
We can't even imagine
how you can organize free time.

993
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,840
But a lot of people will do fuck all.

994
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,680
They'll walk around like this, depressed,
because they have nothing to do.

995
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,240
What are we going to do about that?

996
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,320
We have to make sure
there's a universal income.

997
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,400
That's what Musk says, from Tesla,
the smartest brain around.

998
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,960
He sends rockets to Mars,
he sends up satellites,

999
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,439
to connect his Tesla Motors
to his satellite.

1000
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,960
He has invented
the recoverable missiles.

1001
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:31,920
An absolute genius.
Things you wouldn't believe possible.

1002
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,080
By a man who stammers.

1003
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,040
He got mad one day because...

1004
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,240
his bank applied charges
on his credit card.

1005
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,439
He just became furious.

1006
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,160
Like people with a stammer do
when they can't get the words out.

1007
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:55,040
A bit like Totò Riina when he went,
"Fuck, fuck, fuck..."

1008
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,880
Then he would knife you
because he couldn't find the words.

1009
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,080
God, everything makes you guys laugh.

1010
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,280
Tonight I just can't go wrong.

1011
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,520
Right.

1012
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,080
So...

1013
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,240
Hey, lady.

1014
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,359
Come here, darling.

1015
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,479
-How lovely. The effect I have...
-This is my birthday surprise.

1016
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,840
I have an effect on people
like tepid polenta.

1017
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:35,040
Really. They don't make women
like this one anymore.

1018
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,800
They're all so skinny now. Let me hug
you so I can feel your fantastic tits.

1019
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,479
Seriously, I mean...

1020
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:57,240
And so, they charge his credit card,
I'm talking about Musk.

1021
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:02,320
And what does he do?
He founds PayPal. Yes, he does.

1022
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,160
Because for him, nothing is impossible.

1023
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:10,840
He founds PayPal and then he sells it on
to eBay for $140 million.

1024
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,720
Then for ten years,
he does everything wrong.

1025
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:19,520
Every project he does, goes wrong.
Then he does Tesla, without drivers.

1026
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,720
He sends satellites up in the sky
to connect Tesla to them.

1027
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,000
The car becomes a new concept.

1028
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,640
We won't have drivers, this generation
of intermediaries will disappear.

1029
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,400
We'll call the car, and it will come.

1030
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:38,240
"Take the children to school."
And the car will take them there.

1031
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,120
Cars without drivers.

1032
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,480
In thousands of experiments,
there's been only one accident.

1033
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,320
Because the driverless car
behaved badly.

1034
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Because it was texting
while it was driving.

1035
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,360
That is a good one, isn't it?

1036
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,440
I just had to tell this one to you.

1037
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:06,320
There's another guy, Piccard,
a psychiatrist. Son of the great Piccard.

1038
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:12,760
He makes a photovoltaic plane
and flies around the world with it.

1039
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,560
It's built like the Wright brothers' one.

1040
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,560
It starts like a bicycle and takes off.

1041
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:24,720
They all said it was impossible,
but it did it by charging itself.

1042
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,840
It charged itself as it went up
and as it came down.

1043
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,160
And it flew around the world like that.

1044
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:37,440
Nothing is impossible anymore
when one comedian meets another,

1045
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,200
an entrepreneur, and without a cent

1046
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:45,560
he founds the biggest historical
political movement of this country.

1047
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,440
Nothing is impossible anymore.

1048
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,760
It's true, it's true.

1049
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,280
We are full of...

1050
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,960
They call us all kinds of things.

1051
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,400
They called me a criminal
and God knows what else.

1052
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,000
That I'm on the left, on the right,
that I'm a Nazi.

1053
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,360
They called us all kinds of things.

1054
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,560
But it is a very simple
psychological mechanism.

1055
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,080
The mechanism of projection.

1056
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,600
You blame others
for what you feel inside yourself.

1057
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,680
They do that. They are jealous.
They don't accept.

1058
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:34,480
They will never accept a political
movement founded by a comedian.

1059
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,040
A movement based on a bit on irony,
on a couple of jokes.

1060
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,200
Or simply on joy, at times.

1061
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,680
They will never accept that. Never.

1062
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,840
And so we are like mice for experiments.

1063
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,320
It doesn't matter
if the experiment goes well or not.

1064
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:57,920
Napster. With Napster, the supply
of music has changed the world.

1065
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,000
All youngsters download music online.

1066
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,960
All the shops close down
and the multinationals sue Napster.

1067
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,320
Napster closes, but who cares?

1068
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,720
The way of distributing music
has been changed by Napster.

1069
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,240
We are the Napster of today.

1070
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:21,120
We try things. We experiment,
to get a different view of the world.

1071
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,600
But the others equip themselves
to get an extraordinary equipment

1072
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,000
to manage a world
that is about to disappear.

1073
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,680
But I see everything is different
for my children.

1074
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,880
When I was 20, I thought about sex,
cars, sex, cars, a house somewhere,

1075
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,920
and sex, sex, sex...

1076
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,920
My children think of other things.
It's another generation. They don't buy.

1077
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,560
My father left me the house,
I will leave my children one.

1078
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,760
That was really our DNA.

1079
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,640
They don't think like that.
They don't even buy a house.

1080
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:04,520
They rent. They work just enough
to get a flight of 30 euros with Ryanair.

1081
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,440
Ryanair has united Europe more

1082
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:12,120
than these stupid European politics.
So...

1083
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,240
They work a bit. They travel.

1084
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:20,320
They do car sharing.
They don't even buy a car anymore.

1085
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,440
They share experiences.
That's what they do.

1086
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,760
We think it's stupid
they spend ages on their mobiles.

1087
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:33,240
But that's when they share experiences.
Listen to them when they talk.

1088
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:38,080
I was told by the mayor
of that enormous city, Seoul,

1089
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,880
one of the world's biggest metropolises,

1090
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,480
"My city's symbol is an ear."

1091
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,640
"Let's hear what the people are saying."

1092
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,320
That's what politics are,
listening to voices.

1093
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,880
Don't do top-down, but listen.

1094
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,360
So we have these big ears,
and we travel around and listen to people.

1095
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:03,520
Whether we succeed or not,
who cares?

1096
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,760
We have created a fantastic operating
system. It's called Rousseau.

1097
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,000
We give you, you,
and you the chance to...

1098
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:17,280
What kind of work you do?
What's your name? Where are you from?

1099
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,320
You're a banker.
You said it with a certain...

1100
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,560
You are provoking me by sitting here
in front, you know that.

1101
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,760
Bankers and politicians should go
to the back.

1102
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,640
I just have to take you on, now.

1103
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:50,240
We are not in a banking crisis. I've been
to the Board of Directors three times.

1104
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:57,240
The Monte dei Paschi has been split
and we also know exactly by who,

1105
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,800
i.e. by the Democratic Party.
I'm sorry, but that's how it is.

1106
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:08,680
The foundation consisted of municipal,
provincial and regional politicians.

1107
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,360
They quoted it on the stock exchange
and destroyed this fantastic bank.

1108
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:19,040
So we shouldn't use public funds
to solve this.

1109
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,920
The ones who did the damage must pay
for it.

1110
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,160
And that is that party, together...

1111
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:32,120
with the CONSOB that didn't act,
while the Banca d'Italia refused to help.

1112
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:38,520
Come on, fellow Italians! Forgive me.
I got carried away.

1113
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:45,280
So, the Internet and bringing together
all kinds of knowledge. Rousseau.

1114
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,120
Your experience...
Listen, I will be kind to you, I swear.

1115
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,640
Your experience...
If we make a law about banks...

1116
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,000
and you get a chance
to read that law online and say,

1117
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,960
"That's crap,
and I've been a banker all my life."

1118
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,120
Or else you make a law to separate finance
from the commercial bank.

1119
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,080
You can do it better than me.
You worked in a bank all your life.

1120
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,640
Online, you have the chance
to say what you think.

1121
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,880
You can leave a mark,
proof that you lived.

1122
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,440
Because when you die, nobody cares.

1123
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,040
Am I right? So, Jobs said, Jobs...

1124
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:33,800
the son of Syrian immigrants,
this guy, Jobs, has changed the world.

1125
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,440
Today the mayor of London is someone
from Bangladesh.

1126
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,880
The world's third biggest bank,
the Credit Swisse,

1127
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,240
has a 42-year-old director from Senegal,
called Thiam.

1128
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,200
So, we all get the immigrants
we deserve.

1129
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,000
Go, democracy, go, democracy-light.

1130
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,080
This emptied democracy, without
active principles, without anything.

1131
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:11,280
When there's a vote, half of the people
don't bother, the other half sell theirs.

1132
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,920
Let's find other solutions,
let's toss for it.

1133
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,080
That would be more civil and democratic,
like a popular jury.

1134
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,280
What is this exchanging votes
for favors?

1135
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:28,160
This democracy smells of rotten fish,
of farmed fish.

1136
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:34,400
Of farmed sea bream that looks nice,
but tastes like rotten sponge.

1137
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,040
Hello?

1138
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,680
An activist from...

1139
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:48,640
The sea-bream farmers are angry?

1140
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,920
This really happened.

1141
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,160
But it's just an allegory,
sea bream stands for democracy.

1142
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,040
Explain that to them, please.

1143
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:04,520
Okay, in that case,
I will say it differently.

1144
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,120
Or else we lose votes?
How many farmers?

1145
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,960
This is politics.

1146
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,600
Three hundred mill-- okay, hold on,
I'll do something about it.

1147
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,720
So this democracy that consists of...

1148
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:20,080
It's like a farmed sea bream,
which tastes absolutely fantastic.

1149
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,960
But if you look at it,
it just looks a little less tasty.

1150
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:29,000
So the Internet gives you the chance
to get involved, leave your mark,

1151
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:34,360
you can make or propose a law,
you can modify it.

1152
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:39,560
It's a way of giving tools to people.

1153
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,680
Maybe the movement will go away,
will fail, will disappear.

1154
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,400
It won't be needed anymore
when the citizens with a click

1155
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:49,880
decide to go to Afghanistan, say,

1156
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,160
or to go on manufacturing F-35s
after the Americans have left.

1157
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,560
We fought battles.

1158
01:19:55,640 --> 01:20:01,240
The word "no" is the strongest expression
of politics today.

1159
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,200
Each one of us has to learn
to say no, inside ourselves.

1160
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,440
When they offer a promotion
you don't deserve, say no. You can do it.

1161
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,320
Say no to a pleasure
if it doesn't feel right.

1162
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,720
Or to money that you didn't earn.
Do you feel like saying no to that?

1163
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,080
That's what I'm talking about.

1164
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,880
So let's go on with the Internet.

1165
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:27,920
We're in my children's world,
a world of super processors.

1166
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,800
Every 18 months,
the computer acquires...

1167
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,720
it doubles in speed, every 18 months.

1168
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,880
In seven years, with iPhone,
you have the world in your pocket.

1169
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,120
Seriously. Which could be dangerous.

1170
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,720
It's fantastic, but it could be dangerous.

1171
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,080
When you don't know who pays,
That's when you are the product.

1172
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:59,480
You should take a step back and see
what happens. What's on the Internet?

1173
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,680
Who are the big companies?
Not one oil company.

1174
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,320
Not one car manufacturer,
not one bank.

1175
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,640
The biggest companies,
capitalization wise,

1176
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:14,160
are five companies that connect people.

1177
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,000
Alphabet,
the financing company of Google,

1178
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,080
Microsoft, Facebook.

1179
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,320
Sixty employees-- I mean 60 directors,

1180
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,000
one billion and 200 million employees

1181
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,840
who work without a salary.

1182
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,560
We are capitalizing those companies.

1183
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,640
That's how this world
of the Internet works.

1184
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,880
Alphabet buys things off line.

1185
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,200
Google is buying things,
from your thermostat,

1186
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:51,920
to a toilet with Wi-Fi,
a fridge, a cooker,

1187
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,520
they will all be connected,
and Google will know everything.

1188
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,840
Thirty-two billion searches on Google.

1189
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,960
Google will know things
before they happen.

1190
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,720
The fridge is connected to the cooker.

1191
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,800
The toilet is connected to the fridge.

1192
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:15,520
The toilet will analyze you. In Japan,
toilets already analyze urine and feces.

1193
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,200
If it finds fats in your feces,
for example,

1194
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,640
like cheese, say,
and your cholesterol is high,

1195
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,760
it tells the fridge to stop buying cheese
at the supermarket.

1196
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,680
What can you do?
What kind of life is that?

1197
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,800
To eat some soft cheese you'll have
to have a crap at your neighbor's.

1198
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,640
Because if they find out,
if they find out...

1199
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,600
So all those things are connected,
whatever they are.

1200
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,760
Now robotics are on its way, too.

1201
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,840
Robotics is a fantastic thing.
We'll have robots that will work for us.

1202
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,960
We will manufacture robots,
and half of all jobs will disappear.

1203
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:03,520
Our productivity will go up enormously.
As a result, paid labor will disappear.

1204
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,280
Millions will be unemployed.

1205
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:11,040
Everybody says that. So why
are we talking about populism, in Italy,

1206
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,920
when in ten years' time
we'll lose 50% of our jobs?

1207
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,760
Therefore, we must start now programming
for the next 30, 40 years.

1208
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:26,680
Like new forms of energy.
But school still prepares you for work.

1209
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,960
Who said school has to prepare you
for work?

1210
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,080
School has to teach you
to look critically at the world.

1211
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,160
Forget about work.

1212
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:44,200
This new thing is coming,
and we are not prepared for it at all.

1213
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:49,520
The Internet offers everything,
and the biggest success, as you all know,

1214
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,040
especially you, is porn. Yes, porn.

1215
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:57,040
I want to see what you do after midnight,
when everybody's asleep.

1216
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,960
Where, how and what
you're connecting to.

1217
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:06,200
That's how it is. Right now
19 million people are on porn sites.

1218
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,200
The porn sites are sponsored by Denim,
who make jeans.

1219
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:15,280
They give you nine minutes
to make a donation to a whale.

1220
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:20,360
They show you the porn and then
they show you "save the whales."

1221
01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:25,800
In nine minutes,
you spank the monkey and save a whale.

1222
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,560
Or if you can't make that,
you can try with anchovies. Anyway...

1223
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,000
That's how it works.

1224
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,600
They sell anything, like viewers.

1225
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,000
This viewer is just fantastic.

1226
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,040
Say, you live in Busalla, for example.

1227
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,360
You put on your viewer,
and your girlfriend too.

1228
01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:48,880
You're close to the factory Iplom.

1229
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:56,240
You go to the Caribbean with her, it's
like you can touch and see the water.

1230
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,920
That's happening today,
this virtual reality is almost real.

1231
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,760
You go from Busalla to the Caribbean.

1232
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:10,160
It would be great if two people
from the Caribbean could come to Busalla.

1233
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,040
"What the fuck is this?" Anyway....

1234
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,400
Anyway...

1235
01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:19,120
There are incredible things for sex.

1236
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:23,720
Like the Swarovskis, where are they?
That is really something else.

1237
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,120
Let's not pretend these things
don't happen, because they do.

1238
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:34,080
For example the president
of the region of Sicily,

1239
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:38,760
he had an anal bleaching done.
He had his anus bleached.

1240
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,480
It's something surgeons can do for you.

1241
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,320
His was a bit dark,
and he didn't like that.

1242
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:52,040
It was 80 euros, which he had
the region pay for, damn it.

1243
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:56,120
So all the others started
to say they wanted it, too.

1244
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,400
They all wanted to get it bleached.

1245
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,560
These things exist, really.

1246
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:08,960
So now there are these Swarovskis,
anal Swarovskis.

1247
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:14,400
Just to make it look better, you don't
want to leave it just bleached like that.

1248
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:19,080
You insert the Swarovski,
so that it sticks out. You'll say,

1249
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,240
"This is just for aesthetic reasons.
It's nice and shiny."

1250
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,880
"Look, I have an anal Swarovski..."
It lifts your morale.

1251
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,360
They make them now with a watch inside,
to make it more useful.

1252
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,360
When you have your hands full
and they ask the time you go,

1253
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:38,120
"Here, see for yourself."

1254
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,880
They really exist.

1255
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,240
In all sizes.

1256
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:51,160
So we're entering
into this new system that...

1257
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,760
Look at these things here,
for example.

1258
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,160
They're all made of stainless steel.
They are very interesting.

1259
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:06,640
It's fun to try new things, say, when
you're 70 and have never seen them.

1260
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,640
You can insert them like a catheter.

1261
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:16,080
So you can finally
have a wee like a spray.

1262
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:22,240
Like a watering can. We have one spray
normally, so let's have some fun now.

1263
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,240
So let's play a bit with it now.

1264
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,640
You can insert one in your behind

1265
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,720
that will give
little strips like tagliolini.

1266
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,600
These perversions exist as well,
there's something for everyone.

1267
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,560
For people like us, when we're alone
in our room at night and it's dark,

1268
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:46,400
the beast in us comes out.
We all have it, come on now.

1269
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,320
Don't we? And so...

1270
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,720
Look at you, walking up and down,
playing the comedian.

1271
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,480
Did you walk off just now?
Where are you?

1272
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,520
You left because that's in your nature.
Oh, come off it.

1273
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,400
You left the movement without a leader.

1274
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:07,280
Where does it go,
without a lighthouse to guide them?

1275
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:13,080
Without someone the masses can follow?
Well?

1276
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Play the comedian, get paid well for it.
It's all right for some.

1277
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:24,000
There are decisions that you
make yourself, leader or no leader.

1278
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:29,400
I made a decision that changed
my life. And I didn't have a leader.

1279
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:35,240
When I was having a lot of success
on TV, I was called by Berlusconi.

1280
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:39,600
I went to his villa in Portofino
with my manager Marangoni.

1281
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:45,720
I earned two and a half million lire
per show. This was in the '80s.

1282
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:52,400
I was well-paid. I was very popular.
As my agent, he got 10%.

1283
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,760
So we go there,
and we sit down in this villa.

1284
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:01,320
Berlusconi and two, three
of his employees walk in and he says,

1285
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:06,000
"We want to offer you something."
They had bought American formats.

1286
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,760
It was the game show
OK, Il Prezzo è Giusto.

1287
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,840
So they offer me this game show.

1288
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:19,120
It was a big success in the States.
In Italy, it's presented by Iva Zanicchi.

1289
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:24,880
He explained how it works.
"There are 60 shows per year."

1290
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,920
"We pay 60 million per show."

1291
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:32,200
"For five years,
so that's 17 billion lire."

1292
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,520
"Here is a check
for one billion and a half."

1293
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,760
I didn't know how to react,
and my agent...

1294
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,520
started to sweat.

1295
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,600
I didn't have a leader to follow.

1296
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:52,160
I had to decide for myself.
It was really a lot of money.

1297
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:57,040
I looked at my agent,
Marangoni, and I said,

1298
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,120
"Where would this show be recorded?"

1299
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,800
In Milan.

1300
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,520
I said, "I live in Genoa, think
of all the traveling costs involved."

1301
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:14,720
Berlusconi said, "We'll pay for all that.
You won't have to pay anything."

1302
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,360
"Okay, but there are other things..."

1303
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,760
"Like food and stuff like that."

1304
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,240
He realized
I wasn't going to accept the offer.

1305
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,160
And in fact, I said, "Thanks."

1306
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,960
"If you had offered three million
a month, to work ten hours a day,

1307
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,840
I would have considered it,
but I have to say no to this.

1308
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,680
I'm leaving, thank you." And we left.

1309
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,440
That's what I decided.

1310
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:50,040
I have earned lots of money since,
anyway. But I didn't have a leader.

1311
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:55,560
So who am I? What is a politician?
We have to make our own decisions.

1312
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,960
Please, look inside yourselves,
even if you can't stand yourselves.

1313
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,920
You have to make your own decisions
and act accordingly.

1314
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:09,440
If you fail, you just go on anyway,
who cares? If you fail, then you must...

1315
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:14,080
I want to do something here.
We have food from all over the world.

1316
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,760
In ten years,
we'll have one billion obese people,

1317
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,840
and 800 million people will starve.
What a bizarre world.

1318
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:26,880
This is how we will get
our proteins in the future.

1319
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,920
They're insects.
They eat them in Thailand and in Korea.

1320
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,480
It's a cultural thing. You may find it
disgusting, but you eat snails.

1321
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:41,560
What I didn't like so much
were the caramelized crickets.

1322
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:42,480
Damn.

1323
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,040
I've got some crickets here.
And I wanted to do a ritual with you.

1324
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,840
You must become your own leader.

1325
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,680
You really have to become...

1326
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,440
No, you can't escape.
Close all the doors, please.

1327
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,160
We must perform this ritual.

1328
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:08,760
I only have small ones,
all the big ones were eaten last night.

1329
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,440
There were people from Struppa,
and they devoured them all.

1330
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:19,160
I want... I want you to do with me...

1331
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:23,960
They're small. This one. Here, try one.

1332
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:31,160
No, you have to wait. This is a ritual.
You haven't come here to eat.

1333
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,160
I want my neighbor to get up.
Stand up, please.

1334
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:42,320
Are you ready to receive my body?
Because you have to become me.

1335
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,800
You have to become me, open up.
Do you want to take me? There you go.

1336
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,000
This is Holy Grillo. Eat it up.

1337
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,240
Here you go.

1338
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,920
This is the transposition.
You are me, and I am free at last.

1339
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,280
Sit down, please.

1340
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,600
I'm free. You are now a part of me,
you become your own leader.

1341
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:13,080
You'll make your own decisions.
I don't know what will become of me.

1342
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,480
I won't be a politician, nor a comedian,
I will become transcendent.

1343
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,280
I will end up transcendent.

1344
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:27,120
I feel it inside that I can become
like that. I will become like that.

1345
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,720
Yes, I feel them.

1346
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,920
I feel the two crickets inside me.
One is not worth one anymore.

1347
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,920
Two are worth one now.

1348
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:49,600
Look, there is light,
transcendence, introspection.

1349
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,800
-Don't take yourselves seriously.
-I see the light.

1350
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,480
I am the elevated.

1351
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,880
Enough already. If that's so,

1352
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:02,480
then we have to stop it,
because I might do something like that.

1353
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,160
I need your help to stop him.

1354
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,160
I've told half Europe to fuck off,
and now I need you, together with me,

1355
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:11,960
to tell me to fuck off. Please.

1356
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,840
I'll count to three
and then we'll all say it.

1357
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,440
One, two, three:

1358
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,560
Fuck off!

1359
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,480
That's it. Thank you, everybody.

1360
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,600
Thanks, everybody.

1361
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,080
Thank you, goodbye.

1362
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,960
Goodbye, thank you.

1363
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:14,120
GENOA, DECEMBER 12, 2016
POLITEAMA GENOVESE THEATER

1364
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,120
Subtitle translation
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